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Speech of Gen Cass on the Central Ame
rican Qneition.
Deb te in the Douse on the Kosita Affiir.
Parage of (he logrthau Testimonial Reso
?fee., &c., &e.
! F1K8T (UBfllON.
> Krnate.
WAauisuTOJi, Ju. 11, 1851.
Mr. Svwahd, (free soil) of N V , presented two petl
tions, wfcen
Mr Bkjuiit, (dam ) ol' Ind., moved that all prior orders
be postpoed, wliieh ih agreed to, and the Senate pro
ceeded to con?ider the notion to rata th* correspon
dence relating to th*
Mr. Ca.sh, (it's.) of Mich , took tte floor lad spoke aa
follows ?
Mr I'raeident? At the special session of the Senate la
March laat, after my departure, an extended disiaasion
look place la relation to what U known as the Ciayton
buleer treaty. My visws and course were ?o mu 31 oils
understood and misrepresented, that I owe it to mvself te
? utradlot and correct much that wad then aaid, aa 1 in
thin high place, where It waa sail, anl wheme It went
forth to the country But bee. del the personal interest
I aave in establishing the truth, with regard to my ovn
position, recent circumstances and duel mikn have gi ren
toe whole subject ari-lnj out of that treaty addili >nai
importance, and justify iti full examination. It will bs
recollected that in the early part of the last regular set.
?ion in coniequenoe of au'hen'ic public statements, and
?specially of a proclamation announcing the establish
mei.t of a new British colon; In Central America, known
as the Colony of the Be; islan In, 1 introduced a resolution
calling upon the executive for information upon the
aubject and also aeklog what measures had beta taken
te prevent the violation or the treaty of July 4th, 1850, by
shlch the United Statea and Great Br. tain precluded
themselves mutually from oocupying, or forlifying,
ooloniaing, or assuming, or exeroising jurisdiction over
Nicaragua, Costa Rioa. the Motqulto coast, or any part of
CVn.rel America. This r? sole Hon waa adopted, end In
due time we rewired from the department of State a r?
pert that th? executive bad no information to communi
on?! to the Senate In relation to the subjeat of the resolu
tion. but with this return, the Secretary eent ia var
tou* documents, which had not before been male
public being the correspondence between the Ameri
can and British negotiators of that treaty, which
disclosed a state of facte startling to me, and, in
deed, to many otheri in the Senate, and unloiked for by
the ocuntry. It appeared that when the treaty was rati
fled by the Senate, that ratlBi ation was given to the in
strument itself, without any limitation or explaaation, to
coatrol the descriptive terms employed in It. The aot,
therefore, of the Senats, must be judged by the words of
tt( treaty. Wk cd, however, it vm bent to fioglaod for
the sanction of the British government, that (motion was
made conditional, or reetiiotive, if you pl-ase by a declara
tion, not deny tig that British Hondurat made partof Oen
tral America, but announcing that the British govern
ment d d not understand the eugsgsmi-oM of tbat con
vsntlou to apply to that settlement and Its depsndenoles
And tbe instrument of exchange dis'inctly stateo that
?Her Utility's ratification of the said convention
is uccbai^d, under the exflieit decUratlon above
mentioned." The treaty was proclaimed by the A nerl
can gcveinmtnt as binding, without any deiaration
annexed to it, makiBg known the restrictive eoustruo
tion given to it by one of the parties, and acceded to In
whole or lc part by ibe executive of the other. B*sHes
this proceeding, alTecting the feelings and Intei cits of the
country, there was another, which though far less tnj i
nous in its operation, was certainly important to tome of
tie Sena'ors who advocated aud vited for tais treaty
The honorable Senator from Delaware, then Secretary o'
State, in announcing the executive aisent to tbe B.-itish
deaand, accompanied it, I presume, as a justification
for the act, with the statement that he had besn ia
formed by the then chairman of tie Committ?e oa
Foreign Relations, the late lamented Vice President Mr
King, that " the tresa'* perfectly understood that the
treaty did not include British Honduras." *' It was ua
dsrstocd to apply to, and does Include all the Central
American Statesof Guatemala, Honduras San Salvador,
Nicaragua and CoaU Rlea, with their dep*n:Wtea
Now, air, here were two subjects, both legitimate obj?cta
o t Inquiry for aay Amer can, and especially f?r My
Amenoan Senator, who had taken part in tnis rati
Bcation, and the pursuit of whioh, if oondualed in a
iecorc us manner, coal igite no just cau-e of ofT?4pto acy
one; and more particularly was it the right, tbe duty
ndeed, of any member of thisboJy, whose viewe or action i
vere not correotly rspreeenVd, to embrace the first far or
?ble opportonity of rsmovinj the misapprehension I a
?.th reepeote that was my position, anl I acted in con
ormlty with these snggaationa, and snbmi telmy vie* a
9 the Senate, and through the Senate to the country
?ad In doing ac there were peculiar reasons affecting mf -
?1 and some other Senators, who occupied a similar
t nation and who have already borne their testlin ,ny
?re to the juaice of the considerations I preaeat-d,
'be duty of selr vUdication aa Imp rative
The vote of tte democratic party in theSeaate upon
a ratiflcavv- tb'* treaty was divided, rome Oppusin^
id some supporting it. Du Ing the diaeusxloo# a 'au
the democratic uiembsri oonSiently pr''....,, ,w th.
U In the eflort W Biitish power aud inllaence
om ^en^j Amerioa. Mj friend from Indiana, who ?its
?*r me, (Mr. B. ight,) was among the mosi decided in
'a hoetility to the trea'y, an 4 as I said up>n a former
casion, whether his prediction was the re. ult of in
IecI or <f jud|meit 1 kn >w not; but certsinly
me has put the seal ef truth upon his sinuter
rabodings, and he irev now say to us in the
?jrAt of tbat ccmf< rtabfe old saw. I told yon so.
aealou?ly advocated tha treaty. I nad more ttuo os?
laversalirn with ths Senator from l)?ln wars res^'c iag
duilnj the pirwress of the negotiation. He oid n?
te honor toc( n?uTl me. as well as other Senators of both
\rtie* and 1 > smestly iccommendei to him t< goon au 1
?nsnnimate the work, expressing my doubts, however, of i
?e accomplishment of his expec a'ioae, bet assuring n; n 1
at if be succeed' d he wonkl render a sigual service l.i
s oouatry. Aidwtaycil I estimate so highly the pro
cted arrsngen en'.t Because It oooleuipleied the re
oval of Britith power and icllusace from Centra: Am*
3a- true Central America? at 1 thought ?ud 1 oontidsrei
at measare Ik lh ia 1U pr> sent ani fu'ure &<p? -.ts, a
eat p litical objsct moat desirable to be pea^*fu ly ob
mid Taose ot us who profsis aileg'tuce to ths M .a os
ctriie, and who advocated ths rati.1 lati >n ?f <ii<
?aty. were accused -f iooonsistency theo, and tbe acsa
tion has bren repeated >inse with a gs.>d deal of ??r
stDC-said aot a little sarcasm , and als . of sacr fl -,n ?
grsa. pnllticsl prinel|l? to a mere temporary ei^e -a
president, so far as this (juration of ra l&selion i< ii
Ived, with the lights before us, 1 bad nodouit then anl
ia?e no regret now. respecMag th* coarse which th-* S?
tosanetloned It is do*, a It til- curl -u? tbat -o:n-o'tU is
jo urged the objection with the most p*rti laeity a
ongh they also prvfeaa adbe-lon to th?t Cfdlial
n?ip'eo' A met lean poll jy, yet now (lad a re-olu .o?
r us au hoilt?'Jve asserti n by Ccrgret* ths in.y
ctcal n -ara of its establishtnect. In such a sh?ps
to insure 1 Leir eo operation Nor do the/ ie j.1 t t>?<r
i to put it ie * form to suit their o ?o views, an ' thut t >
mrnand th Ir votes. They eoaflu* thel* ae'ioi
severs critici -m std to decidec opp wl'ion Now, s.r,
lave no design to saertflr* a -eat natlnnal a Ivan age
a mere barren uogaa, reudsred snob oj oar diasea
?s Kn.1. slv this principle of Katipeaa a< nmtervea
?n la American affairs in a ao emu Congressional act,
d I for one will adhere to anl support it. &<me wha'
?y But while we dispute and lies! 'ate event-< move
, and, for tbe want of proper decision, we are whtiged
accommodate ourselves tne best way we can to taelr
ir e and toasequeaeee I desire the exolnsiou o?
rcpean power and iaflistce ftom nil jor'Jcns of the
stern Continent, not actus II. hsi^ as colonise by soms
rtpsan government ami, 1 oeliev* th* trie p'in-l>l-a
public law applied to the tosittoa of the A oerlcaa
Us fully jsstlfy this pre'.en-ioo A. vj existing c 1^
?a t*iey will follow peawahly and In g.,u<J time Well
, the friends of this grsat measure ha -* i? ran'
many years, sought its acccm^iisb neat I
I rriue it Is destinsl Vi com ? as ?ur ly at ?ai
int in the future. Ths coantry somehow is ^r*
-ed lor it, <le?ires It. demands It; bu*. ne I, <ei at- ,t
e is tbeee hall* ef leg' da inn, ?br-e there ougb t > e>
imp aid dscblve a i ion Not ?lt i-Uuding -he t
ticatlr n of the Senator fro n Delawa ???.is snsi I
r, ? as father ta tbe thought? taat its h.st'-y Is
<ed it Is but ju t beg-in. sir. and In * Jt glrr >iu< fu n *
, emancipation of the Western hemisphere fr in ie
al l m hoc intilg'ies of tbe Ka-tsrn is jet to ' nstl
e ore of oar proudest cltluia to tbe reep*c ..f uis i
i !. I >r m.'self, sir, if I cann I g-t ths Hoar e do
?e, 1 Wtll get tke t? v beet thug 1 can? ! Will sees to
cu e by oonvett.onsl artanje jienta the ex,l jsloo ol
ropsau ittluctce fr m this h*mi?( b*te, st*p b/ step,
?eexseary: aod to ee kfn/ to thM jbjsj-' -be e
e peculiar reas<.Bs srr>b rea'e.Vl'it hubl/ dsetrt)le
?? all Central * n # ic% fr^rn ^ %utio
pVtlon of tbm! r#?ir >n wan 'O ?o
dlvW* oonditioa of its Metes, rivals, aa< easily swaye-1
or eon trolled by foreign intlnen ? g. ve greftt Importance
to tbe etl wt to place thorn bavond any ea ernal ac ton
adieree to our interest; and a* It *? certain that we
could oat a* taic this obj-ct by any othtr joursewe might
adopt, I felt myeel fully ju. titled id eadaftTJltaf to ft -
tain it by ft ceaventional srreegsmeiit with the piwer
? hose interfererc* m'g'it be nont lnjufu?us to our Inter
ests If the failure hM bwu aa utter oce, ft? recant dia
< losure* ?cn ace?, tbe fault is not with thoae who vo ed
for iheietlflcetioa of Ibe treaty upon the fftith of its
expressed enu-agemerts That theae war* the views 1 eo
tartained and ?*prem?d at the time respecting tha exclu
sion of British iotiusece 1 hate already atated, aud that
statement baa been confirmed by ft number of the Sma
t ?f?, home of wbi>m are yet amotg us. 1 shall specially
mfer but to twoiif these sa 'anient/*, more not being
n-c**?ar? aod 1 refer to these fiom their paiullar
bearing opoa the subject Mr. 8)u'e stated that a*.
