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Vol. LXXX? No. 27,:><>7
(Cep-fH-tflt, 1921,
New York Tribun? Ine.)
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First to Last ? the Truth: News ? Editorials?Advertisements
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THE WEATHER
Rain to-da> ; to-morrow clearing and
much colder; increasing south winds.
I nil Report ou l.nit race
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 11)21
:;t :js * ?
two crvrs
In Greater New York
THKKK CFNT8
Within 300 Mil??
Fora cRi*_a
Kla
U. S. to Refuse J ap??ese Plea for More Battleships;
Britain Stops Construction of Four Giant Cruisers
Leo Is Goaded'
Out of Streetl
Job by Hylan I
Commissioner Resigns ;
Demands Retraction of j
Statements or Prosecu-i
tion Based Upon Them !
Hirshfield Inquiry
Method Denounced
Meyer Committee Predic?
tion Efficient Official
Would Quit Is Fulfilled
Mayor Hylan lost another one of his
commissioners yesterday. John P. Leo,
Commissioner of Street Cleaning, re
iifflied in a huff, resenting interference
with departmental affairs by the Mayor
ind the latter's Commissioner of Ac?
count?, David Hirshfield. The Mayor
lost a Police Commissioner under sim
il?r circumstances during the first'
thirty-day period of his administration,
and now Commissioner Leo's going
?irks practically a similar period at
ihe closing of the first Hylan adminis?
tration.
While denials that politics had any?
thing to do with tha Leo resignation
were issued by Mayor Hylan and Mr.
Hirshfield, the culmination of the
Street Cleaning Commissioner's
troubles in his quitting the city serv?
ice created no surprise in political
?rcles in view of the Commissioner's
coton just prior to the recent election
in suspending Michael Laura, Deputy
: trei-t Cleaning Commissioner, on
?barges. Mr. Laura was the Demo
?r-'tic nominee for Sheriff of Kings
County, and was one of the very few
. mmany candidates defeated in the
?c nt city and county elections.
Leo's Efficiency Recognized
Commissioner Leo was-recognized as
.***. efficient executive and a firm discip?
linarian. He took over the Street
.leaning Department last January
when the work had so deteriorated and
become so demoralized as to be a pub
?: scandal. He had encountered diffi?
culties before because of his insistence
anon discipline as a means of higher
efficiency in the work of the depart?
ment, and becau?e of hi3 further in?
sistence that he should run his own de?
partment.
The present climax was reached
when Commissioner of Accounts Hirsh
r?eid attempted to investigate certain
rurcHases of equipment by Commis
siomer Leo and demanded the books
and records of the department. Com?
missioner Leo flatly refused the
Hirshfield examiners access to tne
record? without first being informed of j
ihe nature of the investigation. Com?
missioner Hirshfield complained to the
Mayor. The Mayor sided with the |
Commissioner of Accounts and directed
the Street Cleaning Commissioner to
allow Commissioner Hirshfield "to in?
stigate any and every bureau in the
department."
"No Commissioner has the right to
demand of the Commissioner of Ac?
counts," said the Mayor, "the reason
lor hi9*investigation or what informa?
tion ho is seeking."
Commissioner Leo's resignation fol?
lowed yesterday upon the receipt of
the Mayor's order. In h?3 letter to
Mayor Hylan the Commissioner de?
clared that his resignation was the re-1
suit of certain defamatory statements j
ta'the Mayor made about him, Leo, j
which if true ought to result in the |
criminal prosecution of the Street]
Cleaning Commissioner and which, if
not true, he would take steps to have
prosecuted bv the District Attorney as
criminal libel.
Commissioner Demands Justice
Commissioner Leo announced his in- j
ttntion to advise the District Attorney
to secure his indictment for official
??conduct, or an indictment for crim?
inal libel against his traducers.
In his letter to the Mayor he said
further that when he became Commis?
sioner he found the department in?
competently managed by the office dep
i |J'y as acting Commissioner, and that
?Jie Brooklyn office was as badly man
*l*d. Referring to the Brooklyn Dep?
uty-? Laura?the Commissioner de?
wed that "an exhibition of moral
turpitude" by him compelled his prac?
tical removal. The department, he
??id, ivas not in a creditable condition.
