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TWO TERMS mm. The Herald at the Political Springs of the Quaker Cit j. Morton McMichael's Views of Grant and Perpetual Power. .HINTS *'UK KhTUiii-iiUANS. John Forney's Hopes that Common Hirse Sense Will Prevail. Jefferson's Theory of Monarchs and Emperors. PENNSYLVANIA'S LEAD. A. K. McClure's Brief but Practical Observations. A denomination in '76, and Then Look Ont fnr Snnalls. Philadelphia, Sept. 7, 1873. Probably no subject of late In which the interests of the country have been a feature has created such profound attention among tbe masses as has that of "Oicsarlsm." The simple Idea of a third term, with General Grant acting In the rCle of a Csesur, has awukencd a train of reflection among the members of both political parties that will undoubtedly in time make itsell felt lor good or for evil throaghout the country. The theme becomes more interesting day by day over here, as the views of the leading men of the nation are made dear through the columns of the IIehald. Views of Mr. Morton McMlohael. In obedience to Instructions, your correspondent sought and obtained the views on this subject of three Quaker City representative men. The first whom he saw waB Mr. Morton McMlcbael, editor of the North American arul United States Gazette, and President of that most powerful organization, tbe Philadelphia Union League. His wellknown warm personal trlendshlp towards President Grant led the IIbrald representative to believe . jthat Mr. McMlcbael was prepared to Bay something hi relation to Ciesarism that would prove exceedingly interesting. In this be was not entirely mis ihcu. ne reoeiveu me currespuuuuiii. pouiciy una then reBumed his editorial chair. Beloro commencing the conversation your corrcspendent round time to obtain material for a short pen and Ink sketch of the venerable Journalist. In appearance he is about sixty years or age, wore a suit of dark blue flannel cloth and is of a short, stoutlsh build. Ills head Is large and is well shaped and is partly covered with short gray hair, while bts eyes are deep set arnrt arc of a darkish blue; his grayish mustache was trimmed a la milUaire, and upon Che whole he bears a striking resemblance to exPresident Thiers, which would be the more complete did Mr. McMicbuel resort to the use of spectacles. Ills trim and coscy looking sanctum Is on the second floor or the North American ana Unitea States Gazette building, on Third street, and was well filled with valuable books of reference and the leading period!- \ cals of the day. Upon being informed that the Kiekald representative had called to ascertain his views on the subject of the third term Mr. McMlchael at first exhibited a little hesitation, but gradually became more communicative. In relation to that subject matter he said"My dear sir, 1 have read with considerable Interest the Hebald articles and have expressed my views on the subject In my own paper; my candid opinion is that neither General Grant nor tne great mass of the re publican party seriously entertain trie idea or a third term. Hut in case It should be requisite for the ofllce of Chief Magistrate to be tilled thrice by any Individual and General Grant should be that j man I have no doubt bat that be would prove true < to his trust." Correspondent?What, In your opinion, would such a precedent lead to ? Do you not think that It I would gradually lead to the subversion or republicanism in this country? Mr. McMicuaBL?No. sir, not a bit of It. The republicans do not desire to Inaugurate the third term system, and in iny opinion they would do but little towards aiding In such an object unless the party was in danger of being disrupted, and it became necessary to run for a third term a man whose prestige would save It. The people, sir, are superior to politicians or to any combinations of men to do harm. As regards Cicaarism, 1 do not besitate to say that should General Grant be elected ^Jor a third term, he would scorn to do anything that would tend to bring disgrace upon the country or upon himself by the usurpation of powers not constitutionally conferred upon him. Ctesartsm will net be attempted In this country, at least In my day; and should It bo essayed at any future time the party who attempts to play the rftle will suffer. The people are too intelligent for such a thing to be tolerated. Correspondent?-Do yon think that the republicans throughout the country would support General Grant lor a third term? Mr. McMiuiael?I see no reason why they should withhold their suffrage irom him lu case of such an event. His administrations have been characterized with ableness and statesmanship, and I know that he would Strive to do right il placed in office again. General Grant, however, has no idea, as lai as I atn ubie to ascertain, to run again. He is full of honors already, and, furthermore, desires rest, and I think it not unlikely that he will visit Knroi>e upon the expiration of the second term. Besides, there are other honest and patriotic republicans thai can be found for the office. con respondent?Would you support him with your journal should he run a third time! Mr. McMicharc?I am a republican by conviction aud atn uo partizan. 1 ha ve no obligations beyond my own convictions of what Is right. If I deemed it lor the Interests ot the country I should advocate the cause of a third term candidate, and abould support General Grant it nominated. There constitute in the main Mr. McMichaeFs views on these important national topics, and, alter thanking hliu for hts kindness, jour correspondent retired. Colonel Forney, of ?he ?Pre??." Immediately afterwards I sought the editorial latr of Colonel John W. Forney, of the Press. This consisted of a large and elegantly rumished churntier on the second floor of the Press building, corner of Chestnut and Seventh streets. Mr. Forney was found pnOlug briskly at a fragrant Havana and overhauling an address which he contemplates delivering at the Texas state Fair. He received the IlBRAhD representative with his accustomed urbanity, bnt regretted that his time was so urgent that he could not then enter into the subject of Ca'sarism, but would be at leisure later in the | afternoon. At three o'clock P. M. I called again. Ue was there, and the subject matter was discussed. Colonel Forney said that he did not know a republican in Pennsylvania who favored tne idea of a third term, and every one who had spoken to him on the subject, had either regarded It as one ut the llKKALD d excellent newspaper novelties, or liifl denounced It as a dangerous precedent. He said that ne had the highest personal ana political regard (or President Grant; that be thought that It the President possessed any special quality It was common sense, or, as tne sportsmen aay, "horse sense." lie recollected that in KovemDer of l*>;7 General Grant was honestly averse to becoming a randidate for President, In view of all the necessary sacrifices and troubles, and much thai General