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The first night of Hiss Anthony's lea ture my attention was entirely taken up with watching the speaker, for, be it known, tins first, last and only time I ever heard a woman speak in public was in the "meetin'-house," langsyne, when Aunt Tribulation Fear-thc-Lord arose and through her tears, nose and hand krehief tokl her "experience." So the first evening I had eyea and ears only for Miss A. Tiie following evening I gave her my ears, but managed to bestow mj eyes furtively upon her audience. What I took most interest in observing was the countenances of the gentlemen, wlro had lain aside that evening their Important business matters and come to Miss Aiitliony's lecture like Iambi to the daughter. That my attention should have been bestowed almost exclusively upon the gentlemen may not seem nat ural; bHt when I tell you that I had never yet beheld a set of faces so mobile and expressive, so beaming, smiling himI scowling, with all the variable and intense emotions of wrought-up man hood, you will not wonder. The women were as coolly radiant as though the Suttee had never been per formed. They were as serene and un ruffled as a Quaker's night-gown. It was not their funeral. But the men ! Here sat one along-side of his wife. Site had towed him in. He was a very reluctant-looking man. It seemed as though if it had not been for the name of it he would rather have stayed at Itoine. lie was continually shifting Ills position, meanwhile casting glances at lite wife to see the effect of everything upon her. She looked as happy as a cat with her first kitten. I have not yet reached that point where I take delight in human suffering (now, if the typos print those two last words woman smffrage, I might as well give up). This man's apparent discomfiture mado me unhappy, and I wanted to speak in a voice like Mrs. "Wluslow's syrup and say, "You shall not be hurt ed," for I could fancy I saw him dodg ing imaginary blows; he seemed mo mentarily expecting that Miss Anthony i was going to box Ids cars. A phlegmatic old gentleman sal be- hind me, with his chin resting upon his breast and his eyes closed. IR play was to be oblivious when Miss Anthony made a point. But cats aud old gentle men are not always asleep when their eyes are elosed. Further on sat a great, benevolent looking fellow, with his head thrown baek and his mouth open, staring as never man stared before. This individ ual interested me, and calling up all my physiognomical and psychological facul- ties. I efiwved to reud his thought. He board the truth sublime, as trutlt ever ; is; he knew it was the truth and recog nised it as such, but behind him sat a set of eynieal old stoics of the old school, and to-morrow he must go out witli them ami canvass and discuss Miss Authony's lecture, and they will ask him what he thinks of such sophistry as M'att and " he say that what he heard was to him logical, forcible and conclusive? aud that he believed that glorious woman to lie devoted to the true interests of men and women, aud laboring to institute a reform which would make men nobler and more successful, women happier ami consequently better, and children nearer in the image of Him whose am bassador is fearless and denial Truth? Will lie have the courage to say this to tltoee wIhj scoff? Naj, nay. I read it on his fine, emotional face and weak in tellect ; but when he meets them in sol emn conclave on the street corner he will muster the courage to say if he dies for it, "She is a fine figure of a woman." Another style sat bolt upright, never moving a muscle of his body, contenting himeelf witli blinking slowly and mild ly at a neighboring chignon as much as to sav: "Can these things be and not overcome us?" etc Considering the confliet that must have been going on in his mind I felt that this behavior was verv decorous and suldued. But there were a goodly number of lmnpv men there men who seemed jolly, whole-souled and willing to ac cept the truth. Before me sat two of these sensible men, and their attention and evident satisfaction and appreciation won me; ami when the lecture was ended said one of them, with a good-natured laugh: "Let's give her a dollar and tell her to send that book," referring to a valuable pamphlet which Miss Anthony was en deavoring to circulate, and he gave it, and I made a note of it as I passed out of Boed's Opera House, giving to an Invis ible angel who shifted by me the "God bless you" that was on my lips for Miss Anthony. In the afternoon following Miss An thony's first lecture she addressed, pri vately, the mothers, widows, wives' and daughters of this place. At the close of Miss Anthouy's lec ture a large proportion of these ladies placed tlielr names upon a paper, which will