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Kramer Is Sure
Rum Will Flow
For Generation
? g. Won't Be Dry Until the
Element Arrives That Does
jS'ot Know the Appetite,
Enforcement Chief Says
Frowns on Home Brewer
put* Him on a Plane With
Illicit Distiller; Political
Appert on Issue Changing
Prohibition will not entirely stop the
manufacture and sale of Intoxicants
fcr ? generation, John F. Kramer, Fed
,ral Prohibition Commissioner, told an
audience at the West Fifty-seventh
Street Y. M. C. A. yesterday.
Ir.o head of all of Uncle Sam's, liquor
agents vouchsafed that admission in
?>e course of a talk on "What Does
Prohibition Prohibit?" He remarked
that he himself hadn't chosen the topic, ,
Mid veered away from it largely to ex?
plain w!'.y the Kip:, tor nth Amendment .
gr.d the Volstead act were almost in- ;
operative in some sections of the
"I'll tell you wl ? .. | rohil ition will be
in absolute reality in the l'ni tod
States," he said. "It will he a genera
tioa from r.osv, when this generation I
k?.f passed out and another has come
t- i the st tge thai does not know the
ippetil ?- ' e desii < for liquor.
"Yi . cai : ? ;? a drink to-day 1 know,
p ?? the ?tul il iy is kept under
th? bar in a pitel er, ready to be dashed
the ?- a prohibition agent:
comes in. Foi this reason the social
igpect of the -aleo- has pone. The boy
0: seventeen i r eighteen, who used to
rtart drinking, not because he wanted
I dnr.k, but because of the companion
v 11 never start to drink now.
Prohibition a Growth
"A boy won't go up a dark alley to
?t wood alcohol. So, when you come
to look at it. prohibition is prohibiting :
the vital things Hut prohibition is a
growth. Kans is I as had statutory pro- '
libition for thirty-three years, yet fif-j
>-? ' ' ?'-?>' was sold openly I
on ' i it il v nsas.
"We have i: posed of the economic
argument I hibition. We have
pi 1 at I ? " ? does nol need the
le riv( d from the
manufactun ai I sale of. liquor. The
ei ' ? ' ery big hotel in
the land can make money
without 1
"Then ther phase of the ques?
tion thai ' nearly settled?the
"it. This year we old
: ? ure about the I
matter. Four yei - ow t he two .
parties v l ing a race to see i
gel prohibition in
Mr. Kram ng the achieve?
ment in the way
ed the Eight
the "most radical
chai tre evei I ii 11 ??'??..-' ory of
:. d I ? ea rei -
that theri ?. vast d iffe i ei ce be
thc statute
ni i eff ?ct,
loo"? very : r who
icting a la\v to
g bevi . ng
to i . ' ent on. "'
? t thoj a re mo\
:? . ? I'huy mo' in 1
i turn I
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"G ??.??? i take
?:? ?. olve upon |
th? ? m faithfully. It
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' '<] surprised
it tin ri-\ ? titude of
?tati iTiciais now
:?' ' ru: found
fault v.-i ; '? ? ? :
faul: ? - now how
loi ? ? to lini
Ia'r-o i It to bring
tv ? in many
! ? ? ve. mad
biai ? car
Iment is goini
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Nol can evpi" get ii
r'-' ?.:?????; >1 tical
":: ?' kvernor F.dwards?,T
son nee.
nal. Mr.
Kra - ? ? ? \"ew Jersey
the; ? ? ?._ ?t Tuesday
thai ? nd Pennsyl
v*.' ? . ? gent ei
Question of 1 aw Enforcement
.stion of
pi ' has i ver ti e
du f in |a
!-' ' .? Every
'?' foi ce t" the ,
law, and 1 w ? i day are
vit.;.* np it i it-come so dis?
tasted 1 m can con?
tinu' ? .....,, defy
tt( law, ront of the
bar r behi' ? A. from now
'' e breaking
J" law are ? ay: '1 will abide
?J" th? . , American citi
ier ' "
"hen Mi I ncluded his ad
Prf ? the floor asked
j"m whal . ? ? itude was .'
