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THE SUN AND -NEW YORK HERALD, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER CO, 1020. RATHEEU SEES GERMANY SPLIT REDS SUPREME Gtineml Elccirio Hcnd Pre diets a Umikup of Na tioiinl Unity. THREE STATES LIKELY ulavnria to Sopurnto and Join What Is Left of Austria. WlINELAND TO QUIT ALSO Prussia Proy of Bolshevism, Which Will Suhmorffo Frnnco and. Britain. Bptcial CabU Iff patch to Tim RtiN and Nkw Ttmtt Mould, Copvripht, JJlfl, btl Tlia Hun inn HMW toik HnuLP. IMniD, Bopt, 29. A special denpntch to tli IAbcrte from Its Berlin corns pondent contains a rmnrlwlilo In UrWew with Dr. Walter Itathenau, head of tho German donora! Elcctrio Company and Interested In many of Qertnany'fl bin Industrial concerns, on what ho retrards as tho hroaklnir up of Germany. It Is Blsnlllcnnt that tho Interview was given simultaneously with tho opening of tho nnissols financial con ference, whoro Germany Is represented In tho deliberations that havo to do with plans to re.storo cconomlo and Industrial stability In Europe A most gloomy roport on Germany's financial conditions was Issued In Horlln on Sunday, tho day before tho IUtthonau Interview appeared. "I bcllovo thcro aro sixty out of a htinilrflil chance for thin lirnnltlnn- nn eventually," Dr. Itathenau rml0. At tho snmo tlmo ho expressed the opinion that Prussia would become tho prey of Bolshevism. Mar Rrrmnnr In Tlirrn Porta. "I'erhntvi the near future will sea the Qorman Einplro split Into thrco parts uie nrst, Havana, winch will attach Itself to what Is loft bC Austria; the second, tho lthlneland, which will be cotno a second Delirium, and, finally, tho remnlnder of tho Empire, namoly, Prus rla. Saxony, Hesto and Hanover, which nro Incapablo of supportlne themselves, will bo constrained to Jump Into the lao of Bolshevism," ho said. Dr. Itathenau declared that not only ore tho symptoms of this trend ap parent, but such a split would bo the logical outcomo ot cxlsttntr conditions and would seem to nppcal to tho va rious territorial units as Individually bcncflclul. "Dnvarla Is e"ssentlally ncrlcultural nnd has no ncod of Pruiuln, but,, on tho contrarj'. can support herself. Then tho lthlneland would find Franco's offers advantageous," he said. ,. Predict Ited Triumph. "OH tho other hand," ho continued, "Froijco may profit momentarily by this division ot Germany, but she will pay heavily In the end, aa no nation will escape the Bolshevist contagion which will result. Even England will fall a vlctlrt to It eventually." When anlod for his reasons for be- EUROPE COLLAPSES the only solution of the problem, ancei WARNS AMERICA IF north uermany purely an Industrial retnon separated from the rest of aor many, as Germany's flnanolal power de pended on htr remalnlna- Intact. "Don't inalco tlia mlstuka of believing that Bolshovlsm has failed," he added, "It hasn't. The Idea Is perfectly viable, It Is a, dqctrlne not only seductive, but one (hat Is capable of becoming practi cal, It succseded badly In Russia only beoauM of the fao( that the ground there was badly nrenand and conditions for spreading the seeds of It wars unravor able, Under other conditions It would have gained its way rapidly," MILLER AND RECEIVES GERMAN AMBASSADOR . . . Diplomatic Relation! Are Re stored to PreWar Batia, rAHia, Bept, 29, Wllhelm Mayer von Kaufbeilren, Qerman Ambassador to France, prosentod his credentials to day to President Mlllerand at the Ulysco Palsce, thbs restoring the dlplomatlo relations of Franco and Germany to tho pre-war basis. In handing his credentials to tho president the Ambassador declared ho would continue to devoto his efforts to tho favorablo development ot tho rela tions between the two countries, work ing nloinr tho lines of the Treaty of Ver- sallies, and he expressed his confidence that tho French Government would help him In surmounting the dinicultles en countered. President Mlllerand In responding said ho was pleased with tho sentiments ex pressed by the Ambassador. The policy ot franco toward Germany, he added, woum do umpired oy tno same idea, 'btcauso the loyal execution of tho sol emn pact which put an end to the war is me only means ror the practical solu tion of the gravo difficulties between tho two nations which now prevent them conanoraiing ruiiy in tne great works or peace." The German Ambassador said In ad dressing the President! "I have confidence that, thanks to the great assistance and enlightened co operation of tho Government of the French republic, the efforts ot my Gov crnment will be crowned with success," President Mlllerand renlleil! I con gratulate myself upon hearing you de clare that you will devoto all your en deavors to realtio the Intentions ot your uovernment in assuring upon tho basis of the Versailles treaty tho favorablo development of the relations which now are renewed between our countries. "The entire policy of