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11 I
I
isn't aay, but n?
Q.- -*J| i
\ I ..'? itive. but
been at the table when I
he muy ba\ e come in
ppei.
I.ell Sapper TabU.
ng.
.
L Yet,
l?*. ! | ?
'.' 1'
A. No', ti ' r th* ltlii
had
q D
?
Q. Did ; e th? iu
t}. U -, .. you ;?? . ? : sup]
A. In oom.
Q, Imm? v 7 A. Ye
Q, VI ' n'
\ i undress?
ii. What then! A. 1 lay on
bed
i' Hos
\
<^. Did you leave ; our l? ,1 to
re befon- ? was fir
A. 1 !.:;> on my bed i
t.1. You btc. then. Mrs. Cs
. the loom, y?
room, from the time you ent red
immedi until y
beard I V \ ??.
leave it
y. Was an] one in your room w
A. No. !
This was the first impoi
made in for Geoi
Colder i ?.?? said positivelj thai he si
ie portiere
ante-room not more ve minut
iro the shooting, and
in thai point she contradicted tlat'y.
"Which d'd you
- breaking?" s
attorney.
"I do not know." Mrs. Carman a
? ed.
"I heard some noise, an unu?u
noise. I do not know whether I
th?' (?lass breaking, I cat
When 1 heard it, i ? ent 01
>n tl ? matte
I i ?? ?-.. ter, '?'? i. To- ell. ar
% were running dowi
nothing to either ?
them nor did they .-ay anything t
Q.- Tin. il your hear in
good? A. Well, yes; at least one en
i; l have had a littl
? ? er.
Q. Now, ' fact, whie
heard, the shot or th
l? rea i | .
A. I said I heard a noise, an un
usual noise. I did not know what i
I don't know that I stepped ti
lounded like an unusua
Q. ". en J OU wen
??nt in th? V I looked dowi
? -ce what ! eoull
i' What \ I saw tw?
.; through the hall. 1
did m
\ Dramatic Moment.
ii . you do aext? v i
back into my room and pul on
slipper* and a kimona.
Ge on, A. 1 went downstairs
ami m I ng room.
There ?i? dead silence in the room.
It ?.is a dramatic m?>niefrt. In making
i be last statement Mrs. Carman had
rtsrttsed GoMer'B statement that he saw
her in the waiting room immediately
aller Min?. Baile) diet!. Smith hesi?
tated before Ike next aaestkm and Mrs.
I arman leaned forward ?lightly. Her
long. sliapel> fingers ?ere twitching
nervous ?.i and roiling ami ancolllni
little lace handkerchief ahieh she be
i i .1 vi rer, vas the <>nt> e* ??1er
i>' nervou neaa sin- show?-.I. snless i
dropping m lier voice might be tak
as an Indication of her reelings. \s ?
?caned forward she fastened her c>
on 1'ic District Mtornev and did ?
take them nIT him meo during the pi
oi the examination which followed.
e said I
taking the stand .ha; he was
! spl?
did nerve, remarkable courage. Acre
from i ten fe
husband. Dr. '
' he was
? itrs ched I
. strain
kid, and pe
.. tod m
, ?? vv a- vv o
"1 ? ?
' asked the D I attorney.
"I did not; 1 stayed in I i
loom."
you go into oui ? ?
band's offlci ?" si apped ill. Smith.
Fot ? momenl Mrs. < 'arman pause
ng "i w ard and smilii
?nil! in tones
; low t'na' she could no! be '.'-ard mo
"You see. it ?;:s tins way. M v ho
band and I bad some trouble. We hi
S little tils?, von know, and he told n
neift-. never to Come in bis ?duce ?? hi
he bad patienta. Ile told me never I
go lato bis otlioe. and I ?lid not go i
ilien i?ir ihai reason."
Q.- Bui this time j ou we;
not sfraid that ho would r? b?ke ,>o
\. He forbade me an
I obej ad h "i.
Q, H il j ou knew thai son
?erious had happened? A, I did so
know how serious it was.
Q. V i' , i.i ???> ?t -,'.., ? ; A.
I knew something bad happened, but
did not know what,
Q, You nuist hr.ve known it was se
ficus i,, your mother ami sister woul
not ha1 e ran downstail . or you. A,
I did not know v hat hud happened.
{}. And you did not go in? \
bean! my huaband'a voice. T'na' showe
me be was all tight. He
o l went back to my room.
Says She Obeyed Order?.
Q, But. Mrs. Carman, as a matte
? do ye i ot ?no* 11 st wha
your husband told you was that yoi
offlci
bad patients there, and create a seem
with them :is you did ilia' nay th?
Hein on woman was there'.' You knew
not fear he would re
i you for going in his offlci thai
night .' A. He told me never to gc
his ortice when be was there with
. ? ts,
y. Didn't you know the woman via
dead? A. I didn't then: I knew it
vas serious, but 1 had heard bit
? glancing at Dr. Carman 1 and that was
tnough tor inc. He criticised me for
1 '. Did you ?ee the doctor? A. No.
I beard his voice.
?,i. Did you see the couch'.' A. No.
y. Was the door to his room open'.'
