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WEATHER. (V. β. Weather Bureau Forecast.) Cloudy and warmer tonight and tomor row, followed by rain tomorrow afternoon or night; lowest temperature tonight about 35 degrees. Temperatures—Highest, 32, at noon today; lowest, 22, at 7:15 a.m. today. Pull report on page B-12. Closing Ν. Y. Markets, Paget 11,12,13 The only evening paper in Washington with the Associated Press News and Wirephoto services. Yesterday's Circulation, 129,353 Some Returns Not Yet Received. vr QQ 101 Entered as second class matter ^ O. uOjiril· post office. Washington, 0. C. WASHINGTON, D. C, SATURDAY, JANUARY 5, 1935-TWENTY-SIX PAGES. φφ (Aft Mean· Associated Press. TWO CENTS. FOUR-BILLION FUNG IS FORECAST FOR ROOSEVELFS NEW EMPLOWM Budget of $8,000,000,00c for Coming Fiscal Year Predicted by Those Close to Administration. CONFEREE SAYS A. A. A. MODIFICATION ONE GOAL Townsend Plan Seen as Threal to More Conservative Program for Age Pensions—$416,000,· COO Nuisance Tax Continuatior Considered Likely. (Copyright, 19H5, by the Associated Press.' President Roosevelt intends to ask Congress, an authoritative source saic today, to provide $4,000,000,000 loi what he terms the "American Plan,' to "quit this business of relief" anc put 3,500,000 unemployed to work. This, as outlined by persons promi· nent on Capitol Hill, would be th< work relief figure for the fiscal yeai beginning next July 1, though it woulc not all be spent if reviving busines; absorbed enough of the jobless. For ordinary Government running expenditures in the year, it was indi cated, about $4,000,000,000 more woulc be required. Thus the budget woulc ue huuuî ^σ,υυυ,υυυ,υυυ. May Get Unused Funds. President Roosevelt outlined to con gressional leaders last night a plan tx expend about $880.000,000 to tide thi relief efforts over the transition periot from the "dole" to "jobs-for-all." Thi: sum is expected to come, at least ii large part, from funds previously ap· propriated. "It is likely," said Senator Robinsor of Arkansas. Democratic leader, aftei the White House conference, "tha funds for relief will be provided b: joint resolution and that certain sum: heretofore appropriated and which i may be found not necessary to expenc may be transferred to that purpose b; aprropriate legislation." In his first message to the Seventy fourth Congress yesterday, the Presi dent enumerated many tasks. Among them were consolidation ol Federal regulation over all forms ol transportation, renewal and clarifica tion of the N. R. Α., strengthening ol crime detection and prevention, aboli tion of "evil features" of utility hold ing companies, improvement in form! and methods of taxation and tapering off of emergency credit activities. Objectives Forecast. Although there was no detailed an nouncement of last night's discussion one conferee who could not be quoted by name listed these things as among those the President is considering 01 definitely has decided to recommend: 1. Old age as well as unemploymenl Insurance. For these, it was said, the Federal Government may expect to bear the initial burden, with contribu tions providing the funds later. The President was said to desire this pro gram to become effective promptly, It was said these forms of social se curity and related matters may be Incorporated in a single piece of legis lation. 2. Continuation and modification ol the agricultural adjustment act. 3. Authorization of a telephone telegraph merger, with the Federal Government possibly fixing rates foi the monopoly. 4. Continuation of $*'16,000,000 in emergency "nuisance" taxes. 5. Making permanent the present $5,000 maximum insurance of bank deposits under the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Would Continue R. F. C. β. Continuation of the lending au thority of the Reconstruction Finance Corp. 7. Enlargement of the resources ol the Home Owners' Loan Corp. Most of last night's conference was devoted to discussion of the work pro gram. President Roosevelt empha sized, It was said, that the budget foi ordinary expenditures would be bal anced and reiterated that the spend ing would not strain the Govern ment credit. In the discussion of old-age pen sions, one conferee held that the Townsend plan—which promises $20( a month to each person over 60— would be a threat. He said million! had signed petitions for it. Some House members, however, re «lied that, with a. more rnn*ervativ< pension plan, they believed thej would block it. President Roosevelt's hope, one lead er asserted, was that In extending thi Home Owners' Loan Corporation ai addition of $500,000.000 in availabli capital would suffice. Sentiment 01 the Hill, however, is considered stroni for a billion dollars more. "Dele" Would Taper Off. As plans now stand, the "dole' would taper off quickly, with the worl relief program beginning in April am taking over completely about next No vember. Besides aiming at employing 3,500, 000 workers, the Government Is seek lng to return 1,500,000 "unemploy ables" to the care of the States. Ac cording to F. E. R. A. estimates, thes (Continued on Page 2, Column β.) Guide for Readers Page. Amusements ... ι Β-12 Churches A-8-9-10 Comics B-8 Features B-5 Finance A-ll-12-13 Lost ajid Found A-7 Radio λ.