Many irregularities in the depart?
ment existed, he said, and he had
?und that one firm had a practical
monopoly in furnishing scows to the
Apartment, having fifty-four scows,
i Continued on ptfe %lx)
Peking Faces Uprising
As Bank Run Continues !
British Agent Refuses to Freej
Trust Fund; Collapse of
Government Forecast
pEKIKG, Nov. 18 (By The Associated j
p??i).?-The heavy run on all the I
C?'B?se banks continued to-day. All ?
?Horts by the officials and the foreign ?
??nts failed to induce Sir Francis A. j
Jfien, inspector general of the Im- i
v?ftir Maritime Customs, to release the ?
?.000,000 taels trust fund to save the
?of**0.11-. He argues that the diplo
7"?c body must provide guaranties
I? Vefnnd of this money if it is re
"****> and that this is impossible.
tf* -"eneral mutiny of the unpaid!
?fl^Pa around the metropolis is feared. \
*? situation among them has been ag
fc?j d bv the release of salt tax
"^ to pay the police. ?
puerai Wu Pei-fu. the strongest
?int *8t connected with the govern
Si'? now eighty miles from the
JJ^?l, but offers to guarantee all for
1?" obligations in the event of a col
?ftm tlle Sr?vernment. In some
??(?"ws her? a eollapso is expected
k
Foch Returns for Three-Day
Visit and Gets 13th Degree
Marshal Scorns to Grow Weary and Fills Numerous
Engagements ; Greets Thousands of School Chil?
dren, Dines at Sherrys and Goes to City College
Foch the soldier and leader of
armies yesterday gave way to Foch
the teacher and friend of children. It
was as the great general of the World
War that New York received hini with
military and civic honors three weeks
ago. Yesterday he stood in New York
University, a gentle and pacific figure
in academic gown and cap, suggesting
only the days before the war, when it
was his business to teach. Ail hour
earlier 5,000 children gave him a rap?
turous welcome in the 7th Regiment
Armory while 2,000 more lined the
streets to cheer, and Foch ?smiled with
a benignity, a mirthfulness that none
of the previous ceremonies evoked.
A brief glimpse of the city had not
been enough for the generalissimo.
"It is a great and wonderful city
I am happy to be with you again
Three hours last time was nol
enough," he said as he started out or
three days of sightseeing and forma
ceremonies. On the first of these h<
received visitors all morning, went
to a luncheon given in his honor a
Sherry's hy the Union Interalli?e, o:
which he is president; attended a pag
i cant given by school children in his
i honor in the 7th Regiment Armory,
placed wreaths on the statue" of Joan
of Arc and in Grant's Tomb, received
the degree of LL. D, from New York
University and finished up at the an?
nual dinner of the American Iron and
Steel Institute, held in the Commo?
dore Hotel.
Marshal Foch arrived from Wash?
ington at 6:10 a. m. It was after 9
before ho left his private car and
was driven to the home of De Lancey
Kountze, 122 East Seventy-eighth
Street, who is his host during his
stay in town. Soon afterward he re?
ceived newspaper men and posed for
photographers. Adept as Mr. Balfour
at dodging questions, he was genial to
all but refused to voice an opinion on
politics in general and the disarma?
ment conference in particular.
Marshal Foch showed signs of fatigue,
although he scorned to admit it. His
stalwart figure was as straight as a
ramrod, his movements as precise as
if he were directing affairs at army
headquarters. But strained lines around
his tired eyes, which were lit by an
occasional twinkle, betrayed the weari?
ness occasioned by three weeks of in?
cessant acclaim and ceremony. Re?
porteis were warned not to shake
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26,000 Packing
Employees Fix
Own Wage Cut
Workers in Other Big Five
Plants Expected to Take
Same Action as Armour
Governing Committee
Books Opened to Council
When Reductions Are Ap?
plied to Others 125,000
Will Be Directly Affected
CHICAGO, Nov. 18 (By The Asso-1
ciated Press).?Employees of Armour
& Co., 26,000 in all, through their:
plant governing committee, agreed to?
day with officials of the packing house
that a wage reduction was necessary
and fixed its amount. The cut is ef?
fective November 28. This is the first
time in the history of the industry
that a wage reduction has been arrived
at in such a manner.
