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cornmandeb). This the president Is
expected to make clear without delay.
The German reservation that noth
ing be donb that would bo Irreconcll
ablo "with German honor probably ylll
to put up to Marvhal Poch. The
f feildent Is hot golltff to- be placed In
the ftha position 6t btetng a mediator
between his allies and his enemies, no
matter how hard Germany tries.
German Poattton AVenker.
The German answer did hot Cause
great surprise here because It had
been forecast. Whereas tho bkpecla
tlon when tho President's nolo was
sent a week ago thai Germany Would
resent Its tone and stiffen her resist'
ance for a while, developments of the
last few days have Indicated that con
ditions In Germany were such thai ac
ceptance ot the terms was almost im
pcratlve.
Despite the fact that the language
is Involved and ambiguous and despite
certain conditions" Which tho German ,
uovcrnmeni uaeu nns injecteu inio ino
ddestioh bt evacuation ahd an artnts-1
tic, the German ant'iver lb nh accept-1
once, although nn awkward one. WlthiWhien is inclined to tano the uerman
respttt to the Prcsldent'a charges of I fi.t,ehlehiB hnlned In to-day's note at
Inhumane ncttdhs oh the part of Gr
many the German Government coun
ters by disputing the filets cited by the
President, but this does not Involve
Contesting the principles contained in
the communication.
In tho resident's- last note to Ger
many, It la pointed out, distinct and
separate references to the1 Armistice
proposal and the proposal for peace
vers made.
Oh the. ttlbro Immediate question ot
evacuation and armistice the President
said: '
"It tnUkt be clearly understood that
the process of evacuation and the con
ditions bf ' an armistice are matters
which must bo left to the judgment
and advice ot the military advisers of
tho Government .of, the United States
and the allied Governments, and tho
President feels it his duty to say that
no arrangement can be accepted by the
Government of the United Slates
Which, does' not provide absolutely sat
lsfactory safeguards .and guaranties of
the maintenance of the present mili
tary supremacy of the nrmles of the
United States ahd the allies In the
Geld."
IVant Vole la ArranKements.
The German Government how re
pllea "that the procedure of this evac
uation Anjl of the' conditions of an
armistice should tye left to tho Judg
ment of tho military advisers ahd that
the actual standard of power on both
Idea In the field has to form the basis
for arrangements safeguarding nnd
guaranteeing this standard."
Obviously this means that the Gor
man High Command must, according
to the German Government, havq an
equal voice with the .allied and Amer
ican military leaders In arranging
terms of the evacuation and armistice,
ahd that tho Entente and tho United
Itates must submit to German de
mands for safeguarding Germany's
present military strength, just as
Germany must' submit to enemy de
mands safecuahllntf theirs. Otherwise
there could be no possible arrange
ment for safeguarding and guarantee
ing ''the actual Standard of power on
both sides."
In one sense this Is a reiteration of
the Germah suggestloh for a mixed "com
mission to arrange for the terms of
afmlstl:e, except that the mixed commis
sion Is to be made up exclusively of
military men. It Is recalled that the
Get-man Idea of a mixed commission wda
authoritatively described as entirely un
acceptable. With the allied military sit
uation as It Is there Is little reason to
believe that such conditions would be
acceded to by Foch and Halg and Per
shing. "Standard" Itlnlcult to Ptx.
The question ot the "actual standard
Of 'power on both sides" would be diffi
cult to determine If the Allies were to
agree to it. Gen. Pershing's army, for
example. Is now opposed by a force
Which has made Its progress very slow
tor some days, and In his very last re
port Gen. Pershing speaks of the con
centration of German divisions holding
hll ttoops at bay. Therefore the actual
standard of power here i nbout equal
tor tho present, at least in the eyes of
military men.
The standard -of power existing be
tween Field Marshal Sir Douglas llaig's
icrces and the opposing German forces
appears to be slightly In favor of the
British, but here, too, It Is dlfllcult to
gauge accurately because the Germans
ore now engaged in a strategic retreat
which Is admittedly being carried out
In a masterful manner, but which by its
Very nature Involves withdrawal before
the allied forces.
Germans Can Hold 'tJntll Sprlua.
The consensus of General Staff offi
cers Is that Marshal Poch now has a
certain margin of superiority over .the
enemy, but It Is not contended that this
superiority Is In any sense decisive.
The view Is freely expressed that the
Qfermann. when they fall back to pre -
pared potations, will linVo Sufficient dor ,0 lhe German Empire, said of tho
force to hold the offensive In check Un- url0ffCiHi version of the German hote
til American rcenforcemenU reach the 1 last nBht ttt na apartments In the lilts
battle lino next spring. Carlton:
With the added American man power "Who" could be gulled by such an eva
and the tremendous Increase In gun power I BonT Tne president has said that there
coming from the United States, aside i ,,. be n0 moro tnlk. He has said that
from Increases In equipment, airplanes,
Ac, th military experts are emphatic
In stating that the superiority will be
decisive by next spring or summer. But
there Is no Information to show that It
Is fe&lly superior In any marked degree i
ndw,
If the allied military authorities vir
tually were to give Germany credit foi
AA approximately equal military force
the Germans themselves would perhaps
claim even more nnd want the armistice
arranged on such lerms as could in no
way cripple tha righting organliatloti
PoW held Intact by the German High
Command. All these questions have
been suggested by more careful reading
of Germany's answer, but with little
thought that Marshal Foch and the al
lied Generals will seriously consider
these German conditions.
Anxious to Satisfy un Terms.
Tho Important fact, however, which
is not overlooked nhd which has as
sumed greater significance the moro
the answer has been studied, Is that
on the question of peace terms as dis
tinguished from tha armlstlcft propos
al, the German Government on paper
at least apparently goes to somo lengths
to satlsy the President.
"Hitherto the representation of the
people in thn German Empire has not
been endowed With an Influence upon
the formation of the government," tha
communication states. This Is tanta
mount to admitting that the President
has been right In demanding repre
sentative government In Germany and
Is believed to have been shrewdly put
forth now to pava tho way for promised
reforms,
Germany proceeds to state that condi
tions "have Just undergone a funda.
mental change" lu effect Germany
says tha people are now truly repre
sented and that consequently the Pleat
dent's terms tn this respect are already
,,,.,., ....
