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The Tigers Were Not Speedy Enough to Rush Through the Haughtor. System
Comment and Gossip
On Sports of the Day
By HERBERT
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Y\l | met ? ? prepared for the worst in thrir football same ?with
i New Haven next Satui . but bo, may it be ??ai?), arc
the Tigere, Th.? Vale ah | its of a rnosl ?ii--?pi>?>;r11-.ii*?r see*
eon. i? still I.? Id ?i high reaped bj I apta lr:?.t.k (Hick and hi-? men. They
know v. * it- ? .. ? things .??tirn?'! t?> the depths at Now Haven. They
remen.!'! an al B to 8 score of 1910, ?whi I red Daly's team, after go
tsnt down beion Bi uddenlj found itself. There
i? m ?. | ither miracle can be worked f?.r miracle it was thai
year. But Princeton an?! Harvard do well to take nothing for granted.
I he Case of Yale.
Dr 11-AT brea ??' critics faster than a salt water
rhe Yale i even, in my opinion, hi
ten so ] ich ha ? been lacking; it is
true, also, thai lint of confidence was losl through the unfoii
unate oach an'! . but all this nOU 1:-.
-?trfti,.- en only if the players can absorb
inough i- "? . w<aekt to put the-- ch well ?Irill.-'l lean
Princeton ami Harvard, It is not only ] bu1 quite prol s ?le. ? il
is not overburde eld material, but otherwise there i- plenty
rrhich t.. ! trongly. What mai lias- ?l?.iie man can do,
pertkularl] m Shevlin ia that man. He saved the situation in
1910. He, with the he ? H nkej and others, ii quite likelj I
it again. Yale'i gam? Princ toi and Harvara this yeai have not losl
?heir inters I p ???? r. Rathi r hi I ? tensil
Brown Growing in Power.
BKi ?.' \ .. v.! ha ?? ' y but surely growing t>>
. development, caughl the Yale eleven still short
won a well deserved victory, from all ac?
counts, The men from Providence will now go oi to Harvard nexl Sat
? all glory in full confidence. This game arill
i ? ? ? ? ? Yale and Harvard.
I ?gen on Kiglit Road.
PRINCETON m?-'; have to be proud of their eleven and <>f
? "Speedy" Rush has accomplished in building a powerful,
balanced s bed team. Honors were divided
with Harvard on Saturday, although this may be poor solace for d feat,
and Percy ' aughton put a mighty strong te;'.m <n the field Victory is
....,.? ? ichors system. The Tigers are on the right
PENNSYLVANIA made a great stand against Dartmouth, ?
though starting without her captain, and will now aim for Cornell,
which i ??? rough shot* ?ver Michigan. Pittsburgh east Washington
and Jefferson in the lade before a erowd which compare?! in numbers
to the th* !..
?
I!' ONLi ?- could be arranged between Cornell,
Pittsburgh, Colgal . Harvard and Princeton, what thrill.-- would be
enjoyed'
Once More "Summer Baseball.'
Till-, action of the undergraduatei of the "Big Nine" conference col?
leges in the Middle Weal in expressing then,?elves against the
?'summer baseball" rule and in favor of its repeal is in striking
-bntrast to the general gentiment of the undergraduates at the majority
..f the New 1 . -get On my recent rip. The tendency appeared
'?. ?can stroi I : higher rather than lower standards in the ?"ii
duct of intercollegiate ?porte The general approval of Yale'- stand in
disqualifying five prominent athletes and resentment against Trinity's
extreme stand in playing George Brickley were marked, Undergradu
atea, a- g rule, are nol in sympathy with restrictions which limit or cur?
tail ?hat they consider their liberty in vacation tune, but when they
to face and get thinking or discussing the tendency
it upward.
Amateur Question loo Broad.
UNKORT1 NATELY for all wrieerned, the amateur question is to?.
broad. There U ;? disposition to make light of some ease, end over*
emphasi e other . Selfishness, prejudice or indilference are too
.ft.-i behind this case or that. What is lij-ht for one ii wrong for an?
other; wha1 i fail under on< condition i? unfair under anothev; one side
harp upoi hypocri y and deceit and the other on purity of purpose.