? meeting of the democratic Senators, cillel by
the .'hairman of the Committee on foreign Relations,
(?? King ) he, Mr Sou'c. when the draft of the propM
ed treaty waa i?ft1, objected that the provbioa for *x
eluding foreign influence from Central A*nr rica would be
sufficiently explicit in the transact! >as of ordlnaty life,
and though It admit ed no real doubt in its construction,
Httil, "ae the object ?-ai to diveat England of all p.eten
? lens to *et up any right to any portion of the coiatry
embraced by it. 1 thong bt it would be butter to have the
intention oonehed in express words." He adds. it was
stated by >r. King in answer, "tbat whatever obsourity
there might seem to be in the article is to be it ributed
to an anxiety cn the part of the British Minister to hare
hi* national pride protected, and to a desire oj the part
of Mr. Clayton to indulge him la that natu'al wish ?that
Eaglsnd felt she was forced Into a k lad of backlog out,
and it wan txpec'.ed we would not Insist ap.n acy expres
tlon being in the trea'y wtich might wound her sensibil
ities " How far ftll this U compatible with the aeaertija
tbat the Senate knew the restrictive applica'ion eventual
ly to be glren to the treaty, 1 am not called upon to ex
plain, and I am glad 1 am not, f>r it woul I be ft hopeless
leek to undertake So far aa respects my personal views,
the declaration of the Senator fremWteconaiu (Mr Wa'ker)
is ao true acd explicit that 1 mast trouble the Senate to
bear it. ' If tbe Senator will ftllow me," Mid the honor
able member, addrvsslLg me while I was speaking, "I
think I can give Detrly the words he made uie of Ha
spoke In very oouiplimentary terms of the thea Secretary
ct State for the position be bad taken, and he remarked
tna it waa the lir?t time in the history of (J.-eat Britain
tbftlakt had gt'en up territory without a struggle I
r< collect tbat dirtinctly, and I presume others do "
N< w fir, 1 suppose no man within these wails, or rithout
the Ji, will call in question my tight to Investigate this
whi le matter, anu 10 plate myself upon true grounds ?e
fcre the ecu tit! y And if tbe Snator from i)elaware has
ai.y joat caure of complaint, It muat b j because I failed,
by uusonrteous or uncalled for remarks, or in some other
i' anner, to do prvperly what I waa this called op: a to d ?
I this soy Aod allow me, iatke first plate, to fay that
the honorable Sena 'or, in his remarks at the spscial sea
sion, <" id but justice to the personal relet ons subiMtin;
between h mael; and me; and I absent cheerfully to all he
said upon tint snbjact. Tee friendly intercouree between
us bad been uninterrupted, and there were c!roum
stances to which he rightly alluded which had ten led to
htinngtben this mutual feeling. I had, I could havo,
neither motiva nor design unjusMy to asull him,
aud 1 say here to him, ami to tbe Senate,
tbnt I have carefully reviewed all that fe'l from mi upon
that cccasion, and 1 do not find one unoourteoua epithet
cor a persona!!* harrh expression Whatever he may
oonsider u?. pleasant is necessarily In thesubjast itself,
and not in the language employed; and Itmbmit that a
fair examination of his course la this matter eould give
him no jutt cause of oltenoe, (speclallv as I waa not a
volunteer in the work, but was driven to it br self respect
and iu self aefeu And I shall proceed to my present task
in the same sp rit and with kindly feeling ? to the Senatoi
from l>elaware, but still with a determination to examine
the whole subject fairly, but fuVy and to show the erro
neous impreestons under which I waa astailed. Now.
sir, what IB the oomplaint of the Senator? In what
am 1 his accuser, aa he terms me? His first charge
is tbat I stated that he " rec wnixed the British
title in Honduras oimtnonly called the Belixe,'' aod that
1 obarged him "with having admitted by hit letter
that Central America was not Central America at
all, and that the treaty did not apply to any ter
ritory where Great Britain hat tiy sort o' jltiui "
Mr. Prealdent, the honorable Senator baa com nltt*J
great errcr* in thia atatemeni. How a ad why, he aba*
can explain He can And ia do reiuat k* actually mad* by
me upon tbat occaaion a aibgltt word, not on), whioh
charge 1 him wit-i hfrltg recognised tut It itlih title to
Honduras, or with harirg admitted that the traaty did
not apply to any territory where Great Britain had any
s rt of claim The Seiattr say a that all tie reports of my
remarka which appeared on that aic the sucoeeding day
will allow that these charges were mad* ay me Tula fa
rather a looae r-fereac up <n which to found sash an ac
cuaatlon But lot that pass. I do not know what raraioa
of uiy rema'ka he may bare met with, but thia I know,
thut ui \bi< ('imyrcuvmal Globe, in th i Union aud io the i
JfatvjfiOl Iiuelitymotr wlie e they art oorreotly reported,
not a ij liable i a to be found in support of -.hi* statement,
aud do p#raon la or out of the Senate should maka auoh
an abortion, w thout turnii g to om at leaat of thi jour
nal* containing autbori/.'d report* of our prooMding* I
do not know what other ptptrsor latter writer* ma; hare
made me ray 1 am not responsible for their error?, noi had
the SmaU r frem Urltwarea right upon any partial autho
lit toaay tha1 ' all .be report* of my remark*" concurred
upon thin subject Why, air, Independent of the meral
offence which such a miarepreaeniatioo woull lure jar
ried with It, an assertion like that, wholly anauppur'<ad by
the facta, aad contradicted by the dooament* brfore na,
would hare bean an aot of folly, which I troat I am little
liktly to commit A* to the itatejMnt that I charged
him With ? Hating almltt-d by hia latter that Central
\oeilra waa n<t Central America at all," I bare, in the
tir^i p!*c* to obearva that he haa not rafenad accurately
oity remarks What I atated waa: "Mr Clay to i aay*
that the nrgoilatori on tha part of the gorernaieaU an
C'MOdl tb- matter alike; that ia, that neither of them
understood Oeiitral America to be Central America at a'l,
nut 'hat both of taero nnderatood that npon the faje of
ilie treaty, th .ugh Cen'ral America waa incliUad, yet the
Bri'.iah were therein axcluced " In the next place,
ii la ubriwus tL.t the *niy aiaertijn I make in the abjre
ex.raet ia that tha negotiator* undent od the uiitter
alike, acd that to man wiliieny 'or Mr Claytoa las sail
it Lirotelf Tna riat ia matter of inferease, and I Co
not deeper of oonrinciog the senator, aed certainly I
t-cat to shoe to the Senate tnat tbe expraasion it t^uite
?ltnlt iLe *pb?re or proper argameotatioa Mr process
of j aitiflratif i will be ??iy brief The p'oriaions of th*
to all part* of Central America add by
th:' '?f?i*B?:ioo I understand the geog apbical regi n o!
country to whi> b ii f' usually applied including ail Boo
dnrai , aa well -bare th* B iii'h hare o )t*ln*i p >a**uion
a* wlere tbey bare n it. I am not colng into the truth
o> uror ot thia opinion at thia time. Toe .'ilbjiot oaibaes
auflk-lrutl; ti*ou?*ed In tbistol;, aad to renew the da
bate would hi a profftltss consumption of lima 1 tare
heard n ihirg which ha* sbakm my orirital conrlitioc*
ltd the m<-r* tha matter has bwo examined th* mora
persuaded hare 1 been, that to exclude B:.tuh Honduras,
a* England bold* it, from Central America, i? a maraarbl- |
tr*ry aot of eidrioa rad ioing, without jaxtiBca.iaa, the
limit i of that wail known portion of our ooutin*nt. I
a ha) i content my> el' with leferenc* to an anthorily or
two. and then learn tbe question to o '.herd. Wa i, *ir,
thus Uotiog at the atipulationr of the treat; , an-! finding
tbat h\ an act of tbe Bil'iah goreramaat, ace?d?d to by
oor<, tlir Britlab aettlementof Honduras rilh it* depend
encira aaa excepted frooi operation. I *aid aid had ft
right t "*y. ai'.h my riew*. thai thia coarce of th* da
cretary of diate admitted tbat Crntral America waa not
Central America at all Tnia w?* not tne a* ertion of a
fac . mat La ? a 1 four ally made thia admlaalon but a de
duction from tb* |iren.iae* logical or illogical it mi t tar a
no1, for ay pre*eni purpoaa tbat hi* acquteecenie in the
demaLi)* of vie Bnt.ah Minta'.er had u changed tb* cjud
try eor<-re by the t etty tha* Ontral A> erui waa no
k iger Central Amtrioa nd tbl* la *o obri.m* from tb* te
nor of r y i*n *rka, which r*?*r toaliUie neieiwary facia,
tba*. any miaconoa ptu n inu t bare bean a ?? y caraleaaone.