Officials here frank y ndmlt tiiee I. nr.
way of knowing whether the German
Government Is telling tho truth In these!
statements. Only the future. can estab
lish that. It IS conceivable that tlio war
lords and Imperialists might even And
a way to throw all these, paper reforms
overboard tho moment their object of
escaping the consequence of the war had
been achieved. .
Pnsnewter Hhips Immune.
The German statement that henceforth
BUblnftrlhos Will hot slhk pabHehger Ships
comes at a time when It 1a Impossible to
know whether the German Admiralty
docs hot believe all effective damage tt
passenger hlllbs hail nlreatljr beh nrtttti
pIUliM and that eonseiUcMiy Germany
mAy how safely refrain from further
murder on the high mm.
'The measures taken by the Entento
and the United Utates at the post bf bill
ions have In a eehse rendered paateriger
Ships Immune, hhd neutral Governments,
particularly Rpaln, are showing sighs of
breaking 'With Germany because of the
submarine Attacks. Therefore from
from every point of view It appears
a Wise course hOw for Germany to
call off Attacks on passenger Vessels, Ahd
emciAis wpiam that the oerman gov.
offer t0 trade this form of Waf fare off
ror what it regards as prospective assist- '
ahoe to peace negotiations.
There Is Uhdenlabty Aft element here
their face value and to regard the note
as evidence that Germany concedes she
has been whipped and sincerely desires
to meet every condition laid down by tho
President, Out even those holding firmly
to this View concede thAl the Allied com
manders must be the Ones to lay down
the condition fbt- evacuation and the
guarantees that the President has said
must be required.
Complete. evaCUattAh Ot All invaded
terrltomthe President has said, must pre
cede anVtrmlstlce. According to one high
ofnclsd, 'peace with an Armed Germany
would be unthinkable) hence lh armis
tice hitlst be thkt accepted by Bulgaria,
which called for complete demobilization
and the. surrendering of her arms and
Implements of warfare to the Allies. The
lest Will' come when Germany receives
these terms-"rVOm tho allied-Commanders.
DICTATED PEACE IN
BERLIN ADVOCATED
British Statesmen Say Thit
Would Have Most Weight.
SptcUt Cable Dttfitth fo Tdc St.
CoptHaKt, 11I; all riiSt rtttntd.
London, Oct. Si. A well Informed
Drlttsh diplomatic authority rays :
"Many Englishmen have made up their
minds that Berlin is the place where the
Germans must be told what they will
have to do In the way of reparation and
what punishment Is to be meted out to
the criminals who caused the war and
are responsible for' IU Unnecessary hor
rors. "Moms Frenchmen arc Inclined to the
notion that the German peace delegates
should be brought to Paris, In retaliation
fur the humiliation Prussia Inflicted on
France forty-seven years ago.
"American Frenchmen nnd Brltorts
can be found whose opinion It Is that
poetic justice would be done If the peace
conference were held In Brussels, with
King Albert as president"
This Irn't the view of the British
statesman, who continues: "A peace
dictated on German soli would have
more weight With the goVernlog classes
In Germany than anything else."
There probably will be another gather
ing of allied .Ministers In Paris this
week to prepare for any new move made
by Berlin lb replying to President Wll
son's note.
URGES PUNISHMENT
OF WAR CRIMINALS
Serbian Premier Would In
clude 130 German Professors.
Spteiat Calif Pttpatch to Tn Scs.
Copyright, ltlll ill Hfhtt rrxrred.
London, Oct 21, M. PaShltch. pre
mier Minister of Serbia, told Tub Kvh
correspondent to-day that It was for the
Allies as n whole to decide who Is to be
punished for the crimes of the war and
to decide what the punishment Is to be.
"If the Kaiser abdicated," said the
Serbian statesman, "he would be sure to
come back In a year or two. No sort of
written agreement would prevent him
from returning. Only force will accom
plish that result. Once at peace Prussia
gladly would welcome him back on the
plea that she had the right to determine
her own rulers.
"We must make It Impossible for Prus
sia ever again to have It in her power
to impose her will on other peoples. At
the same time It must not be overlooked
that 13(1 of the principal professors of
Germany openly declared for tho support
of the war and advocated Germany's
'cause.' They upheld the Inhumane
methods of warfare practised by tho
Germans, nnd they must therefore be In
cluded In the Indictment that the Allies
will draw up."
REPLY GULLS NO ONE,
SAYS J. W. GERARD
Defeat Only Argument,
"Matin" Editor's View.
I Gtranl. fnrmorlv Amh.iiin
Qermahy must surrender to the military
forces of the Allies. Who believes that
the President will even take cognizance
ot such transparent hypocrisy as now
comes from tho Imperial German Gov
ernment?
"Germany Is beaten, knows it and Is
scheming frantically to gain time. Her
subterfuges, her tricks, her evasions are,
ns usual, a mutture of cynicism, eurront
ery and stupidity, flavored by cunning.
I don't believe a single American citizen
with the Interests of America nnd of
clvllliatlon nt heart will pay much more
attention to tho German reply than he
or she would to any other Junker mado
ebullition from Potsdam."
fitephan Lauzanne. editor of tho Paris
iralln. now In this country on a mission
for France, said: 'The note proves ab
so u ; y no'tlnhg eltCept tha't'lt Is uselesi
to hav any consultation with Germany .
The Oermnns pretend, as usual, that
they have always: conducted war In the
most hu.nano manner. There Is no uso
In trying to convlnco them that what
they haVo done at I.llln, Poual and else
where Is neither humane nor In accord
ance with International law, The only
way lo convince them of anything Is to
take Frankfort, Cologne and other Ger
man cities and administer to tho Ger
mans some of the samo treatment they
havo administered lo France nnd Bel
Blum. In other words, the only argu
ment that Can Impress tho Germans Is
deeds, accomplished facts. Leave that
to Foch. He knows what to do and will
do it."