be sent to Washington- These names will signify that these women desire to be allowed the right of suffrage. These women were among the best and most sensible women of the city. They did this act because they thought it about time tltat the spirit of woman should arise up and assert itself. Holding in ourselves the nature, phys ical, mental and moral of every human being that is to be born into the world, we feel that there ought to be some car- nest thought among women ; and even as there is a proscribed sphere for us in the moral and physical world, so is there a sphere which can only be filled by us in the scientific and metaphysical world. There are things in life never dreamed of In man's philosophy. You say that we may develop our selves in the science of matter and in the science of mind without ever being allowed to vote, legislate or hold office. In the first place, since we have set out to have some thought and responsibil ity, we want to be "allowed" to do any thing we choose to do. And, after all, what is your chivalry worth if you are not going to give us what wc want when tec ack for iti You grant everywhere to woman the right to think for herself, aud you say, standing in your superior bight, that if she wants anything off" the shelf of legislation you will baud it down to her. She has asked, plaintive ly, for the right of suffrage; you refuse to hand itdown to her, and if in the right eous struggle to attain your eminence she grasps at whatever may help her up the steep ascent, thus piercing tier hands and soiling her womanhood, you tire to blame. "We fully relied upon your politeness, your gallantry, your chivalry; and when we said we wanted to vote with you if it would bo agreeable, smiling tenderly all the while, we looked for you to take off your hat and bow acquiescence ; but no such thing. You tell us just to keep still and quiet and go home and wash the children's faces, and when we want anything just to toy so. ow, we have among us, firstly: A vast army of purple women, who move along through the gloom of the city with the wings of their Pvschcs trailing in the dust; women who have nothing nottiny.' no one to cling to no one to be proud of no one to work for no one to wait for; who joy not In Hope or a Promise In the Land of the Leal whose being never thrills to the pathos of a baby'scry a cry which is a prelude to the song of Life. They bum their faces in the gaudy gaslight and never feel the sunlight of tenderness. "Who lca" tel1 how Ms holy faith was slain for they had a faith ouce, and their era dies were as white as ours? "Who can tell of the sobs and darkness when they laid their innocence down in the dust? "Who can tell of doubts and distrust amidst all the clamor? But they have not only accomplished their own degradation and ruin, but wit ness the quivering lips and sad brow of the wife as she watches them, furtively, across the flimsy line drawn between them. The ruin of the "Priestess" is duplicate The leatitiful sin that black And he? The "Priestess" goes down into the darkness the groping darkness of in famy to legalize Ids lust, and the wife stands up on the dizzv and freezing pinnacle of purity, steeling herself into a sort of lightning rod to conduct God's thunderbolts aside from him down to scorch and blacken the ground upon which the "Priestess" walks. Stephen Pearl Andrews, with ail his line perception and vague philosophy, never had more charity for the "fallen one" than we may have. w e pity her, not witli that sentimental aud perilous pity which has about it so much of color dc rote as to be nearly a temptn tion, almost luring women away from the unlovely drudgery of household cares, to lie stark and white and bcauti ful under the "Bridgo of Sighs" not the pity which weeps, but the pity which helps and suggests. "We sympathize with man's error or crime, but not by partially acknowl edging it to be a necessary evil. "We believe that Go 1 loves the sinner even as he docs the upright ; else how could there have been more rejoicing over the returning sheep than over the ninety and nine that went not astray. And bringing in these "wandering sheep" is what we propose to do in the future, along with other things, and we think this will be a great deal better occupa tion than playing angel especially since "Little Breeches" has suggested the idea of "loafln' round the throne." But God sees clearly the things which baffle our keenest scrutiny, and men and women have walked through years of darkness and tedious toil, to see at last breaking upon them the light of revelation anil science, showing them a brighter and shorter way to their goal ; and without creeds or tucories wo women come, professing an earnest sympathy with human suffering, and guarded and guided by that