Officials of Swift & Co. announced
that the representatives of the Chicago
assembly of the company's employees
had voted that a readjustment of wages
was necessary, had extended a vote of
confidence in the management and had
voted to leave the wage readjustment
to the discretion of the management.
Reductions for various classes of
employees of the Chicago assembly
practically corresponding to those fixed
by the employees of Armour & Co. and
effective on the same date, November
28. were then announced by company
officials, who said they expected the
other sixteen assemblies of employees
to take similar action.
Officials of Wilson & Co. announced
that representatives of the Chicago
plant assembly at a meeting with
company officials had agreed to a cut
in wages. The amount of the cut- will
not be fixed until ?o-morrow. Officials
said they had been advised that the
Kansas City plant had agreed to a
?wage cut practically identical with
that announced to-day fo? Armour
employees.
Employees of the Cudahy Packing
Company, who are holding plant con?
ferences, are expected to accept simi?
lar reductions, and Morris & Co. have
announced that they will follow the
example of the others. All of the big
five, except Morris & Co., last spring
inaugurated the "plant congress" sys?
tem of employees' participation in the
management of the industry.
Advices from Omaha said that *he
five thousand members of the Omaha
chapter of the Amalgamated Meat Cut?
ters and Butcher Workmen of North
America would not accept the wage re?
duction agreement made in Chicago
between representatives of Armour &
Co. and the "plant committee," ac?
cording to a statement by J. W. Burns,
secretary of District Council No. 5
of the Meat Cutters and Butcher
Workmen.
The agreement between Armour &
1 Co. and its employees followed a two
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Passion Play Scorns Films
Promoters Refuse 70,000,000
Marks to Screen Production
I OBERAMMERGAU; Bavaria, Nov. 81.
?The Passion Play Committee, which
recently has been bombarded by pro?
posals from American motion picture
concerns for the privilege of filming the
production in 1922, when the play next
will be performed, is standing firm in
its refusal "to play Judas to our tradi?
tion, despite our poverty," as it puts it.
The committee, it is said, has refused
i offers running as high as 70,000,000
' marks, representing a huge fortune to
j the vallagers. Their production of the
play every ten years is in fulfilment of
a vow made back in the seventeenth
century thus to express the gratitude of
the village for having been spared from
a plague. The play, last produced in
1910, was not given 1920, the regular
date, because of the mortality amonk
the performers and musicians caused by
the war.
? ....
When yon (hink of Writing,
think of Whiting. ?Advu
Anti-Beer Bill
Passes Senate;
Vote Is 56 to 22
Wadsworth Denounces 'Sav?
age Rigidity' of Measure;
Goes to Harding Now and
Will Stop Medicinal Brew
Nullifies Treasury Rules
Enforcement Will Kill Pro?
hibition and Lead to Ter?
ror Reign, Says Senator
From The Tribnme's Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON, Nov. 18.?The long
struggle over the anti-beer bill in the
Senate ended to-day with the passage
of that measuro by a vote of 56 to 22.
The question before the Senate was
adoption of tho conference report,
which had already passed the House.
The bill now goes to President Harding
for signature, and when it is signed
and enacted the beer regulations re?
cently issued by the Treasury Depart?
ment will be nullified. The bill stops
the use of beer and malt liquors for
medicinal purposes.
Twelve Republicans and ten Demo?
crats voted against tho bill. The Re?
publicans were Senators Brandegee,
du Pont, Edge, Johnson, La Follette,
Lodge, McLean, Penrose, Phipp.?, Short
ridge, Wadsworth and Weiler. Demo?
crats opposing it were Senators Brous
sard, Gerry, King, Pomerenc, Ransdell,
Shields, Stanley, Underwood, Walsh, of
Massachusetts, and Watson, of Georgia.
Thirty-three Republicans and twenty
three Democrats voted for the bill.
Attacked by Wadsworth
Under the agreement reached Rome
days ago, there was an hour's debate
beginning at It o'clock, and at noon
the vote was taken. The chief feature
of the debate was a speech by Senator
Wadsworth, attacking the measure. He
predicted that the "savage rigidity" of
the bill, along with the severity of
other legislation and enforcement meth?
ods, would break down prohibition.