Sniper Kills Mnjor-Gen, Upseti,
Uy the AtuHattd Pttti.
LonpoN. Oct. 31. Major-Gen. U J.
Llpsett, C. B.. C. St. G.. recently com
mahder of tho Thlnt Canadian Division
and n general staff officer, has been
killed. He 'was shot by a German sniper
I wiiiiu inspecting voauions ni me ironL
1 J.i IJl. Z.l' .JU
Uriush Army In 18H. " lno
N,Y. PRESS-SCORES
mm HYPOCRISY
,
Confession of Ilrtttnl Suvngcry
Not Graceful, Says
tho "Times.4'
END IS
n At)TrTTlT.ArHtnM
OAJ. llU.Ua 11 Vfl
nTnV tfnf-ltn Thill YpftV llllt I
juaj kojo mm lcm uu. ib
Sure to Come Filially,
Declares hWortfl.
the editorial eent-netlls 6 Ji'fti Vorfc
hCirnarr oit ike latest OertHan toeace
I Dleo nrc ai follows.
Jf -W fork Tlnie The Germans have
not yet icarnco to understand, mucn irss
iu iireitn vur iaiinunno cc. ......
We nsy regard their latest note as a
German effort to meet the President's
demahds. In part It does mbve toward
them,. but haltlngty and with evasions.
hotably In respect to me auanuonmcnt
of inhuman practices contrary u mo
laws of war on lea ahd land; but In
other parts It ring false, It Is colored
with those deceptions and hypocrisies
Which we have come to rcganl as insep
arable from the processes of the Germhn i
mind. - I
While the note Is nofTT 'compliance i
with the demands of Mr. Wilson, It Is an ;
Avowal of defeat It Is a contession inai .
Germany has conducted the war not line I
A civilised nation but wltn nrutai sav
agcry. Hho does not conies grncnuiij
or like a penitent thAt was not to be
expected. 1
She almost throws herself on the
mercy ot President Wilson. prACtlCAlly
begging him not to approve of demands
"which would be Irreconcilable with the1
honor of the German people." Ab they
long ago parted with the last vestiges of
their hohor, that plea In extenuation Will
Avail little. The terms of peoco will be
Just to the rest of the world, however
harsh GenhAny and the German peoplo
may deem them to be. It remains for
thert not to choose the terms but to ac
cept whatever terms may be Imposed.
The World We have here an unac
ceptable assertion as to tho liberalisa
tion of the German Government, Which
everybody knows Is not yet truo: a de
nial of the very ntrocltles at sea and oh
land that brought the United States Into
the war; a request fof- A commission to
discuss the matter, and finally n grudg
ing aeceptonce of the Idea that tho armis-.
tlce which It seeks must be granted by
, V. 11 1 , Mnmrnnnriara 111 tha field.
With the ''trust" that the United BtAlca .
will snhrove of ho demand on their part
that wilt prove humiliating to tho Oer
man people, who are not yet In control
of their own government.
Unsatisfactory as this communication
must be regarded, we Are bound to ad
mit that It shows progress. As win said
Ih these columns when Germany first en
tered upon these peace manoeuvres a few
weeks ago, Berlin will coihe again and
again with Its propositions, nnd capitu
lation will be the end of them perhaps
not this month, perhaps not this year,
but finally.
New York Herald In Its talk about
armistice, autocracy has nothing else In
view than Its desire to eaVe the harried
and battered armies of Germany. Its
assertion that It has ordered Its U-boats
to refrain from torpedoing passenger
vessels has 1ne same value as German
autocracy's other promises of fair deal
ing, and that means no value at all. Its
protertatlon that It has not resorted to
Wilful vandalism and to f rimes unspeak
able Is' given Hie lie by the rovelatlohs of
every city nnd town In France and Bel
glum reclaimed from Its grasp.
To-day, as ori the heels of lhe Amer
Irnn nota of October 8. the demand of
the American people will be no nrmls- (
lice, mraw'"""1'; " ' ' " r
peace until inere is i open mi. '" "
defeat by whatever govern
" . t
manv may have, and no tnougni oi peace ,
until the German armies nave surren
dered unconditionally.
The Trihnne Exhibit V In the diplo
matic correspondence between Germany
and the United States ort the subject of
an armistice with the Hun and peace
with him thereafter appears this morn
ing on the front page of every news
paper. It It does not raise such a storm
of disgust ana anger k win nmu mo
door from this side hard enough to drop
the bolt and put an end once for all to
thefe offending negotiations. c u
of us deserve tno consequences nui um
those of us who nro responsible but those
others also who for any reason forbear
to speak their misgivings out.
New Tork (lermanlleroM An exami
nation of the wireless version, as It has
re.irhM Us. seems to show that there Is
at least some endeavor on the part of
n.mmnv to fulfill the basic conditional
as enunciated by Mr. Wilson. We trust
the German rulers are, ai ian.i incunru
to let reason rule and see things as
they are,
PLACE NO RELIANCE
ON GERMAN WORDS'.
Newspapers Doubt Sincerity
of Reformation.
FoIIotHnff ore expressions 0 opinion
upon the Carman reply by representative
tlfirnnrrr (ArOUOlOUt fne COUntri.
Baltimore Htm In brief, the German i undoubtedly will be of such a nature
note Is explainable on the theory that 1 that If Germany accepts them she will
"the arbitrary power which separately, ' have accepted unconditional surrender,
secretly nnd of Its single choice" dls- , Germany has devotetl tho beat part of
turned the peae of the world has been four years to convincing the World that
not overthrown precisely, but nt least she has no sense of International obllga
subdued; It Is also explainable on the tlon. no sense of honor, no pride In her
ZorTiul ZXZ
are mere camouflage, Intended to dls-
tract tho attention of Germany's enemies
I tract
, until such a time ob she can pull herself
out of the desperate hole into which she
bas been plunged nnd tn help her In that
endeavor. Everything depends on which
theory is the correct one.
Impassible to Believe Hlnrrre.
