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COMMUNICATIONS. CONVENTION OF FRIENDS. It is now generally conceded by abolition ists tbat tho society of Friends occupies a pro-slavery position and that it stands in the way of the redemption of the Slave, and con sequently that it is Anti-Christian. In viow of these facts,many of its members both at the East and West are dissolving their connection with the society, are coining out of the church,while others who are con spicuous in the Anti-Slavery .cause.sce no im propriety in remaining in connection with it and laboring to replace it upon the Anti Slavery ground that it once occupied. I would now suggest the propriety of cal ling a convention during the present winter to comparo views on this important question. E, H. tFashington Township,I)cc. SOA 1815. We hope the above proposition of our friend Enos Ilillis will receive that careful consideration which its importance demands. Eurs. LETTER FROM NEW BRIGHTON. Fbismds Editors: "The notorious," Abby Krllcy has been here. After the description so often giv en of her by our "Watchmen of Zion," we might have expected lo see attached to her a pair of horns, and a cloven foot. The people have looked, heard, examined; the scare crow has vanished like a phantom at the approach of morning's dawn. The churches lit re have been bolted and barred, hearers cautioned, threatened, exhorted; nil has been done to pre vent investigation that a band of inquisitors could do, while debarred of their old argu ments, halter, fire, and fagot. Devi!, infidel, heretic, have been used so often that somo new name must be invented to produce the desired effect. Short sig'.ited mortals, to sup pose the mind can thus bo fettered. "Can you lull tho winded winds to sleep Arrest the rolling world, or chain the deep?' I pity the poor clergy here, the chains thry have fastened around the limbs of the bond man are evidently galling their own necks. They are afraid of each other, of their own hearers, and of the abolitionists. I only know of one remedy fir them, which is to throw a sido their infalibility, sack truth, anil line men conform to its teachings; this would make them free indeed. Those who have built the churches here have been debarred the use of them: tho upper story of a factory was the best place in a village containing five church es, where suffering Freedom might be defend ed ! ! My countrymen, what strange delu sion has stripped that sacred nam? of all its charms? Once the very mention of the name of liberty would brighten the rye and quick en the puls8 of Americans; to secure its blessings they could wade through sens of blood, and scenes of danger. Mast this ap athy last forever.' Is tho sun of our liberty already on the decline, soon to be extinguish ed, in the starless night of slavery? Forbid it Heaven, forbid it man! Our country can and must be free. The love of liberty, though crushed, has not been extinguished; long buried under piles of sec tarian rubbish, the agitations of mind, like the lieavings of an earthquake, has ngnin thrown it upon the surface, the breath of fico discus sion may yet fun it into a flame. Let it once be established that freedom of speech is as dangerous to Northern as South ern oppression, and the efforts of our profes sional gentlemen to suppress it will forever be in vain. Convince the people that those who can construo an old law into authority paramount and superior to the rights of man, are ever ready as occasion offer9 to wield it agfimst black or white, that a pale face and straight hair would not avert the blow; show them that such can defend the monopoly of the soil and the divine rights of the landed aristocrats, as readily as the traffic in hu man flesh and the divine rights of slavehold ers; convince them of these things and they ill declare themselves at onco independent 'cuch unworthy teachers. The profession '. gentlemen here almost to a man, have op posed tree diacussion, the priest, the lawyer, -rid the physician, mysterious and indivisi ble as the Trinity, have been leagued against i'. No wonder. They all fatten on the misor n s of mankind, to alleviate those miseries is to destroy them, like Demetrius they feci their "..raft is in danger." Oh people think for ourselves, trust not your inestimable rights ' i the hands of your political and spiritual aides, they will lead you into the quagmires f religious and political superstition which avo already engulphed so many nations: ey will tie you up with old laws, creeds, : J constitutions, until like a fly in tho spi (' r's web you can't move a limb; you may t .on demind liberty as the people of England I ve demanded the repeal of the corn laws, a In paichnient and ink will form a barrier ; ' can't surmount. Protect mental freedom ... ; like Sampson's cords your fetters will r..- p from you, with scarce an effort: extend i. ie Mca&ii.ga of freedom to the bleeding bondman, and the eternal spirit of justice will reward you. 