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Says Wards Are Backing Weeghman Six Day Bicycle Race Starts A. A. U, Accepts New Records
Sn.vs Vwli'rol Park in Brooklyn
Mny House International
f League Clul).
Charles Wceshmnn's negotiation tor
the purchaso of the ChlcnKo Cubs have a
far Kre.itcr bearing on prospective base
tail pence In 1915 than cither sldo has
admitted. The transfer of Chailcs 1',
Taft'a National Lcaguo stock to the Windy
City rcstnur.vtcur Is expected to remove
the opposition of tho Ward brothers of
Ilrooklyn. - yell a, that '
popular revolutionary leader. The Wards,
kccordltiB to tho statements of n promt
nent major league clul. owner who has
been In touch with August "wrmniin.
nre likely to furnish Weeghman with the
capital necessary to swing tho transaction.
In return certain concessions w 11 be
gramcd which will make the Washington
I'ark Plant In llrookln nvallnble for or
canned baseball operations.
Hy backing Weeghman the "d
brothers will of course be directly In
terested In major leaKue ball as repre
sented by tho Cubs. In organized base
ball they may have further Interest as
promoters of Class AA ball at Washing
ton Tark. The International League has
not given up hope of transferring tho
Jcrscv Cltv franchise to Hrooklyn. This
will be done If William Pevery can be
prevailed upon to set a reasonable, price
on the Skccters. It Is hinted that livery
lust now Is tho thorn In the side of forth
the American and International leagues.
He owns the Jersey City club and controls
42 per cent, of tho New York American
league Club stock. In his dual capacity
as major and minor lcaguo promoter he
Is said to have blocked several Important
moVes toward the elimination of the out
laws. Tho powers of the game, however,
are hopeful that his estimate of the value
of his holding In the two leagues may
shrink sulliclently to produce a purchaser.
Charles It. Kbbets, owner of the Hrook
lyn Nationals, has Just returned from the
big minor lenguo rally at Omaha. On
his way homo tho Squire of Flatbush spent
& day In Chicago, where he familiarized
himself with the latest nnules of Wccgh
roan's negotiations for tho Cubs
"I have every reason to believe that
Mr. Wecghmnn will succeed In acquiring
Mr. Taft's stock." ?nld he.
"August Herrmann, while acting only
In the capacity of an Individual, has been
authorized by Charles P. Taft to negotiate
tho sale. I understand that a price has
hcen agreed upon by the contracting
parties. There Is every likelihood that
n transfer of Interest will bo mado nt a
conference which has been arranged for
Cincinnati December I.
"Charles Wceghman Is acceptable to
the National League club owners and to
(those of tho American League as well. It
Is true that neither Gov. Tener nor Itan
Johnson has taken any part In the ne
gotiations and that Herrmann Is acting
only In the capacity of a business repre
sentative. Hut It Is equally true that If
Weeghman were objcctlonablo to organ
ized baseball no proposition of his would
bo entertained.
"By the sale of the Cubs to Weeghman.
who Is very popular In his home city,
the Nntlonnl League could remedy a weak
ness that has been felt for several years
tho unpopularity of ownership of tho
Chicago club. I believe this remedy is
certain of success."
Mr. Ebbeta declares that the National
League has not sought Wecidiman as a
possible means of retrenchment.
"The Federal League has made every
overture," said the Hrooklyn solon. "Pres
ident James A. Gllmore's assertions that
neither Weeghman nor any of his col
leagues will ileal with organized baseball
unless the Independents are accepted as
i major league are too absurd to call for
discussion. C.lltnore Is talking for a good
Job. He has been elected to the presi
dency for a term of five yeats at $15,000
a. year.
"I do not believe tho major leagues enro
rap how the rank and tile of the Fed
eral League behaves," he continued. "It
Is enough for them that tho minor leacues
have decided unanimously to stick with
the big organization.
"The siiggehtlon of the American
League to limit club rosters to twenty
men will no doubt meet with favor In our
circuit. It would counteract the present
tendencies toward bankruptcy from ex
travagant salaries and furnish regular
employment for players who now adorn
the benches."
Ebbets will devote his Immediate future
to the discovery of tho culprit who started
the rumor that his Hrooklyn National
League club was for sale.
"I would not take i 1,000,000 for my
Interest In the club." said Charles, "and
I wouldn't consent to n sale for J3.000.000
If I owned the entire stgek. I valuo the
real estate, plant, franchise, players and
equipment at $2,000.000 ; the good will
and future at more than $1,000,000 addi
tional. I have apnt all my life In or
ganized baseball and hope to die In har
nesj. There Is no other business with
which I am familiar. Tho Hrooklyn club
la not for sale"
littnn Schedule ArrnnKrd for Mnronn
Tlnskrtbnll Team,
Manager James A. McIOown has an
nounced the Fordham basketball schedule
for the coming season. Only five of the
seventeen games, will be contested on 'the
Maroon court. Games with the Navy at
Annapolis and Yalo In New York are
pending, while a two day Southern trip,
In which the three crack Washington quin
tets will be played. Is tho Maroon feature.
All the Maroon quintet of last year,
winch defeated tho Army, remain, with the
exception of ("apt. Harrcpt. Besides these
veterans Dunn, Itegan. May and Kelleher
are available, to say nothing of at least
a dozen stars from numerous prep
schools. Practice started last week. The
December 2, Feton Hall st South Orange:
I, West Point st West Point; 9, 1'rlnceton nt
Prlnreton. K, Company r, Second Regiment,
at Elizabeth N J ; U, Oeorgetnwn at Ford
hmi :i, Vale (pending) nt Fordham, Jan.
ur t. Columbia at Columbia; 8, Hrooklyn
Colleee at Ilrooklyn; s, Navy (pending) at
Annapolis; 13, Peton llnll at Fordham i IS.
Ilrooklyn Poly at Hrooklyn. February t,
Oyorgetown at Washington, , a ndr t at
tVaahlngton; s, Catholic University at Wash-Ini-ton,
U. Manhattan at New York: IS.
Catholic University ut Fordham: to, Oa.
Uudet at Fordham.
Only One Trophy Karnpe Him.
Pout Washington, Nov. 1C. Tracey II.
Lewis led the Manhasset Hay Yacht Chili
trap shooters to-day. He won the 10 and
1" bird serale-h shouts and n leg on the
monthly cup In addition to a trophy match
a twenty-five, targets. Hussell llnwhnd
won a leg for the yearly cup, with a full
oo re of SR.