A. It was ajar. I think. I
safe. 1 knew he w-as all right, und l
1 new lomething had gone wrong. I
? ol n the ante-room long.
>; Then you wen', to your l
A. Yes. I went up to my room
t-ilked with Elisabeth, our little
daughter.
Q, Wore you on the pia;-.r.a after
Supper ? A No. I v. .? - i ol
Q, Did you tell your little girl *o
st?>p playing? A. - S'es; I to!?l Elisa?
beth to atop practising. I -as up
when 1 her.
Q, Von positively did rot wr.'k
downstairs imm your 'oom after you
'.?ont up before the shooting.' .'. I
did not.
Q. You di?! not during that time
by the portieres of the ante
room or into the kitchen and there
turn the faucet ('n" A. No. sir. I
d U not leave my room until after the
shooting.
DOCTOR'S WIFE TELLS OF
PUTTING IN DICTOGRAPH
eation
. v hich >l -
man installed I eonversatioi
? omei
I lediatel?
to get in a ra|
-old her th?
I ?:! s th?
' ' '
purchase, and she emphasi
her ident ty to
r that all lu r t ran sac
?
to any one."
?Mr
.
d "I ; ad
. ? :
nstrument
o" '? ;,. , know? l
graphi i
lhat all you had to ?lo was to put iti
;> ? i .. nd it would
rer conversati
"\\ i ? o the company. I ^'<!
1 wa ?? I said that be
, ied to be one. Gaston
lionault, the manager, told me he
would never betray my confidence and
J gave him mj name. I told my mother
mat I ? * - . put in the dicto?
graph, and to me: 'You should
, b vo; you ar? unwise and ?
I d 'I it. I did not
I told Boissioaaul :
about the ?"<?? <r with the nur
Ves. I got the dictograph and had it put
? more fian two weeki after the
Describes Meeting with Nurse.
"Now, about this affair with the
Y,n went downstairs anil weir
to the window and rapped on it?"
"1 did." the witness replied. Here
the questions and answers ran thus:
Q. You wept downstairs and out
through the kitchen to the window
from which the shot was fired? A.
I did.
I?. You to the window?
A Yes.
y. How did you know the nurse
was in the office? A. Well, I knew
isd been in the waiting-room.
Q. How long were you at the win?
dow? A. I vas looking in foi * ' ?
minutes before I saw the doctor take
t the mot and give it to her. He
counted it ovi r. then he looked at her
and gave her fifteen dollars,
Q, Then you rapped at the window?
A I rapped on the window. Then I
\ ent around an?l into the house and
to the door. 1 knocked at the door, and
the doctor opened it at once. I \\alke<i
in. I told him that that was a pretty
Way for two old married people to be
have; that those wen pretty actions
them, I ?lapped hi r on th?- face
with the back of my hand, just like
: : s(en her kiss the doctor
un the cheek just before.
WITNESS SHOWS EMOTION
AS SHE ADMITS IRAI Ol ISY
He" O sd n ore emo
ated the li
-
iluntai
time
Durii ;
?
? . ?
go low?"
-.? d.
'I . d he;
?
." Mr
qoes
? ? :
.- Ily not ??
? at th?
>?
'
?
husband
? 'i a lit
?
?I ho I,
'
irt?
That was -?? i,?* de? ided me I
' ;i ? ? . I oan.
11 ; |
gav? ? | told her to
. do?
? d<
.
at.? Th?
'* ? ? ******
'out until Wednesday morning? A .No,
iair.
(>. \\'h; did : i It out then ?
A, I took il out because ' kn?
doo'or wa iled 1
thought it would be tOO bad for him to
0 II aboil' it and to think thai I
had dono C?a' to him that she
did not tru ?t him. I wanted him ?
thai i i him.
tj. But you didn't tell him ab<
A. I never den ed t. I knee it would
be found that be would find It,
i). Isn't it s fad )ou took il i
cause you knew the house would be
searched? A. I knew t hi h thin;;
be look, d into; that s thorough in
r Huid have to be made; i
ould not b -
'.' u at time d d you take it or '
A I aut about .', oi
Wedne day morning, before brei
ai d put t ii the garret, Mj
. I told her it was a dicto
d thing
and i hing moi
W Well, that ev< ing about
... i ' Ranci?
? r and Mi?. I'o??.ell w?
i .
rid about the dit tograph, ?? hat n ?
A H' -aid, " w II,
. da aaythi -
.. ?? .
hm.v. Nothing of lirearms.
(ain.an testified that she kiiiw
toll or Hi
know a big i
from .i little one, or a ..'?H cnl.i, r
! calibi ?.
"i jppo s I might if I -
ed." h?
"Ar< you left handed?" asked th ?
ded, i p led, In
atantli i p . end b? i i oui ?
held by many i hat. i
cording to Di I ? ti timo
| h,i- ?
i | <? qu? tloi
i am Hu > point ran :
(y. W'L? bU? ?ou go to rltW the Ov??J?
DISTRICT ATTORNEY SMITH QUESTIONING ?>?! CARMAN AT INQUEST.
