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SMALL HOPE FDR THAW
If HE IIS TO [NEW
Authorities Say He Would Face
Deportation as an Unde?
sirable Alien.
AMERICA COULD HAVE HIM
If Washington Should Make Re?
quest Foreign Office Would
Act, Though Treaty Doesn't
Technically Cover Case.
un? i
- 18, Whst would har
Hsrry K. Thaw if he came to
Englsn : la one "f the prime t?pica to?
day, r.? t only among Ameiicsn vlaltora,
hut among the English i>?-t?i?l?^* ?
Fe'.' es The newspapers carry i?>ng
CSblSB from A" ' '' '
cape from Matteawan. and seem ?
ciai: i Evelyn Neablt ap?
re th< n HI] ; odromi
ill ? ? time ago.
titles here do not bel
Thaw la technically lubji I I
a? the treaties do nol cover
luna, y and Idiocy, but a numb?
bsniatera think ?ireat Britain *
? Ing possible to gel Thaw out
: ?? ck to Am
? Washington made a re
'?? }' rc:gn e~.ftic.-f? would prob
ably order hi- deportation sa a danger
-, as a man who would mak?
ther people this
??? if allowed by Immigration
ritte?: to slip In, probably he
he ?i? ? ? ? e i i t? under the fsr-reach?
rabie aliens.
Ined th it
me way be
get gh to eat
?? hlch takes nuit*? a period of
time, then he ?' a Btsndlng
oulel
.
A ?. ?rv ss e\\ known barrister >aid to?
day thsl Thss ly extradil
? ? . ? ... , ; ,nat
? Mstteewsi
of the crimes Included
Ir. the treaty.
"It la a mooted Question." hi -
?her Thaw could be ? ided as
foi n Immigrent cerry
? | neana .. boat cam " >-* a ?score
ci-rs. eltl ?
or ail of oi
? usually without suffi
meana to Justify their existence
? try without laboring for th'lr
It might be difficult to deport
Tha? if he on?" ?trot into the rountrv,
o far si th? law la concerned.
don't believe for a moment that
tolerate such .-?
. and 1 am sur?
? could to aid
'??lt?d Stated ? getting him I
behind the hare?where he belongs."
M THAW ASSISTANTS
Police Find Clews to Identity of
Five Conspirators.
sesrcl for Thaw is
that for the five mi?n wh?. ?assisted in hiM
iwsy. Th" police in all th?- New Eng?
es*. I? curate ?!? -
tions of these men. The ?police :
? after the quintet had lent th??ir
? igti worn"
for Thaw t-ed*,\ ?n getting nlm
the Connecticut line in the autom.?
wouid no longer be
led, and they would return to their
The description of Richard J. Butler
-, the leeder of
?allies closely with former Vs
? jrrass Butler, of this city, wh ru
of "BUI" De
8 timo of Farn Parks,
the Dotorloua labor lesdi
Bini
of the Uttle y i
heed
lens 1 efore Then's ?.?
v-aih of the es?
?ht as one of his late
elerk lore him out
ll ?T lives St 1 ' ?17th strep*
with i. s wif.. snd five children He is
? ? i.f the Ix>n?rshoremen's t'nion.
Mrs Butler, when seen at her home last
I that her husband went away
' r. ?Frida did not return
? I day nlKht. He t??ld her that he
was going "upstats." ?SUt did not '?v
; He went away atra'n
? -day morning and had not returned
ii?- wss often out of the
city for tWO or three days at a time
Igl I nothing "f it.
The theory that B It er wss com ?
s ? ? ? sgthsned I
* tsnees surrounding the
fron Ksrry t?? Mrs.
Tha-? ? :irht. It was mailed from
?
BBSthne before i i . The
? en of the , ?f.- Mrved by Station O
is not pernote fr-??m the Butler ?home. The
; believe that Thaw wrote the n<?*e
:? ther wl ? ?Seeing i the auto
a It 1 B .tier to ni.-iil on
ble- return to New York
AecordinK t" H. Fir.kir,. whs : ns an
SX?r- t the West ttd strei t
fen--., Bui ' ? ?<??< Is, ?Flood ?and
"fhoespsoa, 'ho men who RlRned those
name-- <.n * .?? hotel register a* listtes
wan, are sll sa i ' the ferry?
? I a : are chsf
feurs. F"lnkin ?declared thai Mutli-r and
the four men had l?ee-n mlBSlSg fr??m the
oelghbarhsod since Friday Ha aald that
w?.en the four chsuffSura went sway with
Butler Friday It whs Solsed alunit the
ncl^hhorhcx-d that they srere K'?!iik
state" to get Harry 'I I.a v. ?, ?
