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or tha< subject, he could not allow tne Iy- deli i i sentiments on the nc —On 'o be iie under • i any men ;enecal it. the coun try . y <h ■ c Frencl whi fro res for c of tlie d utrocit'y which h . intry. li me in recalling to the rec lion of toe House the calami', burdens under whir this country groaned. He did not i wo.!; i, ~:it was t pa minds to look j I '' : • ' I to j t II that ac »n ; si t rhilar courses m y prove ( Whatever were the a met V';' of B b.y would not be fait:, it would, at leA»t, be ! . he knew the best mean of he had j f its view.—H;;v|ng, then, received from I ° n a taunt as to an unprotected part P dominions, let us tal int, r and by an ttr.t of our own render a re- tl •'.ion of thetaUhtunnecessary. It! ( L, been said, that bed a fo 1 in aI tt mortar with a pestle, he would never E on t his folly ; we had been beat in a ar mc'rtar for many years, hut -/hat had Jhh '.re. If we wero lo fo assist the Spa i;rds if was* the du.y of | ministers to see that there was a ra- C; tion of altainiog our end. In >Wi his opinion there wa3 not any such th rational expectation. 'The absurdity 'or of ac'i: g on the divine right of King iiad been the misfortune pf i. ; hit In support of it we had n una- <co vailing waste ol md treasure, had never j ,cd in any leg I of the v . wi lurdens with • orrupt ed ys. ft suited t; t hon. • ; ) wr, • ie as ri- I re( ie to altei . of govern merit ? ten iment to tiie memo 17 of the who involved us in cvi served to have lost bar m bee to tl »• Spain tha hat the lie I j, Loi ''■t-i<-,y , l).i( Vllth. If he ' bee were Bui ti. . fo'ii oich, notWith nojay of the Fi - bravery of our army and it 3 gallant i tcre lie could not belie : mini j mca lerit in an eoe- | fron o-l no f< ( neral that he war in Spain, unless mi hist' the fact of the ' had kno. of tlie Country—ill diici they presumed to take that informs aMa grounds, they had been 'rial _: guilty of a crime of the deepest mag- Hghi le, being a course Calculated a- dere bove all others to produce the greatest it p< calami ies. In addition to accurate oi t information on this subject, they Aug' should have been able to see that there ewer, would be 400,000 men in arms—that egrej all he passes.were secured—and that most they would he able to fight with every gu3t acl. lot subject to want of food, to rei and that hey would only have to fall, as fai if they did i'aiJ, in the field of glory, rrlerc li' igs could not l>e ensured, dersi Ity was not to have landed the ci ingle man, but to have supplied propd ,i with aruis and other ne- by t < night have produced and 'tl ligation of tiie war. These the c lie omy two -ational plans otj o f.all seeding, instead of which minis- m ,. as , i had contented themselves with this qi sendirg only such a body of men as e j , es was sufficient to prevent disgrace to W as b our arm, which tne valor of our to rem army could itself effect, but not enough i se jf 5J dye the nation from an aching j qucsti* ow the heart. Thay presumed, tod, to trust the British d honor on the the oc- rotten plank 6$ tl" dto he merit, ;;ing even tho Inqui .—l hey I ;ht to do so ; ■ .n ii ion Wirti respect to th orley : i "im- to the aye well - for « supply from the exh -> k ;ry <he's of ;ed .. ;t!y pill Ity. j nii ikl have I try, j : zed on I , ey tally to pre- into-. ( 1 he ! d ever ' v - ; I to of ; ■ aid c pie of hi ;e aid il not House was failed on for at of ' at Was rone, hi d ,k% s !J lo bestow ; kings weretoi x- '' ) look i posed to have adu'atiou poured into '' ■fid to j their ear It was the cause of the o- V 1 in ?,i ny of the : pidve oi Europe. W> re the any of the kings who had oi latl fallen u:.der the domini n of Bon .