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Mr. findXey said, he was willing v.
fks committee should rise and not
have leave to sit again, because he did t
not understand either tho object or c
the nece-vsity of tUebUl. It v.
to be for arming' lje '
militia. tHd it mean tne arming of t
he b nly of tbe mi -ere called t
into actual service : If so, this had 1
always been done and Congress had <
made ample provisions _ for doing r
soagd . *«• practicable. In
so,. he whole body of then,
lPia were well armed, and in others I
pa, , and Cdngress possessed <
already more arms then it was proba- 1
ble would be necessary to put in tl
hands of militia for actual service
any one time. The government b
not yet been able to manttfactut
more than equal to the annual app;
priation; he believed not so much, a
ion of 300
bud be n already made this sessio
Certainly ibis was more than goVet
ment could apply .to that purpose I:
If it was intended to
maiv the bill oifght
so, which it do
they
tse the numbers of arms
fore nest session of I
I by all th ;ouId;
not ! i
ig in fa-j
vorofthe
to tbe wh< of tbe i
otbci for arinin
meti : mi "
Ktia
. buti
•ovtd-j
ed for neither of
■dy to be r.tV.v] i :
If it is for toy
in ten .iuditi >;
ie mi- |
well arm-j
.•/ they came
r, they leave '
ictr chili
pride oftb« ir families.
The bill bowe-.er only provides for
nilitta
in actual
when
called upon. Mr. !'• '-•' I'• '
was • V) lviv '
tia-e
freq c fie
nad ittvays co that the rin
ing accus
t-: J 0t
importance then al
they could possibly re- j
arms. Many I
us had been dl to j
tbe m. i ' i of Perm lylvania,
tUrou ;L»«t tb
tier counlies (hiring ill
r. war. But wb ,ec are I
V/ben the fhdtans broke out ;■
wards, the countr
ed, more
officers mice tliattime were
cd to collect tl
were feu.
p.ibi
ed ;. '"'>' '°V v '
rrteni
tho
i, in taking
i- of duty wis
provided for no sue
-
i
to tbe House. It
rail
.to provide for at
.. / of tbe miiitia ; but
»!e 10 procure them
how wen d ';'- ( >"
this
man at liberty to -
c to hi > y. L
re procured '
Id not su;>
of the militia. How
tne it distn';
i.-)t -
ii g '
/ to the
i
,c whole
It would not be armin
patt and .JUS whole i>oci,.-
en
would be 27 years in arm
Mr. V. said that a few years since
the government of Pensylvania .
<..„;., el ofarnis to be ma
nured and" required that every
liua man should appear armed on j
the parade, but this law is a dead letter ; j „
they could not procure arms—tfeose g
who manufactured the arms on public %]
contract, proposed having tlie niacin- ) Q
nery in order to continue the mam:-; v
fccture at a much low-r price. Mr. , t
ml be had advisod to embrace the t
offer so that arms might be couvem-l
• for the substantial resident militi
to purchase at a reasonable prio
> They wouid purchase, they wtfuld ,
: have a pride in taking care ot ihei
! and their posterity would consider tne j
} arms of their lathers as a precious
! deposit. He concluded by sayw
! that if i heap 7 l,uulc *
re not sufficient for all tbe
! that could probably or even pos
,red before next session I
.. he was Willi
.or would vol
.' / '
Mr. Randolph said, after the v&ry
nervations of tbe gentleman
m North <'••.
,:i
--rted
up
,mit-
WOttl out with the :
H as they hud
■• i;
I however life woul
b«t
i demand, an I
.! plentiful. A few yeai
f 1 ton in I
. The
. j individuals
r tbe United Stales were
x the whole body of the militia, I
t would cease from this very
I exertion, and thereby go unarmed. !
! Now Mr. R. said, if these arms wers
n ot to tall, how were these
. patriotic kwUviduahi to be pr
un buying them ; for if th
...chase them, so could tbe govern
it en —which tbe gentleman had de
. ni.
,f A gentleman from Pennsylvania
: voice was such
.it it w. alt to nu
8 j deist and him, said that if arms were
i into tb ' v, when
for they would be out of order.
that would be a very good.
lying them with new
/ ' arms, lint how do they get out of
>aid he i In teaching yew ci
ike ti/.e of that instruwi
they si
. | man a
ke aim at an eoeiny J for it
0 shoot at
iss his CTIV.UV
>ot at one. I have _h
:- sa
n he might soil i
s be opened ; as i
t them you will find
;• "'
do not i
to
i for use ; I woo'
so that they C
;t to learn as well as ' I by |
uh
her
hands of
& your h by use,
the militia
iin will have acquii
c of a n which I
i, .vould r.o| give for : ;,!i
, ihe di . i ' Lurope, and
i- p<
[j A Uv.it I app
" b<
~ ..V in callin
8 ill
, you ba\ »ri >-
I 'the rai .ing of
.d paid i.
out
, in gold the
c one, and you will n< >c other
i. broad. You have ex .Mi-tica
j, sure HI Mary p-trade,
a art for the militia.