Dr. Hrittjn I> Beans, Sfter a long con
Mis Thav?. at the Hotel
am last night, Intimated in a eegs
tl\e gtgg thsl Man.- Thaw Blghl
refuge la the Siew Jersey stat?- *?
Asylum, at Morris Plains Of Which l)r
K.'at.s Is the head, until he ?
asalty propsrl) established ir? ihst
state-. Di ? te ?snswei ase
..?a.' direct que mm. s when seen at the
hotel after leaving Mr- 'J h
a
REPORTED IN NEW HAMPSHIRE
11 1 <? ? :?aph to The Tribune. 1
Bellow? Falls, Vt . Auk 11?A. M.
Brajcg, of this town, reported t?> ti??- Chief
.- at llsttsswSn bj telegraph ?his
morning thai he ?hlnks he saw Hnn\ K.
automobile? yesterdaj efternooe
I o'clock on a eeuntry i<?a<i in
Cbsrlestown, N h leves mllee n??rth ??f
bers
Mr BraKK was in his automobile with
a psrty of friends when ? big ear op*
. r-ar He turned Mit,
? g grav est containing five or six
; trail.?i bj sn open backed llmou
?Ine flm- hy in the limousine were three
Persons, oiie of them a man In a gray
coat
THAW'S LETTER TO HIS MOTHER
??fa i-?W*M.2!>'r
VhsWk^SmhaVi .
/4vW ?Uli *
WHITMAN AIDS DOUB?"
INDICTMENT OF THAW
Fugitive Could Be Brought Back
i Only Through Criminal Charge,
Is General Opinion.
GRAND JURY MAY REFUSE
By Reason of Great Expense to
State, Action of Body Will
Be Taken with Great
Care in Any Event.
rabera of i-istrict Attorney Whit?
man's staff differed % ??sterday as to the
? ol getting Kerry K Thaw
bnch into th* aeylam at Metteeeren
No on? ted the st tentent m i?l?> by
Isidor Wasservogel acting District At?
torney, thai Thaw could nor he- astro
????I as an eacaped lunatic, bel a man of
long experience in the l>istrict Attor?
ney's office gavs it as rr.s oplnioa thst
Thaw nr.cht he Indicted in DutCheSS I
County and brousrht beck as a fugll i
from Justice
Section tte of th- tea, relat?
inp to conspiracy, is the section under
j which it was rssld an Indictment mich'.
he found against Thaw Th?? section
ll SB follows
"If two or ITKUP persons conspire to
commit any act injurious to the pul lie
health, t?. publl? mureli or *o trade or
commerce, or for the perveralon i -
' ? istice, or of the due ad?
ministration of th?. laws each of them
in Kuilty of a misdemeanor"
The fact that several men and two
mobilee were reedy and oral ting for
; Thaw and that Thaw apparently knew
?if their presente, would be the
of the Conspiracy chargl
The fact that Thaw w .is adjudged in-1
snre. said an Assistant District Attor?
ney, would he no t,ar to th?- Indictment
? ich it that were Introduced sa a
I defence at his trial on th?- ? f
: charge it might hrinc al It . ?ult
A - ? matter of fa? ? Mi Whit?
man's assistant ? onsldered It hichly Im?
?? bebte thai time he entered,
! Into ' I Th:i? wes SO far
1 as the p:?ir ?;,s concerned, legally In?
ri? believ? : thai if Thaw entered
? conspira I ipe from Mat
ran he did bo knowing th?? r I
Ian?) quality of his act and t..at It was |
?
? Indictment for ? misdemeanor, It I
was mid, wo'iid he BuAcient to Juet '
i'.tinn proceeding! With ai^ Itat?
It was thought unlike.;., however, that |
would be taki-n toward an In-I
dl< fment until Tha? . found It |
was pointed out that th?- auth'.rltles ?n j
any state where he was found might .<d
Judge him Insane and commit him to an ?
Institution ?
Also, there Is a possibility that, even
I with evidence suffi'!?: t to warrant an In?
dictment, a crand jury, mindful <>f the ?x
iw hah been to th? stab
? ??? indl'-t
Another member of the I?;stri't A't"i
Btaff, who la familiar with the
Thaw cese, said he doubted If any Indict?
ment could be obtained sgainst Thaw, be*
rauae the first svtdencs to be predu ?-i
, before B gl WOUld be that Thaw
was adjudged insane and confined in the
aeylum at Matteaeran
I ?': Be Been yesterday agreed thai
unless a criminal charge Is brought
against him, Harrj Thaw is safe from
extradition if a man convicted of ??
felony ?srapes from prison, that In Itself
is a felony If a pnson?'r convicted of .1
misdemeanor ??,?_;??- t ? ',nKlitut?-s a.
misdemeenor. if a man confined in an
?iition for the criminal Insane aa?
lt ?? no crime.