'That mercy you to others show The same will show to you.' Act the reverse and your moral sentiments will becomo blunted, and yourselves prepar ed to becomo the destroyers of each other. Follow not the multitude to do evil, suffer not yourselves to he harnessed to the car of church or stale; while like that of Juggernaut thry crush human victims. If you do, remem ber "The solf sime grave oppression delves For others rights, is yawning fur yourselves." The strong holds of oppression hero are badly shaken, the handwriting on the wall is visible, their glory has departed, happy for the world when it sinks into oblivion. The light of science, unobscured by tho gloom of superstition, will then dawn upon the human mind. Believe me, the "Thugs" hero had nearly strangled thought, but their giant power is crippled, physiological and moral reform may yet progress. Tho soul of man may yet stand erect and dare to cxerciso its God-given rights. Reformers, a world's redemption lies upon you, press on to the noble task, the united power of thought will do it, the voice of mil. lions, like that of Deity, ere long will sny " Let there be light." Abby and her comrades have done much good here, thry have troubled the waters, over which the nngcl of darkness has long brooded in death-like silence. Nature's true nobles, shrink not from your herculean task. In tho sinilrs of an approv ing conscience and tho blessings of many a grief-worn heart ycu will f:nd an ample re for all toils. HENRY BROWN. New Brighton, Dec. 29. 1845. Fme.vds Editors: 1 have perused with interest the reply of J. Barnaby, Jr. in your last, to my article the previous week, and am gratified to perceive a disposition of candor and a desire to maintain the true issue perva ding his arguments. Friend Barnaby charges the Society of Friends with being an anti-temperance, pro slavery, war-sustaining Society immoral and corrupt. I scarcely believe these accu sations applicable to the worst man in our community; he must therefore pardon me for dissenting from him on this subject. To that part of his argument by which he conceives these charges are sustained, I have as yet made no reply. Absence fron homo will probably prevent me from giving attention to this matter next week, oth erwise, I should have made it the subject of a separate article. Friend Barnaby, it appears to me, has com pletely failed in his attempt to prove the a bovc allegations. lie produces several rea sons to prove them. Let us examine their soundi:e-s. First, the Society is pro-slavery and war like for voting under this government. Ipke it fur granted Lo will exonerate the Anti-Slavery Society of which he is a member from such a charge. I will also tike their consti tution and declaration ot sentiment, as he takes Friends discipline, as the bent expo nent of their principles. Thoso documents declare "political action in a constitutional wiy, to be among the means they p.ledge themselves to usa for the overthrow of slave ry ! The common acceptation of this is to vo'e and maintain the principles of the V nilod States Constitution. Friends discipline, (new edition, page 22) clearly discourages such things, and goes as far as a Society, tol erating freedom of conscience, can well goto discourage it. Those who vote generally vote against Slavery, by doing thus, do they suppolt it? To be pro-slavery, is to be in fa vor if Slavery. The term has no other defi nition. Now if he has proved that the Suci cty n in favor of Slaverj', I have entirely verlooked nil his proof. lie has proved truly, tiiat Friends in many places are opposed In the measures and movements of the Anti-Slavery Societies, and every argument he has produ ced except the one I have just answered, goes to establish this one fuel and nothing more. Let us see. For illustration, take the Ortho dox Friends of Salem, and apply to them this kind of reasoning and see what tho result is. They close the doors of their meeting house against lecturers on temperance, abolition, peaco, and tho meetings of horse thief detect ing societies, therefore aro they in favor of grog-drinking, slavcholding, war-making and horse-stealing! They shut their doors against tho Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians, &c, and their ministers use their influence against them, and they disown their members for join ing and "acting consistently" with those So cieties; therefore are they opposed to tho re demption of souls ! Thry must also, accord ing to this logic, bo opposed to the marriage covenant, because they disown their members for marrying a certain way. One of our lead ing tempcranco men recently objected to the uso of a mooting house by the Temperance Society, because they disfigured ,oil0u the floor. Is bo therefore in finer of rum-sel-ing? In the case of closing meeting houses and disowning anti-slavery men from society noticed by J. B. he will not admit that objec