I iepeat. air, tbat tn? ? ha*ge *?? tba cjnclU'iiM I drew
fromibe official act* aod eclaration of tbebonorable m*m
b-r Anil no<, air, to tbe ref'reneei which Ibara ju*t pro
mleed. Ti ev will b? to the British girernment aad to the
9*i ator f'om lie la <nre in hit capaolty of Secretary of
Sta'e. and I * ippiae hat tBeae tu '.bor'itlei will at any
rate c.rry weight ?it i b m in a ooatroveray iorolving the
int*reat rf the one. and where It* opiai n wia adrerae o
i * int?r?a', and the oirisial proceeding* of tua otaer
rio - trea:y, after hart g been rati lad by th* Siaata, upon
iulang-ege an not upon tb* u (.demanding of tha n?
gotia:ora, wa* aent to England for tbe lanstim of th*g>r
ercnunt. An' tl.ere clroum?t?nc*? ahow that a^rehan
* d wa* ?xcltcd lent ib* Houdura* setllement* *honli t>*
en h-acd with n ' he iimtte of the region oTer wtiah it
OImM To present tLia it wa* retu-nri witli a qmut
ratid ail n. or ra'ber adec'oration tbat the aettlejieit
a' Hou araa aod i ? dapenCencie*. we e not auhja*'. to the
ftiaK'niinti of tbe treaty; and tbla decUrat oa .ras re
ceiv?o and reciprocated by the Sec ret* -y of State by a
Muiiltr ac', which the Senator from I>^law>rn call* a
"pount? ('ecla^ati^o." but why I oonf-a* my ioablltty to
duworer . for it dot - not e- onteract tbe de.natdi f the
Hritiah Mln'ater, but a-aenta to it by enn-.eding that tbe
'??cg*<"n ente" of tb* trea y do not apply to Britiah
liondura' aoO It* der<md-n:iet. Hie tar an of taiacu
ce-uo- I -ball lefer io ?aire.stly, to tbat tbe S?u?toi may
ha e ih? benefll of kia owo words to ea'abl ah hi* own
*<?** 1 will merely a*y here tbat I h?r* llttl*
belief In tha prao'ical e IT - c t of hia littt'ftMim
,S w,airwba waa .h* duty of the exec Jtlr* wneu a treaty
wa* tho* r*turne<i *lth a ceola-ati n intended to control
it* uperailona by co; *id* rat onr ex .e-ijr t> th* *tipula
in c-f Why, Ui and It ax*in o tbe 3*nat* aoa*tita*nt
bian,'he* of tb? trea'.y ruakiog power, for 1m cot* iter*
tii.n ato aeti? aud >ot uodt.tak* to re* trie', it* a;p 1
ratirn tf tra uidaratarding of the sogotlat <r*. a*, the
?i,i ? e i f r he Un/ uge ? f ta- CJareoU u though oo* of
' bewe h* j .* ed to ?e the tfecre-.aiy of tta State For til*
i t.ion ? f uoc'.ion* waa bat an ao*id?nt, aad what wa*
do*e upon that ocaalon may be doM rpjn any
other ami th* noder*t*ndln{ of thea* ag-tta of
omntiaiKn may become rti >r* important tbaa th*
leit o' tha i*atxum*nt itne.f. And what raaaon tra*
*iran by Jia SeerwUr^ ?f State for tbl* omiaelon of a
.ila-n dntj ? He le.l* -ttr Heary Bnlwer tktt th* diflicaity
arnr* lr.ni th* ute is oar conrentioa of tb* tern
' Ce?i tai Ameri-*.' T? be aure It * ad I am o.ily
aurpriaed tha' tha racti*ea aad powerful intellect of '.h*
Sar*'?r fr?'ni (Vla??te did not pereelre that by thi*
a-kii wl<? gament h- actua ly giraa ry th* p >int In con
tri ?eiaey mOu^ita.l ? an', looiapntab y Wedoaitln
Utd ?. include yoni pna-e-aioa* 'or thi* la th* purport of
of lie c onaeaion *>at w* u*e it, * th? term Central
America which embrace* tbeui, an I now w*
n n at ie more . the dtffi ;c Ity by *u)*Ututm| for
the pan laorut** 'be courantton the mi
t>ial cn eralanditg of tbe t*(o'.l*tora, thui excepting
fr in i a stipulation* *e*i -n* oTer ?lil*b they extend If
thi a not th* lru? point rf tk* '-dilll talfy" an 1 of th*
'?on ?r?t*" iag." then lierw i< none for if ll mduraa
an ', it* d*|> i i ncioa are cot in Ontral Amtiir t, than
the; a i n.< difficult' *ad no t' uad* for a damanl on on*
?n'e n r a e., noawaioo < n tbw oth?r I Cannot find, after
a i vrofu' >*? i illation, th?t tbia qo*a4ioa ?f th? irua po
?iti w.fH Mlura* -ith r>lati ntof'eatral A n*rlca i* at
*1 I . t,y it,, vr retart of it. e. Trw B-ltiali Mtaia'er
cl-iu* in ajclualon fioro t e op ratlin of the treaty,
beiti:** hi (or* i in- ot "?<>** not an lerattn I th* ei
g*. orf. t.,ai c mvar'lon tj apply to her K*j*?tr'a
ee;Vm*ii * II u ia or to It* d*peni>t ?a ' Aad thi*
daMaraii.nl* r.*r b th* *rjwal(0 th* | art of tbe *e
er? tary of 4tat* ' tha' it waa aelth*r urdcrato dbythein,
('h- It. i ? la ji'taimu tit) n i l> / *! b*r of a*, ft'1' B'*5
tiaii : *) to in lad* tie r.'.a'u a?'.t;?n eat iu H >aduri*.
(coa oou't calltd Bm h H 'o or**, a*i*l*tluct tro:n '*?.?
*ta'e o' 11 n<!lie*" > - - as... v! ;a' , .,i tii?r<
tmtj w? negotiated TO not I. tended by either of to
?ppij. And there terminate*, ?f course, all <? iir?r
"?V' *? . ** th* negotiator. w*r* concerned
Kagland obtain. what iha ?uu by tb? Kxx.i t
ansa of bar ocndltioaal rati Scat Ion, aad by. tne
?ckBowl?d(?m?o*. with which It w*? r*o?ir*l by our
executive; for though there la no want of cautHas re
.twrtiv* epithet., apeoial pleading. perhaps, in thu
aeeent, yet it will be fount that they irill produce no
effect upon th* claim of England. On* clear limitation
defining what w* g*y* ap, wcull have b-en true pol ct
and tru* sincerity. We (tia up ? |irttj h Honduras" io
expree* terms; and certainly that eontaia* by far the
moat Important p?rtl n. of tb* co?*?sioi. ofKigland,
exterding, an she clalma, to the Saratooa rlrar, If not to
the Gu!f o' Doloe Tha only limitation 'a to the ? d*
pen.lenelaa," meaning, I .appose, tha l.land., aad re
striding fbe claim to the email one* lo tha neigh lorhotd
of the s *ttlement*, and '? which may be known" a i tie
pendencle*. Woat are amali UUnta. and what ia tha
neighborhood of a settlement, c'a'mt-l to ei'and m ire
than two hundred mllea, and wbal may be known aa de
l?rcie?, pre-ent aa fruitful subjects for eoutr vverny aa the
dip'iinat jit who moat ?.ejoicea ia hla trada could desire
Hondoia. ia excluded from the treaty, ao ffcr aa appaara
by the paper*, aolely on the ground that tha negotiators
cid nat in'end lo iuolule it, a< t at all on the ground that
It na.n not covered by tha convention. And af'er thus
arKentirg to the demand* of the British Minister
the Secretary of State proceeds to explain why t%*
term Cential America wa a naed In the treaty and the
reatou turn. out to be that It we. "adapted b>?u.e Via
count Paimerston had aaaeiitad to It, and used it aa the
proper term." I am .orry itat lo better reaaoa oenld
be esslen.d for the aae of this d.scrlptiv* epithet than a
wi.h twaccommrdate the British MinUtwr for Foreign Af
faira. 1 pnauma every Senator who voted for tba treaty
supposed that the term "Cantral America" ?rae etnpl iyed
to designate a given region of or.untry with wall known
J ? that It was not a -era vague expraaaioa, ueed
la compliment to a foreign auggeeUon. The deoretary
1- i/i?*' .'!? ffttur?"y "opposed. on tbia aoo uat, it
would be tatisfactory to yinr government." Toe reason
for this remark i. not at ell obviou. The British Muta
tor had made no oomplalnt of the torm. used in tha
iu/f !?*! i.#, lt' Tt" word' 0,ntr*J America are
not to be found In hia note lie merely elaimH th* ex
emption he demand. i on th. ground of tha mutual nnder
?l!ln?fi -m , on ,hlt gr0UQd h' obtains It But what
?u?7? rtl11 lM" 8a'0"ptiole of aatiefactory explanation,
st t! ^J0,,r8OT'">n>*nt now intend," saye the deore a.-y of
h.?'*?iS ?? 3 , of ratifications until we ah all
UmlX'0, C*ntr?' America, w. must
ni hoH! f? ?r UBt1' ** h?T8 further information
raanr. ?.wu . " prw*nl "* haT? n? means of
?hl L? ? lj!0"uln could not obtain before
-7.. . . ? , ,0r ?xe,h* n?l ?< 'be ratifliiatiooa would ax
J _,rr, * fr' u, \"T unacconntabie T?e BritUh
g?T?rnirent a?ked no delay of the exabange of ratiflta
t? f " ao,u?"y r? ' I'd the treaty and ths
f., r ? instrument waa in possesion of the S.cra
tarj ct State. And what ia attll more extraordinary he
f'"un'fM.in ,tl' JtTT letter that he accept* th* deciara
rnlk.. ' ^ ??1??lnP?to* tha act of ratllicatlon, and
makes it abaolute. by hia own conceaalon of the fact
nT0 Mg0 ,h# .?nJ d-livsr lt to
. ir Henry Bulwer, and 1 without farther or other ao ien
to exchange the ratifications of the treaty" Why talk
of the poat ponemai t of ratilcationx in order to fix the
limit* of Central Amerioa at the T?ry momant when he
Ihe'taU nDfS?D! "HfW WJlh th* other pwty t And
*fU,r h" U?d Admltid what
?h! ^ < ^ !he exclQ"'on of their oolony frjm
the proriaion* of the .reatj I It waa shutting the' Cable
A .K?rM ^ ""f*1' Th?y had gained their
Object, and to them a apeciSo b >undary w?a comparatively
unimportant, and why not 8x the limit* during the pr..