Mr TTBBsnlTngll. as acting District At?
torney, yeeterday sent Morris Koenig, of
l |g staff. tO Matt?awan to co-operate
with the authorities there. Mr. Koenig
was sent BS B r.-.rcs.ntatlv,- of NoW
York County bsesnes Thaw wa_ c?un
mitted from a court bore.
. ?s
MAY AWARD THAW MONEY
_..
Orphans' Court to Decide if He
Can Have $30,000.
Pittsburgh, auk. ll?It became known
tO-dej that tbS Orphans' ?ont of
AUeghenj County erlll decide during tb*
Beptembet term whether Harry Thaw is
to receive the Income ft??m his father's
'??state, which since UN bas been accumu?
I in the vaults of the Fidelity ?Title
?and Trust Company of Plttabnrgh Thaw
? tl) -?mended t:*"*" from the trust
eompeny, which answered .t would pay
?h? money if the eouri should es sed? i
Ths secumuleted incoms now amounts
t?. li''.":<.. and th* rnlue af the lomalnder
of the estate i- sstimsted si araXSAi TL
"There's nothing sgainst Then on
whi h lt. Slat?- of New Volk can iss_e p
requisition," declsred Roger CU??,
Ths? s gusrdlen, to-day. "in New v?.rk
Thee is a lunatic, and befe? be could be
: turned It arould bs neeeseery f?sr the
courts of Mew York to deslere him sane.
Then they have i.o ciiarne acainst him.
bo Oovernor In snj state ereuld i?su_
a n q risitlon for hi ? return.
"'Ihc logical piece for Harry Tnaw t?i
live is Pittsburgh? and after he has rested
iwhile at < resson he could io nothing
bettet ti,an te resume hl? Hie ainon? hl?
old frienti-."'
DF RAYMOND F i
Gate thi i hit h Tlia
WIFE TELLS OF THAW'S
PLANS FOR ^VENGEANCE
Dr. Austin Mint's, First Name on Death List
and Hers Second, She Says I 1er
Safety in Staying i Jrre.
1 ' les ti laid c
in '.ne t???.rder eltl '
?Fllr t msrl ? ?.
Int- to the 1 ....
In .1 r
with the nat
. . . ...
? ? Austli ? th the
???:?' of which his *vll mil
?he es Islmed esterd ? psntli
fmm her dan??- before s bresthli m
en e
t know fi n Harn ThsWB own II
that he la?-- ............
Dr ?Flint lerome Ob Jerome w
never take -
mak?--? sllowei
r?-n?-?c')t?.r Who had a reputation to Bfl
lain !? " ent with Di
ne et -? ?..I ? ? ? a
Of lnfluenee that a i:r?-at alienist Ilk.? D
Flint can wield ovei ?thei
"Harry believes thai l>r Flint, and ne
Jerome, p?it him behind the '..ir?- nt Ma
teswan I don'l know; poaelMy n\
years in confinement bssj ?,-?- Hsn
to hesltsl e he begli sreer <
-, ? ? | ? ?, ? But if he i ? ?
with the Idea that h.- must kill to ??juar
himself. Dr. Flint the mai
some ?grudge ,?e-;i!.'.?-t t?r. Csrloe MscDor
aid, the ??th.-r alienist, bul sol bo b* m
a? sgslnst Dr I
"A- : the next""
"Me it leset I ; re I ;me It won!.I he m?
lie tv restened me In hi.? eold-bloode
wny, r-ti my rlett to Ifstti
1 can't tC 1 how Hairy Th.iw regards m
deep down m his h.-.irt. N?> oiie can tel?
His fane?- mich' i ?? ?je hut one cai
hardh rely safely <?n lh" far.
paran, ?lac."
"What do you Inte nd dolngF'
"Mv BSfOt] lisa light here. I havi
promises of a ?European tour, hut if Hsrn
Thaw gees there it win change m- plana
i win bring my baby t?? America if i heat
of his Martini; f??r I.??n?lnn."
"Does he ?know where the i?at?y la o\ei
t'.cr.""
? ? i>i. r,o and he won't Ko, hi I
mentioned the rhihl In any letter to me.
1 do not think he ever thinks 11 the baby.
? i ?don'l think ttsrry Thsw < rutd ???
land.-?! In Rnglsnd an- ven- H? h S]
Insane. Paris" Why. he might k?? to
l'aria but, heavens, Psrla la altogether
k?, ?.].??* for Hsrrj He o ildn't ?get
enough esdtemienl otoi there without
??r-iiimc something That mesna drinking
r-.r ni'n, and then hs'a ugly, and nls sur*
of fun would hardly t?e tolerated there
it might i? a i to his death if he trlsd "
?y?, ? are reported t<> hsve asid thsl i b i
believed thai Hsirj escsped fr..m Itst
teswsn on Sal irdsj night ,?r,d tn?- i
I of the escspi was transferred to Sunday.
