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The National Intelligencer,
Vol. I. WASHINGTON CITY, PRINTED BY SAMUEL HARRISON SMITH, NEW-JERSEY AVENUE, NEAR THE CAPITOL. Five Dolls, peh arm. PENNSYLVANIA LEGISLATURE. HOUSE OP RP. PRESBNTAI'IV £ S. On the Election of Electors. The committees of conference, apj rd by the houfe of Reprefe.ntati- Senate, not having agreed on any terms of accommodation, the committee o. of Reprefentatives on the I.Bth inlhuit, made the following Report —. That impreffed with the importance of the object of the conference, as well as with the necelfity lor a prompt decilion, your Committee embrace J thee eartieft moment to enter into a difcumon with the Committee of the Senate; endeavouring by a frank, temperate, and conciliatory example, to ob tain a candid difclofure of the principles, on which the am-ndeients to the bill were founded ; and of the. ultimate views and ddpofitions of the Senate, in relation to an equitable compromifc of the difference, which had, unfortunately, arifen between the two houi'es. That although expreflioris indicating a predetermination to adhere inflexibly", to the amendments of the Senate, efcaped at the v.ry opening of the conference, from forne individuals, it is jnlt to acknowlege, that In their official capacity, the Committee ol th? Senate declared a rcadinefs to hear an\ arguments, and to receive and conimer any' propofitions, which could be offered on be half of the Houfe of Reprefentatives j bul uniformly declined to fupuort by reasoning the amendment to the bill, or to make any overture, on their part, as a bafis for accomm idatiou. That, under thefe circumflanccs, your d the magnitude of the cmefti the conferees ; its inti tence upon the character of the Union. They Urged the facred obligation by which each member of the Legislature was bound to I'ipport the ConlHtution of the 1 States ; and they referred to the Conltitu tional injunction, that each State fhall ap point Electors, in the m inner which the Legiflature may direct, prcfcribing a duty, which the legifl iture could not refute or neglect to perform. That receiving no anfwerto thefbobfer- VHtions, your committee pro Hate that'the ho lie of reprefentatives was actuated by a juftfehfe of the duty enjoined upon the legislature, and by a fair del' for the opinions of the fei tbere fure, the prefent < o iad been re queued by you ; and that your comi conformably to the difpol I view: which you had manifefted on lion, were prepared * reafon able conceili on to the •■ views of the fen That conliucring the prefervation of'the principle of a joint vote, as the only abfo -ception from the difcretion of youi committee, they derived great fatisfactior) from remarking that while on your part, that mode of proceeding was deemed ;i m itter of conftttutional obligation, it did not appear on the part of the fenate to be deemed irre ;oilar or ill igal. Hence it was prefumed that, if the object of the an ments to the bill ittaiftcdby other means, there would he no limitation in vieldingto the conleientious fcruples of the houfe of r. Ps,p<s, what was, in their view, a principle ; though in the view of the fenate it was regarded only as a farm. That on this balls your committee predi the proportions, which theyprefen ted to the committee of the. fenate in the contained inthe annexed, paper mark, ed (A ;) ftipulating for the appoint flexors by a joint vote, but con that the appointment Ihould be fo regulated as to give to each branch of the legiflaturi the choice of a portion of' r to in On this apportion); ver, your Committee did not i, in the firfl inftance, to c their lentiments ; butleftthc ; '; for the infertion offucli numbers as be fettled after an aaveftjgatioa WASHINGTON ' ADVERTISER. That your cqinmLttee received from the committee of the Stenate, an anfwerto their proposition, expreffed in the terms contain ed in tire annexed paper marked (B) —That the anfwer while it verbally objects to the flipulation of a joint vote, evidently makes the objection in a way, thai: did not pre* (hide the hope of fur mounting it ; and while there remained a hope of accommo dation, your committee w< i - anxious to indulge and realize it. That accordingly without departing from Lpulation for a joint vote, the annex ed reply marked (G,) was prefented to the commi lie Senate, in which to ob viate their principal obftacle, it was une quivocally declared " that the apportion of the