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VOL. 1.
KO. 10.
A N T I-S L A V K It Y H U G L E.
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l'unLismxa Committee: Snm'l Brooke
George Garrctsoti , James 1'a.rnahy, Jr
David L. Unlbrenth, Lot Holmes.
From Banner of the Covenant..
It may seem strange, Messrs. Editors, to
attempt a defence of polygamy, a practice
now wholly disused among civilized nutiihis,
and generally considered as a violation, of
the divine law. Yet there aro many thing
which exist in society from the mere force of
habit, and the propriety of which none ques
tion, merely because thoy never mink, r.i
them as subjects of examination: thoy are
customary, and it is taken for granted they
are right. Now, may not this he the ease
with Monogamy, or having but one wife!
Would it not be better for society that polyg
amy should be permitted) Would not the
condition of all classes male and female, old
and young, be improved? And is not Polyg
amy authorized and even recommended by
the Scriptures)
Many assert this of slavery. Wo feel eon
fident we may assert it with equal propriety
and force of polygamy.
Consider polygamy as n mere social initi
tntiun. Woman, we all know, is the weak
er vessel. Sho was made to be a help meet
to the man, a help meat, to help him in pro
curing subsistence to make him more com
fortable. As an inferior class in thn rommu-
nity, she should contribute to the advantage
of the superior, just as the degraded descend
ants of Ham are made only to toil for the
gratification and enjoyment of their more en
lightened and exalted musters. Woman is
not to be alone, for she was made for man. -But
besides, as weak in body, and feeble in
intellect, comparatively devoid of energy and
spirit, sho "can't take care of herself," if n-
lone. rivery woman snouiu ue miner mo
charge of one of the other sex. some c-irp-
iivr critics may here object that it is nicon
eistent to say that woman is to provide for
man, and then that man must provide for
her; but what of this! Wo may say, in the
words of a late sappy-ont writer, thougn on
another suhiect. 'Well, vou are content t
make my inconsistency your apology. 1 sun
not bound to reconcile the inconsistency el
men in this argument. 1 a n explaining and
laboring to enforce the claims'' of one man
to have as many wives as he pleases.
Hut to return to the subject. We have
shown that every woman ought to be marri
ed to a man; a conclusion m winch we ex
nect to have the rreneral concurrence ol our
female readers, though they may dissent
from the principles on which our argument i
founded. Now, as the number of both sexe
is nearly equal, it might at fu st view seem as
if there was here an argument against polyg
amy: but it wo notice the lad taut m tin
men cannot take care of themselves, an I
course could not bo expected to take care ol
wives, it w 11 ap lcar that but a small mini
her ot men ough to be married, and hence
there will be a .iiultitude of women for a sin
ele man. As, then, all women ought ta mar
jy. and all men need not, polvguuy is s ine
. iioneil by the natural state of society. As
'.things now arc, we behold th i lamentable
.sight ot many females unm ar led, ana e
.many uidiappy matches. Were polygamy al
lowed, this might cease. Hy letting men
take more than onu wife, all women might
be married; and if any man sh.iwed he coul
not take care of bis wife, or became tired ot
kccniii"- her. ta might send her oil' to so un
person 'who wov'4 take care of her, -an 1 was
willing to have hf r.
Hero again we sre encountered by the
.sickly sensibility of some sentimental phi
lanthropists. Tuey will talk of the feeling-
of a wife being toru, and bcr heart wounded
at being treated i:i this m inner, separate
from her husband and children, and traded oil
like merchandize. We admit that such
thing would be hard, had females the big!
acute, and noble sensibilities of the ot!i
sex; but they are only tern lies, so t.i it
give3 them but Jitt'ft pain. Thus reasons an
eminent jurist of South Carolina when de
fending slavery against a si inlar otijcciu
and as suitable for our purpose, we apply
in the present case. Where is :be hear lb
does not bleed at contemplating the cnndi'iinn
of unmarried females. Pining aivay
wretchedness and toil, living in thn most ab
ject want, without liib or spirit, existence
Sea "Divine anil Human Rights," p. 13,
hardly at nil desirable. Compare with this
the condition of the inmates of a Turkish
seraglio. Why, the latter is an preferable to
the former, as is the servitude of the negroes
of the south compared with the condition of
tlteir degraded and miserable brethren in the
Wo might enlarge on many social advan
tages which would result from poly gam v,
but wo have said enough to convince every
unprejudiced person of its propriety.