Α-11 Real Estate B-l-2-3-4 Serial Story A-11 Service Orders A-7 Short Story A-ll Society A-10 Sports B-6-7 4 Crew of Disabled Vessel Cowed to Conserve Water Expedition Heads Sub due 15 Chinese With Guns and Reach Port. By the Associated Press. MANILA. P. I., January 5.—A tale of cowing 15 Chinese with guns In order to preserve a dwindling water I supply aboard a small motor vessel drifting helplessly off the coast of Borneo, was told here today by Law rence T. K. Griswold of Qulncy, Mass. With three other Americans of the Griswold-Harkness scientific expedi tion which he heads, Griswold drifted for five days on the Celebes Sea in the disabled motor vessel Paraoan before reaching land. When the motor broke down four days before Christmas, the boat car ried 26 persons. Including a Filipino crew and 15 Chinese passengers. "We had only 55 gallons of water," Griswold said, "so I rationed a single cup per man the first day and a half a cup thereafter. "The 15 Chinese passengers aboard armed themselves with axes and de manded more water. But we cov.ed them by means of our revolvers. They were quiet after that." Mtm IN OIL TAX ROW State Police Converge op Baton Rouge as Workers Plan Meeting. By the Associated Press. BATON ROUGE, La., January 5.— With Senator Huey P. Long wrath fully defying the Standard Oil Co., state police were reported converging on Baton Rouge today, a£ oil refinery workers of Louisiana prepared to hold 1 a mass meeting to protest against a ! new tax on the industry. Long said in New Orleans last night ι that the Standard Oil Co., which was reported to have discharged 1,000 men yesterday because of the tax, "can go to hell and stay there," unless "they ι want to give Louisiana oil the proper ' treatment." Plan Meeting Tonight, Workers of the local plant, one of ; the largest refineries in the world, invited refinery employes throughout the State to be present at the mass meeting tonight. Groups of employes have also telegraphed President Roosevelt, asking his aid. They charged that Long's dictatorship in the State is depriving them of their constitutional rights. The tax of 5 cents a barrel on the refining of oil, which becomes effective next Wednesday, was credited with causing the Standard Oil Co. to an nounce it would immediately begin discharging employes and curtailing operations. Long Charges Swindle. Long charged the company was dis ; charging workers to "swindle" them of pensions before one of his laws, which would prevent that, becomes operative January 9. Under the law, persons discharged just before their ' pension was due to start, would have to be paid a pension in proportion to the time they were employed. "The Standard Oil Co. has been re fining 100.000 barrels of oil a day," Long said. "Five thousand barrels come from Louisiana and 95,000 from foreign fields. "Our people are crying and begging for a chance to sell their own oil in this State. If it wasn'i for thê Stand ard Oil we'd be producing à great deal of our own oil. because we have a potential production equal to any place. Don't Want Men to Lose Jobs. "We don't want to see 1,500 or 2,000 men lose their jobs in Baton Rouge, but we don't want to have the Stand ard Oil keeping 100,000 men in oil fields out of their employment. "If they got to leave this State— unless we're gonna let 'em continue what they're doing here—they can go to hell and stay there. "They will have no trouble reach ing an agreement with me if they want to give Louisiana oil the proper treatment. They know what I'm talk ing about. There ain't nobody afraid of them." Fire Sweeps Jamestown. JAMESTOWN. Ν., Y., January 5 G45).—Fire did damage officially esti mated at nearly $300,000 last night to four buildings and half a dozen stores in the main business section of Jamestown. IL DUCE AND H OPEN FRIENDSHIP .PAC! DISCUSSIONS Confer Two Hours While Experts of Both Nations Hold Separate Session. FRENCH MINISTER HAS LUNCHEON WITH KING Austrian Independence and Co operation for Peace in Danube Expected to Be Considered. Br the Associated Press. ROME. January 5.