?ward inti led for home .
Co: un pi
"' ? ame i la attitude i
??*ard ai \ .," he answered
if the b eragi ? i tains more than
We-half of 1 per i ei I of alcohol it
?"ases no H ?Teri ? whether it was
K?'r:" by a mow hinei in the South or
B ?>?* br< ?.,. -.;, rth."
Another niai ted the Commis?
sioner t . , ? if whv
]'? is that before prohibition a Saloon
wper could -? il food Leer for five
?nts a glass, Kood whisky l'or la cents,
fen-o free . . , . customers and
r-? a '?'? ? ' ? ' while now. with the
;r,7 ' incl and licei e eliminated, he
J?d to char-. . , . foi near beer and
Jrc1' half a dollar up for whisky .of
doubtful re,
Mr, Kramer begged to be excused, as
? ,ra''. wii due to lea\ ? in fifteen
' $(>5M00 Liquor Seized
In 3 Yonkers Saloons
Wnuilaneous Raids Conducted
'?y Local Police lone Mn
Seventy Barrel* of Whisky
??Venty barrels of whisky were
HUed by tin Yonkers police in three
*'^s made earl;, yesterJay morning
?Oder the direction of Captain Hugh
"? Brady i.r 1 1 .-?tenant 1>. A. Cooper,
o. th? Detective Bureau.
j11-* liquor ia valued at $65,000. The
F -*3 raided were fclcisto Pact's sa
L??n it 95 School Street; Giovanni De
?*Uo's saloon at 30 New Main Street
f?d the cafe 0f Michael Kodak at 4t
pint?n Street. The raids were made
Ittv'nty ^arrp*s of liquor were seized
g?? Pacl saloon and thirty barrels of
?h tv&r'!? lWl barrels of gin were found
?ourM ***etto's- Fails of a still were
V"d at Faci's saloon. At each saloon
gPolice g?i.ipfi entrance by smashing
*?K*' ,Sever*- bourc, were required to
tors, t WM'?,l?y t0 police headquar
The police were armed with
Warrants, but no arrest? were
Dry Agents Inlerrtipt
Tiger-Harvard Dinners
Ihrer Roston Hotel Munnger*
and Waiter Arrested in Raids;
Student*' Liquor Seized
Special Dt.'pafcfc ro 7>i" Tribune
BOSTON', Nov. 7. William J. Mc?
Carthy, Federal prohibition enforce?
ment officer, struck his heaviest blow
against liquor when he led raids
against Boston downtown hotels in the
midst of dinners in celebration of the
Harvard and Princeton football game.
Three managers and a waiter were ar?
rested. The hotel men arrested were
L. C. Prior, manager of the Lenox and
Brunswick hotels; Ernest. B. Sprack
lin, assistant manager of the Copley
Square Hotel, and J. J. Delawre'nce, as?
sistant manager of the Hotel Crofton.
They were released in $500 bail,
At the Lenox the officers took in cus?
tody John J, Kelleher, head waiter
known as "Highball John." Kelleher
is probably one of the most widely
known hotel waiters in the East. He
was charged with aiding and abetting j
in the sale of liquor. McHale Regan ]
was also arrested, charged with the
illegal sale of liquor. According to the j
officers Rorjan procured the liquor and '
Kelleher disposed of it in the hotel.
At the Brunswick the officers seized
three quarts of liquor from a group of
Princeton students. The students were
not held.
Two men were arrested after they
had sold three quarts of liquor to Fed
eral agents in front of the Brewster.
The hotel managers were charged j
with violation of Cue prohibition act in
that they alPowed the possession and
use of iiquor in their dining rooms.
Cabaret Singer
Killed as Auto
Runs Into Pole
Another Woman and Police- !
man Driving Machine Seri?
ously Hurt; 15 Injured j
in Four Other Collisions i
Mrs. Rosanna Yroner, a cabaret j
singer, of 147 West 147th Street, was j
killed, and Sophie Fay, twenty-eight
years old, of l\l East 110th Street, and ?