If we look at polygamy as a political insti
tution, we find it commends itself to our ap
probation. An eminent judge in one of our
southern States, to whom we have just undo
reference, asserts that slavery is essential to
civilization, since no nation has ever become
civilized without holding slaves. We assert
with equal confidence, that polygamy is es
sential to civilization, because every nation
which has become civilized has practised it.
It is true that we find both slavery ami poly
gamy given up by nations as they advance
in civilization; but may we not fear that
when they commence the abolition of those
useful institutions, thoy are destroying the
means of their own progress) We may ex
pect them soon to decline, and again relapse
into barbarism. In order that in n may cul
tivate their minds, and learn the art of gov
ernment, &,e. &c they must have slaves to
work for them. If they aro themselves en
gaged in manna! labor of any kind, bow -can
thoy att Mid to thn higher pursuits of science,
political economy, :.! Now, would it not
lie better tliat tliey should also he disencum
bered of the cares of wives and families; that
a few persons should h ive charge of all the
Women and children, and t'i rest ho left to
attend to other subjects, Can any one s.iv
the political stale of a com minify would u.l
i' thus improvir.! II lie say it, let hn.i say
We consider this im'tor very i. "-.:! in! :,t
this particular time. Wo no:i are beginning
to obtain an inilueiicf which niav so.n be
come oxeoodiiiglv dangerous. That, th.-y
might be kept in due subjection, t ley should
it he permitted to road or writ-
but r
find they have ireiicnlly acquire I both.
They h ive formed societies oster-l,!y f-r
benevolent purposes, in which they meet
together without the presence of any of the
other sex, and where tiiev have an opportu
nity of forming plot-- against their husbands
of the most horrible kind. There- is a--eat
inger in theso societies, rstnl more.
Una some ot mem writing ami publishing
books, showing a degree of intelligence and
amount ol inlorioation winch might be s!w
(I to the most destructive purposes. They
nave even hegun to take part m politics, ar-
raying themselves en thn side of one or eth
er of the prominent political candidates, r.
pressing their prelerencos in the most deer
ded manner, and exciting a felt influence of
our elections. Where is this to end! Wo
fear that soon they may claim the right n!
sull'rage scud a fern lie to Con "c ss or the
gislature. or perhaps make soiu- elderly
matron the President of the United Niit s.
c are alarmed. I be wo is almost fulfilled
to us, that women shall rule over us. W
need another John Knox, to blow "another
blast of the trumpet against the nioiistrou
riuii lit ol women,"
.Now, would not polygamy arrest those
threatening evils! Facts show that women
could not attain, under such a state of things,
such dangerous power. She might lie. more
easily restrained, and k'pt in due subjection:
the hijher race could make tho law s and gov
ern. Put on this we must not dwell. We lo-rv,
it totiieseri-ma roiloclion of our readers, wheth
er tho well-ire ol the nation docs not require
laat polygamy no resioreu, because woman
must ho Kept in suhjectlon, and this is the
only wav to elo it.
In defending v.iv.l-itnv. however, we vir
particularly t appeil to the Scripture, ll i
true that some enlightened nen appear to
think, th it becaiwo the Uiblc is nit mint I
boa cede of laws fir social institution,,
there is a civil law which, may require the
performance of something; considered useful,
the church is not to t lUe cogmziii'-e ot such
matters. " c sh raid not call on the clmr-h
to meddlo with the laws of the I md. As cit
izens, we have a right to demand just and o-
liral laws; but as a church, we have other
and higher duties." This re isoniie is used
to show that a person should not. he excluded
from church membership because he holds
slaves, since holding slaves is a civil matter,
and "it is plain veiy plain to the rerieunr
and slaveholders, that the church has no re
sponsibility an I no right to interfere, with
respect to the slave laws of the South.
e cannot go just so l.ir; as it does seem
us that the church is hound t seo that her
members sam;:ioii or submit to no civil law
ia s uir-tioning or suhnii ting to whi.-h they
do what li'jj. forbid i. We like betttrthat
part of the argument which endeavors
show that slavery is not eoiitr.iry to tho Bi
ble. The latter view of tha caso seems
i.nply some doubt whether tins former wore
perfectly correct, a doubt which quite sur
prises us. In defending polygamy wo will
admit no sueli wavering; wa defend it
Scripture grounds, and say that, if it bo
reconciloablo with the Dible, the church
something to do in requiring her members
abandon it. a appeal to tle Scriptures
uc.icnco oi polygamy.
