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IT ALY’S GLORY REFLECTED BY LEADERS IN AMERICA Mayor-Elect of New York Latest Son ofj Immigrants to Win Hi"li Place Here. — BY CHARLES EDWARD RUSSELL. PROFITABLY we may remember now that if certain hard-boiled and gloom-ridden racial fa natics could have had their way. Fiorello La Guardia would be not mayor-elect of New York, but a pardener. perhaps, or something like that in the obscure by-paths of Italy; Ferdinand Pecora would be an unsung toiler in the fastness of Sicily; Mr. Tos canini would be as alien to New York as the Sultan of Sulu; and even the great Balbo would have h en received here with frozen face and icy hand— if at all. If we have any thanks to give, let us give them that Nordicism run mad did not have all its way. Long it had carried on an intensive campaign to make the United States exclusively— and disastrously —• an Anglo-Saxon country. To achieve this, it pointed to the terrible menaces to our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness involved in the flood of immigration from what was called "Southern Europe.” The term was merely dishonest camouflage. What was really meant was Italy; what Nor dicism really desired was to shut all Italians from our shores. Glory be that the attempt only partly succeeded. If it had gone the limit, not only would Congress have missed cne of its most interesting, courageous and dynamic members, the Senate Committee an in genious and skillful investigator and music in America its most popular ex positor. but the great, composite, many blooded America would have missed a most valuable plrmpnt.'the element that in the eventual mixture will help to salvage all the rest. For there Is no blood like the Italian. We cf the proud and arrogant Nordic strain are always unwilling to admit the fact, but there it is. incontrovertible, in history. When we rant and roar against the lowly, despicable "South European” we are biting at the hand that sated us. Our shaggy ancestors, or some of them, skin-clad and staring wild-eyed through masses of low-grow ing hair, came down in hordes from the jungle and supposed they had con quered Italy. They did but dream It was Italy that conquered them, over whelmed them, led tlitm as vassals and bondmen to the foul tain and com pelled them to drink. Physically, they overran the country: intellectually and spiritually, which alone count in any lust estimate, they were ihe vanquished. To the strange, mystical, wonderful, in domitable. persisting spirit of Italy they surrendered language, customs, culture and even psychology; yes, as they gave un their skin clothes and rude hatchets. Italy did not become Goth, Gothland hoeaniP Ttal’an Italy’s Influence. There is nothing in history or phil osophy mere wonderful or more in structive. when we stop to thii:k of it. Vet it is only Lhe beginning of the storv. Out ot the southern periphery cf Europe sticks a peninsula of no great size nor phvsicial importance, largely tilled with mountains, a stretch cf land in no way better than many another terrain, end. compared with the continent's bulk, a thing inconsid erable. Yet oat of that little peninsula has come a force that has dominated til entire Western world and made th. world what it is. or the whole cf what we call Wtst f . civilization is, in its or.gin, anatomy r l essence, the ancient Reman em r . >. To its remotest bounds, wherever v may L . our civilization is chiefly a ■’:••• Curse the damn' dago," was the 1 ..tie cry cf the furious Nordic, ob : .sod about what he was pleased to c .1 his Anglo-Spxon inheritance. Well, i;i culture, in art. in ’etters. in law. in institutions \v? are ail "damn' dagos." T.ie spirit of Italy. thn indomitable, the mystical, the strangely persistent, spreading through Northern forests, cro ing seas as easily as rivers, radi ating out cf the insignificant Campagna to the Farallons and beyond, is the substance of the best we have—aside from soup bones and frankfurters. Like it or not. there is no escaping the fact. Hew do you account for it? Other nations have arisen and shone and made a loud noise in the world and vanished—"risen from eastward, fallen to westward and forgotten.” sings Swinburne. This Italy alone shines on from century to century, spiritually undimmed amid the wreck of empires and the clash of thrones p.nd that fort of thins. Bad govern merits and good governments, dictator ships and democracies, absolutism and freedom, trampling armies and crooked smte'men have not quenched nor es sentially changed it. Now on the map a nation, now oartitior.ed among inter national bandits: now. in Metternick’s conical phray "a geographical expres tion." and now united, free and in the front rank of battle, and all the time intellectually, culturally, esthetically one thing—the first cutural influence of the world. Empire of Mind. And not by anv mixture of force of films, at that. The physical structure of the Roman empire that once cast1 its shadow over the known world went long ago with Osymandyas. “king of kings." Dwell on that fact. O blether ing imperialist, and try to be wise Nothing else is so fragile and so evan escent as these glittering empires you build out of so much blood and pil ferings. The human highway is lined with their fragments and heavy with their dust. But the true empire of Italy was never physical: it was mind and spirit, and nothing is better worth the world's attention than .iust this fact of the bewildering vitality of that em pire. Let us see some of its mast promi nent phases, remembering that it is. in reality, not geographical but universal. We think much of our form of govern ment. It is the Roman Senate and Forum. We base our government upon the ballot: we got the