St. l.ottll (llolie Ilemornil When wo
think of the proofa filed upon proofs
thnt havo been accumulating through
fo.ir years of the .terrible barbarity' ahd t s cIearI determined. It Is ex
inhumanity of the German army and the w , , difficult If not Impossible serl
Gennan navy, directed and supported by . ,' , ,.,. ,,,, ,,, r.
I Mi-MIn boiling at
feffi
t lmpOI)1mo to believe in the sincerity
f nny paragraph In the document,
Whatever It menns It Is wholly u'nsntts-
factory nhd wholly hypocritical. It does of a eatlsfnctory peace With Germany,
not come to the point. It Is ft mere I First. ho must realise that sho Is
beating about the bushes to gain time, soundly beaten. Second, alio must sub
to save tho German race. ' mil without shuffling or equivocation
Is It possible that a despotism s
strongly established that It has shaken
.he world to Its foundations can be over
thrjwn by n few men whispering In ft
rnnlerf Can We yet believe that the
horns ahd the spiked tall of the beast
aro nut hidden beneath this lamblike
coat? Do we know upon this ex pnrte
statement with Whom we are dealing!
Ucyuul a peradventureT
It does seem to us that President Wil
son's note of Inst week should stand as
the ultimatum of tha Allies And ot civili
zation and that until Germany comes to
Us terms In plain words' nnd with the
uncontestlblo proofs of Its sincerity in
Its hands, wo should haVo no further dis
cussion. Memphis Commercial-Appeal Rolf en
ters a plea of confession1 nnd avoidance;
It Is vacillating, nebulous and weak,
It the aerman fundamental lay -ha
.THE SUN, TUESDAY,
been changed so aa to give the people
full representation ahd the tight tot veto
What guarantee cAh Germany give that
iw soon as the pteseht difficulty Is over
theft rights wilt hot AgAIn be taken
nwnjf from tho people, T The eftllra Ger
inanla conversation has been It WAite- it
time and a diversion from the main
thing.
The German emplte must be de
stroyed. Tho German army rtttist bo
destroyed, aerman hultur muet be an
nihilated and the German peoplo must
bo clvlllsea.
piy Of Germany to the President's t.l-,l-
(datum Is tho greatest step toVfatd petM
,h,, Government hss taKen, Through
tn8 nfie phrases with which Dr. Belf
' seeks to butter the black bread of ile
i ftat the ultimate victory of 'the Allies
'can be Aecn. But Ihls Is not enough.
men thWa nrtJmleM of a chan(,e(1 ao..
eTnmenl snail be backed by sufficient
guarantees, when the Constitution has
actually been altered and tho general
franchise actually given, then only can
terms of peace be laid down by the Al
lies, v
In. lis details ahd In, Its phrases tho
note Is Unaallsfaclory. value In parts
nhd controvottlnl Ih others.
rhllaaelbhlA Pnblt t.roSer The mns-
ters of Germany have made many hlun-
ders In Waging the war Which they with
malign purpose precipitated upon the ,
amaked, Iricredulnux. Unprepared man
kind, but they have made no othtr blun-
,jer whlch nt all BpprOnches In conse-
r(Uences 0f incalculable coil to them-
pelves the colofsal blunder, far exceeding
a crime, br destroying world eonnaenco
In their own word. ...
Far above the Importance of making
sure whdse voice It Is which now ap-,
p,ni ror peace stands the Importance i
ot maklhg sure that no power In Ger-
niany. Prince or people, soldier or Bo-
clallst. can under any circumstances re-
sumo tile war.
For t'ncnndltlottnt SnrrendeV.
Philadelphia Inquirer Whether the
President acted wisely or Hot In an-
pearlhg to oped the door to dlFrusslon '
he will not represent tno overwhelming
sentiment nt this nation Unless he now
closes that door with a bang. . . .
In bHer, hothln less than Uncondi
tional (surrender will fill the bill.
Philadelphia Preti What effect this
note will have in Washington remains
to be seen, but we suspect that It will
give a new Impulse to the passage of
the pending Lodge, resolution that "It
Is the sense of tne benate that there
should bo ho further cohimunlcat on .
v. . . "'"making a show of doing something to
subject of an armistice or conditions .f , mMt oUt but ther real obJeclv0
peace xcept a
demand for uncondl
tional surrender.
Best Kdncator Prof. Foth.
nmfnn Herald To ludtre from the un
official text Get-many has sent to the
President a very specious reply. "The
volco Is tho volco or Jacob, but tho hands
are tho hands of ESnU." j
Nelthor do we see any use In this
note writing from the Standpoint of edu-
catimr the German ueoule. Even If we
assume that they are elmple, misguided ment nt last recognizes the fart that the
folk, needing only o have the Iron yoke German people cannot be led any longer
of their masters broken to return at by the privileged few. The note lndl
onco Into the paths of rlahteousness, the cntes that the CIrmnn people will pee
best educator after oil-Is Prof. Foch. ' that Germanv fulfils all the promises and
We hope the President will break off pledges It makes to the President
these negotiations by proclaiming at once
tho keynote of the situation, uncondl-
tional surrender. The Germah people
ana tneir ruiers musi trust 10 tne mag-
nanlmlty of the Allies. Paradoxical as
It may seem to tne uerman mino. uer- unrepentant of her crimes against hu
many will fare far better If she abandon nianltv. We say again, lit Marshal
the hopeless task of bargaining nnd j'och dcslde.
stands naked and helpless and repentant I Kaunas City Times Germany Is
before the world. j i,paten : fundamentally beaten. .She
Chlrago Trlbnne The elucidation of might fight on for months. But her
Herr Bolf of the Internal political sltua- doom is written in the language she
tlon and constitutional changes In Oer- ' understands the language of arms,
many does not seem to us to be such as ' . . . The only possible ieace I the
to offer the assurances demanded by tlio peace of unconditional surrender The
President in emphatic terms nnd repent- sooner Germany ls given to understand
edljv They are assurances sent forth In , 'his tho better.
the shadow of the throne. Pittsburg Oajette Times Vnlon The
Ho far ns we know the vise of Luden- I attitude of all the foes ot the autocratic
dorff and Hlndcnburg Is on their com- Powers must remain unaltered by this
placent phrases. So far as we know the latest note from Berllh. The war must
parties In Prussia which willed this war
are at Maximilian's elbow at this mo-
ment Their army, we know, 1b still In
being and fighting with destructive ile-
termination. Their fleet Is still waiting
under the iruns of their fortresses. Their
Kiihmnrlnes nre tl!l Rtrllrfni? deAth on
--, -
tho sea. If we merely ask words. ,
pledges, new wraps of paper, we can I
have them a plenty and Potsdam will
countersign them readily.