—Premier Musso lini and Pierre Laval, foreign minister of Prance, plunged today into the negotiations they hope will promote friendship between their countries and bring assurance of peace to Europe. Laval arrived at the Palazzo Venezia, accompanied by Ambassador Charles de Chambrun, and received the salute of a Fascist guard drawn up before the building. Mussolini greeted the French emis sary with outstretched hands and es corted him to his office, where Laval sat beside a desk piled high with maps and documents bearing on Italo French relations. A tentative draft of the agreement the statesmen expect to approve had been prepared, but it was known that several Important points remained to be discussed. Expert» Go Into Conference. As Laval and H Duce began their conversations, expected to continue into Monday afternoon, three experts who accompanied Laval on his mission here went into conference with Italian officials at the foreign office for dis cussion and drafting of details of the projected agreement. The morning colloquy lasted two to the Quirinal Palace for luncheon with King Emmanuel. During the historic visit, the first a French foreign minister has paid Rome since the World War, it was ex pected the foundations would be laid for a guarantee of Austria's inde pendence, an agreement by which Yugoslavia. Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Italy and Austria undertake to refrain from interference in each other's in ternal affairs, and the co-operation of other European powers in preserv ing peace in the Danublan Basin. Colonial Policy Seen. It also was considered likely that consideration would be given to the conflicting colonial ambitions of the two nations in Africa. The parley began amid expressions of warm friendship between the rep resentatives of the two nations, whose policies in the past frequently have been at odds. An enthusiastic welcome was ac corded the French emissary from the time he crossed the Italian border until he received II Duce's personal greeting and an embrace in the I French manner at the railway station in Rome. Extraordinary precautions were taken to protect the visitors. SCHUSCHNIGG TO TRAVEL, Austrian Chancellor Plans Visit to Paris and London. VIENNA, January 5 (JP).—Dr. Kurt Schuschnlgg, the Austrian chancellor, plans to become another of Europe's traveling statesmen, it was reported today in the Freie Press. The chancellor, it was said, will visit Paris and London upon the con clusion of the Franco-Italian conver sations in Rome, presumably in con nection with the proposals for an in ternational guarantee of Austria's Independence. OIL DEAL REPORTED Tokio Paper Says Mexican Firm to Sell Fields to Japan. TOKIO, January 5 (JF).—'The news paper Asahi said today "a certain oil company in Mexico" has offered to sell some of its fields to the Japan Petroleum Co., the largest oil con cern in Japan. The newspaper said the propoeal may prove of great importance in the development of Japan's oil policy, including the long-standing contro versies with Anglo-American oil companies. Confirmation of the report could not be obtained. / Mrs. Hauptmann Remains Near Husband Despite Trial Recess ! By the Associated Press. s FLEMINGTON, N. J., January 5.— j Of the women principals In the ' Hauptmann trial, only Anna Haupt mann, wife of the man accused of the Lindbergh slaying, stayed on the scene today. For her and Miss Betty Cow. the I nurse who put the Lindbergh baby * into the crib from which he was stolen, the ordeal of taking the wit ■ ness stand was still in prospect. While Anne Lindbergh and Mrs. * Elsie Whately, cook in the Lindberghs' ■ household, testified the dark-eyed ■ Scottish nurse and the pallid Mrs. Hauptmann glanced at each other a few times, but their eyes never met. The two, whose testimony will be an Important factor in Hauptmann's trial for his life, saw each other for the first time In the Hunterdon County court room. Mrs. Haupt mann's appraising eye noted Miss Gow's trim figure, smartly waved hair and neat brown ensemble. That her husband called for her at the bakery where she was working and spent the evening at home will be the testimony of the pale, big framed woman who rite near the defense table, her face deepiy lined. She is Hauptmann'· chief alibi wit ness. From Miss Gow the court will hear that she put the baby to bed, found his crib vacant at 10 o'clock, and * 4 later picked up the baby's thumb guard—a. point the prosecution expects to use In establishing the scene of the slaying. Mrs. Whately, widow of the Lind burgh butler, was heard with close at tention as she testified yesterday that "Except for a very short interval," her husband was in her presence the night of March 1, when the baby vanished. "How long were you and Betty out of the sight and presence of your hus band that night?" %sked Edward J. Reilley, chief of defense counsel. "From about 9 till 