ballot through Italy. We think highly of our common law. It came from Italy by way of Eng land. We cherish the names of heroes who have died to establish the princi ples of human freedom. The principles for which they strive were developed largely though not primarily by way of Italy. X skim a few of the high places: to catalogue all would require a book. Think for a moment of the cultural aspect. Where did the renaissance come from? Italy. Who taught, in spired and led the painters of Flanders and Holland. Germany and France? : Italy. Who organized modern music 1 and sent it on its baneficient career around the world? Italy. Who found ed the whole temple of English letters? Italy. Whence came the inspiration of Father Chaucer? Italy. Who supplied the plots of most of the Elizabethan . diamatists. ronspicu msly of Shake speare? Italians. If you are a nrckian. you deem the symphony to be tl highest expression of the soul of man. I. , amo from Italy. You like the opera. It was developed by Italy out of the miracle plays of the Middle Ages. If you cherish good literature you adore the sonnets of Shakespeare. The sonnet was invented in Italy. Keats. Longfellow, de Vere, Aldrich, Fawcett. George Sterling, every master of the sonnet form has been diligently copying Petrarch and Guit tone. Possibly you prefer prose romances. The modern novel came from Italy. 'lake Ciood Americans. Or turn next to phases of the rub ject that may have more intimate ap peal to a more mater ^listic sense. How many times maxing the western passage, have sputtering Nordic? stood forth to blast—with words—Italy, swarming there in the .steerage. "Think of trying to make Americans out of these!" cried Nordicus. bursting with rage. Well, v.e did it. We made Americans of them and in most in stances did a first cki-s job. There are no better Americans today than second generation Italians. I had rather take my chances with them any day tiuill with an equal numb r of the descend ants of the marred M ‘vflower; much rather. I never hear a second gener aiion Italian deriding the country of his birth or sneering at democracy or intimating that the American Revolu tion was carried on by a gang of rascals. That kind of imagery, in m ob ervation, has been confined to mem bers of our pure old Nordic ancestry. O*lit v peoples come over brre and hold, often with rigid persistence, to the tra ditions and psychology of their fore bears. Second generation Italians can respect the land of their forebears with out in the least interfering with their whole-souled devotion to the kind of their birth. Jh The plea of the NdRlie extremist was that these chattering, strangely garb, d people massed in the forecastle could never be ass milated. In my observa tion they have proved, of all immi grants. the most ea ily assimilable I have known hundreds cf Englishn. n who have lived in this country all their lives and ha\e fiercely dn-lined to bo naturalized. Italians seeking their first papers crowd into the naturalization cflice almost as soon as they land I have known Englishmen who reius'd to allow th°ir children, born on this soil, to give the school pledge of loyalty to the American flag. I never knew an lianan oi mac aisposuiun. Naturally Democratic. One reascn why Italians are so easily adaptable to our ways is that they are in spirit and by inheritance among the best democrat: in the world. Yet. even now. misled temporarily in acceptance cl' an absolutism, the old Italian spirit of democracy is still there. Other peo ples acquire it more or less, the Italians are born with it. Live for a time in an Italian town. mingle with the people, note the'r kindly ways and genial psychology, their delightful absence of seif-consciousness, their nat'vc friend liness to strangers. You wi-l see what I mean. Just as the i i:v of snob bery clings to the Anglo-Saxon, the urge of demcrracy. inheritance from the Forum, is native in the blood of the genuine Italian. And now the sen of an Italian immigrant has rhmbtd into the mayoralty of Nov York. Our stupid immigration law. with its perniciou and ill-founded quota ar rangement. was hailed by fanatics as a boon and salvation. Rather it should have been mourned by r'l others as a calamity It has effected it; purpose of reducing Italian immigration, but that is an injury, not a benefit, for it has mide virtually an end of the mures of supply most valuable to the America that is to be. In the racial chemistry from which we are to evolve here a Nrtion of enduring and unimpeachable worth, we really had no need of more of the indurated Nordic material. Of that element we already had enough, and if the events of the last four years demonstrate anything, we had far too much. Expert about many things, of one thing the Nordic has no command. He can build fortunes, plan skyscrapers, capitalize railroads, invent machinery: but he cannot live. Of the whole art of living in its true sense, the art of gaining from the earthly passage some profit of jcy for the spirit, lie is as ignorant as a child. It was this ele ment that Italy was contributing to us and this that our club-fcoted immi gration law excludes. Spirit Reappears. To think back over th • achieve merits of the ever curious Italian spirit is to be filled with as much wonder as pleasure. Age after age it has reap peared. What was manifested in the medieval epoeh through Aligheri. An gelo. Da Vinci, was in. the nineteenth century Mazzini and Aurelio Saffl, Cavour and Manin. Verdi and Bellini: in the twentieth. Marconi and Tos canini. Outward and visible signs of it mav change with the times; at heart it is one. In some way. by some inscrutable provision, some combination of sun. at mosphere. soil or what else, the shores of the Mediterranean