Until Potsdam and what Potsdam
stands for has been laid low, either by
the German people or by our own power,
our nrmles will fight on.
Atlanta l.'onntltutlon The last Ger
man peace note to President Wilson Is
Involved and nmblguous. So long as tho
j HuM war ,ord, are dIsp'0s01, tn contnu0
, ,hc lelter wrltng business the best thing
to do Is to deal with future communlca
Hour with them as we did with Austria
Hungary, which was respectfully re
ferred to the Crocho-Klnvak Government
for further terms. Now let us refer all
further communications from Germany
to Gen. Foch.
Cletelan.l l'Jaln Healer If the Ger
man Govprnmetit'rt rpitntntlnn fnr vfMf.
Miea by tho Kaiser's long courso of j
( trickery and deceit the people of the i
United States would be moro Inclined to
accept at face value this latest peace
idea from Berlin. President Wllnon hss
In effect declared that Germany can have
peaie only upon an unconditional sur-
tt Germany Is ready to eurren
der, she knows very well how to do so
It requires, no Interminable excjiange of
tirttM tn lirlni- fhfit nttntif
Kansas City Star There Is only one
way to get down to brass tacks with i
n-rmnnv. Tlmt lu fr th mllUnrv omin.
' dl of ,he A, antl t)ie ttntr(1 ,mtes,
. unapr Maishal Foch. to nnnounco terms '
for the i,r.,,w..,l nrmlulli.n Thorn terma
pledger w With' such a inYt.on we
cannot deal In the ordinary way.
Cincinnati Knuulrer Germany's latest
message is more n protest man a repiy,
more a dental of the charges made by .
i President Wilson than an answer to his
Indictments of barbarism and Inhumane
warfare. Of courso there are the usual
Geiman promises to be good, but not Im
mediately, as this In so far as subma
rining passenger ships Is concerned "for
technical reasons" cannot be guaranteed.
Until the question of who really con
stitutes the present German Govern-
! win' approve" no demand" w Idch
tirGlnuanToMeBble W"h "nr
llle ""'" ,
Philadelphia lleeord There nto threo
i essential prtrequlstes to the conclusion
to Hie conditions which military defeat
entalk. Third, sho must make this sub
mission through rcspotuilbln govern
mental agencies clearly differentiated
from those which she employed lo pro
voke and conduct this war. The unoffi
cial version of the new German note doCN
not sufficiently Indicate that' theuo pre
requisites have been met,
Washington (II, f.) Post The com
munication Is nothing else than an ef
fort to obtain relief for the German
army by uttering a series of false
hoods and falM promises to President
Wilson, , , , Thero should be
only one answer hereafter to anything
Germany may say: "Surrender to
Foch."
ltnldgh (N. (!.) News and Olurrrer
The answer of the German Government
to President Wilson la not satisfactory.
Yet it la so great an advance of any'
OCTOBER 22, 1918,
thing Germany has yet proposed that
II mutt be regarded with gratification
by every bhe Who WAnt to seo Ger
many submit to Mm that will mean
adequate humiliation And punishment
Tor her fthd Wilt put Ah end to tho
war.
Detroit Free Tress Tho German ro
piy Is a mlitture of effrontery and an
effort nt conciliation. It endeavors to
placate and deceive by magnifying small
concessions and by vague or conditional
promises which are quite lacking In de
pendability, The best Immediate an
nwer to the communication will be the
ton!- bf rbch'o cannon.
U Pnal Pioneer i-res certainly
there is nothing In the latest dermnn
MjhimUhlcatloh' that call for An answer
from tho President And what may
aermany expect from Marshal Koch?
Tho commahder In Chief of the allied
forte will be guided, of course, not
only tiy the military situation nut uy
Ik. . . it t , I ....II.,.. nr 1 1. r!nvriim.h(.
trm itf, f10 Hoian hit command. Ahy
aimistlco to which Marshal Foch and
his superiors will agree must bo nn
armistice which will ciUI the wAr.
fcrotldence Jonrnnl The German Gov
ernment offers a reply that Is hot worth
the paper on Which it Is printed. It Is
cactly tho sort 6t reply A might have
expected. It la n compliance In form
without yielding anything except what
has to be yielded to the hard Argument
of Torce. And here We get back to the
Inescapable fact that the war Is going to
be settled by torce, not by Words.
Toledo Times Additional proof Is at
ham, that cermany It seeking to evade
,, ,, nnd M.n ..,.. The Entente
must realire thst the Government still is
lho HohenzoIlerns, with Dr. Solf as tho
,-,.,,,,. Wtlnn must answer this
i ' ,",
"P. f: h3
" ''" ",,
he Will discard polite
language and Use the harsh
phrase "unconditional surrender.'
ISnhcOon Tcx. XeWs The note Is
altogether unsatisfactory.
The Ontluuk In Nut Hopeful.
Springfield Ilepnlillcftn The outlook
is not hopeful for peace-
nnffaln Kxpress If Mr, Wilson re
plies at all It Should be to the effect that
If the German Government denlrea nn
armistice. It should send commissioners
to lhei allied war councils, headed by
Marshal Foch.
Indlananvlla Star The war lords
know tho way to an armistlco. They
know they are fooling none oUhrido of
Germany In denylhg their illegal and In-
human HCtB. Tney mgiy nono to Bam
tme or tnmMy advantage by
Is to consolidate sentiment behind their
lines.
Lo Angelrt Times Tiro things have
appareatly befn achieved the U-boat
atrocities, have been stopped and Kaiser
ism hai been put out of business. Now
let us submit armistice questions to the
Hupromo War Council. Germany must
come to terms. She is on the way.
