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The Manning-Gladstone Con
He Says Gladstone Has Taken to
"His Cheshire Cheese."
Bailing a Whirlwind That Will Blow
Gladstone Out To Sea Hot
Back to Power.
Remarkable Letter from the Pri
mate of Maryland.
Wasuinoton, Nov. 19,1874.
The enterprise of the Ubrald in presenting the
Important points of the Manning-Gladstone con
troversy In ttB full cable telegrams has been rally
appreciated in this city and Baltimore?tne me
tropolis or the oldest catholic diocese in the United
States, named in honor of the rounder of the
Maryland colony, where liberty or conscience in
religious belief was made the corner stone or her
?nduring fame. Aside lrom the natural Interest,
therefore, which Catholics of this country reel in
toe controversy, it comes home personally to
them, as Mr. Uladstone has said thai "the Papal
net sweoDs a multitude or racts, Including whole
systems of government in all parts of the world,
including the United States, whero the sever
ance of Church and State was supposed to be
complete." Any of the archbishops or
bishops In the United States could authori
tatively answer this assertion of Mr.
Gladstone; but from none, probably, could a de
nial come with more free and general acccptance
than from ). Roosevelt Bay ley, the Archbishop of
Baltimore. A prominent gentleman of this city,
who is a Catholic and identified with public af
fairs, wrote to Archbishop Bayley a few days ago,
enclosing copies of the Uxkald containing the
letter or Archbishop Manning and the points of
Gladstone's attack, as it contains nothing of a
private charactcr the Archbishop's permission to
publish u is presumed, and the letter was to-day
handed your correspondent, that it may have its
place in the columns or the Hskald alongside
of that or the Archbishop's distinguished con
akciuusiiqp's House, i
BALTIilOIlK, NOV. 17, 1874.)
*t Dear Bin?I nave this moment received
your letter or yesterday, asking me to tell you
what I think of the statement made by Mr. Glad?
?tone In his late pamphlet, that since the Vatican
Cooncli defined tbe dogma or tbe infallibility of
tbe Pope "every catholic is called npon to re
oonnce bis mental and moral freedom and place
lila civil loyalty and duty at tbe mercy or another."
If honest, cant-hating old Dr. Johnson were still
living, and yon were to ask him tbe same ques
tion, he would probably explain the matter by
saying "the dog 1b a whig," and would come very
near hitting tbe nail on the head.
To tell you tbe trntb, 1 have no leisure to enter
apon any format atacassion at the mutter, and. in
fact, no disposition to do so. The accusation
ttseir reminds one unpleasantly or similar accusa
tions fhumani generis immici) brought against tbe
primitive Christians, as we find them In tbe pages
or Tacitus and other Paean enemies ot Christian
ity, and when a person tells me mat my religion
requires me to be disloyal to my country the old
Adam comes up in me, and I (eel more disposed
to pnll bis nose than to answer blm politely,
this accusation, It Is true, Is a very old one. It
was, as you will remember, urged against our !
divine Lord bimseir that be was "no iriend to j
Cesar," and tbe same charge has otten been re.
peated against bis followers. j
Tbe only tblng 1 hare to say, at this time, against I
Mr. Gladstone's declaration is, that it is talse?a '
whametal calumny?and I would appeal, with per- j
feet confidence as to tbe truth of my assertion, to |
tbe conscience of every catholic over the lace of |
the earth. It bas no loundation either in tbe j
words of tbe decree nor in auy possible logical de- !
ductlon from tbose words. Tbe thought even that I
It wonld have any snob bearing I am certain never i
entered Into tbe mind or any member or the Coun
cil. Th% Vatican canon did not change in one lota
tbe relations or catholics to tbe civil power, any
more than it changed those of Protestants, it lert j
that important matter, as connected with tbe I
order of civil society, wbere tbe New Testament j
leaves it?where our blessed Lord lert it, when <
lie told us to "Render to Caesar the j
things that are Cmsar's, and to Qod tbe 1
ttungs that are God's"?where tbe Apostles |
left it, when tbey commanded us to be obedient \
to onr civil rulers, "tor conscience' sake." and the j
only limitation ever pnt upon this obedience was i
pat apon it by tbe Apostles themselves, acting as |
Interpreters and teacners or God's holy law, when, 1
having been ordered by the Jewish rulers "not to 1
preach any more in tbe name or Jesus," tbey J
asked them whether "it was right to obey man j
rather than God," and declared that could I
not (non possumus) and consequent!v would not i
?top preaching in His boly name. And this teach- |
ing or our religion and this authoritative interpre- j
tatlon oi it is binding on all Christians, whether
Catholics or Protestants; It is as binding on Mr. <
Gladstone as on the Archbishop ot Westminster. j
It wonld not require tbe help of one of "the !
eleven wise men oi Greece" to find out the par- |
ttcnJar form of monomania which Mr. Gladstone
is laboring under. Ever since be committed a
political hari-kari on himseir by dissolving Par
liament be bas been a soured and disappointed I
man, blown up and very much damaged i
by his own petard; and there is no being j
on this earth more mischievous and dangerous ;
than an old politician, as tbe common saying bas
t^'torned out to grass." "I, who was once as great i
as OMesar, am?now reduced to Nebuchadnezzer."
Everything be has done and said and written since j
shows that be is as anxious to get back into his
cage as a polar bear is anxious to get out or bis.
And so be bas taken to what an old English divine ,
used to call "bis Cheshire cheese"?tlie "No
popery" cry, which "little Johnny" and many
others have tried berore him, and is endeavoring
to raise the whirlwind In the hope that it may
Mow him back on to the treasury benclics. H win
he more likely to blow him out to sea. it is
Indeed *au to see a distinguished statesman .
like Mr. Gladstone, who baa always enjoyed the
reputation or being a high-toned and honorable
man, pnttiog on "the cap and bells" and attempt
ing to play the part or Lord George Gordon.