W o must confess, in doing this wo
some siigiu HC.-.1'. uion, neeausc It cannot
denied fii.it much can bo brought from
Princeton Ilovieiv. Oc.t., 1811 n 3S0.
1 Ibid.
Bible against it; but we mean to consider on
ly what may be said in its f tvor. Wo would
not go to the Scriptures at nil, were it not
that there is now-a-lays a morbid conscien
tiousness operating in the community, nn-1
some well disposed but weak-minded per
sons seem inclined to abandon all practices
which cannot bo s inetiom ,1 by the Bihle
Such a disposition b is been UI1 (lr, inm-aso
in innnv parts of our land for some time nasi:
and it is a line thing to find professors of the
ology, men of liberalize d, i ol i n ii t u . ;1 , mi l
benevolent minds, showing tint such sacri
fices are not required, and enlarging the
bounds of christian liberty, and rcieetiiur the
reslr lints which some su.-li foolish persons
as we have mentioned aro disposed to submit
We want to get the Bible nn our side at
ill events, and we are enfident we shdl.
because morn difficult things have deen done.
I be liible has been shown ti support slave
ry, and we think it much easier to show that
it supports polygamy. J ft us sec.
It is a patriarchal in-ti'u'.inn. Abraham
and Jacob, and others, in patriarc hal times,
practised polygamy. Tie's none ran deny.
I lien, too it. eviste.l. will, divine permission.
uniler the .Uni'tic dispells itmii. David Mini
nlomon had numerous wives. Will we
profess to be wiser or holier than these men?
I lad we not better go wrong with Solomon.
than he right with all the rest cf mankind!
Let us go to the New 'i',-t iioent. Now
here we find no express r--.iniu.iii-! again .1 it.
though generally existing in t;ir. -toen
wornl, and no doubt, to s ,ao degre
the Jews. Sonic say 'loiv iiov i.;
', among
o.e r.se,l
u:!ii-l to
' Wo;.l-
We rpply to sueh persons the boon
on i-.re-taer s'.Uqect ill the I'rin "ton
(.-:. bcr. JKll,' which, ill-iosio-h. ::
another, answers our objeet ( aji-:!v.
tor hut cue tor.n.
'ilow tie
y run a
ca n !':;:
'he riiiin
: t lit the
ng r e-cle-p-:
re.it rt tacil'
is '.
re th, in ', e e in n
-!s ,-f ;'i.-c..
f lb.- i-rro S
ler:.tllld. '
, I,!
thes, ; 1. 'J':
I'll 'istianiiv,
e-.i::iy in i'.s w.-r. 1 lo:
V over tho world,
l.er his a .-,-;!, r
prevailed rxv-i
1 nut neither
lenouneed polyg-uny ns a criiii'
. That
they never urg--f its liboli'ion us an i omedi-
ili- il,;ty. These are till) fie!.-., the iali r-aiec
is irresistible, polyga-ny cai,ii, t be crime.'"
(p. oor.)
We may a!o otiotn f,-)-.i the same n-iri-r.
with a si.nilar alteration, our grand conclu
sion on this Miojoet.
"It will of course be idmilted t-iat what
God has at any time sane ineil cannot be evil
in its own n.-iture. lr'.ieieTire,' It cm be
shown that (od did permit his people, under
the old dispensation, to be polygamies, polyg
amy ii.- 'lf cannot bo a heiinous crime, h
will further be pdmitti d, that any tiling per
mitted under the old economy, and which
the apostles continued to permit to those
whom they r. c ived iuio tie; church, cinnot
be a crime justifying xcliiMion from Christ
ian communion.' (p. 5") I.)
Who now can say thatpolyguny is wrong
is a crime .should cause the ekclusi- n of
these who practice it from the membership
of t'ae church. Let not our mission nies a
mnng the heathe n reqat re those who embrace
chriti mity to Rbiind hi it. May not a man
he a real Christian and yet have many wives!