1
' of Mrs. Bailej ? A. Mr. Levy asked
me if l would be will and I
told him I would,
(). When did Mr, Levy call ' \
Mr. Le* y called on V\ ednesday
noon, I told him I had seen the ?
noon papen und thai they wen- con
neel ing mc with 1 I asked
him if he would advise me end be my
COUn el it I need' d him, and h? .-aid he
would.
ii. v. to Hempetead at
\ on r requi A. It not. It wa i
at Mr, Levy's.
Q, When wa? ' ?u were
I in the doetor' office? A. it vas the
time that the woman was there; the
nurse. 1 don't recall ever having been
in the office since then, but I don't re?
call that I haw not perhaps on one oc?
Cas,on.
11 Did . " i I
.lune 30 i I aph '.' A. No, i
did not try to I, i"n thai night.
<J. Thiit is all, M is. ?arman.
Mrs. Carman left the land Het
husband joined her and together thej
left the hearing room, Mrs. Carman
showed no ? he ordeal.
GRORGR GOLDER BEING SWORN,
ARCHIE POST.
DOCTOR, NERVOUS, CANNOT
RECALL WIFE'S MOVEMENTS
i ,, onei Soi ton called Dr, ?
? . land a
ly m ? i m that ' -
breaking under the U
i
his uncei tain voice and in
ter winch ... relie
valve, though to ever? observer it wa
evident that hi Could
rt of the |
ing?.
He wai i same grr
business :u*,t he wore thi morninj
after the tragedy. After beinj
he gat e his aid hi
had practised m? i twenty-livi
yean in Fnepoi i*gOut twelv?
had had offi? - ? m his pi ? sen
home. I!i< examination began thus:
Q. When did Mrs. Bailey reach youi
office? A. At 7:40, I think.
(?. Where were you then?
i> When were you then.' A. Eat
1111_ ",iii)"
ii. When you wenl into youi oflici
what d:<l you do? A. { consulted witl
ill . Bailey.
(,?. Did you prescribe i'or her? A.
I preaeribed for her.
Q, What did she do? A. Siic paid
me.
Q, I? ii you ever see her befon? A
! don't recall < g her before
??>. Did you know her when she came
in? A. No. I may have seen her at
; don'; remember, Shi
may I i t '-? in my office Monday
? ?? ing, whin I hail to hurrv ovei to
Baldwin.
' ' Well, when ?hi I? ft ? 'nat did ihe
do? V.?She got up. I told her if she
would walk last ?he inuld make the
troll?-\. It was either the s or Ihe v:?0
trolle) I was walking on her right
alongside her as we went toward the
door. Just a? I pot m- band on Ihe
tbmrknob l?i upen it I heard Ihe break?
ing of glass. | looked around and sa?
the glass, breaking. I sa? the curtains
mining and a pistol?I think it ?a? a
nickel plateri pistol??a? ing and l?o
lingers of the hand which held it.
?J. Was ?t a white hand or a black
one? A. I think it was white.
Q. ?,'ould you till whether it va- a
coat or sleeve about if ? A. No.
(?. Could you ?"!! whether it was
B right or left hand? A. I think il
was th?1 I? ft hand.
Q. What did you do then? A. I
jump<-'i under the operating chs
Mrs. Bailey's l.asi Words.
(.?. What next ? A. 1 hea i d
? oi ? o ., p toi M Bail? ? ?aid in
?n easj ton?. "I am i hot.' I aid, "??h.
|i-l :. w, J OU'n not hot." She
Bga in. i lOO ened her clot I '??. I
looked OUt 'I windOW, It was daik
and I saw nothing. It wai all ble? k
de.
?,?. An about 'li<
A. I? would have hau t,,
, : IS or 8:30.
y. Go oi v \' Poi
. ? Golden came in. 1 ent foi
?
t?. What ". i \our -i' ;, i ending
foi him? A. '?'. . Bailey had
laid : he had m? t me a' I he Kimi
: M ?
el, and I thought he could iden
bod) ? I Una lly ?
down i : I got B< di : l and i e walked
bacV t< ?
Q.?Who <
? he bod ? ?'as on i he floor ? A.
Powell '?.i d Mn. Conklin. She
? d Up, and : i
'i And Mrs. ( i d ou ?
r ??- po e, oit i no!
think Mr?-. Cai
? vely whether I ?aw
not. i dot '' i ecall ?oemg 1 i i pa- . bi
I 'i I eel In r .! I bo W.I il m;
'com. She might hav? ther
J' I didn'l see her standing in the doo
way o i waiting-room i
?
??hell
le hall fro
'.' ' A.
don't - n
Hero ' he ? burst into nei
von- or a momi
ni ared lik? ii
I tac< d up a?ni m inat ion coi
: mu? il.
11 D I you a nd M r I! un ie ? sm i
Mrs. Bailey? A. Ves. I don'l knot
i., ? . ? bullet. Il '? ' s bon
o? d wa - ?mi ski d up.
<;. i thi ?' ? bull? ' ? ' : '
bullet extracted from Mrs. Bailey'
wound I A. I' ii" mue
? ?
Q. l?o yon ', ? re Mrs, Cal
man ? ? ". -y went int
; m- ' office V \. No. t.
(i Ha? o ? ou 'tonillo i?'
eentlj ? V No.
