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expected to make clear without delay. The German reservation that noth ing be donb that would bo Irreconcll ablo "with German honor probably ylll to put up to Marvhal Poch. The f feildent Is hot golltff to- be placed In the ftha position 6t btetng a mediator between his allies and his enemies, no matter how hard Germany tries. German Poattton AVenker. The German answer did hot Cause great surprise here because It had been forecast. Whereas tho bkpecla tlon when tho President's nolo was sent a week ago thai Germany Would resent Its tone and stiffen her resist' ance for a while, developments of the last few days have Indicated that con ditions In Germany were such thai ac ceptance ot the terms was almost im pcratlve. Despite the fact that the language is Involved and ambiguous and despite certain conditions" Which tho German , uovcrnmeni uaeu nns injecteu inio ino ddestioh bt evacuation ahd an artnts-1 tic, the German ant'iver lb nh accept-1 once, although nn awkward one. WlthiWhien is inclined to tano the uerman respttt to the Prcsldent'a charges of I fi.t,ehlehiB hnlned In to-day's note at Inhumane ncttdhs oh the part of Gr many the German Government coun ters by disputing the filets cited by the President, but this does not Involve Contesting the principles contained in the communication. In tho resident's- last note to Ger many, It la pointed out, distinct and separate references to the1 Armistice proposal and the proposal for peace vers made. Oh the. ttlbro Immediate question ot evacuation and armistice the President said: ' "It tnUkt be clearly understood that the process of evacuation and the con ditions bf ' an armistice are matters which must bo left to the judgment and advice ot the military advisers of tho Government .of, the United States and the allied Governments, and tho President feels it his duty to say that no arrangement can be accepted by the Government of the United Slates Which, does' not provide absolutely sat lsfactory safeguards .and guaranties of the maintenance of the present mili tary supremacy of the nrmles of the United States ahd the allies In the Geld." IVant Vole la ArranKements. The German Government how re pllea "that the procedure of this evac uation Anjl of the' conditions of an armistice should tye left to tho Judg ment of tho military advisers ahd that the actual standard of power on both Idea In the field has to form the basis for arrangements safeguarding nnd guaranteeing this standard." Obviously this means that the Gor man High Command must, according to the German Government, havq an equal voice with the .allied and Amer ican military leaders In arranging terms of the evacuation and armistice, ahd that tho Entente and tho United Itates must submit to German de mands for safeguarding Germany's present military strength, just as Germany must' submit to enemy de mands safecuahllntf theirs. Otherwise there could be no possible arrange ment for safeguarding and guarantee ing ''the actual Standard of power on both sides." In one sense this Is a reiteration of the Germah suggestloh for a mixed "com mission to arrange for the terms of afmlstl:e, except that the mixed commis sion Is to be made up exclusively of military men. It Is recalled that the Get-man Idea of a mixed commission wda authoritatively described as entirely un acceptable. With the allied military sit uation as It Is there Is little reason to believe that such conditions would be acceded to by Foch and Halg and Per shing. "Standard" Itlnlcult to Ptx. The question ot the "actual standard Of 'power on both sides" would be diffi cult to determine If the Allies were to agree to it. Gen. Pershing's army, for example. Is now opposed by a force Which has made Its progress very slow tor some days, and In his very last re port Gen. Pershing speaks of the con centration of German divisions holding hll ttoops at bay. Therefore the actual standard of power here i nbout equal tor tho present, at least in the eyes of military men. The standard -of power existing be tween Field Marshal Sir Douglas llaig's icrces and the opposing German forces appears to be slightly In favor of the British, but here, too, It Is dlfllcult to gauge accurately because the Germans ore now engaged in a strategic retreat which Is admittedly being carried out In a masterful manner, but which by its Very nature Involves withdrawal before the allied forces. Germans Can Hold 'tJntll Sprlua. The consensus of General Staff offi cers Is that Marshal Poch now has a certain margin of superiority over .the enemy, but It Is not contended that this superiority Is In any sense decisive. The view Is freely expressed that the Qfermann. when they fall back to pre - pared potations, will linVo Sufficient dor ,0 lhe German Empire, said of tho force to hold the offensive In check Un- url0ffCiHi version of the German hote til American rcenforcemenU reach the 1 last nBht ttt na apartments In the lilts battle lino next spring. Carlton: With the added American man power "Who" could be gulled by such an eva and the tremendous Increase In gun power I BonT Tne president has said that there coming from the United States, aside i ,,. be n0 moro tnlk. He has said that from Increases In equipment, airplanes, Ac, th military experts are emphatic In stating that the superiority will be decisive by next spring or summer. But there Is no Information to show that It Is fe&lly superior In any marked degree i ndw, If the allied military authorities vir tually were to give Germany credit foi AA approximately equal military force the Germans themselves would perhaps claim even more nnd want the armistice arranged on such lerms as could in no way cripple tha righting organliatloti PoW held Intact by the German High Command. All these questions have been suggested by more careful reading of Germany's answer, but with little thought that Marshal Foch and the al lied Generals will seriously consider these German conditions. Anxious to Satisfy un Terms. Tho Important fact, however, which is not overlooked nhd which has as sumed greater significance the moro the answer has been studied, Is that