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, <-.;>' ASNUM, CON' • S. //ce fA<tIVRS<. 18. 5. DE) . Quinces motion' d in life. . QUINCY saidj the House ■ ■ n m commit- i on the state of the j bmitted an j -om Virginia (Mr. Dawson) enquiry into the cir . -■ ■ t Che sapeake and the causes assigned for it, itet-in which it was repelled. A t that time two • cf some apparent validity were urged against this motion ; the ight have an improper effect upon tiding trial, the other was as to its form. To obviate the Lous, he had modified the resolution which he should now offer to the House. Mr. Q. read his motion as follows : " Resolved, That the committee to whom was referred so much of the message of the President ofthe U. 8. as relates to aggressions commit ted within out- ports and Waters? by foreign tinned vessels, to the viola tion of our jurisdiction, and the mea- j sure e-y for the protection of j our polls and harbors, he instructed to enquire into tbe circumstances of j the attack made on the frigate Che sapeake in June last, and the pretext or causes assigned for making it, and to report the same to the House." ', Mr. Q. would lay before the House his l offering this resolution. He could not acquiese in the coi which had been given to thai pari of the President's message which rel to the attack on the Chesapeake. !1 • could not reconcile it with a sense of ice or with the honor of this House. I gentlemen tocpnsiderour si tuition in relation to this subject. A violent attack is made upon one of our public ships of war, in a manner un deniably hostile. A great degree of excitement has taken place in the pub lic mind throughout the continent. Our newspapers have teemed with of information, a pari of which, lias been correct, and a part incorrect; which has 601 fallen lith, and sometimes ex dedit; bus been sometimes official, , inofficial. In this situ ation Lieut, of the U. eemed it wise and p udent to call an extra- session of this Legislature. Weare nowasseml He has made a communication to ns, and this . lire in ■ i.; is our situation. \ one.?' Ti I [©use has gone ';' the who up the mi the President, cut cording to pailia mer.tary and we have taken ofthose parts as we pleased to particular com mie- ■ a kind of It work committees. In all ii ; withstanding it Was the object which occasioned the early the present session, no mention is madeof the attack of the The committee, \. he proposed to instruct on this subject, com ■. rally, but no compass by which to si no pronoi He could not reconcile this of acting with his duty. He deemed it necessary to obtain a full of all the - ive to this affair, in order that Congress, and the people tit .'., form a correct judgment of our | ition. Tl ti, ' : ■• ' tO •■tee of parli ourse ol' ■ l\ i ,ii ecu; »c of CO ,' as to thi ROt as to gen motives. He enquired of gentlemen what '~ if tliey icular ~ net ? Would refer it to not mix it up with extraneout you ■ two or tl dist; illy to one, Itfttcuons to •• This rt ill l o VLdtA $ 111 t 111 K iu Gf WASHINGTON ADVERTISER- ■ WASHINGTON CIPY, PRINTED BY SAMUEL HARRISON SMITH, PENNSYLVANIA AVEMUE. ! way to come at the proper understand | ing of a subject. But, on 11 ! ry, if it were the wish of any member \ of this House to promote conceal.. ito prevent a knowledge of facts, the way is obvious. It would ho to place three or four subjects together, and to suffer the committee to Which they j are referred to att as they please up on then. We know that committees ■ thus left to themselves, will never do i tot) much. l It was because the people ofthe U. j State:, wish to know something on subject, that he made this mo tion. It may be said, that this com mittee have already the power, and that tliey may make the necessary en quiries without this instruction. Bui it is the duty of this House to be cer tain that they will do so. Indeed i f the committee were now proceeding in this enquiry, this would be no good reason why this motion ought not to be adopted. If, without being instruct ed by this House, the committee should report the facts now called for, the honor of the act would rest upon that committee ; whereas it ought to ''est upon this House. ii...., :. i • 1 „ /'_.. Perhaps it may be said, as on a for mer occasion, that every man, woman and child in the U. States is acquaint ed with these facts ; but what is known from popular report, or newspaper in formation, is not the kind of know : ledge we want. We want facts from the proper authority. An objection had been made to this course, that it would he easting v censure upon the committee. Not so ; it would be no more than draw- J ing the attention of an organ of the 1 louse to a particular subject. It may be objected to, because a ncgociation is pending ; but what is done by Con gress, at this time, can have no effect on a ncgociation carrying on across the Atlantic. The House is at pre sent calm and tranquil, and this is therefore a proper time to undertake an investigation of the facts required. Let the ncgociation terminate as it may, we shall never have a fair en quiry into these facts, unless we en ter upon it at present. Suppose, said he, the ncgociation has a favorable is sue, and no enquiry has been made, is there a member present who will say the enquiry would then be entered upon ? No, it would be said to be an old wound, which ought not to be probed, but forgotten. But suppose, | on the other hand, that