"'??tiatlon?? That might have been done and
ou?ht to have been done, if there were any real doubt* aa to
? a r**i"Q covered by the treaty, in
i 1**Tlr8 It to the uederataodlag of the negot'stor*
In thia letter to Sir Hr nry Bal ?er he ia told by toe Seore
lary of Stat# that no alteration oould be made la the
treaty without the a taction of the Senate, but he dree
,hat authority ha* been g!Veo to thi
m aiater by bia govern nent to propose any a terat'on
Why thi. remark Mr Preeideat? Toe Sejretvry perfectly
7 !L f*T " Britieh government wanted Ue yield*
to their demaota Id this very letter H< knew th*y want
ed the exclualan of Hnnduraa from th* eegage oent" of
U?T';r U UP?? the express con <1
tion that auoh waa to ? the effect of their action The
proceaa by which ou-r cnmpliaace with thia deirand waa
to be givrn waa aqueati >n for us, and not for them/? a
question of internal udmloistratlon, with whbh they had
nothing to do a,d a loot which they ptobably caril as
little "by the Sscretary started a c.natitutioi.al point,
reepecting tf.e divider! fatctlona of our gorcrment in a
correspondence with a foreiga mtnl-ter, at the moment he
aa sects to hie applioatioi, ia what I an u aMn t ? oonjei
tore. I preeunieSr Henry Bulwer, after jompletU* tha
excbargeo. ratification. ?a< perrecllr wlllin< t) JercnU
un to fettle the queation In >ur own way But air there
wa* an alteration, aad a eerku- one, made in thia treaty
by th- rider annexed to it, quit-, aa eflejtual for the par
poeesof Kngland as if it had been Inserted io i> *&"
Utiona. That iastrument embrace* C ntral Ameriia and
the ratification of the Senate covered that region ' If a
questlm arcee reepecting ita extent, what rii'at had
the Secretary of Sutetoe.tiN it by hla own act and to
except fiom the "engige treat'1 of the treaty aa extensive
and important aeetlon of the count, yf By the ae^rtUM
of the ci ndltioial ratification, aid ny acquieaoeoce in lt
PJX'P 4de^lbl' ,#etrictlve cUu-e to the* reaty
a* *8*. tually ao far aa the cla m< of Kjgknd are on
oen.d, aa ,f it had made part of it. provum? ? ,m,
formal maantr? provided, that the eogagemsot'a of thl*
ccnven ion *r ,U mt apply to the British wtttomnti at
Honduras or to ite i5?pemlr ncie*. Tber* is n dejvinzer
explain ng a.ay this ine.itabl* conae-iuence of ex'cSt *e
v. f 4 lotion arises a, t'o the t,r:k r.l ex
ent of the obllgatlona of a treaty it hh till he &<tin
r nb/ P-r^'to'rVoo^i.M .u'in the
part of the Secretary of State t? fore it- promuUatioa and
independent of th? action of the Senate. 11 aw ?a a trVatv
n cur atatute books whose ng g.aienU" u ,Tl!
?ienU? AB<,,,C*1 hut iHjaed Dp ?ran g Ih?
exerutWe archliea ia a (*eo!aratioj that Hosduras au 1 its
a^Tu V ? t (1 m;8t "roll<lc ??>r.aio term a'1
wt.hi !u ' M wtuu> have aiace ?h;wu are
ict within the atijiolationa of the treaty. If a v>atro
reray should a, lee between individual.. tU.
q i??ton wkat a jnrloua eu?-j-et would ih a atati o'
.biijga pre, en; for judicial actn. ' What would o.- th u<h:
of the proceeding ahould a caeaiou of o>untry bv ri?j?
t* m,i> tc the I'ut'ed Statea, and the trei-ybetbo,
i* mad by th* Senate, ana then should the ex?;a?ire i
own i^ponsibUity. declare that a large extent
th.t "cep'ed from ancti ce^sinu on the grounl
that such waa the ' underataodirg ' of the negotiator* 0f
he convention Aad this I, precl-e'y th. principle of
JL f*"' and D,> "'?n c*n fail to aee thi danger
?a?^uf'ia7C'^? oh,ch wtabliehment woaliVe
oeaaanly Jead The SecreUry of tate nee ins to have
had iLlagivlng. upon thl- aubj-ct, for he thought
It B.cesaary to a?oertaiu the understanding of the
?!*?,.? VVP TJ'Zm th# f?ot of ">? ?P1'1'C?
V i,, had b**a 40,1 the Senate did not
nnderstaod thia maMer aa he did. the treaty would I
have ? one bark to that body for it* reoonalderation.
Tbia preeuppi ned that there w<* an actual important
arranges ent, only to be justified bv the feet tbat tt wa? 1
in accordance with the via*. 4 a co ordinate branc i ef
the treaty making pover. And what wae the coa.titu |
tional mode of as Mrtaiai ng the eeaiimente of that bod>?
Moetaeaurediy by ite refeoacs to them in tbe usual way '
by the exeouUve, with a full .taUmentofall the cireum !
standee. Thia cou. at would have preserved inviolate ail '
cor ktl'.n tional p jwer*, and the view* and decis Jn of tb a
1./.V ! n,?d* ko0,r,> the eaUblieied
C.-ntrovarey in which we lod on melee* 1
engaged it th* beat commentary up., n th* impr. pnetj
anc ancocrtitntloi allty cf this wUl. executive pr oe-d !
lig InaUad ot doing this, the Secretary of S ate a ki
ReUtfr n ."^ ?i! oh.4irm" of the 0 m attter on Korsi^n
Ksiatu ns a* to the view, of tue "euate; and the Seoauir
from I>eUware, in defenting th* oourse, speaks of th*
wlf bv th.Vrt0" "?"ici41 ? <??." '"eking to j istl'y h rn
self by that desi,'uation. Sir. a mesbar ocjuppiog that i
a^LT,t;ilj0,ln r.tlh#,"0fflBl41 or??u" to make kooen
authoritatively the views of tb* Sena'* to the exe '
ciitivj than any other member of this baly. Toe i
Senate, in such oasee. ia tt* own organ, aad
it. in'fTcour** with th* l'ree.dent ia oarri?i on bV me, i
a?f ea on bi. elde, and by vote, aad ie.ol.it on < en th*ira ?
Thia very exferiment, equa'ly un'ortuna e lo U. inception
and con-, qnencee, expoees tb* error of a deptrtur- Iron
! k ' 0 p ec*d">*> and of th* attempt to
MibstitLt- the opinions of an individual fjr th. actiln of
the pioper tx dy. It la q lite clear now tbat C >1 King did
n^"U.Ed **e 'ta.e of thing. b-t*e?n the S-ereta v
rf ttate and th. British Minister, and it i. past eontradic 1
lien that a large portion of the SetMe never throght cf
tgreurg t< the eiclusion of ? H cdnraa aua its dep-nlen
cie* frrin tb* obligauona of ihe tj*a*.y, ?nd vomd hire
votea against it. rat (i.atl a had thoy belie 'ed that .uch
an attempt would be made. All this a vote of tbi. body
would have shown, had it* cinatliutlnaal right* b?en re
gained. Tve ^eaator treats this (.ranch of the auiiac: in
a elr gularly oavailer manner. II- ,*ys he has b- ore him
the letter if the cbairn an, Col. Hug, l^foin ing turn of
r 11 U ?"?cluaire," hs adds, "of the fact that
the Senator, me.ning mysojf and all othe-a who vote 1 for
a?.d .gaia.t the treaty, perf-otly i nder.tood at the Urn*
J ? territory ? f Brftl.h Hjadur.s was not included
' ' reaty^ All under ,to<id it then , but a f-? have said
v?. ey did not utderet.n' it .o, and a fev other, try
tc ve lt i. not where tieir o?n ofiiolaj .?rgao da
f ar? to me they paifec ly uodersto. d It to be wb?n '.he
treaty waa ratlfi*.i by them They t'y ?(. o?'nvlct thalr
o en organ app >iote, by thsui to cowmunioa e wita m?
<f a miaatatement, or to Oontici tham<elv*s of iguj
raace " ?
All 1hU la rery bad l< gie Md etill wore* U?'.e
'DtWd, It 1* att.'Ut tb* m;>at extraordinary yl?w
iter taken o' tb* portion of tb* member* of tb a K dj r
I knew before that lb* chtiraaen of oat e<nnmti
1e?a w*:e our T*pr*??nt?tiT*e, with fall power, tbanluUIr
precluding u< by their iUt?D(?U, fr <m aaaer'.ioc tb*
trn'b in our own ca>? Why, ?ir, thi* ii too rxtraragant
to bear an argument. Il ord?r not to rootlet our i>wn
on an, h? me Stutter cella lb* ab<urm> ?, or, ia other
word*, not to o?rr?ct mi?arpr<h*n* on* we ere to *it
?till. aed aufler cumelrM to b* cunnc'u*d of fr ?*? i^ao
ranee, or eomething worn* 1 tail tb* S.nHjr b > ?ipje*e
hirae*! to ft a*?e e retort by keying that '' all under
*t?<4i it then,'* ? bai a laig* portion of n? tall him re
DLiiarrt nftfueh thing O lr a ln<*'l ignurane* la hi*
aeeutnption? praau sptioe I might oall it, but I wi.i not
which nothing lo ta? relative o< indium of bims?l' eal
otl.er tneaberaoftbin body canjnatifr? theobalrmau of no
rou,niiitee is tha leepwr of oar booor or veracit; ; and it
tb* fotnUir ap*ai ? h?-r*a* be think a and feela, ha an 1 1 ap
predate fry (ilff*r*>a'.l/ tba real dignity of tb* poai.lon*
w*ocnspt in thle great d*pa-tni*n< of tba |i??ro u?n'.
1 hat* raid air that I ?b?>uld rafjr to the authority of
tha BriUil: jprarnmi nt in tl.la quaUloa of tb* extvnt of
Ocual Al atira and I now proeaed I > do ad. Ta? bin
i rattle tVnaW f. om 11- aware la ao wall aafi?u*<! wltii bia
own labora <n tbla >ubjaat that b* actual'; " tarowa
d. wii lb* gauntlet n>t only to oe-tain ' *!?# tnan' who
ha i iliibhd hla (ergrapbtcil and diploma;.* in'alli
hility, but *i*n to tna C'u.mitte* on Ferelru Kila'.ijo",
tlT.tyg t hen to MM IUi part of th*i f report if tii?y
can." rif nlNcantl/, If rot eourt*onaly, earing "I h,?
ctn e the lesuie; in my tarn." I woo I *a'*r the I ?ti
air. with au antagonist cbo tba* proni-e* to erjat hla
. pp?teni? bat I will tarinX'j ?ng<"t that thu kind of
" If e nfi '.nc* ia not elwayj a ?ur? au?ury of rut>>.-j.
Mu?U al liance ?h. old be wad* for tk* ?T.dt>etlr **cl'.?l
feel. if* ol tha lutmnar, ani It rei}in*( injoh before
the i.-i'en of hia lan?ui?e can Sad rlli-n I
ru^n I: to birr, U>a' while complaining of oth?ra, be baa
??rrled cnawar of aggrea.! .. ocwnb' o' hla p ? ? -i
aUUoc! t ie h?t* "fit U>> | r?f ??>?' ?ii!>
ac- .. ? _i i .. .U f Hii.,-- w.
boy ought to be aahamed," and mueh more of tWa
ncrt, bat which I have Utile taste for aolleetiag.