-ere irj * rt, be Was fit that the king of England ° ■ c had j from his Commons, and no from opportunity than the 1 part possibly present itself. T hint, • y'• of ': a re- this being a sii , . uJ '" . It (Mr. C fining) might b ri lug, t. in a j 'he country vu sinking He (Sir . iever j Francis Burdett) as ol that opinion, •? : in a j W*d there w is too much ground to bc-d A : had J lieve it m uk) '-ink still lower, if a re form did not speedi'y <ake ; ,yof| Mr. WatitßßßAp replied !o Mr. " a v-4- 1 Canning, and fei a Conve sation, in t " In j which several such the add ess was agreed to, and was •A'i-y ! ordered to be presented to his m ings j ty by such of the men his m j a bie privy jv" counci —Adj i ho ure, «■ any ov Vv.n. 18. I v/ " HO' LORDS. - rilh The Ol ,c day being mov "upt ed, Lo ward hi, t be !oc- j ton- j >iig the c Iter ' : the in fit ? tention he had avowi d of bringing io v no- forward a motion ;in evidence en at the ost bar, :; j | j iav , c live ion been -•in that v. hi J ; j-e i hould I life . horioi of submitting to ll I vy . bring forward thai he b'jc.e, I to ti 1 to his i i Lh- j as, if realised, tiny wotud I aye pi eh ed beneficial to the interest of ',z. tha Ministers hid al int ! tcrod their mind r< ■ .'■•■ <c* ; ca, and. \ .ed to : d | measures less calculated to Tl c- J from t to Sorry he was that o- i mo foundation in fact. id that hi yen.mi; ii- j have p ie * had no hesitation in saj •ii direct violation of the laws i f a a flagrant nent of the eter* the m 'rial pricipEs of justice. _;• light in winch he had all noble a- dercd that system ; but when he f*und st it persevered in after the propot c of the American government in : y August last, he must now, mo; c ewer, designate it :v\ an act of all » •t egregious folly, the result of th it most unexampled ignorance. In A. y gust last, A iroposed to you l h to repeal or suspend her em doe i f. I) as far as it affected Britrinh com- a '■ merce, if you would rescind your or l> ders in council as far as they ..ITectcd i the commerce of America. Th 1 proposition you have rejected, a - by rejecting it, you incur the odium d 1 and 'the blame of bci >use of Englai '■ the embargo, and of the continuance i t/ of .all the evils consequent upon that < ■ measure. Ad that this question, and had advanc ed respecting it at differenj times, it | t was ly intention now I ti to repeat. He ] self simply to the statement of t.vo I questions, nz, was it just, politi :o fhist j wrse, to refuse the offer made by ' on the fi and thereby p oiong the c of the evils Inqui- that must arise from -ate , ; of our relations with America ? Or igit. | is it prudent now to revise that fatal y determination, and return to sounder ,nd less i, zardous mea cal 11/ th and sham I po-k- procedure we iiad adopted, we put I a s!'.-o neutrality of Europe ! ihe enemy more elfcc cd by tually to exclud nmerce fri he Continent, tl he ever ■cd he should be able to effect : .. ' but America still remained, and o anqther<quarter of ommodities, ; have a supply of all the materials of out try, from which the enemy, , with all his iii' | on 'lie tent of Eui p'e. had o met ~ of deb 11 every o»e be'ween the ■'o cm;.':-' i of put d A'oe -• interests., ' ivedone every thi ;r to inflame ' try thing to / ' would estrange her , and mdi Such ' idency of the po icy :is n jesty.spresent minEti ;,;.rik solved to pursue. How dll , ; ocx ''" ; ' r ' ''' ,ro " "'' ai vvhieh the wis -1 i nto do l>i>t adopted in 17 :lie o pon, which, when he ' ' 'he honor of being <; Im J (hell's he had eudeavor i, by the adjustment ' ~ J. Ol a C ' y, founded up '" on the i of the -,■!) instead ofcultivat- l ! cad of f n of reciprocity, i " i" be now the pan off f. America, aiid r into the arois ol Fran- , out ' V th * ft Vv ' as J'npnKti.c and vi " ill , how much must I7\ tion, ifc ljo . fcl! -'' si,,(:< - the -if ,■ of >bc-,| A ' T, '' ii *'' n Au ost last. R g hi x re . ire of that