number of Sector?) to the two branches of the begiflature, was coniider ed as a fair fubject for free di'.'cufiic.n, and mutual conceffion, to the whole extent oi' the number to be appointed." The Senate, is well-as the Houfe of Reprefentatives, mult recognize in this decimation, the ear ned willi of your committee to refene the ftate from the difgrace tlr.it threatened, and are to the Legislature the harmony which has been Lht^rrupted. For, whoever fhall candidly confider the. nature of the fubject ; tbeprecedenl have been eftablifhed in Pennfyiyvania ; in other Hates of the union; the cOmpafa* imber of the. two Houfe s ; or the ge of the people, ( xpr< Red ,h the medium of electi< fail -o perceive, that the claim of the I toufoj of Reprefentatives might jull'y have been placed on higher ground; while the ftrict ion of ?. joint vole, would inevitably exclude the Senate from any particip in the choice of elector:;. That notwith'tanding tl -rated propofitions (at one.' fmccre and libera!) your committee are finally doomed to be the re hi,'lent medium 6f announcing to you, and io the public, th 4 peremptory drffcrit of the committee of-the Senat fad in the; - ;>er(D,) and theeon ' t.failure of every concili.;trry effort. It only remains therefore, to fulfil th that,-has been alhgned tp voir committee, unitting the following resolution to Ibe I toufe : Resolved. —.Tli&tthe I hud.- of Reprefen do not recede from theirvote of non concurrence in the air.endmcm by the Senate to vhe bill entitled '• An act ' ite, the manner of appointing electors of a Prclident and Vice lVfident of the United States." (A) : Ro?osrnoxs On behalf . unit tee of conference oft :)Utivos, to form the. bafis on the !",- I.TJ all be made by a joint ' two brae. liliteire, hut the above lhall he fo ited as to gi\c each brand] a portion 2. That before the joint meeting each branch lhall nominate a number of perfons, e^Ual to the whole number o! electors to :it the joint meet'm; member of the two branches Jlr.dl vote for fifteen electors of whom fhall be taken from the nomination of the fenate and from the nomination of the houfe of reprefentati. 3. That the foruite recede from tl ments to the hill; and that the bill be lb amended in the houfc of reprefentatives as to conform to the firftand fecund propo rtions. Fhe committee of conference on tl»e pan of the fenate, delivered to the , on the part of the houfe i ipon the propolition on Monday evening 17th November. The committee of conference on the par of the, fenate, have confide tions of the committee of • which t i cur. itted, becaufe it principle oh which the a of the legislature their conftitytional rights. WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 26th, 1800. This exception reding againft the princi pie therein contained, it is unneceffary t' notice the other proportions, as they o courfe willbe rejected ; but if the principle were conceded, the fecond proportion is not fufficijntly explicit, the murtber to beta ken from each branch of the legislature no! being inferted. On the whole the comniii tee does not difcover that any adv; can refult from changing tlu-principle. The only object wonld appear to refpec*. the number to beappointpd by each branch and the fentiments of the committee have already been unequivocalI,}1 ,} . on that point. Repeated conferences having already been had on the fubjecl. the committee on the part of the fenate cannot conlidcr tbi proportions made by the committee on 111«. part of the houfe of reprefentatives as fra ming the balis of a free conference on th< electoral bill, but rather as a c pinion. This opinion ha\ in--; been oppofed I fentiments, the i'-nat, cannot agree to recommend to that bi I mfc of i tions which arc offered by the committee of the I to their proportions, ohlinc— 1. That it has been admitted sft debate ority in the houfe of :"( n,efenta it isunderftopd to have been argued by the majprity in debate in the fcnatj, and it Unetdenie.4 by the con-mi;. on behalf of the fei an ap pointment ofeli ofbotb branches of the legiilature, would bcacon llitutional mode of pi 2. That the majority of the henfepfre prefentatrt es are confeientiouflv of opinion, that the fleeter;- can only be conftitul appointed by a j >int vote o of th - re, S, '! ! i i, in aecedin vote khefenate will only wave, what ism their opinion amatterof form: but in d - wirting from it, the houfe cX repfcfenta \<\\ it ia in their opini on, a mailer of principle*. 