By this publication be has paid uut a poor com
pliment to the good sense and intelligence of the
English people, and I have my doubts whether
they, will dance to his music, lr he was situated
like Bismarck, and oonld put a soldier alongside
of every honest citizen to make him dance, "will
be, nlll he," then there would be some sense In
the thing,
When I can And time I will write to you more at
length, and recommend to yon certain works to
read which will show you more tally bow little our
theologians or political writers like De Malstre or
De Bonaid or Balmea hare entertained *.ny of tbe
nonsense which Mr. Gladstone laisely attributes to
as. I remain, etc.,
Archbishop or Baltimore.
Mr. Qladftoae and the Vatican Decrees?
A Reply from Most Rev. Dr. Manning.
8m?The gravity ? the subject on which I ad
dress you, affecting, s It must, every Catholic in
the British Kmpire, - ill, 1 hope, obtain (Tom jour
courtesy the publica jn of thla letter.
This morning 1 re eived a copy or a pamphlet,
entitled "The Vatican Decrees in Their Bearing on
Civil Allegiance." I find in it a direct appoal to
my Be If, both ror the office I hold and lor tbo writ
inns I have published. 1 gladly acknowledge the
duty that lies upon me for botb these reasons. 1
am bound by the office I bear not to suffer a day
to pass without repelling irom the Catholics of
this country tbe lightest imputation upon their
loyalty; and. for ray teaching, I am ready to
show that the principles l have ever taught
are beyond Impeachment upon that score.
it is true, indeed, that in page 57 of the pamphlet
Mr. Gladstone expresses tils belief "that meny ol
his Homan Catholic iriends and fellow-country
men'' are, "to say the least oi ft, as good citizens
as himself." But, as the whole pamphlet Is an
1 elaborate argument to prove that the teaching of
tne Vatican council rendeis it impossible for thein
to be bo, I cannot accept this graceful acknowl
edgment, which Implies that thev are good citi
zens because they are at variance with the Cath
olic Church.
I should be wanting in daty to tbe Catholics of
thla country and to myseli Ir I did not give a
prompt contradiction to tlus statement, and U I
did not with equal promptness affirm that the
loyalty or our civil oilegiandte is not in spite of
the teaching of the Cathollo Church, bat because
ol it.
Tho sum of the argument in the pamphlet just
published to the world is this:?That by the Vati
can decrees such a change has been made in the
relations of Catholics to the civil power of States
that it is no longer possible lor them to render
I the same undivtilbd civil allegiance as it was pog
1 slble for Catholics to render before the promulga
i tlon of those decrees.
In answer to this it is for the present sufficient
to affirm
1. That the Vatican decrees have In no Jot or
I title changed either the obligations or the condi
tions of civil allegiance.
2. That the civil allegiance of Catholics is as un
' divided as that ol all Christians, and or all men
who recognize a divine or natural moral law.
I 3. That the civil allegiance of no man is un
I limited, and, therefore, tbe ctvtl allegiance or all
moil who believe in God or are governed by con
science is in that sense divided.
In this sense, and in no other, can it be said
with truth, that tbe civil allegiance of Catholics
Is divided. The civil allegiance or every Christian
man In England is limited by conscience and the
| law or God; and tbe civil allegiance of Catholics
is limited neither less nor more.
The public peace of the Brutsh Empire has been
consolidated in tbe last hair century by the elimi
nation of religious conflicts and Inetpialltiea from
i our laws. The Umpire ol Germanv might have
been equally peaceful and stable if 'its statesmen
had not been tempted, in an evil hour, to rake up
the old fires or religious disnnlon. The hand of
one man, more than any other, threw this torch
of discord into the German Empire. The
history of Germany will record the name of
Dr. Ignatius von iKHIlnger as the author or
tins national evil. 1 lament not only to road the
name, but to trace the arguments of Dr. von
DMirager In the pamphlet beiore me. May God
preserve these kingdoms from the public and pri
vate calamities which are visibly impending over
Germany t The author of the pamphlet, in his
first line, assures us that his "purpose is not po
lemical, but pacific." 1 am sorry that so good au
I intention should nave so widely erred in the *c
I lection of the means.
But ray purpose is neither to criticise nor to con
i trovert. My ut-slre auu my ? duty as an Knglisli
man, as a Catholic, and as a pastor. Is to claim lor
my flock and for myself, a civil allegiance as pure,
as true and as loyal as is rendered by tho distin
guished author or the pamphlet, or by any subject
ol the British Empire. I remain, sir. your faithful
servant, t?ENRY EDWARD,
Archbishop or Westminster.
November 7, 1874.
Religion Not a Mere Sentiment?What
Reservation! Mean and What They
Are Not.
Whatever regrets may be expressed at the rise
and progress of the present controversy I, for
one, shall reel none if the open discussion of the
principles at Issue but ends in establishing the
lact that Catholics are, by doctrine, conviction
and practice, as faithful and devoted citizens as
the nest or you.
Forgive me If I must at the outset emphatically
deny one other affirmation of yours, that religion,
namely, Is but "a sentiment." No, sir, my creed
is not a sentiment, a mere subjective feeling, af
fecting the mind, the Imagination or the sensibili
ties of the individual believer, but resting on
nothing positive, tangible or lndestractlble be
yond that. My religion in based on hard set,
clearly cut, doctrtnal facts?called dogmas.
The dogmatic Btructure of that great Cathollo
creed is as firmly based, as sharply defined and as
visible to the mind's eye in the intellectual world
as the pyramid of Cheops has been to the traveller
In Egypt lor the last 1,800 years.
And It Is precisely because the doctrine of alle- '
glance to the civil magistrate has ever been clearly
defined and declared age after age, without am
biguity or "reservatloq," that 1 approach this dis
cussion with unhesitating confidence.
1 affirm it, and fearlessly challenge contradiction
or the lact, there is neither in Cathollo doctrine
on the relation* of Church and state nor m the
authoritative declaration of councils or Popes any
one thing which warrants your assertion that "the
whole Catholic system Is based upon a 'reserva
tion' precisely like the 'higher law' of the anti
slavery men."