I What sre your ?grounds for thsl ?supposl
! tlon?"
I 'Well. I have no ksos I Ige ?.: ,i
! thinir. But t?> my mind the Sbole affair
?,,v ?, amoothl) ss?seuted tnat the Mst
teewan sutborlUse oould hsrdly bsee been
te ?low to ?set artife. It was all ia j.lain
as as) ?Tight atter II happen??1 y,t th.y
I made eery little real effort to eope wit';
thee sltiution.
j "No. I will n??t est.-iMlsh a le?*al resl
| cierne in any state so a* t?> BUS Many'
i Thaw fot alimony," sSid Mr>. Tha?. |
I "He Is lagallj Insane in New York, sane |
but bankrupt in Penn.'.. Ivnnla. an?l l!
don't know what In ?ther BtStSS well,
?epaliy insane, of c?ursr He i? an ir
iseponalbla it would he pitiful to try to
get alimony from such a being.
?
[ aren) . ? - ,
'
? Of him
III 1 aal ? ?
: ? :.'
'
? .
:? ' ?.
e !" 1 ?lo n?.t know
is | tun?
... ? . ibetti d hi.?
erteil ?? ? paid for th?
:sk i ? - .a of many phi i
arho are gottlni
it for ) o.jr
? ?
At the ?n?l of M
ittach. of thi theal where she is ap
. ? ? .?lit to ber a telegram ?hi h.
ned, i sd i ? ? ed eat
?. tbe morning it had be?-n opened ind
III. 'i bee, after i. g ll
'?.r a moment ..n?i esclelmed, with a
?mile.
Well. It sounds like M.ii
? ? . , ? ? . :? BI
I i oni ??? i purported
t<? ha\ ?? ? - i m | ? st, |
la] It rea.l:
I want that ti.itne taken off ?he ? h. . ? t r.?
it once. Ton :? ?? but i ou mistake.
11 K T "
THAW AND "DR. HOLDEN"
AT LENOX. SAY FOUR MEN
[ Hi '!? legt -, ? turn 1
Lenox. M ' -tig. ll Hai ry K Thaw
s believed to bav? spent last night at the
Lenas Hotel, on Depot street, of which
Richard A Btanlej Is ths owner. Th??
ran thought to bs Thaw registered there
LB P II Suns, NOW York H ii onl U
! ng ? ompsnJon i ???? ist- r.-?i .,.? \\ n
M D Thej w.:. travelling In .i
odoi. '."?I oi m power Palmei Ding? i
machine. No H l?M Ne? fork.
The) I'-ft I.' I at I ?this morn
ng In the cai without waiting tor break?
Cast Those who Identified the usit.>r ss
i bs s a ? i ?? Bta.nl? i John Murphy, I P
,-.,i Ri? hard Leai >
When Stanley picked up ?? newspaper
Lhll nmrnlng and saw ? picture ?.f Thaw
he Mid
That man itosped al mj bot? i las*
riirht "
in. Holden srrived at the i^-nox hot.i
last nlghl .?t I '.f| snd ate .upper ther??.
ll?- told Mi Btanlej he wanted two rooms
for btmeoil and his chauffeur He said be
.-.is K?->ing out for a Whlls and w.,u!?l hi
back with tbe drivai ?,i bis ?.?r At 8 .to
u,,-. returned snd were shown to the
i ?m.s assigned them
The man Btsnlej said was Thaw went
la i. , room st "ii? ??, and although it was
b rerj bol night steyed there all night
- calling for anything to ?*at or
Irina.
Ai .', ii o'clock th's morning h?- ran
?own the stairs and Bhol ilk?- s rocket
i.i,, the st tomoblle srhl? l. eras waiting at
th? ,. i.! Holden paid the hotel bill.
?.?. hi? h wai I ?
i |..-tau.? in the hotel, when being shown
to tb, rooms, I"" Holden referred to bis
travelling companion as "ths bos-' An
hour or two before be called him "my
i h.iuffeur."