I h? r? i- just ?me waj to bring about a general settiement one clear,
? rule oi, eligibility which could l?e framed by the National Col
Vthletic Association and adopted by such colleges a- cared t?.
lake part m intercollegiate contest until ?ach other. Money al?.lie is the
dividing line between the amateur and the professional. There ?'an be no
distinction between th? Twm City League, a feeding ground for college
players in tin summer, and the New England League, simply because the
la'ti-r i?? m organised baseball and the former i not.
\ Question ol Degree
So MANY letters have corns t?? my ?i.--!? asking why th?- George
Bricl roe oi any differenl than a hundred and
I thai it i? impossible t>> answer all. of
com ??..:? I take .-loo a month for playing baseball openly
than it i- for taking $10X1 foi .... ping ? '.<? a chair, or winning a mock
?MM of billiards or pool m playing baseball surreptitiously. It i- quite
g| ; .? d '?' violate the pint as ?1 II to violate the letter of a rule. \
college man prostitutes hi.- athletic ability quite as brazenly b) accepting
the position a- counaelloi at a -1,'niner camp because of his standing in
:p.?rt- as suniy a- th- ont plays m organized baseball.
It is unly a question ".' degree; it is only a question <>f what can be
tolerated and .?? hat ? a : not.
Some Rule* loo Drastic.
THERE are rs itiv? .????;. community, whether
??parta, social, civic not, G stavui T. Kirby, onetime
pieel.? ' sur At! I loi -a radical on t1'?- ques
tion ef amateui standing, and 1 back of the New York
University' actioi CS ? f the gam?? with Trinity. It ?ink.-- me
that the rule on win. h he based bi gry and far
too drastic Th. question, tant a- it is. could better be handled
without the breaking ??!' centrad ? iption of athletic friendships.
and the dang? i ..f unfair discrimination. Rule* are Important, rulei are
-. ? -?try fee the propei ? ... sports; but these rulei should
be framed in a ? . , .. ... working an is- . hard
ship and v. ? I except College sport? can he kept reason*
*bl>' cl,i,! ? -r ?'an !-? an.I i? being t" a large extent eonl
"Simn' aU" ?an be stopped when DttdergraduaU sentira?
t***n properly nsouldcd through edueational measures along these hue?.
The tiass iv ceeaiag, too. M ich bas bese accomplished in the last four
weeks.
Where Brown Dr.iws Line
Jl MING by letters received a number of Brown men feel that the
following words written in U raimase worked an injustice: -Brown
_ '''"' ? '?'""'^ ' ? the undergraduatei
absolute freedom and baaii eligibiltt) for it- athletic fairs purely oi
******* ' ;' .... ma-much a- Brown
_?*" f,r,,,"ili' ,?' ? ?"? bavi played on an) team in organii d
baaabalL No rt ....,.- bajgball" apart from
this, hut Bl? Wl B feel tha* I . ., . , -? JJ '?
correct what D_a* , w.? though, from my
point ef visa ts? ?difference. TI
he aside.), heure van The ,.>?..? ents al Ehrown are as itriel
as at ar.y eollagl in the tuur.try, and the rulas laid dSWn art enforced to
tie letter.
CALLS FOR AID
IN SETTLING THE
AMATEURSTATUS
I. C. A. A. A. A. Would Set
Down Rules for Han?
dling Problem.
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What diatinetioa, if any,
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.?i receiving remunerstio
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? ? .. '"r ?it .'i playground oi
n i', ni tli?' like .
I say, thou
i ompetition ?"i
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?."11 for II: ? ?
? ..i. period of a
iniverait]
when ?!?'in' m pel foi med ???
It" m? orgsi
::. ?r y tpoli '"?. n though .t !..
that auch orga ? of bul
inch ha. foi example,
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permittini on by
. Ahi.uld or
should i."- .? ?ont i'"'. '
othei iporti continue to conaidsi ai
amsteurt thote ?vim have Ihn
peted "? 'ii oi age ? I |
HAHN WINS*COAST
LAWN TENNIS TITLE
[?cats Conqueror of Johnston
After F our Slashing Sets.