offer, the strongest V( reprcsciva'ioi.s have been i Mr. it II use, Ui i, iv | tnat '''/' .'ions with France, r^ okc, lintrv, respecting the OCh decree-., ahdO Ai lerica had ;'" bol ' <la decided pai'iially in fa- ! a . l . yrof France. By these assertions, j Sl< fbeen entrapped in o be- I\ m U. founded, & I l. ftvictiori, he lea] j sc c of expressions respecting [f ''-', Which he was lov- '■ What | v " c misr« pi for- ; < we re so i be would not n I If to s y ; but he feli it hisdu- | • biy ' ■' ' ti-.e j n flfohrfdnothii j flK :. them. He tdion thl€ he • • only that the wed, , e< he < ' ivc tltng negociations were Vl to irre |. c ' locuments he would w were'no c rTianc-r, uec this country. The : hen proceeded io read ihe ech of the P esi States to C ,1 gre-ss, whii i to tne - Pf" governments ol 1,: he read the re- " cc< it, with a view to w ,'' Id pi dof ny •/ to ~ '' h< le "y* ivorabl ■to Engl iud s, T ictions 1 •- J the A govern men lto their Paris , :i> j j n«.!ile | on- • >t "' ohger proofs of ihe CouJ< il -im of A iici'-i, •ion to side soone.* With | * tan with France. F'otu ! f all ' ,men's, it appeared, l " , still a stron}.cei - J li ( - U Mr. ( hich however, Vl! . 'he p..pen a uu .on • ' lerica held u,ouy • on: com bed ! in go orderiin i rif, ™*™. •..end i » VI | In- | Ac by 1 every unprejudiced mind to thi lercby instead of much being offered to evils France and little to England, I c wi;s the case, and that much ! Or bad been offered lo England and Ht t fatal tie to France, under By listening to the offer in August men list, England might have secured two :; advantages—the repeal of die Em c put bargo, and the next to a cerounty, ol iropc having Americaasan ally in the war elfcc against France ; while France, in the fro:-' ii ->! ii. stance, had the offer but of one ever advantag ; tluse were considerations ffeel : hich he could not too strongly re ad ~. Commend to the serious attention of >f the their lordships. Let the offer of A ;litics, merica in August last, be candidly f out co sidercd. Let the advantages of lemy, embracing it, and the evils that must >n -he res u!t from rejecting it, he maturely neans Weighed. This was the great object lie had in view ; and to which he mi every a #aih implore the serious attention oj n the their lordships. In order to attain ,; , r ~ thftt object, he should now move am huml>le address to his Majesty, the ~,.,.,,. drift of which was to pray his Majes- II 'WC WO Uld he plcaie:', while '« the d.r.e for negociation was slid open, to adopt such measures as Such lend to restore our wonted 10 icy rc ' :v -J° ,ls wi lea, and re-es.ab lish tiie former footing of our com mercial intercourse with that country. w j. The address moved by the noble lord, \YQ2 wa ' -> u,v ■ ;;i;c ' 'cfers to i the transactions which h . place between this country .nd Ame (j •, ric. i, for the last two ye iVor _ Lord Bathurst answered th ncnt ~!c movC! ' l!(1 we ,t intOa d u _ hi, ,ts; he contended that h * ■•wo ' l^*ri ' !l Council arose of neccs i ivut- ti! ' mi lil ° decree:, and sii r that so far from their being th' ■ of the American en *J r 1 orders in council -wet c , iivJ known in America until the 26th IJo ' cember, and before tli. Km h d taken place* ■ . ("verted to the accounts laid on tho la j? \. ble, and insisted that they prove had suffered no diminution in ou mi inconsequence of the non-juh- ' which w . ' tally distinct from, theembargo ; with j) pert lo the wuilol fi xs ed, that "'l the noble lord had 1 stated, was an irte- c ,' j. mediable mischief for the linen ma ■". ; nut.,, tureoi Ireland. Ii was true thfct' '"' narl ' • ■ , o r | at the present moment l might oci a : sion inconvenience, but that won.! ' >ns, , , ' . only be o- a temporary pressure, l< r . I large quantities were raised in ourowi , 1 f] i ■ n . i sett emc.tsin North