4. That on an occahon fo critical and im portant, involving not only the refpect that is due to the lacn ci n by which the legiflatiire is bound tofupp< ftitution of the union, but the. very evidence of the union itf If, it is prefumed, that a difpofition will be felt and manifefl both fides of the conference, to produce a conciliatory, end fatisfactorj rei 5. That under this in, ferees on behalf of the houfe of tires, have before declared, and now repeat, that they cannot confent to adviie a fur> of the principle of a joint vote ; but that they are willing to i I cpn- I: ler a n for apportioning the num ber of elect fitch manner as fliall not \ it tional rigbi of th - f< i 6. That the fei ments prop tit of fever electoi c tte, and eight eleel the houfe of reprefentatives; the ton ferceg on behalf cf th are prepared to receive and conlider the reafons of the ol the t, and at the favne time, wdl candidl; os which occur in oppofition to it. 7. That [;s it is obvious thai the only dif ference whi is the apportionment i ber of elec tors, the c.i iiifcree -on beha d* Reprefentatives declare, th tl te propofition in th will in ■ from - and "di m behalf of the Senate, will prevent their > any but the occafion. 8. I Ml he*: ! ■ iHillv, recede from confider the ap to the w hole ex tent of the ntimVer to he a] ■ a fail Paid In Advance. itbject for free difculiion, and mutual con ellion* (D-> , I he committee ct conference; on the part of the Senate have conf-dercd the fecOnd propofitiotts of the committee of the Houfe )f Reprefentatives, in which they do not r ?.nv thing important, to which the former reply of ths committee does not fur nilli an anfwery The committee" of the Seriate haveairea-* dy given their opinion oft the appointment of the electors, and to enter now into a de tailof the ilius on which that is founded would be ui'elefs to thole who base already. them, and not practicable in the time given to reply. The committee confiders the proportions of the committeee of the* Houfe of Reprefi ntatives, as leading to nn- W rtainty and difficulty on a point which (for F the ftate) ought fneedily to he fettled. The modepropofed in the amend* h that dftfired by the com i ft!,- Ilouf'oi Representatives, fwr tfce opportufcity of a dif< | the appointment of the e'ectoi f» Upon the whole, this committee impref'ul with the juftnefs of the principle which dictated the imendroentsof the Senate,"and feeling 1 ben> IcJVea cm i them, c-env.' e<-::e to reiinquU'n I which they have t ilcu. The repo qfleuaon was ta ken eh w! i.;h it < Of?, " Rafolved, That the Hou'e , -■ t recede from tW'w vote of non-com tint ne'e in the amendments pro ' end was cmi d by ■i lai Wr. s new bill in his place, > f tlie principle cf a joint mt fo modified l nominate ! .'> electors end the Houfe cf inirbcr ; that, on, (after fuch nomination and a I notification thereof) the) members of the two h< r.'.es lliei Id meet together and ■( of 'o he out of the ■. ion end 10 of the nomina -6f Ivcpiefeut-rtivcs. This s made the or.hr (if for, the ■ on—the uLiJ rules being difpenftd -a i;! . At f I the houfe met, rtnd T the firft lection b under coniideretion, Mr* Mitchell, fro,m Cumberland, icfe, and ■ 1 'i hired I on to it. The queftion ■• on the bill, and loft, 30 ayes, 36 nfiyefi. On thi 19th in-ftant, fchi bill, led the-day in the Houfe <^i' Reprefentatiws was, ' by 0 motion to reconfider, made bY Meffrs. ileiion and Moore, two of the Members who were in the majority yefter day. The reafon adieu \1 by the mover, Mr. Ilullon, was, Meat the vote Ir'.db'cn haftily taken, and the bill not fully ynder- Itood by all tlve members : feveral not having voted either for or again ft it. The quefticn, then put, .was carried in th ye; and, the firft fection bein fere tin.'he.;i -onement was moved by Mr. Doileau, in order that the bill be printed for the uieef tie mcmbei • , which . d in the nffin i j t n f< me other • on. When I 'erncon, fecond time, '■■:> 1 (a f ■hudl . mendments, nc way i the bine- piadi ) > be ribedfora third reading. On - bill, propofrdby and w.e; feat to the Senate for The Ser.ate amended it, by prescribing that pi o the election qfe'lei c eight perrons, the two h.iules Ihev.ld meet to gether, ftild cho< fe by joint vote fifteen slefctors, each ;■ for 15 per >ul!v made, md the 15 perfons having the greatefj fes being the duly chofen Thu ■• env -.ill pr.f". d tie Senate • n the 20th inft. Keys 1 1. No. XII.