St. I.onls Wetllehe Pint The
-The note
clearly indlcntes that the German people
riimnr fnr r.ii. Thi fiormnn nnvern
itocky Munnlnin Denver)
Neither statute nor constitution can
change the heart of a people and the
German heart Is still for tho Kaiser, still
for war ng B means to an end and still
go on to victory. The crimes of the
enemy must be punished. And when the
Hword Is sheathed we still must ostracise
the German nation as nn unclean thing,
refusing to admit it to the socloty of
decent neonlea until there i bnn.1nt
,lnniiA,,.trn(lin fh var ,1i,vll ...IIM.. It
has been exorcised
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Colamlins (Ohln) Htatr .lonrnnl (There
will be very little victory If the Allies
take the German note as the solution of
the war situation. Tho note Is not near
What It should ho. If It Is expected lo
end the strife. Germany's nnswer does
not Indicate that It is aware It has
received an ultimatum.
CZECHS PROUD OF
AMERICA'S STAND
Foreign Minister Benes Says
They Never Doubted It.
Special Cohlt Dfgpatch tn Title Sc.v.
Coptiright, IMS; all rlfffiu rtttntd.
Paris, Oct. SI. Tho Implacable tone
p' President Wilsons answer to Aus-
-: , Ji"'1',;'
t faction in Czechoslovak political quar-
i , r , ....
Ivdword Benes, Minister of Fortlsn
Affairs In the provisional uovornmcnt,
when ho rend the President's note,
said : "Wo did not for an Instant douht
what President Wlbon's answer would
nc. in lilH boon, written twenty years
ago, ho testified to thn patriotic force
f '" reslstanco of tho subject nations
AustrU-IIungary. He has seen this
-orro innnuesieu mpr nnu over again
tho present war. which for us has
been from the first a sttugglc for liberty
'"-""".ini).
"We nppre-'latc his recognition of
our country and our army. He under
stands that between the Cieoho-Slovak
peonio antl the Austro-Hungarlah po
litical system there can be nothing In
common. I'resldent Wilson, under
standing this situation as ho does could
j .rjljj. than pronounce a
f I"1 "'
FoT m wn ar I,ror-"idly
grateful,
"The President's note confirms once
more the truth of whnt has keen mani
fested many times In this War, namely,
that the fato of Austila had been de
cided by the Czeoho-lovalu. The fate
of other Austro-Hungarlan nationalities,
unfortunately, has been less happy
than we. Ttvey struggled with Indom
itable energy for a decision, but their
jlroblems wero more complicated than
ouis. It Is for this reason that wo
have been able to achlcvo victory.
Our Stato In the futuro will lo nn In.
contestable home of Wllsonlan prlnol-
pies and neither the Allies nor the
grwwt American republic will regret
having glvan us their support"
N. Y. WOMAN HURtInfRANCE.
Mile. ile Vnllette, Coudnetlnir
Party, Killed by Ilonili Sho Found.
By the Atfot-lntttl Frets,
PAius, Oct 21, Mile, de Vallette, bead
of the American section of the press de
partment of the 'Porelcn Office. n
killed Saturday when a bund grenade1
which sho inched up in reoccupled ter
ritory near the front exploded, She had
been conducting n patty of American
women on a visit to tho reoccupled ter
ritory. Miss Kllinbsth Shirley Thornton of thn
Nce Republic, New York, was wounded,
and a French olllcer Was Injured seri
ously, an arm being blown off. Miss
Thornton, who was struck In thok face
and other parts of the body by bits of
grenade, was taken to a hospital near
the front
Among the American women was Mlsa
Cecil Dorrlan, Newark, who was not
hurt
ANOTHER TRICK, IS
VIEW IN LONDON
Continued from Flr$t Page.
whole innncfMivre Is nn nttenut not
yot nbauilotipd, to gnJn time for Urn
military chiefs lo withdraw their Ar
mies to n fcuor'jer defensive line,
', . '
ntl ,
The toltc of tr.e reply, It 1A pointed
out, Indlcntes that (lennhhy Is tlfillh'
crntelr nvolilUiK acceptance of Presi
dent Wilson's lerms nn he clertrlj' de
fined them nnd snhsUttlling lnterpne
lotions to erentc the Impression that
she accepts lliose terms ns A bnsls f'or
negotiation.
Terms of Armistice 1'Tndrd.
In tho first paragraph, dealing with
evacuation ot occupied territory, Pres
ident Wilson distinctly stated that
"such matters must bo left to tho
Judgment Of the military Adviser of
the United States and the Allies, nnd
that no arrangement can bo accepted
which doe.i,not provide for the main
tenance of the present military su
premacy of the United States nnd tho
Allies."
Berlin assumes this nueBllon ehoultrftrt for lho nt.gl utne ,n 4,4nl
lie left to the military aavisers, mus
implying that German, military chiefs
should haVo a hand In making the nr
rangemchtn for an htmlstlce.
Tho German note, In slightly differ
ent form, repeuts the original demand
ror a. "mixed commission." Under tho
new? arrnngrmcnt, If ncceptcd, the Ger
mans would undoubtedly claim the
right to retain their guns nnd war ma
terials as part of their evacuation
agreement.
As to the denial that submarine com
mahdens ever purposely destroyed life
boats and their passengers there Is
sWom testimony to the contrary, nota
bly In tho care of the British eteamahlp
Eavestone, sunk In February of last
year, and tho Tycho, sunk lh May last
year.
In both Instances the lifeboats were
sunk by submarines' fire after the shlps
had been abandoned. The latest case
was In June ot this year, when n sub
marine ran down and sank with great
loss of life the lifeboats from the Cana
dlanvhbpltal ship Uandovery Cartle.
In the reply to President Wilson's
question as to whom he Is dealing with
Berlin declares the present German ad
ministration Includes leaders of the
great Uelchstag parties, who are sup
ported by an oierwhelmlng majority of
the German people.
There Is no denial that these mem
ber of the nretent Government were
appointed by the Kalr and hold office!
at his pleasure.