Grant predicted then as a consequence oi his acceptance of the Preaidency has Wn luhnied to the letter. "Now, I i??iieve," resumed the Colonel, "that If Oram was to join this movement tor a third terra it would create snch an uproar ta wonlrt utterly destroy hts fame, and therefore I Joined the veteran republican editor or the iffners' journal in calling upon the republican press to place the seal i 01 condemnation upon this third term movement I at once, Aftd Baanaa 1* a Aria friend gf ura^t, i 1 fTKW YORK HI repeat that I do not think Genera) Grant Is Insensible to this state ol public opluion. Like all men In lugh oltlce, he is surrounded by flatterers; yet I am sure he Is capable ot divining their motive*. They will come to him and say that tue democratic party Is utterly demoralized, and that anything recommended by the republican leaders will be approved by the republican party and made good at the election; aud they will tell him, what 1b true, that the people are irratttled lor hie aervloea against the rebellion and that his administration has been marvellously successful. But the Pre?! dent Is too careful an observer not to understand the effect ef such an example. A third term project would awtitly stimulate the very worst posslble feelings. It would be as much as to say to the struggling people of the Old World that America la preparing for a monarchy. It would confirm Frank Blair's prediction In 1868 that General Grant Intended to perpetuate himself. It would Bbow that Thomas Jefferson, when he wrote to General Washington from Paris, on tho 2d day of May, 1788, was correct when he declared that the two things in the new constitution which he disliked strongly were:?'First, the want of a declaration of rights. I am In hopes the opposition in Virginia will remedy this and produce such a declaration. Second, the perpetual re-eliglblllty of the President. This. 1 lear, will make that an office for lire first and then hereditnry. 1 was sncli an enemy to monarchies before 1 came to Kurope, I am ten thousand times more so since I have seen what they are. There is scarcely an evil known In these countries which may not be traced to their kmg as Its source, nor a good which is not derived from the small fibres of republicanism existing among them. I can further say with safety that there Is not a crowned bead in Europe whose talents or merits would ontltle him to be elected a vestryman by the people of any parish in America.1 "But, after all, I do not believe," said the Colonel, In conclusion, "that there is any serious Intention in any quarter in regard to this third term. It certainly has made no impression unon the people of this State; as a general thing, they are satisfied. They do not desire to imperil their Interests by such an excitement as would certainly follow any uttempt like this third term. There is already so much jealousy, so much dread of the growing strength of capital, that a serious movement in favor of political centralization would undoubtedly organize a combination that would bocome Irresistible. Tne mission of tbe republican party Is not yet over, but those who wish to see It closed in oue grand catastrophe have only to per Beverc In making that sertous which 1b now regarded by patriotic men everywhere as a first rate newspaper sensation and as a capital text lor the democratic journals, which, lacking all fair subjects for discussion and having no great principles to contend for. are wnltlnor to collect enomrh material to build a new platlorm from winch to start on a now campaign." 1 Colonel McClure on the Subject. The next gentleman of prominence interviewed on Csesarisiu was Senator Aleck K. McClure, tno Chairman of the Liberal Republican State Committee. and one of the leading political luminaries of Philadelphia and of the State. 4?They all know Aleclt," Is the saying over here. He was found absolved in his professional work, in South Sixth street, bat be courteously responded to oar request for his views on Caesarism and the political situation generally. Senator McClure Is still In the prime of life?not over forty-five years of ageevidently positive and self-reliant, and looks as if be might outlive General Grant and Senator Cameron and have years of usefulness yet In store for him. I began the work thus :? Correspondent?I am Instructed by the Herald to get your views of the third term question. Senator McClure?Certainly. I have no views to conceal. 1 have read with care and much interest, not ouly the able editorials of the Herald on "Cicsurlsm," but also the views of prominent men as reported by correspondents. 1 have no fear of Ciesarlsm; wc have no Crcsar. No student of Roman history will expect the history of Cmsar to be repeated In General Grant. Correspondent?1>o yon anticipate an effort to elect General Grant lor a third term f Senator McClure?I doubt whether a serious effort will be made to renominate Generul Grant. He may, aud 1 think does, look upon his election to the third term as probable; but he Is not a fool, and he will see before the time comes that he cannot be elected, and he will d? as he did with the St. Domingo swindle?back out when he can't go through, lie thinks and understands better than either his superserviecable frieuds or most of his enemies give him credit Tor, and I feel confident that be won't be a candidate In 1S7?. He believed that his personal strength saved the contest in this State last lull. The ballot stutters who managed his cause and exacted exorbitant tribute from bia respectable and wealthy friends know better. Any republican statesman of lair standing equally acceptable to the business and financial Interests ot the country would have been stronger than Grant. in juiy ne wouiu nave ueen uauiy neuteu; nui, 1 however unjust it was, the lact is palpable that 1 commerce, finance and our manulacturers regarded their Interests as endangered, and they exhausted themselves to re-elect Grant. I have no doubt that the men Immediately aboat Grant flatter lum with the hope of a third term, j Cameron promised a re-election to Johnson as long as be had an office to sell or a contract to bargain away or old clothes ol any kind to part among his followers, and he will, of course, promise Grant a third and fourth term If the promise Is agreeable to the President. Moseby will do the same until all his guerilla command are provided for, and Pat- ? terson. of South Carolina, will do the same. As 1 this class of men are nearest the throne the atmos- I phere immediately about the President will strongly savor or as many terms as (j Grant wants. These men seem to have d power now. They were carried op like drift wood 0 Cn the flood of last year; but when they proffer h power for a third term they are only outwardly Imitating the one of old who said, "All these will I give thee." Long before a Presidential nomination Is made for 1878 Cameron will be dethroned in this Stale, Patterson will most likely be serving the public elsewhere, aud