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vavMVPPmpppppppflPWPI quire me to talk to you of your own interests. If England were to be re duced in this war, or another which would be sure to follow from it, if this war were inconclusive, to the position of a small country like Hol land, then, however far across the salt water your country may lie, the burden which we are bearing now would fall on to your shoulders. "I do not mean by that that Ger many would attack you, or that if you were attacked you would need to fear the result so far as the United States was concerned. The Monroe doctrine, however, carries you very far, in South as well as North.Amer ica, and is it likely that victorious German militarism, which would then have shattered France irretrievably, have conquered Belgium and have broken forever the power of Eng land, would allow itself to be per manently cut off from all hopes of that oversea expansion and develop ment with which South America alone can supply it? "Now the impact is on us. Our blood which flows in your veins should lead you to expect that we shall be stubborn enough to bear that impact. But if we go down and are swept in ruin into the past, you are the next in line. "This war is4 for us a war of honor, of respect for obligations into which we have entered and of loyalty to ward friends in desperate need. But now that it has begun, it has become a war of self -preservation. The Brit ish democracy, with its limited mon archy, its ancient parliament, its ar dent social and philanthropic dreams, is engaged for good or for ill in dead ly grapple with the formidable might of Prussian autocratic rule. "It is our system of civilization and government against theirs. It is our life or theirs. "We are conscious of the greatness of the times. We recognize the con sequence and proportion of events. We feel that, however inadequate we may be, however unexpected the or deal may be, we are under the eye of history. "And the issue being joined, Eng land must go forward to the very end." While I was speaking to Mr. Churchill, a telegram came in from Belgium announcing the total de- (J struction of the town of Louvain as an act of military execution. Handing it to me, he said: "What further proof is needed of the cause at issue? Tell that to your American fellow countrymen. "You know," he added, "I am half American myself." New York, Aug. 29. Declaring that the statement of Winston Churchill, first lord of the British ad miralty, was based on a wrong prem ise and calling it merely another ef fort to deceive the American people, Count Von Bernstorff, the German ambassador to the United States, to day gave the United Press the follow ing reply to Churchill: "Mr. Churchill, who is largely re sponsible for the war and who is known to have proposed an attack on the German fleet before the war had begun, is certainly not a fair author ity in the case. Mr. Churchill's appeal to the American people is based on the entirely wrong assumption of a separation between the emperor and the so-called military aristocracy of Germany on the one hand, and the German people on the other. "This assumption is all wrong. It is proved so by the fact that the German socialist democrats voted the credits in parliament for war and the leader of the German socialist demo crats arose in parliament and said: " 'We have always" been against war, but since our country has been attacked by the worst autocrat the world knows, we stand with one mind with all the rest of the German peo ple.' "In striking contrast to this atti tude of the German socialists, the in- i dependent labor leader of England,