GERMAN SHUFFLING
DISGUSTS BRITISH
No Recognition of Defeat in
Latest Note.
Svecittf Callt Dttpateh lo The Stx and (
rublic lAictr.
Copiriakt. 191S; all righu rtttntd.
Ixjndon, Oct 21. The latest German
reply to President Wilson arrived In
Uomlon In time for tho eenlng papers
to comment nt some length. Tho Krr
ninp Standard calls It "a masterpiece of
rhuflllnjr." Germany will talk, tho
Stuntlanl declares, until tho General
Btaff satisfies itself In regard to the
state ot Itfl armies.
"There Is no recognition of tho deci
sive fHct that she 1 a defeated nation
suing ror peace." says the Pall Jnl! On
tette. "Her mendacity amaies u.s."
The Star says that peace, and not
even an armlMlce, Is brought appre-.
clably nearer. The livening -Vctcs says
the reply deceives no one and that the
average man In the street Is utterly
disgusted by the cant about Germany's
"honor." and by the denial of repeatedly
well authenticated brutalities both on
land and sea.
NORTHCLIFFE SCOFFS
AT GERMAN ANSWER
Sees Attempt to Make Wilson
Trustee for Teutons.
London, Oct 21. Viscount North
cllffe, commenting on Germany's reply
to-night, said :
"A hasty perusal of the German note
reveals that with truly Prussian selfish
ness no mention Is made of Austria
Hungary or Turkey. It seems to me
that the document may bo read either as
a means to gain time or as a confession
of a state of affairs militarily nnd eco
nomically worse than we know.
'The German Government may he
hoping to exploit the conditions of the
armistice as an outrage upon German
honor and as a means of rallying tne
German nation for desperate resistance,
) nr It may simply bo trlng to put the
President Into the position of trustee for
the German people, which will have
thrown Itself upon his mercy
"Tho least satisfactory feature of the
reply Is the shameless prevarication with
regard to German outrages on land nnd
sea, and the suggestion thnt this be dealt
with by a neutral commission Is a mere
subterfuge.
The President, who dealt so firmly
nnd shrewdly with the previous German
attempts to entnngle him in wordy dis
cussions, may be trusted to compel the
German Government to show whether It
really Intends unconditional surrender,
which nlono can bo satisfactory to tho
demands of the military and naval au
thorities of the Allies, or whether It
simply Is playing for time."
Viscount Haitians, expressing his
views on Germany's reply to I'resldent
Wilson, said ho thought Germany had
conceded what President Wilson re
quired, but In an Indirect and complex
manner. The elaboration of tho peace
conditions, he believed, would prove a
formidable business.
The Marquis of Iinnsdowue, lender
of tho Opposition In'the House of Lords
and noted for his pacifist tendencies,
considers thHt tho reply leaves tho door
open for n continuation of the discus
sion,, although some pannages In It, tn
! M opinion, need elucidation,
While regarding tne situation on lhe
whole as hopeful, hlit view was that
must proceed warily, leaving nothlur.
to chance.
Lord Umsdowne agreed with the re
cently expressed opinion of Viscount
Mllncr, Secretary for War, that there Is
In progress In Germany a complete
transformation In government,, which ,
should not bo hurried, and that nny at
tempt to lmpoaa upon tho German people
rulers not of their cdiolee might con
ceivably lead to a situation where Ger- j
many would find Itself without a Gov
ernment !
6 Bell-ans
Hot water
Sure Relief
RELL-ANS
r FOR INDIGESTION
SENATORS FIND NO
BASIS FOR PEACE
Continual from Firtt Page,
"The American people and the Govern
ments of Ih Allies Will never stand for
any sort of a n'egotlalcd peace. Until
the Huns have .more than a lasts ot de-
fA tt.AA Ann h, n. t?nle4 thft
military powet of Germany Is broken
tinlhlnir hut ft hitehed utt bcace cah be
notnnn hut a pitched up peaee cah be
made. If World lieaee that tn tf latl Is
to be made It cannot be mado through
ntigothUlon. It must H dictated to
Germany. Germany Ih hot beaten yet.
ftrnt peace negotlattohs nOW woujd be a
terrible mistake."
Senator Tolndexter (Wash.), nrfubll
can : "It Is Inconceivable that th Presi
dent will consider for a moment an ar
mistice br further negotiations on the
bisls of this German note. Any Such
action by him wotild greatly prejudice
the morale nnd wat- feplrlt bf our people
and to n lesser exteht thoje of our allies
also. It could have no other result. Any
such effort by tho President wotild neces
sarily fail to accomplish his purpose, as
It Is certain our nlllej, who have been In
this war so much longer than we have.
Who have sacrificed eo much more fthd
accomplished so much more, would not
agree now when, as a result of efforts
and sacrifices unprecedented, victory
and reparation for unspeakoblo wrongs
Gertnnn Trick Foiled.
"The German note starts out with the
proposition for art Artnls'tlc lo bb Ar
ranged between the military command
ers on the basis ot 'the actual standard
of (rower on loth sides.'
' "This simply menus rurfher negotia
tion nnd debate as to terms. Our peoplo
arc Impatient of debate, and negotiation
which the I'resldent has accepted and
entered Into with Germany.
"Tho second proposition of the note
Is a denial that Germany either on land
Or ut sea has been guilty of 'illegal
and Inhuman actions.' This question
as the subject of n two year peHod of
humiliating note writing and hesitation
by this Goverhment ana was assumed
to have been at least bo far as this
Government Is concerned, put beyond
the stage of negotiation. A year and
a halt of persistent nnd cohce'ntrAtid
barbarity beyond the previous concep
tion of mankind has been added since.
For the President to Veiily In any fotW
to a note from Germany on this subject
now would etultlty this nAtloh for all
time.
"The promise contained In the note to
refrain from submarllno warfare is
worth no more than promises which
Germany made many times on the same
subject (lurln Uie long exchange ot
notes heretofore. The same thing is
true ns to the pretence of reform In
the German Government There will
not be any breaking ot tho autocratic
power ot Germany so long ns the
Kaiser and his General Staff commind
a great unconiniered well equipped
army.