Q. When did you fii l learn abou
dictograph? A. When my wif?
told m< lat? Wedn? da; ?? "toi noon,
think t was 3 1er. sin
lied. I don'
?
t\ i dull;'- asl her -, he put
' Lore or took it OUt. I don't renn II bet
that anyt * Ise was aid about
l .?on'' recall making i. ? comraen'
about
>}. IV] ? i
office did ? on pull down tin
A. V? .
Q, 1 i?d >ou o ei pieaci ibe
ore? A. v". ii
Smilh Dismisses Doctors.
Then, to the astoni
i i i j one m t : i the Dis
v j r had i
;.,re.i. 8h i- (f l'i ttit ha itilj leaned
across tin table anil wh ipered some?
thing to Mr. Smith and he nodded hi?
head. In the mean I me Mr. Norton.
I ?? ? '-i. bad a l'ev question : to
ask.
?j, Wh? ? '?? Tu? ' da!
\ She wa the cit y. Her mother
.'lid tin little gil -?, her. She
ed th? '.*<?' ook th?
i ? t Thi. Ii 15.
She a? dre ci ii blue or
black, am! I doi '
Q Are you po itive :ha; Mrs, <'~r
to ' ' i i '.' ? of your
office after 1 - rs. Bailes ?
A, I am not ab olut? 1} posit.-. >? that
. ?:. bu' l am m??? ? posit
d id. I thii ?. i i h?
looking bis once, come
H to ' r.r old
Q Were tin e
. ound tin- pi-loi male ling? n "t fe
male Angers? A. I think they were
maseul . rs. 1
and capable.
y (loa long "a' he in our office?
A f'o ' ' ? on ? ijht and fteen nt nute
(J. Did you givt her sny other trea'
ment except the medicine? V No.
(?. When you ' neu shout the dicto?
graph you knew I had made s sear?
101 i? '.' A. \\ ell, I '.:,< ' -.nu bau
search? ?I tl.c office.
WITNESS SAYS HIS WIFE
SLAPPED WOMAN PATIENT
Coronel oi rd to permit M r.
I.e. -, ' o m . - on,
lh< District Attorn? y strongl) ob
I l ? - .11. ,
. ' the inque t. Th? i1 Ir.
itio
lu repl) i" , .'? ? 01 Dr, Corma i
orne ",,?? h ?. igg? t i ',,
Mrs. ( he tell him abo it
the '?
and she had 'nude the ban statement.
OH! and nplil I run :
I U n did your wife put ui the
\ , in' wanted to hear
,,: I gUeSS.
II i. ' ? i..i ion " '??
of youi offie? ,n
be ? i. : , I ; a pat.'
' - Varians, ron
:, ' III I '
" rh? it ii? xf A. I hen ?!.?
? i ?.n ' in offie? flooi She si?l:
"l.'i me In." She came mi" mj
? i '] ig. no I ''I : 'I h i i a m ???
plee? ? t Ii ? m? IfoU i? il IN nice I
i people lo beban tail ?rag, iin, la ajeo
? '. m m and ? n .->i i '-,i ? orn?
an. Mice for a married man to be giv?
ing 'nom., to a married .is n nol h 11
wife."
In response I a Mr. Smith' ? r?
'(io on," the doi tor explained :
?? Wei I. Mi ? '? srti n i had come
pay me torn? i 101 ? o ie. She
aid: 'i s am to paj > ou ha?
I told her ?1 Shi ssid
ad: 'I ? ant '?? ? ?.u back
that >:.'., and te bai ros $60 '
"I aaid* 'Well, i i on to me
to nay in- $26 and bol?n' $60.' I g| I
her $15 and the usual story ?boni be?
ing bard up and broke. We sat doU'n
and talked, and then when 'o gol Dp I
gH\e her the $16, Sha said I bad been
ai . ?? i - j 1 good ' lend of hei und she
would pay me back; thai the did sol
ho in could Imv e ?at ;, ong
?? ithout m- . sid I ras one ol her bo*t
II m-:.d ,i en i I had cold? d h< r,.
lime '.
.me i,n ? he
forehead ar lemewhere, I did nal re?
membei about t hat, I hen mj '
came in and demanded the money. Ami
ahe, tin nuioc, a*kcd nit what to ?Jo. I |
IV? '
?aid ??. and she i i
Q. I> ?I ; oui ?f ? fe st rike her? V
When ?he cam? n I ? hinl ihi
. ? ng ?
Q. What indow d ,;
'.. i- ??. as ?
? d.
11 \\ hat did > ou say to oui
A, I told her'if she evei cam there, in
-,- oft . . 'between
i er and m? Pro that tii tl ough,
e be?
... . ...
gether.
i, \\ | ? : - ? ... your wife
rapp? d on t h? ? indov ? A.- It
? ; o '?. i then,
We v ting oui nia in
op?
Q. II
,,11 and M -. ?arman
No, u ; we have b? en the
best ?? ? r ends.
?./. Do you kno? whei ihe
graph vas in -ti ... o \ ! ? ? i in
tiled e day a he i mj w i fe and I
were awaj on K' nnedj 's yacht. I
.?!'? i ? ? he oc? urn nee of th?