Senator Wadsworth described to the
Senate as an illustration of the meth?
ods of prohibition enfoi-cement officers
the case of the shooting of William
E. Weisheit, a farmer living at Glen
mont, near Albany, early last Septem?
ber. He was shot by Frank Gallow, a
prohibition enforcement officer. Weis?
heit had gone to Albany with produce
of his farm, accompanied by his son.
As the two were going home on their
motor truck in the darkness of evening
they were ordered to halt by three pro?
hibition officers, who were without uni?
forms or badges. Thinking the three
were highwaymen, Weisheit and his
son drove on rapidly, whereupon Weis?
heit was shot and wounded by Gallow.
Calls It an Atrocity
Senator Wadsworth called this affair
an "atrocity" and said the officers had
no information whatever that Weisheit
and his son were bootleggers; He said
the officers suspected bootleggers wero
using the road along which Weisheit
traveled, and that was their excuse for
trying to stop him in the darkness. All
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New York Has Hottest
Nov. 18 in Its History
Meteorological Feet Slip and
City Gets 70 Degrees, In?
stead of a Normal 44
All New York City temperature rec?
ords for November 18 were broken yes?
terday. At .11 o'clock in the morning
instruments at the Weather Bureau
registered 70 degrees, which was 5 de?
grees higher than on November 18.
1918, when the highest previous record
for the date was established.
The normal temperature for this
date, according to the Weather Bureau
records, is 44 degrees. The warmest
November day noted in the archives
was the first day of the month in 1882,
when the 74 mark was reached.
Fil Sink Plant
To End War,
Schwab Says
Declaration at Dinner for
Marshal Brings 2,000
- to Feet Cheering; Gary
Makes Similar Vow
Foch Given Ovation
As He Enters Room
U. S. Sleel Head Goes
Further Than Hughes
in Plea for Peace
Charles M. Schwab brought two thou?
sand diners to their feet cheering wild?
ly when he said last night at the Amer?
ican Iron and Steel Institute dinner
to Marshal Foch in the Hotel Commo?
dore:
"I would willingly sink the Bethle?
hem Steel Company to the bottom of
the Atlantic if by doing so I could
bring: peace to the world."
Earlier in the day at a meeting of
' the instituto Judge Elbert H. Gai-y
aroused almost equal applause when he
declared the greatest business pros?
perity and happiness in the history of
the world were about to be experienced,
and that the highest wish of the steel
and munition manufacturers of this
country was to bring peace and good
will on earth.
A tumultous ovation was accorded
Marshal Foch by the steel industry
leaders at the dinner. He was cheered
for fully three minutes, when he arose
to speak, after he had been presented
with a solid gold punch bowl inscribed,
"From the American Steel Industry,"
and after the singing of the "Marseil?
laise" and the "Star Spangled Banner,"
with calcium lights played upon Amer?
ican and French flags waving to the
breezes of concealed electric fans.
After referring to the "unity of
spirit, sentiment and ideals" which he
said pervaded the United States and
backed the men under his coinirif-nd
during the World War, Marshal Foch,
who spoke in French, gave praise to
the steel industry of this country.
Foch Praises Steel Men
"It was due to the tremendous in?
crease in war materials that you gave
us that we were able to lay out our
plans and carry them forward to suc?
cess," he said. "At no time did you
fail us. Permit me to salute this pow?
erful industry in the most profound
gratitude."
Judge Gary, who presided, was the
first speaker. He began his address by
reviewing his part in commanding "the
largest organized army ever assem?
bled," and in paying tribute to him in
the highest terms.
"But Marshal Foch," lie continued,
was and is even a bigger man in peace
than in war. This is because he abhors
the latter and loves the former. Fine,
loyal soldiers are the first to enter war
in defense of principle and country;
they would be the last voluntarily to
kill or fight for anything less.
"It is to be hoped that the dis?
tinguished soldiers from the different
nations of the world, who are sup?
posed to be in Washington at the
present time in an advisory capacity
on questions pertaining to limitation
\ of armament, will have a potential
; voice, and I believe they will. Those
who suppose the army men generally
will advocate unnecessary war or stand
for unreasonably large armies or in?
struments of warfare will, I think, find
they are mistaken.