\To be. concluded in '■■■
WASHINGTON CITY. Isi
i tl
«.<^»— ~ I o:
MO A DAY, AUG OS! 22. y.
ELECTIONS. —A orth Carol
« Fgj>SßAurs&D."-^ lt is with plea-;
sure we have it in our power to state r
j the result of the elections of several ,«
) other districts in North Carolina, in v
I which this state has not disappointed
the high opinion we have entertained j
of her.
In the county of Granville, another ( .
of the three comities composing Mr. -,
Macon's district, the votes for mem- f
hers of Confcress were-— j 1
For Mr. Macon, 5.39 t
For any other person, not oxe. j
Mr. Macon is therefore indubitably 1
■ elected.. '
i In the county of Wake, one of the \
r three counties composing the district 5
, represented by Mr. Stanford, and o
. of the districts in which the greatest. . '
\ exertions had been made, a federalist
,of great personal influence havu
\ opposed bim, there were,
For Mr. Stanford, *&%
! Ir. Cameron, »3I
i '
t Majority in one County, 357
, is therefore c!ect-|
vo other counties certain- \ ,
' ly give him a majority.
Prom another county (bbanklln)
3 have beard of the state election, but ,
0 not tlie Congressional. From this
1 county, arid the two above mention!
- ,; r rs elected to the
c „; ... itecidfediy reptmlican.j
» Another fact to prove that tbe state is j
> e'e Federalieed, is tl
6 from one ■■>*<■ ebun'ties, a
man who has been returned a
ember to ihe assembly almost Wlth
tion for six years', being
olently su ipected of federalist
Ii out at this election by a
hundred and fifto n .'
it Ji ow p v this is for North
. while another state
. little from the pi' s
times, her sons (though
•t no v>
c ril s, and almost doub c their
it f,, üblican voles. Let her
'ate her example.
ict for which we entertain
i, is that represettted by
n Mr. Blatklcdg* ; but **c trust to the
y go-J sense of bis const'uuents. )
mmtm m.
J '- i *\ he Governor of North Carolina
** hifs for the second time ibis season,!
Council of state for the
d purpose of consideiing the propriety
i convening tbe, legislature for the ,
i* purpose Of be executi
5- law. The com i 'c, whenct
vened before, rejected the proposition,
ia It appears to be tbe opinion of our
h C c ' they will now
i- consent to it. Should they agree to
•c convoke ihe legislature, grievous will \
tri be tbe bppn ssion on the poor, by the j
r. merchants, to i ike ©ut executi
>d before the law may prevent them, j
w It is to be hoped that tbe firmness i
b" and foresight of t ittire, if
i- convened, will rior to the m
of odieial characters, and that
A they Will act as their own gOOtl SOI
ie. Without deciding on
n i.he propriety of a non-execution law,
;>t its good tendency mny be considered
:y doUblful.
In a late paper, assuming to otir
the privilege common to ete
is n bf the United states, of
pinion on any t:;ing
, occurs, we c rise
ie that a p«pe* so as tlie London
|\roniclc usu illy is, should
ilerially in point of fact, in
iation conducted
tflis city.
. remark, we find the fol
il- lowing United Si
>wn as a file
tl host:
alion, —
We cojiy the following paragraph
<:cv,
rd for the purpose of once more contra*
c, dieting th that our go
ia ■. Mr. Rose to
ol the Chesapeake
I from all tji As of-.
ill jeri as the lead
id i ■ ,ften will wo
ir. ( 1 refute it."
c- The wretched quifcbler who is the
which follow
om the Intelligencer,
■ from Mr. M/u>r
a sou's luminous letter of the sth of
is .' id by giving it a tortuouv
w construction, bt ored to prove
m tl ration of the subjects was
'■ n
- plain sense, anr! un
e- willing to occupy our columns with a
m labored es3ay to " prove by force ol'i
Ut argument a man's no horse," we quote
ie .Vie. Hose's answer to Mr. Madis
er letter of tiie sth Of March —an autbo
a- Hty which it is presumed the Editor
c, of the U. States Gazette will not con
gest :—
I "It will be in youf recollection, jwe
I sir, that in our first interview, I stated j an
I the condition which makes the subject br.