Ht an ley said the mat, be Identified as
Thaw weighed about Igt pounds, eras ai?
most six feel hi|?'h. with a blue flannel
shirt, graj trousers and wl.lt? ?h?,?-? He
maa smooth ?havoa and was apparent!}
between thirty-five an-l forty y< I
Dr, Molden was a short man and weighed
about 140 pounds Mis iiuist.i, h, was
;,,. ^ ,,,,,1 ?,. wore S straw hat und a
dark suit of dotbee
Howard Joyner, >>f the Morse ?
v h.-re the ear Was SUt U| last nicht, .-aid
th? car thought to he Thau s was ? red
,,,,?. tnd was m fairij good rond-ilon
Joyner sold it le? ovei th.- But? Roed
toward Lse, snd possibly over Jacoba
ladder tc Srnngfield
THAW NOT FOUND;
WRITES TO MOTHER
Continued from first j>are.
replied that they would arrest the fugitive and hold him subject to
the action of the New York police if he came their way. All port
cities were carefully watched for steamships sailing for European
countries.
Those who know Thaw best do not believe he will keep himself
in hiding, but will soon show his accustomed anxiety to prove him?
self sane'and capable of living out of an asylum like any ordinary
citizen.
That a fight to this end will be made in his native state was
strongly evinced last night, when Dr. Britton D. Evans, superin?
tendent of the New Jersey State Asylum, near Morristown, con?
ferred with Mrs. Thaw at the Hotel Gotham here.
MANY 'IDENTIFY' THAW PARTY
LEADER AS 'BIG DICK' BUTLER
(Rv Trlr.j-.iph la The Tribune
Matteawan, .v.g- lv -Ths le
the parn o? Uva men who aldstl
Then to as. spa wss partlall)
Bed" here this aft.-rn..??n a?. Ri<
Butli r, of No. 3-813 West -Tth
Neu Y?"?rk. who, ;t wss asid, is
know n as "Bid Dick" Butler
entlfl stli n r? sted ??n ti
<r VVilllsm Gordon, owner ot tr
lend Hotel, where the men B'
snd Lem Churchill, manager of ?
lel'a garage when a photogri
"Hig !?'. k" wss ahown to then
?said he was undoubtedl) the part
who led th?' Thaw ?rescue part
? ????.,?: . ould f I be mistaken
They said Butler in every wa
the leader and did all th?- B| ?
? . ? ?id hin is a "hale
weil m? t Ha bu ?mora tha
fee I tall, athletit in build and wi
loro i undi n aa. Althoug
I . id Bornes h il aloof fr?->ni the
m.-nih.-rs of the party, he talk
>.?m? time s is ? Una
Amone other Items ef Inforn
. .
Gordon, was ti ti I taken
?n Sea Tork |
brand H< '? ,h:,t np v
? In spring wster, n *
bust m a - In "^ ? al '?'? Ith Btree l ene1
h. oa i.?-'? api Inga ?? Oyster Bay.
Personalities Said to Agree.
The? ? ? ? said, a
with the pet ' '* ? Ni i
Butler. From r aource II
r] Butler ?
?I u Ith Sam 1
? I |
p.-urv, snd that he j>.(t In th>?
. ? ? |. He
In Isbor troubles, it
paid ? -.- time under b
f??r -. il ? llach i
He s be en at
? ? . , friend I I McNsi
.....
It waa learned here - ' I
?Detect!?? eVgencj mi a ? an si
on the asee snd had Its? vered
Mew Tori ige froi the a
11? In '?? hi? h T :-e-ii -
?
N md
Psul had sn ; teresl In I
It wi . f
m? mbers of the ] f five ha?i i
\". a "i -..'-. Bur
? ? ? ? iid t i- mem
? ' ' Ith repnt.it
. inmen
i>r Raymond ? *'. Kleb, Bunt
lei enl t?.-night g
oui a lull ? t .,'I pei ' na s ho
Ite d Thau all ? Kleb ta ?'??
June 12.
William Vanamee, of Newbui
Harri Hit g, ot New fork;
Judge ' . ted, of Sen V?
Louie V'orhau . of Ne a Y??rk.
l. ?i n ? . f Nee? burgh, all
counae : i TI ? a, and ?liai I ,
Thaw, the prisoners mother,
Th.- wen a . i ? Bal :. s Ith the
? -n of Hirsch berg and V inane
undi r mce of a i ard ? I
th. j I ? -.? ; uni, ] haw. Hir.-.-hl.
snd Vsnsmse, ha asid, were pern
i te?!, under a ree ant court ruling, to
Thaw alone. The Isst man to
Than alone ?from tha outside ara
im? e, ha asid. Ha a aa with h
from .". to .'? o'clo h last Friday sib
noon,
A ??? il ' month ago, i ?. Kiel, ?a
H. J, Ra a .. Bte nogrspher ir??m i
office ?if Clsrence J. Bhcarn, formel
Thaw'a counsel, .?sk..? to be permit:
to hsve sn Intervies with Thau, p
riquest was refuse i
Dr. Flint "Old and Peevish."