"God grant that the conference at
Washington will finally bring about
conditions which will establish and
maintain continuously and permanent?
ly peace between all nations, and that
the guest of honor here this evening
may have the pleasure of exerting a
strong influence in this direction.
"We know what our guest desires,
for he has recently said, "War is the
most abominable thing on earth."
Mr. Schwab's speech was, in part, as
follows:
"I am at the head of the largest war
materials manufacturing works in the
world. The shipyards of my company
build more naval ships than are built
in ony other yards under one manage?
ment in the United States. But I have
been thrilled beyond expression, as has
every good American, by the brilliant
and statesmanlike scheme laid before
the conference at Washington by Sec?
retary Hughes. The carrying out of
that plan may involve great monetary
loss in some quarters, but such a thing
as financial loss can be of no consider
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Naval Work
Suspended by
Admiraltv
?'
Firms With Contracts
for "Super-Hoods" Get
Word to Halt Activities
Until Further Notice
Estimate Saving
At $128.000,000
Closing of Shipyards Is
Directed and 30,000
May Be Left Jobless
From The Tribune's European Bureau
Copyright, 1921, New York Tribune Inc.
LONDON, Nov. 18.?It was Great
Britain's turn to-day to Bpring the sur?
prise in the disarmament discussion,
and she did so by suspending all con?
struction work on the four new super
Hood battle cruisers which had been
ordered built. An order issued by the
Admiralty last night and made public
to-day instructed firms engaged on con?
tracts for these warships to incur no
further liabilities in construction until
further notice, thus making the total
abandonment of these ships contingent
on the adoption of plans for naval re?
duction.
None of the keels of these four ves?
sels has been laid, and if it is definite?
ly decided not to proceed with their
construction virtually all of the $128,
000,000 estimated cost will be saved.
Although the Admiralty's decision
was warmly welcomed by naval ex?
perts and was even hailed in some
quarters as meaning the doom of the
capital ship idea in sea programs,
warnings already have come from the
Clyde and Tyne districts, wliere the
ships were to have been constructed,
that unemployment will be increased.
May Eliminate Capital Ships
Sir Percy Scott, who has led the cam?
paign against capital ships, was espe?
cially jubilant to-day, saying: "This is
a red-letter day for the taxpayer. He
need not fear that work will ever be
resumed on the four ships. If they
had been built they would have been
no good, as one bomb would sink any
of them."
Vice-Admiral G. A. Ballard, former
Admiralty director of operations, also
said that the abandonment of the su?
per-Hoods might mean a decisive step
toward the elimination of capital ships,
while Admiral Mark Kerr said: "This
decision is the logical outcome of what
is occurring in Washington."
W. L. Hichens, chairman of Cammell,
Laird & Co., which shared largely in
the contracts for the armament of the
projected ships, also approved the Ad?
miralty order, saying, "I think it is
the natural thing to do. It is not wise
to spend money on armament when the
outlook is favorable to disarmament."
The decision to build these ships was
announced in Parliament last August,
but it was not until October 26 that
the announcement was made of the
awarding of the contracts to three
firms on the Clyde and one on the
Tyne.
Ship Plants Ordered Closed
The Buardsmorc company, which was
scheduled to build the hull of one of
tile ships, already has issued orders to
close down the works, which were re?
opened this week after a long period
of idleness, and other plants will fol?
low suit.
Factories at Sheffield and Barlow
would have received important subsid?
iary orders, while the heavy guns would
have been made by the Vickers, Arm?
strong and Woolwich arsenals.
It is estimated that 30,000 men
altogether would have been employed
for three years on all details on coi.
struction.
Although the afternoon papers do not
comment editorially, their general atti?
tude in presenting the Admiralty an?
nouncement is that Great Britain has
given an unmistakable pledge of sin?
cerity as regards naval reduction and
that the next question arising is
whether the United States and Japan
will follow suit.
Action Justified, Says Bcllairs
LONDON, Nov. 18. (By The Asso?
ciated Press).?Commander Carlyon
Bellairs, who for a time was lecturer
at the Royal Naval College, thinks the
order suspending battleship construc?
tion is perfectly justified. "Every
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Rail Labor Board to Announce
New Shop Rules Before Dec. 1
CHICAGO, Nov. 18 (By The Asso?
ciated Press).?The United States Rail?
road Labor Board announced to-night
that new working rules for the six
shop crafts probably will be completed
and issued in time to become effective
December 1.