Moseby will be worshipping the rising rather than the setting sun. The Murphys, tlie Butlers, the Kelloggs, the lloldens and the camp followers generally will all be looking for the coming new man. Grant's apparent strength to-day has Its origin mainly In the supreme folly of the remnant of the democratic partv. its relapse In New York, Pennsylvania and Ohio into the brambles and swampa where it floundered In ficrpetual defeat for nearly half a generation, eaves no logical and hopeful organization opposed to Grant. Either that party was Insincere last year or it is Insincere now, and in either case It will seek popular confidence In vain. Had people's i-uiflvi'iiwuus uuuji uancu iu 111c Kicai* raiuuit* rumen ' on a liberal, advanced platform, looking to State 1 regulation, part of tbe work ot 1876 would have 1 been done this year. But with bliud adherence to ' tbe democratic organization, when it cannot win < a Northern State and ita name la unknown In the Southern states, the folly of the movement must * be apparent to every reflecting mind. ' Correspondent?What is tbe future of politics in ' your State ? senator McCLrRE?The liberal organization was | an expedient. It lailed, and now, with democracy, belongs to the rubbish of the past. But that inaugurated at Cincinnati aud the principles there declared will command the earnest approval of a large majority of tne people ol this State ami of the Union before the next Presidential election. I see no hope for any change In Pennsylvania this year, onr Constitutional Convention lailed to discharge its duty or we should have had repeatiug and ballot stalling broken up. This fall there will be no restraint upon those who run elections by machinery, aud of course they will win. Our respectable men pay the crushing taxes Imposed on us by dishonest rule in this city and also pay the meney necessary to debauch our electious and keep corrupt men In power. But they are growing weary ot it. By and br it will be deemed more respectable to be for henesty in our administration than to follow party blindly, aud then our respectable people will be honest. Next year we have Congressmen to elect, u Logls- | lature that la to choose a United States senator, and onr city will have its centennial Mayor to select. 1 look conildently for the adoption ol our new constitution and the overthrow of iruud upon the ballot. Then this State will be 60,000 against the present republican rule, and then Cameron will be shorn of his power, and then Grant will be wi?e enough to decline. When Pennsylvania swings out of the Grant line, as it ccrtaiily will, modern Cxrarlsm will be unneard of thereafter. PRESS OPINIONS. [From the Richmond Dispatch.] CAEKARISM?THE SOUTH. The Nf.w Yobs Ukkalu has succeeded very well In Its exertions to raise a discussion of Cscsarism. Tne clever editor or the New York Commercial Adoertigtr credited the Herald for shrewdness In getting up the discussion to fill up a dull period with a sensation to the advantage of the Herald, whlchhe said was an old stratag em with the Herald. But, nevertheless, the Herald has something solid to go upon, and has succeeded In calling public attention to the subject. It has brought all 8ha<lCB of omnlon to bear upon the question. And It is quite amusing to see how many different views have been made tributary to the discussion ifrst?We have those who regard the question of Cesarlsm as absurd. They go on to say why it Is absurd, but nevertheless discus* it. And we venture tbe opinion that the mere discussion of it shows that this country has taken a step towards Oesarism. As In the case of vice, It is only a stage from the discussion to the embrace. One saya the country has no inclination for a Ihrsar, another that If it had there U lie man to make a Cwsar of, Oeueral Grant being totally unfit to become one. &con&? We have the republicans, who deride thetdea of Caasartsm and also the idea that Oeneral Grant wants to be President for a third term; But, nevertneieHs, uiej buj ?cun?i >u, ,u?j *> President for a third term and yet not be a Ca nar. Indeed, they say that tf the republican party abuiU4 flnM that u can beat WlVBBC# >matwe?Mv ERALD, THURSDAY, SEP': and avoid the dangers of the rival claims of determined aspirants oy electing General Grant for a third term the republican party will re-elect him, and they tuuv do so without violating the constitution and without Installing a Craar. Third?A portion of the republican party?mainly the ofllce-holders and their friends? who frankly confess that they are in lavor of re electing President Grant for a third term, because they think it best lor the country (unquestionably it is best for thnmualvAul and la nnt in vinlatinn nf tha nmstl tut ion. indeed, tney boldly declare that General Grant might be re-elected periodically for the remainder ot hie life and no harm come to the country or the republican party. Exactly. This is good, and It la well for the conutry to know as much. Such was not the Idea of republicans of 1H00. Fourth?'There Is a small party ofgentlemen which belong to the late ultra Southerners?the fireeaters?which proclaim that Grant Is all right, and that he is the best man lor the South and the North and tor all quarters of the Union, and it Soes for.his re-election. Why shouldn't he he Prestent lour years more t It asxs. The constitution does not prohibit his re-election every four years as long us he lives, and if he buus the country it is better to elect him than to ran the risk of trying another man. These virtuous gentlemen, like Mlcawber, are looking for something to torn up not Injurious to themselves. Fifth?And to tins class we belong?a class altogether independent 01 those above named?a brief class of American citizens who declare that if we can restore the government to lte constitutional basis, nnd secure Its administration In an Impartial manner, according to the constitution, by which the Btates shall he left to manage their local mutters according to their own ideas and dispositions under the right guaranteed to tliem by the conititution, they utterly repudiate alike a third term inu also Ctesarlsm, towards which a third term s a great stride. But these same unselfish and patriotic citizens? patriotic locally and nationally alike?declare that 1 we aro not to live under this hs.nniiv-rpsf.ored institutional government?if the bigoted fanatics mil the sordid partisans of the North are to be per* intted ad libitum to persecute the people of a treat section of this Union through the federal government?to abrogate alike all State rud personal rights in that large section and to teep its inhabitants In perpetual tear of some jut rage that is to disturb their peace, separate Lhem irom their families, destroy their business, br, yet worse, to submit their states to the rule or barbarism and themselves to the terrible oppresiioiiH oi intolerable burdens and wrongs, to resist which they arc deprived ol all power; why, In that :osc, it matters not who