most sublime injunction, "Bo temperate in all tilings," we believe that human na ture is capable of rising to a very lilgii standard ; but such a name as Stephen Pearl Andrews, with lib splendid talents and abstruse philosophy, and his spe cious and visionary ideas of reform, is likely to work ruinous results. Among other evils that men nave reveled in since history began Is war. In ancient times war was es teemed the greatest pleasure, and love next. Now this is a game which we uonot understand." We have never enjoyed this n,ost delectable pastime, though I see not that we have shown ourselves wanting in capacity to enjoy it. But war is not a pleasure, or only a pleasure In the sense that drunkenness and debauchery are exciting the pas sions of men and leaving women to those lonely hours of waiting and sus pense, which Mrs. Browning has writ ten of with so much feeling and tender ness. I want to relate to you or at least recall toyourminds a little incident in Ancient History. I think it is the Egyptians who have a superstition in regard to cats; and their veneration for these feline animals is so great that they would not harm a cat for their lives, or tinder any circumstances. On a certain time the party atwar with these super stitious people marched into the field, each warrior bearing in his arms and nestled clocly to his heart a beautiful cat. The consequence was that instead of u field of carnage, not one in either of those vast armies was harmed. The enemy dared not attack the men fcr fear of harming the cats. Now your chivalry for woman surely equals the Egyptians' veneration for cats. And what I want to suggest is this : That you take us witit you to the nattic-iicid. laKo us close to your hearts in war, and see if the chivalry" which prompts you to rush across the ball-room Hoor to pick up a lady's handkerchief cannot be of some noble use. See if woman's presence on the field of battle cannot hold warlike man spell-bound, and learn him at last for bearance with his brother. Salem, September 17, 1871. OOBBES PONDENOE. This department of the New Noiitii west is to be a general vehicle for ex change of ideas concerning any and all matters that may be legitimately dis cussed in ourcolumns. Finding it practi cally impossible to answer eacli corres pondent by private letter, we adopt this mode of communication to save our friends the disappointment that would otherwiseaccruefrom ourinabillty toan swer their queries. Wc cordially Invite everybody that has a question to ask, a suggestion to make, ora scolding to give to contribute to the Correspondents' Column. Mrs. H. P., Hulsey : Your remittance through the P. O. came to us all right. Much obliged, as it came in good time. correspondent, writing from Ohio, wishes to know how large a place Port laud is. I To has always heard it repre sented as being a backwoods country town of but little importance, and is surprised that such a journal as the Xkw Nohthwest should be published here. Portland is a thriving young city of up wards of ten thousand inhabitants, the emporium of the Willamette Valley- one of the prospective grancries of the world and, in short, bids fair to become a city of great imiortanec. Two lines of railroad are now being constructed from this point along the Willamette, one on the cast and the other on the west side, both being owned and controlled by Ben Holladay, a very liberal capital ist, who, while making investments that shall redound to his own financial interest, is also vastly benefitting the country by thepermanent improvements he is making. But we have not the space here to enumerate all the advan tages which Oregon possesses. Suffice it to say that, possessed of a salubrious climate, a productive soil, and an enter prising population, the foundation is here already laid of the mightiest State on the Pacific coast California has per sistently misrepresented Oregon, even going so far as to repack Oregon produce and sell it as her own. Tho "Golden State" evidently fears the coming pros perity of her northern sister, and is dis posed to be jealous alwut it. The Secre tary of the Board of Ileal Estate Agents in our city will take pleasure in forward ing you correct and full information in regard to our young State, nnd you had better apply to him for a more extended resume of its advantages. E. McC. wants to know if the New Northwest Is succeeding well, and If it is established on a sound financial basis. To botli of which questions we emphat ically reply "yes." Tiie success of this journal tip to the present date is without a parallel In the first years' history of any newspaper ever started In Oregon, as its constantly increasing subscription lists amply testify. Of course, in inaug' uratingsuclt an enterprise considerable