Issuance of the rules, under a re?
cent decision of the board, paves the
way for consideration of requests
which may be filed by the roads for
revision of the shop craft wage sched?
ules.
The new shop craft rules will affect !
approximately 500,000 men on all j
Class 1 railroads in the country. Only j
i ninety-four railroads are directly con?
cerned in the present case, but board
members anticipate that all the Class 1
railroads probably will carry out the
decision without further hearings.
The Labor Board's work on the rule*
was interrupted by the threatened rail?
road strike, which was averted October
27. A few days previously the board
had announced that no further wage
reductions for any class of employees
would be considered by the board until
working rules and agreements in dis?
pute for that class of employees had
been passed on.
The board, it was indicated to-night,
will next take up for consideration the
rules and working conditions for the
maintenance of way employees. A
large number of disputed questions re?
garding these rules already are before
the board.
Steps for revision of the national
agreements befoi-e the Labor Board
were taken April 16, 1920, after the
railroads and their employees had fin?
ished preliminary negotiations, both as
to wages and rules and working con?
ditions, without reaching any agree
mtal
I-:-:-,-,
Congress Worth Get Naval Holiday
Plan Unless Pact Involves Treaty
WASHINGTON, Nov. 18 (By The Associated Press).?Congress
would not be called upon to act on any armament reduction program
worked out by the Washington conference unless, in the view of the
Administration, the agreement reached is put in the form of a
treaty.
The warships to be scrapped, Administration officials declared,
could be disposed of without Congressional action under the authority
the navy now has of declaring a vessel no longer useful and directing
its disposal.
So far as questions of the Far East are concerned, it was indicated
clearly that the Administration believed an international "understand?
ing" of policy would result rather than a formal treaty.
The officials holding these views expressed entire readiness to lay
before Congress any agreement in which either the Senate or House
should feel they had a right to be consulted, but declared that, so far as
the present outlook was concerned, they could see no occasion to raise
a constitutional question.
Some of these considerations are understood to have been discussed
at to-day's Cabinet meeting, the first to be attended by Secretary
Hughes since the armament conference began.
?Nippon Blocks
Open Door for
Part of China
Refuses to Give Up Mongolia
and Manchuria, Although
She Accepts U. S. Policy
in Balance of Republic
Own Interests Supreme
Willing to Abandon British
Treaty for New Alliance,
if America Is Member
By Thomas Steep
WASHINGTON, Nov. 18.?Japan'B in?
sular position as an island empire, her
increasing population, her expanding
trade and the progressive spirit of her
government, which underlie her pres?
ence on the Asiatic mainland, make it
impossible for her to accept in its
totality China's demand for complete
autonomy.
Prince Tokugawa, president of the
Japanese House of Peers, made this
clear to-night in discussing the ten
principles which China asks to be used
at the conference as a basis for the set?
tlement of Far Eastern questions. He
said his country would support the
policy of the open door, but he added
she would not consent to any change
as to her present position in China
that would be "disadvantageous" to
Japan.
Official Washington has waited anx?
iously for Japan't- reply to China's de?
mands. The answer is that Japan,
while recognizing the American policy
of the open door for the remainder of
China, will insist in holding on to
Mongolia and Manchuria tenaciously
and that her rights there, must be con?
firmed as a precedent for the settle?
ment of all other Chinese questions.
"What is Japan's attitude toward
China's demands?" was almost the first
question put to Prince Tokugawa after
he had consented to be interviewed.
Considered in Friendly Spirit
"That is an important question," he
said. "We are considering the subject
very carefully and in the most friendly
spirit for China."
"Will Japan support the open door at
the conference?"
"We entirely agree with the policy
of the open door in China. Our people
at home are most desirous to do all
they can for the benefit of China."
"Does that mean that the open door
will be applied to Japan's interest in
China?"
"I am sure we do not wish to do
things that are disadvantageous to our
country. I think I may say that China
and Japan, as well as Japan and Amer?
ica, desire to be friends."
Prince Tokugawa interrupted him?
self to explain that the Japanese word
for "disadvantageous" might also be
interpreted to mean "detrimental."