rules or what beco ues of the government. Clearly, the people thuB oppressed would have more to hope Irom the "one-man" power than they can hope lor from a government which had become the mere Instrument of a bigoted, sordid and malignant sectional public sentiment. On these grounds they would hall the smperor, and would oe Justitlcd In so doing. We do not overstate the case. The " reconstruction" measures which, we are given to understand by the pious republican candidate for Governor were ordained by llcaveu, were ihe most heartless and treacherous that were ever adopted by a civilized government. Our white fellow-citizens bf the North, through the lederal government, inferred tho right to vote and entire political squulity with their white fellow citizens of the bouth upon the negroes?the late siavcB of tho bouth?who were utterly iucouipetent to exercise the rights given them. The act was one that for \ long time had been hinted at und indignantly leu led by republicans. It was received by the party 1q power with a "hush I" It was t thing not to be talked about. It was a treat wrong that must be approached backwards and with a covering to throw bver it. It was a contemplated murder of the blackest grade, and not to be whispered. Yet it was perpetrated; and, as when Duncan and his lousehold were assassinated the bloody daggers were left upon their bodies to show that they did ;he deed themselves, so were the people of the -outh accused or having made the measure neceswry. The ballot was proclaimed as necessary for die protection of the negro (how tnlamously alseT); and, following up this Idea, laws were bussed which upou their face proclaimed distrust )l the white man and placed uini at the mercy of ;hc federal oitlcials, backed by the army aiid navy. I'hey were liable to arrest on tho most frivolous iretexts, to trial by prejudiced juries, to convic;lou upon ex parte testimony, and to lmprlsoumeiit ar from home?anywhere where the lederal execitlve chose to send them. iii n un i hit rciKU ?i u i rur. iiic iiuu nan micu vith appreliensicru. The people could Imagine oo iisit to such wrongs heaped upon them by a govirnment to which it had submitted, and which It irdently desired to inuke as lair, as prosperous ind us powermi as possible. But what was the course of their Northern lellow ilttzens r Election alter election lollowed, and till the wrougs were approved and the oppresilons contiuued. The negro was placed in the as:endent In several of the most prosperous States if the south, and their governments were adralnstered to a manner so oppressive, so wastelnl and itshoncst that the wonder Is how it could poBalbly je permitted in a land claiming to be civilized, riie white Inhabitants of those States were helpless, and, Instead of being relieved from the terrible government winch their Northern fellow citizens had given them, the ledcral government strengthened the hands of barbarism and corruption and showed no pity for the white victims who were as rehncd and as Intelligent and as |uat as any people on the face of Uod's earth. Now. then, we say, and we believe every Southern man will say, if the federal representative governneut is to be used by a controlling section of this no in thus to oppress another section in a manner it war with right, with good policy, with humanity ind civilization, then In Qoa'a name give us an tmperor. If he is good he will be Impartially so. f he Is bad he will be equally Impartial in the disicnsation 01 bis vicious policies. Ills Impartiality n either case would tend to harmony and union imoug the people. They wonld soon learn to unlerstand the light of all to the equal distribution >f heneiits, and tr, on the other hand, we had a irutal tyrant to obey, the consolation wonld he liw citizens shared ttielr late ana would be united rltli thetn alike in sorrow and in resistance to yranny should resistance be resorted to. II, however, our lellow citizens who hare so vronced their own characters and so outraged the (onstuutlon in approvlug onr oppressions may he ed te repent and struggle for the re-establisliuient if the constitution, we of the iSooth will cry, 'Away with C&'sarism! Up with the constitution 1 LJbcrty and the constitution forever I" But let us say that the calm talk abont a third ;erm of General Grant among the republicans tertalnly offers poor encouragement to the hope or this nappy revolution of Northern public sentlnent. True, the constitution authorizes the third )r the fourth or the fifth term forioneuian; but >ur forefathers considered the long continuance of >ue man in power at the head of the government u> dangerous that no man to this day has ever tared to go beyond the second term, and, Jroin 1H24 to the present day.lt has been tr?c declared yolley of all parlies that the Presidential office should be limited to one term of four years for eacD >fIts occupants. When a country forgets the virtues and the lsages of its lathers it is in a had way, and we do tot think the waruing of the Hkkalu out of place. The Ides of March remember." [From the Troy Dally Whig (administration), An gust 2>i.) It is not necessary to go over Grant's lire to show :hat he is not and has not been a Ciesar. Ho is rcry unlike Casar. We might draw out a comparllon and show that Grant does not belong to an >ld and aristocratic famly; that he was not rained In civil affairs; that he lived a qniet and >bscuro life until he was called from his retirement :o take a part In the war; that, unlike Caesar, he Is sot a scholar nor an orator, nor a politician practiced in all the arts of the demagogue; he has not had rivals at the head of armies, nil striving to obtain the supreme power. When he had beaten Lee he disbanded the rebel legions, and be led his victorious troops to Washington, not to usurp the government, but to dismiss them and return them to their homes and shops and the arts oi pence. The tnlted States have m> resemblance to Home. They are not a city that has warred against and destroyed others. They do not hold the world in subjection by armed legions commanded by consuls and proconsuls. Tney have no armies; they have no great aristocratic families, nrond nf their descent and accustomed to exercise all the civil and mllltar* offices of the nation. Our government is a representative system, entirely diiTcrent from toe concentration of power In tue Komsn Senate. There is nothing In the condition of the I'nited States of which a Ciesar could take advantage, even If we had a nan with all the intellectual qualities of a Casar and all the ambition of a Napoleon. [From the Pottsvllle (Pa.) Miners' Journal, (administration), August ai.) The New York IJkkaLD started the Idea of a third terra for the purpose of creating a sensation and to damage the republican party. In order to settle this question It Is the doty of the republican press, who really desire the succeaa of republican principles, and are not the mere puppets of office-holders, to plant the seal of condemnation