Let us not oppose pelyamy, then, fir "in
itself, and as far as it is allowed to operate,
it is evident that a principle which makes the
man who entert tins it r-g-.r-.l and denounce
good men, who really love and serve the
Lord Jesus Christ, as heinous criminals,
unfit fir Christian communion, nm-t pervert
the heart, aim, wrier" it li is full elfcet. rt
strtiy all semltl nice of religion." (p, 5I.)
All semtitance ol religion, to s-y nothing ot
any Af7i7 work. We.idniii th" polygunis!
may he a christian, but if this ! t -. i , those
who opposo polygamy hive hut !i'l!er;'h! to
claim th :l n sine.
It is net long since a nuNisfer in I'm Pres
byterian el.tir b w is d poscl for marrying
bis deeeis-'d wil' s si-1- and the s. n'.e s i
wis sun -iio c.l by the hiV-st. authority l
that body. Ha l the. pc-son b .-en married t.
two or three, or hi:y women, wo ihl he, or
ought he to have been deposed from the min
istry! Certainly he would not have been, il
be had held two or llireo or fifty temales as
e love our oo'int-v, and we want it to
be the glory of all lands. In tho progress
ot decline, we find polygamy b.tms'ied from
every civilized nation; and slavery nowlin
ing a rofugo in scarcely any one but litis.
W e begin to fear for this pilriareh.il institu
tion, and we wish, to s'.rengtuen it. l'nlyr
liny, coeval pniuhly, and cerUinly kindred
with slavery, might help to sustain it. Let
us return, then, to those good old times.
From the American Citizen.
' JTe rftcbirt that icr ace m miicli as ever foiii-in-
f.'fl of tht ji-cnt evil of Slatery." Disc'phuo of
M. I',. Church, psrt sa, section 1(1.
".Icfioiu spcai: louder f.'iaii icon's." Old Prov
During the last ar-saion oftho Now-Yorlt An
nual t'onii rcnco of llio M. I'.. Church, the le
common lation of a cerltui young man was pr.v
aontcd for admiasiiin into that bedy. Several
inoinbon of the Conference 'puke b'gli!;- in bis
lavor, anionj whom were uev I, Ulark, Pre
aiding Kldorol'Neui llivu Pinlrict; ft v. 1 1 o
man lijoe. of tho city of .u llavon; Rev
I'lolot'ir llulJicli, ol ,M Julelgwu Linvcrsily
i- ... iu ir- u:,...r....i ii. i u-.. s-
nor. iv. eiinnui, uai uuiu, ituv, ,1
llang-i, U I).; Kov. Is. .Martind.ilo ami Kuv.
Floy, of Naw-York city.
Tho vote upuu llio r.cuinmondition was
bout boms Uk?n; wbon ihe Kev. t'. I' tJaul'ord
ro60 and said llut he had etrong olgactions
tim odniirsinn of tho brother wliuyo case
now brl'ure Idem, lor In Imd nii(Ifiri--teiod l!i:it In:
ws. tin n'joirtfoits! nnd in proof ol lhi bo would
Mnlo Ifat a tow w.'ckn io, on a Sahiiith even
ing, tli; voucg m ill btiif del Vercd nil iibohiiim
Koriuuii in tho 3d CungfCntionul Clime-h of
t'oiiferd, Ct., and Dev. J, A. liituioniln, llio M.
K. srcantitir of that villnifn, would hear tcstiuio
ny lo the rorroclitPMR cl lint stalciiieut: and a
;iu evidence of tlui ultra-ahohtinn chmaeler ol
Itio tbc'0lJl-, he Iniit uctually m.idu mcnliuii ol
the .him r,i inn cf 'Via:.' ninf hid iUen
ly eviuUiiuitd t!nti vv,il di7nocrntic M'usoet.'
Mo then cil,-d upon IIkv. J. A. lidmoud-, w-lm
ron and M:d, ll.it "ihose tilings wore oven so."
P I. S. Inrther proeceded to nlulo, as pruil
of hi first n-rrtiui, that Uiim brother bud uIao,
tlurimr tho erlv p:irl of the Fpiinp, solicited Inn
uto ol the M. K. Church in Madnon, fur
Iho purpose of dalivcriii); an abolition lecture
Ibmein: and lurtlieruinre, that ho bad on a cer
tain evening, about a month before, accompan
ied an ultm-alinhtieniit to a rcliunl hm,ao in
a.iui town of .Miidifon, and taken p.irt in tho e
orrises ol' the aliuhtion mooting held ilieteiu
for proof of tiioaa vlntoinenta he c.illed upon
Her. i; I". Kotlell, tho M. K preacher of that
place, who ro?e ami nave in his leBliinoiiy.
