HE GREAT men
Tips and Downs in the Presidential
Game of See-Saw.
SAMUEL J. OR RUTHEKFORD B. ?
Florida Uncertain, Louisiana Doubt
ful, South Carolina Disputed.
WATCHING THE BOARDS.
Statesmen Still Flocking to the South?
What They Will Do.
OPINIONS AND VIEWS.
Comparative Tables of the Votes in the
Thsre Is no important change to announce
In the condition of affairs regarding the
Presidential election. The wearying doubt
remains, and the signs of its being dissipated
within a day or two are not encouraging.
The country must wait patiently for
the declaration of the result Florida,
Louisiana and South Carolina, the pivotal
point of the canvass of the votes will not
?peak through their authorized officers for
kt least a week. The democrats still claim
thom on the strength of their detailed re
ports of the majorities in the various coun
ties and parishes; the republicans decline
to give authoritative figures, claiming that
there oan be no figures given before the
Boards decide. The indications that Tilden
has run behind Hampton in South Carolina
increase. In Florida a similar state of the
poll is developing, but not, the democrats
claim, in the same proportion. At present
Governor Tilden has 184 votes and Governor
Hayes 166, with 19 doubtful; 185 being ne
cessary to a majority.
THE DOUBTFUL TRIO.
aSTIKJLTID MAJORITIES OW LOUISIANA, SOUTH
CABOUMA AMD JLO&IDA, WITH COMPABATIVB
TABUE8 ron 1872 ADD 1873.
Tki following estimates make a remarkable ahow
Bieo viU* ? ? ? ?
Catiie r on- ???
peSoio... ? ? ?
BL. Boroanl ? ?
HV J *"?04 ? ? ?'
&u Mary- ? ???
Terre bonne., i
1,464J l.OWJI 2861 1,340
i ...n.i 1040*' 1 "" 1 """
Total 121,666120.626. j71,663 67,020
tCa)ortll??....| ?| 7,8501(14,624 ?
Total* ?2,748 T'J.'iM) 23,083 M.?M ?H H18
laj.iritmt. ..J ??. l,60r. t0,0<>7 ? 11,486 ?
Tko flgur*s andor iba columns "Presidential, 1876,"
i all from Uotnocraiic sources.
The democrat* throw off 000 of this claim as Tllden's
ajorttf, lb4is cstimaios being based on U? vote tor
? 442 I
MS. PIMCHBACK'S OCmOK.
Nsw Oblbamb, Not. 13, UTS.
To TBI Editor or in Uuiui:?
Official reiuruH coaie iu slowly, bat enough Is
known to warrant tbo beliof that lis yes hu oirrltd
the SUM on a fair count. P. B 8. PINCBBACK.
ANTICIPATED MEETINO or THE BETU BXLNO
BOA ED IK THE CUSTOM HOUSE?AM IM
PBS88ION THAT IT WILL COUNT THE STATS
FOB HA YE:?ATTEMPT TO CHA&IGE TUB PEB
BONNSL OF TUB BOABD.
Nbw Oblsaks, Not. 13. 1ST?.
The distinguished Arrivals continue, and are Im
mediately taken iu band by their respective partisans.
The city Is all excitement, but as yet nothing tangible
has developed. Tbey all appear to hare left home la
a great burry and without ar ? deflnlto Ideas or pur
poses. or course the air loll of miners, mainly
wltboat loundation, and everybody, both strangers aad
natives, seems hopelessly puzzled.
a okfimit* moroaiTiox.
The only definite theory yet developed la a propo
sition, Mid to hare originated vltb Wstterson and
telegraphed toTilden, that the latter aad Huyoa should
sach select five men or the calibre of Adams and
Evarts to supervise the Keturnlng Board's Court, It
agreeing te be ruled by the docialoa of this committee.
TUden la reported to have responded favorably, and
the proposition has since gone to Hayes. There 1*
nowever, little likelihood of such an arrangement
THK RKTCSXIXO BOABD.
As yet no official announcement has been mad* of
tbe date of the meeting oftbe Returning Board, which
will probably be held in the Custom House, now
strongly garrisoned with United Slates troops, aad-the
Impression is almost universal in this community that
Ik will count ^be State for I?ayes ?4ar various pre
texts manufactured. Ambassadors have been sent
Into the country to get up affidavits, 4a, and from
present prospects the meeting will be delayed as long
FKJCS8CUI OX CULOBID MXXBIUIS.
To-day great pressure has been brought to bear upon
the two negroee whe, by eligibility, constitute tbe lio
turning Board. The republicans are anxious to replace
them with stronger men, both on tbo score of ability
ana reputation, and are willing to award ouo member
to tbe demoeraia Tbis change can only be effected by
' tbe present fragmentary Board fllliug the vacancies
and then resigning, to have their places filled in turn.
This tbey peremptorily refute to do, both negroes
being active and shrewd politicians, and keenly a/ive
to tbo important rOU they have been accldently
Official returns from various parishes to-day do not
materially alter the estimated vote, which still stands
at about 8.000 for Tilden.
list o? ARRIVALS.
Tho following prominont party leaders are at tbo St.
Charles Hotel, having arrived to-day via Jackson:?
Judge Doolittle, Sonator Lyman Trumbull, Perry H.
Smith, Chicago; U. U. Smith, Springfield, lit; Gov
ernor John H Palmer, Illinois; John W. Stevenson,
Kentucky; George W. Julian, Indisnapolls; J. K. Sul
lo, Stanley Mathews. Edward F. Noyes, Job K Stevon
son, Cincinnati; General McDonald, >'. B McDonald,
John O. Love, M. Muniton, Indianapolis; William T.
Hamilton, Maryland; L. V. Bogy, St. Louis; William
K. Morrison, Illinois; John B. Martin, Charles Gibson,
SL Louis; Georgo B. Smith, Wisconsin; J. O. Brod
head, St. Louis; C. H. Farwell, Abney Taylor, Illinois;
C. Irving Dluy, Maryland.
OBAVITT Of TUB SITUATION.