on this project at once. We, ror one, win uot support (ienerai Grant for any other President for a third term. W'e arc decidedly in favor of amending the constitution so as to tlx a single t-crm of six years lor the President to serve. [From Ike Keokuk (Iowa) date City.] Accepting tin elective office osar huAverted the liltertlen of Home, changing It from a republic to an empire. The Niw Yoke IIkrai.p professes to be afraid of two things?ilrst, that Grant wants A third term of the Presidency; second, that, although this Is not at variance with the constitution, It would tend to Cs sarUm?It would establish one man power In this country. Having got the opinions of about all the newspapers or the country on the subject. It has sent reporters to ascertain the personal views of leading editor* In the lour cities of New York, Cincinnati. Chicago and Richmond, Va. While we think the Hkkald in all this Is Inspired by no more serious alarm or purpose than a desire to advertise itself, yet the result of these interviews Is very readable. ["EMBER n, 1873.?QTJABRI THE COURTS. THE RAILROAD BOND FORGERIES. luiitiiiuauun oi Argument oy counsel ior Bail?Affidavit of the Aeeaied Yates? The Case To Be Besomed To-Day. PRESEHTMENT 8T TEE GRAND JURY. War Declared Against the Street Stands? A Haid After the Curb Stone Venders?Great Noise and Little Wool. BUSINESS IN THE OTHER COURTS. Commissions for street and park openings are becoming an expensive featnre of our municipal government. Within the past few days applications have been made In Supreme Conrt Chambers lor mandamuses against the Comptroller to pay two sets of Commissioners?one for the extension of Madison avenue and the other for opening 110th street. A similar application was made In the same Court yesterday, before Judge Fancher, to compel payment of $5,ooo each to Messrs. Trapbagen, McClave and Seaman, the Boulevard Commissioners. Mr. Hogg, the clerk, also seeks to be paid a like sum. An alternative writ was granted, and the same will come up for argument on Mondav next. The Grand Jury of the Oyer and Terminer, as will be seen by the report below, have made a presentment against curbstone venders et id omne genus, excepting, however, the curbstone brokers who ply their vocation about Wall street. It remains to be seen whether more will come of It than from similar presentments by lormer grand juries. The case of Johnston and Vates, charged with being concerned in the alleged lorgcrles ol New York Central Kaliroad bonds, seems to be set down regularly as part of the day's programme in the Court of Oyer and Terminer. Arguments upon application lor their release ou bail were to have been heard yesterday, but as tlio Grand Jury have not yet brought in the promised additional Indictment against them, the same, for the convenience 01 the District Attorney, was postponed till to-day. Meantime the statement of Mr. Yntes was presented in the form of an affidavit, and will be found in the report of the case elsewhere. THE RAILROAD BOND FORGERIES. Another Postponement of the Ball Question In the Case of Johnston and Yates?Statement of Yates. The case of James W. Johnston and Joseph J. Yates, charged with being concerned in the recent forgeries of New York Central and other railroad bouds, was np again yesterday belore Judge Paucher in the Court of Oyer and Terminer. Ex' Mayor A. Oakey llall and Win. P. Howe, the counsel for the accused, were promptly on hand and announced their readiness to proceed with the argument upon the motion previonsly made to admit the accused to ball. Assistant District Attorney Allen said that the Grand Jury bad not yet brought in the additional Indictments against the prisoners, as he anticipated they would do, and that until these lutther indictments were presented he would not be ready to argue the motion, and, tberetore, asked the delay of another day. Both Mr. Hall and Mr. Howe expressed their willingness to wait, as betore they proceeded on their Hide they desired to get all me tacts on the other side. An adjournment of the argument accordingly took place till this morning. Meantime Mr. Hall read the affidavit of Mr. Johnston, as published in yesterday's Hkkai.d, and Mr. Howe read the following affidavit of Mr. Yates, embodying ills statement of the accusation against him:? affidavit of mr. titss. Oity arut of tfetb York, h*.?Joseph J. Yates, being duly sworn, deposes and suys:?I am a citizen ol the United States, and have been a resident of the city ol New York for the last twenty-two years past. I am in reputable business, and have been employed up to the very hour of ray arrest by J. F. Clark, brush manufacturer, of ltd and U2 Kesde street, in the city of New York. In the capacity of boi kkeuper and cashier. I hereby solemnly declare and affirm that I never had any connection in any way, manner or shape with lorged bonds of New York Central Ksilrnd, New York. Buffalo and Erie Railroad, or forced bonds of any kind whatever. I am innocent of any offence, and here Insist that I have never committed any crime whictt will justify the imprisonment I am now undergoing. I protest that I ain now illegally, unjustly and cruelly de prived of my liberty without a hearing, having been taken from mv family and confined In l'ollce Iieaui|uarter? for three days, without permission to communicate with either wiffe or counsel, and then next informed that indictments had been filed against me on charges of forgery, which cannot be sustained by evidence and which will not bear the probe of investigation. I demand, as a citizen of the United States, my constitutional right of an immediate trial. I sin innocent of the commission of the offence tor which I am Indicted, and 1 desire to meet my accusers face to face. My further detention will be a cruel wrong, and I demand, aaau act ol Justice, that the District Attorney at once place me on trial or release me on bail. JOSEPH J. YATES. Sworn to belore me. this 10th day of reptember. 