Miile lbs matter nraa penihuf, the Iter. I
CUrk c imi! to Ihe younif inun and thci aiklreaa
cd him. "IVrhaps-" pant bo "you aie not aware
that it is a ruie of our Conference, that no
member miot ayila'o tho eol jcct of a'.avo
ry, or fay a word rcniniM it, -.m y0,i r.uincnt,
il'admiurd, lo ahiile by lliia rulo" 'l bs voung
man could not
'I he a.lvoi alinir of no(i(i,i, and the rondnnn
iiiij of mi i.'.rrori, created deep uuihiHuo in t!ie
nioiua ot a litrpa miinliir of llio ineiniiets ol I lint
inieieroua Coiilerennc, ajrmilPt the adno.siou ol
the brother. 'ff'ir t rre mo innnv Mrimc Ptmn
tr.i's ulns Itius uit-n uinoog thunt.) I no vilest
means Mere nvnrtc.l lo. in order ,, iej no ihe
youe(f man aori Inn family, and llm rreietoncuii-
anon tt-as la'd on llio lahlo hy a cuiM.iierabie ma
pirov ('"ii "v o;m who rendu t!n-n at.itcmenla cue
liuoe lo deny licit tim New ork ('unlcocrro ol
Hie M. V.. Clencli, a rim-si Ava.av? reiiain
Iv iml. 'I ben l-l cveiy liberty nun an:! woman,
eveiy Irionil uf the aiavc, come nut from her
s;i""i.l.iy and lio parain. JSn loorr Oe ye yur-l.i.'.-tu
! i- iniyiiiiy that vi rfn'ii-e not ol li-i
.iijr, wiuc'i null come l-ko a tiihio, loriu'
iviiiciiiucr, ar line rnlo one
vi:;u i'as.
W e r -py tl-e follov. ing f.-om an rat rn pa
per, 1 he f lactic,:! 1 biislian, for the ber."
fit of those w'uo may have some bias tow-
ir..s i.i ici'y puny. .i nr.,t :-l-'!it it mev un-
- j i
c ar to be uiiui-.b d only t cm tin loe.ili-.ii s.
il on -..i,i.iuaiii;ji ii will bo seen lo ljo ge n-
ral in its character. ihe dillicultv tiom
iich Nathaniel Culver failed t extricate
himself, is the same in which many a Liber
ty parly man in Ohio is ir.v.htd.
above Party held a Conven
tion at I bri Ige on the l.Uii and 'JtCh ull.
w'lieh I had the privilege of attending, put
it the I itter day, and of which 1 oma.o.o to
give some notice. hen I reached tiie pi ice
ol meeting tne t alviiiistic Church 1 found
il well filled, and some e'licient speakers
preti iit; the chief of whom was Kov. N.illil.
Colver, of llosl in, an l Kev. .Mr. Lovejoy of
Cambridgeport. There were ul o tvo or
three clergymen from neighboring towns.
wim gave tj them their d uuleiiance and aid.
floriiig the hilt hour th it I was pre-eut in
the morning, t ie tune was chiefly occupied
in a discussion upon the righteousness ol
h ildinjr political uuti-slavcry mcelingson the
S ib'i itii. lint pa-ising over some iiitereslin t
liseiiasi ,n.i, I will n ilieetlie lu-iine riu which
;l tew plain ipics!ious were met, w hich I pro-
ii a 10 i:ie tonvenuoii. in aim her iiuin-
r, 1 in ly give a !ljteh of other
i d sings."