tions to the measures and ether matters among abolitionists, caused them to act thus, al though there is much evidence to that effect as I will endeavor to show. On the same ground, I havo a right to require him to ad mit that Orthodox Friends are in favor of the eternal damnition of souls. And that be cause each religious society and their minis ters oppose each oIit their deliberate purpose is to send their fellows to everlasting perdi tion! And what becomes of the Ohio Amer ican A. S. Society? is arraying a warm, not to say a violent opposition against other .1 nil-Slav jry Societies, and must therefore ac cording lo my apprehension of the logic of my friend, be pro-slavery also! If friend Barnaby is informed on the sub ject of the disowninent of I. T. Hopper, and the Green Plain Friends, ho should, in order to give those meetings a fair bearing, (and I admit they need as favorable a construction of their motives as charity can give them) state that in each case those meetings at the same time retained many very active anti-sla very members, who, if they had acted "whol ly" as ho says, with tfcrencc to the one sub ject, would likewise have been disowned. Besides, the charges in both instances were for doing other tilings not necessarily connect ed wiih abolitionism, butat variance with the discipline. I find anti-slavery Friends gen erally admit this, without justifying the acts of those meetings. I do the same. A besetting sin of mankind appears to he, alvay3 to ascribe the worst conceivable mo tive to every act of an opponent. Abolition ists understand this, yet "pro-siatciy" fits their lips, about as well as do "love of excite ment," "new things'" "popularity, ice., that of their opponents. To be favorable to "immediate emancipa tion," was once the rule or test of abolition ism. Now, thousands of that bcliefare "pro slavery." My friend reasons thus. A Yearly meet ing, although it petition Congress for the ab olition of slavery remonstrate with the Leg islature against the Black Laws, appoint an anti-slavery committer, admonish its mem bers against voting for slaveholders, and n gainst using the products of slave labor, and refuse to correspond with another Yearly meeting for its misnsatf of Anli-SIavery Friends, (and the Bugle recognizes this as an anti-slavery act,) although it docs these, and other acts which when done by the .'hitl-S.'a-vcry Socic'y are called anti-slavery acts, yet for not reading a document contrary to order, (cud which snine of tho prominent members of the O. A. A. S. Society on the ommitlre who cxaminid it, agreed should not be read) and because a minority of the mce:iiig, aboli tionists among them (or till then called each) refused the uso of (lie meeting house duri.ig tho sessions of the meeting fer thc-.e causes, and for some opposition to the mi.:s;t es of ab olitionists by several of the mom'.c.s the Yearly meeting i3 pro-sinery! Although the meeting passes many direct anti-slavery acts, my friend doc3 not admit that such give it an anti-slavery character but if it pas3 one fourth as many, or ono in a hu -dred against an Anti-Slavery Society, ho calls it pro-slavery. Ho is very good at eharain-' but will trivo no credit. I trust be keeps a mom fair book than this in his thnp But what makes it nppearthe more unreason able, as I have already shown, is, that eppo- sition to the anti-slavery movement is one tiling and pro-slavery entirely another thing, He makes them identical. It is strange he cannot ses that as tho Society of Friends are so very much averse to a hireling priesthood, and to most of the measures of abolitionists, that they cannot opposo them without incur ring the charge of pro-slavery, while he docs not appear to perceive that the charge would be equally, yea, much more applicable to his Ami Slavery Society, for opposing another Anti-Slavery Association the Liberty party. His idea of what constitutes pro-slavery is such that J. R. Giddings, Gerrit Smith, Cas sius M. Clay and Lucretia Mott, as well as the Liberty party, deserve that cognomen. I am not sure it is nut becoming an honor to incur the appellation. Whether I havo succeeded in proving that the stigma of "pro-slavery" is not applicable to Friends, or not, I trust I have shown Ilia? the arguments of my friend fail to establish his ciiarge. I cannot in the space allotted to me begin to answer tbeolheraccusations, viz: That Friends are anti-temperance, warlike, immoral and corrupt. I will refer him to those already convinced, not by the professions, but the practices of Friends, that they are the re verse of what he believes them to be. I do not take isolated cases, but the enlightened world, their friends and foes, bear a united testimony to the contrary of his belief. If the fact, that ministers in a religious Society oppose "bitterly" an Anli-Slavory Society, makes the former pro-slavery, then why does not the bitter opposition of A. S. lecturers to religious Societies