outlay of capital lias to be made, and we wish our friends, one and nil. to mnii. . : . . lorwam wiin ineir nmncs anu suoscrip tion money, and make the already grat (ylng progress attained develop into a grand, complete and glorious triumph. Mrs. P. T., Springfield : Wc have not time to answer you by private letter, and so adopt this method. You might give a few public readings in Portland witli good success, provided you have genius in that direction and It has been cultivated. A public reader, however, should never confine him or herself long to any particular locality. Knowing nothing of your training forsuch a work, it is hard for us to advise you. If your genius needs cultivation, Prof. McGib- eny, of Portland, would, we think, be a verv competent instructor. We honor your desire to do something for yourself, and hope you will be able to realize your cherished wish. THE BIGHTS OF WOMEN. HORACE GREELEY TO TlIEOEORE TILTOX. To the editor of the Golden AgcSir: Your article on this topic is so forcible and just in the main, that I presume you will be quite willing to have its slight inaccuracies corrected in your columns. I do not assume that my views of the Woman Question are of much consequence to others; but, in so far as they may possess interest, it is well that they be clearly understood. Let me, then, indicate your misappreii sions without further preface. I. You say I hold "there ought to be, no divorce at all not for any crime, even the worst." So far as I can recol lect, your only authority for this state ment is a remark, that, hud not the Master spoken otherwise, 1 would not havo deemed adultery a sufficient reason tor dissolving a marriage. As you seem to have given these words undue weight, allow me to explain my view more fully. That insistent, flagitious adultery in husband or wife aflords eause for di vorce, I have not meant to deny. But there have been cases of transient iufidel ty to marriage vows, under the infiu ence of passions inflamed by wine and other iinnatur.il excitements, which be ing followed by prompt and profound contrition, I would not judge as ade quate reasons for divorce. You and I both know that wives have often par doned such lapses in husbands; you and 1 airrec that husbands nave no nguiiui immunity in sucli matters which ougiit returning a day too soon to the Habitual not also to be accorded to wives. Audi i weariness of the most industrious ot tirofoundly honor ami reverence the bus- pens. So while I would be glad (ye, land avIio can say to his erring wife, and honored) if you would notice some "Though I know that you have been points I herewith set down, I shall take false to God and to me, yet because of j It as no discourtesy if you prefer to dis ci tiie love I have borne for you, of the i continue this debate, vow which pledged me to love and , I. You believe in the principle of cherish you till death, and for the sake : Democratic Government inothcrwords of our dear children which God has giv- en us, 1 believe you truly penitent, win lorglveand try' almost to lorget your try your crime, and tuns shield our nine ones from undeserved shame." I regard the husband who speaks and acts thus as a better Christian, a truer man, than Is he who exposes, discards, and outlaws, the wife of his youth for a flagrant transgression nowslncerely and bitterly repented. I suggest therefore that you henceforth represent me as holding that adultery may, but does not always, Jus tify an 'application for divorce. iL You sav I hold that "if a man marries and his wife dies, there should Ik? no second marriage." This, also, Is too swm'dIiil'. Some of my iest and most esteemed iriends are re-married happily, I am sure; wisely and nobly, I judge. Nay, 1 can imagine a case in wiiicn tnepoor, iiani-worKiiiK. father of voting children whom he can not tnko with him to his daily lalnir, should feel constrained for their sake to replace his lost wife by another in whoe iwrfect acceptance and discharge of a mother's duties toward those clnl dretl he could Implicitly trust. Pardon me, mil l am quite comim-nk m. ib casual remark on which you based your broad assertion referred to a re-mar riage following separation iy uivorw, lint. iliMitll. III. Let me state my own conception of re-marriages as complicating marital rotation in the other world. I do not dispute the doctrine of Jesus that "In heaven there is neither mar- 1 fore none can settle, such a case unless I "hearty hatred for free-love and itsde rylng nor giving in marriage," if you . iu twelve members iiududu women as lusions." What do you mean by free have quoted His words exactly. And , well as men. The horror which love? The term is not yet in the die- yet 1 feci tnat there are coupics so com- you have expressed of women "ellective 