"Will you say whether Japan Ls will?
ing to surrender Shantung?"
"I say that now? Certainly not now."
"There have been published in this -
country reports from Tokio newspapers
that Japan will ask the United States
to destroy her fortifications in her
Pacific islands, such as Hawaii, Guam
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Ford Puts Plan to Buy
Warships Before Harding
All-or-i\one Clause in Offer to
Take Over Craft Scrapped
by Arms Conference
From The Tribune's Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON, Nov. 18. -Henry Ford
talked to the President to-day for ten
minutes concerning a plan to buy the
battleships which the Conference on
Armament Limitation plans to junk.
Mr. Ford made it clear that his offer
applies to all ships or none.
The Detroit automobile manufacturer
called at the White House originally to
pay his respect.- to the President. The
i'menities observed, so enthusiastic was
he concerning his plan to make junk
of American battleships that he out?
lined it to the President.
Just how far Mr. Ford went in
sketching details of his plan was not
revealed.
On leaving the President he made his
i exit from the White House through a
j aide door. The President, later, dis
j missed Mr. Ford's visit with a sentence
! to the correspondents, to the effect that
I Mr. Ford discussed plans for junking
I battleship?.
French Differ j
With British |
On Submarines
Brian?! Asserts Undersea <
Craft Is Weapon of Weak; j
Sees Conference Results j
Achieved Within Week I
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Will Make Plea Monday;
Japan's Effort to Retain |
Two Post-Jutland Ships j
Stirs Experts' Interest !
By Boyden Sparkes
WASHINGTON, Nov. 18.?The Brit?
ish and French delegations are not in
accord on the question of submarines. '
After a British spokesman had said '
to-day that his countrymen would ro~ j
gard the Washington conference as j
barren of results if undersea fleets
replaced the scrapped capital ships i
Aristide Briand, Premier of France, in '
an interview said:
"English desires on submarines can?
not and do not represent the wishes \
and necessities of other nations. The ?
submarine is the weapon of the weak."
But the French and British naval
experts arc in accord on one point. ?
They see in Japan's insistence that ?
she be permitted to "maintain a pro- j
portion in general tonnage slightly ;
greater than 60 per cent" an effort !
to save from the scrap heap the
Mutsu, to be commissioned in Decem?
ber.
Japan Has Two Post-Jutland Ships
The Mutsu is a sister ship or the i
Nagato, commissioned a year ago, and
the pride of all Nippon seafaring men.
These are post-Jutland ships, and if
Japan by any chance is permitted to
retain both she would have two as
against one, the Maryland, in the
United States navy. This vessel, the
first American post-Jutland ship, about;
equals the Nagato in fighting power. ''
but it is two knots less speedy than its 1
Japanese, rival.
The British and French naval view j
as reflected here is that capital ??hips
of the post-Jutland type have rendered !
all predecessors obsolet", and that
there could be but. one end to a duel ;
that might be fought far ou1- on the ]
Pacific between a post-Jutland and ;i \
pre-Jutland .ship. This fact alone was
sufficient to convince many of the :
naval technical men now here that
America could not. and would not heed
Admiral Kato's contention for in?
creased tonnage. If Japan's reduced
navy should have two post-Jutland
ships, then America would have to have
two, if tho principle of "existing
strength" is to hold. But however sharp
the cleavages between some of the
delegations over disarmament and mat- |
ters in the Far East. M. Briand boldly
stated this afternoon, that before he ?
sails for France within a week the
general result of the conference will
have been achieved.
"Details may take weeks." said M.
Briand, "but the general resuit will bt
such that I sha!! carry jcood news to
France. U will be of great benetit to
the whole world. We shall have an I
entente cordiale of the Paciiic. Not an j
alliance- I do not wish to be misunder- '
stood?but an agreement equally effec?
tive.
Must Abandon Selfish Plans
"Before there is an agreement each
power will have to abandon sel
plans, but here no nation is actuated
by imperialistic thought. I cannot re
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Joss Calls 300 Chinese
Dead Here Back to Orient
| President of Republic Asks Re?
turn of Bodies for Re-Burial
in Tombs of Fatbers
The Department of Health received
j yesterday a request from President
Hsu Shih Ch'ang, of China, for per
| mission to "Uisinter the bodies of 300
or more Chinese, buried in the Chinese
section of Cypress Hills Cemetery,
Queens, so that they may be reburied
in China and their spirits consort with
those of their ancestors. The request,
will be granted.