Senators Doolittle and Trumbull think the situation |
j a very grave one If the result ol the election la found
to depeud upon States that have been tor some years
; under military controL ? As yet they buvo done
nothing bat examlno into tho laws bearing upon the
I subject, aod are now awaiting the arrival of other
friends bolero holding s general conference.
KX OOVKK.MOR CCRTIX,
who arrived to-night with Sam llandall, also views the
situation in a very serious light. Uo thinks tho prep
arations made for the emergency entirely too exten
sive and unmethodical to bo the result of mere acci
dent From what bo has already learned tho State has
gone democratic by 8,000 majority, and as yol is at a
loss to know what methods will be resorted lo to de
pute it He paid a high eomplltnonl to the IIbrald for
the fearless stand It has taken in demanding tho llnal I
settlement of an abuse upon which the welfare of I
46,000,000 of people is now found to depond.
says that no troublo need be apprehended; that the ro- j
publicans aad democrat* who have come bero are not
the men to tolerate any wrongdoing, aod mat h?i in
tends to stand by them and see a fair count He does
uot doubt that tho republicans will claim tbe retorus
of several parishes Invalid on the score of Intimkta
tion, but ovon with this the result will still be In doubt
OABO FSOM UNITED STATES MABSBAZ. t. B. O.
PITKX3?SOME BATBEB Pa&EMPTOBT DE
Nsw Oalxass, Nov. 8, 1878.
To TBS Editor or tub Hbrald:?
A communication hence in yoar issue of 6th and
signed J. C. Zackcrie stales that 1 sm 'Chief of tbe
armed colored organization called ibe Councils ol
Freedom here." Tbere is no armed colored organiza
tion, nor am I chief ol any sucb. or or any other coun
cils, nor am 1 secretary of tbe llepublican Campaign
Committee, nor have I been for six weeks paat, nor
have tbe United Stales Army officers attempted to de
moralize colored democrats. Tbere are not 200 of tho
latter in tbe State. Troops have not boon sta
tioood noar all or any or the polls to in
fluence the colored voters, nor have tbe
democrats bad any thirty colored speakers
Iu its cauvass. It did have a few mangy black mendi
cants, cast off by the republicans lor their inlamy. and
lit only lor tbeir new party affiliation. Nor' baa
United Slates District Attorney Bockwith, nor hAve I
sought to debase our official euaracter lor the consum
mation of party ends.
The communication in question is written by a tittle
democratic partisan, who akcribea to bis ?lem?nt a
disposition to peace to which a vigorous federal
assertion of law, empbaaised by the presence of the
United States ships Ossipee and Canumcus alone gave
?seating yesterday. The aggressive democrats la the
country b?re too often attempt IJe?their oon federates
IB lhe oily we M dilneni to asnaMlnate ropulattoua.
J. R. Q. PITKIN. I'oiled suiea Marshal.
US IT ED STATU MiBsHiL B. U. WAXAACB OS
A despatch trom Charleston, & C, signed by a gea
lleinaa reaiding 1m tbat eltjr, baring appeared to an
evening paper bere, atating that R. M. Wallace, the
United States Marshal for that district, a republican,
admits the democratic success, too Marabai, la re
sponse to a query, turntabea us with the following as
the result la the 8tato>?
Csaeustox, Not. 13, ISTflL
Kelarna from all the counties give the Mate to Hayas
and Hampton. The official count will eleel Chamber
lata. R It. WALLACE,
United States Mara hat
AS BSTIMATRD MAJORITY I* TBI STATS FOB
HATBS ? HAtlPTOS PBOBABLX KLSCTBD? THB
STATB OAST ASS ?BS AT TOIg?PBEPABATXOSS
CoLtTxaia, No*. IS, 1878.
The Board of State Canraasers receded to-day Iron
their decision of Saturday on two Important polo la.
They now allow oral Instead of written argument, lim
iting the apeaklng on both sides to hail
an hour. Thia lime will be profitably
consumed by the democratic counsel. They fur
ther agreed to begin can rousing the vote for Presiden
tial Electors snd Cohgreaatncn en the 16th, provided
the returns are not all in before that time and continue
to canvass that vole from day to day until their aes
ilon expires by limitation. Their preTlous decision
limited loom to five dsys Irons the date they com
menced. The office of the Secretary of Slate, where
the Board held their session, was crowded by promi
nent men from all parts ol tbe Slate and a number were
prasen. from other States among these Senator
Oordoa, ol tieorgia.
thb rowans or m noaao.
Pointed and effcotive arguments were made by the
democratic counsel as to the eouatttatioBalHy and
legal funoiloaa of the Board. It Is claimed that their
duttea were aimply ministerial aad sot judicial In
character aad It was palpably evident that some of the
members of the Board were of this opinion
tliemsolves. It Is surmised here thia even
ing ibut If a majority of the members were
not candidates for re-election and the vole In
the Stale contest so cloae and unfavorable to tbem,
they would at once abandon the position as to being
Invested with Judicial functions. If, under the circum
stances, ihey still adhere to their decision of Saturday,
holding tbat they have tbe right to bear protects and
decide contests i> ' * of tho electors and Con
gressmen, the pr ? that that line of policy
will j ave the waj ?. Cbamborlain and them
selves in by ihrov tome of tbe heavy demo
?1 "L. - KrxBKO.
The democrat*, ver, ire prepared for every
emergency. In t . il they will resort to logal
remedies and appe 'upreme Court of the Bute
for a writ of probl nan dam us, and force tbo
Ooard to rostricl 1U ^UUrial duties, as de
flued by the constltttUwa <uiu laws of the Suto. The
contest becomes exciting aa It progresses, and may re
soil In scenes of a still more exciting character.
A MKMUKK OF Till HOARD UTTIMI.