The Intervies ?given oui by ?Dr Au
tin Flint, <>f Nee York, in which I
Flint sssslled Dr Klsb and ssld th
if i>r. Amos T Bsksr was still Bupstii
tendent of Mstteswsn Thaw wou
never have escaped, was shown tu D
Klsb to-night. Ha asid
"I'r. Flint is becoming Old and past
ish ii.- is bet m tus ways I won
make snj reply to what ha says nov
bul i m.i> do ao later, probablj arlthl
a l.i'. ..?r two."
in tha afternoon Morrta Koenig, a
assistai,! Dlatrict Attorney ??f Nc
Torta ?.?uno. srrivsd al Mstteaws
und held a conference with Dr. Kiel
Ha -aid that the purpose "f his visl
wsa to offer tha prison authotitlea th
lanes of his ofii? e m case any o
ths details ?if the plot t?i liberate That)
wars h.a. hi?i In tha Jurisdiction of th
New fork District Attorney.
Despite the aaaertlona >?f ?Howard H
Barnum, th.- gatekeeper, whom Thav
dashed ?past in his break f?.r liberty
i thai he is innocent ??f say arrongdoini
and that sn effort la i?-tn?r Banda U
I make him the "goat," both the Dis?
trict Attorns) snd Dr. Kiel? believe he
j will finally brash ?l"wn and rsVSSJ th?
whole inside history of the plot to giv?
I Thaw his ?n-edom.
it la ?believed that tins win show that
an Inner ling in the hospital was in
the employ ,,f Thaw for years, who
worked ami waited to Rain him his
liberty when at last he Bhoutd ?rive up
all Idas of getting out through lr-gal
procedure.
This rim; was said to have been made
up of guards, attendants, and even cer?
tain of the lower grade of officials. Mr.
Conger r",,k a number of statements j
fri m employes .it the asylum to-day in
an effort to piece out the full story of
the \? orklngi ol this conspiracy, Among
the statements obtained at the asylum
for Mr. Conner was one from Mrs.
James Maher, a laundress at the insti
tUtl. u. who saw Thau make his es?
cape.
She bore out Barnum's denial of Dr.
Kleb's charge that Barnum ran to a
t< lephon?* first, before he gave i verbal
?larm Mrs Maher BStd Rarnum raised
;ni out? ry as soon as possible after the
escape.
Other statements were obtained from
James Maher and Edward Mulhall,
attendants In the hospital tenl Maher
said that Barnum did nol seem at all
excited after Thaw's escape. He said,
h iwevi r, thst as BOOB as Thaw escaped
Barnum called out to Joseph Buckley,
who was m charge ?,f the storeroom,
that Thee had run away.
Mulhall said he saw Barnum an'! '
Thaw Bitting side by side on a bench i
Thau snd Beraum, he said, got up
and walked fr?,m where the?- ?.?,.??-?
tlnsr toward the pate together, 1mm?*
?i ately after the es, ape he said Barnum
r ushed ..s tnai .-?s b? could toward the
trate aft.-r Thaw. All trace ol th? route
i.f the Packard car In winch Thaw
iped was lost afte? it left QlenhalL It
was admitted to-day The last pel
who could ssy thsl he definitely i I
wes Robert Lowery, ? irr,., er of Glen?
hall. who said he ??saw th? ? ar st?,p in
fr'.nt of his plsu e .
"Photeqraph of Man in Car."
When !.. was Bhown I phot "prraph
of " BIk Dick" Butler he said it ?.?
photograph of one of the men In th
car. He said he was in conversatlo
with the men in the car for seven
minutes Another man In Matteawa
who said that Butler s photograph wa
th? likeness of the leader of the flv
men was Lewis G. Spence, manager I
the Beacon Opera House.
Although there were many person
In various directions from Matteawai
who were at first reported to have seei
the car with Thaw in it, when the,
stories were carefully investigated to
day all of them proved to have only th
haziest kind ?if impressions, whicl
Were discarded as being useless ll
trai inc: th.- route of the tlight.
Details of the conduct of the fiv?.
men who assisted Thaw to escape dur?
'nf? their stay at the Holland hotel wer<
??riven to-day by William Gordon, owner
of the house, who appeared as a wit
| ness at Poughkeepsie. Next in author?
ity to Butler in the party, he sud,
s? ? m? ?1 to be the man who registered M
Roger Thompson. He said that Thomp?
son was far the most genteel appearing
[ o? the men. All the others he said, were
"rough" and spent their time drinking.
Thompson held himself entirely aloof
from the others, h" said, and in con
\ersations with Lern Churchill, mana?
ger of the garage, showed he was thor?
oughly familiar with automobiles and
well \ ers?d in the highways leading In
and out <>f Matteawan.