I bar* already sal* tbat I do net prwpoaa to
eater Into the qusatioa whether Hob lnras aul itade
jroi enelen are portion** of Cential America 1 shall eon
unt myself with eoaoe very general remarks on the aib
j?et, and with referring, as I eaid, to oertein eutb-rna
live acta and < pinloaa entitled to much weight In thia
controvert*. Firat among then are the viesrs of the
British gosernmeat, and I 'will transfsr ?o it the gauntlet
throwndown by the Senator, "who aa<Ters the repot of
the committee to ooeer the repoit of others who averted
with ao mueh confidence that British Honduras wa- la
eluded in the treaty." Toe Britiah government eeat
back the treaty with an^ictU declaration, aa a part ef
he act of ratification, teat ita eogageaienU did not ex
?end te Honduras One or the otter hypothesis ma it be
true In explanation of tbls court*, and I leave the Sena
tor to Uk? bia ohoiee, aa either ia euSlctenl for my p ir
poee. The British Cabinet muet have thought tuat tae
descriptive tenn Oantral America embraced t >??? pisses
sinns, and, in that event, tbat they mi?t te abandoned
by Great Biita n, or that the question was ao doubtful
'bat a contest might ariae upon the eubject with the
U ti ted States and. In either caae, a pruaent foreilght
demanded that all doobtahoald be removed by an explicit
'declaration. In any other aepect of tbe transaction, the
declaratory annunciation wa* a mate act ofaa;er?rogatioa
equally useless and undignified; a folly, indeeJ, which the
Brllieh gov. rnment waa not likely to commit. And li'.tle
pugraci UK aa I frel myself I will throw down a gaaatlet
al ? , and challenge the denator l rom Delaware to point oat
any other reasonable motive for the eondust of the Eog
li>b ministry. I aui satirfied. a'r, that tbe treaty by the
te. m ^Central imer.ca did icclnde tbe settlement! cf
Bii i>b Honduras. bn'. 1 do aut suppose I ahall be aoctiried
01 an mm of patriotism when I say, tmt a? ao A neri
can citizen aid denator it is quite par 'onable in me to
think my country has made oat a clear ease in a c >n
vention when the other patty thicks it is only a probable
one. All I leal deei ooa of eatabliebing is that I bad g >od
reasons for believing tbat this treaty would abrogate
Brttirh influence in Central America, including Honduras,
and this 1 establish by the vary act of the other party.
Bat we have more than this, far more, air. Tbe papers
recently discloeed, to which I shall again rev-rt by ani
by, prove freynid doubt tnat in the opinion of British
statesmen, high in office, and whose opinions are almost
decbire with their government, in man cases tbe settle
meots of Hutduras make part of the Central America de
sci ibed in this convention. In the letter of tbe Q leen's A i
vote to the Britieh Seere ary of State for Foreign A fairs,
that functionary lays, "1 understand Mr Clayton to as
eert that b> the treaty Great B:itale had abaadonel all
di uiiaion in the whole of Central Atneriea. Which assar
tion is, la my opinion, incorrect, and at vatianca with tbe
fact, at leaat as regards Beliaa and ita dependencies if
indeed this eiceptii.u from Central Am?ri:a was u t in
tended by him." This exoeption was in'ended, as wa
know, by Mr Clayton, bat under the assu-notlon that It
was nntersteod by the negotiators that the "engage
menta of tbe treaty did not extend to tba Jriti'h pos
actions " ' Gre at Britain,'' says the Quean's Adv cats
still further, 1 may protect any State ia Cmtral tmerica,
by fo es of arms if needful, & c , provided only that la so
doing ahe abatalns fioui occupying, kc , or exsrcUiug any
d mil Ion be;ord her own territory ia Csn(Tei America."
He -a js, also, "She may certainly do ao, (that is, oarry
on m.litary operations in Central America.) If i he ab
? talcs from oecopying, or fortifying, or assuming, or
exerci*ii.g dominion therein, beyond her own territory."
Lord 6'erendon, the British fecretary of State for
Foreign Allaire, in bis despa'.oh to Mr. Cramp'.on,
iurni/hed to oar government for its Information,
leaves no doubt of tee true extent of Central America
In his opinion H? observes that " Ureal Britain has no
where in the treaty of April 1860, renounced, nor evea
bad aty intention to rennunoe, the full and ab-olate
right which she possesses over her own lawful territories
in Central America, such as that designation was c is
tioctly understood and declared by the negotiators of
tbe tieaty, nor has Great Britain renounced by the treaty
tbe pro'ection which she has affords^ far ceutanee past,
and still alT*' a to the Mosquito territory." What other
lawful tarritoiies Cieat Britain possesses la Central Ame
rica thaD Honduras and lis dependencies I know not, for
the Mctquito country is not jet claimed as a territory,
and it la evidently exclude 1 from tbat description by Lord
Clarendon. By the Koglirh lawful t?rrltori?s ia Central
Amenca, aa that designation waa distinctly understood
ai.d declare! by the uegotiatora or the treaty, LirdCka
iend<n reft re, I suppose, to the joint aot of; hen ego
' tiators, by which the engagements ef the treaty
I were declared not to extend to Honduras and iis
dependencirs, though situated in Ceniral Annrija
Having thua established the position that the Britieh
g, verLicent believed theae set .lemen'a were in Central
America, < r at !eait Lhtt there were etrong greunda for
such an opinion, and tavlng shown tbat the former view
! is enteitaiLed by her emineni men, whose official duty it
istooonsiler the bearing of tfcis question upoa the in
I tereats of Great Britain, and whose sentiments were no
i doubt submitted to and approved by I he Cables! before
| tram-mire cn to this conntry, I now proceel to refer, as I
promUed to the Senator from Delaware, while acting in
hiscajacitj of Secretary of State, as an authority of no
little weight in this controversy When the B.n'tsh M'.nU
trr, with the tider upon tie treat) excepting from Cent al
j America a laige portion of its te-rr.tory, asked the concur
! rent acknowledgment of the Secretary of State tha\ thii
demand waa just, it appears that Us application, if un
e>p?cU-d was one for which he waa not nnpret>are3; for
| the subject itself tad occupied the oomiderati >n of the
n*got>a ors at their conferences. Thay had, In fast,
coine to sa nnderstaLding in relation to It, as wa are
to'd by the Amerisan Commissioner, who sa; a that "tbe
language of the h.?: article of the con vention was
, not uideratood by them, (the British govern
t meet.) nor by either of is, (the negotiators,)
to in Wo* t?e British sett'emtnte ia Hjauuras,'' & t
Ilea wby Dot sa; to? Thle q motion m jit havo b?oa
disan between the uegot.uting ignu, though w <t know
nt .. ng o' tb? dl>casslon bat by tne result It wis not
*1 ru g upon the S?net? br the original debate lo this
body . No ?ufiersUnting" could havo bten :om? to up
oa this joint without mutual consideration ik oilcan
Hon, vlica pre suppose, o( course thus the ? es
d fficnlty to adjoet by moh eon Moed action Us -i%- tv
aoa its c. mequences cojd not bar* fsjapeJ th; penetrv ?
lion cf mgsci-jus statesmen, nor the consideration that i
tl ere ?a a latitude la the wordi of tba treaty wfaisb
was *o b# b'.Do td by the un 'triUs ling of in frameri,
?rd o< t by tte p oper adaptali d of the language to the
r.-al ? ??jet i/. He who read it would or might reasonably
?i ppcie it was deei?n*d to exolode American acd Brlliih
iiiniiiitin from all lestrsl America listnly, whi waa
b?lmd tfce scenes, could know that tba fact of the instru
ri-ntna?to be controlled br an understanding between
two persona, whote functions expired whan tba in
strument was signed Now, fir, this discainoa and un
derstanding between the Senator and hW diplomaHo
co'lesgue should bav* sbowa him, did show bis, in tee 1,
that here was a very important quee'lon left at lo an
eerie.' im,l)lng_a doubt, which might have been rao^ral
in five minutes by an obvioua change in the ' lan
guage." Little is baiarded by the aaeerti n that the ne
gotiatora :ame to ao understanding roe meeting any other
territorial po seealoi s of England, except Honduras,
tb< ugfc, indt?d, they-may have talked about tba Mjequito
cp?st; but with what practical arrangement it U rata to
inquire, for Lord Clarendon, in tba deapa'.eh to sbisli I I
have alluded, says that bis government wil) holi on to
the protectorate there, wliicti it has enjoyed for cea
tnres and intio ates in no dou >tful language, that the
eflorts of the States of Nicaragua ani* Ho'-clarai to take
pcneetsion <X thin Indian territory within their sorerefga
t j, would be resisted by a British force. Tbe Senator
from Delaware look* upon the Kogiiih preetorwte as
nothing bu a paternal care of ''miserable eavagot"
?views in a mo>t kiaoly light the interest t*ke*> by Pnj
land in tbeir behalf, and demands, in the name of hu
nanlty, if'wwdeeiie i-he sbonld not send food to the half
etaivtd eavigea f May sh? not send the Bibls among
them r Do yon wish to prevent that ?"
Mr Preneent I know something of British interf trenae
with Indian tribes? something of the subsidies granted,
so feeliigly touched npi n by the denutor, and by
which they were retained as netful allies against
??. so designated by the British c immiailouerH at
(inent, and the history of our Northwestern frontier con
tains n an? a tale of blood, many a reroltiogKoene of atro
cious cruelly, due to thii union of the Christian and tba
s*r?ge 1 bare no patienoe with tba' atl-ctetion which
seeks, in feelings of cbaritv, the moU<e for tuca uaholy
c.. -operation; and were the sutyett not l< n grave, it would
really be ainu-ing to bear an) Senator dsscaut upon I be
becevebnt reasons which alone prompt the Brlt'nh go
Tei i.uifnt to watih CTet the welfare of tbe Mosqui'-o chief
au'ihis pMpla. As a prastioal matter, 1 should think
that the laigest stock or knowWOg* might f.jd objscU
enough of philanthropy with wliir'a to occupy itself In
t extend ana its depenaenciea, without seeking farther etn
ploj uient in Centre! Auierica or upoe the frontier of toe
1 l1 ea StaVs Hat, attfr aU, llie St-natji I* Mtarf to
encounter a disapiioinimnnt in tbis part of the treaty.