the Fronch Gov ernment toward Germany Is Inspired by only ono thought. Loyal execution of mo solemn pact wmctt put an end to tne war Is tho solo means of solving prac tically tho crave difficulties that still exist between the two countries and which do not yet permit their full col laboration In tho grent work of peace." PEAB SPANISH POSTAL STRIKE. Dr. Visflorinfir of Netherlands Hank Sayn United States v Will Suffer Too. HOYDEN AHOUSES TALK Criticism of His Dnissols Speech as Too flovero Upon tho Allien, . Men Hxprct to Appenl to Interna tional Contrress. Madrid, Sept. 29, Possibility of a nationwide strike of , postal employees for an Incrcaso In wages Is given nrom- nenco In the newspapers HI Dla and El ilundo. Those employed on tho mall trains declaro allowances while travel ling are Insufficient to provldo necossary ubsistenco. The nowspapers assert tho men Intend to tako advantage) of tho assembly of the International Postal Contrress hero next month to press their demands and force tho Hand of tho Government. PANAMA OFFICIALS NAMED. National Aaaomblr Elect Three, Vice-President. PANAMA, Sept. 29. At yesterriav'ji session of the National Assembly tho three Vice-Presidents of the republlo were sleeted. Federlco Bovd. Hr.. wn. named First Vlco-Presldent j dulllermo Andrews, Socond, and Julio Fabrega. Third. President-elect Porras Will iRlllmA me amies or omce on October 1. nu the AHoelatiii Vrtn, llsussixs, Sept, 29, The necessity for countries In financial distress to get l work, to live on their own aotlvltlos and to pay their, own way, and to produce moro nnd spend less, were tho principal remedies proposed as a means of putting health Into the currency situation and stablllro exchange, at to-day's session of the International Financial Confer ence, Dr. O. Vlsserlng of the Netherlands Bank replied to yesterday's statement of Itoland W. Boydon, the unofficial representative ot tho United States, with a veiled but unmistakable warning to mi umiou tunica mat tr nnann n disaster came to Europe through tho falluro of general cooperation by all the leading countries of the world tho United States would suffer as well as Europe, Dr. Vlsserlng held that governments ana maiviauais are responsible for tho aopreoiaiion OI money and cnniwnunt1v for tho high cost of living, Ho pre- ecnuea aa remedies less spending, more work and greater production. Ho charged Individuals with , diminishing iiruoucuon oy snortoning tho hours of labor nnd decreasing tho ylold of labor ana recommenced tno gradual reduction of napcr circulation. Doallng with tho position of 'tho Unltod States, which, he said, "camo out of tho war more poworful than nny umrr country, ne said that In addition to tne American Government's claims upon oiner countries, totalling ilO.000,' 000,000. Individuals In Amrlw tmM n,l dltlonal claims nmountlng to 14,000,000, 000 for supplies furnlihod to Europo. IIo declared that the United (Hates pos eesses four-ninths of tho world' stock. Tho ways and means of meeting theso claims airalnst Huron, lwi ni if worn absolutely Insufficient, Europo still being iimuiu iu lorco up production and ex ports to a point where equilibrium could be destroyed. nVould not a situation orleo fatal to the debtor countries nnd ovcntuully un favorable to the United Btates, If tho United States Insisted unon thn nn ' "v uue irom wuropor' ho asked. a new equuiDrium or tho world might In the long run be established, ho said, but only after enormoiu imniitA mwcry, encouraging a revolutionary and Bolshovlk spirit Tlie United States, he declared, would not be able to escape the recoil of this. If thO COUrsa of aiTnlm thju-ofen. Is left to Its fate." contlminri rip vimL serlng, "a, fresh cconomlo equilibrium will be obtained In the end. nut In thn mcantlmo tho homo of the old civilisa tion win nave become a hell nnd tho new order of things In tho world win tut created only at tho coat ot moro vic tims than the war has already sacri For United Rfntea of Europe. "Boyden wants to found a. imiti.ii 8tatc of Europe." was the most general comment of Mr. Bovden's ineech. Rnmn of ths delegates, particularly the French. expressed me mougni mat no went too far In Asking the vleloriou Allies no 1 will last until Germany has fulfilled the go more than half way" In order'to har- monfto the interests of their former en emies, Particular Interest was displayed In Mr, Hoyden's referenoe to the Jealousy and lack of harmony" among the Euro pean States and the Impossibility nf their doing business together and his declara tor "If Americans see an end to all this hostility you will see a change In the Amerloan policy toward Europe," Ono p( the delegates, commenting on Mr, Boyden's advocacy of conciliation of forem enemies, snldi "Die Allies can no more forget what aieermany owes them than the United Slates can forget what Is owing to them by Europe," Another passsge of Boyden's speech