Patrolman George Schmaltz, of East ?
Rutherford, N. J., were seriously hurt
when the automobile in which they were
riding crashed early yesterday morn?
ing Into an iron telegraph, pole on the
Paterson Plank Road, near Humboldt
Street, Secaucus.
Mrs. Vroner and Miss Fay attended a
dance in East Rutherford Saturday :
night. They started home in the auto-?
mobile belonging to Patrolman I
Schmaltz. As he approached Humboldt j
Street he was blinded by the glare of a ?
trolley car headlight and lost control
o? the car. It ?truck the telegraph;
role, hurling ail occupants out.
Mrs. V roner was killed instantly. Her
I . band, the police say, died in asimi?
lar accident aoout a year ago. Miss
Pi suffi ': a fractured skull and Pa
? . ? ?. . iva s dr vin g the
;.'?; ' ? . ti ved internal injuries.
Other Occupants Bruised
- - ? :?. t -.vi nty-four years
Id,.i 11 : ? reel. East Ruther- |
ford, and l'hon p :- -, 1 v. en y- ne,
of 22-1 Paterson Avenue, East R?ther- j
ford, wl v. in the machine, es
ca] ' a few bruises. Tin y were
later he ; i material witnes ses by '
er Drake, of West N'ew York.
; Vroncr i said to be the sistai
.:'.-; '? . -, a New York lawj t
: . ? men v\ ere injured ist nigl
il I p in v ch they were
st ;? .--.. b a - nrface car at
? . and Southern Boulevard,.
the F r n : ". ; ?- car v... in cha rge of
,11 - ii Wal ter Li r.
Those njurrd were Mo - < ni. of 39 j
K ivi riving the car; i
. twenty-three years
? ' < ? . ! oulevard, the
Pronx; n v"< hino, fifty years
old, o : 33V) -\t thur Avi nue, the Bronze;
N'ichola Coppuci, tweni nine years
mi s, and Lawr i c< Rich,
. | i Kins Street.
Traffic Tangle on Bridge
Two '? "? re enl to hospitals and
four autoi ib to garage; for re?
pairs last night as a result ol a traffic
? ngli oi ? i Queen boro bridge,
An n ? ?:?- bib ' ruck i wne 1 by
Chai ! Schatzel, of 202 H iron Street,
ed as it was passing the Vernun
Avenue tower on the Queens a de of
t - ,. i : idge. 1- ??' ruck a machine driven
by Edward Fi ill of 2 IOS V\'i v>-'"r Ave
? ';;,.. ? : e Rn : -.. F< ih's car swung
around and crashed into 'a taxicab
ven by Morris Hogan, of 50 Horatio
: ? ,.-. A car driven bv Edward Mc
Elroy, <?:' 152 West Sixty-third Street,
happened along and got caught be?
tween Fein's car and the taxicab.
Several other cars which had ap
:?? . c icd the jam were stopped just in
time. Schatzel and Hart. O'Donohue,
forty-six year-; old, of 6 Horatio
Street, were sent to Reception Hos?
pital, suffering from bruises and
laci rat ions.
Eight persons were injured las:
night as a result of two automobile
skidding into an elevate-! structure
pillar at Willis Avenue and 145th
Street, the Bronx. The accidents oc
curtid within a half hour of each
other. The first car to strike the pil
lar was driven by Frank Feld, forty
five years old, of 1461 Bergen Street,
Brooklyn, and the second machine by
Paul Guidenselot, forty-four years, old,
of 1831 Grand Concourse, the Bronx.
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The A llerton Idea
Allerton House, a rest
dence for business and
professional men, is the
fulfillment of a new idea
in city housing.
