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THE SCARED MORMONS.
AgitaUos la the Church of the Latter
Day Saints.
WUIHTIY APOSTOLIC DENUNCIATIONS.
Mormon Denials of the Mobiliza
tion of the Legion.
CHIMES TO BE PUNTSIIED.
"Idaho Bill," one of the Captive
Children, Tells Ilis Tale.
TWO STARTLING LETTERS.
What Lre's Wife Taught to the Boy
She Protected.
[by telegraph to the herald.]
S.U.T I.ake, D. T? May 16,1R77.
Resenting the publicity given iu the IIskald to
ihelr rebellious plans aud purposes, the Mormon
triestbood assembled hero in conference are piny
ng a tremendous game of bluff. Their newspapers
uul speakers have been instructed to deny the
fact now so notorious that the militia are armtng
and drilling, under orders trom their commanders,
nil over Utah. In a puiulc meeting In the Taber
nacle Erastus Know, one of the twelve apostles,
was delegated to express the wrath and disgust of
the Church at the utterances ul the Herald.
PREPARING T11E C1KOUND.
The mind of his audience had been prepared lor
!he Apostle's energetic utterances by a charaeter
stlc address lrom Hrighum Young, usual when
ac wishes to arouse the zeal and fanaticism of Ills
aeople, and which aptly illustrate the religion of
hate, lu which, ou this occasion, lie prophesied the
speedy destruction of their enemies and that uni
versal dominion which the Saints are destined to
ittaln.
KMOliTKl'L DENUNCIATIONS.
Know pitilessly consigned those peoples and relig
ions who oppose them to eternal damnatlou, and
then rolling his fierce eye around lu a vain search
for your secluded correspondent lie shouted:?
"Put that down, scribblers ! Tell the world that
Elder Snow has been preaching treason and com
passing the overthrow of Presidents, governments,
kings, emperors and all other earthly powers. Put
down some more of your lies, hypocrites! Tell
how the Datutcs and destroying angels are about
to glut their revenge upon the Gentiles lu this city
and their only safety ilea in seeking refuge in the
camp. Now, you lying scribblers of the New Yoke
Herald, publish that Elder Suow preaches
treason to the devil if you please, you
lyiD? hypocrltos ! Write more lies abont the Mor
mons. sotae peopw are given to tying, Tireycutrt
tell the truth. I wish, if they can't tell the truth,
they would try and tell a little of It; hat. to tell the
truth would affect them like a shock from a galvanic
.lattery."
Elder Snow had by tills time lashed himself Into a
perfect rage, and the rest of the apostles turned and
regarded him with much approval. Again he hurst
forth, saying:?
"Xow, let ouc who would be your friend Kite yon
a piece of advice. You lying scribblers are falsity
lug for the purpoae of destroying the Saints, but
you will not succeed. Truth will prevull.
to bk ih'JSPed.
"We will live to see the downfall of lying scrib
blers and all our enemies, and Hie Nkw York
Herald establisliment will yet be dumped Into
the sea."'
A HM1I.K THAT WAS BLAND.
llrlghaui Young, who is u little bit frightened just
now, and did not wish to make such dreadful
threats himself, smiled blandly on Apostle .Snow as
lie resumed Ills scat.
A DENIAL KKOM GENERAL WELLS.
I.ast cvculng I addressed to Daniel H. Wells,
lieutenant general of the old Xuuvoo I.eglou, and
second counsellor to Biigham Young, the followiug
uote:?
Dear Sin?Is the report true that members
oi the Church of Jesus Christ ol Latter Day Suints,
especially those belonging to the old Xuuvoo
Legion, have resumed their arms and military
drill in various parts of I t.ih within the last
lew weeks? The order issued by Colonel Duino
shows that some companies at least have been
commanded to put themselves In martial order. I
am told that similar directions lm\e been dissemi
nated throughout the Territory. Arc you awaro of
tlic purpose lor which Colonel Dame's order was
.sstiedr Do you know wliut. is Intended by
militia drills In Utah at the present time?
Is there, tu your judgment, any ground
tor the report that President Young or any other
member of the Church ol Jesus Christ of Latter
Day faints would attempt resistance In an extremity
to the operations of luitcd Slates laws? Yerv re
spectfully yours, ,
Correspondent, of the New York Heiiald.
IIENEUAL WELLS' RESPONSE.
General Wells rospom
Dear Sih?Xo order has been given for a muster
of the legion. There Is no Intention on the part of
lirigliarn Young to rests) the laws, nor does anybody
Intend resistance to them on his betialf. We should
ire only too glad to see the laws enforced, colonel
Dame some time ago expressed Ins desire to be re
lieved, and may be getting tils command ready for
his successor. Respectfully,
DANIEL H. WELLS.
A passage in General Wells' note, which Is sonic
whut scarred by erasures, deprecates the attach
ment of any belligerent uieuiung to the prcspnt
military manoeuvres,
UOVBRNOR KHOIIY'S OPINION.
Governor Emory Is not of General Wells' opinion,
ilnce ho asks the Secretary of War to replenish the
Gutted mates garrisons in Utah with additional
troops. Tlus Mormons continue to arm mid drill,
til hough they ure uncertain when they may be
sailed on to secure the safety ol their chief. Their
iguorance in this respect must needs be shared by
sverybody.
YOl Mli'S POSITION.
Rnghara Young's diletniiia Is understood by few
except himself and the United States District At
torney. It Is generally supposed thai it lie Is In
dicted and tried at all it will be solely as an acces
?ory to the Mountain Meadows massacre. If this
were true lie would be in no Immediate danger.
The Grand Jury in'the judiual district where the
mas-acre was committed, which alone could indict j
him, will not meet until next September in Beuver
City, where Lee wan convicted.
, meeting or thk grand jury.
But it la true u Ornnd Jury will meet on tbe21nt of
tlii* month In Halt Lake City, wno.se business It will
po to inquire into the l'auta eonoermtig many dread
ful murders and assassinations, whose perpetra
tors, although known to he Mormons, could never
be eumlcted by Mormon juries.
Brigham Young Ttud other hc^d men of the
Church ure accused as instigators of these crimen,
and Young himself may yet have to answer lor the
bloody deeds of his agents done long years ago in
states were there are no tan a tics of his faith to
hang a jury, and where murderers are punished ac
cording to their deserts.
COMPOSITION OK THK .11'KV.
A cloud of witnesses will assemble here, and the
Grand Jury of fifteen, of whom twelve can present
an indictment, has for the second time in the Judi
cial history of Utah ouly three Mormons on its list,
it will resoluteiy endeavor to Indict Briglium Young
and others for the crimes 01 which they are accused,
and for thut purpose It will sit if necessary until
September.
EVIDENCE AGAINST YOUNG.
The evidence against the Trophct accumulates,
and if means are provided to secure t lie attendance
of important witnesses he will be sorely beset.