on the question of peace terms as dis tinguished from tha armlstlcft propos al, the German Government on paper at least apparently goes to somo lengths to satlsy the President. "Hitherto the representation of the people in thn German Empire has not been endowed With an Influence upon the formation of the government," tha communication states. This Is tanta mount to admitting that the President has been right In demanding repre sentative government In Germany and Is believed to have been shrewdly put forth now to pava tho way for promised reforms, Germany proceeds to state that condi tions "have Just undergone a funda. mental change" lu effect Germany says tha people are now truly repre sented and that consequently the Pleat dent's terms tn this respect are already ,,,.,., .... Officials here frank y ndmlt tiiee I. nr. way of knowing whether the German Government Is telling tho truth In these! statements. Only the future. can estab lish that. It IS conceivable that tlio war lords and Imperialists might even And a way to throw all these, paper reforms overboard tho moment their object of escaping the consequence of the war had been achieved. . Pnsnewter Hhips Immune. The German statement that henceforth BUblnftrlhos Will hot slhk pabHehger Ships comes at a time when It 1a Impossible to know whether the German Admiralty docs hot believe all effective damage tt passenger hlllbs hail nlreatljr beh nrtttti pIUliM and that eonseiUcMiy Germany mAy how safely refrain from further murder on the high mm. 'The measures taken by the Entento and the United Utates at the post bf bill ions have In a eehse rendered paateriger Ships Immune, hhd neutral Governments, particularly Rpaln, are showing sighs of breaking 'With Germany because of the submarine Attacks. Therefore from from every point of view It appears a Wise course hOw for Germany to call off Attacks on passenger Vessels, Ahd emciAis wpiam that the oerman gov. offer t0 trade this form of Waf fare off ror what it regards as prospective assist- ' ahoe to peace negotiations. There Is Uhdenlabty Aft element here their face value and to regard the note as evidence that Germany concedes she has been whipped and sincerely desires to meet every condition laid down by tho President, Out even those holding firmly to this View concede thAl the Allied com manders must be the Ones to lay down the condition fbt- evacuation and the guarantees that the President has said must be required. Complete. evaCUattAh Ot All invaded terrltomthe President has said, must pre cede anVtrmlstlce. According to one high ofnclsd, 'peace with an Armed Germany would be unthinkable) hence lh armis tice hitlst be thkt accepted by Bulgaria, which called for complete demobilization and the. surrendering of her arms and Implements of warfare to the Allies. The lest Will' come when Germany receives these terms-"rVOm tho allied-Commanders. DICTATED PEACE IN BERLIN ADVOCATED British Statesmen Say Thit Would Have Most Weight. SptcUt Cable Dttfitth fo Tdc St. CoptHaKt, 11I; all riiSt rtttntd. London, Oct. Si. A well Informed Drlttsh diplomatic authority rays : "Many Englishmen have made up their minds that Berlin is the place where the Germans must be told what they will have to do In the way of reparation and what punishment Is to be meted out to the criminals who caused the war and are responsible for' IU Unnecessary hor rors. "Moms Frenchmen arc Inclined to the notion that the German peace delegates should be brought to Paris, In retaliation fur the humiliation Prussia Inflicted on France forty-seven years ago. "American Frenchmen nnd Brltorts can be found whose opinion It Is that poetic justice would be done If the peace conference were held In Brussels, with King Albert as president" This Irn't the view of the British statesman, who continues: "A peace dictated on German soli would have more weight With the goVernlog classes In Germany than anything else." There probably will be another gather ing of allied .Ministers In Paris this week to prepare for any new move made by Berlin lb replying to President Wll son's note. URGES PUNISHMENT OF WAR CRIMINALS Serbian Premier Would In clude 130 German Professors. Spteiat Calif Pttpatch to Tn Scs. Copyright, ltlll ill Hfhtt rrxrred. London, Oct 21, M. PaShltch. pre mier Minister of Serbia, told Tub Kvh correspondent to-day that It was for the Allies as n whole to decide who Is to be punished for the crimes of the war and to decide what the punishment Is to be. "If the Kaiser abdicated," said the Serbian statesman, "he would be sure to come back In a year or two. No sort of written agreement would prevent him from returning. Only force will accom plish that result. Once at peace Prussia gladly would welcome him back on the plea that she had the right to determine her own rulers. "We must make It Impossible for Prus sia ever again to have It in her power to impose her will on other peoples. At the same time It must not be overlooked that 13(1 of the principal professors of Germany openly declared for tho support of the war and advocated Germany's 'cause.' They upheld the Inhumane methods of warfare practised by tho Germans, nnd they must therefore be In cluded In the Indictment that the Allies will draw up." REPLY GULLS NO ONE, SAYS J. W. GERARD Defeat Only Argument, "Matin" Editor's View. I Gtranl. fnrmorlv Amh.iiin Qermahy must surrender to the military forces of the Allies. Who believes that the President will even take cognizance ot such transparent hypocrisy as now comes from tho Imperial German Gov ernment? "Germany Is beaten, knows it and Is scheming frantically to gain time. Her subterfuges, her tricks, her evasions are, ns usual, a mutture of cynicism, eurront ery and stupidity, flavored by cunning. I don't believe a single American citizen with the Interests of America nnd of clvllliatlon nt heart will pay much more attention to tho German reply than he or she would to any other Junker mado ebullition from Potsdam." fitephan Lauzanne. editor of tho Paris iralln. now In this country on a mission for France, said: 'The note proves ab so u ; y no'tlnhg eltCept tha't'lt Is uselesi to hav any consultation with Germany . The Oermnns pretend, as usual, that they have always: conducted war In the most hu.nano manner. There Is no uso In trying to convlnco them that what they haVo done at I.llln, Poual and else where Is neither humane nor In accord ance with International law, The only way lo convince them of anything Is to take Frankfort, Cologne and other Ger man cities and administer to tho Ger mans some of the samo treatment they havo administered lo France nnd Bel Blum. In other words, the only argu ment that Can Impress tho Germans Is deeds, accomplished facts. Leave that to Foch. He knows what to do and will do it." Sniper Kills Mnjor-Gen, Upseti, Uy the AtuHattd Pttti. LonpoN. Oct. 31. Major-Gen. U J. Llpsett, C. B.. C. St. G.. recently com mahder of tho Thlnt Canadian Division and n general staff officer, has been killed. He 'was shot by a German sniper I wiiiiu inspecting voauions ni me ironL 1 J.i IJl. Z.l' .JU Uriush Army In 18H. " lno N,Y. PRESS-SCORES mm HYPOCRISY , Confession of Ilrtttnl Suvngcry Not Graceful, Says tho "Times.4' END IS n At)TrTTlT.ArHtnM OAJ. llU.Ua 11 Vfl nTnV tfnf-ltn Thill YpftV llllt I juaj kojo mm lcm uu. ib Sure to Come Filially, Declares hWortfl. the editorial eent-netlls 6 Ji'fti Vorfc hCirnarr oit ike latest OertHan toeace I Dleo nrc ai follows. Jf -W fork Tlnie The Germans have not yet icarnco to understand, mucn irss iu iireitn vur iaiinunno cc. ...... We nsy regard their latest note as a German effort to meet the President's demahds. In part It does mbve toward them,. but haltlngty and with evasions. hotably In respect to me auanuonmcnt of inhuman practices contrary u mo laws of war on lea ahd land; but In other parts It ring false, It Is colored with those deceptions and hypocrisies Which we have come to rcganl as insep arable from the processes of the Germhn i mind. - I While the note Is nofTT 'compliance i with the demands of Mr. Wilson, It Is an ; Avowal of defeat It Is a contession inai . Germany has conducted the war not line I A civilised nation but wltn nrutai sav agcry. Hho does not conies grncnuiij or like a penitent thAt was not to be expected. 1 She almost throws herself on the mercy ot President Wilson. prACtlCAlly begging him not to approve of demands "which would be Irreconcilable with the1 honor of the German people." Ab they long ago parted with the last vestiges of their hohor, that plea In extenuation Will Avail little. The terms of peoco will be Just to the rest of the world, however harsh GenhAny and the German peoplo may deem them to be. It remains for thert not to choose the terms but to ac cept whatever terms may be Imposed. The World We have here an unac ceptable assertion as to tho liberalisa tion of the German Government, Which everybody knows Is not yet truo: a de nial of the very ntrocltles at sea and oh land that brought the United States Into the war; a request fof- A commission to discuss the matter, and finally n grudg ing aeceptonce of the Idea that tho armis-. tlce which It seeks must be granted by , V. 11 1 , Mnmrnnnriara 111 tha field. With the ''trust" that the United BtAlca . will snhrove of ho demand on their part that wilt prove humiliating to tho Oer man people, who are not yet In control of their own government. Unsatisfactory as this communication must be regarded, we Are bound to ad mit that It shows progress. As win said Ih these columns when Germany first en tered upon these peace manoeuvres a few weeks ago, Berlin will coihe again and again with Its propositions, nnd capitu lation will be the end of them perhaps not this month, perhaps not this year, but finally. New York Herald In Its talk about armistice, autocracy has nothing else In view than Its desire to eaVe the harried and battered armies of Germany. Its assertion that It has ordered Its U-boats to refrain from torpedoing passenger vessels has 1ne same value as German autocracy's other promises of fair deal ing, and that means no value at all. Its protertatlon that It has not resorted to Wilful vandalism and to f rimes unspeak able Is' given Hie lie by the rovelatlohs of every city nnd town In France and Bel glum reclaimed from Its grasp. To-day, as ori the heels of lhe Amer Irnn nota of October 8. the demand of the American people will be no nrmls- ( lice, mraw'"""1'; " ' ' " r peace until inere is i open mi. '" " defeat by whatever govern " . t manv may have, and no tnougni oi peace , until the German armies nave surren dered unconditionally. The Trihnne Exhibit V In the diplo matic correspondence between Germany and the United States ort the subject of an armistice with the Hun and peace with him thereafter appears this morn ing on the front page of every news paper. It It does not raise such a storm of disgust ana anger k win nmu mo door from this side hard enough to drop the bolt and put an end once for all to thefe offending negotiations. c u of us deserve tno consequences nui um those of us who nro responsible but those others also who for any reason forbear to speak their misgivings out. New Tork (lermanlleroM An exami nation of the wireless version, as It has re.irhM Us. seems to show that there Is at least some endeavor on the part of n.mmnv to fulfill the basic conditional as enunciated by Mr. Wilson. We trust the German rulers are, ai ian.i incunru to let reason rule and see things as they are, PLACE NO RELIANCE ON GERMAN WORDS'. Newspapers Doubt Sincerity of Reformation. FoIIotHnff ore expressions 0 opinion upon the Carman reply by representative tlfirnnrrr (ArOUOlOUt fne COUntri. Baltimore Htm In brief, the German i undoubtedly will be of such a nature note Is explainable on the theory that 1 that If Germany accepts them she will "the arbitrary power which separately, ' have accepted unconditional surrender, secretly nnd of Its single choice" dls- , Germany has devotetl tho beat part of turned the peae of the world has been four years to convincing the World that not overthrown precisely, but nt least she has no sense of International obllga subdued; It Is also explainable on the tlon. no sense of honor, no pride In her ZorTiul ZXZ are mere camouflage, Intended to dls- tract tho attention of Germany's enemies I tract , until such a time ob she can pull herself out of the desperate hole into which she bas been plunged nnd tn help her In that endeavor. Everything depends on which theory is the correct one. Impassible to Believe Hlnrrre. St. l.ottll (llolie Ilemornil When wo think of the proofa filed upon proofs thnt havo been accumulating through fo.ir years of the .terrible barbarity' ahd t s cIearI determined. It Is ex inhumanity of the German army and the w , , difficult If not Impossible serl Gennan navy, directed and supported by . ,' , ,.,. ,,,, ,,, r. I Mi-MIn boiling at feffi t lmpOI)1mo to believe in the sincerity f nny paragraph In the document, Whatever It menns It Is wholly u'nsntts- factory nhd wholly hypocritical. It does of a eatlsfnctory peace With Germany, not come to the point. It Is ft mere I First. ho must realise that sho Is beating about the bushes to gain time, soundly beaten. Second, alio must sub to save tho German race. ' mil without shuffling or equivocation Is It possible that a despotism s strongly established that It has shaken .he world to Its foundations can be over thrjwn by n few men whispering In ft rnnlerf Can We yet believe that the horns ahd the spiked tall of the beast aro nut hidden beneath this lamblike coat? Do we know upon this ex pnrte statement with Whom we are dealing! Ucyuul a peradventureT It does seem to us that President Wil son's note of Inst week should stand as the ultimatum of tha Allies And ot civili zation and that until Germany comes to Us terms In plain words' nnd with the uncontestlblo proofs of Its sincerity in Its hands, wo should haVo no further dis cussion. Memphis Commercial-Appeal Rolf en ters a plea of confession1 nnd avoidance; It Is vacillating, nebulous and weak, It the aerman fundamental lay -ha .THE SUN, TUESDAY, been changed so aa to give the people full representation ahd the tight tot veto What guarantee cAh Germany give that iw soon as the pteseht difficulty Is over theft rights wilt hot AgAIn be taken nwnjf from tho people, T The eftllra Ger inanla conversation has been It WAite- it time and a diversion from the main thing. The German emplte must be de stroyed. Tho German army rtttist bo destroyed, aerman hultur muet be an nihilated and the German peoplo must bo clvlllsea. piy Of Germany to the President's t.l-,l- (datum Is tho greatest step toVfatd petM ,h,, Government hss taKen, Through tn8 nfie phrases with which Dr. Belf ' seeks to butter the black bread of ile i ftat the ultimate victory of 'the Allies 'can be Aecn. But Ihls Is not enough. men thWa nrtJmleM of a chan(,e(1 ao.. eTnmenl snail be backed by sufficient guarantees, when the Constitution has actually been altered and tho general franchise actually given, then only can terms of peace be laid down by the Al lies, v In. lis details ahd In, Its phrases tho note Is Unaallsfaclory. value In parts nhd controvottlnl Ih others. rhllaaelbhlA Pnblt t.roSer The mns- ters of Germany have made many hlun- ders In Waging the war Which they with malign purpose precipitated upon the , amaked, Iricredulnux. Unprepared man kind, but they have made no othtr blun- ,jer whlch nt all BpprOnches In conse- r(Uences 0f incalculable coil to them- pelves the colofsal blunder, far exceeding a crime, br destroying world eonnaenco In their own word. ... Far above the Importance of making sure whdse voice It Is which now ap-, p,ni ror peace stands the Importance i ot maklhg sure that no power In Ger- niany. Prince or people, soldier or Bo- clallst. can under any circumstances re- sumo tile war. For t'ncnndltlottnt SnrrendeV. Philadelphia Inquirer Whether the President acted wisely or Hot In an- pearlhg to oped the door to dlFrusslon ' he will not represent tno overwhelming sentiment nt this nation Unless he now closes that door with a bang. . . . In bHer, hothln less than Uncondi tional (surrender will fill the bill. Philadelphia Preti What effect this note will have in Washington remains to be seen, but we suspect that It will give a new Impulse to the passage of the pending Lodge, resolution that "It Is the sense of tne benate that there should bo ho further cohimunlcat on . v. . . "'"making a show of doing something to subject of an armistice or conditions .f , mMt oUt but ther real obJeclv0 peace xcept a demand for uncondl tional surrender. Best Kdncator Prof. Foth. nmfnn Herald To ludtre from the un official text Get-many has sent to the President a very specious reply. "The volco Is tho volco or Jacob, but tho hands are tho hands of ESnU." j Nelthor do we see any use In this note writing from the Standpoint of edu- catimr the German ueoule. Even If we assume that they are elmple, misguided ment nt last recognizes the fart that the folk, needing only o have the Iron yoke German people cannot be led any longer of their masters broken to return at by the privileged few. The note lndl onco Into the paths of rlahteousness, the cntes that the CIrmnn people will pee best educator after oil-Is Prof. Foch. ' that Germanv fulfils all the promises and We hope the President will break off pledges It makes to the President these negotiations by proclaiming at once tho keynote of the situation, uncondl- tional surrender. The Germah people ana tneir ruiers musi trust 10 tne mag- nanlmlty of the Allies. Paradoxical as It may seem to tne uerman mino. uer- unrepentant of her crimes against hu many will fare far better If she abandon nianltv. We say again, lit Marshal the hopeless task of bargaining nnd j'och dcslde. stands naked and helpless and repentant I Kaunas City Times Germany Is before the world. j i,paten : fundamentally beaten. .She Chlrago Trlbnne The elucidation of might fight on for months. But her Herr Bolf of the Internal political sltua- doom is written in the language she tlon and constitutional changes In Oer- ' understands the language of arms, many does not seem to us to be such as ' . . . The only possible ieace I the to offer the assurances demanded by tlio peace of unconditional surrender The President in emphatic terms nnd repent- sooner Germany ls given to understand edljv They are assurances sent forth In , 'his tho better. the shadow of the throne. Pittsburg