make them anti-religionists? Are those members of a religious Society who are inactive in the cause of the slave en titled to any credit for the meritorious con duct of their fellow members? or docs the rule work but one way? If it may he rever sed, then are the pro-slavery members of a Society entitled to much credit for the pass age of an net of the body which they havct-i- olentiy opposed. Tho arguments of friend Barnaby, not alrea dy answered, mav all bo couched in the fel- lowing propositions, viz: 1st. The Society of Friends make a high profession and disown members who, in its opinion, fail to come up to this standard. Vint. I. IS. U. being a member ol that Society cither does or does not believe it right to make these high professions and to disown its delinquents. 3rd. If he does not believe these regula tions to be correct, be deceives tho Society and the world, by rem lining in connection with it. 4th. He cannot ho ignorant of the fact, that the Society does not live up to its pro fessions, and as it disowns its members fur de linquency B. B. D. is bound to disown the Society, and this obligation rests even strong er upon him than it does on the Society lo disown its members. 5th. The diff-renec between the regula tions of a Temperance or other reform Secie ty and Friend's Sunty, is ku0i tint a num ber of the latter is necessarily implicated in the guilt of other members, even of ether Yearly meetings acting under different dis ciplines, but in those reform associations, the members are no more rc-ponsiblo fer tho acts of the body lo which tVy belong than arc the different individuals in a m ijhborhood for the evil deeds cf each ether. On the first, second and fifth propositions, I would remark, that I believe it right fur all persons and societies to endeavor to do what to them appears to be right, rind that the So ciety cf Friends do no more. Also that it is right for all associations, and societies, and individuals in them, to manifest their dissent to every tiling that apprirs to them to be wrong among them, to '"testily ngninst t'icm" and thus clear thi-ir own s!:irt?; mid that all societies and associations and even individuals to a great jr or less extant, i this. Every word cf disapprobation of a wrong, is in effect, what Friends do when they disown a member. The idea w the same, whether it be incorporated in a discipline or bo kept in tho mind. The olijtct of a protest against an error in a reform society, has in it the es sence of a 'testimony' against a delinquent member in a religious society. The form' does not change the su'i.ilance of the thiurr. The real difference is all in tho imagination. And every argument whioh will apply to one, will apply to the other. It may be supposed that because a Friend after disownmcnt is imt permitted lo participate in the meetings, constitutes a rial difference, but is the feel "'A' rf repuUian not the same toward grog sellers who intrude themselves into a temper ance meeting, and meddle, and sway its ac tion, and thwart its purposes, as against a disowned alienated member of Friends socie ty, who should persi-jt in a similar course in their meetings! 1 have Heard no luile grum bling among Abolitionists when thus intru ded upon, (Temperance societies ofl en formal ly disown delinquent members.) I am sur--prised at the sentiment that there is no kind of responsibility resting on one member of an Anti-Slavrry Society for the action of tho bo dy. Why does my friend get up in those meetings and testify against their r.cts if ho has no responsibility to bear in the case? Were he not an unassuming man he would leave us to inler that he merely desired to he hoard. I cannot conceivo of any other good object under the sun that could actuate him, than that which ho disclaims. If I under stand lain, ha will not protest against the act, jf at oar next A. S. Anniversary the Society adopts a resolution to support J. C. Calhoun for President in 181(3. He will not be "re sponsible" for what they do, no more than are two neighbors for each others acts! But the contrast is very great when I com paro with this, his idea of the responsibility of a member of Friends' Society. Itamounts to something like this. Were Abby Kel ley Foster a member of the Ohio Yearly Meeting, and wero she to labor as she does in behalf of the si ave, and with her wonted do vutedness to truth and duty, would labor in as well us out of that Society fer the advance ment of her cause, sho would, if she did not withdriw on hearing of the disownment of an Anti-Slavery Friend in New York for quarrelling with an Anti-Abolition Minister, be a pro-slavery woman! lie my well feel it his duty to withdraw if such be his idea of accountability. There is perhaps no other society or orga nized association in which a majority do no rule. Is tho Society of Frienda tha - I r of three individuals may defeat the intention of 500 other members. When therefore the meeting