Ketttier fleered Onmr Pnt Orer.
At Columbia Oval the sorrer i levrns or
nerfnn,leY., ' al1'' Hawthorne
United nf Patersnn met j.st rda In a
fltate Football Association After llflv
Ave minutes of strenuous ,,). , ,.,,
tell "rorc','M" tln and will have
M rapuye4 next Sunday,
Modern View Is That It
Pin From Point
Shot Is to
ir joii.v . ANHinno.v.
"Hero blindness has no virtue" might
well be the inscription on many a tee
box In the United States, for If there Is
n bad feature of tho average golf holo
that stands out It Is this very quality
of blindness, and by "blind" I mean a
holo on which tho pin
is not visible on the
shot to the green.
Now It might be
well to discover If
there is a basis for
belief in blind holes.
If they have a pe
culiar virtue, If they
nre really not as bad
ns they are painted.
For many years, In
fact up to a short
tlmo ngo, little wns
heard from tho dev
otees of golf about
the goodness or tho
badness of holes. The
golfers were well
content with any
thing In tho shape
of a hole which linn
JOHN O. AXDEIISOX. distance, a putting
green and a hole In the ground. There
was even a certain kind of thrill which
canto to n person after making a shot
over n hill or a long brassle over n cross
bunker which hid the pin, for added to
curiosity was the thought of the success
In overcoming the extra burden Imposed
by tho blind stroke. There was a greater
feeling of exultation by far in clambering
up n hill and then seeing the ball reposing
on the green a few feet or Inches away
from tho pin than In seeing It go there
nil the way.
Then came the day of the golf architect,
who really was the representative of the
opinion of the day that cross bunkers and '
blind holes were not the proper moans to
the end. It was too big a Job to tackle
loth of these evils, so called, at once, so
they started In discarding tho cross bunk
ers, and )n a few cases by so doing
spoiled good holes. Hut In the long run
their work told mightily and the pleased
golfers began to talk about other phases
which might be Improved. The architects,
none In particular, for at one stage to be
on the green committee was to be such,
were more or less stumped liocause at all
throe courses where golf had been played
for many e.irs the holes could not be
turned round, and the topography of the
land would not admit of Its undergoing
extensive changes unless at an expense
which generally and rightfully was con
sidered too great.
For a number of years, therefore, say
from. 1903 until 1910, the matter was per
mitted to rest and wo were content when
now holes which were constructed did not
have these unpleasant features. Rut all
the time the palpable Injustice of the
thing was taking deeper root, and de
spite the facts given about the foreign
courses how at Sandwich' there wer
many blind shots, that at St. Andrews
theso weto not unknown, that at Hoy lake
chance ruled at times tho sum of it all
was that the golfers, convinced that the
blind hole, especially when presented
many times, was detrimental to the best
execution of the ehnt called for, demanded
Its removal
The insistence on this doctrine has been
more exact slnco the high class architects,
Charles II. M.ic.lon.ild. II. S. Colt. Donald
Hoss and a fi w others, havo given us
examples of courses where the blind hole
does not llnd prominence. 1 think It Is a
fairly well established fact that where
you have a short hole, say from 125 to
133 yields or even longer, if the tee Is
on an elevation It Is better to have
the bottom of the pin In sight from the
tee. Hut I venture to state that almost
half of the short holes In the land are not
fuhlonetl after this manner. When we
get one, however, we find cxtremo pleas
ure In playing It, and we count all such
as being exceptionally good tests. For
example, 1 need but mention the eleventh
holo at Kkwnnok, the tenth hole at
Hrookllne, the thirteenth hole at l"un
woodle, the fifth at Fox Hills, the sixth
nt Wykngyl, tho sixth nt the National
links, tho eighteenth at Garden City, all
gems, and several others which are well
known. In contradistinction,, to these
might be given numerous holes which are
good but which are not popular. Take
tho third hole at Haltusrol, for example.
Tt Is a fine test of golf, but only after
you know the course.
I have long been a believer In the
theory that the test of a hole should be
tho first impression which It gives to the
newcomer. This is usually the test which
applies to the course, and the links Is
mado up of the sum of Its parts. So that
if we have a blind hole which to the
learned player Is first class, but to the
stranger is full of lurking dangers, there
Is something wrong with the hole. This
Is rot radical by any mentis , It Is the
thought In the minds of most nf tin; the
standard which was set up through past
false ideas cannot be changed In a mo
ment or a year. Vhere are too many
physical limitations.
Now It may be argued that It may be
Heels tlrnnlilyn IllvnU In First
Tlimnd by 10 to r. Score.
With teams, sixteen players, Including
most of the experts In the Metropolis, the
Manhattan and Hrooklyn Chess clubs, con
tested the first round of their series of
homo and home matches at the rooms of
the Manhattan Chess Club Saturday
night. Play lasted until nearly 2 o'clock
yesterday morning, when with one gnmn
unfinished the score stood In favor of the
Manhattan Chess Club by ten games to
five. The unfinished game stands slightly
In favor of nrooklyn.
The two club champions, A. Kupchlk
and It. T. Black clashed at the first table
and the former achieved a notable victory.
Kduard I.arkcr, the Gorman master and
champion of the City of London Chess
Cltib, nude his debut for the Manhattan
Chess Club and drew a carefully und not
uneventful game ngalnst C, 8, Howell,
former State champion. The summary:
ltda Manhattnn C, C Ilrooklyn C. C.
1-A Kupchlk 1 ft. T. Black 0
:-Kd I.aker i C S. Howell 4
!V-H M Philips,... W V K Perkins 4
4 A F Krejinbonr. 4 II Helma 4
f (i .1 Ilethnff ... - J 11 White
n Northrtip... 4 Dr (1 F Adair... 4
71. 11 Meyer 1 A Shrneder 0
-M Smith 1 F V. Hllell 0
V -I. Itnaeu 1 IS, V 0
10-1 Jlosenthnl t A C Ca 0
II V J lteiipteln..l A S .lamrftAn 0
U-" 14 ArmMronr. .0 H V Mover, Jr. I
1.1 -A II IIihUi's ,o II Zirn ... 1
14-O Kwlller ... 4 M Schrnerter 4
IT. -I I. 4'Urli 1 I' A Korley n
K, F 1 Henron 4 I. J Wolff 4
Total Total r.