After the most careful and conscientious study
or the tenets of other religious denominations, I
can find no "reservation" In this matter or obedi
ence to law which is not made by the membeis of
every Church In the Union?nay, which Is not made
by every citizen in the community when he casts
his vote for President or Governor, Congressman
or Assemblyman, Judge, Attorney General or Al
The question at Issue is too serious, as I at least
conceive It, that we Bhunld engage in a war of
words. What, then, is the state to whose ordl- j
nances, If 1 understand you aright, your principles
would demand the acquiescence or my judgment
and the submission of my will without "reserva
tion" or condition 1 Let us look into the matter a
little more closely.
The Mate is not a mere abstraction, an ideal be
ing standing between earth and heaven, superior
to tho entire body or ettizens, invested with mys
terious powers derived one knows not whence, in
capable of doing wrong, Inaccessible to a sense
either or mercy or ol Justice, and Irresponsible to
any one for its acts.
It Is, in our time-honored Anglo-Saxon theory of
government (derived in Its every essential feature
from old Catholic geueiatlous), a thing or flesh
aud blood, made up of the chosen men of the com
munity, lutrnsted lor the time being with the
duties oi making laws lor the common good and or i
executing them, and or devising all necessary
means (or securing the peace, prosperity and hap- '
piness oi the entire body of citizens.
These men In authority?executive, legislative
an I judiciary?arc not irresponsible, superior to
law, incapable ol enacting wrong and executing
It. Vou andl, when we created them by our vote
at tho ballot box, knew perfectly well that- as
legislators tney would be fallible, and as judges or
interpreters or the law they would be liable to
err, and, even as the supreme executive, that
these men were not made by our yotes inaccessi
ble to human frailty.
Let that ideal and worshipful personage we call
"the Stats" be controlled hy (leneral Grantor Poss
Tweed or Johu Koliy or John Morrissev. vou. Mr.
Editor, are not prepared to gay that tbe laws it
nay issue mast have tbe unconditional and unre
served acquiescence of your judgment and your
But If tbe august notion of "tbe State" shock
your reverential or religious sense when embodied
In sucb men an I have named, tben let us look
across tbe seaa and consider tbe model govern
ments or England and Germany. We shall set
aside both Queen Victoria and the Emperor Wll
helm as being mere figure-heads, and consider
England as governed constitutionally by Disraeli,
and Germany as It is ruled most arbitrarily by Vod
Each in his own measure these men represent
the State In Great Britain and Germany respect'
ively. I make an enormous difference between
tbem. Ben Disraeli, now that ho is In power, will
not carry ont against Catholics the measures
which some prophetic minds beheld foreshadowed
In "Lothair." Poor Benl be has enough to do at
the helm to Btecr the dear and brave old vessel of
State clear of tbe rocks, and we shall not say one
word to blm while his eye and ear and hand are
strained to the utmost pitch of tension in order to
avoid the inevitable crash.
But If Gladstone, to-morrow or next day, should
again be the State of Great Britain, sco you not
i the measures h# would Introduce against the
Catbollo Chnrrh ? Do not be mlBled by the dis
tinction whiou be makes between "Catholics" and
??Ultramontanes." Since tbe deilultlon of July,
j 1870, there Is no such distinction. Galllcanlsm or
i Ultramontanlsm has disappeared or WW ? h
I aDOstacy of that motley crew if j arid
t suspended priests who try to hide their shame
| under the title of "Old Catholics." It is manifest
: that Gladstone means or threatens to repeal
i wholly or In part the act of Emancipation. Would
! that repeal be a righteous one T Has it been mer
ited by the conduct of Catholics since 1828 on any
field where England's honor or greatness has been
imperilled ? Who will dare say yes f
And Germany 1 w by, my God, we are all blinded
t>y tbe glare of Sadowa and Sedan to the propor
tions of that colossal figure of despotism and
lawless force which tramples down all righteous
opposition in the German Empire. That imperson
ation of ruthless ambition and conscienceless
rule is Bismarck, who moves onward like a loco
motive on a stormy night, crushing beneath his
iron wheels every claim of reason, justice, truth
and mercy.
Who will dare maintain that tbe laws enacted
by a servile legislature at tbe b ding of such a
man, sanctioned by his superannuated master,
praised by his "reptile press," ana executed by
tbe pliant tools created in such abundance In
Prussia since Frederick tbe Great, are binding on
tbe judgment or the conscience ot Chrlstiau, or
i reasonable, or iree men?
i Furthermore, you believe as I do?that were we
! both living to-morrow beneath tbe re-established
; sovereignty of Phis IX., neither his right as
| prince nor his quality ot Pontiff could bind us a
priori to acknowledge every law emanating from
| his government as absolutely just, or every ad
j mmtstratlve act as unerringly wise and equitable.
I There is not, there never has been, and there
I never will be, one single human government, no
i matter what its name or (orm, whose acts are not
i or may not be liable to this inevitable "reserva
i tion" implied in tbe imperfections, frailties and
j passions of those lrom whom they proceed.
I Grant and Tweed governed you and me yester
! day?Grant and Tweed's men are to govern us to
morrow. Let them govern justly and according to
the constitution, and we shall obey them. But in
oar very obedience there Is a fear and a reserva
j tion concerning their possible prevarication.
| Tnere is, however, a distinction which you aad
I 1 make, that Is in what regards our allegiance to
j the people of tbe United States. Let their na
i tional lite, their inuepenUencc, tbelr honor be
I threatened by any foe loreign or domestic, and
| then we shall think no longer of this manor that
I wbo has misgoverned or disgraced us, but of tbe
nation in whose cause we are bound bo lore God
unquestionably and unhesitatingly to peril life
Here, In the matter of allegiance and tbe duties
j it Involves, there Is and can be no "reservation."
I 1 do acknowledge a "reservation," tnen, in my
arceptance of unrighteous and oppressive laws.
Snail 1 tell you now from whom that "reservwou"
is most dangerous?