EXPENSES OK KKIIKltAI. CIVIL lit KICK 1 IS.
In this connection an erroneous despatch to a
contemporary says there is no deficiency in the ap
propriation for the contingent expenses of the
United States civil officers in Utah. It
is of ths utmost importance thut the
facts should be explained. The rolaud
bill, so called and passed in 1874, gave the United
States courts exclusive jurisdiction In Territorial
criminal eases and in all olvll cases, except divorce
cases, In which the county probate courts have
concurrent Jurisdiction. The tlrst, Legislature
demurred strongly to this action aud re
fused to appropriate money to run the
courts. The next Legislature made appropriations
lor judges, clerks, jurors and witnesses, but
refused any appropriation lor the Untied States
Attorney aiuf United States Marshal. Conse
quently Cougresa, for the fiscal year ending June
3(11876, diverted the appropriation of f?i,400, which
was to defray the expense of the legislative session,
and applied the same to the payment of court
expenses. In May, 1876, Congress made an appro
priation of $6,000 to supply a deficiency lor the same
purpose and in 1677 appropriated for anoiher de
ficiency of $90,000. A further sum of $30,000 was
appropriated at the lust session of Congress for
Judicial purposes in this Territory under the terms
of the Poland bill lor the coming llscal year com
mencing July 1
APPROPRIATIONS OK THE LEGISLATURE.
Daring all this tiiuo the ouly appropriation tho
Territorial Legislature has made is $ll,ooo for 1870,
and a like sum fbr 1877, to pay Jurors, witnesses
and clerks ol the courts. The Legislature has
persistently refused to pay the cost of sorviug pro
cesses, conducting cases in courts, subsistence and
guarding prisoners lu cases' arising under the law
of the Territory as well as all other cases. Uudor
these circumstances the appropriations made by
Congress were never sufficient. The United States
officers have always been crippled, and at this time
the funds on all accounts are entirely used up. The
Attorney CeflfHaf-.Vi .euloineil the...greatest
economy, and some weeks ago gave notice of the
exhaustion of money available for Territorial pur
poses?that is, tor the prosecution of murders,
thefta and crimes generally under territorial laws.
In spite or all thta the United States District Attor
ney and Marshal intend to find a way to get uhcad.
STARTLING REVELATIONS.
REMARKABLE EVIDENCE OBTAINED BX OUR
SPECIAL, SALT LAKE COMMISSIONER.
Salt Lakk City, lluy 8, 1877.
The smoke of the sacrifice at Mountain Mcutows,
which has long bung like a pall over Southern Utah,
Is gathering about tho root ol the Lion House at Salt
Lake City. Writtcu proof that drigham Young
directed the massacre to be committed is not so readily
obtained as testimony that he was an accessory after
tho fact. The statements which I transmit to you in
tins letter, new aud startling as some ol them .,re,
uiii.-t ho recoivcd with u great many grains ol allow*
nncc for tho fluency and tho reputation of the wit
nesses,
OAARULOl'RXKSS IN PRISON.
Oilmen, whose notoriety ouiBldo ol Utah consists In
his recent discredited affidavit against District Attor
ney Howard and Marshal Nelson, has acain visited mo
aud given tho following version of what ho ullcges
I,eo rea l from manuscript and said to him at (he Utah
Penitentiary:?
?'Mr Dame," Mia Dee, "hail his orders Irora
Iirigbam Youug to put ail tbe emigrants to de..tn ex
cept tho s l)all ebildreu, who wouldn't bo ubio to
testily or do anything about It." Lee added that
Dutno told lilta that If ever ba shuu d bo pushed bo
would produce Brigbam Young's loiter, and thiu .Mrs.
Uaigbt bad ulso assured bun (Lee) that it her husband
should be arrested and brought to trial alio would ex
pose a paper In ber potse-slou showing who ordered
tbe massacre.
lust t'Ai'KRS mi'UCATixo mki.iiam.
I will say in tbia connection ? all I urn permitted to
say at present?that tills atuienicut trenches closo
Opon some facte which novo lately coma to tbo knowl
edge ol tbe federal nuilioriiios.
"Why," reads Lee's suppressed manuscript, accord, j
lug to Oilman, "why was 1 so favored by Urlghutu
Young after tho mussacree II he did not, as ho assured
nit- he did, approve ot llf He assured ine solemnly
i iliul I bud spilt no innocent blood, llo gave mo thrco
wives. 1 sat with liltu In the pulpit, frequently, at
lleavcr, and he contluued to treat mo atlectionaiely,
addressing mo alwuys as 'Broltiir Leo?' Ho habit
ually slopped at uiy bouse, lie mado,mo I'robuto
| Judge of Washington county. llo promisid me
i during my trial that I should bu saved. He told
I ltachel at Beaver to Urge mo to 'stand Urm and not a
| hair ol my boud should bo liar mod!' He went so lar
at one time aa to say that if 1 wanted to 1 could no my i
| own Jailer. II 1 am to die now It will bo lor two !
i reasons?Arm, becauso tny | apcrs, including somo !
which directly Implicate Brtgham Youug in the dircc
J liou of tho massacre, wore stolen from my placo at
Lonely Dell forry [a remote habitation in Arizona at ?
tlio junction ot tbo I'alireaU and Colorado rivers. -Ku.
Hkiiai.iiJ, uud, next, because Brlgtiam Young will, at
the lust moment, prove fulso to every promi-e he has
made me. He not only nictated Hie destruction ol the
Arkansas emigrant train, but shared In tho plunder. ]
Among oilier things a carriage belonging to that train
was take ft to Salt Lake City, and was iu his possession
for j ears."
1 now come to the alatemoot made at the Peniten
tiary yesterday afternoon by a convict called "Idaho
Bill," who Is reputed to be as freakish and slippery a
scamp as ttiero Is In all this Western region. I ho
claim that lit was one of tbe i-cvcniocn juvenile sur
vivors of tbe Mountain Meadows Massacre In." been re
peatedly disputed and Impeached, yet lie slicks to it
with extraordinary pertluacny; and his story to mo.
which I have submitted to the United States Bistr.cl
Attorney and ?no or two others who have kept some
account ot Idaho Bill's curotr Is much longer, more
speonlc and contaius a greater number ol Irovvard alle
gations than any ho evor told belorc.
a iiBAsn mux tus bummnu.
In prison attiro una authavon Idaho Kill conducted
tue, by permission of Untied Hiatus Marshal Nelson,
luto a private room, and thus began bis nsrrutivo:?
