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♦ Sports News | »' |~Features and Classified | : rate oj Redskins Against Giants Appears Squarely Up to Baugh -<! 4 Needs Nine More Completed Passes to Beat Record Set by Herber. By JOHN LARDNER. NEW YORK, Dec. 3 —The fate of George Preston Marshall and his Washington Redskins, candidates for the national professional football championship, will be pretty squarely up to Samuel Baugh this Sabbath, when the Red skins lock with the Giants for the right to represent the East against the Bears of Chicago. If the Baugh breaks, the Redskins will fall, and down will come Wash ington, laundry and all. That is how the Poet Keats felt about it, and the Poet Keats never spoke a truer word. Samuel, the slinging Texan, is not the first man to make the world pass conscious. There were others before him. There were Gus Dorais and Elmer Ohphant and George Gipp and Benny Friedman and Barry Wood, and there was Casanova, who set an 18th century record for passes, and there was Leonidas, who threw up the first pass defense at Thermopylae. * Nor is Samuel the whole Redskin ball club. There is a great running * back named Cliff Battles on the team, and a fine, fast, hard-charging line, a doe-footed catcher named Charley Malone, and a great, general, blocker and field goal kicker in Riley Smith, and a complete exemption from laun dry bills, which is the contribution of the owner, Mr. Marshall, and not the least of the club's assets. Sam Comes Through in Clutch. DUT this Baugh has a way of dominating critical ball games. When his college mob. the Texas Christians, needed help, it was always slinging Samuel who came through in the clutch. Then there was the charity game last September between the college all-stars and the Green Bay Packers, pro champions of 1936. Baugh was picked for the all-star team while your correspondent was down in Texas hunting snails with gun and camera. At that time Mr. J. Curtis Sanford, president of the cot ton bowl and a bloodhound for oil in his spare time, made a spacious state ment. “Sammy Baugh will be the out standing star of that game,’’ said Mr. Sanford. “No, No,” said your correspondent tolerantly. “Yes, yes, yes.” barked Mr. Sanford, striking oil in his excitement. .“Yesv yes. yes.” “Have you never heard of a Green Bay Packer named Arnie Herber, the best passer in pro football?” “Never mind him,” said Mr. San ford. “Pay no attention to him. You do not know what passing is until you have seen Samuel Baugh throw the ball." Mr. Sanford threw a couple of cantaloupes at a fireplug to illustrate his point, and added: “What's more. I will bet you a hat that I am right.” Well, I will not go into the mournful details of that there Holocaust, where in Slinging Samuel dominated the action from start to finish and was, beyond all doubt, the outstanding star of the dog fight. I owe Mr. Sanford, the oil-prober, a hat, and the grue some part of it is that when a Texan says “hat” he means a three-family article holding 5 gallons and complete with radio, refrigerator and two-car garage. I will pay him his ill-gotten millinery as soon as I raise the funds, which may be a year from next Michaelmas. Laundry Debate Lures Baugh. CHORTLY after Samuel Baugh perpetrated this piece of treachery and become the leading hand-stitched Benedict Arnold of his day and age, he was approached by George Preston Marshall, the laundry tycoon. Mr, Marshall’s tactics when stalking a football player are highly unusul. Wearing rubber-soled shoes and a coon-skin cap, he baits his trap with reduced laundry prices. “Where else can you get a shirt cleaned for 4 cents, collar included?” he asks the victim. “With the Giants? With the Eagles? With the Lions? With the bears? One thousand (1,000) times no!” By the time Mr. Marshall had come to the matter of cotton undershirts Samuel Baugh was his, body and soul. I believe there was also a cash consideration of $7,500 for a season’s work. At any rate, Mr. Baugh is now a full-fledged Redskin, which has nothing to do with the amount of starch Mr. Marshall puts in those shirts. By a singular chance, Samuel will be after a new professional football record when he moves against the Giants Sunday, and that is a record now held by the same Amie Herber of Green Bay, whom your correspond ent backed with a hat last Septem ber. Herber’s all-time mark is 77 completed passes in a season, estab lished in 1936. Baugh up to date has completed 69. Eight completions against the Giants will tie the record and nine will fracture it. The way Samuel throws that ball around, especially when Washington is gunning for a key victory, nine completed passes will not be an unusual afternoon's work. Sam has thrown X56 passes in all tills season and his completions were good for a total gain of 974 yards. Also his kicking has been strong and effective and his running hard to stop. The more the rest of the Na tional League clubs see of this un regimented Texan the less they like him, and that is their privilege, sure enough. To win the Eastern title and meet the Bears in the play-off at Chicago, the Redskins must beat the Giants. A tie or a Giant win will freeze them cut. (Oocrrlfht. 