Q, Who occupies th? rent room of
? i house? A My wjfe ?"?! myself,
Much time wa* occupied hi UUC
ing Dr Carman nbout what guns !
? : ?wn? ? ud i:
?
f- brought o. h In tub tance onl
h ? knew loi h mi abo i
ol ver II
a ? ce. 11
did no
s old !>i to!. 01
i slibre. He didn'
kno ? b? tween them.
Iir. ? arman ?aid he bed gone to Lyn
th? murder an?
lir.-l also called al Kimmel' . in Hemp
. because he was told -t wa^ prop
o.i so. A cousin "f th?
? ??' t hat nam?. ha?
told him there he ought to \>-,.y Mr
':. -it. 'nut. ho added, h? had not
He expli ' he had de
I hi ; cali to the Bailey homo bi -
Coroner Xorton had instructed
o ta to "Utsido nersoi --.
. hi ? exam
? "t :
Q. How was Mr-, ? arman di ( ed
iln nighl of the shooting ? A. In white,
i ?' 11 rs.
Q. After Mrs. Bailey was ?In.
did Mrs. Carman have on" A. Mrs.
? i ; id on :. kimono, I think, when
Dr. Runeie went up to her room. We
bad only a general talk then on gen
eral things.
WILL SUBPOENA NURSE
MRS CARMAN ATTACKED
Mrs. Yarians, the nurse, who aecorJ
?tig to Dr. Carman's testimony tO-df.?
had her face ilapped by Mrs, Cannai
in the physician's office si\ Or ci;;'.'
%'eeks ago. will be lubpesnaed to ap
near a; the continuation of the inquest
?m Monday.
Siieri-T Pel ? ? 'i, ? ded on thi? i ou" ? ??
to-night after going over the testimony
in which her name t'.gured thil
i ,,,,',. He I" lievi ? ihe can jhed inn
further light on the mystery, H? Ii?
reeled that a subpnsna b? sened on hsr
anew.
The Sheriff, n was learned to-' .
'ought in B number 0? private ?1? -
'rom Neu Yerk to work on the
murder case. While he hss not Changi I
hi--, opinion as to the person h<
pecti of committing the crime, be i?
m red to run down ever] clew o'
fered.
i - il the suspects, .? woman, hat
i.n .' patient of 1 )r. ('arman. ?ftoi
talking to hei for an hour to-night, thi
i: -aid. she was able to prove ai
alibi. The Sheriff admitted that a i>
other womai h siso under suspicior
ai .1 that the detectives 'rom New Vorn
would bi put on her trail to-morrow,
i he Sheriff to-night said the mys
turrounding the shooting would
continue as batting ns ever until thi
i ? - o! er fr ?m ? inen the fatal shot was
fired i- 'ound. .1. had detectives at
? orl all day long searching near the
Carman house for traces of the weap?
on, bit met with no ?.uccc-s.
Ho is anxiously awaiting the report
of oti m' his detectives whom be sen*
? ?ir on a report from Krank Barg?, of
Rast Roekaway, that be had overheard
a eon- rrsetioi m which the place
'here the revolver had been purchased
l ad been ?lisclo
MRS. BAILEY LEFT GRABAU
HOUSE TO RETURN HOME
Freeport. July S. T" ? Tribune r<
,??.,.,. M,,. John W. Grabau, oi
ville Centre, at n-bos? >>,,111P Mr*' lta,Uv
..,?.?, the Bfternoon '? ? ? '* l0
,, , .,,,;,??-. gave I'M' bei first |
tonal statement lince 'lu- shoot
Graben wai I close friend oi th?
dead i ornan. She has been 111 foi ?
orsl months, and that, coupled *ith
earing of ?he murder,
? impossible for he.- to ?
an, ?ne but the immediate family.
Mn Graben ?I of the 'yp" usu.-.'lv
,ooku. of as the ?old-fashioned''
. According to her. Mrs. Bailey
VU a woman of her own kind, pri?
ed |n her home and efcil
dnn.
mA|| , , liming th? childret .
loved Mr ? Bailey." '" ??>"??
?w, aeeam? frieadi more than ?in?
go, when her brother and i
,., had lorn? beoia? i nial
,,,? thMt time we |i?-.c seen c.'.-'b
other often.
i..t Tuesday ihe ram? '" "* "l0
been ill fo ? . -
-? -.'? ?
,.?,1 of doctor?, bol she .1 d
on being 111 herself or anything
i,, ?arman. In fact, I never havi
heard her ?peak of Dr, Carmai i
MRS. CONKLIN VERY ILL
B ie The Tribun?
Fneport, Long Island, .lui.. ",.
p, bile I if. Carman as te I if) -i,;,' a'
the inquest te-day. Mrs. Platt Conklin,
hi mothet "i b ?, was taken seriously
ill Bl his home. Bad for h tilBS it wa.i
thought he woald net roeever.
Mrs. Coaklin bas been prostrat.,1
Inee th? murder at her di ugh
i,, . home, bul her renditiea did net
become lerioui until tais Bfternoon,
... i,,,, ih< collapsed and her heart be
j.,lM tu tail, she m in ? serious <?>n?li
lion t?> night I>r Bad Mi ? ? arman
Tir n,,t told ?>f the lllnesi of Ml
touklu. until alia* -.. -.? .... i
ne?. f even had heard of him before
thai terrible night.