San Franc eo, Not ! H Vai i>yV ?
Johns. wh<> defested ?.Villain .1..!,
the i.at ionsl ehsmpion, in thi
? i.a "?" the Psciflc ? osai tennia chsm
hip, which it being p
win hii ? ii ? ? ' ' i ! '. ?? I hi
day by Herbert lian.
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itnpioi
I'nivcr-it '. man. lonf* recoffl :
plsyer.
lira. Hazel Hot? I
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Expo ?
A a irpi,.? to da) '* pli
defest of M.aa M
tional somsn't .lian:; ion, -
. Bmpion. m
the : i -' iound of the nix?
by Helen Bskei snd Roland R? b? ??
LOW AND CORDIER
WIN AT SQUASH
Bull Has a Hard Struggle
u ith Keeler on Courts
of Columbia Club.
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Yale Club,
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When a relict Needs a Friend : B* mX0GS
Travers Off to Winning
Start in Fourball Match
With Hunter as Partner .?'.?? iti
Marslon and Low in a
Lively Contec! on -
sex Club Links.
it flying
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end o
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an.! Low'
tarting with t
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tenth, bal 1 im? ei i'i !"?' ?
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- until the eighteenth
? wsa Travers who
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ed a? if Travera and Hunter
the match wh n
?i: B fine so
thin a fea feel of the ptn
. . i .1 ?ng hunker, v. '. ?
a inur on the long fourth,
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II made oni
approach on the
for hit aide, aftee
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up',! ?vhn.i
d Hunter wsat ?vide ?>f
Thll ?he ??iari?in w.v?
I to two ? for rravera an'1
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s'a thai the home
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SPOTTS TO FORE
IN CLUB SHOOT
Former Champion (Capt?
ures Scratch Trophy?
Berner Also Wins.
g, L. Spott*?, a former national
champion, ?lid the best work in the
areek*end shoet of the Maw York Aih
Club yesterday, ?le took the
lerateh trophy with a total if 93 out
of I possible 100 day pigeon?, lioiir^"
?l. Corbett, chairman at the shooting
eommittee, end w*. H. Yu!<?, who -ii I
l on Saturday, were bis Beeren
com petiters. Both returned cards f
M ImI led.
lue race for the high handicap pr:,7.??
."mied in h tie between ('. W. Herncr
and K. M. Leeatelll. Hoth had in .1?
of 100 target* The shoot-off at '_?'.
target? weal tu the former gunner b
h ?core af -'t i" 23. '?. J. (orbett eras
e Me Bg te the leaders, ?nifhin-j thirl
u it h a car? I ?if '.''.*.
The regular 44eek-en?l program?r?
staiteil yesterday. In addition to th'
-??latch and handicap ?hoots, ther?
?? i i .? prize- ulTeri'?! for each s!rinf? ??!
irgeta. The Ural string wa-< fai
the Haslin Cup? 11 was taken by ? .
.1 Stein with a straight ser- of -5
idiip rocks. Then earns the tourna*
. '?p ihat eaded srith ?i\- ,*'iii .ei ?
tied for the (1rs! leg. They ?rere fl
i:. Williamsoa, Q. H. Martin, <l. ?I
? orbett, I? s MeMahea, C. W. Berner
and i onrsd Stela. All received a leg
. on the cup.
TO T.?Y UNGLI! I
HORSES AT BOWIE
I.? w isohn Strl ig in I '..if ?? o!
Joh i Whala-i for Fall Me ;
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Yearlings from France
To Go Under the Hammer
Royally :lre? Baby Racers
From Mackay Stud To Be
So!d in the Garden
Next Month.