1937, by the North American Newspaper Alliance, las.) 9 Getting Ready for Task of “Scalping” Redskins in Big Game Sunday Dale Burnett 0/ the New York Giants running off tackle in a practice session as the New Yorkers prime to meet the Washington team in the Eastern title battle at the Polo Grounds. IV. .--—-- I I "POPPfN OFF'JftarSIS® The Round Man Goes to Town. opeciai uispatcn to me star. MILWAUKEE, Dec. 3.—The little round man puffed solemnly on his big black cigar as the newspaper men in room 1530 listened to the announcement of a player trade between the White Sox and the Tigers. After the writing boys scurried away, jotting notes and ordering wires to be set up, the man behind the cigar walked down to the lobby to buy a paper. Joe Cronin bore down on him. “You want to see me, Joe?” asked James Joseph Dykes. “No,” answered Cronin, “I just want to look at you. If I wasn't so bash ful I'd ask you to let me touch you.” You see. James Jcteph Dykes is becoming to be a trading figure. It used to be that Clark Griffith was adjudged the toughest in the baseball industry. But that was before Dvlres ramp a Inner - Jimmy is the new champion, with practically all precincts heard from. As far as the more expert observers can see, Dykes made his White Sox into honest-to goodness pennant threats in dealing with the Tigers. He filled the open space at third base with Marvin Owen, one of the best defensive third sackers in the business and a timely, if not heavy, hitter. He improved his outfield with the acquisition of Gerald Walker and he grabbed one of the most promising young catchers in the American League in Mike Tresh. In exchange he gave to Detroit Pitcher Vernon Kennedy, Infielder Tony Piet and Outfielder Dixie Walker. According to a ghastly majority of baseball men, the only thing even about the trade was the number of players involved . . . three for three. Harris Concedes Sox an Edge. gUCKY HARRIS is one who felt obligated to salaam in the presence of Dykes. “Chicago’s got so many pitchers that Dykes doesn’t need Ken nedy.” said Bucky.. “Piet never was important and in swapping Dixie Walker for Gerald Walker he got a 50 per cent better outfielder and hitter. Chicago wound up with a fine third baseman and a catcher, who probably will be ready for regular duty when Luke Sewell is ready to quit.” Overnight the White Sox have be come flag threats. Dykes has two fine starting pitchers in Monty Stratton and Johnny Whitehead, and two promising youngsters in Bill Cox from St. Paul and John Rlgney. In addi tion, tlj.ere are Thornton Lee, Bill Dietricli, Ted Lyons and Clint Brown, valuable veterans. If Rignrv and Cox between them can take up the slack that may be caused by Kennedy’s de parture, the Sox may be very, very tough to beat. Dykes and Lou Comiskey have rid den to buying, selling and trading glory in the few fruitful years they have spent together. In 1932 Comiskey bought A1 Simmons, Dykes and Mule Haas from Philadelphia for $100,000. What he really got was two outfielders, a fine drawing card, a third baseman and one of the best managers in the league for exactly $25,000. All for $25,000. rJ'HE trick wasn’t done with mirrors. Simmons packed in crowds at Chicago for three years, in spite of his disappointing performances. Haas played a lot of outfield for the Sox and Dykes was no bum on third base. Then Dykes was made manager. One of Jimmy's early acts was to sell Simmons to Pal Mickey Cochrane for a cool $75,000. That was getting out from under a heavy investment. The Sox got three years of service out of one of the most famous outfielders in history and still had Manager Dykes and a good utility player in Haas. And all for $25 000! Prior to the sale of Simmons to De troit for $75,000, which happened only a year before Detroit resold A1 to Washington for $7,500, Dykes made his first deal as manager of the Sox. This was destined to be the only deal on which he lost. He traded Red Kress to the Nats in exchange for one Bob Boken. You never hear of Boken any more. Kress, at least, is bouncing from the minors back into the majors. At least, he is (xiuncing into the Browns' fold. Lost Only One Joust. 