The Manhattan Played white on inn mid
numbered boards The Ilelhoff-Whlte name wilt
be played of! rturlnr this week The return
iimteh at the Ilrnnklyn Chesn Club la scheduled
for lecember IV
Spniiue Snres Kill Herman.
New Osi.kans, I.a., Nov. IS. Kid Iter
man was saved from a knockout here thlf
afternoon at the hands of Frnnlile Hums
when the seconds of the former threw up
the sponge early In the twelrth round.
Hums hud nil Hie lieiter of the fray and
would stii'dy hao dropped Herman had
It not been for the action of llcnnan'i
Should Be Possible to See
at Which Approach
Be Played.
manifestly unfair to Judge of a eouree'a
valuo from one visit. Hut I would re
mind you that It takes only one visit to
Myopia, to the Detroit Country' Club, to
the Nntlonal golf links, to Garden City
or to Kkwnnok to provo the quality of the
course, and so far as tho courses have
got away from blindness so much tho
greater has been, tho praise bestowed
upon them.
There aro good holes on which the pin
cannot be seen from the tee, as In the
case of splendid dogleg holes, but tho
thought In mind Is that alt shots to tho
green ought to be mado with the pin at
least visible.
A blind hole Is a golfing Irritant.
Prosont day attitudes would ecm to In
dlcato that lis soon an possible It will
have to go. It will not be required
tliat the ontlro fairway to the holes will
have to bo Been from tho tee, but rather
that on all nppro.wh shot Jie pin be
visible. There can bo few objections to
this theory. It In built on the proper
foundations, for In n blind shot the golfer
Is forced to Include In his calculations
certain compasslike points which ought
not to go with tho stroke.
While dealing lightly with the sub
ject of course architecture because 1 do
not feel nn authority at all on the ub
Ject. but can present only the player's at
tltndo and his feelings I might add a
word or two about bunkering lick of
the hole. We must begin with the old
question ns to what should be the t-tand-nrd.
If C0.000 golfers think UU thero
should be no regular defined trap imme
diately back of the holo and ten archi
tects believe thnt thero should, who Is
right? , m .
The demand for difficult and long
courses fttrongly trapped nd undu
latlngly greened his come from tho
better golfers n-s a rule, and they have
educated the others. To my mind tho
colfera who play a good game. thnX Is
those with handicaps ringing on par
from scratch to twelve I hope the
others will pardon me for seeming rude
ness aro the ones who should, and to
a large extent do. determine tho con
(miction of a course.
In tb'Ji Instance I am reminded of a
meeting which took place nt tho Hruo
Burn Country Club Just pr"paratory o
the Improvements which have sinco been
made. All the members were Invited to
attend and the dlscuselon took place, be
ginning with the tlrst hole F.vcry word
that was uttered that evening was taken
down by a stenographer, and thus tho
green oommlfltee had the viewpoints from
every angle. Hut the interesting part of
it all was that nearly nil suggestions
were from golfers whose handicaps were
from scratch up to twelve. The others
did not care to Join In.
Which brings me back to my svrchl-
nrnl tnrlr Mil chested a moment ago.
Should there be bunkers back of the,
greens? Naturally. It all depends upon
the hole. Hut I am speaking now for a,
multitude of golfers who feel that the
back of the hole trapping Is being over-,
done. And these are the reasons given;
for their convictions: j
In the first place, one of our most cher
ished maxims In golf is, "Be sure to be,
up." On the putting green mis u. -,
come a cardinal point, and too much or
a cardinal sin a well In Its relation to
many a golfer. Tho man who I- "pawky.
who finds firmness In his shots lacking,)
never gets to the top. Somehow or other
wc arc afraid of the hole. This feeling of
running over, of going iwyona. is intensi
fied when we have a shot which calls for
185 yards with a carry of 165 and a keen
green to encounter. Oftentimes It Is prac
tically Impossible to havo the ball stop
anywhere near the. hole, and when there
is i trap beyond there Is the dickens to
pay. 1 have seen many tlno shot hurt
Immeasurably because of the nearness of
a back bunker which, in the tlrst place,
was too much nf a mental hazard beforo
tho shot was played, and secondly, be
cause tho keenness of the ground sur
rounding the green did not permit of a.
stoppage. Long grass hack of the hole
ought preferably to be tho trouble, and It
should not l ho very long at that. Two
or three Inches at most ought to nuftlc.
Ux)d golfers generally believe that ft is
unwise to have such traps when the shot
up to the green Is one which calls for a
brawdo or cleek or its substitute, and I
think that they aro right.
These remarks do not apply to alt
courses tho large clubs naturally have
members with snlendld knowledge in these
nfTuirs and put It to good use but it does
fit hundreds of small clubs which would
do well to think twice and carefully be
fore making Improvements. After n long
stretch of years we now havo arrived at
certain definite conclusions In regard to I
the aiohltecturo of courses, little and big, ,
and this knowledge is freely given If the I
members of the green committees will but 1
ask for It from the heads of the State
associations, or In lieu of this from thej
green committees of the larger clubs. Tho'
spirit of cooperation Is strong among'
golfers'. i
Owner of Viking to Ilenrt 7f ew York
Yacht Club.
Oeorgo F. Hnker, Jr., owner of the steam
yacht Viking, hns been nominated for 1
commodore of tho New York Yacht Club
by the committee, of which Cornelius Van-1
derbllt Is chairman. Mr. linker la the '
present vice-commodore of the club and
has been named for the place loft va
cant by the retirement of Commodore
Dallas H. Pratt, J. IMerpont Morgan,
prosont rear commodore, boa been nd-,
vanced a peg1 to vice-commodore, while
Harold K. Vnndcrbllt Is named for tho
placo of rear commodore. Mr. Vnnder- !
bllt is now commodore of the Renwanhakn ,
Corinthian Yacht Club.
Ooorge A. Cormack and Tarrant Piit
nnm nro to romnln In offlee on secretary
anil treasurer respectively, nnd II, W,
Webb keeps his place as measurer The
other nominations:
HeffAtta Committee 11, de Tl. Parvone, J i
M, Macdonouxh and Frederic O Fpedden.
Committee on AdmUalous William Hut
ler Duncan. Henry A. lllihon. Harold H. 1
Vunderhllt, Charles Lane Poor, Commander
V. U. Hawycr, U H. N and Leonard Hlcli
ords. lloui Committee Samuel A. Ilrown,
Charlea M. Illlllnns and Henry T. Maury.