"Mr . Bailev wa? very kind and very
, . 'ami I i h sure that she
left In r husband and children that day
beeat ic sh? heard I was ilek. We
ed for several hour-. She vas a
bright, active little woman and it was
plea .' ' 'Ol me to have her near.
"About ti o'eloc! shl said that -he
- home and help ab"Ut
getting dinner. I suggested thai she
call my husband up before ihe lett.
und so ?lie went to '.he telephone, ami
"ben |he got hu.i on the wire pre
tendod that she was giving an order
.h some gram. He recognised her
voice, nnd then she came back iaugh
i ? and said:
"I couldn't fool i.im."
"She ?eft the ' ? ? ?-. n edl; . sfter
ing im goodb; , si d I ?aw her run?
ning to catch th
Il il four loi : bl ? -. - from ' iie tira?
ban house i" ,|" tree tear line where
Mrs. Bailey bo.-.rded .-. car. presumably
bound Tor her bunio.
Mr . Crab lid not
lee whether Mr . Ha lej continued run?
ning until he reached the car.
"i tl ;:." Ml", (?rah; U
continued, "when vie hoard that ?Im.
had been -hot, I wondered M
ne for (he t
t ol mad? hoc ?ek and ii ihe bad not
?rone to the do? tor's office for Ciat reo?
I remembered then t' hi Mr?. H?
Ii ;. 's lip ? had been erv pale all ,.
the afternoon. Sh? probabl) wa? hah
lick In rsalf, bul ?-. an) thing
eliout H to me because ihe was afraid
il might depress me, when she had
lome to cheer me up.
"Mrs. Bailey vas a very lovable
woman. Ever) one who came in eon?
tact w'th her wn?. attracted to her. !>??
cause he wa, always so rorj kind
and sympathetic, If men liked her it
wa not because ihe tried to draa than
ta ho,, but because the?, could not help
but admire her a? a splendid woman.
"She ? ai m iv fand ot her ham?
her family, and almost always ? ben
'?? ? ? me ?lo inought ?oine
Of them with her."
Mc. Crab.?.i ?va equally emphatic as,
?o Mi Bailey's character and was out
ajood man) yeai i," be ?Id, "and l will
?loken m hi? comloiiui.it ion of those
-ho have >et Ugly rumors mi foot
"Us ItfM ???-- ?lia. ilailcj Col ?J
'.-... i th -i- h gtaly af hen 0
i.miiie-, o'-.ii h- ,,;ther. and
il nie ai beinf a
?man
POST ALMOST CERTAIN
HE .SAW MRS. CARMAN
Arel ? i'ost. the groceri cietk, wiio
vas in the waiting room with Colder ?t
the time the shot wa?. fired, ??j a small,
nervous asan. Ile vas the moit ner
of all the witneaaea. His exami?
na*.on ran in this manne.-:
Q, When did you reach Dr. Csr
iffice? A. It wai about 7:50.
0. Wno let yo i in? A. The little
girl.
Q. I>.d 'on iee Colder? A. No, I
didn't see him.
Q, Who did you see on the veranda?
A. I saw Mr?. Powell, ?he Was dre?.;ed
in light clothing.
Q. Ilid s!ie havf on eyegifas <.-?'. \.
! am po itlve ihe bed on tyec;la!<<cs.
.Mr?, i'owell testified she was no; on
porch and neither ?lid she
eyeglasses.
Q. Who came in 'he oTice while yon
voie ?here? A. A young lady and
C"'dor.
'.?. Uni you see ?n'. oni pass 'he
nortie-r.1? A. I saw no one pa?.?
through the dining room or the hall, i
a'. "Hon': p
now," to the child vho -va? playing o-.
the p
Q, '.'.'lier:- ,?.d the VOC" ' 0MC I 'Olli''
A. H iounded a?- though it enme f.-om
i< reh.
y. How long after the little girl
was told not to practise was ;he sho'
:.' ed .' V Eight to ten minutes.
(J. W hat aid you do afto'- it was
fired .' A. I ran outside and ?r.w noth?
ing.
Q. What ne-.t? A. I wen' ha?'; to
the n ?? n, i -:? ?? I believe I ?aw
Mr.?. Powell.
y. Ko you know Mr?. ? arman ?n??
would you recognize he? voice? A.
Ifes, I her, but I ?lon't behe ? [
would I?tegnise her \oice.
' i Well, befo ng did you
l-ear any one pass through the lower
pert of tae house ? A I hear?! somi'on?
r..i-? thr'iugh the kitchen to the deer,
Ihe person went from the front of the
'chen. It was walking
?<. v. hat tim? A r.ig'p?
after t e irtle girl ?????- told te top
playing : '?? or ten minute- befor?
??'
Q Did ? ? v noise lOUl
? irt ? '.' A. No, I di In'l hear am
The nortiere- ? dining
roon rere ?'most clo?e?i. There wai
,- ' .. mi i opening.
Q, After the shot what did you
A. I heard some on" ?a? -?it.
'?-id'" I d?j'
? ? i
didn't "tie sa\ "I .
y. ?',:.?.? became of th? I ro ?reate?