'J'HAT one setback must have roused the ire of Mrs. Dykes’ boy, James Joseph. Anyway, he hasn’t lost on a deal since. He obtained one of the best catchers in baseball, Sewell, for a pal try $6,000. He traded one Les Tietje for Sugar Cain and won. He bought Dietrich for the waiver price and loves to be reminded of it. He got Dixie Walker for $7,500 and practically traded him for Gerald Walker, whose price tag at the moment must be in the neighborhood of $80,000. He grabbed Kennedy when the A’s failed to exercise their option on the big right-hander and all Vernon did was to win 21 games in 1936 and bring Owen in trade yesterday. He got the second ranking relief pitcher in the league for $7,500. Clint Brown, I mean. Mike Kreevich he bought from a minor league club and last year he came to grips with the legendary Grif fith, the Old Pox, for the first time. In a three-cornered deal also involv ing Cleveland, the Nats sent Earl Whitehill to Cleveland, which dis patched Lefty Lee to Chicago. To Washington the little round man sent Jack Salveson. You never hear of Salveson now, either. He did not sur vive spring training. But Lee ... he /o.a D/^nnTwro /snn n_n « v Navy’s Captain LUCIEN.C. POWELL, Arkansas lad, who was regu lar right end during the past season, will lead the 1938 team and strive to get re venge on Army. —Harris & Ewing Photo. RICE IS GIVEN NOD OVER METHODISTS Trojans, Tulsa, Vols, Dukes, Miami and Florida Are Other Choices. By the Associated Press. NEW YORK, Dec. 3—Call this the swan-song of an ugly duckling or the farewell fol de-rol of a gridiron guesser, about to quit the eight-ball for com modius winter quarters among the mothballs. To make a short story even shorter, prospects for this week's slender schedule appear about as follows: Southern Methodist-Rice: This de termines the Southwest Conference crown and a Cotton Bowl opponent for Whizzer White and his University of Colorado Buddies. S. ,M. U.’s Mus tangs have been picking up tremen dous momentum in the stretch but this ballot goes to Rice in the belief that Ernie Laln’s pitching arm has lost none of its power or cunning. Trojans Strong Favorites. OOUTHERN CALIFORNIA-U. C. U. A: Maybe the Trojans still will be train-sick after that jaunt to South Bend, but Southern California must be given a big edge over U. C, L. A., one of the biggest disappointments of the year. Tulsa-Manhattan: The New York ers’ biggest victories this year have been over passing teams—Detroit and Michigan State, for instance. Some how or other this corner is willing to let that fact be forgotten long enough to cast an uncertain vote for Tulsa. Tennessee - Mississippi: Tennessee must get the nod. Mississippi State-Duquesne: Hard to figure in view of State's triumph over Mississippi and Duquesne's shocking upset of Detroit. Out of the hat, Duquesne. luwiui uaiuc • ruuicr. MIAMI-SOUTH CAROLINA: Miami beat Catholic, Catholic beat South-Carolina, therefore Miami will beat South Carolina. Or will it? That gets us nowhere, so, in the midst of a dizzy tailspin, Miami. Florida-Kentucky: Probably close. Florida. San Francisco-Texas A. & M.: Coast teams haven’t been having any luck With the Southwest this season. Texas A. & M. Arizona-Oregon: Looks close enough to justify a flier on Arizona. Centenary-Louisiana Tech: Cen tenary. Loyola (Los Angeles)-Gonzaga: The coin says Loyola. P. S.: Georgia to beat Miami on De cember 10. PIRATES RELEASE FOUR Biggs, Preibisch, Richmond and Coletti Go to Knoxville. PITTSBURGH, Dec. 3 (jP).—The Pittsburgh Pirates have announced to day the release under option of four players to the Knoxville club of the Southern Association. They are Inflelder Charles Biggs and Outfielder Melvin Preibisch, Pirate recruits, who played for Savan nah in the South Atlantic League last season: Second Baseman Proctor Richmond, formerly with Wilkes Barre, in the New York-Pennsylvanla League, and Eugene Coletti, first base man last season for Hutchinson, in the Western Association. The Pirates previously had released three players to Knoxville, one of six club6 with which they have working agreements for the 1938 season. Leave Football Rules Alone, General Opinion of Coaches, Queried Regarding Changes Associated Press Sports Writer. NEW YORK, Dec. 3.