had produced among men this singular spirit that presses toward notable doing, now along one lino, now another, but always pushing forward. Now it invents new arms and uses them, now it creates a nation of an immortal opera, now it breeds a great discoverer, now it cleans up its cities, now drains the pestilent marshes, now produces a great con tender in the lists for democracy, now wins New York by a thumping plural ity. now explores the North Pole, now conquers the air, now builds greet steamships, while generation after gen eration after generation shows to the world the infinite capacities of art and beauty to cheer and sustain the strug gling race of men. I think just one line has compressed the whole extraordinary' storv: "Italia—mother of the souls of men!” Two Austrian Concentration Camps Prevent Aazis From l)oin<r Any Harm VIENNA—Keeping the Nazis on ice through the Winter is the function of Austria’s two concentration camps for political prisoners. Thousands of Hitlerites already have been sent to jail for periods of two weeks to seven months, but many of them have not taken their punishment seriously, in a tew instances making a sort of sarcastic pageant out of their entry inte jail and a triumphant parade 1?jt of their home-coming later. So a few have been isolated in the concen tration camps at Woellersdorf, not far from Vienna, and at Finstermuenz, near Mauders on the Swiss-Tyrolese border. The Woellersdorf camp is too invit ing. The prisoners are housed in old barracks formerly occupied by workers la the war-time munitions plant there. At, Finstermuenz they are far more ro mantically—and far more uncomfort cbly—quartered For the concentration c?mp there is an old fortress 3,000 feet Above sea level, surrounded by glacier capped mountains, built during the Ka ! poleonic era, the fortress had been standing empty for decades when the ! Tyrolese director of public security chase it for a prison camp. Only about 100 Nazis were listed on : the Wocllersdorf roll at the beginning ! of December, and still fewer were try ing to keep warm at Finstermuenz. De spite the small scale cf these operations compared with the thousands of po litical prisoners sent to concentration camps in Germany, the Austrian gov ernment discouraged requests of news paper correspondents to visit and pho tograph them, even after Woellersdorf was distinguished by the arrival of Prince Bernhard von Sachsenmein ingen. a distant relative of former Kai ser Wilhelm, who was jailed in Carin thia some weeks ago for Nazi activi I ties. In addition to several thousand Nazis serving brief terms in various iails. more than 2.200 have been disfran 1 chised for anti-government activities. Confidence, Then Trade That’s Stalin’s View of Possibilities in New' U. S.-Soviet Relationships-Discusses Many Questions. IJY WALTER IH RANTY. n n OSCOW —Joseph Stalin, gcn /l/l CIa‘ 5ecretary of the Com" I \l I munlst pat ty. received me at i 11 \ p m. on Christmas day in his Kremlin office for an hour's interview I began by a-king him would Jos, ph Stalin f'lid a message to the Amiran pi op! ’ He repli d: -No Prcsiuent Kalinin has already done that and I do not want to tres pass on his prorogate es. Naturally. I am pha^d b; the : esuir.pt :cn of rela t , 1 - winch is an act cf paramount Un co.tone. -politically, b 'cause it im prove tile chances cf main airing P'acr: econi'n'ically. because it enab.es ,ur two countries to get together and discntc. questions between t li in without ivard to extraneous ren' iderat ions. F nullv. it opars the way to mutual co operation ” , ... Cutwardlv M Stalin has changed ht tp. sinre I talked with him three years ago there is. perhaps, more erav in ill- hair end mustache, and his face Ir •• be a trifle thinner, but his figure, in a khaki tunic button d up in the (Pin. kl'.a’ci breeches and black boots— >... were no d corations or tabs on his uniform—is erect and strong and his hand; hake firm. But he seems to love mellowed, and. if cr.,. in .v say so. he seems more human During the previous interview I was r-irtiruVrU strutk bv the low toneless i f M S'.-.Ii; \s voice—as if he felt the i ed - f < nst rvir.g every at m of energy for his gigantic task. Now hr : news more animation and less restraint. Sim larity to Lenin. He reminded me greatly of Lenin, whom I i. ver m"t personally, although 1 lv ;■1 d him speak .several times There is the fame trick of using colloquial, homely phrases; the some flashes of hrm, r the same quick, cutting gesture it th : lrht hand to stress a point ’ :’r-e t. mu too. M. Stalin lias a way of , u carliei subj ct to explain ; nd cm e it heme. I do net for a moment suggest it is a d •!:!* rate imitation, but I believe >!m l as so trained himself to ask vumt Lenin would have done in a given v'r.rture and to think along Lenin's lines that unconsciously he has adopted many of Lenin's mannerisms. I asked M. Stalin his opinion about American Soviet trade and he replied: ■ what Foreign Commissar Lltvmon said in London still holds good. We are the greatest demand market and are readv to order -and pay for—large q unlit it s of goods. But we require factory conditions cf credit, and. v. hat is more, we must have the assur ance that we can pay. "It is impossible for us to import unless we <an export, because we will not place orders unless v.e know we can pav for thcr.i when the time ccmes. Every one has been surprised that we are paying, that we do pay and that v.e can pav. I know it is not customary to pay ciibts nowadays, but we do it Other nations Tenig- on their debts. The 1’r.inn of Soviet Socialist Re publics di es not 'renig.' They thought we could not pay. that we had nothing to pay with, but we showed them and they had to admit it." Gold Sources