10 o'clock. Just an hour," said the cook. She described Miss Oow as "terribly upset" when she found the baby was tone, and that Mrs. Lindbergh. "As I was going around with her said, 'Oh, God.'" Fingering her blue dress, she told how she had given the baby orange Juice, rubbed his chest with an oint ment and prepared a "hot lemon water" for Anne. The four women jurors, who do their own housework and care for children or grandchil dren, watched her with interest as she added: "I was the housekeeper and my hus band drove the car and waited on the table and did everything that was needed around the house." Mrs. Hauptmann retired for the week end recess In the trial to her second-floor bedroom, two blocks from her husband's Jail cell. » ί THE GOBLTXS 'LL GET YOU IE YOU DONT LOOK OUT! PLOT TO SMUGGLE WIS RUED Shipment in California Is Reported Destined for Mexican Revolt. By the Associated Prêts. LOS ANGELES, January 5.—A plot to smuggle arms into Lower California was disclosed by police here today as Federal «gents and officers throughout Southern California sought to intercept five truckloads of arms, machine guns and ammunition re portedly intended for a revolutionary plot in Old Mexico. One suspect, whose name officers refused to disclose, was held here. The shipment of arms and ammuni tion, which, it was discloeed. has teen gathered guardedly In Los Angeles for months, was reported to have started toward the border late last night. Police said the shipment was supposed to contain 300 machine guns and sev eral hundred rifles In addition to large quantities of ammunition. The Mexican Army was reported by the sheriffs' office at El Centro to have doubled its guard fclong the border to prevent the shipment from reaching the alleged plotters. Sheriff George Campbell of Imperial County had a large force of men on the highways in an effort to inter cept the shipment. It was learned the alleged plot has been fostered here by exiled residents of Mexico. SOUGHT IN IMPERIAL VALLEY. Army Doubles Border Guard to Inter cept Shipment. EL CENTRO, Calif., January 5 (£>>.—Five truckloads of rifles, machine guns and ammunition, reported to be en route from Los Angeles to Lower California for use in a revolutionary movement, were sought today by Fed eral agents and deputy sherifTs in Imperial Valley. Federal agents would not comment. Sheriff George Campbell of Imperial County was out of his office on patrol duty. The deputy in charge said reports had been received that the five trucks were heading toward the border and all available officers had been pressed into duty to Intercept the shipment. At Mexicali, it was said, the Army there had doubled its guard along border routes to intercept the ship ment. FISHBOAT RAMMED, SEVEN ARE MISSING Five Members of Crew Saved After Vessel Is Struck by Steamer. By the Associated Press. HAVANA, January 5.—Seven mem bers of the crew of the Cuban fishing smack Julian Bengoecha were missing and five were safe today after the little vessel was rammed and sunk by the steamship Seatrain Havana. The Ashing craft, hit amidships, broke in two and went down in a few minutes. The five survivors were dragged from the water by a boat crew from the larger vessel. Their companions, Including Capt. Jesus Paz. apparently were drowned. Besides Capt. Paz, a Spaniard, the victims were Manuel Gelpl, Pedro Acosta, Carlos Figueroa and Jesus Bernai, Spaniards, and Paul Chaple and Manuel Manjar, Cubans. TROTSKY ACCUSES REDS OF PRESSURE Says Soviet Seeks Ouster From France by Charges of Plotting. By the Associated Press. PARIS, January 5.—Leon Trotsky, exiled Communist leader, hints in an article published today that Soviet authorities are attempting to obtain his expulsion from Prance. The article, printed in La Verlte, a friendly Communist newspaper, as serts charges by Joseph Stalin's sup porters that he was involved in the assassination of Sergei Kiroff are a maneuver "to bring pressure to bear In French authorities." Recent reports that Moscow would request Trotsky's extradition brought a reply from French authorities that they would not oust him. I SETON ASKS DIVORCE —.. t Naturalist Charges Incompatibil ity in Hexican Suit. EL PASO. Tex., January 5 (A3).