1873. Thomas F. Qilkoy, Notary Public. In the case of Johnston, Mr. Hall announced that he would call, us one oi his first witnesses, Mr. August E. Banks, broker, of Mo. 5 New street, the principal witness lor the prosecution. WAR WAGED ON STREET STANDS. Important Presentment by the Grand Jury?Afier the Curb Stone Venders? O.?1 n..llas?a iaalsi.t All B??a. Street Obstacles. The Grand Jury of the Court of Oyer and Terminer, not content with their Inquisitorial researches, which they have pursned with a most commendable spirit of unflagging zeal as to the guilt or innocence of persons charged with crime, have instituted particular inquiries as to the subject of street nuisances in general. On the assembling ol the Court yesterday morning, Judge Fanctier on the bench, they made the following presentment on the subject of street obstacles:? a tkkkihlb presentment. (ji;an d Jury Room, Sept 8, 1873. To the Honorable Judge op the Court of Over and Terminer:? The Grand Inquest, now In session, respectfully presents us a nuisance various streets in tuls city, ah regards the neglect or those having them in charge In the sevrral matters of paving, repairs of pavements, encnmbrances permitted therein and the injuries to private property as well as the health and comfort of the public at large. The recent action of the Board of Health in clearing away the pestilent structures immediately around the marEets is of great beneflt; but the continued occupation of the sidewmlu around the marEets, blockading travel of loot passengers, and the use of the same for the sale o( articles heterogeneous to the object of a market as au emporium of food, should be abolished. The sale ol ready made clothing, shoes, stockings and woodenware, tinware, crockery aud earthenware, as Is earned on on the Washington street sidewalk of Washington Market, and the occupation of Vesey and Fulton streets for a long distance approaching thereto?the display 01 the greater part of the owners' stock either on the sidewalk or pendant from the sheds built over it?are serious Impediment* to the use of the streets t>? the public, for the private benefit of parties without right to the same. Another constantly increasing Invasion of the public rights la made by the news and fruit stands, planted, without the slightest regard to public convenience, wherever a spot suited to trade presents Itself to their owners. on the east corners of Broadway and Fulton street newspaper stands are maintained, which (though perhaps located to the ver.v verge of the owners'property), attract and continually detain a crowd of persons on the sidewalk either to view the pictorials displayed or as purchasers, where the immense amount of travel requires even more tnaa uow exists ot sidewalk. on tne corner of Dey street and Broadway, where the Western Onion Telegraph Company's building Is going up, a fence, tor protection, is is placed, cutting on the view of persons coming down Broadway irom what may be oomlng up Hey street, and an individual baa settled himself with a fruit stand on the only spot which Is left for saiety to foot passengers who may arrive at the corner just at ibe moment that any loaded vehicle coming up Dey street may compel him to torn to save himself from being run over or crushed. In Fine street, near Brnadwav, parties are vsndlng fruit irom stalls or hand carts on the sidewaitr lesYimr a nasHsirewav to the nabllO Of three feet wide, with a falrohaoce uf Calling Into the adjoining cellars when more than two persona meet at that paint. These are singled oat as examples of impositions on the public. The long array of empty track carts and other abides tnronghont the streets, standing ont always at night and often in the day, U another abuse of the nubile streets, to save the owners the ront ol a proper storage place for their property. The condition of the Daring ox many of the streets yr */r J r * X V ' TPTT? emrcffi* J J. AJW UU?i?JX? and avenues calls for severe terms of reproach and condemnation of those having them in charge? dungeroos to vehicles und their occupants by the holes and nits, and to the health of the neighborhood by the natural consequences of accumulations of filth and moisture which the usual methods of street cleaning cannot obviate or remove. Respectfully, c. D. P. FIELD, Foreman. Isaac Hendeick, Secretary. " BUSINESS IN THE OTHER COURTS. SUPREME COURT?CHAMBERS. Decision. By Judge Faneher. Llntbcum vs. Budsou.?Give a notice of settlement of this order; serve a copy of the order. SUPER! CR COURT?CHAMBERS. Decisions* By Justice Van Vorst. Wood vs. Coar.?Motion grunted. Degramu vs. Kerrigan.?Order granted. The (iermuula Hauk vs. Hewitt.?order granted. Church vb. McCartney.?Motion to reduce ball granted. Flna vs. Allen.?Decree of foreclosure granted. MARINE COURT-PART L Can a Man Take His Stolen Property Wherever He Plnds It* Before Judge Curtis. John Mathews vs. John 0. Welch.?This was an action of replevin brought unuer the following circumstances The plaintiff loaned to one Hooley a sum of money, and received in -eturn, as security, a gold watch of the value of $'J60. One Currer, an agent of plaintiff, desiring to pnee the watch, entered the store ot the defendant for that purpose. Mr. Welch, on an Inspection of the ticker, declared that It was one purchased of him under the following circumstances:? iliac an unknown man gave him in exchange for it a forged check upon the Shoe and Leather Bans, upon the face of which appeared a forged certificate of the bank. Mr. Welch believed at the time of the sale that the check was genuine. The deiendaut retained the watch and reruaed tb give It up. Plaintiff contended 011 tne trial tbat he was bona flde purchaser irom llooley, and denied that the certification was a forgery. Judge Curtis charged the Jury that If they wore satisfied that the check in question was a forgery and the identity ol tne watch sold by Welch with that of the one in controversy was established the delendant was entitled to recover lor the reason that Matthews, although entirely innocent himself, derived His title through the lelonious uct of Hooley, and that the relation of Hooley and Matthews whs that of pledgeor and pledgee, and not that ol vendor and vendee. The jury lound ior defendant. KARINE COURT?PART 2. Decisions* By Judge Shea. Cullman vs. Gossleyer?Action for goods sold and delivered. Inquest by default and Judgment l?r the plaintiff ior $400 44 costs aud $*Jfi allowance. Everett vs. Startup.?Judgment by deiault for nlalnttfT for SHOO cost.4 sum nilnwanca. Held vs. Kyan.?Action upon promissory note. Inquest t>y default and judgment lor tbe plain lid' ior $igs 48 costs and $25 allowance. Tills Part adjourned to Monday. MARINE COURT-CHAMBERS. Decisions. Dy Judge Joaohlmscn. Clapp vs. Wilson.?Motion gruuted, on payment of $10 costs 01 opposing tins motion and consenting tnat cause be placed on day calendar ior first Monday in October next. Kntwise vs. ilalltgan.?Warrant of attachment granted. Kohlhelm vs. Pchram.?Order vacating arrest granted, discharging deiendant lrom imprisonment. Smock vs. Woodhouse.?Order granted, opening default and restoring cause to its place on calendar. Wolff vs. Dare.?Motion denied, with $7 costs, to abide event. Sohlansny vs. Gray.?The defendant, by her delay, has ulrcadv virtually annulled tue eifect of Judge Spauldlng's order. She may be relieved If within two days she pays into Court the amount required by order or August 29, serves notice tn the meantime, consents Hi writing that the cause 1 be set down lor trial for the 11th mat, in Part 3, 1 and pays $10 costs of opposing motion. Worth vs. Birdsall.?on defendant's complying, 1 within three days, with Judge Spanldlng's order 1 and paying (6 costs of opposing this motion the answer may stand and judgment be opened, deiendant to pay disbursements. Calcaquino vs. Cohen.?This Judgment mast be set aside: but as tbe notice does not point out irregularities and there is a want of Jurisdiction on tbe face of the record, no costs can be given. Freeman vs. Salomon.?The defendant may have an order to open inquest and judgment on paying $lo costs of trial, $10 for opposing this motion and all disbursements. Cause to go on day calendar in Part 2, ior September 15, 1873. Carter vs. Lumley.?Plaintive has leave to withdraw this motion without prejudice on payment of ' $5 costs. i COURT OF GENERAL SESSIONS. ' Before Judge Sutherland. 