1'hc sociability ?oui privacy of
a ciub, ihr convenience? of a
hotel, the pleasant quiet of ,i
home, these are provided at
a f rar hon of the < ost of ?r
commodationa at a first class
hotel, because essentials have
been substituted for useless
The Allerton idea of service
is expressed in the pervasive
atmosphere of comfort to be
lound equally in its lounge?,
roof garden, sun. parlor, gym?
nasium and music room.
Allerton House ?9 a resi?
dence men are proud to
speak of as their home.
?lli?. newest i ' the Allerton Group, at 56th
Street ?nd Madison Avenue, di'slicnetl by
Is Harmon, will bi i-.'ady fur
occupa?! ;, I ie< ember 15.
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lexans Acclaim
Mexican Action
'Cantlnuetf frwm put? an?)
to emphasize the faith. "Such expres?
sions will follow in due time, I prom?
ise you," he ?aid then.
In that acceptance speech Senator
Warding said: "1 believe there is an
easy and open path to righteous re?
lationship with Mexico. It has seemed
to me that our undeveloped, uncertain
and infirm policy has made us culpable
to the governmental misfortunes in
that land. Our relations ought to be
both friendly and sympathetic. We
would like to acclaim a stable gov?
ernment there and offer a neighborly
hand in pointing the way to greater
"It will be simple to have a plain
and neighborly understanding, merely
an understanding, about respecting our
borders, about protecting the lives and
possessions of American citizens law?
fully within the Mexican dominion.
There must be that understanding, else
there can be no recognition, and then
the understanding must be faithfully
Cotton Invites Tariff Speech
All day the Harding special ran
through a cotton-growing section in
sight of cotton fields and baled cotton
awaiting shipment. The white folk
in the throngs that massed about his
car at every stop were largely cotton
growers and the grinning colored folk
were cotton pickers. %S0 it was only
natural that such an ardent believer
in the economic soundness of the pro?
tective tariff as Senator Harding
should have been fairly bursting to tel!
these Democratic admirers what bene?
fits to expect from a high tariff on
cotton. But it was Sunday and so the
talks he made were more like sermons.
For example, at Marshall, Tex., at
10:30 this morning several thousand
persons were clustered on the railroad
right of way. The President-elect had
planned to shake hands with the people
there, but when he saw the crowd he
realized that this was impossible. He
decided to speak, saying:
"1 am sure there can be no harm, no
offense to the proprieties, if I say to
you this beautiful Sabbath morning
that we are very happy to have you
call and we are very happy to tie able
to call on you for even a moment. Mrs.
Harding and I have been especially i
partial to Texas for a number of years,
and when I say that this morning, yoa '
know I am not indulging in mere words
to he agreeable.
"There is nothing 1 have to ask of
you except I want your assistance in
the responsibility 1 am going to as?
sume. You know ours is a popular
government, my countrymten, and some?
how I think the verdict of last Tues?
day indicates that the American peo?
ple mean to keep it a popular gov?
ernment, and while we went to the
polls partisans last Tuesday, after the
polls were closed wo are just all fel?
low Americans with common interest.
Of course I was the spokesman for a
party, hut T would not stand for my
party if it did not consecrate itself to
tiie service of the American people. 1
have been saying one thing -a great
many times recently and I want to say
i? 'o you.
"i think Chat out of the r-acrifiees and
sorrows and the infinite cost of our!
part in the World War there came one
thing that is of an immeasurable com?
pel sation to America. It wiped out the
lr.s! vestige of sectionalism in the
I nited States. T want an America
v - re there is no North, no South, no
East, no West. I want America to be
one people, with one thought, one ideal,
one confidence, one flap; and that the
Stars and Stripes of the United States.
Seeks a Helpful America
"1 do not know but I could preach
thi morning. Let me tell you, my
countrymen, you know of the ideals
that Christianity gave us and the story
of Galilee and its helpfulness to others,
and you and I want an America that
shall be helpful to the less fortunate
people o;* the world. I would no! want
our country aloof from the other peo?
ples of th--' earth, but I want America
stro g, fortunate and whollj free to
play her part in dealing with the rest
o? the world. 1 do not, want a mort?
gaged America.