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?ho 1st? Charlea Kehlsr. Sasdndgs,
. int, Gingal and PkaeBix srs Ebbt*
ind Ftench ?tsllion of high srtn 'l
' n- sad ci ? d tab ? d rscord i.
iriminating judgst of bedding
? ? at pronounce their yearling
repraaentative youngaten of quslity,
rid pi .' they will attract the
of American buyers. Ths ea?
st Mr. Macka] U) asll tl ass year
?? ?? - eount i?> i oni of the bsae
Acial rosultl of the war to ths Ameri?
can thoroughbred breeding Industry,
for if I mi war in Rurops a
? msrkst for them ??"'.iM l ?? found
; brosd
Most of the ma:' repW
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?.ilk. Lut teversl ?>f thoss of for?
eign hi?". I. at Isast bava had racing
in thia country. One
?f th? foraign mar? - I - as Issa a
ihsd Btatros than Ballantrae,
brad t.. Meddler at Mr. Mackay't
King ton Stud, in Kentucky, produced
?. ? footsd Mi'iliHMt, ?.?fansr al
? ? i Hay of" the Graal 1
II indicsp of lOOi
Jtswsrds1 <'uj> at Gosdwssd.
??untiro, ths grsatSSl mar?- Ha-it in,:".
Bl tS 'I.?- ran- , w ? nt itt?, th?'
?th a Matrass I ?tas sad ? Ma?
il Handicap t?. ner ?? r<?.lit She ?a.?
from ti,.- royal :? ti?-?l English mar??
Royal Gva. Trigger, ths dam sf Baa*
n ? 11? - ? aad ol i.> i ? i ? wst
? 11 "f Royal Gaa'a daraghtsra.
Flacarlias, ? Aral rat.? raes maro in
lor tints, ??a* a ?laii"ht.-r ?>f 8t Florian
Carline snd the dam "f Mastsr !:<>i>
.n. eonqueror sf Fsii Play 'r? ths B I
i'.irk autumn weight ( >r BgS rac
Kaiiinrii. a Isughtsr ?f Caa
Balakla*. t I bssn s ttsrling
? ' I icei t??r ?>".era ??*> on . a.? havi
also B?UTiks*a*Lifht umi MIm Dia.
Yale Hopes On, Despite
Defeat by Brown Eleven
BROWN LENIENT
WITH ATHLETE!
?Summer Baseball Meet
Approval, Says Col?
lege Paiper.
Trovidence, Nov. 7 T'r.? wide Intel
cut called f'.r'ii by the suspension r
].e (lore at Ya!e, ar.il the dispute BVS
?.?' George Briekley, ? ' l
I rinity eleven, id te
, rliglhi! ity '
perm its summer 1 ? . i
Brown l 'nivtraity nth ?
rhe sent r all Brown ne
ed ii ? ? ? ' ' ??
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"!?;i y Herald"
Browi ? ?
has been brc ight -.? on
result of an o
never be ? ?reed. "'1 ? ?
aid" assert land on th
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ageou i step in s
which other colleges and univ?
are tryi; g '?. n lintalB.
i .... ? -?rd? th?.* th
gradual ither onirersities
are a', present a vain at
'iinn*. to maint ?
ire in f s I ths Bra 11
loin, ;?n.l are ling I I
, step a! their oa n -
In ?.peaking of the summer be
problem, a;-, slamnu? of Hr
day:
"A ulea seem?? to |
?1 :.? Broa n ba its the ?
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mg. further from tl
Broa
baseb imm?
with . Wl
organised ball or la si
? uri.i/.- I prof?
"Up ??? within s few
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the presei ? ?
van!. Yale and other New !
I in 1904 pra '
: baseball el ib wa i d
of ? ?
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new rule, and bi
?pring of 1914, on?.
i -, and one of the m?
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tionalism.
"r I - a matter of Inter? I I it sine
idoption of the [ ;
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? Broa .-i. and
pea avaslon and 1 sit an?
falsehood? which every college mai
hint'.i are being praclised."
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FOOTBALL VICTORY
PLEASES COLUMBIA
Loss of Dal Cochrane. However
Will Weaken Eleven.
??mhia wa? jabl ter lay a
the victory over the Connecticut \.
gie? on Saturday, despite the fact!