It was pliin enough to be r.ccn by all rrit
ical observers present, th it t!io rt.VouMiects
1 1 w hlcb tlie speakers ot tho Convention be
long, were treated in a much more lenient
:i:i i 'brotherly manner, t'nn were the p.t.'ili-
jl parties to which they do (; belong. On
learing .Mr. Colvor sueeiingly char 'a t!i"
Wliigs and (i irris aniam wi'h uui'.ia r, i i( rod
md Pilot like, in tho l.i t election, 1 yentur-
ts as!i him it i hern were n it sumothin
ol a union neiwoen i.tacry men mvi iJe-.uo-
a s, w:.c-en on he gil.-e u: his views of
Whigs and Democrats. The Democrat:! ho
il l, were belter m one reaped, at least, than
the Whigs they were h-me t in thrir wic'i
ein'.ss. The Whigs were full of hi r, sound
ing profusion, but ull the time tl iin s lh. wirUt
of the devil 'beautiful without, hut within
lull ot deal men s bones an. I all manner of
uiieleanness.' Uut llio Democrats, they
nude no profession of goodness were no
hypocrites wero devilish inside and autxide
too; having all the iiifcrn d deli.iuco of Cod,
which distinguishes .Milton's fallen an-rol.
1 do not pretend to give bis precise phras
eology, but no one who heard him will say
that 1 exaggerate. 5s. t osier never usud
harsher epithets; an I 1 am very suro that
the people of L'xhridge, generally; think Pos
ter ta bo quit) as serious, quite as sincere,
quitu as Christian in spirit when be denoun
ces, as .Mr. Culver is. Foster never mani
fests a recklessness of human life never
what appcif.i a delight in violence and blood,
llut Mr. Colv-r u-ed no uuoh language as
havo attributed to him, in rel'uienco to tlm
Church certainly the most guilty body in
thn 1 mil, especially if guilt is Somewhat
gradu Ucd as .Mr. C. thinks by prifesumt,
l-'artli as well as heaven knows tho Church
profisics enough. Uut let tho kind of treat
ment thai Whigs and Deinoeiats received, be
remembered, for it will be of eervice pres
ently iu i!liistr..ling an i:n;virt,iut point.
seeing tint lb- Convention, as I tiiou-rlif.
one phiev; e.hv of reform fir iinlitn-,1
parlies, and iiia.iuer ;. ml opposite philosophy
lor reii rious p.tni.-s. thought 1 w,.i;hi en
deavor to nsee.-ann whether i wa . correct or
not by propounding a lew- cpiest o.,s to its
leaders. 1 thought that if the true doctrino
in reierence t) nigs nml Deaiocrcts U
cumimtU'cixm; it iniolit he the true doe rineiu
relVeenee to .k;ho.:i.,t-i. I'rcdiyterians ami
I! .p'isis and that I o.ildt,y' to ho-j, Uie
au iieme see the same. I Hid net think it
quite just th it hi, i, .- li. ul.l h.nc the thunder
and lightning cf Mr. Co!vei's indignation
poured out upon then;, wild,, tiny vvore nt
tiie p dls as men, and find comparative safe
ty hy bring in the pulpit, ,,i nroiind tho
comniiiiiii u tjhie us elergyinen nnd Chris
tians. No I put to the ron vent ton the
lowing questions: -Is any one til t-j h .1,1 iul
oilier under the government, who will veto
for nich a man as Henry Clay or James lv.
Polk, or any olhi r slaveholder) Kev. Mr!
Webster of I Inpluntim. having just finished
a speech, and bring still on'tiie floor, an
swered the question ami without hesita
tion in the negative, lie gate me n very
emphatic 'Ao.' 1 then put Ibis question to
him: Is the man who will vote for a .Slave
holder nn aimiilinni!'. His reply was 'not
my kind of un abolifinnisl; and "the manner
1.. ..-l.i..!. I... -....l: ..i - . -
in ..nun iiu lejou-o Has 1 1 1 1 u I e 1 1 1 1 y nr,i;i
cant to me, that he regarded sueh a man as
scarcely un ub diiioni.i m :,. t,,
Is a man wiio will vote lor a Slaveholder
a i'liri.-tiuitc Is be ft to bereeiivid into the
Church! to Kit at the communion t,,l,Jci j
answered '7 don't know.'' liul elo you hes
itate, said I, to decide tint a man i"s riot fit
for tho Church, who is not fit for an otlice in
the Si lie, and n ,t an abolitionist! is- your
standard of political fellowship higher than
your st.iiiJiii.l of ivli-i is lblowshT;! 1 do
not rare to tike up i,,r lime of the 'Conven