In the , ??Mrs?' ?,f his COM l rsa?on he
let drop the fa?t that he wa3 from
Pittsburgh, which was taken as par?
ticularly significant
Two Parties Seek Butler.
Tw<-, i srties Btartea out i.ist night to
search for the five mon who aided
Thaw- in his escape. The first party
'?insisted ,,f Sheriff Hornheck of
[hitches, i Mint ? federal deputy, a
Burns detective snd Wlllism Gordon,
owner of the Holland Hotel it Mat?
teswen, where the conapirators put up
Friday and Bal Hornbeck and
his men left Matteawan al 8 10 p. m.
in an ait mobile, and the Sheriff would
no inkling ? f his deetinetion. As
Gordon was th? man who identifl? .
1 photograph of Richard ?. Butler, the
ex-Assemblyman of Hew Tork. as
' t ins n? - patrons '-r ws ? I the
Sheriff and his companions teere "n the
trail of But] r
TJ ll ? g ol Dis
tri? t Att? rnej . longer of Dub I
Count; ? ????? tive end Robert
K '. ' ? ? . er, left Peekeklll
Landing on board the 10:3. p ni train
toi New V..tk !.. the man
?,?. h?. | ?? ? th? i itbaeitlee their
? ??? Inform itl m ? t the escaping
party Th? I ? irs In which Thaw
the other ? onsj Irab rs
Man. ?v, .ii -? pped in fr??nt ot
Lowery's grocery store al GtenhaU, an l
talk? ' . them f..r aei arel min
:. identify
I any of 1 D? the tS BUl :..? -.Its.
TRYING TO SHUT BLAME
FOR ESCAPE. SAYS GATEMAN
[Yrrvn t Pu" ?Torre*?]. ,. ft
Re.T-on. N Y. Aug 11 Howan
l:. rnum, the atte ? I i I I Mettes? in
1> t Thaw eses pe, made the Folle s
? ??? this 8ftern?oon through ? - sttoi
t'erdlnand a Hoyt, nf Matten wan:
"1 am ti ft - ? , ? :. md ha\ 8
? for sevenl ?
int In th* Mstteswsn State Hoej
During the time of my servi, e I
i occupied man'.- different ptSSltieMM,
! hue e f r v.-\ .??..; , keepe
?I ?? . tat Kite .?n the hof.pit.ll i
"in this position I carried the he)
? ' : ;t a ?? n i lut) ?
?Seta t" a'lrr.'.t ,m> ?>'-r!?"n wh?? bed i
il the hospttsL
"Por s'?me time Harry Thaw h ?s I
1 .?s-- gnsd b) the supeiintenelent
'?Istsnt In the ?t'?rer??Ain. and II
' the custom lor the keeper in
! ?permit him at certain times In the da
? ? a In the yard, ""his yard la on
I northeast corner of the bulMing. an?
inded bs a hiih t osr : fence in arl
there is on? rate, and thrre is nothlnR
T1 is f< n e between the \.ird and the ft
The have been In th? habit of all'??
?? ? liberty of this yard sev?
days every week, and his preser.e tl
ecurrencs
Thaw Tslked with Gusrd.
' ' ?n ?Sundaj nv?rnm>? Thaw came
into the yard, as near SB I '?en flgi
? 7 li, He walked about for a 1
minut?e and then casse to th.? ?bei
where I wax ?sitting md b-'s.^n a ?
versstlon with me He spoke
sit?ele wh!? h ha?) been publlshsd In
locsl paper, a copy of Which he ha?l
In-, hand, ahout the ?-"ntriluitton wh
he had made to th.- (lenrral Btcklea fB
"While we wer?- talking the bell wh
la ? BBSMctsd w ith the outer gste ra
This bell :s rung by a wire. Which har
outside the ?xste 1 went t?> ?the eat?' a
I through the h? le in It to BBS >?
r/as there i saw Hickej*, the milkmi
arbo dellvsred milk ea?h ?lay. snd
opaoed the ?rate to ?admit him. Thi
f.iiioweii Borne little distan?*' behind t
and ?ame up to the cat.?, as he had do
a greet number of times before, so tl"
I thoucht n.?thine of it
"After the milkman ??rove in an?! I w
about t?i ? lose th?? ?gStS, an?! had ClOB
It a short way. I h?-.ir?i an SUtOmob
in the OUtStde. I saw i hla? k aUtOBBOb
<?n the road nearly In front of t
gate, snd from ll to -?"> ?feet from
i At the same time Thaw, who was
| little hehlml BBC, BBSde .i sudden lei
past me and dart.-.l through th?- gat
I way toward the car. I saw- the .?. e
I pants "f tha car open the ?loor. Tha
i ran directly toward the car. I call?