It has been reported for several days past that Cotnp
troller General Dunn, who la a member of tbe Board of
?t4l# Canvassers and cuudidate lor re-eloction, has
beo? betting heavily on tbo election of Hayes' and
I Wheeler and the Suoo republican ticket. These reports
were eonOrmwl to-day, for during a recoss of the
Board the Comptroller made a similar bet of one hun
dred dollars, giving bis cheok fer tbe amount, and
signing a contract binding both parties and defining the
subject of tbe wager. It Is claimed here that these
bets unlit blm to act in a Judicial capacity where hta
own funds are Invcated, and ibis point wUI be "vlt to
morrow by cennael before the Board. j
80 far olBclal returns have only boon received from
twenty counties, and as these are in the cuetody of the
Seerotary ol Statu, who Is a member of the Board ol
Canvassers, their figures cannot be asoertalsed until
Uejr are acted apoo.
viABa or psait0.
The extraordinary dolay in sending In the returns
occasions great concern and alarm among the demo
crats, who are fearlul that the boxes are being tam
pered with, n recount made and results changed to
manufacture a majority for the republican State
rBOBABln MAJORITY VOM UAYU.
Corrected returns, which make all those received a
democratic headquarters official, put Hampton's
mujuriij over Chamberlain at 1,3X1. In about half the
counties 10 the Stato Tildcn runs nearly 1,000 behlud
Hampton. A statement made by Governor Chamber
lain's private secretary, who, It is cenjcclured, has
bad accojs to tbe official returns, gives Hayes and
Wboeier a majority over Chamberlain in twenty
counties of 1.5o0, and goes on to ssy If the
rstlo of increase proves tbe ssmo In the
remaining twelve counties Hayes' majority over I
Chamberlain will reach 2,400, which will give Hayes,
according to democratic estimates of Chamberlain's
vote, about 1,200 majority in the Slate. Republicans I
still claim a majority ol S.OOO for Hayes and 2,000 lor !
the State ticket, based on the assumption, It Is sup- 1
posed, that ono or two heavy democratic counties wtl
be thrown out.
All the troops In tbe state have been concen>
trated here and at Charleston. Two companies
have boen ordored again to Aiken, which
leave to-morrow inorniug. Considerable ?ur
Pr'se prevailed here at this latter more,
as there was no disturbance In Aiken county. It is
believed, however, that the arrests contemplated pre
vious to the election and abandoned for the time being
aro now to be made, and hence the troops. A rumor
was current this evening to the etlect that an addi
tional supply or 1,000 troops had been ordered to the
State, and that a new officer bad beon assigned to tbo
command ol tbe forces here. Inquiries failed to trace
the rumor to any uuttiontlc sourccs. Colonel Black, of
the Kigliiceuth infantry, is now in command iu the
Hon. A. H. H. Stuart, of Virginia, has arrived hem,
sATMrue or tilokb's klbutiox.
A member of lUo State Democratic Executive Com
mittee said to-night, confidentially:
'?Don't weaken ou Tlldeu. wc are satisfied of his elec
tion in this Slate, but cannol give figures."
MEETING OF THIS BOABD OF CAMVASSKB8 AB
OVUMXT OX TflK QUESTION OF JOBUMO
1ICN?inn CANVASS FOB BUtCTOB* TO JUOIN
ON THE 16th.
Colombia, Nov. 13, 1SV8.
The Board of State Canvassers mot to-day at ten
o'clock, Messrs. Ueyoo. Stone, Purvis, Dunn and Car
doza gboing present. The following resolution was~
unanimously adopted: *
That tbe Board hoar oral argument on tbe point as
to the limitation of the timo in which the Board csn
canvass the returns lor Presidential electors, and that
argument be limited to ball an hour on each sldo.
General James Connor, on behalf of the democratic
candidate, submitted the following paper In regard to
jcaisnioTiox or tbs boara.
On behalf ol the citizens of ibo Stale whom we rep
resent and tho democratic candidates of the State we
submit that all lbs sets of tbe Geueral Assembly au
thorizing the Board of Slate Canvassers to bear and
determine all cases under protest or contest thst mar
arise lu regard to the election of electors for President
and Vice President, Members of Congress and ali
officers elected at any general election beld in this
State, are in violation of the twenty-sixth paragraph
of tlie constitution, and therefore void; and, in
behalf ol the parties aforesaid, we demand that the
Hoard ol Canvassers now assembled shall not
hoar or decide any such easos ol contest or protest,
but shall only act misisterlslly In ascertaining from
tho returns and statements lorwardod by tbe boards
of county canvasaors tbe persons who have received
tbo greatest number of voles for tbe offices for which
they were respectively caadldatos, sad declare the
same aud certily It to the Seerotary of State.
The Board went Into secret session to consider the,
P"*' raised, After some deliberation the doors wars
opened and Secretary ot Bute Hayne, President of Use,
Board, UBouetd tbat as lb* point of jurUuiciiou
vu s new m tbe Board would like to boar the coo
stitniioaaliiy of I be question argued. Onu o'clock wan
Imed as the time for bear lax the argument. The fol
lowing resolution *u adopted:?
Retolved, Tbat tbe Board of State Canvasser* will
proceed to canvass the return* for elector* lor Presi
des! aadViee President, begtMlng oa tbe lfitb day of
November, unless returns from all counties have been
previously received, and will continue to canvass
such returns trotn day to day antil tbe last day ol Uieir
session, it It 30 necessary to do sa
tbe Board adjourned to ineot a* one o'clock.
abucmixt ox jcaui>icrio*.
Ob reassembling the Bosrd of Canvsaaors beard ar
gument from Leroy I'. Yooiuans In behalf ol tbe dem
ocratlo eltuons. He tnaiatalaod tbat tbe Board bad
so power onder tbe constitution to ultor tbe result of
tbe election as announced by tbe county canva&scra,
and tbat tbe .Stale Board hi* bo power to chauve re
turns, but could merely consolidate and announce the
At the conclusion of tbo argument tbe Board ad
Joarnod until to-morrow morning, wben K. B. Elliott
(ooiorod) will address tbo Board on be ball of tbo repub
licans. He will tuaUt tbat tbe Board has ministerial
and Judicial functions, aad that It has the right to cao
vass and tbrow out votes It. auy couuty where there
bas bean either fraud or intimidation.