refuses to take action on any subject tho inference, with strangers to their order is that the majority have thus decided. This is a prevailing error with persons who pars sentence upon tho society. If friend Barna by in a temperance meeting votes with a mi nority when a resolution passes to put the law in force against the rumseller, there is more semhlanco of justice in holding him accountable for the act, than there would in a Friends meeting where a majority overrule him and pass an act. In the first case he has assented to the principle that the majori ty have a right to rule, in the latter caso be has made no such concession. The idea ob tained to seme extent that to "submit" in a Friends meeting is equivalent to a sanction, is incorrect. 1 "submit"' when the constable tikes my cow for a muster fine. By the third proposition, my friend thinks if I do not unite with the regulations of so ciety, I deceive it and the world. I do not agree to the correctness of many regulations in the Society. Nor yet do I deceive them. If they ever supposed mo to bo in favor f all regulations, they are undeceived long ere this or I do not know how to do it. As t the "world," so far as I can "shed a feeble ray around," my views arc morp or less known and never on prrpcr occasions with held. 4th proposition. I do not believe the soci c'y carries cut his professed principles, but, that duly requires, that I should hence with draw, i-j not so clear with me. It there b a s i, iely er a man rnyw here who does do this. It is v, l:::t 1 did v.it know. Our very ici:i,'.;ic-is it rpprnrs to me, constitute one of the strongest reasons for ferming ourselves into society that l y the potency of combin ed i ction, we may improve) rich other and tho world. My friend and I have entirely differ ent ideas of the dject of icligious societies, lie thinks tinic vhouid he no such society till r.-.en aro perfect it ran carry cut their principles, that they could not crntuninato each other, f.n 1 then there would be no need of such a society. 1 venture nothing in nss;rting tint my friend Barrnby professes to bclk-ve in a doc trine which is even above the profession Friends, which requires greater practical christian perfection to carry it out than any in tho Society of Friends, they do net be lieve human nature competent to att.iin it. It is tho doctrine of community, yet hs doubt less fal'u quite as far short of carrying cut his principles on this subject and probably others us do Friends any part of ihcir prates sions which he can name. IIo admits that he does not carry out his principles. In this ho is like myself and others-. Yet ho disowns the society for the same omission of duty! There is tho difference in favor of Friends; th y do not understand tlicir principles to require them nat lo vote, &c as was tho case with nearly all the non-resistants till recently. It is friend Ilarnaby'e ap plication if their principles that shows them to bo so inconsistent in this matter. In his cwn ens?, he acknowIedg33 that tho carrying out of his principles or professions would lead him to a vary different course. The sum and sabsttneo of all his reasons fordiaowning Friends is, that they fail to put their principles into practice, and my friend will not deny being lilic than in this respect. That he did not do it whilo a member, nor dnc3 not now do it. I consider this a reison why he should not disown tho society. I showed sufficiently in my last, how well the reform societies with which J. B. is connec ted, carry out tlvdr principles by hiring slaveholders to furnish thorn with cotton lux uries, &c. J. Barnaby 's idea, that, the right of a sin gle member ta disown tho body being rathi superior to tho right of the mass to disown a member, does not appear so obvious to me. If ho aud I h.iva a settlement of accounts, and a qucstiun of justice arises between us involving $100, I should be induced to change my opinion of his honesty if he should persist iiicirrying out this principle of claiming lo have a belter idea of right than a whole community or society to which I would desire to have tlio matter referred. Why should not a declaration of my friend, in a society, and out of it of his opinions and his dissent from its erroneous course be a virtual disowninent of tho society to far as it is wrong? Would he feel guilty in hir conscience for a wrong act of the society af ter laboring to the best of his ability lo pre vent it? Does he regard the fact that public sentiment might look upon himas implicated, as constituting him an evil dor! On leaving a society because it is unroformed, would ho not leave a field of labor such as needed his labor most? When he goes in quest of a field of labor in a moral enterprise does he seek a neighborhood where they are already reformed? Docs he expect u havo more influence with strangers than a mong his acquaintances and friends? If the society is pro-slavery is it not likely to re-