1 tionanes and has no tlxed meaning, pletely and hapily united in this world I before juries," leads me to say that I I When I say fas I do) that I am optosed that they will be nearer and dearer to urn personally acquainted with several to free-love, 1 mean by it the promiscous each other in the next than they would amiable and excellent ladies at the i intercourse of the sexes, in contradis or could have been had they failed to West, who are duly authorized at tor- 1 Unction to the heart's ideal of mono- meet in tins me, aim l iiiiiiK mesu are happier in cither world than though one i or both of them had re-niurricd. I do not hold that cither jtlier would have been ; narrying If widowed on nly insist that they will I culpable in re-m this planet: I on both rejoice and witli reason in tneir higher life, that neither in this Hie was 1 married a second time. j IV. ion are cihiiui, tuiuroiuj right ht, Mr. Editor, in asserting that my uviction of the proper indissolubility marriage is the mainspring of my conv of ho-tility to Woman Sull'mgc, and to the social philosophy from which many vainly seek to separate tho woman movement. Thoiiirli I have written or dictated very little of what lias, during thu last then years, ucen priuieu as (.tu torial in the Tribune on this subject, it is nevertheless true that my conception of the nature and scope of the marriage relation renders my conversion to Wom an Suffrage a moral impossibility. I have but two left of seven children, and these are both daughters. I would gladly fit them for lives oi useiuincss and honor, as beloved and loving wives of virtuous, upright, noble men, and mothers, ir St shall please God, or good, healthy, happy children. If it be de creed that they are to be, not such women as those I have most admired and reverenced, but men with female physique powerful in ward caucuses anil nominating conventions, vehement in senate and on the stump, and etrec tive before juries in the trial of action rnAt .win T mv tlmt mv irwr IUI I I I 111. I'lll. . 1 ' - - - - "'J i on this globo shall cloe before this Is fain begun. When ami wnerc uiey shall thus shine, it will not be pleasant for me to stay. Mr. Editor, I lelieve our countrymen are Indebted to you for having discov ered (perhaps I should say invented) me as a possible (though mn-t Improbable) candidate for the Presidency. Allow me, then, to thank you for your early and frank demonstration that I can in no contingency be counted on or hoped 'for a Woman hutirnge candidate. 'lV"u un' " '"Vl not even a rcmoic w!nnmv in my ultimately adapting myself to this end. My difierenee with your crowd i too vital, too radical, to permit the most version. I am growing old; my opin - sanguine dreamers to nope ior my con- Ions are tolerable unit; anu tne au-i nave shown great skiii in tracing a enn vanced female of the Laura Fair type, , uection between workiiigman's suffrage who kills the paramour of whom she ; and workingmau's wages how the me claimstobe the rightful aillnity, and clianic, the farmer, or the fisherman gives the lie in open court to the wire , would find that the ballot in his hand she has doubly widowed, is my pet aver- , was money in ids pocket. No writer In ,.!.. OlUUt But why should any man be the can didate for President ot the Woman Suf - fracists. Iigically and consistently, feel that their candidate should be a woman. She ought, moreover, to be one thoroughly emancipated from the "absurdity and folly," tho "narrow ness," and "baleful conservatism." which I am to old to outgrow. Could you not lind one who illustrates in her own person aud history what you so felicitiously term "the liberal thought of an enlichtencd age. iai ner oc one who has two husbands after a sort, and lives in the same house with llieni, both sharing the couch of one, but bear ing the name of the other, (to Indicate her impartiality iierhaps), and cause and candidate will be so well and fitly mated that there will lie no occasion, even under the most .liberal, progres sive, enlightened regime, to sue for their divorce: Could not one of this class be persuaded to overbear her shrinking modesty and nominate her self? In a spirit of hearty hatred for Free Love and all its infernal delusions, I remain, yours, HoitACK GltKKI.EY. Tribune Office, August 7, 1731. MR. TILTOX TO MR. CHKKLKY. Mr. Horace Greeley My Friend: This Is the "off-year" in politics, and tiie dull season in newspapers. The Tammany frauds constitute the only vital topic now astir, and this the Times possesses in fee simple. By and by the opening battle against Grant's re-nom-iuation will tliuuderalong the line, and your interest in this, whether as Presl dcntal candidate, or in your higher function as editor of the Tribune, will engross your whole mind. Just