—Despite agitation for three specific rules changes designed to help the offense in football, a na tion-wide poll of college coaches by the Associated Press today revealed a strong general desire to "leave well enough alone.” This may help simplify the task of the National Collegiate A. A. Rules Committee, Which goes into its an nual huddle on New Year’s Day at Edgewater Park, Miss. This session, which is being held two months earlier than usual, will follow the annual N. C. A. A. convention 1ft New Orleans. Subject to various reservations, such as those proposed by Notre Dame’s Elmer Layden and Nebraska's Biff Jones, a "no-tinkering” policy with regard to the rules is advocated by a majority of head coaches. The list favoring conservative approach to any consideration of rules changes in cludes Jock Sutherland of Pittsburgh, Dick Harlow of Harvard. Bill Kern of Carnegie, Hank Hardwick of Navy, Ray Morrison of Vanderbilt, Wallace Wade of Duke, Stub Allison of Cali fornia and Harry Kipke of Michigan. Warner Would Check Defense. 'T'HE veteran Glen (Pop) Warner of Temple heads the coaching wing which feels something drastic should be done to keep the defense, with its five-man line as a prime example, from getting the upper hand on the gridiron. The three changes most discussed, as likely to aid the offense, comprise (1) return of the goal posts to the goal line, (2) legalizing forward passing from any spot behind the scrimmage line and (3) forcing the defense to keep a definite number of players on the scrimmage line, preferably six. Prank Thomas, coach of Alabama's Rose Bowl-bound team, is particularly strong in support of limiting defense formations. "It is impossible to teach college boys blocking assignments for all the various defense set-ups now being played, with the limited time we have for practice,” says Thomas. Columbia's Lou Little, who has headed the coaches' own Rules Com mittee for several years, agrees with Thomas and Warner on a proposal to compel the defense to keep a def inite number of men on the line of scrimmage. The only alternative, in Little’s opinion, is to do away with the huddle system of calling signals. Lakden chimes into the offense-de fense controversy with the suggestion that "if sentiment exists that the of fense is overshadowed by the defense,” restrictions on the shift (the full-sec ond stop after the shift is made) be eliminated. Various Changes Urged. jJEYOND these proposals, the sug gested changes are aimed at par ticular portions of the game. Layden would establish a zone simi lar to that now applying to clipping, beyond which a ball carrier may get up and run after his knee touches the ground, and would lift the re oiijiiuviia vjii i uunuig wjui a iuni uicu ball. William P. (Hiker) Joy of Canisius would increase the clipping penalty from 15 to 25 yards, and expel the player committing the foul. Paul (Dizzy) McLeod of Furman supports the latter half of that suggestion, made on the grounds that a player who has been clipped usually is un able to continue in the game. Marchie Schwartz of Creighton, as a safety measure/ would abolish the spectacular crowd-pleasing kick-off, and, together with William (Doc) Newton of North Carolina State, would seek better protection for the passer. Newton likes the pro rule of moving the ball in from the sidelines 15 yards, rather than 10. Jim Crow ley of Fordham would like legislation against the "forward fumble,” putting the ball in play at the spot where the offense fumbles, rather than where it recovers. Jones would penalize the offense at the spot of the foul rather than of the previous down when an attempted down-field lateral is thrown forward. All of the coaches probably would join Layden, who wishes “they might legislate a second touchdown for us, so I will not age so rapidly because of our one-touchdown offense.” Top National Honor, Great Win Marks Are Held by Schools of State. By the Associated Press. HILADKI .PHIA, Dec. 3.—Penn sylvania’s collegiate football representatives more than up held the Keystone State’s gridiron repuation during the 1937 season. Consider these achievements: Six of the eleven undefeated teams of the East represented Pennsylvania institutions. Pittsburgh won general recognition as the outstanding team in the country. Three teams led the way in de fensive play. Lafayette and Albright permitted the opposition only six points and Villanova only seven. Thirty-seven Pennsylvania teams turned in 68 victories against 47 de feats and 11 ties for an average of .591 in competition with out-of-State opponents. Lafayette boasted the only unde feated and untied season in the State with eight victories in as many games, but Pittsburgh, Villanova, Dickinson and Albright had only a single tie contest and Lock Haven State Teach ers’ College two ties to mar otherwise perfect records. Pitt won nine games, Villanova eight, Dickinson and Al bright seven each and Lock Haven six. VIRGINIA STANDS PAT. RICHMOND, Vs., Dec. 3 (A*).