It ib from those who can, ill their doubts, invoke
t the aid of no authority superior to their own pri
i vate judgment. We know what that leads to
when party passions are ripe, and local Interests
and prejudices are enlisted for party purposes.
No "Infallibility" ever dreamed of by Ignorance or
blgotrr could be more tyrannical than the des- ,
potism of a mob, whose motives, in the hour of
political commotion, are thought to be sanctioned
by religion. It is not yet a full century since Lord
Georare Gordon was master ol London. But since
tnat black date the English people have admired
on more than oue occasion the forbearance of
their Catholic fellow citizens under Intolerable
wrong, because the voice of the Common
Father exhorted them to wait patiently lor
the dawn of reason and justice. During the anti
slnvery agitation we, too, abstained. The Holy
Patber prayed that peace might soon come to the
Union and exhorted his oaildren here to pray.
When the struggle for the national life camo we
here in the North were not the last to go forth
and repel the enemy from the seat of the national
It ib not trne that the Holy Father sympathized
with the rebellion. Because he is the lather of
Christendom his sympathies are evermore for
peace and the solid welfare at each country. No
one deplored more bitterly than be the origin of
our civil war and its probable consequences. If on
ono occasion his excessive anxiety to see peace
restored, and with peace the Union, led him,
under partisan counsels, to lend bis name to an
effort at conciliation, let us not forget that those
who persuaded htm were Americans pleading for
Nor Mr. Lincoln nor Secretary Sewugd ever
cast blame on Plo Nono's heart or motives for
this one act of very justifiable humanity. The
same may be said of his conduct toward Me'xico.
He, like many others nearer home, was made to
believe thai Maximilian was called to that conn
i try by the united voice of the long-suffering popu
lation. The blessing he bestowed on the ill-fated
Prince was soon recalled when he learned on
what principles Napoleon III. intended to estab
lish the Mexican Rmplre, and how little the arch
traitor Bazalne could be trusted to carry
out any civilizing mission. After all, l*io
Nono only performed toward a Catholic prince,
starting on a dangerous and seemingly chivalrous
mission, an act of courtesy like those performed
datiy toward American citizens visiting Rome, be
they Protestant or Catholic. In all these Instances
there is nothing amounting to a positive accusa
tion against the judgment or the heart of the Com
mon Father. But can we American republicans
afford to tnrow stones at the Roman Pontiff, while
on the one hand we suffer the Republic ol Cuba to
be extinguished by slow torture for years and
years at our own door, and on ine other are for
ever patting the tyrant Bismarok on the back and
abetting him In a course of oppression and perse
cution whicn pnts to sliame the civilization of the
j nineteenth century? PRUDENTICS.
The first fall exhibition given by toe members
and professors of Wood's Gymnasium cook place
la*t evening at No. 6 Mast Twenty-eighth street.
There were about 4io gentlemen present, who
evinced the liveliest interest in the entertainment.
First on the list was a set-to between Master Lca
vitt, aged fourteen, and Professor O'Neill. The lad
demonstrated tnat his education in the science of
sparring had been well attended to. Then Dr.
Meigs and Professor Wood gave a like exhibition,
wnlch was toliowed by Mr. Fred J. Kngelliardt and
I'roiessor Delwick in the art of icncing. Then
came Mr. M. K. Burton, using the Indian clnbs,
and the applause which greeted his effort was very
gratifying. Other sparring followed, and Mr. C. 0.
Newton performed upon the trapeze. Engelhardt
and O'Neill also set-to with the gloves, Delwick
and Sennac with the singlestick, when Mr. R. A.
I'ennell displayed his great strengtli in putting ?p
the dumb bells, capping the climax by raising the
two nundre I pounder, llns gentleman was then
presented wlin an elcirant guard chain by the
members ol the gymnasium. The wind-up was
between Messrs. Iliieitneyer and Uwyer, whoso
ability with tuc taoveu received great aj^Uuac.
Wo Adjustment of the Dtepnte?The Non
Society .itnn Gaining Experience-^The
Regain* Stenmcri Sailing on Time.
Whatever may have been the cause the appear- ,
ance o/West street yesterday presented nothing
unusual, aud one not familiar with the fuct that
several thousand 'longshoremen were on a striae
oouid hardly have guessed such a state of affairs.
The sidewalks aud old rendezvouses of the strikers
were deserted, aud at the docks where
the steamahlDS advertise J to sail were lying
everything was going oa satuiactorily and pleas,
antly. Many of these vessels were lull or passen
gers, the number in the steerage being quite large,
and in the majority or ca*et> all the cargo engaged
had been pat in the ships. It was not possible to |
personally watch the several <lepartares, but in
quiry established that hat (ew, il any, of tne ves- .
sets would be detained. It was also observed that 1
the quietude of the men waa so marked and en- <
couraglng that the police had been withdrawn I
from the several docks, save in two instances,
these exceptions'being that of the PaciOc Mall and
Inman piers, where there were half a dozen or so 1
on each, ready lor anything that turned up In their !
line of duty, though it proved they were not re- '
quired to exercise tneir authority.
So lar as the few steamship lines along the East
River, who have been compelled to employ non
> rneE during the past week, arc concerned
me strike of the 'longshoremen has proved a
lizzie. Enough and in some instances more
laborers than were required were provided at a Jew
hoars' notice, all of whom, alter a little practice,
worked efficiently, yet, perhaps, lackliur that
rapl<' 'y which characterized the work of the old
hands. Tne owners and stevedores express great
satislaction at the result, and deem the worst
of the light with them as over, and In
one or two cases uiey are seriously agi
tating the question of never again employing
union men. These laeu do not appear to discon
cert the locked-out workmen, however, lor yester
day, as on the previous days, they were firm in
the stand which had been taken by the organiza
tion, aud will "light it out on this line." There
could he but little gleaned irom conversations
with the strikers lounging aiound South street as
to the future action ol their leaders, yet they
seem well assured that the officers of the union
are working for the interests of the entire body
and in good time will make the way clear to their
employment at the old wages. It does not onter
into their calculations that u has been bad policy
to create such a rupture at this season of the
rear, deemipg that their cause is good and mast
in the end succeed.