It en-' ? an I White ti i
vices of I>al Cochrane, the
on the ?.?iua,i and a brilliai ?
back.
II.' most pleasing feature of
the '" tter d?
nf the forward line.
.- to have discarded, to lome ex?
tent at lee '
. foi th?? line, inst?
for the attach to form and char.
right in and smashed ,-t "... I
the hacks. Amp
given by the fact that the \. .
able 'o make only OBB Aral dOWB b]
straight rushinir tac.ics.
Bealef was badly missed st tackle
for Donaldson, who played the r
for him. was alow and never seei
get into the play until the
lased
< aptain Simonis in hll two game?
with trresit br
h - res are hi ? eoolni ?
h is de!, nsii.' work, ll.- is poor
rj ing the ball, for tl reason 1
?lowly and fail
lags. When Met ilf gel ? regu?
lars in the baekfleld ag
i.e aurpriaiag te ?es Slmondi n
the line.
FISH ROUNDS UP
ALL-STAR ELEVEN
former football Stars to Play
Rutgers at Polo Grounds.
Hamilton Fish, Harvard's former
captain and All-America tackle, was th?.
bui ?-st man OB the s:.!.'! Ine s at 'H*
llarvanl Princeton game on Bal
rounding up former football players
for his all-star eleven, whieh will play
Foster Saaford's big Rutgers ' i
?it? team al the Pol ? Ground? oi B ?
urday afternoon, While the Crimson
undergrad ..ttes were doing thru
?lance after the vic'ory. Fish BOB? I
that he had corralled about
\^]t>, Princeton mul Harvard veterans
fr??m which he expected to pick ?
tha* will beat Ratgera handily.
The players wo ',, have Biet giah
at Bill Bream's jhvaleal eulture farm
at Harrison on-llu?ison yesterday, and
remain there all week for tram
signal practice. Some of !he tin ?
expect? to have in his line-?;;
Charles Briekley, the famous dr?n
kicker; Iloliey Maker, Prine.'oil's e\
captain and brilliant open Bold i i
Tack Harda ek, la it ?? eai 'a A
einl from Harvard; Crawford Bis
former Harvard tackle; Vie _<
Harvard fullback whoa? drop ?ink beat
"i ale, sad ? reral former iale
Including Steve Philbin, halfback \
Howe, quarterback, and John h
nek, who le rate?! with Hiakej
Sherlia as one of the best
e.-i-r repreaeated Yale
TIGERS TAKE REST
AT ATLANTIC CITY
.Members of Squad in Good Con?
dition FollOW.Bg Harvard (iatr.?-.
... r ?.-.
Prii toa. IS u . N?.? " -i
members of the Pi
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for Atlantic City immediately
after the 1
Thev will most
| real od all a I retas
n i?."i. a ;!h the exception ol
Highley and I ?? i irton, who re? n
m Sai
! ? ?it for the nan
?rsi a game sud?
?.. all the ?!" ?
in exc.'ll. el physical
.-' ? red a f? w m-.nor
in [urii - ?'
nill be bach ia the line an i>\ 1 ? ?
? ,.i -r n\ -,. I . .-'it 7>ractiee
\4 || t. held ob Moi on a?
... ., ; the men " th
student body feel ? k.i dis?,
i. eau ia of Hir. iher?
log as deep gloom in I ?inee
feeling of confidence la ths pou i
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Undergraduates FeelNew
Coaching Regime Has
Not Had fair Test.
SCOWL MAY BE OUT
OF PRINCETON GAME
fullback Has Broken Thumb
Work of "Back" Church Wins
Praise of ( -aches.
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???.tied. h??(
over, o .- ? ? ' ?h tel H ??
('hurch n?;..
McGrath, ? In tk? frer
man Hi be ?et'.tre
elijrib!? thla w< ? Hit? w^1'
a num'oer of the eoachoi will work ?It;
the for?.?- irds t ? ' * defeaat.11
is plai re ??.tentita ?
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make test
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Harvard ?????? ? '??rdt* ?'
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