"I wjs ono ol the children saved froth the Mountain
Meadows Maasacre. My father and mother, uainod
Thatcher?not Kauchor nor Kruucltcr, as Lee got it
[ and as they'vo got It In tho newspapers?lived lu
Kausaa City. Mo., just aeraas tho Missouri River Irom
Kansas. So dt<l the Huffs an! ike Burroughs
family, wbo belonged tk tbe train. Tlie reel
ol tho families wbo made up tbe train were
mostly from Arkansas. They left there in 18A6, came
loKuuaaaand stayed until 1S57, when the Irtln was
littod out and atarted lor tbe West. Tbe permanent
outfits of ell tbe familiea were bought in Kansas,
at Tort Leavenworth, l.uwrcnce, Topcka and one or
two otbnr placer, and, 1 believe, tbe animals, wagons
and other necessaries for tbo train were mostly pur
chased in Kansas, too. I was then a boy of from seven to
seven and a half years. 1 don't recollect much, except
a lew uniuportuut incidents, about tbo Journey to I'tub,
but my recollection of tbe massacre?what occurred
Just before it una for a long while ufiorward?is us clear
a* 11 bell, lor sevorsl reasons. We were all In a light
fur a goud many days before tbe killing, and atior it was
over ( heard it talked ubont, time and again, as I will
explain to you."
TIIK kU'RDKltOl'S NtKUC.
1 sugjoslcd bare to Idaho lllli that be begin nt tbe
timo ol ibe first attack on tbo train at Mountain Mea
dows and describe everything wblcb occurred then
and afterward, carefully and without exaggeration.
"Very well," said be. "When tue Indians under
Jobu 1). Loo begun to attack lather's train be ordered
tbe wagons to bo made Into a V-shaped corral From
ibis corral iuu emigrants dcfeiidod tbeuisulvea. Two
duys after tho muck bogau I (my name was Charley
Thatcher, you must remember) and another llltla boy
iiumod Huff were sent out to see Lee and ask bun to
get tbo ludiaus to drawulf. Wo wore anioug the young
est cbildreu, but we were both considered pretty bright,
uod lather took tne risk of sending us because no
thought we would deliver tbe message correctly and
tliul even the savages would uot kill such liule fellows
us we were. We saw I.ee. Ho told us to go back, say
ing 'the Iniilaua were mad and be could do uoibing
with ihem.' The next night was the third unco we
bad gone luto tho corral. A young Kcnluckian
named Aden, ubout twenty-two years old, aud a Ger
man uatuod Hull* (a big brother of tbe Utile boy that 1
went out w-itb) started after dark tor Cedar
City to procure assistance. Aden wus killed?
by Joseph Wblto and Stewart, as it after
ward i timed oat?and tho Gcriuau, HuQ, was
wounded by another white inun, but got back Into
the corral curly next day. Woen the tilth day came
we hoisted u Mug ol truce; it wus stuck upon a knoll
unit stood there two days afterward. Nobody outside
paid uuv attention to it at Oral, they kept shooting at
us all tho time. On lbs seventh day, however, a Mag
ol truce cumo toward tbe oorral; It w.*s carr cd by a
utan named Huteinan, although Jobu D. Lea (whom
neither lather nur anybody else insula tbo corral know
up lo ibut lime by hie real name) walked in udvunce
aud was evideutly tbe spokesman. Father went toward
Leu and met him, and Lee aal down on a wagon tongue
and began to talk. Leo said, 'I want you to rurrendor
up your arms and pile tbem and your children into
sumo wagons 1 bavo here, tben we'll have some cbanco
of seeing you suto to Cedar City, This is tbe only wuy
we can handle the Indians.' Father said, 'It's hard
to trust you. Why did you kill my man Aden aud
wound Uuirr It soeins as il you want to kill us ull.'
"Lee answered, 'That was done by some outlaws or
others, with tbo Indians. U wasn't authorized; I
didn't know anything about it. v
IIKAHT-KKXUISO UXHOK1KS.
"Alter aomo further talk father submitted aud sur
rendered. Tbe next lew minutes ware about tbe sad
dost I ever know. We were Juat theu burying a wo
man wbo bad died front n gunshot wound lnsido tbe
currnl By lather's direction some of tbe men got all
the rifles together and pat tbem into ons wagon. Into
that same wagon tbe flvs wounded men that wars
with us were also lilted. Tbe women were going
around collcoting tbe children, in the raeauttmo the
assassins oatatde got Impatient, and n man came into
tbe corral from Higbee, crying out, 'Hurry up, Brother
J,ce, hurry I Tbe Indiana ore mad and eo la Height.'
Finally all u? children worn got togoMior. I was
atundlng close to my mother when lather turned lo
Leo and said 'Let me klan nay wile and my lime chil
arcn. *
A MOTBSS'S AFPBAI*
"Loe answered, 'Ha quick, then.' Father kissed
grandmother Orel, ttteu mother, then me, theu in/
little alitor Mary. ACitr that mother aaid to Leo,
?For heaven's suite, M iter, WboeVSr Jotj are?I don't
knoer your numr?sure my children, lor 1 know we
??s?<T4 |;<?k(W IwetiUI.1
"Loe was very ninch flustered at thla, but he
tolJ mother, as we were going out to get into tbo
wagon, 'The children shall bo saved IT I die. But 1
tell you honestly that aa to the rest it's doubtful,'
THE SLACUHTSK.
"We cbildren now got Into tho second wagon, be
hind the one wbloli contained tho arms and wounded,
end were immediately driven away. Leo walked on
loot Iti Ironi of us, behind the first wagon. Anotbor
white man namod Joel White, and auotber nuiued
Jacob Uauibltu, walked along near the two wagon a
The driver of the front wegoa was namod McKnlgbt
or Knight; the driver ol our wagon was a man named
McMurdy. We got a little over a hundred yards (rum
the corral when the firing commonocd. 1 taw Leo
with u smoking pistol, but doo't know who he bit 1
saw Joel White slriko a man in tho Iront wagon, ami
he and Jacob Hamblln went In and murdered ibe
wounded. While thla was going on the Indians came
up to our wagon, tho children's wagon, and begun
limiting us out lino get ine by tbo imtr ol tho bend
und drew me across tho edge ol the box so tliut It nut
a big ploco out of my chin; you cuo soc tho scar horo
yet.
"And now I must say that Leo saved us
little folks aa he promlaed to; he came up
und ordcro i the ludlans off, and stood in front of us,
so that none of us were budly hurt, only bruised and
cut a little. But the wounded lu the Iront wagon had
beou dono for in uliout half a minute, and (be white
men ami Indians sturteJ back towura the emigrant!,
where there was a good deal of snootiug going on. I
couldn't see tuucb ol that, and I only recollect oio
tiling? I saw my lather on a knoll, with bn hat cf,
running up toward our wagons. 1 supposo that wis i
Jim before ho w is killed, tor tbo teams weut on, aid '
when I looked around again I didn't seo htm."
TIIB JSCKOBKBRS.
"Was that all you saw ol the massacre?"