Up to tbis evening returns bad been received at the
office of Secretary of State from only elgbteon coun
ties, leaving lourtoen counties to bo heard Irorn. It
will take at least a weak beiore tbe official count is
Both parlies claim tbo State, and heavy trnuds aro
charged on both sides. Federal troops bave been con
centrating bero for tbe past two days
THE CANYAA8 OP CHARLESTON OOCNTT COM
PLETH?PBOTBST OF THE DEMOCRATIC COM
& ITT BE?Till QUESTION OE POLICING THE
CITE OP ClUBLUfOI.
Coarlkston, Nov. 18, 1870.
Tbo Board of Coantjr Canvassers to-day forwarded
tbo returns to the Stale canvasser* at Columbia. The
vole stands?Chamberlain's majority In the county,
Hayes' majority, d,3*iU. Along wltb the reluru
is forwarded n protest of tbe democrats, which sets
lor lb tbe lollowiug points)?
rkurur or tub dbmoc&ats.
Firtt?Tbat tbe whole of the county was so con
trolled by systematic nitlb*Maliou and terrorism tbat
no tree opiiortuntty was given to tbo ijuaillicii voters
thereof to voto lor uie candidates they desired.
.Second?Tbat lu twenty-eight ot the ibirly-nlne
voting pracmuts outside of tbe city limits armed and
disorgauUcd bodies ol meu, witb muskets and bayu
uets uud in military discipline, paraded and loruiuU
nrouud tbe polls, threatening death to auy voter who
(tared to vote tue democratic ticket, and tliat the satd
armed bodies ol tneu voted witb urins iu their bauds,
aud so coutinued uotil alter tbe elcetioa, and proven ted
a free aud fair election.
Third?That qualified voters wbo voted tbe demo
cratic ticket or expressed a desire lo do so were beaten
aud cut ana Injured and threatened with violcucu,
whereby largo numbers wbo de?irou to do so were
prevented lroin voting thb democratic ticket.
fourth?That In 6evon of ibe city preciuots numbers
of voten wbo desired to vote tbe dsiuocratlo ticket
bad their tiokets token from tbem and other tickets
placed in tlielr hand, and were compelled by violunce
to vote tbe republican tletce! against their will aud in
t'iflk?'That there w?n present at tho poll* large
numbers o1 |tersoiis claiming to be deputy sheriffs, und
appointed by the sheriff m Ulroet violation ol law, wliu,
pretending lo act under color of sum oUIco, did, by lo
Umidatlou and throats ul violence, prevent many par
sons from voiiug ilia democratic lionet.
Sixth?That gross and unparailelod fraud was prac
tised, large numbers of persons under ago baviug been
allowed by the manager* to vole at every precinct and
many voters having illegally and Iraudulently voted
repeatedly, the vote ol tbo county by the official return
exceeding by 4,000 the number oi voter* resident ol
Seventh? That only thirty-nine preclncta wore
opened outside the city limits, when tbo law prescribes
thai thuru shall be lorif.
TUB QUKaTIOV Of FOLIOK.
A conflict of opinion baring arisen aa to whether the
negro police or the federal troops have control ol the
peace ot tho city, Major C. L. Best, commanding the
First artillery, has addressed a noto to tho Mayor, In
which he says:?
MA JOB best's imioiii,
1 beg to state lor your inlormailou as well as lor
that 01 all cbuses in this ooinmuully that tbo preser
vation ol good ordor against riot or mob violence has
been uanuuied by the ?rfsubsaodiag officer in obedienco
to most emphatic instructions Irotu the Department
Commander sud which, until revoked, will bo carried
out. To this purpose be will nso precautionary meas
ures to ke-.-p bltnseii Informed of the internal tomper
of tbo city sud ol any demonstrations by auy party
or class tending to create apprehension or a
disturbance of the public ptacr. If the
necessity unhappily arises he will usu tho forces at his
command promptly and effectively to tho dosired end.
It is neither the desire nor intention of the command
ing officer to mteriero with tho usual and legitimate
duties of the oolioo dopartiuont In tho protection of
person and property, or In the exorcise ol any of your
powersas chief civil officer lu the city. Assuming you
have also llio public peace at heart, tbore need be no
conilictof authority or ihwartiujr ol common efforts
for the security aud assurance of the people.
BBOBOAXIZATIOX OP TUB roltUS.
The Mayor ol the city to-day, in compliance with
tho demands of the cltUons, commenced tho reorgani
zation ot tbo police by discharging a number of the
most riotous blacks and appointing white men in their
plaoe. Tho lorco la lo be equalized between whites
and blacks. Oofor* this it stood three blacks to on*
BiNATOH CUMOTi.lt lUtLIKVliH BAYES HAS CAR
RIED FLO Hip A.
Wasuixuton, Nov. 13, 1878
This morning Secretary Chandler receive! tho fol
Tau.aiia.sskk. Nov. 12, 1870.
As to the rumors regarding Conover (Senator) he
bas this morning unequivocally declared lo me, In the
pretence ot three wliuesftos, tuat ho has sunt no tele
gram which did not claim tbo Slalo as certain ior the
republicans. This morning, Ju*t before leaving lor tho
North, ho telegraphed to New York that tho State had
gouo republican beyond question. VV* aro certainly
safe. M. L. STKUNS.
TUK COCNTY CANVAH3INU COMPLETE- TUB ItE
TCRNINO BOARD NOT LIKKl.Y TO GKT TO
WORK IX SEVERAL DAYS?DEMOCRATS E81I- |
MATE DREW'S MAJOBI1Y AT ONE THOUSAND, '
TWO HUNDRED AND SEVEN? THE ItEPlTBLI- I
CANB REFUSE TO VURN1HU FIGURES?AN IN- |
DEPENDENT BEPUULICAN ThSU.U CONCEDE* |
Tajllaiiamkk, Nov. 13, 1874
The county canvassing boards finished thuir wots to
day and the official returns of every county aro now m :
the hands of the soveral county clerka It will bo nu- |
possible lo roach thorn all before several days bare j
elapsed. 3 ouie counties, such ss Manateo, aro fro- |
ijuestly throe weeks In gelling their returns to th
capital. Judge (Jocko, of the Stale ltoturning board, 1
doe* not think that body can gel to work ina*v*ial*
BBFO&BD TO CASVASS.