Developed. I asked about Soviet gold produc tion M. Stalin said: •■\Ve have m:;nv sources of gold sup ply .;nd they are being developed last. Already our production is nearly double That of czar is’ times—more than .00. COO.OOO rubles. In the last two years, especially, we have improved methods of investigatire new cold reserves and have found vast supplies. But our in dustry is young—not only in gold, but in iron, steel and copper. -All cf our metallurgy is young‘and our industry is not yet able properly to help gold production. Our tempo is fast, but our volume is still too small. We could quadruple gold production in short order if we had more dredges and "machines. We advance rapidly, but not nearly so rapidly as we wish.” Then, like Lenin might have done. M. Stalin came back to his previous point: Our more rapid development of foreign trad" depends on conditions and the amount of credit. We have never failed to meet our obligations. We might have claimed a moratorium like the rest of them, but we d:d not because we did not want to break con fidence. And confidence, as every one knows, is the basis of credit. "What I mean is that the volume of our trade with America for the time being must be measured by the degree of confidence America puts in us—and this by the volume of credit.” To Pay Debts Next Year. I asked what was the total of Soviet foreign obligations at present, and M. Stalin said: "Not much more than 450.000.000 rubles now—we have paid off a lot in The ra'-t. two years. Two years ago It was 1.400.000 000 rubles, but we have paid it off. and we reckon we can whol ly clean up the present obligations by the end of next year or early in 1935. as they fall due.” I Interrupted to say: "All right, let us admit there is no longer any doubt about Soviet willing ness to pav. But w hat about Sot iot capacity to pay?" M. Stalin caught me right up. rep.y 11 "Today there is no difference between the two. because we will not take on cbligaticns that we are not sure we ear, meet. Look at cur economic relations with Germany. "Germany has declared a moratorium cn a large part cf her foreign debt, and we might have used Germany’s prece dent to do the same to Germany. But we didn't. Today we are no longer so dependent as we were before upon Ger man industry—we can make our own equipment.” "And what do you think of America? I asked, adding: "I hear you had a long talk with Ambassador Bullitt the other night. What do you think of him? Do you still think, es you told me three years ago. that our depression is not the 'last crisis’ cf capitalism?” Liked Bullitt “Very Much.” M. Stalin smiled and said: “I and my comrades liked Ambassador Bullitt very much. I had never met him before, but I bad heard a great deal JOSEPH V. STALIN. about him from Lenin. who liked him. too. What I like Is tnat he does not talk like the average diplomat. He is straightforward and .'•ays what he means He made a very good impression here " There was r.o mistaking the sincerity of M. Stalin's words, nor the sincerity of the compliment he twite paid to Presi dent Roosevelt, of whom he said. “By all ! appearances a decid 'd ar.d courageous political leader " He added: "There is a philosophical system called ‘solipsism.’ which means you do not believe in the reality cf anything outside of yourself, but only in ycur own personality. For a long time it looked as if the American Government was “solipsist’—it did not believe in the China Not Reaping Profit Exported From $40,000,000 l . S. Cotton Loan SHANGHAI. — The United States S40.000.000 American cotton loan to China thus far has not proved to b? the bmunza that former Finance Minis ter T. V Soong had hoped. Although 1I1? finance ministry ha.s not made pub lie actual statistics, it is known that the volume of American-loan cotton ab sorbed to date by the Chinese market is substantially below the expectations of the government. The sluggish move ment of loan cotton is not due pri marily to econr.mic causes, but may b" attributed largely to the present status cf Sino-Japai.es? relations. Under normal prices American row cotton car not compete in the Chinese market with Indian and Chinese cotton in The cheaper manufacturing field American ccTton. on the other hard, has a monopoly cf the high-grad** product. Japanese Mills Chief Consumers. Japanese-owned mills in China have a virtual monopoly cf high-quality cot ton manufacturing and during an aver age year ob'orb from 65 to 75 p°r cent of all the American raw materia! im ported. Accordingly. Japancs0 mills should be The heaviest potential buyers of Amoiican-loan cotton—sheu’d br if only economic requirements were con sidered. But. as o matter of fart. Japanese owned mills are not purchase g loan cotton in larg-- quantity, and the expla nation is that the mill owners are afraid cf adverse criticism from certain politi cal and military groups in Japa. When the American cotton loan was first an nounccd. a high military officer in Tokio. according to the Jap nrse press, warned the cotton mil! owners against purchas ing American-loan ertten lest the pr> c^cds of the lean be utilized by the Chinese for armaments to be used against Japan. American C otton Taxed at Port. Under the present plan of distribution and price fixing it is fallacious to assume that the ioan will increase the consumption of American raw cotton in China I*oan cotton is subject to the same oust ms duties as eotl inch - pendentlv imported and is sold at the market price prevailing at the time eon traded for. No special credit facilities are rfTorded. all sales being transacted cn a cash bisi'-. No cottor shipments are made frem the United E’atcs until orders are in hand So long as the foregoing conditions nrevail the cotton loan will have