"Germany says nothing In this note
about surrender or laying down Its
arms. The war ought not to end until
Germany does this, nnd If Germany Is
willing to do this she does not have to
write a note nbout It. nor the President
to answer It All that would be neces
sary would bo for her to lay down her
arms. This can be accomplished im
mediately by presenting a flag of truce
to Gen. Poch. When this Is accom
pUshed, and not until then, the terms
of peace should be discussed, and then
not with Germany, but amon the Al
lies themselves."
Senator Sutherland (W. Va.), Ilepub-
llcan: "Of course It Is the logical result
of the President's first note. It seemed
to me then that the effort of the Get-
mans was to bring nbout negotiations.
Now. through this note, there Is thrown
upon the President a duty which might
perhaps more properly be delegated to
th generalissimo commanding the allied
armies In the field.
The withdrawal Is a military mov.
ment pure and simple, and It would
8f.cm to m, ttiat tIl0 w10ic matter is one
Bn,ch Bhou,j taken out of the realm
of conventional Interchanges ns between
the Governments and left where it be
longs In the hands of the mllllar
powers In the field."
Senato" Ashurst (Arts.). Democrat:
"The. note Is cunning, shrewd, subtle and
Ingenious. I think It Is the shrewdest
communication I have ever read. It Is
designed to Impress the gullible. It Is
bait for gudgeons. In the rt place, the
German disclaimer that they have ever
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raurdatfc such As have characterized ti,t
conduct In lhe occupied territory. ' ,
suggestive of tt convicted criminal ha
Ing under .the gallows with 'hu nu.,
pressing hi throat nml proclaiinmg fi
himself ft rrtlltlCAle of good rl,.-,, ac.lt. "
ine suoiiciy ana Bnrcwunrjs of tl,
words strung together to deflm. ,i.
method of evacuation l.s the (;r,m,.,
despairing- plan lo save tn their tmr,-,
Alsade Ahd LotrAlne. They are plnyinj
up their Willingness to earuite noum,
territory solely for the purport of fntfr.
ing into negotiation in tne coiiifo rf
which they lll put forward the ntri.
rtnt thAt Alsnci and Iirralne. ,( iwv.
In heeil occupied, nee.d lint b evnemtnl
In lhe course bf tho wlthdfaM which
they plan to arrange.
"If tho author or tint note was n rh.
rert descendant of both MeiiliUTonh.u,
and Macchlavelll ha could hot ha,
belief or worse."
Colled Dcnllilicd Ilrpentniire,
Seftntor Thohias (Col V Iinioal.
Tho German reply sounds crv mn-ii
lb hie lift a dehthbed rcpentaniv. which
I dbn't believe In. The statement i,v
GermAh that she has not been cn:'iv
atrocities Ahtl cruelties In this w,r ,
raise, uer military cone enjoins f'ti-ht.
fulness on both olttcers nml nn n .mi
German wrlters.from Bernhnrd: on n-t
advocated the same rout-re In warfare.
The Use of gas, flames nnd all nihrr
vicious devices resorted to b t;.r iaiy
ore nil flagrant violations of The lljjm
Convention, to which Germ.iny ib.
scribed herself. To contend that m rr
has not been, guilty of these atvtvl,1
Is so utterly falPc as In nmk one nn.
der that Germany had the audnrl rvea
to say it
"Ih my Judgment tho President must
eltfiel- to Ibake a brief reply or lennta
the note Altogether. I would like to rr.
him AnsWer aH briefly as ho did in hit
note to Austria.
Alaace-t,nrralnr Ignoren,
"One thing that stands out n iv
note Is that Germany maken no refrcncv
to Alsace-Ivorrnlnc. Franco ought no"
nnd will not, agree to an armlt'. I bp
lleve, that doe not have na one .if ii.p
principal bases the restoration of thiv,
prtvlncek.
1 1 regard the German reply as inrtrn
sequentlAI and Unsatisfactory "
Senator Overman (N. C ), l)moerv
As I read the note It looks as It or.
many had surrendered to our tr rme aid
Is willing to do anything to end the ar
She known she Is beaten and thit thert
Is no use to go ahy further with It. I
take her reference to the standird of
power to mean simply thst Germany
wants to gel out of It lhe beFt wn? -re
can with her armies and that she wants
to be treated with honor. Of rou-' he
wants nil the udvantage phe ran siucch
out of It.
"Her protest that she has rot cncicj
In atrocities amounts to nothlnsr Th
whole world known of her barbnt t e, in
this war. Germany Is only trying to-,
cap culpability for her crimes tin.
ever, tho way seems to be open iii M
reply for peace negotiation It tl
me,an the end of the war If we w int o
aecp.t It that way."
Senator McKellnr (Tenn ). Iew, -it
"I am still for absolute and it, nll
tlonal Furrender."
Senator Harding (Ohio), Henuhlicae
"If this note states the actual tnr, ,f
the turn of governmental affairs !n 'ttr
many It meets all tne requirements j
far as the creation of a reprmf!ll!e i',r
ernment Is concerned and with which we
are to deal. The note contains no tw.r
suggestion which wo can accept iccari
Ing an armistice. The German niVm.
rlne policy drew us Into the war T"fjr
will have to come with firmer lu ls
than this note suggests befoto hi. , dn
hope to have us suspend hostilities
Senator Borah t Idaho). Itepu.illia".;
"So far as the rcferenro In the Germs,
note to a change of government x '
cerned I look upon It as a slum T'is
power still comes from abnte pi t f-ni
below from those who cl.i tu o s
divinely anointed nnd not f-mn fi
people, tt Is In no sense a coneu'nn-
With President Wilson's last nrte M
to the disposition of the nrmiw. It
seems to me to be Intentionally m .. il
and complicated In order to thro-r "-.it
further discussions and ncg.'t. i" "
Now would b3 a good time to r:
negotiations. As to the proto-" airvn '
the reproach of illegal and In'nunn
actions tho German Ooverninei. 'J
to have no sense of humor '
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American merchant marine to make good
a deficiency In the normal suppl) of
volunteers caused bv the Influenza pl-
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