Information bas been receivod from only on* county
so far in which th* county managers bavo refuted lo
canvass tbo vole. This county I* Hainiilou, in which
the democratic majority i* 291. Your corrospondent
received a despatch from Jacksonville lo-uight an
nouncing that th* Hamilton county manage rs bad re
lused to canvass. No ono here has any idea of what \
tbo cause ol this setion is, s* the election ther* waa i
quiet aud orderly.
from the refusal ol these managers to canvass the vote
is to apply to the Circuit Jadge ior a writ of mauds
mui The democratic Ooinmiltee have sent a lawyer
lo lb* scoue and he will draw up the proper papers at
once and make this applicallou. If tbo Judge
refuses to grant this mandamus Micro is no
further appeal save in a quo warranto as
to why the officors elcctod by those returns
should not lane their aeata The Stale board ol Can
vassers bare no power to act upon the poll of a oounty
thai Is not before them. It may be slated that Judge
bell, the manager who refused to cauvass these r*
turns, Is in lavor of the republican candidate for Sen
ator In Hamilton oounty. The throwing out of lb*
vote is but the beginning of a contest In wbieh dozens
of county returns will be ripped up and fought over.
TBLEOBAI'H OPBBATOB BRBOVKD.
The telegraph operator at ibis point was removed on
a charge made by a republican official, Governor Stearns
himself. Il is said that the operator disclosed offloia'
secret* to the democrats, and that It was not sals to
send a despatch through hla bands. Superintendent
Brenner suspended himglbls morning, and will be here
to-morrow to look into tbo charge*. The lemovaj
created a great deal of excitement, and a heavy
prassur* will be brought to bear to secure bis
reappointment. It is said that tbo repub
| licans demanded that lie ahoaUt give their
muasages precedence end that be d-jcliued. On the
other o*nd. it 11 said tbut a despatch sent from New
York on Wednesday, at eight o'clock, was known on
tbe etrceu In Tallahaaaeo beloro it readied tbo party
adflres&etl. The operator'* irieuds say they will prove
TIU>R*'a rALLIVO HCIIISD.
The important tjuesiiou now under discussion la the
?ote by wmcb Tilden has la' en behind Drew, It is
claimed by republicans that it will be not less than
hOO or 1,000, aud by tbe democrats that it canuot
cxceed 40J acd will bardly l>e moro than
200. There are very lew dais on which
to bake an opinion, oulv lour or Ovu counties having
sent in their lull return*. Iu Sumter Tilden rau be
hind Drew 11 votes; iu Duvat, 0; iu Loou, 14; in Jack
sou, 43; in Nasaau, 20; in Krauklyn, 13; in orauge, 34.
Thus la seventeen counties bo is 206 voted behind.
Tbe satne ratio through tbo remaining counties would
throw lum behind evon the bigt.c?i majority claimed
lor Drow; hut this proportion will not be preserved.
The counties quoted above are those counties iu
which tbo bulk of Northern imuugrauts have
settled, including tbo cities of Jacksonville, Marion,
Tallahassee, landlord and Orlando. Uany of tbeso
Northern settlers voted lor l)rew, but supported Hayes,
befog under the leadership of Solon Kobinsou and meu
ol bis class. Iu tbo Western aud Southern parts of
the Slate the loss will be muoh smaller, if it is any
thing at all. In Santa Kosa Tlldeu leads Drew oue
vote. It is claimed, aud justly, 1 believe, that a*
many democrats iu the South and West will scratch
Drew, wbo is a Northern man, as will scratch 1'iideu.
1 don't think that Tilden can loll behind over 000 votes
at tbe outside. It will likely be le?s.
There is littlo new in election Qgures. To-day tbo
Democratic Committee, alter a carelul session, author
ise the following estimate:?Thirty-lour counties
have been semi-offlclaliy heard (rom, all reliably, an e
give Drew 373 majority. Tbe Ave remaining counties
in 1874 gave a democratic majority ol 048, which
would make Drew's majority 1,021, but the percentage
of increased majorities to which these counties aro
entitled by comparlsou with counties beard Irom is
186. Add this and Drew's majority, as the committee
estimates it, is 1,207.
It is fair to say that the democratic committee has
becu thus lar remarkably correct in all Us eatimatod
majorities, and It is claimed that, with only Ave couu
I ties to hear from, their entimato has not been wrong
mo liars uuoa* rrai'Rta.
Tbe republicans reluse m lurnish any figures. To
night tbo .Sun, independuut republican, concedes that
Tilden iiat carried the State by 300 to 600, aud Drew by
as much more.
DKTkCTIVIU AND MOMTICtAXM.
It appears tbet any uutubor of secret service men,
detectives and political manipulators are moving ou
this dovoted land. Several ure here already. Judge
Morton, of Virginia, who so successiully orgauisod the
unsuccessful Conkllng movement. Is here, moving
about i^uiotly iu special trains. The Domocratic Com
mittee receiveu the lollowing to-night. It la one of a
doxtu ol similar Import:?
A BXMPLtC lIKSPATCII.
Pim.ADKi.ruiA, Nov. 12, 1876.
To G. I'. Hanky, Tallahassee: ?
K. W. Mackey and M. S. liray, or this Stalo, Jolt here
on Thursday ulght lor your place. They are tbu
special Iricnds ol Secretary Cameron and bavo tbe
needlul with them. W. M McCI.KDAN.
Chairman Democratic Stale Committee.
General Ruger arrived here this eveuing aud as
aumod command. Governor Drew is hero at Demo
UAMU.TOX COUBTT C A STASH.