Library Committee Charlee W Ie.
Henry 11. Kane end Jaiii I) Hprakman,
Model Commlttee--John Nrllaon, Frederick
M Iloyt and W. Harry McOlll,
Committee on Cluh .Stallone and Anchor
axes No. !, J I" Morgan: Nn. S, Wnlther
Luttien; No 4, Morton F, Plant: No. ,
Arthur CurlUs Jamee; No, 7, llobert W.
Emmons M; No. 10, .1 Harvey Ladew
Ihmla Over All (Ippoalllon f,,r 1'luali.
In s.'ntliitry dull Title.
Wolter I. Willis won the title of "King
DilfTer" nf the Flushing Country Club yes.
terd.iy In the final golf play after a nerlcs
of contests extending over seveial weeks.
The duffers were illvldtd Into threo setH of
sixteen each for match play.
A. HJoniHon won In the first division.
nullum .1. i-oienmn In the second, nnd1
Willis In the third, in the morning the
winners of the second nnd third classes
met at the elghti en holes and Willis de. ,
rented Cntenvan by 7 up .Hid f. to pla, ami 1
III the afternoon defeated HJornaon by 2 I
and 1.
Against Frinceton, That Is, and
the Eli Defence Not
So Good.
Against Trlnceton Tale had nn offence
fully as strong 'as llnrvard's and a
defence not so good. Yale mado threo
touchdowns against the Tigers, which
were one moro than Harvard made. There
la ti fundamental in which Yalo Isn't doing
as cloan work an Harvard, mid it is tack
ling; and In several fundamentals of
defence as well as In having more men
who do their work consistently anil In 11
finished way -this applies to tho line, not
tho backs Harvard Is ahead of tho
However, a team with tho spirit on
offenco 'and the capacity for executing
kaleidoscopic manoeuvres, such aa Yalo
was last .Saturday, Is a hard one to
guess, one of tho kind of which there is
no telling what it will do. The souring
possibilities of both Harvard and Ynto
make next (Saturday's game a still choicer
morsel. Hy tho same token the varie
gated Yale gamo on tho one side and tho
deceptlvV-'nuss and precision of the Har
vard operations behind the line when tho
ball Is put In play will call for quick
diagnosis by the defendeis; and we shall
see which better has studied out how to
take care of tho other.
Legore's tine punting against Prince,
ton showed Ynlo to bo strong In that de
partment of kicking, but' the Yale full
back didn't display anything like tho
skill at .drop kicking of Mnhan or the
skill nt goal kicking of Hardwlck. He
may do better with his drop kicks If he
stands further back. He wa.4 about eight
ynrds away at Princeton, nnd an expert
who saw him said he wan too close.
Driggs of Princeton stood far back
for his punts. He nppeared to bo quite
twelve yards behind his line, nnd ap
parently It was the Princeton plan to
have him that far back to Insuro no
blocking, to let his distance back take
care of that, nnd thus allow the wlinlo
line to get down. That decreased tho
chances of a run back, chances which
always threatened because of tho admir
able handling of punts by the Yale back
field. Tho game was characterized by profi
cient catching of punts, both side doing
It, Yale to a greater decree than Prince
ton, but loth contributing to handling of
kicks, which was In mared contrast to the
grounding of punts which took plaoo In
the Harvard -Prince ton clash. The Judg
ment of the Yale men who weie back there
for fly balls was like that of a baseball
player, and tho versatile L gore's diamond
expertnes.s also was seen In his throwing.
There was a baseball touch to his way of
whipping the forward pass. The analogy
will serve, though of course naseh.mll ac
curacy cannot be attained with the well
known prolate spheroid. I.egore drew a
tine finish on one of his two attempts to
purposely thruw a forward pnsn across
the side line. On the other he hadn't tho
hame accuracy and threw over tho goal
Una Instead of the side line. That gave
Princeton a touchlwick lr.stead of com
pelling her to put the ball In play on the
f yard line.
The Yale-Princeton game was one that
will holp to popularize football, popularlzo
It per so tut distinguished fr in such at
traction it ha ns a merely college specta
cle. Wo speak purely In revard to the eye
tilling. The wonh-whlleness of the game,
objections to or points in faor of, us to its
basic nature is another matter. The open,
swirling, all sorts of football by Yale,
with team play opened out so that indi
viduals stood out In clear relief, took on
the nature of a departure, a breaking
away from the conventional whl h tickled
the onlooker, whatever likely to live merits
It may have as tactics to win gamts Such
football suggests imre fun and lees drudg
ery. Added wiut Princeton's heroic biace,
as fine an effort to turn defeat into victory
as the uino has had nnd none tho less
heroic because unsuccessful. Combined
tho developments made the game ns classlo
a a spectacle. The score will be easy to
remember 1314, K 14.
Yale isn't the only team which has
resurrected lateral passing this year, and
the present season marks an tpoeh by
reason of the elaborations which havo
been developed In connection with tho
Hughy device. Tho pass itself didn't
bother Princeton greatly. The Tiger play
ers often covered the passer and the leclp
lent, but they couldn't guard against
everything. The pass strung out the de
fence. It provided a wider Held of opera-1
tlon for getting the ball to the last man
on the offensive team's sale of the scrim
mage line, and It created gaps Into which
tho man with the ball, sometimes to the
passer's right, sometimes to his left, might
turn. Tho times Yale failed to gam
were made up for by the gains of length
which wcro made.
"We have learned one thing," enld (
a former Ynlo player yesterday, "and
that Is It's good policy when playing
Pilnceton or Harvard to make all tho
points you can while you're making
them " This was apropos of the bit scare
Princeton gave In the last quarter. Here
was a yoir for Princeton in which the
playing of the last peiiod brought more
touchdowns against Yale than the live
previous years combined. They weren't
made by the watching and waiting policy,
seizure of opportunity policy, which has
won Bevornl times for Princeton, but by
fierce, nggresslve, do It yourself playing.
We haven't seen such sustained rushing
by Princeton against Yale since Hill
Church's day, eighteen years ngo. Hut
It didn't win. ntid on that scoie arises the
question which always arises when a team
that has been outplayed nnd la far behind
mnkes a rally: What difference would It
have made, if any, had the jwlnt produc
ing tactics been mado use of earlier?