the negocia-J tion should be abruptly broken off, and * this House should be called upon to j put the nation in hostile array, would : that be a proper time for entering up-1 on the proposed enquiry ? Would t : the House be in a fit state for delibe-1 I rating upon the facts required - ? In- : deed, the subject appeared to him so, clear, and the duty to bring forward j this motion so impressive, that he not refrain from making it. Mr. BU R WELL said, he had hoped be should have been able to have sa-< tisfied the gentleman from Massachu- j sells, as to the attention of the com-, mittee to whom this duty was assign ed ; but after an expression which , had drd.pt IVom him, he despaired of' doing it. lie would, however, inform j the House that the committee to j whom the subject Was referred, were ! engaged in a course of investigation] on the very part of it now agitated, 8c ! had come to a deter to obtain, j from the proper authority, a correct: . ii'e.unistanccs attending! this particular attack; not content; this, they were about to call on ■ the government for a detail of all ag- ; L been committed within our ports and wafers. TL a i told us that the I House should at least have the honor of instituting this cu-quiry. By the • which i ids committee diri eteri by the House ■ ssion commil s ; they would no d< it i their duty, and he did hut naoi ci be I louse tar,., do, oxcepi they wished ouhl occa-. sion. It had been observed, that perhaps this : ould be. : ' up, and that we might neve cor-, T it. Mr. B. said, he ' wo,ild venture to ; i ntlc- ■ man that the subject, wot I with j dnation, i i few | tonlywoul om>] vio- j MONDAY, NOVEMBER 9, i- lations that had been committed. He. for his own part, thought it the dv of the House to examine into transaction. Why, said he, should we shrink from any investigation ■ Has tiny thing occurred which should prevent a complete disclosure ? He hoped not; and that, although the gentleman was desirous the a the House should appear on ear!-, record, he would 'permit the committee to ■<• course which Ihey had i .■;!. The gentleman said, that lite pro per way to smother this matter up, was to refer the subject generally to a committee who would only pay atten* tion to such parts of it as they fchoi proper. If this were correct, d not operate most strongly against resolution ? For, if he were afraid Ute committee to whom the subjei referred, would not act on it, the pro per mode would he, to refer it to a se lect committee. Mr. B. said, he would not have risen on this occasion, had the chairman of the committee to whom it was refer* red, been present when the resolution was proposed. He hoped, from eve ry view of tbe subject, the House would conceive that the committee j were discharging their duty, and that i this resolution was unnecessary. Mr. BLOUNT said, that, at the ] moment the gentleman from Mas: a chusctts had moved this resolution, ■ he was in the committee room, in the j act of addressing a note to the Secrc- j tary of State on this subject, accord ing to the direction of the committee, calling for a full and correct state- j ment of all tlie facts relative lothoag- ' gression committed on the. frij Chesapeake. For the satisfaction of j the gentleman,he would read the note which he had written. Mr. B. then i opened and read the neri Mr. ALSTON doubted whether j the committee had power to act on this particular outrage. He did not" know the precise spot hi Which attack on the Chesapeake was com* . milted, whether within the Waters of the U. S. or not; if not, it was pos- j sible the resolution upon which the i committee was acting, would not ail- > thorise them to make the enquiry ; proposed. Ifitwould, the committee j would no doubt do their duty, and , make report of every circumstance ' ofthe transaction. If it should, how ever, be found, that the particular ag ,ion alluded to by the gentleman ■ from Massachusetts was not commit ' ted within our jurisdiction, a resolution . something like the otic, proposed by » that gentleman, would be proper.— - . He should wish the subject to be re : ferred to a select committee. The ; proper way would he, to go into a com mittee ofthe whole on the state of the (union, and a motion to that c might be made. Mr. DANA thought with the gen- [ tlcman from N. Carolina, that the sub ject ofthe attack made on the ILL j peake was not referred to any com ' mittee whatever. The first rcsolu j tion entered into, appointed a i j mittee, of Avhich the gentleman from • N.Carolina,(Mr. Blount) is chairman, ; ito enquire into v as com- ' I mitted ivithin our ports ana l %vaters*' I &c. Prom the 'message ofthe P; c i sident ofthe U. S. it appeared that i the Chesapeake had left iter port, j j The attack on her Avas made in the ! main ocean, at the distance of mere | I than a maritime league from i shores ofthe UL States; and we had ! never, by any act of the legislature or j olive, claimed tei oris-j ■ diction for more than a maritime j I league from the shore, it was \m- i : derstood that this attack was mar the distance of three leagues ; clear- ; ly beyond any sea ever claimed as a ] territorial sea bj the U. S. It Was j ' not in the Gulf, orwithin any prom-bn- i tory or cape so as to mi rito- j rial. This being the case, the Outrage j must be ci sea, and therefore hot yei referred to ' any committee. Shall we, said whollj orail to refer the investigation | of this subject ? Wle i question was presented to theirob ition, he trusted tl., no difficulty in deciding it. If tl c any one subject v. I the particular attention ress, .it Avas this attack on the <L ilf there were any subject o the whole nation felt o 'ient, ! it Avas on this out:.. j any subject tL tion of war or peace, it I* c were any principl :io treaty stipulations to bind it, ii in his view, that a national i ; U. S. euj should think an acknowledgement of j e,ry in a v, its ace.' ir tet ion •.'