— Ernest Thompson Seton, naturalist and authority on Indian lore, has filed a suit for divorce in the Juarez Civil Court against Grace Gallatin Seton, charging incompatibility. imwrS· HOPES ARE RAISED D. C. Officials See Aid in Roosevelt Work Relief Program. The administration's work relief program, as outlined by President Roosevelt in his annual message to Congress, served today to revive hopes of District officiais for development of low-coet housing, planned some months ago by Commissioner Georgt E. Allen to provide work for the un employed and decent living quarters for the poor. The President's work program is identical with that proposed by Com missioner Allen for the District—a project that was blocked by Controller General McCarl. who ruled the F. E. R. A. act did not permit the spend ing of Federal relief funds for pur chase of land or construction of houses. When McCarl issued his ruling. Commissioner Allen had plans drawn for erection of a series of small row j houses for families on the District re lief list. In addition, he had a check for $393.000 from the F. E. R. A. to begin the work. Rooaevelt Explains Idea. Despite McCarl's ruling. District officials, in view of Mr. Roosevelt's latest pronouncement, believe the low cost housing project can be carried out with administration support. The President did not discuss the work relief program in detail in his message, but to White House corre spondents later, he explained his idea is to provide jobs for those now on relief rolls. First, he is not going to turn the contemplated work projects over to contractors. The Federal and local governments will carry on the work /1a fka TKie nlan Hi. signed primarily to reduce the cost of the projects and make it possible to distribute the jobs to thoee actually in need. With a renewed hope that Commis sioner Allen's project will now go through, Capt. Howard F. Clark, as sistant engineer commissioner, said preparation of. a proposed works pro gram would be studied immediately. It will be framed to provide steady work for the 15,000 to 17,000 cases which fall into the employable class. 5,000 Unemployable* Here. Elwood Street, director of public welfare in charge of the direct relief operations, estimates there are ap proximately 5.000 unemployable: in Washington, who. under the Presi dent's plan, would be taken off Fed eral aid and cared for entirely out of local resources. Altogether, the 22,000 cases on relief last month rep resent from 75,000 to 80.000 in dividuals, including minors. Three other mejor points as to the effects of the President's plan were (Continued on Page 2, Column 8.) LOS ANGELES STREETS FLOODED BY RAINSTORM Residents Advised to Leave Homes in Sierra Madre Foothills as Water Bises. By the Associated Près». LOS ANGELEâ. January 5.—A rain fall that approached the proportion of a cloudburst early today struck Southern California. In the down town area of Los Angeles, basements of a number of business establish ments were flooded and telephones put out of order temporarily. - In the foothill section of the Sierra Madre Mountains, scene of the death dealing and destructive flood of a year ago New Year day. residents were being warned to leave their homes. The rain was reported heavy back in the mountains. Streets in Montrose and La Cres cent*, the two foothill cities which bore the brunt of last year'· floods, were running rivers. The foothill boulevard between La Crescenta and Tujunga. which is the main thoroughfare connecting the two cities, was blocked with landslide*. • 4 Each Awaits Word to Take Over President's New Jobs Plan. By the Associated Press. The names of Harry L. Hopkins and Harold L. Ickes figured most prominently today in the talk about a possible director of the most gi gantic job of its kind ever under taken by a government—the task of providing work for 3 500.000 persons. As President Roosevelt set his face Sway from the "dole" toward an an nounced jobs-for-all campaign, both assistants were known to have plans • 11 ready for starting the work at the word "go." Speculation centered on whether Hopkins, the relief admin istrator. or Secretary Ickes. the public works chief, would get the job, or whether it might be given to a board in which each would be prominent. . Hopkins has said he has plans for useful work that would put 4.000.000 unemployed in jobs two weeks after he received the order to go ahead. Such projects . include highway con struction. elimination of grade cross ings, rural electrification and housing. All these were mentioned in the President's message and in a report of the National Resources Board which suggested a $100.000.000 000 program that would extend over many years. Ickes. whose agency would be ab sorbed in the new unit, also was ready with plans. Saying he "didn't un derstand anything about" being slated to head the new agency, he added: "We handled the other one, didn't we?" He also expressed an emphatic be lief that Hopkins will "continue to use his great abilities with the Govern ment." Referring to the President's preference for projects giving a maxi mum amount of employment, Ickes said soil erosion control, reforestation, rural electrification and grade cross ing work held highest rank. One P. W. A. official estimated $2, 000.000,000 could be spent on low-cost housing projects, but that it would require about two years to get this in full swing. Among Ickes' public works aides the belief was expressed that he would get the new post. They said that in spending $1.250.000,000 on construc tion projects P. W. A. had perfected an experienced engineering and legal staif. They Indicated they would be ready to absorb the jobless quickly. Some officials indicated the wage scale was Ukely to be lower than the mini mum of 40 cents an hour which has governed 3,000,000,000 man hours on P. W. A. construction projects. There have been protests against the P. W. A. minimum and the 30 cent minimum on Federal work relief projects which recently was abandoned by Hopkins. The President announced he desired a scale above relief payments, but not high enough to interfere with private enterprises, and Ickes followed with the remark that protests against the 40-cent wage had "some foundation." Freed in Traffic Death. SAHNIA, Ontario. January 5 C4>).— John W. Rose of Flint, Mich., yester day was acquitted of a charge of criminal negligence in connection with the death, on the Saria-London highway Christmas eve, of William Gagan, Sarnia township farmer. DEFENSE WILL NAME FOUR AS LINDBERGH KIDNAPERS THURSDAY Reilly Refuses to Reveal Iden tity of Persons He Will Accuse in Court. HAUPTMANN WILL BE FIRST WITNESS CALLED, LAWYER SAYS Attack on Ransom Notes to Be Made. Effort to Place Condon Near Scene Announced. By the Associated Press. NEW YORK, January 5.—Edward J. Reilly, chief defense attorney for Bruno Richard Hauptmann. said today that next Thursday in Flemington, N. J., court he would name four persons and Charge them with the Kidnaping of the Lindbergh baby. Reilly denied published reports that the defense would attempt to prove that the body of the baby found was not that of the infant son of Col. Charles A. Lindbergh. The defense attorney declined to name the four persons he said had engineered the abduction. Asked if his client, Hauptmann. who is on trial for the murder of the baby, would be one of the four he would name. Reilly replied: •'No.." "I felt from the beginning that Hauptmann was innocent or crime. ' Reilly said, then added: "Never mind that." Reilly declined to reply to the question whether Betty Gow, nurse in the Lindbergh home at the time of kidnaping, would be implicated in hia promised disclosure. The defense attorney announced Hauptmann would be the first defense witness, and intimated that the de fense would construct its case on three groups of witnesses. The first of these groups, he indi cated. would be utilized to establish a "complete alibi." the second would be handwriting experts and the third fingerprint experts. Of those he said he would charge with the kidnaping, Reilly asserted flatly : "There will be two women and two or more men." "Can you name them now?" he was asked. "I can't do that," he replied. Reilly said that he bslieved testi mony will be far enough advanced by next Thursday to permit him to bring EDWARD J. REILLY. the names In through examination ana questioning. He refused to disclose more along this line. Questioned concerning the possibility of witnesses placing Dr. Condon in Hopewell. N. J., at the time of the kidnaping, Reilly answered: "We have no witnesses to prove that." Yesterday, the defense announced its intention of doing this. Dr. Condon (Dr. John F. "Jafsie" Condon), Bronx educator, was a self-appointed emissary for Col. Lindbergh in his negotiations with the kidnapers. τ_ a : BOY AND GIRL FOUND DEAD IN PARKED CAR Indiana High School Pupils Be lieved Victim? of Carbon Monoxide Gas. By the Associated Press. RUSHVILLE. Ind., January 5.—The bodies of Walter Dean Cameron. 16, and Rosalind Dishinger, 17. both stu dents at Rushville High School, were found early today in an automobile parked in a covered bridge on a side j road northeast of this city. Authori ties Mid a preliminary examination j indicated the deaths of the boy and girl were caused by carbon monoxide gas. They had been missing since yes terday forenoon. Friends of the boy and girl said they had been keeping company for j several months. The bodies were found by Harold ; Hawk, a milk wagon driver. Authori ties said they apparently had been ! dead several hours. SAAR IS ALARMED BY MASS MEETINGS Sessions of Opposing Forces To morrow May Bring Dis turbances*/ By the Associated Press. 8AARBRUECKEN, Saar Basin Ter ritory, January 5.