! of the present letter, before I was in- j Ut
{formed by you, that the President of the j i lll
(United States would conskxt to the pa
separation of the two subjects."
Perhaps the sagacious commentator "»'
may be able to prove that the words su
j " before I was informed by you signify
; " I never was informed by you." °1
Our readers should be cautious of I
giving full faith to whatever news now «
! circulated in the sea-ports from the cc
West-India islands, and through them «
from Spain; for iris to be feared that ih
j letters are sometimes forged in our al
! country to answer temporary pur- Jj3
. purposes, and published as coming °/
, from foreign correspondents.
'I bat published in this day's paper, "'
.' as coming from llavanna via N. York, <~ (
if credit could be attached to it, would Ia
| i excite attention. Two American na- sc
I tional vessels are said to have been re- w
t fused admission into tbe port of Ha- . ™
. vaima(then filled with British cruisers) |iU
' j for some time, and when admitted |P 1
! treated -with indignity. As "straws |»»
! shew which way the wind blows,,'' this J ,'
rue might serve to mark the dispo- 1 ' :
,it ion of tbe Spanish-English govern- tl:
! ment of HsvarftiK to the U. States. ™
- ; We attach little credit, however, to A
• | this article, or the news said to be j
received fromSpstra via Havanna.
The federalists of Providence, IL ;8(
* Island, have have agreed to present a; \
»; petition for the repeal or removal ofj"
- J the embargo. The friends of diucord V(
,11 to act munition.
Sj __♦_—
' Certain federal editors affect to be n
a j struck with horror at an indiscreet ex- ; r<
a | prcssion said to have appeared in a .
publican print, viz. that petitions n
•btto be presented to Cdngress at c
II their next meeting to declare war with J
; > !■:-••■ -in. It is really extremely ridi- I v
•' cuious to hear these persons stigma- n
[l tize a single Republican with the most '
c degrading epithets for hinting at that j "
>- which tbey themselves are attempting i]l
•'" with their whole forre. What i«4 here c
'> mere criminal or less patriotic in pro
ving a declaration of war against ,'
»' England, thnn there is in petitioning d
i for an immediate rupture with France !
ii without writing for the form of a de- I
V clt
| Our re; ders will recollect our hay- | a
mentioned ML Gray, a very re- | ']
a spert.ibb: federalist and extensive mcr- >
ii chaW in Sale , as having by his vote ,
• in the legislature* refused to disap- I
y prove the embargo-. In the days of |
C , federalism, the majority denounced j J
" I theii political opponents. Inthesedays ,
»- of republicanism, tbe same course i 3 |
»• pursued by the minoriiy. Dure any |
IP honest man of the party throw off ihe 1
* trammels of its leaders, and express (
'> an opinion contrary to theirs, he is
H I put sued, persecuted, and nothing but , '
: arm of law prevents him from be- j ?
is ing saci ill. cd to their resentment. In 1
*• ! accordance with this practice, Mr. l
• : (111 ay has been vilely slandered, and
il j the most sordid motives have been at
»- tributed for Ids approbation of the un
it bargo. Mr. Gray, in a dignified letter
l< * to the editor of the federal paper at
111 Salem, thus defends himself:
v,
t ] Mr. Cushino,
I observe in your p->per of Friday .
last, over the signature " Cui.sta,"
r- a piece imputing to mc base and fcor-
E . did motives for approving the enibar- j
at g«> > iU consequence of that, I am j
g compelled to declare to tbe public, ;
, c fact.-:, ye them to judge how ; ]
m far selfishness has influenced ray o
Id nion and conduct.
tn It is suggested that I set the op;- j i
!C | nious of others at defiance. )t
I have presumed to think for my- 1
]. self, and made the Constitution my
i-s guide ; however mi.taken I maybe,
c . my intentions ate at least correct, nor
do I or condemn others, lor i
.. thinking differently ; and so far from
,h excusing the administration for sub
,., mission to France, had I perceived
a- symptoms of submission to that
o- any other foreign power, sooner than
to advocate such measures, I would de
• e vote my whole property for the sup- .
,f. port of the independence of the U.
ts Sti
When the embargo law passed, I i
thongiit it a constitutional mi
ie and I did not think
w it. The policy of tbe measure has
P , been much questioned ; yet I tbi) k
c then existing circumslai '
of dered it prudent and necessary ;
Britain bad threatened, and bad
that time i hough not oflici-
Hy known to ns) the orders of ronn-
Cliof the I lib November, 1807, au
i,. tho rising the capture and contlcm
a nation of all vessels bound from the
iiited States, that should sail for
ratice, or the countries of her allies,
i»5 after the orders of council were known
o« in America ; which included all Fu
{n - rope, except Great Britain, Gibraltar,
B . Malta, and perhaps Sweden ;at those
places very few of those articles, which
we generally export, arc admitted ;
and I think fewer still would have
brought the cost and charges. Great
Britain) it is said, would have per
mitted us, after touching there and
paying duties, to go to France and the
countries of her allien. Is there an
independent American, who would
submit to such impositions ?