Tbe error was In leaving the protectorate at all; and, i> it
were Isft, in Uari'g undefined tbe relations it carried
with it, In his justification of this ooarae, he teils ns
ti a; these Indians have deadly foet around thsm, and
t^ ' ?e bsd to justifiable moliee for prerenttag li.-eat
B Itain 'torn interceding, in a friendly way with any one
of U* Central An oilcan republics to save them froji ce
? ruction " Kuft wjros tlieie, Mr. 1'resiUent, and
?oft y put Interceding with the Central American
r>puciics in a frienuly war, on the subject of
lia'lan tribes, which, by all the reoognisei prin
r tlei- of the law of nations, are aabj?et ai >oe to th? ao
?ion of tbe Civil ted governments wiitia whose juristic
tii n ibey reside Hnt Lord Clarendon, a- we have seen,
te'U ii r ii ther s'ory. Witl him th?re Is no question ?(
fi m1)} int?rferencr. b-it of arme.i in erventiun, and he
?.rn a* and the Spanish Aire Mean gavemnieata that
mj attrm , t io do as we have done and aa ! lowland hat
? ii ce, auc as all other elv litel nations npon -hu eoe'.i
ii? 1. 1 b.ve dooo, to control tbe Inflan' within their dc
n ii ions, will be at tbeir own p?ril, which tra^ilated into
Kcgliah means war with Knglacd. Rat whatever ? pro
txtion" of a charitable nature, or of any oUer. England
i-sj reid-r to tbeee Indian*, it muit bs within the spirit
arc object of tbe treaty. It mo it he witboit oioupation
for.iicati ??. or dominion? without political tiiflaence in
ce?d? ?nd tbe pretext to march her fores in j tbeir
country, and thus to h< Id It for her own parpoeesin their
Di.Dt? is an uttet perveri-ion of th>- language ..ml p ir;> #??
ofine convention hhe eeeks to do this for th? protes
tion of tier own interest*, not of thetra. 1 repeat, sir,
that little is haaarded by n<*ertt?g that thete wa? uo div
t between tbe i egotiators, ao nnderstasdlng re
spectipg any other of tbe podSMsioas nf Rngland, trom the
t.rrxoce to tlx Ganges IV> you suppose they talked
ab'iut Jamal-a, or K.ogU?h (.niana or Canada, in connec
tion ei'h th * treaty T N ftkiig of il, a ad simpl/ bejause
no tare man could pretend th*y were em raced by Ite
langvage But precisely because snch a prete.ision conM
b? leai-Hnshly advaneed with reipect to Henduras it b?
hovid tbe Krglieb Commis?ioner. in the interest of nit
romtry to o me to aa understanding, by whljh thii con
oleaicn might be foreilmod Acil be did so; but tne
Lime auihori ice wanted something itrnngei than the
t- ere declaration of inten'ion, and ibey obtained it by the
eipen- co operation of the American executive. And an
der theto cr<-un.sunces bow lisppens I' that an i-nerioaa
S?OM ary of Stata, conductlag llie negotiation on the pari
o { l is country, when be foti?.d tbe laugoage was eo eq'ti
vo- al ttist a mutnal nnderstandioT be.-ain? nere^ ary to
ee 1,1 li. h ite true import' Wby dM be not, I say, re.no**
ail ei^irocatlon by ao ins*ant change in tbe phraseology,
so that no one conld b? misled as to the obligati ma creat
ed by the Instrument? Tne Senate would th-n have
kn en what tbej ratified, and tte countiy woiil 1 have
k ne c what duties It incniied. without the me of a
g??-tt?er, oomplled fi r tbat purpose b / tbe Secret arr of
| 8 tie in the form nf ao official i!?cl?t?t on, undertaking
I !p i i tr ro'tant particular to pit an anthMitattra
In. v; , r. a \:l. ait c" ' a'i" .al ?ovwreigatr low
i u > .ii concur w tn Ut*G>iaiAr'ew on i i -,t A ' i- ?,
nru the ?h? i ' ented bj tn* U-juoi ?bl# t-UaJ^Mni
, ' ??? ->r.'-v ?* ?? ? ?>. ??.
Ury of Statu to the Bri i?h minister waa to s??k m a
protMt sganst tl e acknowledgement of th* title of hU
country to Huadi ru
The bettor from Delaware npidUtM Ulii eoa
itnuUoa of bU aet. aad w?U be may, for aothaf
can b? clearer than that what Sir Henry Bulwer win .
ed wa? a ra rgnitioo that Hondarai and its dependen
cies vara out inoluded la tl>? " engagement'' of the
treat r. Ard thii ba got by word and deed so oletrly as
t? preclude all controversy on the topie B; deed. for the
Erglmb declaration restricting tba operation uf th* con
struction w?s received with tba aet of ratiftoatiM, aad 1*
npoii the flies of tba department of Stata, unjontredioted
to this <fay; and by wor<", for ba is ei presaly told by th?
Secretary el 8tata, and tba same fact is re,>eat*l in the
memorandum deposited by tba deo retary with thf treaty,
"that Brltl?b II >uduras araa rot embraoed ia tha treaty, "
it la Impossible to establish tbla point rr.one clearly.
Tba Stnator from Delaware Mama to oongratu ats him
Hflf Li i tn tie fact that be let', tbe title to Hinduraa
as tbe treaty bear a It, wi boat denying, allirmiag,
or in any way meddling with tbe same, 'jut ai tt stool
pi evimiilj . " A nl the honor a 1* ebairmau also appear*
to at acb tout importance to thia meaaare an a precau
tionary c.ne 1 muat confeae that to me it it another of
the eoi/uias of the** enigmatical p ooeetliug*. What tbe
Secretary of fitate could mean by talking of leaving the
Bii.ish title, an the treaty left it "juet a? it siood pre
viously." (prevuusly x a treaty which it wan understood
did act touch it.) 1 am uttarlt unable to oomprebenl,
after he had formal y drclarel tba*. tbe coevealion did
not extend to t hie colony I*, neerns to me '.hat a refer
ence to tbe treaty of Ghent, oianytther indetd, woull
bave been jcit at appropriate Tat moment be acceded
to tbe British demand, that moment be bad no more to
da with tbeea possessions than be had with the city of
London iteelf, and bia protect againat the title of tbe lat
ter would bave been just aa appropriate an 1 at valid at
?g&imt tbe former, a>d not a particle more ao. It waa
n< t a mere act of supererogation, bat eo far as re?p?ota
thia convention It waa an unauthorized iuterfrrense.
Kor auuht that appears by the paper r, the British govern
mett did not afk tbe United States to reoogniee their title
to tbefe r- giona. Tuey raid nothing about It, not a word.
They asked our acknowledgment that tbe treaty did
not extend to them and tbey g<>t it, and there ended
i be matter. Nor do ^oo.cur with the Committee oi
Ft reign A (Mrs in their estimate of the etTset of
the acciiMivn thu? made by the Secretary of State.
Vt ith re. p-ct to tbe praoiical operation of enau a decla
ration as tbis, m>(*e At the time of the exchange of rati
tlr-atione, whatever that might be, if julged by tni ordi
usry piiBcipl-s of munleipai law, applet to indiri 1 lala,
It cat Lot tie contested that in the intercourse of us ions
vLete mutual ergageinents depend for tbelr f i i rnaot
upon mutual good faith, each a joint prooedure * mid b*
oa re'dertd by the party Itself, aad by the world ?h a full
jnnifiea'ion for the construction demanded, and oon?e
iiuentiy In tlia care, that thia tieaty had no bea^cg upon
her settlement of Honduras and its dependencies, or at
my rate a (.orticn of them. Mr Johnaon In his letter to
'be Senator from Delaware, speak* of th s question as a
strictly iegai one. and re 'era to tbe putoaol on ths ei
change of tbe ratification of the Mexican treaty um bearing
in pii^ciple upon It. Bir, it go e* far beyond more
teihnioal consideta'iona. and far beyond that ait.
That waa the declaration of the opinion of tbe Com
miarioner as to the extent of certain clauaee of the
treaty avowedly made without any authority what
ever This was the aot of the head of the nation, the or
gan of communication with foreign powers, within the
1 lire of his authority a* he considered it, receiving and
ashentlng to a conditional ratification, and d-c taring that
the Senate understood it as he did Fir I suppose mat no
one will deny that ihti whole proceeding took piece with
tbe t auction ef the l'reeident, aud upon his reeponsioility.
But. air, to return to ihe bill of Indictment preferred
againtt me by tlie bonorubie member. H? says 1 ttat I
matte a still gi aver and more xenons accusation against
him thai 1 charged biia with inserting a direct false
hood In bin letter to Sir Henry Bui war In the assertion
Bade uton the au .horlty o'C?l. K ng, that the Senate
perfectly under?too1. at tbe time they voted upon the
treaty, that British Honduras waa not included in it aud
that 1 declared to the Sena;e that I bad received from Ool.
King that vtry morning a positive denial of the
Mr. President, It is obvious that there art two
facta involved in thin statement ; an* and muob ths
nioet important 1*, that the Senata knew thS ?<t?,
tfonnpoo*|.]|?itaof C.ntr*l A?,ri.a, bywhichlut
British pr. vino. m. excluded from lta operation Had the
?lui ; ? S!??Si tysasjyKr'as.'sk M?v
1 j"7T g?ographic?i extent, o: Orntral Amni.i ?
'^r1^ ?x"*n" ?5 ??suth.asi
Ki?ass r'-'H?. "A
to i'l"1*' f*il* *r ''' (ellun ef eauld o't ob'hsJ"
fhLt *x?JBiU0" /'urn the c bligatioas of the ?jnven!,i.?n
v Hob cnhil ? S*B?t?r* enter lainej th. Tie* that a
Centi^ Ai,.,ri? f"?**' "i" w<r* ""oout the l>mits of
of aLd tcqci^fce^ in thin c^n.-r' ?* such, kae*
But tr?n It other. U? it U^??.hT? "cluiiyn
that I nevrr had before h?? "tflt^SftiT ??VS
to relisre mjt.lf from tbe imputation 'it w<5?t i "g
i<- J bring upon me warn U ??. i U,J n#c,to*
c. i-iiK',: s ??" o7^?rr ?,r^
tla turtb*.- duty of stating mr^ rttton t"h. fh%d
tb?irielTM, in the face of the couotii a * f4C"
tv,u ^ |S?
other., .a, ,r
ou'-h upre.ioa a* falmhood nor ??? t.,m il-i .
No 39t fttoi bun a right to fmw 1 chtrffH him ?i r ?% * # i
'mpU.s a want of moral principle by such*a
prooee< ing. Toe sources of human error are L nti
and too numerous to exoite surprise by their ..perati'in
or to jt.Ufr imputation by their action wT?re.n
?Ub.e to their effects, from the cradle to the grar. aid
u"J :,vch *fl,r l,ulu m>, bt c .generate into cenoVLl
if doahta aid ontradiotinas necessarily
implied ofle: sire imputation*. I repeat, sir. I male no
charge falsebo< d aga.ast the s?ata? A? ??? aTr
read the letter, and the accompany! ag document* Ida
t. reined to call upon Olonel King to aao?rt?in th.
grouhi' for the asaerion that the ?nat?V?
thla claim to exalud. British Hon ura? from th.sTunU
t.ons of tbe treaty, In order publX aS pomVtU ^
nf'Jh mvrK,fr9m th* cW*e ? P?t?c'p^taf in this Til ?
of tbe obligations cr?at<d by that iu<tium??t I tuaooMt
neither tbe^*nator from Delaware nor any one el?? wiU
call in ijueatloawi v right to pursue his courvn. Well sir
i cid call upon OAoiel King and ta? result <>f that in^r!