[ upon aim to st??i> and started la pursui
but before I had K?>t a step ?r two fr?>
the R.ite Thaw was in the ?\ir and ll
mschine wss In motion.
i "I BSW pursuit was useless, and turne
I and ran back at once. shouting to t)
I man In charge of the tents in the yai
I that Thaw had got away. I ran to ll
| nearest telephone, which was in th?- Bl
Cine roeim, and called up the ke? root
' Where the central telephone is locat?
and where the attendants report ?'???tt::]
.the connectt >n may have taken a mlnui
I Or tWO, as I had to ring twice, but
I finally got the key roOSB ami report?
that Thaw had es?-ape?l from I he ?.'ate 1
an SUtOBSObile and t?>ld them to report
to the office at once.
"Th?-y ran?: up in a minute and wante
? to know the color of the automobil.-, an
\ I told them it was a black car. and ha
I gone toward Qlenhapn?
Attendant for Seventeen Years.
"I was appointed an attendant by Di
Allison seventeen >ears ago. and hav
j been retained by all four of his succ?s
sors. During most of the time ? hav
been in charge of the rear gate Thai
I has been given SSCeSfl to the >ard jih
| permitted at will to go to any part of tl
1 had nothing to do with regulating hi
I movements, and he was in tne habit o
going out to the ?ate when it opened an?
closed, time and time again. He ??ai
?riven access to the yard by the store
k'-ep.r. with the knowledge of Dr. Ki-.-b
th.- superintendent."
According to Barnum, the attendant!
are . ? ? arms
? ? . ? .
it it is in.. - s for any
man guarding it ? reveni . ?t.. nt
- ? . !
i-'r m the time thel Th.iw ? un? ip b<
? rough
th.- get? to i that he wee la th?.
i brief Interval elapsed, and I
.? one en. ht possibly h..ve
[ tried I [,ir
him, und when I saw it was of no
une I gave an a
I Iff 1 ..-?? the yard
.' ? gab und 1 have
never bm ? 1 by any?
not to permit him to do .?. Be ha .
g this I ' ihe
kn?.w\. dge of practl no In the
? ?
"During my years of set I have
\ My hours as gate!
: T O'ClOCk
', In ths
? ! bad no hint or Intimation of Thaw'g
j Intention I ? . the ?.ard
, and around gats, a; bs wss permit?
ted to i ? i before. When
lie new ja^t me i ? ml
struck ?i'ii.il. With I : then, re
oiBring tn: soli [ cs I ?'t?e?l
. ' and than - :rm
? .- lent Kleb to
,'? me in the affair I and
? ms that they are I .-1
to shift V
for the system a :t easy f?*r th??
escape and rend? at?a?
la my i'O
t u."
.v _
\ "EVELYN SHOT," REPORT
Bursting Auto Tire Excited
Theatregoers.
just is Mrs Evelyn HesMl Thaw
stepped from her automobile and hur
ned through the ?uetomarj ? urtona
crowd to the stau?? entrence at ihm
: mersteln's Theatre about 9.30 o'clock
| last el enln?r an automobile tir?*
blew out with a loud rep'.rt. and a
! man BhOOted, 'Harry Thaw l'.as shot
Evelyn."
Streams of humanity from all part.?.
?,f Broadway poured around into 42d
street, anl traffic Stopped SS if para?
lyzed, policemen <>n ti\?-? poet whistled
and rapped for help, and ? donen police?
men sppeared and started trying to
break up the crowd, Mrs. Thaw was
well Inside th? entra?a before th?
rush began ami eeceped being crashed
by the mot?. Even after the arrival of
reserves it reojuired s tiuerter hour's
work to Bet the crowds once more in
motion snd dispel the rumor of a new
Thaw tragedy.
?SAYS HE SAW THAW YACHT
! Captain of Liner Reports Boat
Off Delaware Capes.
(P.y Tf.|?-Rraph t<> The Tribune.]
Philadelphie, a i il C?ptala If. L
Mendus, ?if fe steamship Haverfsrd,
which ?lo.-ked here to-day. rep' rted that
he Blghted B st. ?,m yacht Just iWore
dews this merniaga with no lights show?
ing and heeding out to sea at full speeJ.
The craft sped almoet beneath the bow
of th?. Haverforil. narrowly escaping col
' lislon.
A number of passengers who were on
de?"k awaiting the first glimpse of the
Delaware ?apes were almost thrown Into
a panic when the clanging of the b?*IIs
in the Haverford's engine room brought
the huge steamer to a halt, while halla
through th.? nvgaphones from the btldg?
brought BO rseponee from the yacht,
"in my opinion,'' sai?l Captain MendUS.
"Thaw was aboard the yacht and bound
for some island In the Mediterranean, or,
perhaps, the coast of Africa, ?here he
would be safe forever."