•e. li. This was a clear, pro ...i tny other; it admitted of no could be no question as to the emptioii i ia] flag from search. If the BritisJi govei isqmed a iple, he did not si possibility of avoiding Wat. Admit .Line tne, ..-as, they had nb • light to take amai>from a p.ubH' tinn ed ship of the U. Sto T>l_ ;> : i . „i ,i... tt c i i The Presidi ■ stances : no necessity ' Lent to induce us I ,to the mo:; Wishing for p ~ion- • al Sovereignty and ran ho preserved, we do I 1 for war, but it is forced upon us. led to disclaim all i and ] I should .not go into an invest); ion,, till! i tbe particular facts v.. I till this disclosure took place, he should * I Bay nothing of the der of the j ! ship which attacked the Chesapeake , \ '■ but if he had acted without authority, ■ his blood alone could atone for it. j In whatever light the subject was i viewed, Mr. D. deemed it of so much ] j importance, so strongly marked tri ' the political history of our country,' that it should bo clearly end correctly ; 'understood. He therefore wis 'the enquiry to be conducted with all J ; the attention due to the subject; for! ' this reason he should vote for the re- ! tion. He had no doubt but the j ieinen composing the committee in, would attend to this sub ject, but he doubi ■■ the en* . quiry was properly in their power, except that part of it, vyhjtch relates to • i violations O? our jurisdiction. The] '. British si • had remained in ! ; our wtttei s ci er since ; he commission . ;ofl he act, in contradiction and dcii- I ance of the proclamation of the Pre , sident of the United States, which ' still exists in full force. ' It ought, in his Opinion, cither not exist, or be o boyed ; if they did not chuse to 0 it, and the means o; Were in the power of the U. S. they ' should be taughtobedienoe by compul sion. He conceived this subject al , ready in tj I pf the com.mi He ci thai he should vote for the 1 i a wish fully laves- , tigai Ma, BLOUNT ol that l whatever doubi might exist as to this being referred to the com mittee of which he was chairman, there could surely be no doubt of its f referred to some CO [Mr. B. read two > tm*s resolutions. ] It must either be re ferred to 1 T to the jcomi ires. If it be the opinion of the House thatthis subject ought to go to the last named ie should . he glad to have the determine Mh.SMILIE had no doubt I tive to maritim Inch j eman from N- was j ; -man, included th< ike. Indeed, I from commit tee, that they with j object, and thi L i,o j | diree re*. ■ why is j j this motion brought forward ? He j ing that ' OUt of the bar, i that they n I attend to it ? There is i to ; vo the committee will noi do) duty, Is nbl eve- r of j , much concerned of thise • the And for ,n,e try. (Lie. .'V AD "I Aitcp. : ing our arml- 1,. He ho] ed ! the gentleman would go a little fur* ; ther, ; entity of i the j Briti wit] Imiral in the late satisfy the .S. ? No , more, will be n I'- sec no occasion, L oni scticui a [flto this discussion; For . he had no doubt vi arrive. ! call for ac inst that country, ■ ,\ v . <of the present motion. I Mb Ul i I, that it ibe the opinion pi" ever;, I man of (Lis House, thai ir of : the Chesapeake ought to be etiquired They differed only about the j proper course to he pursued. A di re vi hich has bet tnade of tho : see no objection Ito the adoption of this I •, an ' it: could U -e.t's. | He thought all I ing it. ~ SMJLI.E wishedto make one 'remark, in reference to what had I been said respecting tee attack on I the ' without our jurisdiction. V, our ai ion. Mt:. P said respect.in [treaty the j gentleman from P< Hnsj I led tp tooid. j The yeas end rial for, i and .. N T DEE said. f notwithstandmi L to ' the amendment offered by the gen tleman from t, some days ago, he W? V of the pi ent motion. It was nothing mere' than an instruction to a c enquire into an affair of ■>. Not. v. L little doubt that the first 're (which bad been read) VI to include anenquir yet he thought it i this motion should be Though the attack upon thi pcake were made more than, a mari . the shore, every lip., of whatever nation, is under the jurisdiction of the nation to lougs, wherever she may be. He was nevertheless in fa tal making an enquiry into this af fle was not for doing this, be .- he was of opinion that the c mittee would not do their duty. he would have it done, that Congress hi act Upon it, and shew to the L that though avc have suff many abuses from the British Nation, liere we will take out* stand. He Lid ' not think this resolution ought to be ; considered in an often i the committee Avhom it went to mi i struct. lie did not believe ti «•; tided. Mr. NELSON would not hare ti re as j and nays been called; but till rear \, hich would govern his > ilutfon on I the table ; nol he wished to use he considered the sd ; already referred. The co i already progrc iscd in the I ! and in tvt : might ! piirpo > j and n< ; L\- wo) ■ Quid do. been onc< I, he e< '. I .