tion in ai filing ti,,s in it;rr; 1 only want tho
audience lo s, e Linrriy Party's prsition, and
Would like l a have doiuiito aii.sw,-rs to my
queslioi: , if you are disio.sed lo give them,
ilere .Mr. Cel.eriame to the us- istjurc of"
elr. W cb .tor w it!i one ot' bis peculiar sueera
'';'"- ,l.ar.'i--onisiu fiiling however to
get up much of u laugh. -If the brother,
-aid he, 'wi re A-or v, lie would c.'iiie out
i duly am! t- ll us la.it he is a tin reu-li ce
ing Carrisoiiian.' l;ut it matters u -l, l're
plied, whether 1 am a high churchman, a
Carrisiim in, or lor nn-i eoiilinned nthei.sWm
cinih 1 suppose, I may ask a few simjilo
questions iu vi.toe of .ny humanity. And as
1 i.i jiuc udinc lo p.'.lnt out t " tiie uiuli
encp the ineonsistency of receiving men in
to the Church and ai the communion table,
who were no! J,! for cirii oiU;; lie broke in
upon mo with the question: 'And has tho
brother never know ai a pious go-Uy man, whom
In does not think fit f,r ollice!' ' Yes, said I,
many. lint they were not m mt i disquali
fied. They larked only ihe in-t iictu tl ahil
ity. Is this al! that you mean wheuyou tako
the ground tli.it they "who vote for slavehold
ers air not lit to hold ilie( ! is their defi
ciency a no ro i'i l-ceiwil o''i'iiHy:! If so,
why do you denounce tho Whigs' and Dem
ocrats as you da! And they seT-med 'o somo
I did'nt know bow many to bo somewhat
iu doubt to answer. Not, of course, on ac
count of any aeutenrsH of my own in pro
pounding the questions, or in dissecting
their answers my self esteem docs in"t
I roaipt me to think thus. Their dilliculty
grew cut of the pisilinn they were in.
If l hey should siy that tiny who vote for
slaveholders are only in'elhdwilh disqualifi
ed lor cilice, wh t would bei-om- of their de
nunciations of l ie trick d.it's of Whigs and
Democrats! lint if they should say they
were nfiniHy dis qualilie j, how could they in
ihe far,? of tii.it great audience, say ihey
were lit for a pi ice. iu tho Church and si
seat at the communion table! Mindly unfit
for ollice, but not morally unlit to bo enroll- -ed
aiiiongevangeiical Cliiisti tns! They saw
that would'nt do. And yet it seemed to mo
that there was a di'-posi'iion manifested to
in ike voting Ib.i a si ivehobler by those out
of the Church a d-tmni;,g criim, hut for tlijso
in it a mere io'cl e:'ual olin lncs x lack of
eloarncM of vision.
Itut Mr. Colver said that tho d'.sainlifien
t'oa for o "ice of Iho iudividu lis under con
sideration might hn partly intelhvtii il -and
partly moral. Did noi. tins Ink like a dr
sira to screen prof-sard Christians consid
ering his dcnuic-ii-ion of Whigs uu l Demc
er.it i! Hut let mo tlien, siid 1 put my ques-
uoii iu auoi.ier lorai. .An I 1 iisiie.t U.j ymi
believe tii.it an iudividu il who votes for a.
slaveholder is mira.'.'y it u ii t for oilice! jay
nothing about bis iiiu-iieciiial qu.ililicati in. '
And if he answered t ao qae.i:i-ui in any oth
er way lb in by an atleuipt to ho witty about
'an ae on a boo handle,' and by saying that
if 1 wero not blin k I, 1 should seo a dill'er
encii between qu .ii:ie iti.m lor oliieo and
nn lii'icatioii for Church fellowship, I am
suro I do not re-ollect the answer. If any
body elso does, I w isli they would give U
to us in tho next Cluisti m. But I t dd him
that whether I was bliieb d or not, 1 did not
believe that audience Was so blinded as not
to seo that a m iu who was morally unfit for
ollice, must be tntraVy tinjl'. for the Church
not so blinded as not to see that tho phi
losophy of comeoi,t,.risin is as truo a philos
ophy f .r religious parties as for politic il par
ties admitting them to be pro-slavery, lint
he had something to say ah nit its not be-in"-a
duty to come oat of a 'divine institution?
what I do not recollect, as ho did not ar
gue the point. Vi t if go.-. Turnout is divine,
an l its oilieers ministers of Cod for whiclt
doctrine Mr. C. is a vory able and ieahia

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