"Thot la nil I recollect about what happened at tin ;
Meudows. Wo were driven on until we got to Mnuu
liu's ranch, w here we atayod that night, T here wssi't 1
much spare room, and during tbo u ghi pretty noary :
all the white men who participated In tbo muaauce !
drill pod in. Among these were old Billy Young aid
Williuui H. Dame. 1 hadn't h. en Dame until thai nigh, '
hut t believe he had Just come Irom the grouud when
the butchery took place "
lldnho Bill's recollection is here probably at laul
Although tlio chnrgo that Diioe was cue ol tie
chid, it not the chief, Mormon Church dignituria
in southern I'lull who authorized l ie destruction 4
the emigrants la strongly > upporie i, no direct prool tm
been audnccd thai he was prisent al tbo butchery.*
Kb. llhUAhu.J
A DADOItrER OK PHARAOH
"Next day the children were Iiikcu to Ced-ir C.I.
They were distributed Ironi there around In vari.i?
places. I stayed tliero one day and was lout by ?l
Billy Young to John D. Lee's houro at llaruioif.
There I was lelt with Caroline, tae'a second wile, wo
took a great liking to me; uud, indeed, alio wms undl
ihe kindest women 1 ever knew, from lliu time wlm
I arrived at the hou-e she treated mean she iinjt
huvo treated her own son, und t?og the e;to
lest 1 should say souiothtng which might endanger ly
11to. Shu bad me sleep with her always, except wtm
Lee ciiuio to the house n tor having takan his Uii
with lita oilier wivos, then I used to sleep in u 114u
hid on tbo floor. When I was with her alone Mrs. le
used to chu.'ge ine, -Now, Charlie, remember toalwys
say '.he fna uns killed yoor loiks. Say this wlicmer
you are asked by anybody and everyuodv. Dou't cor
speak ol wiitte people?don't over tell that any wkc
men did tbu siiooltn,'. Hvmomber this, Charlie, le II
over you let on that It wan white folk*, they will 111
you.'
??alio used to drum thte Into my ears so tlm I
learned It, as I learned many other things that le
told inc. by heart. About six.weeks after I went to re
w ith Mrs. Leo, the two drivors, Knight end McMmy,
dime to Lee's house. They called him out ol to
door and talked lu blm s little woile, and by ami?
ono or them came to the door end celled for it.
Mi K nig lit or McMurdy, I lorget which, cainuii'iiwi
at mo and wanted me to tell blm who ktld
the emigrants. Of course I told them the Inuiss
did, just as Mrs. Loe bed taught me to say. 1|s
didn't scorn to ault them; they told Lee he oug)tU
to keep me; that I wet older than he thought I tvi,
and that I know altogether loo much One of iL4
said iki.il 'there ought to he something dono willihiJ '
I don't know what would have happened If Mrs./be|,
who was inside the doorkud got wind of wh^thj;
were saying, hadn't came out and told them it wee all
douseuse; that I was young, una didn't know any
thing tbey ibautnt I know. from ail that I hare
leurued ol the Mormons alnuo I am porleotly certain
that her Intercession at thai moment saved my Iila.
A SAI.MLV 41'iKUk
"About two month* aittrwtrd uuotbor ?et of visitors
came to Loo's bouse. There were threo ol them thia
tiuie?.Stewart, Haigbt and Higtice. Leo and Stewart
quarrelled; they both pulled their gix-shoolor* and
wore going to kill each other It was all about ihe
division ol iho Mountain tleadowa cattle. 1 he
wotneo?L iioliuo and Kscliol (Lea's wives) and Mrs.
tSluwart, who war there at the time?stopped It and
made theiu put up thoir pistols.
am esissart ikon iiriuuax.
"I will loll you now," said Idaho IIIU, or Charley
Thatcher, "why I kuow tuoro about what ( suppose
you win l to ilmi out than John I). Lo t himself, due
ol the twelve apostles, Amusu Lyman, who apostatized
several yo irs ugo, and who, 1 litvo heard, was never
very strong in iho Iniib, cuino on a sirauge errand to
tbn hMMo about a month holorn 1 iclt it la tbe spring
ol IbaS. It was about eleven o'clock lu tho forcnoou
wbeu bo walked through tho Irout door Into the room
whore John f). Lee was tiling. Mrs. Lee and 1 were
Id tho next room?tho bedroom?and Iho door was
opea between, Apotilo l.ytnan su d?'brother Loo,
I've been soul to you to soo what napars you have got
in regard to tins Mountain Meadows affair. I've been
sent to look into ibom uud coutii-el with you, and 1
wllludviso you to do nothing hut what It rlgui.'
"Lee ul ilrst stood him off, but tiller tliey talked
awhile ho wont and rot some papers and LiauJed ibem
to Lyniau. All tnls Umo Mrs. I.oo had heeu listening
nud Udgetmg. When she saw Leo baud Iho loiters to
Ly Ulan she pulled uiu up to her and said, in a whisper,
'Cburlcy, uow you shj? out there ami oe a-loollug uround
Mr. Li e , hang on to bis leg, or keep closo to blm soma
way, ar.d llttd out every word that's In tbom letters
and ctme and Lull me.'
Tllk MATS WAHRAXT.
"Pretty soon l.ee una Lyman went out ol the door
aud sui dowu ou a cutie-bniiotnotl seat on the stoop.
I did as Mrs. Leo told uio, and bung around Leo uuu
lieurd bun while be reau a letter. There were two let
ters, one ol which Loo rcud aloud; iho other ho
banded ultoruunl to Lvinau, who read it to hlui-oll,
aud quietly passed it back alter ho bad Ouishcd it. 1
give you from moinory Uio letter tbat Lee read aloud;
but I -don't want you to suppose that I recollect it
wholly ii'iiiu (louring It at that time, (lb, no! I've
got a copy of ibo letter, which was aitorward wrlttcu
out by Caroline Leo, uud I loug ago loomed tt by
hoarl:?
Salt Lake City, August 15, 1807.
Bkotuhk Lki.:?
Allow uu em.grai.ts whatever to pass you or
l through the Country, and ultow uo ouo urouud your
J ladlaus who U not u Mormon [luis Is u word which
neither llrighuui Young nor any other Mormon would
| liu likely to use.?Kl>. IIkuaLIi], lor Ironh.e is cxpccled.
| A plenty ol emigrants nto Colli ng. Peed untie nnd
sell hoilillig. ll they cuuuol live ou the stock tliey
buve got wo can. HKIGHA.U YOUNG.
"Lyman, alter be got through with the two loiters,
sat still u moment and said, as nearly as I can recol
lect, 'Brother Loo, I think 1 wonl't do as I've been
ordered by Prcsldonl Young. It's a bud affair ibat has
happoued to tho Church; It's bad lor you, uud some
day I aspect you'll have to answer for ll even though
Brlghain Young is at iho root of all the eviL I'll not
tako these let tors; you had bolter save them, dome
day they may help you out. At present, Brother Lee,
Brlgbam Young Is trying lo screen himself.' "
Idaho Bill hero s -cmed disposed to rest from bis
nurrativo. He gradually adopted tho demeanor of a
turilo anxious to withdraw Use 1 Into It's sboll. To
various interrogntories ho responded in monosyllables,
regarding tboceihog with au unsteady eye. I was for
some moments at lault, but st last aroused him with a
question which shot boiue.