now in the lull seems the beat opportunity (if you care to welcome it) to accept a proposition which grew out of our cor respondence last week, namely that we should compare our views of woman suffrage yours against mine for it. But if you are summering at your farm, I can hardly ask you to cease toying with vour nloiiL'li or ax for the sake of as Mr. Lincoln phrased it, ."government of the people by the people, and for the people." But this principle, as I hold it, includes both men and women. The American republic Is composed of both sexes. Its government exacts the alle giencc of both sexes. Its laws, to a great extent, apply equally (though to too great extent unequally) to both sexes. Its office-holders are, to no in considerable degree, of both soxes. Its taxes fall with unrelenting rigor on both sexes. Now to make our institu tions logically consistent, the elective franchise should lielong equally to Iwith sexes. Is it not so? II. You believe with Thomas Jefl'er- ,,et. -,.r mm tho consent of the fov- i derive their ': 'i ti i.. n, u-IimiI "..mivni.t" is to be thus irivoii r 1 And yet the government, in definncc of I its flinrtor. which is tho Declaration nf i liHlfuemlPiieo. violates one of its fun- dameiital principles by remorselessly denying to mc-li:ilf it citizens any voico in making the laws under which they are to live and die. Is this right or wrong ? III. You cling to trial by jury. Now, ilifk fWtii- jwttiL ti-itli iHicoi 1 f f luf t II f r 41w rights, interests, and honor of women. I - ... ror instance, taue me ease oi a luom- I ers plea for the curiae! v of her children ,:us against the claim of a divorced and drunken husband. I hold that no jury or instniii-e. tnki tne case oi a mom- can ndemmtelv appreciate, and there-' neys at law and practit oners in the' courts. And you yourself have not for Portia? Now if women can gotten stand and plead at the bar, tell me why they cannot sit and listen on the jury ? I V. You defend the American maxim of "no .taxation without representa-1 tion." But I can point you out an : army of women who are not accorded ' leprc&ciiuuiuii. -in JMigiaim, mis in justice has lately been swept away, and I no sympathy witli your accusation, and women as well as men, If theyl hold you to'be wrong instead of right, own taxable property, exercise in that Whatever may be your idea of the moral country the elective franchise. When Henry Vincent was last in New York, he told me that he saw three thousand women In Manchester go to the polls just us they might have gone to the postolllcc, or to the city library or to church. Why would you put the right of sullragc in a republic under greater restrictions than in a monarchy? V. Speaking of England, I remind you that Its governmental head is a representative of that sex to whom you allow no share in the government at all. Your friend John Bright is happy to acknowledge that a woman may be rightfully and illustriously the chief of the State. But if that same woman were an American, you would lie dis tressed to see her exercising even the humble sovereignty of her simple citi zenship. Is not tlte English view, as Mr. Bright holds it, more a credit to an enlightened age than the American view as you teacli It ? VI. You admit that women should have a chance to earn their living. Nothing which the oplmists may sav or the duty of every man to support some woman (either wife, mother, sister or daughter), can niimi you or me to the solemn fact that, morning and evening. to and from the half-paid toil, past your office and mine, there marches an army or women who fight tlte battle of life alone women who, by death, have lost the props of their lives women whose i unna mnlililni. nil fllnti fnil II t ti'; !idtMi fields women, young and helpless, en tering into their womanhood with no daily support save their own industry women who. if tliev are to live ill virtue I and not In shame, must have work to i do and wages for doing it. Now, in vour speeches to workltigmeii, I have ncaru you say mai. one i meir moi ' precious priveleges was the ballot. You.) I l..x 1 1 1... . 