commented on wasi i prefer those who have In mind the possibility of aid In credits or otherwise from the United Htates to the policy ot ths Government obligations under which she hat put her signature." The Ider'e. referring to Mr, Boyden'n remark ofi'Hiirope-s political nmiawiuy, Inquires i ''Whose fault Is III W might reply are there nnt 'tho fourteen points,' which came from the other side of ths Atlantic and which have surra vatcd the International anarchy and chaos?" In an Interview Willi (he Brussels cor respondent of ths Journal Mr, Boyden Is reported ns saying I "I also could nave stood up and, like Spain and Holland, proved that the economic situation of the united States Is not so brilliant as Is generally supposed, Nobody would havo believed me, Our troubles, besides yours, aro small, nevertheless they are real and require the most careful handling, "Our woollen Industry Is at a stand oxpresscd In the letter of Former Sec- etlll and cotton, you know, Is passing retary of the Treasury Glass, which Is I . the first nrlnted dnoument presented to I " -- tho conference, That letter expressed the Official opinion of the Treasury. "Further, there Is iv possibility of re lations In an ordinary business way. America Is a business nation, always ready for bus Iness. and w III oa even more ready than Jt Is now for buslnsss with Europe when conditions are sucn mat dus mess can ne none, nui at pre sent It Is my personal view that Amer icans will find It difficult to convince thomselves In large numbers and to great amounts that Europe under pre' sent conditions Is a good business risk,' Unused lo InvestluBT Abroad. Mr, Hoyden explained that Americans had never' been accustomed to invest ments abroad, having always round op portunltles at home. "When you add to that fact," ho continued, "the fact that Europo has gone through a terrible war and recognise conditions in Jtu rone, you havu In your mind's eye picture of conditions which will enable financiers to see that something Is la the way of Investments abroad. "Yet the Investment now going on will continue but only to the extent that our business men find It Is Justified hv conditions. They Will see It S JUSU fled as they see how muoh Europe Is actually doing to readjust tnese conni t'ons nnd as they see growing a feeling of harmony nnd unity among tnese sep r.itn ttntr nf I'lirntie." All tho delegates said they recognised. Mr. Boyden's address as courageous, but some criticised It as severe upon tho victorious Allies, who are tho cred itors of Germany. Other delegates sain they regarded It as a useful, u noi neo- eatnrv remmoer to isurooe inni nu must help herself before asking furthci help from tho United Btates. throusrh a terrible crisis. Shoe factories have been obliged to lower prices U low rest in order to olear stooit am obtain funds, Ths metal and mionani cat Industries areatsgnatlng. We also are not without annrehenslon wllh re gard to social transformations, Under the clroumslances. you understand. It Is impossible for us to fly to ths help of whoever oens us," Beferrlng in possible future loans he said I "One Indispensable condition Is the suppression of economic Imrrlmrtes Vfiwssn. iuppipo, Huppuiwif UIHV 111 America, Instead or belnif nbls in semi goods from New York to Boston In five hours, eight days were necessary be. cause the passage through eaoh fltate Involved Innumerable formalities to be gone through and bans to bo lifted, Do you think business 'could go nheadr No, IM me summsrlse my views In word) Create a United States of Europe and everything win pe aettien.- BOYDEN FOR 'UNITED STATES OF EUROPE' Suppress Economic 'Barri cades by Nations, tiemeay. Pamb. Sent. 20. The address Of Bo- and W. Boyden at tho Brussels confer ence Is attracting much attention. The nowspnper comment generally tnnds toward resignation, oiinougn more is n touch of bitterness In It. Tho Temps without mentioning the speech of Mr Boyden specifically, In a leading edi torial on the conference remarks: "Evidently the attitude of the United States nnd the recriminations of nou (ml tend to nravfl that the Crlnclple of International solidarity In financial and cconomlo matters la not understood by nil In tho same manner." Discussing tho possible accomplishments of the confer ence tho Temp adds: "It Is a long step from Ideal formulas to realised cer tainties." Has rtrndrred Service. Tho nfrnnsfoeant expresses the belief that Mr. Boyden "has rendered a great servleo to tho French, though ho has taught us nothing In tolling us that the United States will lend us no more money. "But wejknow now why wa do not understand the American attitude," this newspaper continues. "The misunder standing arises from the fact that for them tho war Is over, while for ua It I V USSSlBSSaiBSW 'SBSSSv xiui flsssssiBssaiBsa 7 Gentlemen Your hands I Arc they well ftfoved? 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