Bonaparte bad threatened to put in,
operation his Berlin Decree, Which '
had however forborne to do, so far as
• I know, except in one instance, of the
Horizon, wrecked upon the French
, coast; but his severe and tyrannical
\ decree of 17th December last, called
the Milan Decree, passed, declaring
. all vessels that, should be spoken with
by the British, liable to capture, wld
, decree almost precluded the possibi
lity of escape from capture or deten
tion. After these restrictions oi; our
commerce, bad not the embargo been
[ laid, I think a great part of our ves
sels, sent for the continent of Europe*
would have been captured and ccn
dcrr.ned by the British, (as their or
> ders authorised condemnation) and
[ , probably the remnant would Imve
! fallen into tbe hands ot the French.
\ I fad these events taken place, the ef
ct upon the public mind would, I
think, have produced war ; this, add
ed to the immense loss, which tbe
, Americans would have sustained by
, j capture and condemnation, must, I
' j think, have been a far gi eater evil
j than tbe embargo ; though that, taken
' separately from these considerations,
j|is a serious evil; yet, as a proof that
e\ it was necessary, I find out of seven
, vessels, which sailed from this dis
trict for the continent of Europe, in
the month preceding the commence
. ' ment of the embargo, not one ever
reached herdestmed port in
It is insinuated that i am growing;
s rich, while others are suffering by they
t embargo: I have not reaped any ad*
t | vantage lroi» it, that I know of, in any
[ j form whatever ; those who best know
[ me can s ry, whether I have benefited*
1 others, or taken advantage of their
t necessity. So far from reaping profit;
r j from the t; my estate has de-
Clined more than ten per cent, in va
\ lue since its operation, which I am'
~ t ready to demonstrate to any person
, desirous of investigating the subject.
WILLIAM GItAY.
Salcmi Aug. 11, 1803.
| The proceedings of tbe commercl.il
. m ] and highly respectable town of Salem,
j will operate as wormwood on federa
," : lism. It is to be hoped they will not
I be alone in this patriotic course.
i. ! Published by order tf the Selectmen of
,f' Salem.
d j To the Selectmen of the town of Salem.
Gestlkmkx,
j In conformity to the directions of
c ! the town of Boston, as above express-,
~ ; ed, we you a copy of the |
L tition to tbe President of the United]
It States, and request you to lay the
.. I same before your inhabitants, that tl
n J they see fit they may adopt similar
r _ j measures.
ij Selectmen of Boston*
Qharlc* R '/inch,
" William Porter,
' Jona, Huni'ive/i,
John Ma'/,
Francis Wright,
Jona Chapman.
iy | Boston, Aug. 10, 1803.
" —
i —*
r- |To the Selectmen ofthe town of Boston.
r- j GkkILEMEN,
mj We acknowledge the receipt of
c, ! your'sof the 10th inst. ct ihe
vt I proceedings of the town of Boston,
i- i relative to petitioning the Preside n
j tbe United Slates to " suspend the
\- j embargo, either wholly or in part, :< -
i cording to the powers vested in b'uu
y- by the Congress of the United' States,
iy Btc." and the request of the town
c, Boston, " that the same be laid before
n- the inhabitants of Salem, that if they
>v see fit, they may adopt similar nica
in surcs."
b- We assure you, gentlemen, it wi'l
id afford us great pleasure to co-pper
or with our fellow citizens of the town of
m Boston, in any and all public mca nirts
c- : which we believe will pruu
p- public good.
J. We view (as we have done ft o;vi the
beginning) the o as a wis/
I ! prudent measil v caicii
to preserve the United S'
om being involved in the bloody
as contests of Europe, and to Secure
k their commerce from capture at d
n- condemnation, under the*-auihority of
as B)itinh Orders of Countil ana
ad Decrees. We consider, that there c«.h
:;i- be no safety in renewing commerce,
U- while these Drfrer* and Orders of
v- Council are enforced ; and confidently
ii- believe that tbe I'tesicb nt of liie U.
lie States, without our interference, will
"or remove tin '■ as it can
j S , p. iih safety. In this view we
vn are fully suppot ted by the opinions of
v- many of the most respectable and
ir, wealthy merchants in Salem,
se We arc also apprehensive that the
eh measure recommended, would be at