"Haven't you got auythlng mora valuable to say,
Bill, tbau all tbia fol-de-rol f"
The convict blushed to bis hair and responded, In
diguuutly, "I've ireutod you well, sir; I've fold yon
the story > ou asked mo lo tell, and every word of ll,
as lur at 1 can recollect, Is God's truth."
"Very woll. But is it possible that such a smart
bqy as you were aud suoh a man as you have been In
this * errtiory lor a good many years past, never got
hold ol gny thing mora Important In the shape ol docn
memory evidence than what you have desoribed?"
"iigseuaia to mo," replied Idaho Bui, wriggling Ut
his teat, "that that letter (rate Brlfhaft YMthfM
preliy d?d important."
"Not at all It Is only s copy. Htv* you get tbs
original?"
"Well, no; that's so," answored Bill, grussomely.
A STARTUX > REVELATION.
"llss Mrs. Leo got It?"
"1 don't beliovo tho bos. But," said Idaho Bill,
sft-r a panto, stretching out his hand atained with
stove bluckuig, and laying It Impressively upon my
knee, "there's soother letter thul I have never shown
to any living mun. "
With some difficulty I drew from this strange In
lorn-.tnt a disclosure wbleli on its fanu appears totally
apoctiryphal, hut winch if founded in iruih would
ohaugo the desnuy of the lorrliory of Utah within a
very brlcl space.
"Caroline Leo," ho testified, "gave me on Iho night I
left Mr house to go Kusl, this totter Irom Briglinm
Young to John I) Lee. It W.ts received by Lo* lata in
tho la 11, or curly in the winior stior tho massacre,
about a month alter Leo returned from Ins visit to Salt
Lake City, where he went to report iho ciroumstances
to Uri(buut Young. When Mr*. Leu gave mo this letter
she spoke to mo In th s way. .-aid she, 'Charley,
boro's.motbor letter I've got for you to keep. This Is thu
most lniportsut ol ull. When you gel oldeV you'll
know more about the meaning of it. It tells you who
were the ineu who killed your folks Some ll mo tt tuav
be ol great use to you. Hung on to it, Charlie; nevor
Itt anybody taku It uwny irom you, ool even wbeo you
undress yourself,' and so ou."
uu; prophet's fear.
licro in lite lettor: ?
(Salt Lakk < irv. (Date not.recollected I
exactly, l>ui t?8 intimated .ill0*0). f
Brother Jons II. Lkk:?
1 liuvo writtcu to Washington sail got tuy answer. ,
]i is l.ivurut'lo. Now, Brother Lea, shoulder noua of
this on niv. All the orders I U..vo given you
and uiy coil use, about II. e muss..ores that have
been done and will bo done, kofp to your
sell lorrver. And tbo win leu letters you
h..vo frout tuo, destroy tuetn tl you have not already
uooo ku. It to iircue.sury that everything shall nunm
011 to your own soouidors, lor li t glil aud liamc aud
lliahe.i and Misbnp smith nuva no nerve. You will thus
merit a high position 111 toe l.'hurcu and a celestial orowu
in tbo next w rid, and you shall have 1 Itv 111. Ketch
us many w ves us you w.iut and I will seal Ihum 10 >ou.
All the iuws, Droiher l.ee, thu exist between nc.ivtu
and bell can aid shall never toueii you ll my naino Is
kept iu 1 ho ba< kground so mat I oau wirt; or you. 1
repeal that Uu'nu, H.nglit, Hifhce, diewurt uhU bishop
Mm 11U have not Hi? in rvo to-i n 1 by anything; that t
buse lound out positively. Jos pli .smdli always said
you ware ibe only true arm ol tnoloi. Do as 1 tall
you, brother Loe. 1 hutr Hint next winter you will 00
in tlie Legislature. liltlllriAM YHI Mi.
Waiving comment ou this letter lor 11 moment, I re
quested Idaho Hi.I to go on and loll what be knew
nl mil It 1111 ite 11 aud ibo other children niter he left Har
mony und started Last.
' soul's or Tin-: captivc ciiildkkw.
"1 left Caroline l.oe's house,'' sal.I he, "in the spring
ol 11&8 Willi, t Itniik, about lour or live other children. ,
As wu proceeded lit tie squad* ol chtldrou Joined us
from cms 10 tune. I don'l know where ibcy !
came lroiu. Dr. Forney was in chargo.
ol all. I bo only other niun 1 recollect who was with
us was named Thomas Willi*, who piloioti us after we
hut .Spanish Fork. Wo moved nut from there Into ih?
tin in ti Valley, toward the cant. The Ural place we
?topped m w as La Forte, on I ho cache I.m I'oadre, iu
Colorado. There wan no town tbero then?only a trad
ing pott,"
"Do you recollect what children were wtih yon
thenY"
"I don't remember all of them I was so young,
and 11 was such a long iiuno ago; hut I rau toll you tbo
names of somo. When wu got to La Forte wa had
three sick children, two named llulT, daughter- of
widow HufT, who had ber throat cut at Mountain
Meadows, uud one nainoil Morton. The preltital Hull
girl D now living in Oasawotnmie, M 1*1111 county, Kan .
sod 1 Lei I you, sir, that, as little us I was then,
I've alw ays unco had the notion that sbo was Just as 1
pretty a child as ever stood In shoes. Tbo children'h
Barnes I recalled wore these:?
"Mary II. number, iny sister, three and a half year*.
"Tbo lluft children, u boy ol lour and ? girl of about
two nud a hall years.
"Charles Burroughs, three years, from Olathe,
Johnson county, Kan.
?-William Morgan, two and n half years, Kansas City.
"William Cooper, one and a hell years, and
"Jo-c|di Cooper, about three years, Lawrence, Kan.
SKKHIXO TKNOSAN'K IN ITaII.
"There wore plenty ol others ibat I didn't get ae
quumicd w ith. It was a pretty hard kind of a trip.
and I, lor one. was pan 10 pet through with It. At
Kai.aa* City.Dr. Korucy apprenticed mo at Ural to a
iiud named bloiu. I'li-re, about ?ix month* utter.
wird, 1 was bear 1 ol ami lukuti charge of by l?y uncle,
Mr. Whining r. I stayed wnb lain I ruin ibo wiutcr ol
184U to tuc vpriug of is 1. I wuni luto the aervioo In
Hie lutlcr year und r an o'd Iricint or my fatuer. who
is now in Cungroe.-. Billy William*. Ilo wan vent to
Washington Irom Hie north part cf luduna. A? tor
too. 1 stayed in ibo army through throe *Dli?tmonts.