no material b an: g on the ..mount of American raw cotton consumed in China. (Copyrigh . lM.'S.J.) A Double Life BY BRUCE BARTON. k—±—m-— a —' _ _ : ia , _ , WHENEVER the city begins to tread on my heels and all the “advantages" of modern life seem like just so many annoyances. I have an antidote. I go up into the country and spend a day and a couple of nights. Through the open window of my sleeping porch not a single sound comes in. If snow falls during the night 1 wake up to find not one footstep in front Oi my door. There is a telephone, but it never rings. There is a radio, but I never turn it on. There is an automobile. but I prefer to walk uptown to get my newspaper and my pipe tobacco. , , , I read books like “Walden, by Thoreau. who built a shack in the woods of Concord and lived there a whole year for a cash expenditure of little more than $27. I talk with very wholesome people and I reread these sen tences of Tolstoy: "The more I examined the life of these laboring folks the more persuaded I became that they veritably have faith and get from it alone the sense and the possibility of life . . . Contrariwise to those of our own class, who protest against destiny and grow indignant at its rigor, these people receive maladies and misfortunes without revolt without opposition, and with a firm and tranquil confidence that all had to be like that, could not be other wise. and that it is all right so. . . . The more we live by our intellect, the less we understand the meaning of life. . . . There are enormous multitudes of people happy with the most perfect happiness, although deprived of what for us is the sole good of life. Tnose who understand life’s meaning, and know how' to live and die thus, are to be counted not by twos, threes, tens, but by hundreds, thou sands millions. They labor quietly, endure privations and pains' live and die. and throughout everything see the good without seeing the vanity. I had to love these people. The more I entered into their life, the more I loved them; and the more it became possible for me to live, too." Tolstoy was a philosopher, and I am not. My lot is cast in the city, and the only way I can make a living is by staying there But I am glad I have a double life to the extent of being able to get up to my farm at least once in a while. When I am there I find myself very little interested in the speeches of politicians. My general attitude is that pretty nearly everything politicians do is done wrong. They make wars. They erect tariffs. They hold out promises which cannot be fulfilled. All I ask, in the country, is that they should let me have a roof over my head simple food, old clothes, cheap smoking tobacco and peace. When they berate me for not “buying now" I am merely annoyed. When they tell me that if I will turn out one set of them and put in another set everything will be all right, I pay no attention. I note that the trees grow slowly, that the streams still refuse to run uphill, and that the stars do not seem to have been affected in the slightest by all the worries I have encountered since I was a boy. These are important facts to bring back to the city-half of my double life. (Copyright. 1933.) | existence of the U. S S R But Roose- ; J veit is not a supporter of that strange j ! theory. He is a realist and knows facts I as they are." From Lenin's chief cisciple there,1 \v. ulci be no higher praise. Regarding the depression. M Stalin said i It shattered them badly, but unless J T am mistfkm bu.>ine,c is beginning to; ' improve. I think the lowest point, per haps. is already past. 1 do not i) lirve j . they will reach the heights of 1929. but 1 with seme fluctuations a transition tov-.rd a revival is not only pos.-ible, but probable " M. Stalin asked me what was the atti- I lude cf Ann rican intellectuals at present ! toward the American situation ana what had become of Representative Fbh at.d the “dumping scare" and ether phases of opposition to resumption of Soviet American relations. Uncertain of Advice. I rrp’.ied cautiously that the intel lectuals seemed'to b< playing a b.geer I : role than heretofore in American affairs, j 1 but that the "man in the street”—not; only in Wall Street—was net quite sure] that their advice and theories were , wholly practical. Mr. Fish. I said, had talked cn the' radio, but his speech did not seem to affect the course ni th.r Soviet-American neg tiations In Washington, while other phases of oppesi:; >n had. one gathered. I oMiu" h.arc:> to chase nowadays—mean-! mg. I added, tile American Federation ] of Labor, which. I said, had gained much strength < l late. but was so in vi lvi d in hi me affairs that it no longer undertook to direct the foreign policy of the United States. M. Stalm grinned appreciatively and hts eyes crink.ed tip at the corners just j the way Lena.'.; u.-ed to do when his audience veiled as he made some ver- j nacular wisecrac k. M. Stalin :p.ke most seriously about Japan. "We should like.” he said, "to have friendly relations with the Japanese, but unfortunately that does not depend on us alone. If the more reasonable ele ments end more prudent counsels pre vail in Japan our two countries can live in amity, but we fear that the militant faction may push saner policies into the background. “There is real clanger, end we are forced to prepare ourselves to meet it because no nation ran rerocct its gov ernment if it does not foresee the dan ger of attack and prepare for self-de fexise. It sc ms to me viia Japan would be unwise t.) a tark r. Her economic position is not so;;:id. and she has points of weakness—Korea. Manchuria . and China. Sympathy far Germany. “It is uncertain. too. whether she would get support for such an adven ture from ether powers. But good sol diers are not always good economists and do not always appreciate the differ ence between the force of arms and the force of economic laws. I repeat that there is grave danger. and we cannot but prepare to meet it. " This brought the conversation to Ger manv—that ether danger point on the world poa-e horizon. M. Stalin rx 1 pressed ryrmo.thv : r and appreciation of the German pr pie. About Britain ' he v.:■ s more copris". “I thin!