"No, ! do not mean to find fault with
?: i ? who "nave followed a different
idea!. 1 think the purpose was high.
Oui of the turmoil <>( the World War
came many propositions, and we want
peace and we want international fel
lowshi p.
"We want world conjuration, but
Air.', rica lias never failed humanity
since this Republic began and America
never will, and we do ro't have to be
bound by contract to play our part as
an agent of humanity and we are not
going to be now. Our moral obliga?
tions will always Rtand out, and
America does not need any meeting of
foreign powers to tell us what our
moral obligations are. We want to
meet with them, counsel with them,
know their thoughts and give them
ours, but we want to give them in the
freedom of America."
Leaving Marshall, Senator and Mrs.
Harding were easily persuaded by Ci?L.
Stone, general passenger traffic man?
ager of the Missouri Pacific Railroad,
to climb aboard the engine for a ride.
Mr. Stone'R private car was attached
to the special train last night at St.
For twenty miles the Senator drove
the engine. He started the engine, too,
opening the throttle with such expert
care that the truin started without a
At Longview Junction there are hut
few houses, but there was an enormous
crowd just the same, and automobiles
parked in a ?jense mass beside the right
of way answered the question how if
not where they came from. There was
a delighted cheer when the Senator de?
scended from the cab of the engine.
Mrs. Harding, rather than descend the
perpendicular steps of the engine, was
helped over the coal tender into the
haggage car. Even there she' was con?
fronted with a difficult descent, but
made it bravely, finishing with the dec?
laration :
"I guess I was a sight that time."
Senator Harding snid:
"I hardly know what emotion to re?
spond to, it is a heartening thing and
a very gratifying thing, to have so
many of you make manifest, your
friendly interest.
Preaeker'a Advice Recalled
"I remember once some years Bgo 1
was starting for the West "and had in
contemplation a number of speakinj.
engagements on a Cliautauqua progran:
and 1 found I was to speak on the Sab?
bath as well as week days. Being n
Baptist myself. I thought, I would take
a minister's advice, so I went to Mrs
Harding's Methodist, minister and 1
asked him to tell me something fittinf
to say on a Sunday. He told me any?
thing fit to say on week days ought
to be all right to say on a Sabbath
day. And he was right."
The Senntor also made a brief tall
at Jacksonville, Tex.
The President-elect declared force
fully to-day that office seekers am
politics are taboo on this trip. He i
going to fish, golf, sleep and eat to thi
exclusion of nearly everything els
while he is in Texas. He is not goinj
to hunt, however, even though th
quail, ducks and even deer are plenti
ful. The President-elect has neve
found any pleasure in that form o
One thing is certain?he is going t
eat. At every stop some forjn of Tex?
delicacy was put aboard the Hardin;
car, until it resembled a combinatio:
florist and grocery store, with fruit an
flowers and even sugar cane litterin
the observation compartment.
The Harding special is due to arriv
in Brownsville at 11:30 to-morrow
morning. The party will complete th
thirty-mile journey to Point Isabel, o
the Gulf, by automobile.
Point Isabel All Ready
For Harding"* Receptioi
BROWNSVILLE, Tex., Nov. 7.?A'
preparations at Point Isabel for a resi
ful stay there for President-elect. Hai
ding and party, who will arrive her
Monday, have been completed, accon
ing to R. B. Creager, one <>f the host
fin his return to-night from the coas
Present indications are that, warm an
clear weather will attend at least th
first few days of Harding's visit on th
An advance guard of S'ecret Servie
operatives has gone over the ground bi
tween here and the Point and four
conditions satisfactory for the Pr?s
dent-elect's sojourn.
Mrs. Harding Congratulate}
ISew W oman in Congres
Ml'SKOGEE, Okla., Nov. 7.- -Mi
Alice Robertson, Congresswoman-ele
from th.> 2d Oklahoma Congression
District, la'st night received the folloi
?ng telegram from Mrs. Warren
".My sincerest congratulations (
your magnificent victory. My be
wishes for your success. 1 knew
might pin my faith to the noble worn?
of Oklahoma to do their part alongsh
the good and true mi ii o:' that splend
state. We thank you for ail you pe
Bonally contributed to the success
the campaign, and look forward
meeting you i ri Washington, Mr. Ha
ding joins me in cordial regards."