Harvard' 0 to 0 tio with Ilrown didn't
tell much about the Harvard team, slnco
most of the varsity nrray was at Prince
ton. As a hint of what tho Harvard vnr
slty can do It amounted to nothing. It
did fchow that It takes more than Har
vard subs io beat Brown. Tho plan saved
the vnrslty men. and the happenings of
lust Saturday took a good deal moro out
of Yale, n week beforo tho finale, than
the Hrown game took out of Harvard.
Whether the Princeton tussle took more
out of Yale physically than It put In foot
balllcally the end of the week will tfll.
Tho brace l'enn will havo to make to
beat Cornell gets bigger and bigger. The
Dartmouth team, which has grown better
nnd better slnco meeting Princeton and
which probably would like to play the
Princeton game over again, far outclassed
Penn, while Cornell ewatted Penn's con
queror, Michigan. Tho Ithncans too havo
been gathering strength since a couple of
early season setbacks nnd are one of the
heaviest scoring elevens Cornell line. had.
The hitter's IS points ngalnst Michigan
were the largist total but one ever In
Hided on the Wolverines. Penn made JIS
points In 1 DOR. Failure to hick two goal?
cost the Cornclll.ni.i their oppottimlty to
break a record nt Michigan's expense.
Incldentnllv, this Is the tlrst time Yost
has Inst three games tn one season at
Spectators nt the a'oidham-Vormont
contest, ns frequently Is the case nt n
football game, came away without know
llig what really had happened, Thoy
thought Wymard of Fnrdhitm h.id failed
tn cimett a touchdown and boat It from
the Held believing I'oidhain had lost,
7 to fi, Itefeiee Kitivihurg explained, how
ever, thnt the kick was a goal. Wymard
whs tllstrrsveil until he learned the truth,
for he hadn't uiltscd a goal from touch
down all season.
I". , G, A. Aaka Clnba tn Make Re
ports) lr December IB.
Only 11 month remains before the time
limit ect by tho United Rtntes Oolf As
soclatlon for the filing of the handicap re
ports. Blanks were sent out recently to
nil of the clubs which are members of
tho association. In order that the task
of compiling tho list may be completed
ei expeditiously aa possible, the club sec
retaries have .been instructed to 1111 out
nnd return tho report blanks before De
comber IS.
A there, are between three and four
hundred clubs In tho United States Golf
Association tho sifting of the names Is
a big Job and delay In returning tho
reports makes It all tho harder. Last ya,r
the publication of tho annual list was de
layed by tho procrastination of many of
the club secretaries, and when the list who
published 11 number of golfers were left
off who should have been on, the omission
of the,lr nnmes being due solely to the
fact thnt tho clubs to which they belonged
had not made returns.
It Is deslrahlo that the 11st make Its
appearance nn early as possible, and tho
national association urges the club sec
retaries to bestir themselves to a greater
extont than won tho case last year.
Threo slxtecns havo been provided for
In the tournament which will begin on
Thanksgiving Day at tho Country Club j
r Lakowood. The plan of holding such
a tourney was announc-d last week, but '
tho programme has Just been sent out. '
All of Thanksgiving Day, November 26,
will be devoted to the eighteen hole I
qualifying round and the match play I
round will begin on Friday, Novemln-r
27. Two rounds will be played on tnat
day, leaving the scml-flnnls nnd finals
for Saturday, November 2S. All match
rounds will be at eighteen holes. There
nleo will he a handicap on Saturday,
Tho tournament Is open to nil members
of clubs which belong to the V ,S, O, A.
uisn payment of the club's regulsr dally
green fee of tl. Kntrles will close at
5 P. M. on Wednesday, November 25.
Intercollegiate 4'roas-conntry Heee
Hns Formidable Field.
Thirteen teams have been entered for
tho Intercollcglato cross-country cham
pionship which will be held on a new
course at New Haven next Saturday
morning. This will give members of
teams an opportunity to take in the Har-vard-Yalo
football game In the afternoon.
The start Is in an optn Held near 'the
Yalo bowl, and the route leads over varied
country. After covering most of the six
miles the competitors will enter the Yale
howl nnd make a drcut there, then con
tinue to Yalo Field and run 300 yardt
around the track to the flnlh.
Oustavus T. Hlrby, Columbia, will bo
referee, Homeyn Kerry, Corneli. chief In
spector ; Hartow R. Weeks, chief Judge at
finish; Kvart J. Wendell, Harvard, timer,
and Ti. J. Glannlnl. starter. Tho entries
Ilrown University. Colby College. Poller
of the City of New York. Columbia Unl
serslty, Cornell University Dartmouth Col
Ifite. Harvard University. Maeeaehusetts In
etitute of TechnolesT. Pennsylvania ftate
College, Unlverlty of Pennsylvania. Prlnee.
ton University, (Syracuse Unlxerelty, Val
Ilnln Fulls tn Ilnnipen Ardor,
A small pack of hardy runners covered
a etorm swept route through the city
streets yesterday under the aupices of
Kvenlng Itecreatlon Centre No. 12. Start
ing from the clubhouse on Hutgeis place,
they negotiated three and a half mile",
getting bak to the starting point in
scattered order and much bespatter 1 with
mud. The Hrt ten finished as follows :
I'o. Name and Clul). M S
1 I., lillckstierg, Century A. O JO 3.
: M Oblnti. Century A. C r.
5 M. Johnson. Century A. C S3 00
4 It. Jarfe. Mrrrlmnc A. C 21 e.'
4 n. Sampson, .M.i.llion A. C !f IS
6 I. ltaptierport Century A. C !i 1
7 r Hro.ldlik. .Madison A C 2 0:
s .12 Folev, unattnehed 2 4f,
J. llorms.ii. Lincoln A. C is
1 M Ilerir, unattn.-hed ; f,i
P.lke Jifnrt Oreen Clolh Tourney.
The seoond annual billiard and pocket
billiard tournament for the championship
of tho Klks will start at tho home of the
New ork Klks, m West Forty-third
street, to-morrow night at S o'clock. The
contending clubs on tho opening night will
be the New York club, pncnt champions
anil holders of the Heatherton trophy, and
Hrooklyn, runners up in the league last
year Tho trustees of the league have of- I
fered four Individual prizes, one to the I
player winning the most games of bill- I
lards, another to the man winning tho
most games of pocket billiards. The ,
other two prlies nro for th plnyers mak
ing the highest run nt each etyle of game.