-: a rotnmercial treaty will b" signed with England." he said, ' and that economic relations will b- devel i pec! becr.u e tlv ruling Conservative j party must realize it has nothing to gain by barring trad? whh us. al I though.” lie added significantly. "I m * d ubt whether in the present circumstances tl-*? rritual advantage wiU bo so great r.s might bo hoped.” I asked what tlr Soviet attitude to ward the League of Netio-.s—v.as it ex clusivelv negative?—and to the Italian .suggestions cf reforming the I_c?gue. M. Stalin said: “We received no proposals from Italy cn the subject, ai'houeh our represent ative discussed the question with the Italians.'’ H* looked at your enrresponde-' rather quizzically and continued: "I do net think you quite understand ou" viewpoint. We not always and In all I conditions take a negative attitude toward the League. Despite the Ger mnn and Japanese f'xit from the Leag ’*' —or. perhaps, because of it—the League may well become a brake to retard or hamper military action. "If that is so if the Leazue ’s onlv the tiniest bump"—he used a Russian slang expression—“somewhat to slow down the drive toward war and help peace, then we are not against the League. In that event I would not say we would not support the League. I would sav that if historical e vents were such that the League became a brake upon or on obstacle to war. it is not excluded that we should runport the League despite its eollesal deficiencies.” Distribution Is Trob'eni. T asked Statin what he thought were the most important internal prob’ems of the Soviet Union. He replied with out hesitation: “Development of the distribution of: consumers’ goods between town and | country, and *he improvement of tran*- ! port, espccial’y the railroads. This is not so easy to solve, but it is easier than the problems tv? have solved be fore. and I am eonfiden' we ran solve it. We have already solved the prob lem of industry and of rollecti vising the peasantry—that was the most diffi cult. but we can nctv consider it solved. There remains the problem cf transport and distribution." It is here worth remarking that throughout 11?? interview M. Stalin showed the same complete assurance and confidence in the future that characterize:; everv Soviet executive— and the rank and file for that matte? —in the Soviet Union trdiy. From high to low they feel they have “crossed the divide” and that, although the road ahead may not be easy. It will be easier than the road behind them was. (Copvrifbt. 1033. by the North American Newspaper Alliance and the New York Times.) Greere and the Sams. From the Fort Wayne News-Sentinel. As between Sam and Uncle Sam the Greeks seem to have made the proper decision. & 1933 MARKS DEPRESSION LET-UP IN LATIN AMERICA Change for Better Is Recorded for First Time Since 1929—Political Record Is Considerably Improved, BY GASTON NERVAL. IN Latin America, as in the United States, 1933 will be remembered as the turning point in a period of de pression and general discontent which lasted for over three years. No “new deal" seems to have descended, as yet, upon the inhabitants of the Southern republics, and Queen Depres sion still reigns, bu. the year just ended has seen the halting of the downward trend and has recorded, for the first time since 1929. a change for the bet ter in Latin American domestic condi tions. As could only be expected, the wide spread discontent brought about by the depression had been expressing itself in Latin America in popular unrest and political upheavals. During the past three years governmental stability in the Southern Hemisphere had been at a low ebb. And students of Latin American history knew that this in ternal instability was Inseparable from the sad state of economic conditions. By the same token, the considerably improved political record of 1933 should be interpreted as an indication that the worst of the economic depression in Latin America is over. With the single exception of Cuba, where the last of the Latin American pre-depression dictatorships was abrupt ly brought to an end, the past 12 months have only witnessed two presi dential changes south of the Rio Grande, and neither of them was the result of open revolution. In Ecuador. President Martinez Mera was lorced to resign by congressional pressure, and a provisional government peacefully con ducted elections tc find a successor, In Peru. President Sanchez Cerro was assassinated by a political fanatic, but without any interruption of the public order. G n. Benavides, chosen by Con gress. took the reins of power and kept the wheels of government going. In Brazil. Honduras and Ecuador minor outbreaks were reported at various times, but they never assuimd serious rrnnnrtinnc Talles Plan Prepared. This record compares very favorably with that of the past three years, each of which were marked by at least half a dozen violent revolts and an even larger number of presidential changes. Comparatively speaking, the Latin American political record of 1933 seems rather uneventful. In Mexico. President Rodriguez com pleted the first year of his administra tion. undisturbed by party rivalries, and prepared the ground for the launching of the Calles six-year plan, which is to top the social, economic and agrarian reforms the country is undergoing. In