1.. t. 1.1 .., the land has Insisted more sedulously than you that the negro, in order to tlx ' his wages and secure his pay, should have liis franchise. Now if the ballot will achieve all this for the wages of a man, have the kindness to luiorm me why It will effect nothing for the wages ora woman? VII. You arc gen r .us enoi gh to ac knowledge that women should have an education. They are as much entitled to it as men. " A' generation or more ago, the New England high schools were opened to girls as well as boys. ' The result to-day is, that the New Eng' land women, as a mass, are the most in telligent body of their sex in America. Now I want this good beginning carried to a better end by throwing open, not only our common schools, but our col leges and universities, to both sexes in stead of restricting these higher institu tions, as now, to young men alone. If Michigan University, Oberlin and other colleges in tiie W est are tree to women, tell me why Yale and Harvard and other colleges of the East should not be conducted on the same humane ami catholic plait? VIII. You have expressed an abhor rence of tiie idea tnat your daughters should become public speakers. This, I confess, surprises me. Have I not seen you repeatedly presiding over iublie meetings addressed by women? Have you not proclaimed, both In the Tribune and elsewhere, the delight with which you used to sit under the ministry of Hev. Antoinette urown liiaeKweu. Furthermore, would It grieve or delight you if your daughters should have the gift of son", and go before the public as Jenny Lind once did, or as Christine Nilsson now does? But what is the difference, in principle, between a wom an's singing and a woman's speaking? IX. You say: "My conception of nature aud scope of the marriage relation renders my conversion to woman suf frage a moral impossibility." Your implication is that woman suffrage tends to dissolve marriage. If you mean by this that woman suffrage will give to women their just rights in the marriage relation, including the right to dissolve it for good cause, then I should be still more eager for woman sutl'rage than I now am. I quoted to you last week the declaration of the American Woman Sutl'rage Association, "Resolved, that woman suffrage means the perpetuity of the marriage relation." That resolution, I think, rellects the sentiment of the great body of woman sufl'ragists. But my own view is tltat woman suffrage will neither destroy marriage on the one hand, nor perpetu ate it on the other. For, marriage is an interest common to women aud men. How then will woman's vote affect it more than man's? Men have the fran chise, but have they used it to vote awav marriage? When women get the franchise will they use it to vote away marriage? No. If the marriage insti tution is to be ever done awav, the first motion towards its altfflitiou will come trom men, not lrom women, it was Hamlet not Ophelia, who said. " I will I have no more marriages." Consider one 1 tiling, namely, the loving nature God I has given to woman. There is nothing ' " won? swMucli wants as a liome and to dwell in it as the happy wife of a bic husband, and as the loving mother i ot beautiful children. This is everv I J omairs nicai. aow it tne ballot in Her 1,aAs ave any eilect at all on her , Kal -' wl" 1,e voluntarily use this I ballot for the destruction of what her I soul considers tho most sacred thinirnii earth ? How can you persuade yourself , mat women wouiu vote to abrogate that very marriage which men vote to main tain? Hut even if woman would do this, would not you anil other men like i'ol, "e thereby proven imiiinli in flirt tiiirrtfiirrt tyrants over :v "w relation, and :y- -n """''J ,1(,t the m-cessity be plain that the fivl! bn regulating this relation should 1,0 relormed . X. Your letter tieruratcs into mimic marnaue. it this is your niean- ing of the word, then I join you in your rebuke of the doctrine and practice. But if by free-love you imply as many so-called free-lovers do, simply a more liberal and humane treatment oy the civil law of the whole subject of nnirri ajrc and divorce in other words, more liberty to the parties concerned and less interference by the State then I have duties of husband and wife (and perhaps I would not greatly ditrer with you here, certainly not in all you say of mutual patience and forgiveness), I respectfully ask you to set forth how far the State laws or, in other words, how far a majority of citizens have any moral right to determine whether these twains shall live together or go apart. Will you enlighten me? XI. You base your notion of divorce on the scripture, and yet is far from scriptural. Your words are, "Had not the Master spoken otherwise, I would not have deemed adultery a sufficient reason dissolving a marriage." But what is Christ's idea of adultery? He says, "Whoso Iookcth upon a woman to lust after her, hath already committed adultery witli her in ids heart." Now it you base your uoctrnie ot divorce on ; Christ's definition of adultery, and if you press tills doctrine to the full extent of that definition, you would divorce three quarters or nine-tenths of all the marri ages in Christendom. Moreover, turn ing from Christ to Paul, I refer you to the seventh chapter or Mrst Corinthians, , and particularly toa memorable passage i in it wnicnconyueareaniiiiowsoiinave translated as follows : "If the unbeliev ing husband or wife seeks for a divorce. let it