—With the annual meeting of the Southern Conference here just a week away, there was no Indication that the Uni versity of Virginia, a charter member, would reconsider its resignation from that group. Anti-Nazis Cutting Down Schmeling-Thomas Receipts High School Teams Mark Of! Snow-Covered Grid With Coal Dust—Fordham Behind “Eight Bowl.” oy £UU1C 0K.1ETZ. Associated Press Sports Writer. NEW YORK, Dec. 3.—Man hattan merry-go-round— that’s the six-day bike race ... you have to get up early in the. morning to outsmart Jimmy Dykes of the White Sox in a baseball deal . . . Max Schmel ing offered $25 for a sprint at the bite race the other night, and, quite appropriately, one of the German stars went out and won it. By the way, looks as though Maxie’s fight with Harry Thomas, December 13, may be a financial fiopperoo. . . . The anti-Nazi boy cott is on in full blast here . . . A dbwd of 2,000 turned out to see Gene Sarazen play an exhibi tion match in Japan a week or so ago. . , . If you know any totter football stories than this, be sure to send ’em along ... Two high school teams in the coal mining area of Harlan, Ky., were all set for the final game . . . When the big day arrived, the field was cov ered with snow . . . How did they mark off the gridiron? . . . You guessed it, with coal dust . . . Best cr%ck of the week was by the Southern scribe who said, ’’Well, Fordham wound up behind the eight bowl” ... it now de velops BUI Terry will not let Blondy Ryan go to Buffalo to manage the Blsons and Milwaukee hears Steve O’Neill, one of the many Cleveland ex’s, wUl get the job. Jimmy Bronson, the educated fight manager, dislocated a hip and is limping around West Forty-ninth street on a eane . Jimmy Kelly, the night spot king, is amusing himself offering $35 and $50 sprint prises at the bike race these nights . . . Reports of Sonja Henie’s in jury are exaggerated, and she’ll start her tour on scheduled time. Ray Morrison, Vanderbilt coach, went down to see the Southern Method ist-Texas Christian game ... His son, Ray, Jr., does the quarterbacking for S. M. U. . . . The Mustangs got a first down on the 9-yard line, but no points . . . "What did you think of the selec tion of plays on the goal line?’* Jere Hayes of the Dallas Times Herald asked Morrison, sr. . . . "Well, it's second guessing, of course, but I’d have called them differently, I think.” The Dodgers, who gave Business Manager John Gorman the air, * are reported dickering with Jim Tierney, former secretary of the Giants, and Jimmy Hamilton, gen eral manager of the Nashville Vols. . , . Oscar Weed, Mississippi State guard (and the most underrated player in the league in this book) is the only Southeastern Confer ence player to wear a soup strainer ... He sports one of the Clark Gable type. Boxing came back to the corn country with a bang when John Henry Lewis and Salvatore Rug glrello packed in 7,000 customers at Minneapolis ... Name of Jim Ben ton, Arkansas end, may not appear on any all-Americas, but he rates something . . . Only four gains were made around his end aU season, and. on top of that, he set a Southwest Conference record for yardage gained on passes. ^ V ^_*_ v_^ Redskins, Giants Bolstering Confidence With “Hunches” As They Await Crucial Game BJ BILL OISHEb, jr„ BUff Correspondent ot'Tne Star. RYE, N. Y„ Dec. 3.—There are more hunches being heard around this swanky West chester Country Club today regarding the outcome of Sunday’s Etedskins-Olants game than there Is rye In Rye. Each side, It seems, has Its own “Irrefutable” reasons why Its favorites cannot be defeated. Space doesn't permit an itemized list of even half of them, but the two omens considered luckiest by the Washington and New York contingents are these: Ray Flaherty never has failed to be involved in a play-off between the Eastern and Western champions lince the National Football League Instituted the post-season game for the loop title in 1933. Ray was as sistant coach of the Giants in 1933, ’34 and ’35, and each year the New Workers won the sectional title. Last year was Flaherty’s first as the Red skin coach and the Indians immedi ately took the title from his old team. As further comfort to Washington fans, Ray has promised to wear his “lucky” brown suit which he has worn on three occasions this season when his team won important games—the first game with the Giants at Griffith Stadium in September, the first Pitts burgh game when his team snapped out of a bad slump, and the Green Bay game last Sunday. We Hope It'll “Sait” This Sunday. J^EW YORKERS, however, are bank ing on Owner Tim Mara’s asser tion that the date of December 5— which will be the date next Sunday— is a lucky day in Giant football history. It was