Ilnlh Soccer Tennis Cry Quits.
After ten mtnuteB play In the second
half of their United States Football Asso
elation cup tie contest In the tlrst round
of the competition at Cretnpolnt, Hrook
lyn. yesterday afternoon between tha Clan
McDufTs and the Our Hoys elevens both
teams declared they had enough of It nnd
decided that tho game be called nnd re
played next Sunday,. Win n the referee
blew the whistle for the rtnal time the
Players wero at. anxious as the spectators
to leave the field. The Clans were lead
ing at that time by 1 to 0 This goal
Kennedy scored In the first half on a pass
from tho left wing.
Iltilloclf Is Triple Wliuirr.
Nnw Hochkixk, Nov. 16 Eleven men
braved the rain at tho New Itoclielle Yacht
Club traps to-Iay, H. H. Hullock won
three of the six matches decided, a leg
011 tho monthly cup, a distance handicap
for tl 0 Stevens cup nnd was high nun
for the day, with a total of 109 out of
the possible 125, A. I Hums won the
ten bird nnd tho fifteen bird scratch shootB
and O, P Granbery wns the winner of
the twenty-flvo bird hnndlcnp.
Call Onnie After Hour In llnln.
lUmiisoM. N. J., Nov. 15. After battling
nn hour on a rain soaked field In the Hist
round of the United States Football Asso
ciation cup tie series tho Ilrooklyn F C,
nnd tho Clnn McDonalds, nlso from the
Horough of Churches, permitted the referee
to call tho gamo on account of darkness
while the Clans were leading by 3 goals
to 1 The game will be replayed next
Sunday nt the same giound, nrooklyn
hnd to play with th services of but nine
men, Peter Hutler nnd John Jnckeon (nil
Ing to put in nn appeal mice.
Kdilln Flunk fiolnif to FedsT
IlANovEn, P.v, Nov. IB. information
which has reached here from nn authentic '
i-ource declares that Kddle Plank, tho I
Athletic' southpaw, will sign with the
Chicago Feds. Harry Davis, Connie I
Mack's right hand man, Is In (lettvslmri-
as a guest of Plnnk. Davis's visit Is
purely personal, although thero U a report
current lieu, that Davis nlso will sign
with tho Feds. The latter rumor Is b.
llcved to be groundless. Plank's tender
from the Chlfeds Is said to be donhU 11,..
amount that he received from tho Ath-1
mien piu nis euare 111 ttje lecent world's
series. This would mnkn his season's
Fiilary in excess of flO.ono,
Jeelin Ilrtelrr Turns llriiefiit'lor.
John J. Holder (John the Hnrber) hns
stnrled giving money away An a Hist
".1.,,",h'mHU'l, '"'tween his protege.
lllle Heedier. and Joe Shugriie, Keisler
has ngreeel to presi nt Shugiiie with Jl.r.nn
chsIi tor his enel of the pure for n ten
riiiiiiil l.uul, Now John proposes to open
bids for the battle nnd nil tho local e'lubs ,
have been Invited to send In scaled offeri.
Eighteen Teams Rtnrt Shortly
After Midnight nt Shot
Fired hy Rudolph.
Eighteen teams made up of bicycle
riders from all corners of the globo
etarted this morning nt a few minutes
past midnight In tho twenty-second
nnnual International six day bicycle rnco
In Madison Hqutire Garden. The rac
tvhlch began this morning Is the sixteenth
team race, the lx contests prior to thnt
being Individual affairs, which were
finally stopped by State legislation. Tho
countries represented In the long grind
which will have no lot up until 10 o'clock
next Saurday night nre America, Aus
tralia, France, Helglum, Italy, Tasmania,
Ireland. Switzerland. Sedon. Poland,
Denmark and Ilussla. It will be noticed
that Germany Is conspicuous by Its ab
sence because, the best of the German
rldera are nt tho front fighting for the
Kaiser. The absence of the Germans
makes tho fans feel that thero will bo
less chance of the Allies forming com
binations. Dick Hudolph of The Hronx, who was
tho prlmo factor in carylng the Iloston
Hraves to victory In the Nntlonal league
pennant race and toppisl his good work by
spiking Connie Mack's guns In the world's
eerlen last month, fired the shot which
started tho race. Hudolph hns been a six
clay race fan for a number of yeare, but
he has more Interest In the prc.ent con
test thnn In any of the other, for he Is
a patriotic Hronxlto and his borough Is
represented by a team made up of Harry
Kaiser and George Cameron. Kaiser was
nn amateur up to the time that ho started
In the long grind this morning, nnd al
though he has had no experience In the
elx day race there aro many who think
thnt his great speed and track general
ship will keep him up In the front.
The race, which will be managed this
year by Floyd MacFarland, .1 former
rider, has many features in more for the
fans. The principal one of theso Is the
trying of the Kuropean finish. In former
years tho placie of the men tied at tho
end of the six day grind has been decided
by a one mile sprint, but the foreign
riders complained about this style of
Ilntsh nnd asked for the Ihiropcan method.
Instead of riding .1 mile sprint at the
finish, points will be scored among the
riders on even terms elurlng the last
hour. At tho end of every fifteen laps, .1
distance of a mile and a hnlf, the leader
will get one point, the second two and
so on up, so that the team with tho lowest
number of points at the tinlsh will be de
clared the winner.
This system w,is first tried out at Her
lln last March and proved to be very
successful, for It minimized the chnnci-s
if vailous tennis forming combinations.
gao the veaker teams a better chance
and made the finish of the nice more In
teresting for the spectators. This method
was usi?d in the recent modified six day
event In Huston, which was won by Al
fled Uollllet.
Another Innovation Is the offering of
cash prizes by the management for pilnt
each afternoon and evening. Theie wdl
be u total of $2,l0ft given to the riders,
divide d up In purses of from t2l to 2uo
Many of the old t.mi rs who were tlx
tmcs 111 th" rice are not In th' lineup tnl
year, but they have been replaced by
youngsters who ge great promise. One
of the. ohlest riders In the event Is Hobby
Wnlthour of Atlanta, who has been riding
In the grind every year since 1902. The
newest to six day racing aro Harry Kaiser,
Willie llanley of San Francisco and Gus
Wnhlrab of Jersey City. All of theso boys
nre competing In the long ride for tho first
time. Some; of the foreigners never have
been seen at the Garden, but have had
plenty of experience In the Kuropean six
day events.