I \v?* dsdjargod in 1MS.7- In llial year I
came wist to liah. cunced by promise* ot
Homo fb.OOO lo $l(l,i.00 vih?.li Hubert HsWiO.v,
of IvauaaS City, told 1110 I eoU.d get to establish my
| sell IU ousiocjs In Salt L.ko City. I was given to
uudorstuod that ibis money would bo luruUhcd by
tuc Jloituons ns a klu t ol sol-oll lor lint inur.lrr of
tny people. 1 got nothing Irom the Mormons, ol
cmr.e, aud ha l lo leave tlio country nihility quick
to save tny III?. Tbey (bought, 1 .uppuae, tbal I
knew too much. 1 weul to Moulun i lu lb.* spring ot
lHCit, und e rued some money lhal year. In ibo
spring ol lbtii 1 returned to I.'tab lor revenge, lint
bas been my object lu lib ever since, aud people
down in Southern I tuh know- it."
?'You mean b> revenge, I suppose, that you
wanted to puni.-b llii men who kil.e I your people
"That's exactly it. f irst I minted l.-o up at Old
Harmony; 1 was old enough then to look him lu tlio
eyes without getting up on a lootslool. lie accom
panied .no io l'augunch, where 1 met Stewart,
Haiuht. lllgboe anil a *inug-r. I ttppliod to them?I
rem mber it was ou a day when Daiim wns present?
lor stick and money thst rigluuilly belonged
to my lather at tho ntuo ol tlio mas
sacre, and which, or its equivalent, 1 wautcih
1 couMu'l get the least sniisluutiou. aud lor lour your*
1 tried lo get even with them in alio:Iter way. 1
worked imrt ol tho limn aud hunted them tho rest ol
the time. Uuoo 1 got very near tbeiu i louud ihetr
camp iu tho mountains where they w re scouting aud
keoplng away lroui llto oilicers, only throo or lour
hour* alter they had l-lt. Hut I never could get a loir
sight o! them. This lasted until 1871. wUon I went to
Montana, worked the whole summer there and came
h ick iigiun lo southern I tab. 1 lc>t Llati again in
1*7.1, for Idaho, rammed in the winter ol l*72d. and
spent ucarly the whole of that wtuter hauling alter
those Mouutaiu Meadows (lends 1 mot Leo toward
sprlug, an ! was stood oil oy a promise Irom hlai that
11 I would st iy out ul tho Territory, make no I is* and
say uothina 1 should have S12.00U, whtou tuey would
rales end pay over to mo at cerium times during the
next year. Dl course I never got a coot; they never
fulfilled any ol their promises 1 was out ol int uey
and bad to let thorn rest iiutil a year ago last New
Y ear's,'1878. I'lton 1 started utlur ihutu aunu, and
got into this trouble about iho treaiure-box ou the
stage,"
[The "trouble" which Idaho Bill so modestly al?
lu tes to was Iho icmlt ol the robbery ol it slt.go sta
lion, of Which bo wns convicted ut tho samo term ol
the court with John 1). Lee, and lor wU.cli ho was sen
tenced to lou years' imprisonment.?Lit, IIkkald.]
co.wikhatio.v mv oath.
1 now reverted to mo story which Idaho Bill had
told me in regard to tho extraordinary letters
Irotn Urlghum Young, and gave bun, one after the
other, the iollowing nuts to crack:?"(1) Will you
swear that you heard Ainusa Lyman read tho letter
dated August 15, l?57, and that vou huvo a corroct
copy of It so lar us tue sense and moaning ol it go?
(21 Will you swell to whut you have told roe In regard
to Mrs. Leo's giving you tue or.gmai teller Irom
ltrigbuiu Young lo Lue wruton alter iho massacro?
(it) Will you sweur to ibe statement you have uiado in
regard to your preservation ol that letter lrotn your
childhood r (4) Aro you able to rwear that you hayo
given uio Irom uiomory an ucctirate trunscript of that
letter? (5) Oun you swear that ibo letter Is actually
In Bcighsm Young's handwriting? (6) Uo you swear
tbal you kuow Hie present whereabout* ol the letter?
(7) Lac you prcdueo tho letter? and (S) will you produce
It to mo or to Mr. Howard. Unitud States District
Attorney If, on its prooi lo be genuine, ynu obtain the
promisu of your liberty?"
To those questions Id iho Bill gave prompt und dell ?
nite answers, inking bis solemn oath in tho afllrma
live, except when ho quabtled It by saying that
"perhaps ho hadu't got every word In the let.
tars exuotly atruigiil, but the meaning and almost
every sentence ho was sure wouldn't ho shared to
ditonnt'to "anything tt O**' oapitt o9fc tto hthis
which I read over to liini weru compared Willi ths
originals." tVhen I called his attention snow to tho
improbable tule that Briglium Young had so commit
ted himself in writing that Caroline, Lee's wile, bad
Intrusted him, n mere child, with a document which
common sense must have assured nor might bo neces
sary for the protection of her huaband's lilo, and that
she, who was on good terms with her husband up to
the time ol his execution, uuiitiod to come forward and
one snob a letter in Itta boball. Whon 1 called to bis
attention these discrepancies and also tho lurt thai
nelibar Leo himseli nor his invorite w.fe, Kachel, who
was wiib him to ibe last aud who must hiveboen in
torined by Lo* ot such loners il tbey were ever writ
! ten, ollored to produce copies ol them or asserted tboin
| lu i'ns uelence Idaho Bill squared hlmao f aud entered
I upmi this explanation:?
KAI I II IN JIK Hi IIAM.
??Duii'l you sco,'' ho siid, ' ibut I,to bud lost those
lette rs iiml liud no show/ Don't you sou that Caroline
Loo liud |iurtuil with tun principal Idler written by
ill lull tin Young to mo, ami could not produce it; nnd
don't you ?oe, liirtlicr, (lint Jiucliul probutily uover
suv tlio letter, and that it kiio d d her statement shout
It wouldn't b tvu been worth anything in court / What
would liuvo been tho use ot Leu or Itacoel
or Carolino or anybody tlso going Into court
utid swearing to sui.lt letters i! tlioy couldn't show
tliom ? Leo soppoeud thattheso letters were stolen
wiib the rest ol bis |?a| ers years ago Irotn Do liousu at
Lonoly Hot' Kerry. Why, 1 suppose Leo told mo titty
time- while we were in prison at Uetver together ib.it
il be could only ^'oi bold ol u letier that Hrighuiii
Young wrote blm bo could snap Ins lingers at tlicm all.