Although the Italians were working satisfac
torily on pier Mo. 18, the large body or old handB
along tho sidewalk opposite was sufficient to
render the presence of policemen necessary.
What might have taken place had not the offloers
been on hand no one can guess, yet the strikers
seemed very quiet aud to u man sober. The
.steamer Arragon, the only vessel at tliu dock,
was recoivlng tne last ol her cargo, and though it
was the opinion of net' officers that she would be
delayed in sailing until this morning, they leel
well satisdeu with everything and emphatically
declare that her cargo is as well, if uot better,
stowed than has been the ease lor many voyages
Quietude also marked ttie state of affairs on pier
No. 10, that oi the savannah line, and It was stated
the steamer would be ready to sail at the usual
hour. On the corner oi Wall and south streets,
opposite the pier, there was a body of the old
men narrowly watching the non-eoetety laborers,
and occasionally laughing loudly at some awkward
movement which their quick eyes detected In
handling bales oi cotton. The owners of this line
are resolved to hold to their determination not to
pay other than the reduced rates, and, as in the
case above cited, are Incline J to be aggressive and
not again employ society men.
At Harbeck stores the unloading of the Rotter
dam steamer Maas progressed very satislactorilv,
the newly employed Germans working willingly
and so careruliy that an officer of the dock felt it
due to them to make this acknowledgment:?
"There has been less breakage in discharging the
cargo of this steamer than auy other that lias been
at this pier lor six months." Mr. Howard. the
??doss" stevedore, personally superintended the
work, and to an outsider it tdlo not appear to
be the least trouble for him to make
the new men understand his wishes. All
the cargo, It was thought, would be on the dock
by late last night, and on Monday work will begin
in loading lor the next trip, there being great
confluence expressed that the Bhlp would bo
ready to leave on the advertised dale, 20tn lust.
To-morrow niorniUM the South American
steamer Ontario, whien arrived at Aiartlu'a stores
on Friday, will commence to discharge her cargo,
and some trouble may be?ecAetoned t>y the intro
duction of sufficient numbers ol Italians to do the
work, tttt more is no doubt men of this nationality
will be employed by the stevedores, Walsh
brothers, who have charge or the job. Should
. there be the least demonstration by the locked
out laborers there will be a sufficient police torce
I present to quell it instanter.
'liongthorrmen va. Italian.
Paoli Natiero >8 an Italian who lives In Thompson
street, near Grand, and is a part of that super
abundant human material that weighs down the
price of labor along the shores of the city. Ho is,
perhaps, useful to himself. certainly a benefit to
stevedore* unci steamship companies at preseut,
and decidedly an object lor the hatred of the
"striking" 'longshoremen. Yesterday afternoon
an unknown man hit him on the nead with a stone
while at the corner of King and Varlck streets.
Nauero, the namesake of the Corsican patriot
Paoli, whs attended by a surgeon at the Twenty
eighth precinct station house, and thence was
sent home.
Meeting ot 'liongshoreraen.
At eight o'clock last evening the delegates and
members of the Workingmen's Unions of New
York, Brooklyn and Jersey City crowded 8k
James' Hall, on the corner of New Bowery and
James street. At least 1,600 members were pres
ent, all 'longshoremen.
The Chair called the meeting to order, Impress
ing upon the members the necessity of ob
serving strict order throughout, that the
object of their meeting might be accom
plished. He then stated In brief what that
object was. It was to take measures and pass
resolutions In reference to the treatment the
organization had received at the hands of certain
tyrannical merchants and stevedores, and more
particularly In relation to the recent opposition
maintained against them by the Walsh Brothers
and Henderson Brothers. After some discussion
a motion was made and carried unanimously to
the effect?
"That no member of any of our organizations
shall work for any merchant, stevedore or others
who employ outsiders at the reduced rates.
??That under no circumstances shall we work
for the Walsh Brothers and Henderson Brothers."
This was 'unanimously responded to by a loud,
hoarse, emphatic "No'"
A third motion was here put before the meeting,
namely"Kesolved, That no man of our organ
ization shall work either In steamer or sailing
snip unless he be paid the regular rate of wages."
Carried unanimously.
A report was next handed in by a committee
stating that men worked on twenty docks as
stevedores, 'longshoremen and ships' crews less
than tlie regular rate of waget, bnt the ships Asia,
Enoch Trainor, Clonrondti, Olenflnley and Canada
save lull compensation. As a consequence of this
information a motion was made and carried that
no man of the Union should work on anv steamship
or Baillnn vessel for less than forty cents an hour
per day and eighty cents per night. Mr. O'Gorman,
the representative of the New Jersey delegates,
objected moderately and asked an amendment,
but his request was to no purpose. "No compro
mise" were the deaiening words, and tno dele
gate submitted with ver.v good grace.
A vote of thanks was then tendered to Mr.
OallB?uer, of the No. ?! Workimtmen'a I'nion of
New York, and to all connected with the same,
lor sending to the 'lonirshoremen his hearty sup
port and the support of all the men over wHom he
was President.
A delegate from Brooklyn next made an effort
to have a motion adopted relative to tho appoint
ing 01 a committee of one member lrom each
union, with three additional members, to wait
upon and confer with tne merchants ot the city.
The motion was considered anu seconded, but af
terward discussed at considerable length, and
finally l#ld until the next meeting, the
orf at the same time being, "No, let the
merchants wait upon us." The meeting
was then brought to a close bT a hearing iroin
tho committee, who were appointed to procure
the release of all members contlned In tue Tombs
and Jefferson Market. The following were reported
as released, vizJohn sulllvan, Edward 1'arrell,
Patrick Moran, James .vlornssy and John Mai low,
only one stii; remaining in prison. The ut
most (rood feeling and orderprevailed throughout.
A resolution wan passed to hold the next meeting
on Tuesday, November at, at Nos. 70 and 78 Varlck
The Mtrllc* In Jersey Cltjr.