Followers of the sport have had a hard
time picking a favorite for the event, for
the field is cNenly balanced, Kddle Ite-ot
and Jackie Clarke, the American-Australian
combination, looks like n formid
able pair, for they aro good sprinters us
well as seasoned plugers. Harrlng accl
ilent they should nirely be up In tho fiont.
Another pair that looks equally us strong
is the Australasian team of Alfied Ooul
let and Alfred Grenda. whllo Joe Fogler
and Freeldle Hill will prove a hard com
bination to beat. It Is barely possible
that some of tho foreign teams, especially
the Ifillan-SWIss pair of Francesco Verrl
nnd Occar Egg. may spring a surprise.
The teams which stnrted this morning:
Kddle Hoot. Ilo-ton. and Jackie Clarke,
Australia. Amerp an- Australian team.
A'.fred ei.ullet. Australia, nnd Alfred
Orend.i. Tasmania, Auatra.'.aslen team
Iteiinle MrNnmarn. Austrn.ln, and Jimmy
Moran. Hoston, Austr.V.Mn-Irlh team
leer Lienson, Sa 1 Luke Cltv, and Peter
IJropHCh, Iloston, Swedish Polish team.
ejse-ir Kkk. Switzerland nnd Tranceico
Verrl. Italy. Swlss-liallin team
Joe Fouler. Hrooklyn. nnd Treddle Hill.
Hoston, American tcini
Hobbv Walthour. Atlanta, and Alfred Ha1
ate id, Sacramento, Dltie team.
Frank Cavanngli, Newark, and Chatles
Plercy. Australia. Irish teem
Percy Lawrence, San Francleco, and Jos
Maitln. Irvlncton. Atlanllr-P iclile team.
Oeorcee !erej, France, and Marcel IJuput.
France. French team
John Hedell mid Menus Iledeil, Lynbrook.
L 1 . Long Island team
Martin Ityun, Newark, and Ous Wohlrab,
Jersey Cltv. Jersey team
Worth Mitten. Davenport. la,, snd Norman
Anderson, Denmark, Danish-American team
Joe Kopeky, New York, und Norman Han
sen. Denmark. Century Itoad Association
Vlrtor I.lnart. Helghim. and Vlncenro Ma
donna. Italv Helnlan-ItalUn teum
Lloyd Thomas nnd Willi, llanley, pan
Frani-li-i re o J911 team
Umlle Coueeeau and Oeorses Parent.
Frame, Freni-h team
iiairy Kaiser, The Ilror? and
Cameron. New- York llroni team.
ItntKers Una IIK ( i.nlrnet In tV. A
.1. Unfile Here.
New Hrtu.NswicK, N. .1., .vov. i5wiien
It wns nnnounced by Manager Glllam to.
day that Washington and JefTerson had
consented to play Hutgors on November
2'i at the Polo Grounds, Nrw York eiltv.
there wn.s great Joy In the Scarlei camp.
Ieical Interpretation of the Hed nrnl
Hl.ick'te delay In nuking n decision Is
that the PeniiMylvnnlans were playing tor
time, thinking that the ltutgeis manage,
ment, doubtful of the game, would not
send any scouts South mi Saturday to
wltnoiH tho West Virginia W'sleyan
Washington xwi Jefferson bnttle. if this
sttppe'sltlon wns corect W nnd J. galne.1
little by mich tactics, for ho great was
tl" belief, hero that the gamo would no
plnye-d that Foster Sanfor.l sent dpt.
Toohey, .'ash, Talm.ui nnd Gnrrett to
witness the play at Wheeling, W. Viu
With th clinching of this game tho
Kutgers tepiad fares a sohi'dulu of threo
gamea within eight elnys time. She
meets Slovens next Saturday at Hobo
ken, N. Y. V. on TlvanUelvlnh- Day In
New York nnd W. anil J. the Saturday
Hcores Seven Gonls for fnlnsnya,
Hy defeating the White Hose eleven !n
a MotropplHnti League ilxture nt lleilleev
Field yesterday nfternoi.ti the Siibwni
I'. C won its seventh Mnlgbt ij.ur.e The
Individual hlrh g-inl scoring record for
tho season wae smashed by McOIrr, ho
landiMl the pigskin In tho While Hose
cage snn tlmeje The final score w,w
Subwuy, 10, White Hose, I.
Commitlee Prepnres Report to
rincc Refore National
l.ody To-ilny.
Three of the Important eemm
which fncllltnte the transactions ef ths
business of the Amateur Athlete t'r nn
met nt the Waldorf-Astoria yeter '.i to
formulate reports to be submitted to the
annual convention which Mill he iXf d
to-day. Only the rcconl commute,, n. .da
Its report public, the legislation nnl n.i
tlonal registration committees re-er- ng
tho result of their deliberation fi.r in
delegate's to-day.
The attendance wns reptcsentit vn nf
the far reaching Inlluence of the , t
and Included, besides the Mren'.' nr- f
the Metropolitan Association, tl f, liv
ing delegates from other ellstrl"ts
Middle Atlantic J Carney. ( F Piw.
ling, John A. Taylor nnd Herman M..yer
Centra! Kvcrett C. Hrown and M F
South Allnnttc Dr. W. Hurdirk sna
George T Turner.
Now Knglnnd Alfred J Mil, J J Mno.
cabe nnd 13. K, Hnbb
Pscltlo Northwest A. F Goldsmith
Px.clllc George James.
Southern H. Fltzpatrlek.