on that same .date, in 1925, that the appearance Of Red Grange with the Chicago Bears attracted 72, 000 to a game in New York and it is that game that Giant officials credit with the start of professional foot ball’s success here. May December 5, 1937, mark the end of the current season here. GianU Too Cocky? AVER confidence may win for the Redskins, or rather, lose for the Giants. According to Mrs. Chuck Bond, pretty wife of the good-looking re serve tackle of the Skins who is stopping at the same New York hotel in which the Giants live, the Mara men are serious in their preparations for the game—only “the game” is the anticipated one with the Chicago Bears on December 12. That, of course, will pit the Western champions against the winner of Sunday’s game at the Polo Grounds, or the Giants, in case of a tie. Despite contrary statements in the press—from their press agent—the Giants really are planning to take the Redskins in stride. The Redskins, however, are planning to take the Giants for a ride. Leemans Best, or Pest? 'T'HE college gridder who drew more applause than any other in Dis trict history may be responsible for the most moans from Washingtonians coming here for the game. Because Redskin coaches openly admitted to day that they feared Tuffy Leemans, George Washington’s “team” from 1933 through 1935, more than any other Giant back. Danowski is New York’s best passer; Les Corzine, their best blocker, usually is good for 2 or 3 yards whenever called upon to carry the ball, but Leemans is con sidered the best. Here’s hoping the best doesn’t turn into a pest for the Redskins. In cidentally, one description of a Giant practice told of the players all being dressed in their old college uniforms and cited Leemans as outstanding because G. W.’s canary yellow. They should have seen the star-spangled Colonials. f?RNY PINCKERT, the Skins’ best blocking back, received notifica tion today that he had been selected for Southern California’s all-time team of greats. Pinckert will be the only one of the eleven selected who will be unable to be present at the presen tation ceremonies in Los Angeles to night. But Emy has business in New York, when he will try to establish himself as another all-time great in the 9Pinion of Washington fandom. All-Time Greats Play. gPEAKING of all-time greats, New York fans will see on Sunday what Washingtonians have seen on six occasions this year: A team with 3 of the 11 players selected on the all-time Rose Bowl team announced last year. Capt. Turk Edwards, who played with Washington State in the late 20s; Pinckert, the Trojan Trump, and Dixie Howell of Alabama's 1936 Rose Bowl champion, are the three Red skins who hold as high a distinction as may befall any gridder. 'J'HE ticket sale here is as bad or good as it was in Washington last week for the Green Bay game. Agencies this morning announced that the only sideline seats left were down at the goal lines, although plenty of end-zone seats remained. And the cheapest reserved seat is $2.20, com pared to the $1.65 asked by George Marshall in Washington. New York papers have been widely advertising the fact that the game is going over big in Washington where every ticket which has been sent down from Giant offices here has been sold. But it has hastened to assure New Yorkers that officials were holding back tickets for their own fans. PITT STARS WANT TRIP Goldberg, Souchak, Matisi Look to Coast’s East-West Game. SAN FRANCISCO, Dec. 3 _ Several of those Pittsburgh football players who voted against a Rose Bow-1 trip are anxious to play in the Shrine’s annual East-West game here New Year Day. William Coffman, managing direc tor of the game, said today that in formation came from his Eastern rep resentatives. He added that Fullback Marshall Goldberg. End Prank Sou chak and Tackle Tony Matisi of the Panthers are almost certain to receive bids. Redskins Imbued With Campus Pep By a Staff Correspondent of The Star RYE:, N. Y., Dec. 3.—The old college spirit may be very much in evidence if the Redskins beat the Giants here Sunday, thus retaining their Eastern champion , ship of the National Football League. According to some of the thou sands coming up for the game, Washingtonians are planning to tear up the Polo Grounds goal posts, a la collegiate, in event of a Redskin victory. But even better, the Redskins themselves will revert to college tactics if they win. For departing from professional ante-game tac tics, the Skins are planning to gather in a circle and give the Giants a cheer at the end of the game. Rumors that it would be a Bronx cheer oould not be confirmed. 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