It is the belief of the Chinese that
so long as their bodies are buried in
I foreign soil their spirits haven't a
j chance of reaching the celestial realms
of their fathers.
Besides the necessary shipping la
! bel3 in English, each coffin will be in
I scribed in Chinese with its occupant's
' name and the direction "To the liere
aft?r."
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Firm Against
Giving Japan
Larger Fleet
Will Not Alter Ratios
for Navies Contained in
Proposal ; Answer to
Tokio Is Most Emphatic
Nippon Opposed to
Chinese Autonomy
France to Demand Under?
sea Craft; Ratification
by All Nations Planned
By Carter Field
WASHINGTON, Nov. 18.?The
only way to stop the armament race
is to stop, and the only yardstick
which can be used in measuring com?
parative strengths is the present
ratio. This is the American answer
to Japan's plea to be allowed a
larger number of battleships than is
allotted under the American plan.
This principle was laid down with
very great emphasis by the Ameri?
can delegation to-day, though ?scru?
pulous care was taken to phrase the
opinion most diplomatically. Indeed,
the spokesman for the Administra?
tion rather resented a question which
referred to the policy as a "take-it
or-leave-it" proposition.
Japan Opposes Chinese Plan
This was the great big develop?
ment of the conference to-day, al?
though the day's news contained
many other highly significant points.
For example, Prince Tokugawa,
of the Japanese delegation, frankly
admitted that his government did
not intend to do anything with re?
gard to China which Tokio would re?
gard as disadvantageous or detri?
mental to Japan's interests. Japan
could not agree to the complete au- A
tonomy of China, he said. He also S
refused to discuss the open door in ^
connection with Manchuria, and
Mongolia. In view of the fact that
the whole point about the integrity
of China centers around the question
of whether Manchuria and Mongolia
should be included, this aroused con?
siderable interest.
The hint was given at the White
House that the settlement of the Pacific
and Far Eastern questions might
be a matter of agreement, rather than
a i reaty which would have to be sub?
mitted to the Senate It was explained
that, of course, any reduction of tb
nav> would have to be passed on by
both houses of Congress anyway when.
the appropriation bills came up. The
President by executive- order, how.
ever, can scrap the old ships without
asking permission of Congres?-.
General Ratification Planned
Ratification of any agreement ai to
the limitation of armament which may
be -'-ached i.t the present conference
may be requested of the other nation"?
which are not attending the confer-.
ence. it was announced in a very high
Administration quarter. This would
have two purposes.
One would be to prevent any possibT?
violations of the spirit of the agre#?
ment among Ehe conference power?.
For example, one of the nations which
made I he agreement might have some
other nation, perhan,-- some country in
SojUi America, build several powerful
battleships, with the understanding
that they might be seized or purchased
should on emergency affecting the con?
ference nation arise.
The other purpose would be to bring
the other countries of the world into
a form of agreement on armament
limitation which would gradually grow
uo into a sort of practical association
i f nations. It was nointed out to?
night, that this would be the second
step?-the calling of the conference
being the first toward the ideals ex?
pressed by President Harding in his
campaign speeches last year.
France for Submarines
Another development of the day was
| that the French do not agree with the
! British desire to have greater reduc
; tions in the amount of submarine ton
! nage to bo permitted than outlined in
the A-nerican plan. The French regard
j the submarine a.-- the weapon of dc
! fense by the weak naval powers.
Henry Ford, tuiking with President
i Harding to-day. said that he would be
j delighted to buy all of the war
| shins wh;ch might be scrapped under
the American plan and to employ them,
or their materials in some useful way.
The next formal meeting of the con
? ference--disregarding the meetings of
the committee on Pacific and Far East?
ern questions, which really consists of
all the delegates to the conference^-?
will be held on Monday, it was an?
nounced to-day. At this meeting
Premier Briand of France will make
the address on land armaments which
he promised ut the last public meeting.
American Position Important
The ?statement of the American posi?
tion with regard to changing the ratio*
fixed by the American plan is regarded
as the most important development
since the British, and Japanei? ?C

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