The gang of Italiau laborers employed at the
Cunard dock, in Jersey city, to take the placcs of
the 'longshoremen on strike, concluded their task
of loadiug the Java yesterday, and the superin
tendent (Mr. Walsh) speaks of them In the highest
terms. He says that a great saving to the com
pany has been effert'd. The new men have
worked so satisfactorily that their services havo
been retained permanently. mis ends the
strike as far as the company aro con
cerned. The men who are out on strike
will not be engaged aealn, even If
Uttu houkl prcscnv Miei&acivea iu compliance
with the new regulations. The Canard agsats
have determiner! to guard against future tromi#
by strike*, by keeping out ol their employ
ment all men who attempt to embarrass the busi
ness of the line whenever it suit* their purposes.
The number of men thrown out of employment
by the strike Is about 100, and as there U very
little employment just now tor the laboring class
In Jersey city, mnen distress amonir the lainnies
of the striken* will be the consequence. There
was no disturbance at the docks yesterday.
Yesterday afternoon a well dressed man, ol re
spectable appearance, entered No. 41 Broad street
tn an apparently fainting condition. Officer nays
took mm to the New street station house. Within
live minutes after his arrival there be died. It
was then learned that his name wan Peter J. Bel
lew, and that he had resided at the Park Hotel, in
Nassau street. Shortly alter tne occurrence a
Hkkaj.d reporter called upon Mr. Ueorge a.
Croiutt, the proprietor of the above mentioned
hotel, who made the following statement:?
"Mr. Bellew was a traveller for the liquor bouse
of Messrs. Frank Bocbn A Co., of No. 43 Broad
street, for several years past. He came here
about ten days ago, returning irom a south
ern tour, aud one day ne received a
telegram stating that his wife hud died
suddenly at buffalo, of heart disease.
He burled her at New Haven, where the larnlly
lived. It affected him terribly, and at the irrave
he remarked he would suon lollow Her, and tem
porarily prevented, I am told, the filling up of the
grave. Upon liis return here uebectime unmanned
with grief, and would sit with his head :n ins
hands all day, weeping lor his dead wile. The day
and night clerks went up btairs to try and cheer
him, but in vain. He refused food, and nearly
starved himself to death. He looked as If in a
dream. Ou Friday tin b<>y came liere Irom New
Haven, and it was agreed that they should go
back tne same evening. This morning ne went to
his employers to iret some money that they owed
him, and loit the boy in my charge, i'he boy sub
sequently saw bis tatuer, when dead, ana also
called upon Messrs. Boehn &, Co. to aak lor some
money to get back to NewHaveu; but tneb-y
tells me that they told him that neither his
rather nor he had any claims npou them.
The ooy came back to me with tears in bis eyes,
not knowing what to do. So, alter giving him his
supper, 1 put btm in the traiu bound (or New
Haven, where he now undoubtedly is. I believe
his grundiather has money aud will sec that bu
lather Is ouried properly. While the police officer
was taking him to the station house be rallied
once and then became unconscious. Captain
Cherry jitaccd him ou a chair, but he died within a
lew moments. He drank no intoxicating liqnors
while here to my knowledge, save on one occasion
when some whiskey was sent to his room, as he
felt very weak. 1 think uriet killed him. He ha*
stopped at this hotel for many years.
Investigation Before Coroner Woltmnn?
Discharge of tile Prisoner.
Coroner Woltman yesterday held an Inquest Id
! too case or Jane Acton, a single woman ol intern
' perate oabitB, late of No. 48 Charlton street,
whose death, it vraa alleged, had been caused on
! the itfth ult, by violence received at the bauds
1 of her brother, John Acton, as reported In the
i IIkiwlu) at the time of tbe occurrence.
i John Kane deposed that he was called In to see
' deceased alter uemdeatii, and, finding she had
| two black eyes, asked tue prisoner and bis mother
how Hhe had received them; in reply he was told
she had fallen down stairs; deceased aud her
brother were in the habit or drinking to excosi
and quarrelling when Iu that condition.
Dr. Cliausey deposed that he examined the body
of deceased ana was of the opinion that the black
eyes she liad could not have been produced by a
lalU and that they were caused by a blow from a
man's fist; and believes that they could not well
have been produced any other way.
Fanny Acton, a poor, decrepit old woman,
mother ol deceased, deposed that her daughter
told her she had fallen down stairs, and must nave
received one black eye by the lull; don't know
bow the other eye was Injured; deceased and
prisoner never had any bad quarrels.
Deputy Coroner Marsh, who made a post-mortem
examination on tbe body, lound that deatn
| resulted trom compression ol the brain, caused by
I violence ol some kind.
I The Jury, In their verdict, said that Tram the tes
i timony they were unat>le to say in what manner
trie injuries causing death were received. Coroner
Woltman thereupon discharged Acton from cus
tody. Mr. Leo tJchwab appeared on bohali of
the prisoner.
Testimony Before the Inspector* of
Yesterday afternoon tbe investigation of the
explosion of the tugboat Lily, which was blown up
on Tuesday Uat, the lTtb lust., In the Bast Klver,
j at Hell date, was continued before tbe United
I State* Local Inspectors ot Steamships. 011 Thurs
day last the Inspectors took tbe deposition of
; John Ilogan, the fireman of the Lily, who is now
lying in Uellevue Hospital suffering from injuries
received in the explosion. He testified that tbe
boiler bad been worked up to a pressure of eighty
pounds, although the permit issued by the steam
snip Inspectors allowed only a pressure of seventy
five poll mis.
Tbe itrst witness examined yesterday waa
Charles Warren, ttie engineer, who resided at No.