??i th? offiee? A. They disappeared.
" How long wee Mrs. Bail?
there i th Dr. < arman .' K. \
? ?linntes.
I ba't end?
.'? ' sminal ion i
I 'i.'ee :
autopsy rollo\ ?1. bringing to an en?J
. Oi - be inquest. Their te?.
timony wa* eoneluelv? of nothing. Ther
.
such ? condition of inflammation that
ti.ey had si ? a I
: linatioa.
urn? ?! ia?
til 10 o'e'o, || morning.
GOLDER SAYS DOCTOR'S
WIFE IS WOMAN HE SAW
v i George Golder, in hi? working
elothei and with a 'we days' growth
of beard on his face, hud taken the
itand end answer? d a few
questions, it ''ai apparent to every on.
that be would make s good ???
1 I < re was no hesitation about his re?
plie?. Iftei giving his occupation a
.. he said:
"It was 7 o'clock Tuesday evei ing
' v 1 .en I first arrived at the honn- of
Dr. Carman. 'Ihe room vas full of
people. There were two women sit?
ing on 'he veranda when I walked up
to the 'louse. One I took to be Mr?.
( enklin and 'he other Mr?, (.arman.*'
Q. Did you know Mrs. Carman?
A. ITes; I had ?een her many times.
Q Had vor. ?ver been introduced to
her? A. No: I had seen her often
and I knew her.
Q, What did you do when you
looked nto Ihe waiting room'.' A. I
sav ? full and walked away; it was
7?30 when I .'rot
Q How do ;. ou fix the time? A. I
io'.kou ?it my ?-.??itch.
'?> Ilov waa Mr?. Carman dressed?
A. She vas dressed in white. I did
not notice her hair or whether she
had gla.s?e? oo or not.
t}. Who wa? tn the waiting room
when you went in after coming back?
A Pol t and a lady were in there.
y. Wore the portiere? to the din?
ing room drawn? A. The portiere?
were liai' drawn.
(J. Did you see Mr?, (.'arman? A. I
.-?? Mrs. Carman pa is by the portieres
nnd p.'?- through the dining room to .
? - m nute aftei I
..?: room.
Q. Did you le? her ?gain* A. l'?
I saw her n?-- bj the portierei .
anon' fivi minutes beiore th? ? I
fired. She v u dnssed i n
afer looking ?B
the Meter'? office.
O, Did ? oo heat
child to stop practising on th? p
A. Yes, I he.'ird ? woman'? redt i
hei to -
Q, Whose voie? ? A. I think it was
Mis. Carman's,
IV What ?I'll you no when yo
in the oltiee .' A. I aid -onietbmg to
the ?Jot toi I did ot :.eip lif? thi
Bt once, ft lay on the floor 'or a littl?
" hilf. Ml I. ''onklin in.?1 Bl
w o m in had .?' ready i e
. . ? Co ' hod findirt.
niece of .-'lir.?le. which h?
appesred at
up tie wide xreen te give the ?
who iired th? ?hot an onportunit; to
get the pit . ' thro igh th? b
ow.
Tiic ' ? also told of ii
Elizabeth playing in the yard I
. oat <
before the firing of the shot. H
not know when ?he child had
then.
Then followed -|e dramatic bi
m of Mn, Carman nn?l Mn. I
and their standing iid? by
identification of Mn, (arman.
It apparently seemed itraage
spectaten in In? courtroom
cotild ever be taken for e ot ?
There ?s hardl;. a; riu'-'n Bl
?mil? liken?- - bet? <?? n them.
MRS. POWELL CONTRADICTS
ARCHIE POST'S STORY
Mrs. lila Powell walked to the
ness chair with compressed lips ard a
determined expression. She -aid .-the
?.va* a little deaf, and frequently quos
tions had to be repeated to her. Hev
examination began thus:
Q. On Tuesday Right, did you ad?
mit any one into Dr. Carman'? resi?
dence? A. I don't remember admit?
ting any one.
(;. !>id you ?it on the front porch?
A. I did not sit on the front porch
? Pout hud testified to seeing her, or a
woman h" took to be her, sitting there
when he came up.'
Q. What did you do after supper"
A. I went immediately to my room
upstair? after ?upper and stayed there
until the ?hot wa? tired.
y. Was the door to your room
e'osed? A. I don't know. It generally
left a little open.
t?. Are you Mire that you were not
sitting out on the porch with your
mother, and that you admitted no one
to the house ? A. As far as I remem?
ber, I am nute t was not.
<i. Well, what did you hear while
?on were sitting in your room? A. I
heard a noi?e. an unusual noise, which
alarmed me. It sounded like the
breaking of glas?.
Q, What did you do then? A. I
rushed out of my room and ran down?
stairs.
y. You ran downstairs? A. Well.
I rushed into the hall and asked ? bat
the matter was. Mother rushed out
v< i!h me and we ran downstairs.
Q. Well, what ne\t? A. I saw two
women going through the hall. I know
there were as many as two.
<^. Where did you say the two
?vomen were going? A. They were go?
ing through the hall toward the fron'
door. They blocked my way, and I
went around the house and through the
anteroom to the doctor's office. I
opened the door first for the women to
pa?? through. They did not know ex?
actly "here they were going.