Oajette Times Vnlon The Ho far ns we know the vise of Luden- I attitude of all the foes ot the autocratic dorff and Hlndcnburg Is on their com- Powers must remain unaltered by this placent phrases. So far as we know the latest note from Berllh. The war must parties In Prussia which willed this war are at Maximilian's elbow at this mo- ment Their army, we know, 1b still In being and fighting with destructive ile- termination. Their fleet Is still waiting under the iruns of their fortresses. Their Kiihmnrlnes nre tl!l Rtrllrfni? deAth on --, - tho sea. If we merely ask words. , pledges, new wraps of paper, we can I have them a plenty and Potsdam will countersign them readily. Until Potsdam and what Potsdam stands for has been laid low, either by the German people or by our own power, our nrmles will fight on. Atlanta l.'onntltutlon The last Ger man peace note to President Wilson Is Involved and nmblguous. So long as tho j HuM war ,ord, are dIsp'0s01, tn contnu0 , ,hc lelter wrltng business the best thing to do Is to deal with future communlca Hour with them as we did with Austria Hungary, which was respectfully re ferred to the Crocho-Klnvak Government for further terms. Now let us refer all further communications from Germany to Gen. Foch. Cletelan.l l'Jaln Healer If the Ger man Govprnmetit'rt rpitntntlnn fnr vfMf. Miea by tho Kaiser's long courso of j ( trickery and deceit the people of the i United States would be moro Inclined to accept at face value this latest peace idea from Berlin. President Wllnon hss In effect declared that Germany can have peaie only upon an unconditional sur- tt Germany Is ready to eurren der, she knows very well how to do so It requires, no Interminable excjiange of tirttM tn lirlni- fhfit nttntif Kansas City Star There Is only one way to get down to brass tacks with i n-rmnnv. Tlmt lu fr th mllUnrv omin. ' dl of ,he A, antl t)ie ttntr(1 ,mtes, . unapr Maishal Foch. to nnnounco terms ' for the i,r.,,w..,l nrmlulli.n Thorn terma pledger w With' such a inYt.on we cannot deal In the ordinary way. Cincinnati Knuulrer Germany's latest message is more n protest man a repiy, more a dental of the charges made by . i President Wilson than an answer to his Indictments of barbarism and Inhumane warfare. Of courso there are the usual Geiman promises to be good, but not Im mediately, as this In so far as subma rining passenger ships Is concerned "for technical reasons" cannot be guaranteed. Until the question of who really con stitutes the present German Govern- ! win' approve" no demand" w Idch tirGlnuanToMeBble W"h "nr llle ""'" , Philadelphia lleeord There nto threo i essential prtrequlstes to the conclusion to Hie conditions which military defeat entalk. Third, sho must make this sub mission through rcspotuilbln govern mental agencies clearly differentiated from those which she employed lo pro voke and conduct this war. The unoffi cial version of the new German note doCN not sufficiently Indicate that' theuo pre requisites have been met, Washington (II, f.) Post The com munication Is nothing else than an ef fort to obtain relief for the German army by uttering a series of false hoods and falM promises to President Wilson, , , , Thero should be only one answer hereafter to anything Germany may say: "Surrender to Foch." ltnldgh (N. (!.) News and Olurrrer The answer of the German Government to President Wilson la not satisfactory. Yet it la so great an advance of any' OCTOBER 22, 1918, thing Germany has yet proposed that II mutt be regarded with gratification by every bhe Who WAnt to seo Ger many submit to Mm that will mean adequate humiliation And punishment Tor her fthd Wilt put Ah end to tho war. Detroit Free Tress Tho German ro piy Is a mlitture of effrontery and an effort nt conciliation. It endeavors to placate and deceive by magnifying small concessions and by vague or conditional promises which are quite lacking In de pendability, The best Immediate an nwer to the communication will be the ton!- bf rbch'o cannon. U Pnal Pioneer i-res certainly there is nothing In the latest dermnn MjhimUhlcatloh' that call for An answer from tho President And what may aermany expect from Marshal Koch? Tho commahder In Chief of the allied forte will be guided, of course, not only tiy the military situation nut uy Ik. . . it t , I ....II.,.. nr 1 1. r!nvriim.h(. trm itf, f10 Hoian hit command. Ahy aimistlco to which Marshal Foch and his superiors will agree must bo nn armistice which will ciUI the wAr. fcrotldence Jonrnnl The German Gov ernment offers a reply that Is hot worth the paper on Which it Is printed. It Is cactly tho sort 6t reply A might have expected. It la n compliance In form without yielding anything except what has to be yielded to the hard Argument of Torce. And here We get back to the Inescapable fact that the war Is going to be settled by torce, not by Words. Toledo Times Additional proof Is at ham, that cermany It seeking to evade ,, ,, nnd M.n ..,.. The Entente must realire thst the Government still is lho HohenzoIlerns, with Dr. Solf as tho ,-,.,,,,. Wtlnn must answer this i ' ,", "P. f: h3 " ''" ",, he Will discard polite language and Use the harsh phrase "unconditional surrender.' ISnhcOon Tcx. XeWs The note Is altogether unsatisfactory. The Ontluuk In Nut Hopeful. Springfield Ilepnlillcftn The outlook is not hopeful for peace- nnffaln Kxpress If Mr, Wilson re plies at all It Should be to the effect that If the German Government denlrea nn armistice. It should send commissioners to lhei allied war councils, headed by Marshal Foch. Indlananvlla Star The war lords know tho way to an armistlco. They know they are fooling none oUhrido of Germany In denylhg their illegal and In- human HCtB. Tney mgiy nono to Bam tme or tnmMy advantage by Is to consolidate sentiment behind their lines. Lo Angelrt Times Tiro things have appareatly befn achieved the U-boat atrocities, have been stopped and Kaiser ism hai been put out of business. Now let us submit armistice questions to the Hupromo War Council. Germany must come to terms. She is on the way. St. I.onls Wetllehe Pint The -The note clearly indlcntes that the German people riimnr fnr r.ii. Thi