Later:?A despatch just received ?tales that an
accommodation was roached In Hamilton county late
this evening and that tbe canvassing Is bow progress
ing. The alleged IrregularlUea will go before tbe State
A despatch recoiled slates I bat affidavits of two
election inspectors uud three citizens, with other
urout, havo been forwarded from Alachua oonnty,
showing that only 310 votoa wero cast at Archer pre*
clact, while 635 were reported by tho mauagors, the
surulus being c'vou to Stearns. No tally aheet was
louud la the box. Tho despatch states that tUo proof
U absolutely conclusive. It la reapoctably signed.
ALLEGED HALLUX BOX STUFFING.
Savaxxau, Ga., Nov. 13, 187&
The following special has been recoivod from Ualnee
Tho ballot box at Archer. In thla county, was stalled
with 280 fraudulent votes, which w?ru counted in by
the can verniers.
GENELAL LOGAN DECLINES TO OO SOUTtt?
PROMINENT CITIZENS EN BuUTE FOB NEW
Chicago, III., Nov..13, 1870.
Senator John A. Logan haa declined the invitation
to make one ol tho party to visit New Orleiuis, believ
ing that there would be an Impropriety lit his doing
ao, sinco tho matter ol the ]>ouisiana vote wilt prob
ably couie before the United States Senate.
Hon. U. 11. Harwell, J. M. Ueurasloy, a lawyer of
Koclc lalaud, und Means. Taylor aud Haven, mer
chants ol Chicago, havo gouo from hero to New
DENIAL FROM SECRETARY CHAND
Washixutox, Nov..13, 1878.
Secretary Chandlor says there la no foundalion what
ever lor the report, telegraphed Iroin New Orleans to
souio Northern journals, that bo has telegraphed to
Governor Kellogg that Louisiunu uiast be counted for
Hayes at all iiazards, aud that Kellogg has given assur
ance that it will be so countcd. Secretary Chandler
emphatically denies that he haa e ther asked or re
celvod any such aaaurance.
TH? IMPENDING CRISIS.
THE TWENTY-SECOND JOINT RULE.
BENATOB HUIBMAN ON TUB ACTION OF TUB?
LAHT OONOUESH ON THE SUBJECT?AN'TAGO- '
NI STIC VIEWS OF TUE TWO BOUSES.
UAXKriKLU, Ohio, Oct. 23, 1876.
To ma Koirou or Tim Cincinnati CoxxsuciaL:?
Iu compliance with your request lor the history of I
the inuunor 114 which the twenty-second |oint rulo of I
(be two Houses of Congress, rogulatliig the mode ol ;
counting the electoral voto lor rresideut, was abro- !
gaied, 1 havo looked through tho proceedings of Con
gress at the last Mission, arid Und Ilia following slagaa
ol the action on this quest ion:?
On the 15th of Dccuoibcr, 1870, Mr. Edmonds, of
Verinout, ollcred a resolution as lollowa:?
Itesulvcd, Tliat the Julnt rule. 11 f Ills Kouato sod til*
Ilu11.11 ol Uu|>roMihtAtivi'*, In loiee at tile ultw of the last
?.a..ion ol Cumreu. ii?. ?u?l tlis saaio ar? hereby, adopted
a? tlih )uint ruins 01 the two houses artiie pros* at aOMlon.?
t on^rswdoiisl ttveord, p. 2'MK
After a stateuieut by Mr. Kduiuuds that his objoct
was to obtaiu a report of the Commutes on I Cults aa to
whether the joint rules ol the lusi eeaslou wore la
lorce without any votj at tho present souaioa, tho
resoiutioo was referred to that coiumittsu.
January 10 1870, the Committee oa Utiles, by Mr.
llatnliu, reported back the resolution with an ainond
meut malting it n concurrent resolution ol ttie two
houses lostoud ol a more reaufettou by the Senate, llo
also slated bis view of tho joint rulua?that they were
only operative upon tho two houses by acquieacooce,
as each bouse wus, by the constitution, empowered to
make its own roles.
Mr. Morton thou movod to accept the twenty-second
Joint rule, leaving tn? rest In lorce. Tlieroupon the
resolution ana amendment went over.?[Congressional
Hacord, page 3i/? )
On tbo 'JiHIi ol January, 1870, t!ie roao4ulion was
again taken up ami tbo mnendiuent of Mr. Mairton ex
cepting tho tw?nty-?econd joint rule, waa adopted.
Mr. llayard then oifered it substitute, which waa re
jected, and the resolution in the form ol u concurrent
resolution was adopted by the Senate.? [Congressional
ltecoril, paae iitti.)
1 bo actum of tho Sent to on this resolution uottld
only bq understood by a reference to the debate on a
bill introduced by Mr. Morton, at the beginning ol the
sessiou, to provide lor uud regulate the count tug of
voles lor President and V ico President. The bill was
referred to tha Committee cn Privileges and Kluotiour.
It waa reported back amended, and aliar much dub.uo
passed the Senate on the 24th ol March, UiO, by a voto
ol 32 yoas to 20 uaya. (See Coagresaional Record,
pagea 1,WM. 1,074, 1.W00, l.'.ilo, l,?an. 1.U4S.)
On the day of its puss*to Mr. rhurinan. who had
voted lor 11, moved a reconsideration. Tina was de
bate* at diUerant times, but no Baal action waa bad oa
the bill, and it is now ponding la th? Semite.
On the 14th of Auguat, 1870, a message waa an- 1
nouueed to tho Sonate that tho House had passed a
resolution auspeuuiafjr tho sixteenth and seventeeoth
joint rules for tho romaiuder of the session. fb?
action of the Houso waa baaed upou tho assumption
that those rulas, together with the otliar joint rales of
previous sessions, wero still la loroo When this an
nouiicriuont waa made Mr. Hamlin said, "We have no
sixtoenth and levenloMlli Joint rales 10 suspend"
Subnetiuently, on the same day, Mr. Kdmuods, in re
aponse to the Houae, oOerod the foilowlog: ?