America ; but : f ; [ . I present it was frozen Up in lite i "*> ISt Lawrence, until June, which cert , . j too late for th I It was, however, an evil not likely lo ro i i-en<; -re i ° ■ how seed cfosi j en posely for fu ure i ar, by reference ' that although, ins tt[ C " ( ~( ; j the ports being shut in tl the fori from them i out small ; yet, to count j. lance it, we had imported from < v own colony of Canada, more oF rim- !lS bor, lumber, c j eß FY* n which we usually ohtained mc d ports, than we had before im- ex! . potted from those state*. This, he J n jng from the i as it led improve our own rcspurc » ' dered us independent. His lord : to the j pediency qf the O , th it th< y »< re pel I he . ° necessary < oi sequi - v. a: i,u-c, that heu i trflPer'in j the enjoy n* nt of thdir . j * w Loi d Si dmouth tj ii;y oi the o ■ IKOS, whi : id , which he said i i eu f ral n d (1 ri ry o», for 'iio b fit ol one of tiie belligerents, at the > pc .co oi' the other. For a co tiire no new rights by the I . * '«. stare of war; ayd that ■ which in peace he could n wou j But he i new . in the question, w bet; the Ame>i offered to rescind their BC to us, and continue it o 1 with shew abandon our orders • i coUh il ; thought then i. c VI!S ' cou the A ..i'.n to con- C"l i. He insisted ti :e ; ministers had shewn a ' ln H ll I, therefore, ho con- ! I curred in ihe motion of hi i friend. Lord Mkl.tv- bould not noon 'heir lordships' 'imc-, liy misun d, both by the noble ihe noble viscount (Sidmouih.) • '- 01 one said that h-is object was to, r: think, | discuss the entire me •ed to the other, that he mitring to the not! much : the distrust 1 id lit j alluding to tl ugust latter t,-> 'hose wh< ;dtWO Condu ting them. He (' :Fm j ville) should hayi more ty, of manly to have taken a ie war instead of .attempting to pas- a vote in the "i* censure tints blended, in widen the tifone 'Osl design was rendered'obscure, ations He resisted us« it ly re . was an unnecessary interposition of ion of • '"< •: log a hi now of A- pending with the U States. Other ididly motives he had 10, opposing the mo res of tion of the nob: . h he must would briefly explain: the origin of :urely the ordei il was if >bject il>'•in, which viol maritime ■ ghts which had been /.din ion ol Europe for cenlur t pro attain ''ceding in conseqt se e ive an (! '' ' • was on the 7lii Jati. 1807, and ', the ' ne naiurc o\' i ppre lajes- heeded. The rule oft 175'". while w as supposed tO'bi : the jltijj order in council . but if cs as f ' 1c order itself w jnted P r oductive ai such> tstab- W; - IV '^ iC wll: '- --c- | ,etn inconipetcn wkli ntry. * l !iu ' Berlin dec c lord, ?ot only to France bdt toad nations i ,1 of ' The ,k : ht merely uc considered i ilie oid. i, of were -no founded oi ■ctly, d. H i ' '■'0 edicts la tion of all maritime and neu- ]j.. A mm, al si ' the Km ' rent , he d be Lord i , 10 . • i must be i-i --ration. of vith ! that ' "'d. rs iv ~,c . ' iil the.c edicts wcr d ; and he ad< y, thai v odon the ' be to r; 3 gn I c • t p of o ur niais ~ r rights Why should not these , wll he regarded. Could the t '. lt flimsy correspondence betwi : and the minister, indicate their surrender ? It nor- Amerii a disapp inted - i of'the couni ii, ihe whole product S of the former was nr ! fioriverj by the i '■ , and laborious ii lordsi n( j rtleanl m ;dj that they bed ;U:,l > l "' ; t now repeal the measure: ley had seen so much as to oi?stru< :cn . bjection had been n- c ' thejeor [ie reaponoence on the ip. focil :h a li gation we , to re jf *' i in to ' ' *■ If. ;k . no ', p {1 y •io g wh ,: c of tl If -I ; ' A'S!4 a rl \,.i..., .c:,; 3 I kingdom x , rica, ai < won d not be » '' er, I ue inter?' ;, uhd j shew b i , ; was thi I (hear ! hear .'J hu\ j pose was not li • ing the orders in ■ ■ slup'i, w io had d . Ltvrd Aocßf.Ar.'ii