fiormnn nnvern itocky Munnlnin Denver) Neither statute nor constitution can change the heart of a people and the German heart Is still for tho Kaiser, still for war ng B means to an end and still go on to victory. The crimes of the enemy must be punished. And when the Hword Is sheathed we still must ostracise the German nation as nn unclean thing, refusing to admit it to the socloty of decent neonlea until there i bnn.1nt ,lnniiA,,.trn(lin fh var ,1i,vll ...IIM.. It has been exorcised :""""""" '"" ' " Colamlins (Ohln) Htatr .lonrnnl (There will be very little victory If the Allies take the German note as the solution of the war situation. Tho note Is not near What It should ho. If It Is expected lo end the strife. Germany's nnswer does not Indicate that It is aware It has received an ultimatum. CZECHS PROUD OF AMERICA'S STAND Foreign Minister Benes Says They Never Doubted It. Special Cohlt Dfgpatch tn Title Sc.v. Coptiright, IMS; all rlfffiu rtttntd. Paris, Oct. SI. Tho Implacable tone p' President Wilsons answer to Aus- -: , Ji"'1',;' t faction in Czechoslovak political quar- i , r , .... Ivdword Benes, Minister of Fortlsn Affairs In the provisional uovornmcnt, when ho rend the President's note, said : "Wo did not for an Instant douht what President Wlbon's answer would nc. in lilH boon, written twenty years ago, ho testified to thn patriotic force f '" reslstanco of tho subject nations AustrU-IIungary. He has seen this -orro innnuesieu mpr nnu over again tho present war. which for us has been from the first a sttugglc for liberty '"-""".ini). "We nppre-'latc his recognition of our country and our army. He under stands that between the Cieoho-Slovak peonio antl the Austro-Hungarlah po litical system there can be nothing In common. I'resldent Wilson, under standing this situation as ho does could j .rjljj. than pronounce a f I"1 "' FoT m wn ar I,ror-"idly grateful, "The President's note confirms once more the truth of whnt has keen mani fested many times In this War, namely, that the fato of Austila had been de cided by the Czeoho-lovalu. The fate of other Austro-Hungarlan nationalities, unfortunately, has been less happy than we. Ttvey struggled with Indom itable energy for a decision, but their jlroblems wero more complicated than ouis. It Is for this reason that wo have been able to achlcvo victory. Our Stato In the futuro will lo nn In. contestable home of Wllsonlan prlnol- pies and neither the Allies nor the grwwt American republic will regret having glvan us their support" N. Y. WOMAN HURtInfRANCE. Mile. ile Vnllette, Coudnetlnir Party, Killed by Ilonili Sho Found. By the Atfot-lntttl Frets, PAius, Oct 21, Mile, de Vallette, bead of the American section of the press de partment of the 'Porelcn Office. n killed Saturday when a bund grenade1 which sho inched up in reoccupled ter ritory near the front exploded, She had been conducting n patty of American women on a visit to tho reoccupled ter ritory. Miss Kllinbsth Shirley Thornton of thn Nce Republic, New York, was wounded, and a French olllcer Was Injured seri ously, an arm being blown off. Miss Thornton, who was struck In thok face and other parts of the body by bits of grenade, was taken to a hospital near the front Among the American women was Mlsa Cecil Dorrlan, Newark, who was not hurt ANOTHER TRICK, IS VIEW IN LONDON Continued from Flr$t Page. whole innncfMivre Is nn nttenut not yot nbauilotipd, to gnJn time for Urn military chiefs lo withdraw their Ar mies to n fcuor'jer defensive line, ', . ' ntl , The toltc of tr.e reply, It 1A pointed out, Indlcntes that (lennhhy Is tlfillh' crntelr nvolilUiK acceptance of Presi dent Wilson's lerms nn he clertrlj' de fined them nnd snhsUttlling lnterpne lotions to erentc the Impression that she accepts lliose terms ns A bnsls f'or negotiation. Terms of Armistice 1'Tndrd. In tho first paragraph, dealing with evacuation ot occupied territory, Pres ident Wilson distinctly stated that "such matters must bo left to tho Judgment Of the military Adviser of the United States and the Allies, nnd that no arrangement can bo accepted which doe.i,not provide for the main tenance of the present military su premacy of the United States nnd tho Allies." Berlin assumes this nueBllon ehoultrftrt for lho nt.gl utne ,n 4,4nl lie left to the military aavisers, mus implying that German, military chiefs should haVo a hand In making the nr rangemchtn for an htmlstlce. Tho German note, In slightly differ ent form, repeuts the original demand ror a. "mixed commission." Under tho new? arrnngrmcnt, If ncceptcd, the Ger mans would undoubtedly claim the right to retain their guns nnd war ma terials as part of their evacuation agreement. As to the denial that submarine com mahdens ever purposely destroyed life boats and their passengers there Is sWom testimony to the contrary, nota bly In tho care of the British eteamahlp Eavestone, sunk In February of last year, and tho Tycho, sunk lh May last year. In both Instances the lifeboats were sunk by submarines' fire after the shlps had been abandoned. The latest case was In June ot this year, when n sub marine ran down and sank with great loss of life the lifeboats from the Cana dlanvhbpltal ship Uandovery Cartle. In the reply to President Wilson's question as to whom he Is dealing with Berlin declares the present German ad ministration Includes leaders of the great Uelchstag parties, who are sup ported by an oierwhelmlng majority of the German people. There Is no denial that these mem ber of the nretent Government were appointed by the Kalr and hold office! at his pleasure. GERMAN SHUFFLING DISGUSTS BRITISH No Recognition of Defeat in Latest Note. Svecittf Callt Dttpateh lo The Stx and ( rublic lAictr. Copiriakt. 