Bssolved, That the resolution of tbo Mouse ef Representa
tives prsaeaied thts day la|vbe following words 1?'"Beeetved a
bT lbs Mouse of Representative* flhe Senate eoncnrriact,
lliai tbr alxtreuib and arveuteeolh .'ulrit ruluabe sospendaKl
for tno reiualndar ol tli* aet.loo, Oc re?|.?.ti?ul? in turned
to Uae Houmi ol Kepreaasnialivea. ?ilb llie ?lat*menl that,
m* the lloaae of lUprraetilalltea kai not notified (b? Seuale
of tbe adoption of joint rule* lor una present Session, aa pro
posed by tlm resolution oi tlx >ei.??c of tbu K!? day ol
January last, and iraiisiiiiltixl t i tho House .if Keproaent*
ti?es on the "JVd day of the sanie womb, there are no Jolol
rglai In furce.
AO'! mil resolution *?? unanimously adopted.
It seemi (bat the Hou?o took no action upon the
resolution ul tbc >rn.iie rom.-uriuf itie joint rules, ex
\ cept tiio twenty aecoud joint rule, which regulates
iIn; manner of counting the electoral vole, aor did tn?
: Mouse take action on tho resolution jusi i|uoM, but
usauinad Ibal tb? old joiut rutes were in lorce; wlulo
j the Senate early held tb.it ibo Joint rule* cniitiuued
I only during tho concurrence of llio two lioutiM, and
i thai no joint rules were in lorco
I' pou tbc maiii question whether either house can
I recede Irnm u joint ruia sdopud lay n prev.oua Cou
i glee* I bavo uo doubl. Kacli bou?e ba? ibe conslllu
| lional power to adopt its ou u rule* of procedure. S#
' authority cau limit this power except by a cnunge ok
' the constitution. Tho rulox of ono house do nut bind
| it.i successor unless acquiesced in or adopted by it.
An act ol Congroas approved oy tbc President cannot
! bind a subsequent house ax U> its ruios and order of
| business. Joiul rules arc bul ilie concurring opiuionM
1 or rules of llie two independent bodies and cannot
I bind llioir surceiaors or picvem either imu.it) trom ro
I coding Iroui tnein. Tliey aro mutters ol mutual amity
| and couvemence, tu continue which both parties agro*
' to thorn, uud to be revoked at the pleasure of either.
? Any other principle would destroy llie ludcpeiidciico
j of the reapeetive liousoi.
While, tberefore, 1 am clear that tho Senate bud the
i power anil did recede irom the twenty-second joint
; rule, yet It ut a matter of grave regret and solicitude
l ibal Home mode ol settling a disputed vole in lb?
Klcoloral College liaa not been provided lor, lur It II
easy to conceive a contingency wbeu such js dispute,
would Involve us hi it eivil war. We cau only hopo
thai the good fortune that ban attended us thus far
will eoutlnue; that the very gravity ol iho danger will
compel all parties fairly and noueatly to s'ibiult 10 the
will ot the majority expressed IU constitutional lortns,
und ibal the counting ol the volo by tne Vice 1'iesi
denl, in the presence ol both house*, will bo
so impartially done as to coinmaod reaped and acqui
escent'!. It it a danger thai should bo guarded against
*>y a constitutional amendment. Although I voted lor
tho bill pending in tho Senau*, I bad and have doubt*
I whether u was a sufflclent security. I'orhapi, for ibo
I approaching couul, the two houses can agree upon a
! Joint i uie, 'ret-from tho conceded delects and dangera
1 ol tho lormer twenty-second Jolht rule, though 1 iiopo
thai tho popular choice will bo so strong in lavor of
(.iovernor Hayes thai there will be no manner of doubt
us to the result. Very truly yours,
VIEWS OP SENATOK EATON.
OHANT's INVITATION ISKUAllDtD AS rABTIAL ?
CONFIDENCE IN A BK8CLT FAVORABLE TO XHB
Uaktkoku, Cotiu., Nov. US, 1SJC.
Seuator Raton ind Geueral William U. Ireukllo,
butti of tb<s city, untl who haro bueu reporlotl at ac
Oeptmg the mvitutlon Irom tlto Democratic National
Committee 10 go Sou til to witness tlio official canvas*
ol the votes iu the disputed State*. relumed home to
day. in a conversation with your correHpondcDi thin
evening. Senator Eaton, whllo questioning the pro
priety ol the President Interfering In Ibo iuatl?r at all,
I criticised bis course in not luvitlug prominent gentle
I uicu of tbo iloiuooratic an well an the republican party
: to no Soutn lu tbl? emergency, and secitiod to regard
I the President'* course a* ratlicr one-aided and ""J""';
1 Me remarked that ?uch invitations Iroro the President
to representative* or both parties would have beeu ro
liarded in the Itubt or honorable appointments, which
would have met generally with a ehecrlul acceptance,
and that thu ueopie ot the entire country, irrespectivi
of party would thou have had the highest conlldenct
i I* liny report* the gentlemen so selected might make.
' lu iboao views, bo aaid, General Kraukliu lully con
1 Mtfred. Senator Baton lurther said that be did uol
' regaYttTHOta to all threo of
TIIK UISI-CTKU HTATKH
as really necessary, aud. in explanation, said no wl
conlloeut Irom advices received In New \ ork l0-<W
that the result in South Carolina, where the count ng
ol the volo* tikiw place this week, will lully decide the
oue.tiou of the Presidency, and that the canvassers In
that Stale cannot tall to report that the election tbeM
bos been carried by the democracy.
While the necessity way not exist, be
a superintendence of tbo courts in tioridaand
lana It may be quit* ?? w*?tbat tbere should be sora?
thing or the kind, a* th* reports made by the repr?
sontativos ol both panto will not lail of baviug a good
elicet iu lully allaying the excitement under which tb?
country labors aud bringing about good leeling and !
ileal admission on the part or tbo republicans that tb?
electoral voto lor Tllden is not tainted by Iraud.
SENATOR BOUTWELL'S VIEWS.
the puesidesto's course appbovbd?to*
bepublicax pabty will abide bt tub eb?
BULT ACCORDING TO ITS LEGAL rOUM.