Just to tantalize hi in I tol.l him a IPllu about lite
Brigbam Young loiter tuat I bay'o lu my po sossion. 1
didn't leil him exactly that I bad the letter, lju.-t told
111 in cuough of it to let him know that I understood whul
it was. He aahi io mo, "Hill, you Know a good deal
inorc than I thought you did," and (rout tout tiiuo ho
comtneueed to make up to tuo and tried to Und out ull
I know. 11" promised that il 1 wou d nuuist htm when
lie wanted mo to w ith my testimony tio would sue thut
I got out ol prison all saio. Hut I never gavo my lull
cnuAdcucc to John IK Loo; (la tin him, I wanted him
tod.c. Mm w ithstanding his beltol tli it bu would got
oif 1 never took uuy stoik in iu 1 w.iu uonvincM
that ho v.as a dead man, sure. Ho thought j
to the very lust that Hrigbum Young would
save bim. Just hero lies the tinal auswer to
your question why tbojo Idiom I have got wore ]
not nil tided to by Lee or bis wives in bis iie.ruc, and
'
wby I jiw al lu'i call on in? to help bim by testily mg to ]
w hat I knew about Hrglutii Young. He bad given up I
nil hope through everybody but Krighum Young, j
lirlgliuni Young, you r. member (or, II you don't, 1 cati
tell you), had sunt hlin word, somo yu.ira before bo
was arrested, to keep quiet and ho would protect turn.
H' 'n 0 aWo aid to Ituchel, lit Heaver, 'that It John
would stand lirtn not u hair ol tils bead should bo
harmed..' Tbo very morning wlten tic loll tho Kent. I
it nti.iry hero and started towur I tbo puce ol bis oxecu- '
tlou ho sal i to tno, 'Bill, I'll be n free man In le-a than ?
twenty day*. Iltcy'rn inakiog a big th ug ol .1; thoy'ro ]
going to have quite a show. They're going to tnko uiu
lliiotigh a narrow pismge, and then they're going to
make me s.t down mi my collln. It'll Us i* big scuro, 1
Hill, hut at tho last minute it'll lie our way.'
"Wlty," exclaimed Idaho Bill itlrr-h, "Lee expect ml
Brighaiti Young would save him, even alier tbo hand
kert li in I wu? put over bis eye. He bad said to mu i
more than one iliat Hrigtiaiii would put up ? 1(H),000,
or oven fJdO.OOO to pri vont bin doatn. II L<:n bad
raised the bandkurcbtel from his eye? at the lust
moment and -con lite mu//.le? o| those guns he'd
have squawked, by (iodl Kvon Kachel, who lelt hero
tbe morning slier Lou did, was as confident
?show**. I naked her, Juit at I was saying goodby
to ber, whether she believed that tbe botd men ol tbo
Church would st ck by bim, and she replied, 'Ye*,
Hill, they will. When 1 was downtown, day beloro
yesterday, lllsbop Hunter said to uie, "Sisier Rachel,
keep your own counsel and tell Brother Loe to keep
In*. No barm shall come to bun." ' "
"SACKtD" COX*!PKNCK*.
"I'll go on now," continued llill, "to toll you wby
I Liter tuudo u-o ol this lotlor you ilnnk ?o much ol,
for toy own take, lu tbe Ursi place?yee cm bellero
It or not?I got that letter under audi cirttJtORiauoee,
nnd 1'vo carried it ho many years, that I've held it
kind o' Mcred, I novor thought o! using it untii the
lime ol my trial, when my counsel down ni Heaver
asked me one way H 1 uad auy papers relating to any
of tho Mormons in connect.on with the Mountain
Meadows massacre .' 1 told him I bad. lie d; lo'i ask
me ttio inriicuUr* about ihein; b? ony ?? <1. 'You'd
better nam tbeni un and lake good ?: ?ru not to lose
tbeiu ' Next, as 1 \o told you. I didn't dec the letter
lo connection whb Dec bccauso I didn't iielievo ho
could do me any good, as in- promised to. and becau-.e
1 knew bo wa* guilty and ought to he exoculoj.'
"But why have you never spoken lo Mr. Howard or
Marshal Ncltou aliout it
"to icll you tbo truth, t didn't have much of an
opiuiou u( Huward lor a goo J |(,n ? while This wasn't
lor the reason that he helped to get tno Into this
scrape, although I'm a# innocent as yud are of wnal
they sent mo bore lor; it was because I thought h<
Was dealing loo goutly with John l>. laic. I.en h id all
sorts of privileges here; ho could go dowu town with
out Irons, wrliile 1 w- s tuk'U out in haodenls, and loi
two weeks they kept mo hack here in a cage No, sir,
1 dlin't go much on Howard until I hard that J >lto
Ik I.eo was shot. Then I g it a uewr opinion of Hub
and Nelson. St til. be never seemed lo lawo much in*
j tcresl In Inquiring about what I knew or whether I
knew anything or not. I -lit u ud h m a .short wrrten
statement ouce about iho in - icre, b it I never heard
anything Iroin it and suppose ho didn't think It wis
of much account. It didn't have either or the letterg
in that 1 have given you. You iro tbu only mm. Mr,
, that knows any:lung about this last letter tUal I
have got iu Driglmiii Young'* own Handwriting."
WIIBIB IS Tilt: lb itch f
"Where Is that letter, Dili? Is it within reach,
wheru I e?n bo permitted io ?eo it ant satisfy myself
that you are not mistaken and that It is not a for
! gery ?'?
"It la in Southern L'tah. of coarse you won't ask
tn ? to say ex.utly w ,ere It is nut I 1 can understau,d
what good it w ill do me. I'm in here for ton years,
and that letter is ihu < uly tinny, by God! that 1'vogot
i to help me iu a I this world. I've got to luko care of
1 mystill, and 1 ain't sure w.i.-h aide 1 intent do iho bos'
with "
Just hoforo I hade adieu to Id tho Hill lie slid:?"I'll
toll you . Dottier little ihtig that you can put into Hie
paper II you wuut to. \ year ?r two ego, wheu I was
down South, I used to run .bout N w Year'.- with on*
ol llaigbl's d.iUglileis II.titled Kill >hc Was about
sixteen or scvcuiccu yours old. (luec, when we got to
miking about Mountain Meadows, sliu sunl to mo,
'Hill, if ever pt gets snubbed tnov'II -on some loners
that lie's gut that'll show up Brtghum Youug mighty
quick.'"
lltAIKI hill's written ktoky.
Tbo lollowiug is a copy uf Idaho Dill's wrl'ten ststo
ment to which ho reh-rs ubov - and which lie sent to
District Attorney Howard last February. I need not
add that Mr. Howard, to whom I Invo exhibited copies
o( the letters alleged by Bill to he tu his possession,
wnl lose no Hmo lu testing Ins voracity:?
Kkdrlmry 16, 1S77.