Saw Mrs. liai ley'.? Jtody.
Q, Whe did you see in the office?
A. I IS ' tiie doctor und ?he man called
Colder and the body of Mrs. Bailo .
The doctor .-aid somebody had Dec?
shot
Q, Can you recall his exact word?'."
A No, sir. I can't recall. The wom?
an's body vva? lying on the floor to the
left of the office door. I stayed for a
while and helped arrange her hand?
when the body was put on the couch
and then I went upstairs.
Q. Who did >ou see upstairs? A.
I saw Mis, Carman in her room. I
beard her. Mrs. Carman was coming
out of her door when I ran out of BSJM0
before going downstairs.
C Ihn ?ne fallow you downstairs?
A. I don't know whether she followed
nie or not. I don't knot) whether he
lame down behind me. I heard some
One 'ake hold of the knob o' Mr . ? .. i
man's door a- I ran downstair?, and
that was all I diil hear. No. I cm''
say whether there arcs a light m her
room or not.
Q. Did Colde: ?ay anything when
you were n the office? A. (?older
.?aid that a woman had hi e?, ihot. \lv
ho.-: run,' :s pour. I think I told 'on I
helned pu' the body on the comb and
told tin hands.
(?. Did you go downstairs a .ecoml
turn ? A Yes. It wa the second
time that I .vent down that I helned
with Mrs. Bailey.
Q. I)t.! you 'see Mrs. Carman the1
second tinv? A. I did not sec Mi
Carman when I went down the iscond
time. N hen I vent into her room af
'or I wont up the iseend time the was
sitting 01 her bed putting her cloth?
ing on.
Q. What did ,he |mNr ?,, tnpr,7
A. I don't k-iow. I think she Iim.I on
a skirt, m lOSSS Skirts, .-sue had ? ,
shoes, and I think lh? was fixing .?,,?.
Hung ibout her Slothing,
Q. Did 'he ?ay anything'! v Sh?
wanted to know who was shot. Sh,
vas evnled. 1 was Crying, She
wii-n'l
l?. What nukes ?ou think aus wa.?1
excited " A. Well, I just kne ?
Her hair was down and -he had a
kimon : on. Tie b<
covering thrown back. She had
lying down.
Q. How were you dressed an
he? A. 1 " as dnesed in
She had on a blue skirt and
waist.
Q, Why did you rush down-tair? I?
fast? A. I know something aw ful had
happened
',_>. Did you know abou' i
graph'' A. No. I did no* ?
the dictograph until Wednesday morn?
ing, when Mrs. Carman WS
out. I saw her taking it out a'
told me i' ? graph.
Q, When was the doctor
she vus taking it out? A. I did not
sec him. I presume he had gone
down ?tait? before.
Q. Are you sure that o' I
of the ?hooting, before the shooting,
you did not turn th? water on in the
kitchen faucet or go from the front
of the house to th" kitchen? A.
1 sure I did not. I went up '.o my room
and staved there.
y. And ;ou did not sit on the
penh? A. No, I ?lid not.
That finished the material
many given by this witnei
quesMons of no importance finished
her examination.
FREEPORT CHIEF
HINTS AT ACTION
Denies Officials Are Trjinv: t?1
Cover Up Anything in Bailey
Death Case.
Roland B. Lamb? Pr?sidai
port and its chief ot ,
reponer for Toe Tribune bate to
"The result of the ; i qu< ?I
does not at least change th?
which ha* been in existence ii
the last two day?.
"We have run down main
we ha'.e found oaly one which ?
net been farced to discard, \v
asked District Attorn?';. Bm
whether the guard around the I
house should be withdrawn,
waa: 'No. you must keep
"I ?rill be glad when this iaq
aver. Then we will be able to -
th? lit nation better. Some of II
a pretty clear idea of it in on
minds, but this Is not the time
upo i that idea, although th? '
nu' be long in coming befen it
"We d? net '.vaut the public t?
th* ! ". ?? lure in Ft-, , pel ,
keep anything under co\ei In
luge wants the investlgstioi
Bailey murder pressed with ai'
ble -peed . , . and with ai'
ble efficiency."
That Mrs. Carman w.? i hy?t
throughou- the greater part of the day
WS the statement made last night by
Platt Conklin. her father.
"M\ daughter." said Mr, ? ?
"has been ?aacnred by this terrible
thing. This morning she ???.e way to
hel feelings for the lint time,
during the c.nlici part ,>? ti ,? ,i
in a hy.stericsl condition from time to
tune."
Although the Carman boas? aal
guarded, the doctor and hil
out automobil ing to-mght. chut ?I
Folicc l.amb denied reports th?t he
had ordered Mrs. Carina!, "im?. I
oner.
The ,stor\ that District Atlort |
Smith cm i' out early >e?terda> niorB
egardlag an laterviea with l**
negroes, Ch?ries Adams and I'ertJ
Smith, to which the) said the\
man running from the vlcinit?, s
? arman houee ?be atghl ,?f the ?hoe*.'
ing. was flatlv denied In boiii men l?>1
bight

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