Central Americans Convene
7.?Municipal representatives of t
Central American republic- favoral
to a union of Central America cc
veni d Friday at Antigua. Minister
Foreign Relations Aguirre and Urn
Secretary of Foreign Affairs Pii
greeted the delegate.:. Consid?rai
enthusiasm was evinced.
McAdoo Offers
Hopeful Hints
To Democrats
Party Not Dead, He Asserts,
Not Even Wounded Seri?
ously,! but Must Build
Up Better Organization
Republican Task Heavy
Failure to Fulfill Its Cam?
paign Promises Cannot
Be Excused, He Insists
Asserting that the Democratic party
"is far from dead," William G. McAdoo,
in a statement he issued yesterday,
called upon the Republicans to fulfill
their promises made in the campaign.
"It is of no value to try to explain
the causes of the Democratic defeat,"
Bays the statement. "The overwhelm?
ing Republican victory has given that
party the Presidency and both houses
of tin Congress. After March 4 ne>:t it
will have entire responsibility for the
policies and administration of the gov?
ernment, and cannot evade nor excuse
its failure to perform the promises it
has made to the country. Under our
political system it is always better to
have one party control at Washington
than to have divided authority.
"What tho country imperatively
needs now is subsidence of the pas?
sions and hatreds engendered by the
war and the partisan political appeals
that have followed. The country is
sick of political slanders and contro?
versies. It wants domestic as well a?
international peace and it wants resto?
ration of that fine spirit of cooperation
which made America invincible in war.
We face domestic and international
problems of great gravity. The only
way to solve them is through coopera?
"The highest duty of the leaders ol
both parties is therefore to promote
better feeling among all classes of oui
people, to refrain from unworthy ap?
peals to class and racial prejudices
and to bring to bear upon our serioui
problems that dispassionate and in
telligent consideration through whlcl
alone there is promise of genuine pub
lie service.
"Tho Democratic party has suffere<
a severe but not a disastrous defeat
It is far from dead?it is not evei
perlously wounded. Throughout ou:
history overwhelming political reverse:
have been followed by extraordin?r;
political recoveries. So long as thi
Democratic party is true to its mis
r-ior. of service to the common peoph
it will live. What we must do now i
to build up and strengthen *he part;
organization, not in the interest of an;
individual or group or faction, but fo
the cause of democracy itself, anci
fbove all, for service of country. 1
will not be difficult, through prope
"leadership and organization, to rein
:pire party enthusiasm, to restor
party unity, to maintain party ideal
and principles and to regain popula
confidence. To this task Democrat!
leaders must now devote themselve
with unselfish patriotism and courage.
Three Georgia Republicans
To Contest Congres? Election
ATLANTA, Nov. 7. Three Repub!
caris who lost to Democrats in. Georgi
Congressional races will take the:
fights before Congress on charges c
irregularities, according to notice
made public here to-day. There wei
only five Congressional districts i
Georgia in which Democrats had oj
position and the three in which coi
tests are promised are the 1st, 5th an
9th districts. Georgia has not se:
a Republican to Congress since n
construction days.
Governor-Elect Miller Won't
Talk PoliiicH at Scashor
ATLANTIC CITY, Nov. 7.?Govemo
elect Nathan L. Miller and Mrs. Mille
of New York, who are guests at. t!
Seaview Golf Club, eight miles f,ro
Atlantic City, took a ^troil on ti
Boardwalk to-day.
Judge Miller declared that he hi
come to Seaview to rest and deolin*
to discuss politics. He and Mrs. Mill
will remain at the golf club two week
Coolidge Too Busy as .