Guatemala, President Ubico, though no longer enjoying the support of ail political sectors which permitted his unanimous selection for the presi dency, was not confronted by any serious opposition, and added to his achievements by the conclusion of the long-standir.g territorial feud with Honduras. Honduras, itself, after suppressing an unsuccessful attempt to prevent the inauguration cf the duly elected Chief Executive. Gen. Cartas, saw another orderlv and constitutional charge of government, even though this meant a change of the parties in power. Ir. Nicaragua. President Sacasa. In the first few weeks of his administra tion. brought about the complete pacification of the country, a task which three previous regimes and the Marines of the United States had failed to accomplish. As a result. Nicaragua has had her first peaceful year since 1926. and President Sacasa, though embarrassed by difficult finan cial problems, has seen his personal prestige enhanced both at home anc abroad. In Costa Rica, where the year before internal peace had been interrupted for the first time in a long period, popu lar reaction in favor of law and order were so strong in 1933 that President Jimenez felt safe in denouncing the Washington tr-atics which forbid rec ognition of revolutionary governments in Central America. This is also true of El Salvador, where President Martinez has definitely consolidated his transitional regime and obviated juridical objections to the same. A large sector of public opinion is now demanding that he present him self as a pre^dential candidate for the next regular term. President Trujillo of the Dominican Republic finds himself in a similar position. The achievements of his ad ministration. both politically and eco nomically. have been such in the past two years that opposition at home hae given place to a strong movement m favor of his continuance in power when his present term is over. Domestic peace was also uninter | rupted in Haiti during the year which | ends today. President Vincent in | creased his following by the conclusion of the executive agreement with the 1 United States, tending toward the sup pression of American interference and then by his request to President Roose velt that the aims of the agreement be fulfilled at once, without waiting for the time provided therein. Big Disturbance in Cuba. The support which President Arias of Panama always enjoyed among all classes of the Panamanian people was continued throughout the year. If any thing. it was increased by his trip to the United States, Mexico and some of the Central American nations, and his conferences with President Roosevelt, which resulted in a gentleman's agree mi nt to improve the present status of Panamanian-American relations. In Cuba, of course, took place the one major disturbance of the year in Latin American politics. But here. too. the outbreaks of violence and the unrest prevailing even now may be more prop erly described as the consequence of conditions which had been accumulat ing since 1928, when President Machado had himself re-elected — conditions which only sheer violence and skillful diplomacy had kept from exploding be fore August. 1933. Moreover, the relative leniency of the civil strife in Cuba af tr the peaceful withdrawal of Machado, the mild reaction of the masses after a dictatorship of several years, is rather surprising to the person familiar witn Latin American political emotions. Re member only the most recent case be fore Machado; remember how many chansos it took Peru to secure a stable government after the fall of Dictator Leguia. In South America the record of 1933 is also remarkable compared with that I of the depression years In Colombia, President Olaya entered the last year of , his administration with strong parlia mentary support and his popularity en hanced by the dignified manner in conflict with Peru. To Venezuela peace in 1933 was noth ing new. A few days ago she celebrated the completion of 25 years of continual stability. This is, of course, an unusual i record in Latin America. But then, too, Venezuela has an unusual man at the helm. Under the leadership of Gen. Gomez the Venezuelan people re mained during the year peacefully de voted to the development of th::r culture and natural resources. In Ecuador various revolutionary plots were reported during the year, but none materialized. Not long ago Presi dent Martinez Mera tendered his resig nation. confronted by bitter opposin'.n in Congress. But even this failed to provoke disorders or renew the civil struggles of 1931 and 1932. Presidential elections were orderly conducted a few weeks ago and the man constitutionally | chosen to head the new government will | soon be inaugurated in office. The assassination of President San chez Cerro of Peru also failed to plunge ! that country into the internal anarchy at which the perpetrator of the crime was declared to have aimed. The Peruvian Congress quickly selected Gen. Benavides to fill the vacant post, and the libera! measures he immediately adopted rather weakened the opposition which the government had confronted under Sanchez Cerro. Interest Centered in Chaco. In Bolivia, as well as in Paraguay, internal politics were naturally rele gated to a second place by the Chaco conflict, which only now has been brought to a halt. The external situ ation strengthened the position at home of both governments, though its final outcome may equally affect them in the months to come. Argentina and Chile had also a normal year, politically speaking. No major interna! crisis distracted the gov ernments of President Justo and Ales sandri from their efforts at national reconstruction after the disturbances of previous years. The same was true of Brazil, where