1 His TTonor tbe City Jndge presided in this Conrt < yesterday, having recovered from his temporary inflinnnflltlnn. Burglary* Henry McCartan was tried and convicted of being concerned wltb others in burglariously entering the tailor's shop or John Hilly, No. 338 Bleecker street, on the 13th of August, when eight gieces of cloth, worth $80, were taken. Having een recommended to mercy, the Judge sentenced him to the State Prison tor eighteen months. Grand Lareeniti. William n. Rotner, charged with stealing, on the 14th of August, a lady's suit and thrse coats, valued at $76, the property or Robert Taggart, pleaded guilty to an attempt at grand larceny. He was sent to tho State Prison lor two years and six mouths, John O'Nell, who was indicted for stealing wearing apparel, valued at $142, on the 20th or August, owned by Julia Lowenlhal, pleaded guilty to an a: tempt at grand larceny. Fifteen months in the State Prisou was the sentence imposed. 1 Edgar (iodefroy, who was charged with stealing a gold watch and chain, worth $70, on the 26th or August, rroui Regis senac, pleaded guilty to au attempt at larceny. Godefroy was sent to the State Prison (or two years. Petit Larcenies. Eliza Cody pleaded guilty to petit larceny, the eharge against her being that on the 30th or August she stole $41 worth of clothing belonging to Clara Weber. Mary Jane Rammon and Louisa Ridge, who were indicted for stealing, on the 23d of August, a pockctbook, containing $10. from the person of Susan Bambach, pleaded guilty to petit larceny. Charles Smith, a man over sixty, years old, charged with stealing a basket of champagne, valued at $20, the property of Oscar P. Blackman, pleaded guilty to the minor grade of larceny. These prisoners were each sent to the Penitentiary lor six mouths. A Burglar and a Forger Seat to Sing Sing. William B. Smith, against whom was an Indictment for forgery, pleaded guilty to a charge of burglary In the third degree. On the morning of the 28th of June he broke Into the office of Kufus Darrow, No. 301 West Plfty-flrst street, and stole a gold chain and $60 in money. Do was sent to the State 1'rlson for lour years. A Disagreement. Patrick Barrett was trted upon a charge of stealing $160 from Bernard O'Connor on the 18th of August last. A brother or the defendant, who strongly resembled him, testified that O'Connor was very drunk upon the night In question, and that It was he, and not Patrick, who took the money irom the complainant for sate keeping. The accused proved his good character by wholesale liquor merchants. As it was impossible for the jury to agree upon a verdict they were discharged. TOMBS POLICE COURT. Before Judge Hogan. On the 8th of this month Henry Adier, of the Arm ; of Adler A Co., No. 66 Leonard street, missed from their stock six boxes of velveteen, valued at $100. Detective Richard Plelds, of the Fifth precinct, was called in and the facts were stated to him. He at once suspected the porter of the establishment, Henry Peters, and arrested him.? Peters coniessed to the detective that he had early on the morning of the nth let in llenry Belmont and James Lawrence to the store, and that they and the property stolen were to be found atllOChrystle street. Detectlvo Fields went there, found the j two men named and six boxes, which were lden- ' tilled by Mr. Adler as having contained the prop- | crty in question. Peters, Belmont and Lawrence were arraigned, before Jndge Uoiran, yesterday, < anu ncia in $l,ooo bail each to answer. i market police court. A Scene In Canrt* Testerdar rooming, while Justice Ooz wae die- t charging the watch at the Jefferaon Market Police Court, a lawyer named John Mctt appeared before him as counsel for one of the prisoners. This gentleman, while arguing a caae recently on a writ of ' certiorari before the Supreme Court, as reported, i had accused Jnatloe Coz of malice In sending lus client, a negro, to the Island, berauss the latter, while acting as united States marshal an sieaiun ( _____?_? ^ ^ A day, bad arrested htm (the Justice), as boob sa His Honor observed the lawyer before him he at ouce called his attention to the statements he had made, and pronounced his assertion lalse both as to the facts and inferences. "I should prefer to speak of the matter to private," said the lawyer. , "No, sir!" responded His Honor, with energy; "you made the assertion in public, and l answer you publicly. The statement attributed to you is unqualifiedly false. I never was arrested on election day, as stated, and of course could feel no malice against your client lor the act." Mr. Mott r lien disavowed making any snch statement aa reported beiore the Court, and the matter ended. A Beautiful Young Olrl Turned Thief. At tne Jeffersou Market Police Court yesterday, before Justice Oox, a beautiful young girl, sixteen t'Aiira r?f urra namml Maru MrPftrrt OTA.M ftrralimfifi on two charges of grand larceny, made respectively by Mrs. Katlierine A. Cole, Of 318 Fourth avenne, and Mrs. Annette Cantel, of 383 Sixth avenue. It appeared upon the examination that the girl had, sometime since, abandoned a comfortable home and adoDted thieving as a means of livelihood. After a'variety or experiences she finally became associated with a notod criminal named "Billy" Gardner, who, by the way, , was on Tuesday sentenced to tne State l'riBon for seven years on charge of larceny. Their custom was to engage a lurnlslied room in some residence, and, wiieu opportunity afforded, to gather together what valuables they could and decamp. In this munner the prisoner had stolen wearing apparel, silverware and other articles from Mrs. Cele, to the value of $112, on the 2d day of August, and aoen after articles of a similar character, valued at $155, from Mrs. Cantel. De? tectlves were put upon her track, who ascertained where a portion of the property had been pledged, and ultimately succeeded in arresting her. She was committed in default of $2,000 ball to answer. COURT CALENDAR?THIS DAY. SrpRRM* Coitrt?CfiAMHKKS?Held by Jndgo Fancher.? Nos. C8, 88, 98, 169, 170, 174, 181, 139. 190, 192, 194, 197, 202, 208, 207, 208. Makink CotntT?Part 1?Held by Jndge Curtis.? Nos. 2760, 2842, 2847, 2848, 2850, 2852, 2854, 2860. 2858. 