202 Catharine street, whose lace was burued and
wtiose body was badly bruised oy the explosion,
lie stated that ne commenced to act
as engineer of the Lily about a mouth
airo; on Saturday, the 14th in&t., a
leak in the boiler was repaired by Mr. Bayley, of
! South street; he had noticed a leak about three
' weeks ago; It had been repaired by a Mint patch,
1 which means a patch by bolts being put over it;
he believeo that the steam guuge was correct; the
late Captain Ilavens, wuo had met his death by
the explosion, had told him that he might carry a
pressure of eighty pounds to the square inch;
water was taseu at Niue:y-sooond street, and we
i then went to Kilter's island alter tho vessel laden
with lumber, which they had to tow to New York;
I shortly beiore the explosion bo learned from tbe
I fireman that the water was belnj used as last as
it came iu, and he told htm to leave both iecd
pipes open; the boiler, in his opinion, had broken
at the identical spot where it had been repaired.
E. L. Bayley, the boiler maker, who repaired tne
boiler, testified that be had put a patch over two
, little checks in the new Iron of tne boiler; pnt
I it on about six montbs ago; tne patch was secured
I by seven bolts; be thought tbat the gauge was
1 defective.
Mr. bantgan, foreman for Mr. Bayley, tbought
tuat the repair of tbe boiler was well and thor
oughly done; it was commenced on a Saturday.
The evidence ot the loregoltiK witnesses was con
firmed by one of Mr. Barley's boiiermakers.
The Lny, winch was ol twenty-live tons burden,
waa sold by Mr. (ieorge S. Townsend to oapain
Havens, who lost his life by tbe explosion. The In
spector's record shows that tbe boiler was in
vestigated last on the utb of July, 1874.
A Colored Womu Killed by Two Ruf
On the night of tbe loth tnat. Eliza Jackson, a
colored woman, was assaulted in a vacant lot at
McDougalt street and Kalph avenue, Brooklyn,
ana sincc thai time she has been lying in a dan
gerous condition at ber borne, which 1b In a Uttle
snanty at tbe corner of Monroo street and Ralph
avenue. Sbe died last evening from the effects of
iter wounds, and coroner Jones was notified to
hold an inquest.
The assault, winch is alleged to have been com
mitted by two young rowdies, was of the most
atrocious coaracter, the poor woman's clothing
being torn from her body, and her face and bead
lerrloly bruised, tier assailants left her ror dead,
and the next morning she was found by tbe police
and taken homo. Previous to her decease she
made a statement implicating two young men,
wuo arc now In custody.
Two years ago the Most Rev. Archbishop
McClosky determined on formiug a new parish at
Bast Forty-third street. The mission to carry out
bis wishes was intrusted to tne Rev. Father Mac
DowalL The immense crowds tbat thronged
to Croton Hall, where divino service was
temporarily held, proved the great necessity
that existed lor a Catholic churob in that
populous district. The young and popular pastor
Father MacDowall Immediately purchased the site
lor a church in East Forty-third street, and. not
withstanding the embarrassment and difficulty
created br tne late panic, succeeded in building
and roofing In tne basement, where divine sorviee
lias been neld lor ?umc months past.
The latr to tic opened next Monday is gotten tin to
collect innds lor tne completion ol tne church,
and Horn tne preparations made by the ladies :n
charge of the different tables ihe lair will prove
most attractive and we trust successlul.
The following record win show the changes in
the temperature during tbe last twenty-four hours,
in comparison with the corresponding date last
year, as recorded at Hudnut's drug store, 218
1873. 1874. 1873. 1874.
3 A. M 24 37 3 P. M 36 38
6 A. M 22 .'?? 6 F. M 34 34
9 A. M 24 34 ? P. M ti3 38
12 M 33 38 12 F. M 30 38
Average temperature yesterday 38^
Average temperature for corresponding date
last year 29 >i
Average temperature last week 41 1-7
Average temperature ror corresponding
weekiwtjrear 341-1
The President on Louisiana Affair* in the
Forthcoming Message.
Radical Explanations for His
Conservative Programme for Kellogg'*
WASHUiOTON, NOV. 21, 1814.
It la understood that the President in his mes
sage will call the attention of Cougve-*-* to the ab
normal condition or anairs in L uisiaua by refer
ence to the riot ?t September 14 last, and the
consequent action of ttie administration in order
ing troops and naval vessels to New Orleans. Ac
companying the message will be copies of all the
orders issued and tue correspondence wmch
officially passed in what was then ami subsequently
done. More serious trouble is anticipated next
January ttian any which baa yet occurred to mar
tlie peace of the State. Of this the President has
oeen fully advised, and tne sorry condition of
affairs In Louisiana as well as Arkansas excites
serious attention ou bis part.
This week's Uekai.d's despatches from New Or
leans, already published, narrate that the White
League ol that city threatens to lynch the mem
bers of the Returning Board, and that the White
League of SUrcvcport volunteers to march down
and assist in the lell work. A few days ago the
Sbreveport Tlnwa, which is conceded by the re
publicans to be the ablest democratic organ in the
State of Louisiana, demanded ttiat every man,
from Oongressiuau to coustable, whom the Board
should return as elected, should be killed. All
theso facts aro in the President's possession, and,
while be 1b most heartily disgusted with the un
settled condition of unalrs, in which be has the
symnatby of the Attorney General, ue rucoguixss
the obligation to prevent anarchy and stay riot.