Ay Kit, Mass., Nor. 13, 187&
When tbe Ubkalo correspondent came to this tow*
to loterview Senator Uoutwell on tua Presidoutial per
plexilic* be anticipated a solution of tbo questioa
lie knew that tlio Massachusetts Senator waa well u|
in politic*, baring h??n through tbo vaitoaa gradaa ol
Congressmen, ' Stato Governor, Secretary of tbt
Traaaory and Osaily Uoltod Stato* Senator. High
anticipations of wisdom on tho unsettled question
were not realised, howuvar, tor Mr. Bontwcll, Ilka tin
crowds who flock around the bulletin boards, la not
prepared to give bis positive opinion until mora
deiluite tnlormatiou baa roachod him. Me wa*, never*
molds, iree to aay that Gauerul Graut bad proved biiu
,cll a atateaman aud patriot lu tbo aouon be ba<
ukou, aud be believed tho whole couutry would sap
tub uoLiirni. stats*
Conoernlng tbe doubtlul States ibo Senator aald:?
??I aui quite sure that with anytbiug liko a lair count
It will be ahowu that the republicans have carried
Louisiana, Florids, Mississippi aud Soutn Carolina,
and nothing out the moat glgantlo Irauaa will laka
^"riow? about tboao distinguished citizens who to?r?
sooo South?" asked the Hsitai.o correspoudout.
4%Oh t( mdouuU to nothing,' ?ui?wer?d iho Sontlor.
??Hut 'still it will he lortuuale If their observation aud
reports can satiny tbo country and thus avert trouble.?
Then alter a moment's reiloction, the Souatorcon*
tiuitod:?"Wbllo we may believe that we hare bon
estlv carried tbo election, tho republican party will,
nevertheless, tako the result according to its legal
'"VheseVeriMbo'unal words or Mr. Boutwoll, and iron
tbo manner lu which thoy woro uttered it *???'???
to the Hbbalo correspondent that be rolt inwardly thai
Mr, Tilden will ha tbo noxt President.
WENDELL PHILLIPS' OLOOMY VIEW.
obant's PATRIOTISM and statesmanship bb.
VIEWED?TUE SOUTH EBN ISSUB THE ONL*
0 BB THAT BEBPS TUB PABTY ALIVE?HU
VIEW O* THE SOUTH AMD ITS EXPECTATIONS
[from tbe Boston Herald.]
'?I advise noono wbo la interested In the Presidential
.election," aald Weodell Phillips last night, to an au
dieuco of about l.tWO in Parker-Memorial Hail, "to leal
i certain wno la to bo the next President of tbo United
States until we roach the 4U? day of March. 1 do nol
think that tbere la any certainty wbatever who will
succeed Grant In that soul until tbe 1st day ol March.
No in'tier what tho papcra may say tbie tnontU or next
month, a docts.on will not bo reached ci rtaiuly below
| the middle ol February with anything ol a cbaractor i
i man can traet. Thero are various reasons lor tbia, aBd
il u uol nooeasary for mo to consider tbom.
THAXK8 TO UKA.VT.
??Tbo Ursl word, it aceina to me, that Is to ba alts red
to-day. when we may ludulge soiuo bopo that tba Ohio
! i;uvernor will aucceed Goueral Grant, tbo Brat ward!
to t>e uttered to-day are tha thanks ol tba nation M
I General Grant. (Applause.) Ir tho Republlo la aafa,
so that a loyal band holda the helm lor tho next lour
years, we aball owe it to tba isr-aighted autieamaaabii
and laarlaaa patriotism ol the present Praaldent
(appUuaa)?rearlesa In lacing popular misunderstand,
tag and mlannnsirr"'"" as be was in laalsg tlta
enemy's mbdos ; cautious In never oversUpplug tba
law aud pfvmpl to tba extreme verge of bia constuu
lional atnfcoriijr wbou It was necessary to sara tb*
I'llitod Slates, tbara baa been no man in that chair
who baa beast ao willing to take responsibility aa Grant
atuce Aadiww Jackaon quitted It In taking reaponsl
bility promptly and initiating measures that war*
ueoeaaary to tbo salvation of tbe Republic. Is wai
bis name will stand side by side with that of Andrew
Jackson; every year ha* aaded to bis
this year, II ne sucoeed* in wbat bo baa under
taken. will abroad his memory with tbe gr?en?M
laurel that uuy year of Ins lile has watered.
I tniuk be has ruen to tbo level of hia auty
occasion. Me boa never been lound wanting
hour called, aud Irom Uie lime So
bility la Louisiana to tbe lime he takes it "
has been one unlaltering courso ol learleas, patriotM
wUlinTness. matter what ?? l|ie Jn^Sjent?lb?
lellow eitisana, to uo his duty. , , ! * -
in savlaa ttteL I maintain that the maa among ail
other pablic men wh. h^t
01 tho preaant is tbe Pr?.d?nl ot thetnlt^ Htate..
Kverv one ol bis acts which |H??ple bare tniarapre
sented fMl^ina '?
iat hi* MMMBaasnip and compreaensioa.
^ TBI a UTS TO TUB rasaa __
"1 think if Mr. Tilden should really be FrsMMtlf
tho L'nitad States next year the sources that he uSfffil
w thank lor his elevation to that poet are tba Hoeten
!"d v0w York puWic journals They have Sleeted him;
ther are the aide that nare mad* It possible lor tu*
democratic party, Is an hour bo portions as is tins, te
reverse tlio natural order of tilings and tain a rietory
ut a time whan the war itBell sires amplo experience
and example for say is* that tba party that carried
us through tb* war bad tb* rigbt t* tbe heist nntll w*
were well out of It. Republican )ournaium to tha
Northern fuiaa baa b**s aredaions to tb* extras*e*?
extent IB iMlMviag *ve?y pie** ol soaaip thfl caaid ba
started Mains! its own leaders. There is uo ally her*
where wythlag damaging t* tha party would sat utr
eulate with *i*?uls wings. Is thta way Utay foola*
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