Governor for Vacation
LeaTes Boston in Wool Suit,
Overcoat and Other Garments
Presented to Him
ftpecial Dispatch to The Tribune
BOSTON. Nov. 7.?Governor Coolidge
slipped ?way from the city yesterday
to an unnamed destination to spend
two days resting with his family. When j
he left the city he had dressed himself I
m the various articles of clothing;
which have been presented to him re?
cently, including the wool suit that)
came from the three western counties
of Berkshire, Franklin and Hampshire,
the overcoat given him at the Great;
Harrington Fair and the shoos some \
one gave him at the Brockton Fair.
The Governor hasn't taken a vac*- i
tion, because he says he can't afford
the time. When his attention was
called to the fact that Senator Har?
ding had started for Texas for a two
weeks' outing, the Governor replied:
"Senator Harding isn't Governor of,
The Governor will be back at the
State HouRe to-morrow.
Women See Defeat of
League Based on Force
In an open letter sent yesterday by !
Mrs. Olive Stott Gabriel, acting chair?
man of the American Women Opposed
to the League of Nations, and Shaemaa
O Sheet, editor of The Anti-League Bul?
letin, to William Howard Taft, George
W. Wickersham, Dr. Nicholas Murray
Butler and The Tribune, the assertion
is made that Senator Harding's face is
now turne/l forward with Johnson,
Borah, Knot, McCormick and Brande
gce, and that he will enter no league
based on force.
The letter pre-licts failure of the pro
league element, saying:
"They will fail because Senator
Harding knows that, the people are in
earnest, and would turn out the Re?
publican party as quickly as they did
the Democrats if they are again be?
trayed. When Mr. Wickersham says.
'Now we can face facts, not, theories,'
Senator Harding will smile at the idea
that there could be any fact comparable
with a popular plurality of 9,000,000
votes and the capture of every North?
ern state and three strong-holds of the
solid South. Senator Harding's face is
turned forward with Johnson, Borah,
Knox, McCormick, Brandegee and
Moses, and he. will enter no league
based on force or no association for
arbitration involving vital interests or
national honor."
Genuine Ohio Dirt Farmer
Boomed for Harding Cabinet
SprrUil Dispatch to The Tribun'
COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov. 7?A boom
has been started in Ohio by his friends
for the appointment of Gcorpe M. Wil?
bur, Union County, "dirt" farmer, to
be Secretary of Agriculture under
President Harding. Wilbur was an
original Harding man and a delegate
to the Republican National Conven?
tion, He is supported by Senator-elect
Frank B. Willis.
Wilbur's only governmental experi?
ence has been two terms in the Ohio
Legislature. The boom started when
Wilbur spoke to the wool committee of
the Federated Farm Bureaus. ?,
Socialists Charge ?
They Were Counted
Out in E 1 e c t i on
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President Is Hissed and
Soviet Republic Cheered
at Mass Meeting Called
to Register Grievances
A mass meeting of Socialists of the ?
8th Assembly District was held yes- i
terday in Stuyvesant Hall, 142 Second
Avenue, at which it was charged that
the defeat of Louis Waldman, ousted
Socialist Assemblyman from that dis- :
trict, was due to fraud. The defeat of
August Claessens in the 17th Assembly
District, Manhattan, and Samuel A. De
Witt, :id Bronx, also was laid to fraud.
According to Socialist speakers and
watchers, they were "counted out."
The fact that all three received good
majorities in the special election was
evidence that the., were not fairly de?
feated so soon after, declared Assem?
blyman Charles Solomon, of Brooklyn,
the only one of the three Socialists ex?
pelled a second time to be reelecte.d.
The following practices were charged
to fusion sympathizers in the 8th Dis?
trict: Thumbing Socialist ballots in i
uric polling place, so that they would be
voided in the count; eraser marks on I
thirty ballots in another polling place, !
evidence of unfair count in several
places, harrying of watchers and vio
ence to one watcher.
I: was announced that the city
and state Socialist organizations had
pledged themselves to prosecute "vio?
lators of the tunctity of the ballot." A
collection was taken up to help defray
expenses. Legal assistance would be
secured free, it was said.