191S; all righu rtttntd. Ixjndon, Oct 21. The latest German reply to President Wilson arrived In Uomlon In time for tho eenlng papers to comment nt some length. Tho Krr ninp Standard calls It "a masterpiece of rhuflllnjr." Germany will talk, tho Stuntlanl declares, until tho General Btaff satisfies itself In regard to the state ot Itfl armies. "There Is no recognition of tho deci sive fHct that she 1 a defeated nation suing ror peace." says the Pall Jnl! On tette. "Her mendacity amaies u.s." The Star says that peace, and not even an armlMlce, Is brought appre-. clably nearer. The livening -Vctcs says the reply deceives no one and that the average man In the street Is utterly disgusted by the cant about Germany's "honor." and by the denial of repeatedly well authenticated brutalities both on land and sea. NORTHCLIFFE SCOFFS AT GERMAN ANSWER Sees Attempt to Make Wilson Trustee for Teutons. London, Oct 21. Viscount North cllffe, commenting on Germany's reply to-night, said : "A hasty perusal of the German note reveals that with truly Prussian selfish ness no mention Is made of Austria Hungary or Turkey. It seems to me that the document may bo read either as a means to gain time or as a confession of a state of affairs militarily nnd eco nomically worse than we know. 'The German Government may he hoping to exploit the conditions of the armistice as an outrage upon German honor and as a means of rallying tne German nation for desperate resistance, ) nr It may simply bo trlng to put the President Into the position of trustee for the German people, which will have thrown Itself upon his mercy "Tho least satisfactory feature of the reply Is the shameless prevarication with regard to German outrages on land nnd sea, and the suggestion thnt this be dealt with by a neutral commission Is a mere subterfuge. The President, who dealt so firmly nnd shrewdly with the previous German attempts to entnngle him in wordy dis cussions, may be trusted to compel the German Government to show whether It really Intends unconditional surrender, which nlono can bo satisfactory to tho demands of the military and naval au thorities of the Allies, or whether It simply Is playing for time." Viscount Haitians, expressing his views on Germany's reply to I'resldent Wilson, said ho thought Germany had conceded what President Wilson re quired, but In an Indirect and complex manner. The elaboration of tho peace conditions, he believed, would prove a formidable business. The Marquis of Iinnsdowue, lender of tho Opposition In'the House of Lords and noted for his pacifist tendencies, considers thHt tho reply leaves tho door open for n continuation of the discus sion,, although some pannages In It, tn ! M opinion, need elucidation, While regarding tne situation on lhe whole as hopeful, hlit view was that must proceed warily, leaving nothlur. to chance. Lord Umsdowne agreed with the re cently expressed opinion of Viscount Mllncr, Secretary for War, that there Is In progress In Germany a complete transformation In government,, which , should not bo hurried, and that nny at tempt to lmpoaa upon tho German people rulers not of their cdiolee might con ceivably lead to a situation where Ger- j many would find Itself without a Gov ernment ! 6 Bell-ans Hot water Sure Relief RELL-ANS r FOR INDIGESTION SENATORS FIND NO BASIS FOR PEACE Continual from Firtt Page, "The American people and the Govern ments of Ih Allies Will never stand for any sort of a n'egotlalcd peace. Until the Huns have .more than a lasts ot de- fA tt.AA Ann h, n. t?nle4 thft military powet of Germany Is broken tinlhlnir hut ft hitehed utt bcace cah be notnnn hut a pitched up peaee cah be made. If World lieaee that tn tf latl Is to be made It cannot be mado through ntigothUlon. It must H dictated to Germany. Germany Ih hot beaten yet. ftrnt peace negotlattohs nOW woujd be a terrible mistake." Senator Tolndexter (Wash.), nrfubll can : "It Is Inconceivable that th Presi dent will consider for a moment an ar mistice br further negotiations on the bisls of this German note. Any Such action by him wotild greatly prejudice the morale nnd wat- feplrlt bf our people and to n lesser exteht thoje of our allies also. It could have no other result. Any such effort by tho President wotild neces sarily fail to accomplish his purpose, as It Is certain our nlllej, who have been In this war so much longer than we have. Who have sacrificed eo much more fthd accomplished so much more, would not agree now when, as a result of efforts and sacrifices unprecedented, victory and reparation for unspeakoblo wrongs Gertnnn Trick Foiled. "The German note starts out with the proposition for art Artnls'tlc lo bb Ar ranged between the military command ers on the basis ot 'the actual standard of (rower on loth sides.' ' "This simply menus rurfher negotia tion nnd debate as to terms. Our peoplo arc Impatient of debate, and negotiation which the I'resldent has accepted and entered Into with Germany. "Tho second proposition of the note Is a denial that Germany either on land Or ut sea has been guilty of 'illegal and Inhuman actions.' This question as the subject of n two year peHod of humiliating note writing and hesitation by this Goverhment ana was assumed to have been at least bo far as this Government Is concerned, put beyond the stage of negotiation. A year and a halt of persistent nnd cohce'ntrAtid barbarity beyond the previous concep tion of mankind has been added since. For the President to Veiily In any fotW to a note from Germany on this subject now would etultlty this nAtloh for all time. "The promise contained In the note to refrain from submarllno warfare is worth no more than promises which Germany made many times on the same subject (lurln Uie long exchange ot notes heretofore. The same thing is true ns to the pretence of reform In the German Government There will not be any breaking ot tho autocratic power ot Germany so long ns the Kaiser and his General Staff commind a great unconiniered well equipped army. "Germany says nothing In this note about surrender or laying down Its arms. The war ought not to end until Germany does this, nnd If Germany Is willing to do this she does not have to write a note nbout It. nor the President to answer It All that would be neces sary would bo for her to lay down her arms. This can be accomplished im mediately by presenting a flag of truce to Gen. Poch. When this Is accom pUshed, and not until then, the terms of peace should be discussed, and then not with Germany, but amon the Al lies themselves." Senator Sutherland (W. Va.), Ilepub- llcan: "Of course It Is the