a minor outbreak w'as easily quelled and the way paved for a return of the country to a consti tutional status through general elec tions Finally, in Uruguay, it was the Presi dent. and not the opposition, that en 1 acted a “coup d'etat" in order to in trench himself in power and dispose of the council of administration, his most powerful opponent. Despite the threat of a civil war the dissolution of the council was carried out smoothly and President Terra was able this month to set aside political worries to entertain the delegates of 20 American republics to the Seventh Pan-American Conference. (Copyright, maa.) 1 ■ i To President Roosevelt <Continued From First Page > looked to me more like a gold standard on the booze than the ideal managed currency of my dreams. Administration Persists. You may be feeling by now, Mr. President, that my criticism is more obvious than niv sympathy. Yet truly that is not so. You remain for me the ruler whose general outlook and atti tude to the tasks of government are the most sympathetic in the world. You are the only one who sees the necessity of a profound change of methods, and is attempting it without intolerance, tyranny cr destruction. You are feeling your wav bv trial and error, and are felt to be. as you should be. entirely un committed in your own person to the details of a particular technique. In my country, as in your own. your posi tion remains singularly untouched by criticism of this or the other detaii. Our hope and our faith are based on broader considerations. If you were to ask me what I would ! suggest in concrete terms for the im mediate future, I would reply thus: In the field of gold devaluation and exchange policy, the time has come when uncertainty should be ended. This game of blind man’s buff with exchange speculators serves no useful purpose and is extremely undignified. It upsets con fidence. hinders business decisions, oc cupies the public attention in a measure far exceeding its real importance, and is responsible both for the irritation and for a certain lack of respect which exists abroad. You have three alternatives. You can devalue the dollar In terms of gold, returning to the gold standard at a new fixed ratio. This would be in consistent with your declarations in favor of a long range policy of stable prices, and I hope you will reject it. You can seek some common policy of exchange stabilization with Great Britain aimed at stable price levels. This would be the best ultimate solu tion: but it is not practical politics, at the moment, unless you are prepared I to talk in terms of an initial value j of sterling well below $5 pending the1 realization of a marked rise in your domestic price level. Recommends a Course. Lastly, you can announce that you will control the dollar exchange by i buying and selling gold and foreign currencies at a definite figure so as to avoid wide or meaningless fluctuations, with a right to shift the parities at any time but with a declared inten tion only so to do either to correct a serious want of balance in America’s j international receipts and payments or to meet a shift in your domestic price level relative to price levels abroad. 1 This appears to me your best policy during the trensitional period. You would be waiving your right to make future arbitrary changes which did not correspond to any relevant change in the facts, but in other respects you would retain your liberty to make your exchange policy subservient to the needs of your domestic policy—free to let out your belt in proportion as you put on flesh. In the field of domestic policy, I put in the forefront, for the reasons given abode, a large volume of loan expendi ture under Government auspices. It is beyond my province to choose par ticular objects of expenditure. But preference should be given to those which can be made to mature quickly on a large scale, as for example the rehabilitation of the physical condition of the railroads. The object 1s to start the ball rolling. The United States is ready to roll to ward prosperity, if a good hard shove can be given in the next six months. Could not the energy and enthusiasm which launched the N. R. A. in Its early days be put behind a campaign for ac celerating capital expenditures, as wisely chosen as the pressure of cir cumstances permits? You can at least feel sure that the country will b? better enriched by such projects than by the involuntary- idleness of millions. The Upturn in England. I put In the second place the main tenance of cheap and abundant credit, in particular the reduction of the long term rate of interest. The turn of the tide in Great Britain is largely at tributable to the reduction in the long term rate of interest which ensued on the success of the conversion of the wrar loan. This was deliberately engineered by the open market policy of the Bank of England. I see no reason why you should not reduce the rate of interest on your long term Government bonds to 212 per cent or less, with favorable repercussions on the whole bond market, if only the Fed eral Reserve System would replace its present holdings on short-dated Treas ury issues by purchasing long-dated issues in exchange. Such a policy might become effective in a few months, and I attach great importance to it. With these adaptations or enlarge ments of your existing policies. I should expect a successful outcome with great confidence. How much that would mean, not only to the material pros perity of the United States and the whole world, but in comfort to men’s minds through a restoration of their faith in the wisdom and the power of government! With great respect, your obedient servant. J. M. KEYNES. ^Copyright, 1933, by North American News paper Alliance. Inc.)