About 1,500 persons crowded into the
hall and .'?0O more were refused ad?
mittance. The speakers were Meyer
London, who was re?lected to Congre- i
by the Socialists; Charles Solomon, re
elected Assemblyman; Assemblyman
Abraham Beckerman, Justice Jacob
1 Panken, who was defeated in the 8th
I District, his wife, and Harry Donen
I fehl, chairman of the meeting.
It was announced that the meeting
! had a threefold purpose. Besides b< -
ing a protest against the "Socialists
| hc-mg counted out," it was for the
I purpose o!" celebrating "the fourth
1 year of Soviet Russia" and to condemn
? the statement President Wilson is al
: leged to have made that he would con
j tinue to refuse Debs a pardon because
it would be a bad example in the event
of another war.
The President was hi^ed and Soviet
, Russia was cheered. Three cheers were
given for Debs when it was announced
' that yesterday was his sixty-fifth birth
? day.
Meyer London declared about 1,700
votes for him were "stolen" by the
opposition. He asserted that volunteer
gangsters aided his opponents purely
, for sport, because they enjoyed crook?
ed work.
Alderman Beckerman declared the
election crooks in the 8th Assembly
i District were pikers compared to those
I in Harlem.
Waldman, who was defeated by only
j 100 votes, was too ill to attend the
; meeting. He was broken down in
health, it was said, and had gone to
the country.
Debs Says He Spurns
Pardon From Wilson
Asks That His (lase Be Consid?
ered Last of All Imprisoned
Under War Laws
ATLANTA, Nov. 7. Kugene V. Deb?.
whom, it became known in Washington
yesterday, the President has no inten?
tion of pardoning, wants his case to
come last of all persons imprisoned
for violation of war-time laws, or be'
ter not at all under the present Ad?
ministration, according to a statement
from the Socialist leader given ont to?
day through his attorney. The state?
ment follows :
"I understand that each political
prisoner will be considered separately.
and I hope my case will come last of
all. 1 really would rather that it .
not at all under the present Admin?
istration, because I would be ?shame 1
to be at large under the chaotic con?
ditions of society."
Debs, who is serving a ten-year ?en?
t?rico at the Atlanta pen.tentiary for
violation of the espionage law. cele?
brated his sixty-fifth birthday Friday.
His attorney and other friends called,
and he received flowers and presents.
Austria Seeks Political Peace
VIENN'A, Nov. 7. Herr Schober, th?
president of police, has undertaken to
form a Cabinet designed to be a "busi
t ess ministry." It is believed in politi?
cal quarters that the various parties
will agree to end partisan strife so as
to enable the new Cabinet to devot?
itself to an attempt to solve economic
and ft nancial prob
In 1817 the people of the
United States consumed
about eight pounds of sugar
per capita; in 1917, about
ninety pounds.
This enormous increase in the
consumption of sugar was due
in large measure to the con?
stantly growing demand for
To meet this demand, the
CHILDS restaurants have on
sale an assortment of high
grade chocolate candies.
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la a duaC proof ka?-- I Oc.
Broadway g^KS ^C?OI?I|?^Hl| at 34th St.
oA Most Exceptional
Sale of 1500 Pairs of
Taken from our %egular Stock
Heretofore sold for 12.00
a 7.85
NARROW and medium toe models, with
double or single soles, some with rawhide
inserts. Good substantial leathers in black and
tan. All sizes and widths. One style pictured.
Fifth Floor
seldom compare with those now offered by
Saks & Company
IN producing these suits to sell at forty-two dollars
we have achieved something quite unusual. In
most moderate priced suits you get either style
or workmanship ? in these suits you get both!
Our designers have shown splendid judgment in
creating the models, and the needlework shows
to marked advantage the skill of men trained to
make clothing of the most dependable kind.
They are by far the finest suits made to sell
at forty-two dollars-?we invite their com?
parison with anything shown in New
York, whether "special", ''sale" or "regular".
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