"ot repeat, for I coc.xuiijated it t> the
H?iate tbe very day it took plane, at the l?t mIhi.
sesslon Of this bocy. Coltnel gi0< disclaimed alfSi
Ws T!e ,s th? ' *,DV *? ^ S?%te
tu# Tie *n then were p eci-elr wbmt they w?rm it tm
^ J' th? d*clr,cr*tio waAtorg aa reUt^l br tbe
member from Uuiei.na, (Ur. 8?.!0> I nat-d myVwn
S 00BT",|*'J"n I btid had with Cbl Ki g,
IS 1 I ,m?r*. r*f }?' ,b#c?u<? be d-sire J it. .Vow,
S^din^ i* K f U ^ ,dJ, t!l* <J?:orum of thii pro
ending I may fafely ieare my riv ieatiun tj
the g->odaeas? of the country In prcaeedirg to woat
ha c<i isideraa much graver a-cusati,in, .br Senator from
Itelawarr > peaks of tbe charge made again t hiro in eon
M*??0* W??lih tb* '?.lter ?r Mr Kln*' aud th? r -nt?l in it
as Ihoogb I were the i,uih.,r of ue contradi.1 :i?n aaj bui
?or?.r|. Lni v m ,l" ,?ea?J' tha' imp? ? J to me. I
?xpreesly said I di 1 not comi- h-r? to arraiga M- Clar
ton. 1 denied that th. Senate- what-rSr in .ieid/ai
Senator* may have :h' ;i*ht? understood that It-itaah
Horn urae was not ine'uded in tha treaty. I haJ a rig!ft
?CJ* ?f h',M who ?*,er f0T ? mom?n: *n
tertatced such a ?iaw, an1 who would have votel ai ra,n?
tha ra'ifiaation had suoL a su^tioa b^n sXd,
mjin.aintd as tha act if this body Bu'. ai to the I. t
ter n0 agetcy was conWd to rcp.rtiog at bis o<n
requmi my cjavareaUon with 0oiJD^ Kio? ? ^
au.t,? t, th. stater.. eat rented. The ?e? at r saTs !!
..f'th* SIf Mirh *"? <>eela-?d, ia tb. pre , is.
>f th- American Seaa e, hat h? had that terr ny.ruin#
huT^Tna thT" U'lOD lK"'?' "J b'd r,c-ir?i f^oo
hi? rwn lips th. poaitlre det lai of th* a? ertioa " Ti
be sure I d)d Mr I7.eli.nt. and I i,Pe^ 7b. J,
hi ??? ?? prefer ?. ana in the face of th. 8?na*>'
f i. J,' * 'b'n- " '' "l???y true aow
n.(IS? ?.a 0r r," OB '? thl' ? of baity ioipai^
ir.g.tmakea ?is.ala. and mi?auderaUtd Oil Kin* Ai
I am not a n-aa cf baaty impalee, I n?i her mUt xk nor
rniitsi erstiod tn? t.nor of th. c notation and tb?re
i* V'u. t01 ,4k,'h' beneot of tale asi ol jbllrion even
;r: h',;^"d f"r B?? ?? U n t; for tba feaatw
a 1 s that on tlx Sato r day ?ner**iiog. his own Tlodioa
lloa Including a coW ?f c?i. Km?'s i.twr to klm, waa
poblubad to th* paper., wh en I must have saea 'anl it
?ppears, he eomlni.ee. - from tba card of Mr Bra*? a
"f th. otft.r H u?, aud a *ri.od of Mr. Lkt,
publlfbae on thr Tu^day auec?1iBg that >h. honor* J.
K.nator Horn Mlct gan hlm^f, ha,, mm Mr. King
?fter tb. morniog on which he mad. his aecosation and
rewittd fr?a Mr Kings can up. a deaial of th. ?Ut.
merit wblch the Heiator mad. on this :l?r " Mr 1'r.ai
' ,t*,*a?'at ?? u?t*riy l?ler*ib.itiU or retii.r d?
fetsibl. . mr from thai aicitw) state of miad too maov
evidences of ahich w.r. ? by th. 8?aat?r during th.
itTtr" ?t Uragg gir.s not tb. siighi.
? st intimation that I saw t>> ooel K'.ag a sacoadtlnis -nor
? J~".W ID*kM' no 0 '"'""h ? (ircuacanan, nor
te ther, the remo^t suggest*" in hi* l?tt.r tba1. Uo onsl
King : d*Dl,d l? me tbe truth of th. .ta'4.m.nt which I
I kid n?td?. md <j|(5 miJh**, upjo bin "lo^horilr- I
ear. t^heSac.'or froa Delaware to recotcll. his asMr
tion with i tbe Mtn Itaalf Ai a n.stter of fact, I saw
U>ti)i.fl King but mioe, aad^f oou'??, I received fron h m
no *ticb rental aa ailfged I am awar. tha' for a f.w
hour, there was a deelgn rxhibtt.d in c.rtain rii.r er-tj
make 1L- truth 'jf tb?* ? I t"> 'h ? 8#
nat?, a que?tton of ve-aclty, (of my vsracltr ) th ..i?h it
n?v.r ae u n*d a tangldle sbap. H ,w ^ mUl ltt <- J,in.l
. ,* :V'n tb" e,,y' ao<! ejnW *t?DT u nm.it hare c ??
tr dict.d my .t a .aient, if untra', U). n his own aut .ori.
tj. bnt be n.ver dM 10; au1 wer. tbe-e no o?bnr .ildenoe
u: his icqu e* .ace tats .xprarslve .ileace ?
i?eu suffl'i.nt Bnt th.re is more than th;v ( i lu
hrssg. lath. v?ry lener r.r.rr?ri to, says n so nine
?orti ? that -'Colonel Kirg did saj ?bat y.a?r?i o*<, re
pierenlah n. tobsvesai' In bissUt^ment." J
a in atila that ' ( loeel Kf?g s I njuage to m? v?, l!?.?d
y"f ???*?' from
tk. a?t. aethry ac ja-> tail'. " tk.n p-.nael. t' ?
j'sib l? *lev . . t !,<>? a?: .By t with 1.';, .17.
*ioui? flptfc - , and *ajR 1 ' a is t er ' r on' m e l tl*at t..a
f "TJ. *?', *Sr " t ab)w#<l
? sr - ? e- I r*>. .1 j. fi,.. f,,? t.i)e
tad Jurisdietioo of Greet Britain over a oertaln por
tion of Headuraa, shosld be reoogaised by th* United
Statoa,) had been yielded to la ell its extent, in>t*?l of
being abandoned " ke. Now.air.it is not prel?ndel I
had any parucipat on in this mliandanUnd
i"g. Tte "supposed ittUmnt of feet*" m
tbe result of Colonel King's inpnuimi, aad this is <U
n (wUtb * from the drcnmstaooe to which I hsn before
nlluded Whan J *ct? red the roam **ealag th* leter
view with Orlooel King I foond him reading th ? In'tlU
ytneer. whloh eentained the official documents on thui
subject tlwn ja?t pnbli-hed. He wa? quite ill, taoaih
fully abb to converse; but it is no'. pr>b?b a he had ex
amined th* papers with tha af*nti .u ha wjall hara
bestowed upon tham had ha bwn in bstter health Jidf*
Bragg says Colonel King snppoeec th* Br U?h demand of
th* noosottion of title bad t?en jlelded to Most assured
ly h* eonl Oft h?v* reeeiv.d that information from m*.
No stioh demand waa m?de ao far aa I know? our tain It
not* in disci oees* by th* pap-r<? and it ??s therefore an
all* Ration 1 oould i* tk?r mak* nor eontradioi. a* I had
not th? siightaat kn w ledge of tha oiroumitanc* H.rtng
now redeemed myself from anv charge of mlsneiierataiia.
irg ( r mli representing GolooelKing I return to the a.-cu
tattcn i f tha Senator 0 om Dslawa e. He says that after
wards? tkat la, after tb* publication of CiHnel Kicg's
note, and bis den al personally of th* truth of raj state
m*nt? it appears fiom tha earl of Jadje Bragg I
01 me into th* Senate cbauiber and rt Iterated th* a?cu*a
tion Judge Bragg does state that 1 reltera-ei my pre.
vioui assertion, but nothiug mora: but the Ssoator ?ays
It does sot appear by th> debat ss that I did ao In tils
the honorable member la in error. H* will find, by re
ferrlig to the 60tb and 5 1st pages of the volume of the
Ctw^rtuiimal Glote of tk* lait reaaion that I did
expreaelr reiterate what I had aaM before? that Cel. King
made to me the statenunt I gar* to the -Senate. 1 w*anot
responsible for Gui King's accuracy. but I waa responsi
ble for my own ? that is, that Cul King tol-J me what I
?aid he did. And does the Senate au ;por*. because he
pub.i.shed the note of Col King, that, therefore, I waa
precluded frcm defending my own p <sliioii? What I said
on that dav was substantially a repetition of what Col.
Kirg bad told me? that is, a repetition of hi* statement,
and the re assertion that he made it, to defend myeeif
against any imputation of b?l*g its aitbor. aad I added,
aluo, the expression of a onvlction, whieh is as firm now
as then, tnat all be snppssed It was intended by the treaty
to leave to Great Britain, waa a rUht to oat logweod la
Houdnraa, but w.thout any right to fortify or tooolonix*
The declaration repeated by Mr. So air anl a portion
o' the latter of Jud|>e Bragg, ate only to be reconciled by
this supposition "He told me," sai l Judge Bragg, "that
till this day. he supposed the pr.'jeot of accepting
this declaration had been abandoned, aud that
the treaty stood upon Its oen provisions ? that Mr.
IU)U? afier?ard? informed him tba'. the provision had
bren sbaadoaed, and be considered the trea'y ratiled
by the Btitiah govern sen-. precl?ely ui it hvl been rati
fied by the 8enate. '' Cul. King al<o said " he had some
general idea of a claim of England to cut logw. od la
11 ^n> urns, but b* never thought A i.s b-?.ng setup as
th* foundation of a pretention to establish a o il my
tbeie " We have here C >1. Kind's *<?** of ais own
position; aid no man who knetr.liim will diubt bis honor
or h'( patriotibm. Oai c >un'.ry never po?4e<eed a more
honorable citiien, and few havs been more dsep y or
moie justly lamented The explanation given by the
Senator, even If It were correct, does not reach .he
paramtnot the charge? that is, not as to the onder
atuxlogof the Secate, erronejus as his views In tlat
respect were; but that he a we p ted a conditional ratidoa
tiou and gave the impreeaions < f Col King ai his autho
rity for tbe proceedure, thus changing a treaty with >ut
tie kaowledae of the Senate It Is obvl ins that Col.