The legislation committee had t- .hli
of Its own trying to devise a seln-tne u
mako tho constitution of the A A V
conform with the restrictions cnta-.i
In the regulations adopted hy tun ,n.
ternntlona! Athletic Federation last j ln8
and It wns evident that this coull ) only
partially accomplished at the ne et'i t
elny. The Middle Atlantic Assorlnt ..n 1 hi
run the cart a little ahead of ti.r ) r.a
by framing a new constitutlm 1
can only be made efTe'cttvo by tV
proval of the delegates to-ilay, nnd t .at
Is scareiely likely under preset
Included In the teport of the
committee Is a resolution t! it
future no recorel will be ce,m,ir
ccpt for a ellstance or event re
on tho A. A. I'. championship 11. .
eir on the Olympic pregiaiii'u
will elo away with freak perf'
that have clmtereil up the re , ord
years. Among the performances .1
are several that ate worlds 1
well ns American
II. P Drew gets credit for 1"'
In !' 3-R seceinels, whh h eqtn's '
re ird
, I . x.
e i
y nli
credited to Dan Kelly ami al- . nil. on
the Pacific coast whete the , a
nppear ublV to make f.i-ttr 1 in
they can show In the Kast Moth Drew
and Ge'orge Parker's 220 1 ml- 11 .. 5
sevnnds, eiiualllng world's llgu e- . e
allowed and the huh Jump eif e; f,,f ;
Inches by which K. Hcewim d spl.i 1- tie
record maele by llorine in IHI2 T . vp
plication of It. A. Ctrreill for an ir
mark of 6 1-G seconds for ein .iri- a
held over be'ccatise of Insullli' e M '
Many other appMe-atlietis fir iec ' .
consnlereel, but were nut a-trd .
cause the iie'te-sary papers re r --.nf
or further Investigation was feur: i
sai. The ii-coieis allnne-d follow.
ft Yard Hun. In I ir- n u : 1 s K i
lluiehiniM.ii Kan, II S. Mar.li .s
" Yuri Hun In lonr- c . ' A
.ier, j 1 1 ri Allien, an A e-. jit, i,-y
I'O Yar 1 Itiin Indoor n :i 1.
Drew. l'i.l r-ltj .,f r-outh. -'i "
April :t
"0 Yard Hun. Outdoor- 0 5 3
Dr-w. March .
l.e) .rd llun. Outdoor 0:11 3-5.
Drew. Ausiiet :o
130 Viinl Hun. Indoor 0:j: 4-S.
Dre w. November I'.el3.
:.o Yard Hun. Outdoor 0 :1 j.j.
Dr". . February J
'..0 lard Hun. Outdoor 0:l -s
(1 r
j e
D 8.
Parker, O.vmplr C.ule. October i
660 Yard Hun. outdoor 1 :-
Meredith June
10 Ynrd Itun, Outdoor 1 :o
Hake r. New York A C . September
!') ard llun, eniMoi.r I :i . '
Ca, dweh. e'ornoll University. M y ?
to Ynrd J Hurdles. r-, t ' In he.
Ind .or s seconds r v Ke v t .
ot Southern California. Aprl'
0 Yard 5 Hurdles, a feet tj Infies
Indoor S seconds J It caj, O'.
February ;n.
TT, Yard Iiw lurd: 2 feet if : .
Indoor H see-onds ,1 J Kiler Lteii a
inn A. C February 14
, Yard High Hurdles, hurl , ;
s Inches hlKh. Indoor 3 l-S se in's '
; fst
e ,
neny. university of Southern
Ti Yard Low Hurdles. 6 hurdles. ; feet
Inches high, indoor:' see, .n Is J j ,r
1 insn Ameriian A. c. April .;
1 IPO lard Low Hurdles, i hurd -i
6 llleiles hte-h. Inilnnr 1- .n .
HoiV N."v,Yf.r,k.A- c- November -0 1 13'
1 . lrJ HlKh Hurdies. 3 fee- lncv
rumour in sernnda I w Kf
1 vnlverslty of Southern e-eiiforr.la. lv .
1.. l-0,Vard Lou Hurd'es. : f, t
hlrh. Indoor 14 :-t seeonts J J r ir.
Irish American A. c . Februsrr :s
11 20 Ynrd High Hutd re. 3 reel 1 I hrt
1 nigh, outdoor 15 seconds 1" w :: iy
Lnlverslty of Southern r:tn lev Msv '
I Kl'LAY Hi;conn
I 1.210 Yard Outdoor team ef finer nun,
en.cn tnan to run 309 ards--: rdr .tes 4.1
) eeronds Nen York A e- team r ; M-.
..u.i.. if. .1. I4UI1I1. v tVPkie. T. Le-.f nt,
.,:i 't 5 3-5 s-ennle K LlndenteJr
Mnety-feeond Street y M H a, l'rtni'i ti.
36 feet 11 t-C SMonle Ft 1 ' ' ..T.
J.Inety-econd Strfet Y M 11 A May .
I'Jf'?1 Lr:J' 1""-he. outdoir E, neesrora
Olymplo Cluh, May J.
. ".1 ."' Inches H H Lleers.dr
April 11.
11 Pound Shot, 7 Foot Circ e Outleor 41
feet J, inches i J McDpna' .. lt
American A e- . Mv 3d
1 SI Pound Weight ith Fallow S4 fri i
' Inches P. Kyan, Irish Amerl-ar. A c "-I
I ruiry 14
Futilr.g (( Pound Weisrht (or HeiM otit-
.. . V. " '"'lies uon.iMf is
time A O . Febr isrv :n
i 104 Pound Dumbl.e.l Pushing up lee re tt
dumbbell from elioi.ter to fu 1 , S
I -i times ) Ts iitibaris, Urk A"i- I a
, A t , January IC
1 Uquat eilatlng records
Faculty Instinct. Mnitnil r,,mi.itt.
ler to AL for Three .11 1 Ira,
IT1U'-A, Nov 1,'. That Cort e, 1
start an can. est mo emer.t to e
varsity course at the I'ouiThkeepsle r a
shorte ned from fVuir miles to tree
..iled h tiie a-tlon of the Corne
In directing the committee on st
fall a tn take the matter up fo' 1
e'otihlderatlon and to negotiate 't
stewards of the Intercollegiate r w e
elation. The faculty has not forte e
em levord in favor of a three m . .
but talked over the question at a t
j II developed that a large 1 1 '
profrstair i e In favor .f the t
rue'et and teicfoe the comm (
1 de'nt lUtaits wns Pisfnc'e.! t
n otter up Coach Cli.irP s r e- .... e
favored the three mile e-our-i f .
Teiiuplelna u I, .ml U Illinois
bamiuet given by tho Wilim-
team Snturdny evening in re, '
their victory eier Amiiei"' 1
Tompkins, l'.'lfi, of New Yrle
chosen cnptaln for iiet is
'Mils piepnri'd for eolliie ir - '
School In Gnrdem Cltv, beie
mi'lliher nf the f.n.iM!! Im
swimmlng tennis He hn 1 e
her of the Williams virsity "
sous, playing at centre ste a i '
middle of thlH year, nhen , .a if
switched him to fullback,
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