The defiant attitude ef the people of Louisiana Is
thought to portend mischief, and It is generally
apprehended in administration circles that In
January, when tho Legislature shall assemble,
White League rifles will gainsay the title of many
of those returned by tne Board, it is said that
the lear of federal interference will not deter the
Leagne from making its edort any more than did
the two years' Executive recognition or the He
facto government dissuade that League from its
bold experiment of September last. And yet the
President has been assured that a large element
of tbe Louisiana democracy discounuuaiice the
League. The taxpayers are beginning to wince
under the frequent paroxysms that depreciate
property, dishearten enterprise aud repel immi
gration. The better class of republicans
frankly admit that some of the local officials
are not exemplary, but Insist that, as they
were mainly appointed berore Kellogg
took the executive chair, he is notcuipable. Con
firmed by the State Senate, they cunuot oe re
moved by him, and he has thus had to endure tbe
odium of subordinates he never selected. They
are, to a large exteut, men formerly identified witn
Warmoth, and conclude tbclr official tortus lu
January next. Governor Kellogg has assured the
President that In January next he will nave such
a new and critical cor^s of servants through the
state as it uever saw before. But information re
ceived here Is to the effect that Kellogg will not
then he Governor, the choice being between
MoEnery, Penn, Caze and WUtz, tbe latter the re
cent Mayor of New Orleans.
as developed so far is to seat first the eleven
MoEnery senators who hold over from 1872, and
then the eight just elected, and, with this
quorum, to have a Senate to try Kellogg
aud Antoine, the Lieutenant Governor, ou
articles or impeachment, lo constitute a House to
I preler articles, the Leagne proclaims its resolve to
seat an many as may be necessary of Its partisans,
i whatever the finding of tho Returning Board. Re
publicans and democrats admit in common that
I their Ugures are close as to this bodv. MoEnery,
i it is sud, is anxious to have the two houses, com'
i posed as ludicuted, meet In joint session, canvass
the old Warmoth returns of 187a, now supposed to
be '.u covert In a Baltimore bank vault, and ue
cittrc him <*overnor. But McEnery is musty as a
I favorite. Penn. his Lieutenant Governor, was the
White League hero oi .September, and It ilcEnerj
I would die or abdicate a more vehement aud con
1 certed effort, it ;s claimed, would at once engage
tne League. As it is, Penn finds McEnery a
stumbling block, and the League, that will not
i forgive the latter lor opposing their September
I row, as lie had promised tue President not
j to do or countenance any act of violence, are
dividing into Cage and Wilts: clans?the latter by
| far the larger. Cage is one of the old fusion Sen
I ators, and relies on tbe League baronet to get a
I seat. Wilt/, has just been Indisputably elected to
| tne lower House, is the retiring Mayor ot isew
I Orleans and a young and very popular gentleman.
I Care hopes by tho impeachment oi <h> facto
I Lloutenant Governor Antoine to be elected by the
j state Senate as ita President, and upon the ensu
ing impeachmeDt of Kellogg to become acting
I Governor. Wntz is conspiring, it is said, to oe
; elected Speaker of tbe House, and thereupon to
have the House impeach Kellogg simultaneously
! with Antoine, whereby bo may constitutionally
; seat himseu in the Executive chair. Neither com
petitor cares ao much to bave impeachment car
ried to a fluule, since tne inero preferring of ar
ticles, under the Louisiana constitution, operates
as a suspension of official (unctions. Wlltz
conceives, it is said, that tbe venture should not
be made until about the cioso or tbe session, m
March, which would be too late for the present
Congress to interfere, and be would then act aa
Governor till the next Congress should assemble,
1 which, beius democratic tu tbe lower House,
| would not order a new election. The primary ei
: lort will be to fix tbe personal composition oi the
1 Legislature, but as WUtz starts in the race from
the branch that determines whom to impeach first
' the cbances are largely in his favor rather than
! cage, of tho White League, rather than tho Be
1 turning Board shall proclaim wuo are tbe legia
| lators.
i All this bas been laid before the President to
guide mm in his remarks on tne Louisiana ques
j tiou. Kellogg has declared there Is no need oi his
despatching uemands for troops when tho League
by sucn daily bulletins as bave been recently pub
lished betrays the exigency ror him.
He points to tbe retirement or Longstreet from
tbe Returning Board to the end of making a
vacancy for a democrat, as a token or republican
desire tor harmony, and to the refusal of both
Landige and Avayo, old democrats, refusing to act
after having been elected by the Board as mem
bers, as denoting that the opposition will not be
satisfied with aught but a wholesale return of
? auti-republlcans to the Legislature, by whom a
revolution, more legal in lorm than was that of
last September, but lor the same end, may be
: precipitated.
| Dilatory Action of the Returning
Board?Another Man Meeting at the
Clay Statue Called to Accelerate Mtt>
tern?The Army to Remain in New
NEW 0&LBA.KS, Nov. 21, 1874.
It 19 cxpected that the democratic city offlcers will
| be installed on Monday on the U3iuruing Board's
certificates. They bare been eleven days can*
vasstng the votes of this part&h. There are still
flity-six parishes to be canvassed, which, at this
I rate, will require ei3 days to declare the result in
I tfce State. I am assured by high authority that
; the whites have ordered all organizations to bo
l prepared for
immediately after the installation or the city
officers, by a mass meeting at tho Clay statue,
a? on tne Uth of September, und the sending ol a
commission to the Hoard giving them forty-eight
hours to dnisfi, and threatening to do certain
I things in the event of their failure.
The Hergeant-at-Arms is here with summonses
for McKncry and otbers to appear a* witnesses
before the Committee ol Elections of Congress lor
! the second week in December.
it is positively known that the army will remain
here, as a largo hotel has been rented by the
government a? quarters for the Thirteenth in
lautry lor six months, officers assert ibat here
after the army is ouiy to Ihj used lorthe protee.tiuu
of United states property. All tne White League
oivauizatlons met last night lor drill.
Indictment off Kx-State Officials fat
Various Offences?Composition off the
New Orleans, Nov. 21, 1874.
The GTand Jury of Plaqueiniue parish have in
dicted the following personsHarry Mahony
(colored), an ex-member of the House of liepre
sentativcs, for embezzling $3,300, as Treasurer of
tho Board of Education; Edward Butler (colore>i),
I ex-State Senator for receiving a bribe oi $l,6uo;
William M. Prescott, Parish Judge, since 1808, ior
bribery and corruption in office and subornation
of perjury; Nicholas Rivan (ooloredl lor snooting
with intent to kill, blackmailing and obtaining
money under lalse pretences t>y intimidation and
threats; Frank WbUe (colored), Jailer anil Deputy
Sheriff, tor conniving at the escape of prisoners,
| including the deianitnig Mate Tax collector.
The Orand Jury consisted of four whir
I twelve colored men,

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