King never suspeetea even inch a use of his note It waa
evidently a private and tiasty one, not writ en for an offi
cial purpose, and as the "organ" of th? Senate? for
Cc l Kug waa the last man to assume ?uch an inrldbos
disi iootion? andwas to be nsed in toorerrati'jn merely.aud
was written In answer to a le'.ter from Mr Clayton both
bearing the aame *ate la that letter Mr Clayton aska
tbe understanr ing o' th* Senate up<n this point tf ex
clusion. and adds that he wai thai morning writing to
Sir Beary Buleer, (a oopr of which letter we have,)
"and while declining altering the treaty at the time of
exchanging ratifioatiuna," he wishts to leave me groanda
for a charge of duplicity against- our government, and,
theiefore, be " s> all ray t > him iu effect, that such con
struction (the Inclusion of Hoiduraa in the treaty) waa
doi in the o> ntemplation of tbe negotiators or of th*
Senate, at tbe tin e of confirmation " He there asked
permlision of Col King to use his name in making this
statement. The day this letter wai wiitten to ktl King
the letter to Sir Uujry Bulwer, as I have said, was also
written. In that letter the Secretary tolls the British
Mir inter, after ooij- en ting to reeeive the conditional aet
of ra' ificatii n, that of c jurae ao alteration ooak be saade
In the convsntion wiihou. refer: ing th* aame to the
3. nate; "hut I Jo net understand yoi as hiving authority
to propose ai y altera Uoa." Bow the Secretary of S'-ate
could decliue to alter tbe treaty, as he says toCoL King,
when ro alteration waa asktd by the other party, as he
tays toSir Henry Bulwer, it is not very easy to coonp.e
hrnl Certainly, Col. K<ng might well tell Judge Bragg
that till tbe day of their conversation 'he supposed the
tieaty stood upon Its own provisions," aud that " It had
t*en ratified by the British government preolv'y as il
hai been ratified by the Sena'* " I am aware, air, of too
executive message of July 14, 1863, referred to in tha
ieba e, and which expreeaed the viers of tbe President
respectiig the eitont of the obligations ofthe treaty.
Bat neither that met sag > nor aay other document nor
infoitua'loo, so far aa I know, ever made known to the
oountry these strange diplomatic proceedings till taey wart
called out by the leroluiioa of ihe last a?eei >n. To show
the re si spirit which I eariied to tbe discussion, I quote
what I said ca this seoond day: "With respeet
to the letter which Mr. Clayton bas published.
am aot disposed to belier# be did aac rrceie*
u h an one. Be is aa honor ail* man, ml w 'uj<1
??t n aks at eh an e'*ertion uulrns it wars trae "
Bat fir, the document* recently oommamoated by tha
sxecutive in ri-latlou to tbU treat;, di?olote a a a'? of
thing* aorte tban waa aotici,>et?d by its opponent*, cr
apprehended by lb fneo la? a itata of thief a, at man!
(fitted by the claim i o' England, in stnkiag eon'raat ?ich
the viewa eo oon6dantiy expressed b y the Senator f-.m
1 Delaware isrpecUog the true intent and certain opera
tion" and eltarueti o' this treaty, by the exoiuion of
brush lnflusr oe from the Central American regions.
' As to the BiiU'b prot otion In Ueotral Amerioa, aaya
tbe Senator, " it waa, of ooarse, diaarmed by 'he treaty.
lt? tains are too plain to be m?and?r>to.jl i y a ay ON.
Gr?at Britain cannot plaoe an armed soldi- r on :he terri
tory without vllating the treat;." And ar ?r remark
ing, in rela'loa to the p'otaotorata oi r hi Indiana,
" that there if n< thing undefined in tbe treaty on thil
?object," ha *ej* "that all British doxinion* la the
whole of Central America, extern iog an it doea, by 'ha
lie* of tha eaooast, nearly one thousand mil-* Is aiae
doned." Unfortaaately. tha "protection" rema'a < ? that
is the word eaployed in tba treaty, and it is * vail ah <aea
one batter than dominua, as proteotor tai a bettor word
for Cromwell than King, for it admits of about as maah
latitude of lataroretation as tba veriest political onanist
oould desire Toe danator from Delaware, as I gather
from hi* remarks up? a -t.ix subjaot. an ' te which I ahall
again ad rait in preferring "bi' ** pmtec>i?n" Intended
only to preaeiee to f ngland tha light of allordlng obari
table aseUtance and re igioaa itatrualion "to tha
areuihe? Moiquito Ioriana," ard of mediating with tha
local governments wlibtn ? hoe- limits they reside to
prevmt thalr temg ma?*aered by their haraoltary ane
mic*. And ba adininirtete a sever* rebate t j the uieosb |
from Minolt. (Mr. Douglas.) for ai netting that OrwM
Britain has not abandoned any part of toe cjoa'ry, say
irgthathe -'dees not piaaa moeh reliance npon lay
statement he, (the irembevfroai Illinois.) makes on Ula
subject." Bis r?ilai>c? seoms to be upon tha B ttish
Mini, ter, who ?' asiuret na that hia g veruui*nt o ji
observed tbe treaty, and means ta oba?rv* it fai'.hf.illy,"
kc Cold comfort this, Mr Prosuent, for him wno
made thla treaty, or for ns who la geoa faitb adT >oated Its
r tlUcitioD L >rd Clarendon a Ida nis a<aoraoce* to th <?*
(f the Bii'.ist Minister, telling as, with wall meuar?d
Umnlty. that "all these esgagamsnt* Great Britain will
religion a 1; keej," kc.? I snppoae as abe Buds it eoave
tdent to understand ih?m And. really, sir, it wo>l I ap
pear that almost ike only anbatantial point upas which
the understanding of tha negotiation waa clear and ai
tual, ro far as we caa judge from the av wetparp'saa -4
our co-coatractor. wae that Hoedura< aid lt? depeodea
oies should be a cent id from the obligations created by be
language of tbe traa'y Nearly ail ei?e aeeias In tha
op nl:>n of the Bri'uh govarumeni. to fail withi the Oate
sury of "whatever may he Indefinite in it," ae daaerlied
by the British .Secretary of Sta'e whether wi h m <*i sin
cerity or sarcasm it is no part of my task to j-idga, Hal
certainly It la rare in tba Interooorse of natl >n* that an
swaepieg a protest ? for a protest in fact D 1# ? aa that
con'ain>-d ia the letter of Lord Clarendon ag*ia?t tba
construction g.ven by ona par y, of thamatualooligatioM
created by a -reety, comas to threaten the tranquillity ot
the oontractlng powers. We are told by tbe Brtiiah i-o
retary of Stat* for Forsigh Affaire, that " groat misoone*p
tinn appear* to prtrail not only ansong toe people o toe
Uni'ed 8tat*e, but also amoag porsouH pl?e?d in highaa4
reepot alble aitnatioos in thogoTerameol of t oat c <antry?
(?e kcow from the aliusioa to his apeooa, by the Quae's
saeceate, that the Sees tor from Delaware ia am <ag tae?e
mitcinecirets) ? with ngard to tha trn* nature ji xyt
? LuSgemenU into waieh Croat Brilaia en>rel or h
contention of Waahlagtoa of April 19. lliO
aitt respect to her preaant ant rutare rel? "ta
with Mr*qalto anu the other na'.lome of Uaotrai Amari -a?
(th> Intiian Chief aed hie flee hnnired folUwars *>aee
to* become a ' nation" of Central Aumriia) ? aud as Mai
D,?s:obcept<on. I' not ImmeJiataiy vrreoted m gh lead
to **r oui mi?uod?mtandiog between H"a '. B.-itai- aai
tbe Ucied aa'ee," be therafore 'thinks It hi<oly de
sirable that toat qo-stloo (lixauld witooot <!eU< b vu
ii (on its right footing, by a clear aad di?t<ost ex,? ejec<?a
of the eiawa which Her Msjoty's goeorn eat lake< of t
aid of the condant whi h 'hey Intone u purau* w to r
rard to it " And we caeim-. accuse h n. of any re-'**
cation, for he U Its us pretty elesr.y wbai tha Hntiei
government will do and what they w m't do Titer wtli
b< 1.1 >u to all th<-ir pretenstoaa. and they will at. saor<
lioe their Interest to our nsiaeonnep Ion? or ie o oer
eon's, to our con?trnelioo of the Tea y. Bit, sir, I d.
lire not to be misendersto?d I dure neither to oi?
reprsienlthe Sena or frum Delaware, n.ir to dep-eciate
his labor, wh?b 1 aioc?rely b?lieee he ue ertojk eita
tbe meat patriotic inveatioiw. t?r >mios ois hut an! ra
sponsible pneitlon 1 earoes ly n padiau? as eaineeWy aa
ae can ? '.he oonstiu>; i n ?ir-n to tbe treaty bi to*
Biitiab goeeinment mu'la of ehirh la oppoeml to ila tai
gaage. and much more U> its spirit. An.: I th at a evy
bri?f review of the oiratinatances w 1. eatallisa sot oe y
the trne rhjaet of tbie nonv -01100 but thw utter Ineam
pttlbilt't or tbe British nreteoaion *uh tna av iwed par
p?>e*a of tbe parties But brfcre <loiog sj. It eeems oa
oestary to look bark to tn* aoqu'siti -n of ?ea?a po -ee
si?a?, and to soatraat ?h? esrly oireu.natan ea undar
ahith th?y ware mad*, wi h toe osture a?d sx'.ent of 'ha
prrtantcam. n-jt ouly b?*ause thi- iof ?rmatioa la iin
por'ant to a luat eoasi-lHraiioa of the Bri'ish Utla, but
b*cau*e tt>? history >s aio^u'a iy lliusirst vs of tha pol cy
o' F' gland br which aba has aroireled the wur d wt.o
bfr ccloniaa ai.4 al<o beeauss the tenant*? p-ittnaii-y,
ii, reed? with which she ba adhered to th-se ieg. .n... 1*
tbe face of the m .at e?l?m . eaga??meaU, ba- be a
rs'?ii squalled in tba prfgr-a?of uationai fiwr.
The plratUal enterprises ajaijit tbe J|-ao ih p.astra -<aa
in Ameriffc having been pu aa eod t>. sonxa of ta- al
ventuieia meda an ea'ab.lah^-n. at ta* Uei>?? rver lor
the pofposattt tutting ma'ioranT an.1 dyawoo l?, *o a ma
laat ia that ragV?. thiaAaaeteneroK-im/n uj-on tha
rgnta o' t^pam led to tuttcnl lea b '.?een h>r aad Knf
land. and wae obo of tb* oana?a of thowarofi7.il> Tie
f rat ree.'gi itien of tt-U I f it by Spava (a to b* fonidia
Uia treaty ?' \TA, aith land, which prov'ed that
. f rt fsattcvteb -h tha had -re "
, I'.. , o' lloid .ra .
i <b '.hat cf the arir.4, im uai b?aj- h- -
I r "3?tl>* , ti'i 'bi? ?&W)?jg-ivua,aisct M?*?dithf t

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