—The possibility that opposing mass meetings planned for tomorrow may result in disturb ances aroused concern in some quar ters today as the time for the Saar's plebiscite draws near. The meetings will be held by Hit lerite supporters and by those who favor the continued administration of the territory by the League of Na tions. The gatherings will be held In the same community, and precau tions will be taken to prevent the opposing groups from becoming en tangled with one another. Questioned again concerning Miss Gov, Reilly said he would quiz her about her whole life when «he ls placed on the witness stand. "Of course, she was on more or less friendly terms with one Red Johnson who was around Englewood," Reilly said. "Ls he (Johnson) a suspect?" he was asked "Well," Reilly replied, "he was ex amined at the time of the crime.'1 "Do you want to see him?" "No—not at all." "Then how does the friendship im plicate Betty Gow?" Reilly declined to answer this query and went on to say that Miss Gow "showed no hysteria, crying or the usual symptoms a woman would nor mally show when a child to which she was closely attached is stolen." "She was cold," Reilly said. Trying to Build Up Case. Reilly said that he had not yet learned much about Miss Gow's past life, but that there was nothing de rogatory in what information he al ready had gathered. "I am trying to build up a circum stantial case that others close to the baby perpetrated the crime," the at torney declared. "How do you feel about Haupt mann," Reilly was asked. "I think he'll get off," the attorney retorted. "I have felt from the very begin ning there was more than one person in this crime. Yet he is named exclu sively in that indictment, which not only charges he kidnaped the child alone, but that he killed the child alrtnp "All the surrounding circumstances indicate that Col. Lindbergh and his wife were imposed upon by some «ne In the household. "Yesterday it was brought out in the testimony that the baby was un accustomed to strangers and that no one had access to the child except those connected with the household." Reilly called Lindbergh "a perfect witness for the defense " He added that the evidence was such to indi- ι 1 rate that both Col. and Mrs. Lind bergh would be recalled to the wit ness stand. Attack Ransom Notes. The defense is mapping its plans for an attack on the ransom notes, it was learned today. It also shaped its plans around the announced intention to bring two wit nesses into court to testify that "Jafsie" was in the vicinity of the Lindbergh home at Hopewell, N. J., on the day the baby was stolen from its crib. Reilly yesterday asked Mrs. Elsie Whately, widow of the Lindbergh butler, this question: "Didn't your husband and you know Dr. Condon In 1931 in New Rochelle?" Mrs. Whately answered emphatic ally "No, we did not." Hints Future Course. Reilly said, at the close of court, his question was a "hint as to what the future holds." The defense has asserted the kid naping was done, not by Hauptmann, but by "five distinct persons" and that the crime was planned in the Lindbergh home unknown to the family. Reilly said he was eager to question Betty Gow, who will take the stand in Flemington Monday. "Shell tell the truth, I'm sure." he said, "and explain a great number of things." Reilly took advantage of the weele end recess in the trial to call a con ference of handwriting experts in hi· (Continued oa Page 3, Column ij 4 Alfonso, Infanta and Fianee Fail to See Pope as Planned By the Associated Press. VATICAN CITY. January 5.—Great mystery today surrounded the failure of former King Alfonso of Spain, his daughter, the Infanta Beatrix, and her fiance, Prince Alessandro of Tor lonla, to appear for an appointed au dience with the Pope. The audience was scheduled for last night. A colorful royal reception had been prepared for the visitors. No ble, Swiss and Palatine Guards were drawn up in resplendent array, while Vatican attendants were in readiness. All waited In vain, for the royal party didn't appear. Inquiries at the Vatican as to why Alfonso, his daughter and her be trothed had failed to show up brought the response that It was "for very private reasons," and prelates indi cated they were forbidden to discuss the matter at all. Neither former King Alfonso nor i members of the Torlonia family could be reached for comment, and a ru mor grew that the engagement had been broken. This, however, proved unfounded, since preparations for the wedding reception were being con tinued today. PLAN HONEYMOON IN U. S. Newlywed» Expect to Visit Bride groom's Mother. PARIS, January 5 G4>).—The In fanta Beatriz, daughter of the former King of Spain, and Prince Alessan dro of Torlonia are planning an Amer ican honeymoon following their sched uled marriage In Rome January 14. After a visit to London the newly weds expect to sail for New York, it was revealed here today, to visit the bridegroom's American mother, who is the former Elsie Moore of Green wich, Conn., and New York. *