logical result of the President's first note. It seemed to me then that the effort of the Get- mans was to bring nbout negotiations. Now. through this note, there Is thrown upon the President a duty which might perhaps more properly be delegated to th generalissimo commanding the allied armies In the field. The withdrawal Is a military mov. ment pure and simple, and It would 8f.cm to m, ttiat tIl0 w10ic matter is one Bn,ch Bhou,j taken out of the realm of conventional Interchanges ns between the Governments and left where it be longs In the hands of the mllllar powers In the field." Senato" Ashurst (Arts.). Democrat: "The. note Is cunning, shrewd, subtle and Ingenious. I think It Is the shrewdest communication I have ever read. It Is designed to Impress the gullible. It Is bait for gudgeons. In the rt place, the German disclaimer that they have ever engaged In brutalities, nttwltlos and A merchant and financier resigned trustees, because A PROMINENT merchant of this city and an equally prominent financier were ap pointed under the will of a friend to handle his large estate. Neither had the time nor the inclination to give to the details of handling the estate. Both re signed, under the condition that this Company should serve in their stead. Consider whether your friend can afford to take the time and responsibility of handling your estate. This Company is organ ized for that purpose, and our officers will be glad to talk to you about our ability to serve. Ask for booklet "The First Step ih Making Your Will." Stiiiiiiiimiiuiiiif.ininiimiiiiiraiitwiiiiiiiiii Bankers Trust Company j Member Federal Reserve System .Downtown Office: Attor Trust Office: raurdatfc such As have characterized ti,t conduct In lhe occupied territory. ' , suggestive of tt convicted criminal ha Ing under .the gallows with 'hu nu., pressing hi throat nml proclaiinmg fi himself ft rrtlltlCAle of good rl,.-,, ac.lt. " ine suoiiciy ana Bnrcwunrjs of tl, words strung together to deflm. ,i. method of evacuation l.s the (;r,m,., despairing- plan lo save tn their tmr,-, Alsade Ahd LotrAlne. They are plnyinj up their Willingness to earuite noum, territory solely for the purport of fntfr. ing into negotiation in tne coiiifo rf which they lll put forward the ntri. rtnt thAt Alsnci and Iirralne. ,( iwv. In heeil occupied, nee.d lint b evnemtnl In lhe course bf tho wlthdfaM which they plan to arrange. "If tho author or tint note was n rh. rert descendant of both MeiiliUTonh.u, and Macchlavelll ha could hot ha, belief or worse." Colled Dcnllilicd Ilrpentniire, Seftntor Thohias (Col V Iinioal. Tho German reply sounds crv mn-ii lb hie lift a dehthbed rcpentaniv. which I dbn't believe In. The statement i,v GermAh that she has not been cn:'iv atrocities Ahtl cruelties In this w,r , raise, uer military cone enjoins f'ti-ht. fulness on both olttcers nml nn n .mi German wrlters.from Bernhnrd: on n-t advocated the same rout-re In warfare. The Use of gas, flames nnd all nihrr vicious devices resorted to b t;.r iaiy ore nil flagrant violations of The lljjm Convention, to which Germ.iny ib. scribed herself. To contend that m rr has not been, guilty of these atvtvl,1 Is so utterly falPc as In nmk one nn. der that Germany had the audnrl rvea to say it "Ih my Judgment tho President must eltfiel- to Ibake a brief reply or lennta the note Altogether. I would like to rr. him AnsWer aH briefly as ho did in hit note to Austria. Alaace-t,nrralnr Ignoren, "One thing that stands out n iv note Is that Germany maken no refrcncv to Alsace-Ivorrnlnc. Franco ought no" nnd will not, agree to an armlt'. I bp lleve, that doe not have na one .if ii.p principal bases the restoration of thiv, prtvlncek. 1 1 regard the German reply as inrtrn sequentlAI and Unsatisfactory " Senator Overman (N. C ), l)moerv As I read the note It looks as It or. many had surrendered to our tr rme aid Is willing to do anything to end the ar She known she Is beaten and thit thert Is no use to go ahy further with It. I take her reference to the standird of power to mean simply thst Germany wants to gel out of It lhe beFt wn? -re can with her armies and that she wants to be treated with honor. Of rou-' he wants nil the udvantage phe ran siucch out of It. "Her protest that she has rot cncicj In atrocities amounts to nothlnsr Th whole world known of her barbnt t e, in this war. Germany Is only trying to-, cap culpability for her crimes tin. ever, tho way seems to be open iii M reply for peace negotiation It tl me,an the end of the war If we w int o aecp.t It that way." Senator McKellnr (Tenn ). Iew, -it "I am still for absolute and it, nll tlonal Furrender." Senator Harding (Ohio), Henuhlicae "If this note states the actual tnr, ,f the turn of governmental affairs !n 'ttr many It meets all tne requirements j far as the creation of a reprmf!ll!e i',r ernment Is concerned and with which we are to deal. The note contains no tw.r suggestion which wo can accept iccari Ing an armistice. The German niVm. rlne policy drew us Into the war T"fjr will have to come with firmer lu ls than this note suggests befoto hi. , dn hope to have us suspend hostilities Senator Borah t Idaho). Itepu.illia".; "So far as the rcferenro In the Germs, note to a change of government x ' cerned I look upon It as a slum T'is power still comes from abnte pi t f-ni below from those who cl.i tu o s divinely anointed nnd not f-mn fi people, tt Is In no sense a coneu'nn- With President Wilson's last nrte M to the disposition of the nrmiw. It seems to me to be Intentionally m .. il and complicated In order to thro-r "-.it further discussions and ncg.'t. i" " Now would b3 a good time to r: negotiations. As to the proto-" airvn ' the reproach of illegal and In'nunn actions tho German Ooverninei. 'J to have no sense of humor ' Merchant Murine Xrrda 2,001) Mm. Washington, Oct. 1 A call f" 1. 000 men to work as firemen on th American merchant marine to make good a deficiency In the normal suppl) of volunteers caused bv the Influenza pl- lemlc was Issued to-day by the fhlpp'ng ' Board. '-s a as r.mrlVti ' ' mmiv mm If I 1 Ifww ; 1 I liininiiiintiiiHBi 16 Wall Street Fifth Atenuc at 42d Sircel i 1IBBBBBBBT '