2884, 2888, 2808, 2870, 2872, 2874. Part 2?Adjourned until Monday, September 15. Part 8?Nos. 2803, 2669, 2617, 2678, 2809, 2810, 2768, 2292, 2820, 2828, 2830, 2832, 2834, 2836, 2S38. Coijkt op Gknkkai, Sessions?Heid by Jndge Sutherland.?The People vs. Peter Brennan and William McNamee, robbery; Same vs. Frank Golden, robbery; Same vs. Mathew O'Nlel. robbery; Same vs. John Murphy, robbery; Same vs. Timothy Lane, James srennan. "iiuum 4mjuuuu, rvimaiii unu v^uaiica O'Niel, rape; Same vs. Michael Foran and John Broderlck, rape; Same vs. Daniel Sullivan. ? rape; Saius vs. Samuel S. Cox, felonious assault aud battery: Samo vs. Peter Monaghau, felonious assault and battery; Same vs. William White, burglary; Same vs. David Carney, larceny and receiving stolen goods; Same vs. Hugo urban, grand larceny; Same vs. Mary Lambert, grand larceny; Same vs. Henry Becter, grand larceny; Same vs. Bernard Mooney and Frederick Rogers, grand larceny; Same vs. John Benson, grand larceny; Same vs. Charles Bender, felony, law 1861; Same vs. Charles Gump, two cases, icloay, law 1851. BROOKLYN COURTS. CITY COURT?SPECIAL TERM. The Spencer Divorce Suit. Beiore Judge Nellson. This suit again engaged the attention of thw court yesterday. The husband sues for an absolute divorce on the ground ol adultery, and tho wife, who is a daughter of the late William M. Bradbury, of New York, alleged iu a counterclaim for a separation that Mr. Spencer had ill treated her. On plaintiff's motion this portion or the answer was stricken out. Mrs. Spencer nsked for alimony and counsel fees; but objectlou was inade, on the ground that she was possessed of sufficient means, having the Interest or $10,Wi0, and being the owuer of certain real estate. She consented to take , $2,000, giving a mortgage to the amount on the real estate. She is now seeking to have the question ol adultery tried before a jury. The case was fully reported in tho Herald when It first came up. The Civil Damage Law. The first suit in Kings county nnder the Civil Damage law will soon be tried in the City Court. Mary Donohuo has sued John Shanley, a liquor dealer in Gold street, for furnishing "intoxicating liquors to her husband, whereby he became Intoxicated and utterly unlit tor business, neglected bis family or six children and tailed to provide (or them or this plaintiff," She further charges that he has become an habitual drunkard and that on, 4 one occasion he maltreated her. Shanley, suo avers, continued to sell her husband liquor, notwithstanding her repeated requests to him not to do so. The damages are laid at $i,ooo. AN INSANE WOMAN HANGS HERSELF. Mrs. Anna Bernard, a German woman, forty-eight years or age, who has long been afflicted with fits ol insanity, yesterday morning, while in a deranged state of mind, hanged herself in her room at No. 22*2 Bast Broadway, by means of a rope which she had secured abont her neck. Coroner Keenan was notified. INSTRUCTION. AT THOMPSON'S COLLEOE, 20 FOURTH AVENUE, opposite Cooper Institute.?Bookkeeping. Writing. Arithmetic and languages. Day and evening. Ladles' department Telegraphy taught practically; demand lor operators.?Tuition $20. AN EXPERIENCED CLASSICAL. MATHEMATICAL and English teacher, scholar and gold medallist ot foreign university, desires to establish a school, in which the thorough drill of English public schools will he given; meantime takes private pupils, prepares tor college (English or American); city references ol the nigneet Class. Address luniu, oox uu ueram omce. An episcopal clergyman, on the nuDSON, near New York, having three boy* at *rhool with him. would take two more; terms $3UU. Addreaa PROCTOR. Herald ofllce. A GENTLEMAN WITH EXPERIENCE WILL OP'S instruction to private pupil* a* a resident or visiting tutor; references given; term* reasonable. Apply to J. T. GOODWIN, SOS East Thirteenth street A HOME BOARDING SCHOOL FOR CEILDREN ? Healthful location; 40 mile* from New York; Instruction in the English branches, music and needlework; term* moderate. Address Mrs HARKIETTK K. SEYMOUR, New Ciiqpun, Conn. Bedford female institute?now under the care of Rev. and Mr*. K. J. Cone, resumes duties September 16. 1873. For particulars address Pll IN EAR LOUNHBL'RY. President or A. WILLIAMSON, Secretary, Bedford, Westchester county, N. Y. DOLBEAR'S COMMERCIAL COLLEGE, 875 BROADway, corner Eighteenth street, Is specially designed lor first class families; gentlemen, ladles and boys can have private lesson* In hnsiness writing. Bookkeeping, Arithmetic, Ac.; stillness, cramping and nervousness cntirelv cured in a lew lessons; open day and evening; terms moderate. Dean college, binoiiamton, n. y.-will reopen Tnesduy, September 18, 187:1. It offers the very best facilities to young ladies desirous of uomiiring a thorough collegiate education, with every aeroinpluhtuent. and at * moderate expense. Kor catalogues and Particulars apply to J. W. sCHERMr.RHOKN, Earn, 14 ond sfeet, New York, or address the Secretary, Rev. H. A. PATERSOn, at the College. _ T71KEKHQLD INSTITUTE, FREEHOLD. NEW JERP seyFor Catalogues send to Rev. A. G. CHAMBER^ Principal IilRENCH LANGUAGE TAUGHT-BY A FRENCH ' gentleman, at his own or pupil's residence. Call on or address PROFESSOR, 38 Clinton place. IEhPTNASSE FORT WASHINGTON INSTITUTE FOB J young ladle* reopen* September 22. Circulars ut Brentano's. 3d Union square, nnd LESPINA88B A KKt RDM ANN'S. 12 Pine atrcet Lessons in French by an experienced professor. For terms address E. CL, box 108 iieraid office. MISS RYKR'R RELUCT SCHOOL FOR YOUNG CHIl* drcn will reopen on Tuesday, September 0. in the nceicyan biiiini, on prvciim tcuue, ueiween mm teenth and Fourteenth streets. MISS 8TEBRS' Boarding and Day School, lor Young Ladle* and Children, U East Forty seventl* street will reopen September ?1. School carnage* will be sent for pupils without charge. NBW METHOD OK LKARNINO FRENCH, GERMAN and Italian perfectly bv conversation and reading, bv a superior lady teacher from Paris; best city references. Apply at Ma West Nineteenth street. PENNSYLVANIA MILITARY ACADKMY, CHESTER, Pa. (for boarders only)?Twelfth annual session opens Wednesday. September 10. Civil Engineering. Classic* end English taught Apply to Colonel t IltoDOHE HYATT. President. j^oc eland institute. Nyack-on the-Hndson. N. Y.-Several Furnished Vlllaa and Cottages, on the grounds and near the Institute. are lor rent on liberal term* to those who wish to reslds hare to educate their daughter*. Address L- D. MANSFIELD. President otudibs WILL BE RESUMED IN st. JOITN'S COL= lege, Fordham, Westchester county, on Wednesday. September 3, 1873; Board and Tuition per year, iSJU. For further particulars apply to Jos. SHEA, s. J., President The misses dorkmus reoprn their Day School fbr vonng ladies and chilaren, on Thursday, September 2ft, at il East Twen ty-tlrsl itreet MI8C EJL.1j AN BO UH? _ /1T!?T7R8._M. EDWARDS, WnoLBBAEB OTSTER v Dealer. Norfolk, V*. Dealers supplied on fkrorebla armt. SLOTE A JANBH, STATIONBR8, PRINTERS ANDf Hlank Book Manufacturers, OS Fulton itreet. Blank Booka made to paiurna rCLOSB THK FloHT ABOUT THE OROTON Bl'fJ. call at H. S. DANIIOBR'B office, 71 Whit* if Ml, cor! i?r of Broadway, and for a aaall amount too can rat v iraparatlon to eatermmate every on* 01 your Crotoii t>u(i and roachaa Alio orderi taken for clearinr hotai j, ioumi and iblps ef bed bora oretou base, roacboj. mains tad Mas.