"The train split up at Cinon Fort, eleven in lies -outh
ol .Silt l.ako City. Father took ehirgool the train
and started to move on to Culitoruia. The ttrsi c imp
was Lehl; second, l'rovo; third, sprtngvllle?ramped
there one or two days; lourth, I'ondtown; tilth, Salt
Creak; sixth, I.ovju; seventh, Sevier?there camped
a day or two?eighth, ltouud Valley; ninth, Cedar
Springs; tenth, * Fillmore; eleventh, Corn Creek;
twre'lth. Dry Camp In Dog Valley; ihlrtoenth, Covo
Creek; lourteontn, I'mo Creek; lllteenih, Indian
Creek; sixioenth, Beaver; sovctitecuih, Buckhorn
Springs; eighteenth, l'urownn; nineteenth. Cedar
City, aud bought hour; twentieth. Iron Springs;
twenty-nrst, Autelopo eprings; twenty-second, Dry
Camp; iwenty-tlnrd. Mountain Meadows; camped
about a hundred yards southeast ol tbu Springs?worn
driven into camp by tho Indians.
"Camped there six or seven "lays. Tho Indians and
the Mormons were killing the stock aud wounding tho
emigrants 'l'ue llag ot truco c.imo aud lather sur
rendered, giving up the arms, and tho'J John D I.eo
came In aud sal down. Father ?v<s burying ?
woman that was snot The next tliui eamo wad
Higher, lie (old Lee that il.ilght said bnrry up.
That the Indians weie mad nut so wis
ho. Then father had tho urms put luto a wugoh, an I
lour wounded iiicu uiid a boy ami girl were put in o
the tamo wagon and the children uli into another
wagon. Then lather had the families all tail luto
ranks, wheu Uigboe ordered the w a.ons i ? move out
of the corral nod the families to lollow When we all
got out of the corral the loams went ono way aud tho
famine* went M? the right and we tu the lett. John ['
I.eo lollowcd behind our wagon, and when we got orop
a litllo ridge wo heard the bring ol guns, and, a few
minutes allerwanl, Iho Indians und a low Mormons
ciiim arouud us aud took tho wuuatt.'d out ol llio
wagon and killed them, but Joan D. D o did not kill
anybody, lie begged thein lo spa-o our lives. Jake
Hutnblin, McMurdv and McKnight look a hand in tiio
killing. Deo cried, saying, 'For God's sake, spare tho
children.'
"Then they took us children to n unldtu's r.incho and
stopprd ull night. They took us to Cedar the next
day, and tuen Groves took inu to D -o's. Caroline D<-a
took care ol me. I ??< there six montlns when II nub
liu rauin unit look mo out and nsked mo tl I knew who
killed the wh'tes. t tola him that 'the Indians -lid it,'
lor Mrs. D o said lor inc to tell them so or they would
kill ma
?Tlic n?xt who camo was Ama?a Lyman, lit
! wanted to know ol mo who killed the cmur.-inls. I told
| III Hi that tbo Indian* dtd. lie naked John I). Leo to
see Mime letters Una he had and Leo obowed them to
I him. Lvmau road Ihem and bunded them back 10 Leo,
lolling ti I in to savo ttieni, at some any they would do
I)fin aonio good. Mr-. Loo then culled mo away, and
i told mo to go back . nl listen to overt word that tlioy
1 laid, and 10 come an < toll her. I did ?u, and heard
! Lyman tay to Leo that i-omo day ho und all tbo rest
would have to un-wer lor what they had done; that
Iirlglmm w ia to blani". an J so was Gourde A. Smith;
that ho (Lyman) w.ii sorry lor it, and that it would hurt
tho Church. Then I wont to Mrs. Leo and told her
wh it lliey biild. She ml i m ? every ?xy th it tbo Mor.
minis Killed my (atlier n id Mother, but 1 mutt not toll
aoy Dim or the Mormons would kill me. Ii any oi in?
murderers came nrnuod sho would tell me who thoy
were. Slew art cuinu ?ad((hsrroied with Loe, and sha
told mo ho helped in kill llio emigrants.
"Now 1 want nine to straighten inytslf out, for out*
Aiders will mi j I lit I It ia a p.uy to gut out o I
prison; out it is nut so. I nui lulling tho truth.
I havo got the W'irs.i ul it ever siucu 1 ha\ e heen Ar
rested. I have hid no show to huild inysOli up.
I hey havo told Colonel Nelson a thousand lies whila
1 b*w only told Iiiiu two. one ol them w is last
spring, ut Leaver, aird tho ulhor WAS last fall. It was
about 1 enn when you .eiegr.iphcd to ??? to know
If Did been sreu down lh.il Way.
"I he Mormon- w-ro glad to hour that I was arrested.
Now, I Waul (lino io provo up what I say. I am ulouo
hero?without iriondA, wllh the exception of ono
sis er. 1 have not told you halt that 1 can About (ha
Mouiitaiu Meadows in tssucrst Mrs. Let drilled mo to
recoiled everything. 1 think I havo given youths
camp right. 1 liivo travelled them often Klnco lor
the purpose ol catching 111:4bee, lor ho la the una wuo
killed my 1st her. 1 trie I to get out I m lull to got him,
but no olio would bollove me. 1 w ill close and trust to
you, hoping that you will not be like the rest Yours,
truly, CHAUI.LS lUAl'CHUk"
LKS pX IDAHO BILL.
.InAt iis I nm closing this .utter s paper cotnoi into
my bands w bich lunus addition il interest to iL Tho
paper contains u stalutnrnt made iu regard to Idsho
llill by John l>. Lee just beloro his c\ouUllon. It
curmusly corroboruts's, in some r' spools, what Idaho
llill bus ?n 1, und whilo it should be bornu in roiud by
the reauor lb it Lee nnd Idaho llill may have "conked
up," while thoy wi re in prison together, a story lot
their III 11 Mi a I net!' lit ths two siori - as here published
do not ou their luces ? nilrciv justify such n conclusion.
"1 his man, known ns M 1I10 Hill, I mo t po.-itively
Irelieve Is ouo id 1I10 uhildrou who wore saved si the
Mountain Meadows luas-a*. e, and th it he le tbo aou of
Captain C. Gaucher, o! Hie Arkai sisci tupitny ol emi
grants. He Was ubou' nine or ten years old wbeu I
rescued him. 11 e Isms are these:? Tho Iudiana attacaed
(ho wagon .but Conia tied the children at tbe Meadows;
ono ol thorn aitlsed this lad by tho hair 01 ibo head,
jvrkid in in down und cut his chin on the wagon box.
I took him hum ; he lived with my wives Kaohel and
Caroline, una olun slept at the loot ol the Led with
Caroline. 1 me she indulged him in because he was to
frightened ubout the Indians that he would scream nut
in Ills sleep. While l.v>ug wi.n her he cut the hig toe
of nis lell loot nisr the second Joint. He was ol rather
dark complexion, w 11I1 keen Mfltk eye* and black or
rnther nark brown hair, which was as coirsc and
straight us an Indian's. <>oo day Jacob II unidin 1 am*
nod look lilui out of the door to talk with turn. It wai
in Urn e\ eiaug, and before be wont out 1 told him to
tay nothing to ilimbiin, not to spook ol bis own
lather and not to mention tuo names ol any of thu
, coiujMuy, lor if be did tomobudy would kill him. The