not lie hindered; for in such cases the unbelieving husband or wire is not bound to remain under the yoke." Do you not see that, in going to the Scrip ture to find therein au argument against divorce, you find instead the most solemn and sweeping authorization of divorce .' XII. You have the following sugges tive sentence : "That persistent, flagiti ous adultery in husband or wife aflords good cause for divorce, I have not meant to deny." w ell, then, would you auer our existing, law, which grants divorce for adultery, into granting it only for "persistent, flagitious adultery'?" Hso, how will the law draw the line between persistent and causual, flagitious and pardonable ? What would you think or a proiwsition by moderate and occasional ! thievcstoameniitheiawpunishingtheft i so as to mane it reacii oniy -persistent, flagitious theft?" XIII. You have helped t i make, or ' at least to keep, the divorce law of our I own State very Hlibeisil nml milmt Tlio Slate or New York grants divorce only for adultery- But all the New England States grant divorce for other causes. such as drunkenness, cruelty, desertion. failure to support, and tin. lik AVili you rebuke those States for this legisla tion, and call their citizens Free-Lovers for adopting it? Or fwhat would be better) will you join me in an endeavor to import tho Massachusetts legislation on H1,-14 subject into our New York code? . xYv You helped to ratify the Four- '""- anu r nteenth Amendments. In bJ, tlo,n?;.yo1- builded bettor than vou 2te'f hcn. an youranru- " ,y? 11 co1-w too late. The case is as plain as a Japan crystal. The loiirteentii Amendment sTivs: "AH V- I- 5tatcs. aHl- subject to the juria- tiT I'lfi0,' itizensof theV.ilted ? S ' nnJ?rM ,e ?tatc wl-ensiir-they reside" Mr. Bingham, the author of tins Amendment, admits that this world "persons" includes woninn Wl,n(m., doubt, therefore, has heretofore existed as to whether women were citizens, that doubt was removed by the Fourteenth Amendment. Now the old Constitution, Article 4, said (and still says): "Citrzcns or each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities or citizens in the several States.-" "What is the meaning of this? Even so early as Washington's day, the Supreme Court or the United States, through Judsre Bushrod Washington, decided that among these "privileges and immuni ties" was the right to exorcise "the elective franchise." Chancellor Kent. Judge Story, and the other great lights that have illumined the textof the Con stitution, long ago united in declaring tne same thing. Tiie Fourteenth Amendment has since carried these "privileges and immunities" a ston be yond the Fourth Article. This Amend ment, after having declared "all persons born or naturalized i ti the United States" tobecitizens (including womenas well us men), then immediately adds: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge tho privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." In other words, no State shall "abridge the privileges or immunities'' either or men or women, among which is the "right to exercise tho elective franchise." So you see tho links of the " chain. All persons fiucltmihg women) are citizens; all citizens have privileges and immunities, iucludiug suffrage: therefore women, like other citizens, are entitled to suffrage. If there is any flaw in this argument, will you do me the tavor to point it out : XV. You say, "Why should any man be the candidate for President or the woman suffragists. Logically and con sistently, I reel that their candidate should be a woman." To this I replv, that certainly I would have no objection to a woman as a candidate, either Ibrthe Presidency or any other otline. And yet woman suffrage does not require a woman to be its candidate, any more Uian negro suffrage demands a negro for a like position. You have been a prom inent advocate of negro suffrage, and yet I do not remember that you ever nomi nated a negro for President or tho United States. Indeed, I once urged you to nominate Frederick Douglass rbr Vice President, but you declined. And, it you will iKirdon mo for the digression, since you liave done me tho honor to say that 1 "invented" you as a Presidential candidate, will you now let me gratiry my early and uuquenclied instinct as an abolitionist by similarly "inventing" Mr. Douglass as the candidate Tor Vice President on your ticket ? XVI. This leads me to refer to your sitting at Cooper Institute a few even ings ago as chairman or a meeting called to hear a speech from Mr. It. B. Elliott. a member of Congress from South Caro lina a negro. I am glad you honored himas you did: and all I ask vou to do ror woman's enfranchisement is exactly what you have done for the nesrro's. But. on that very evening, in spite of the fact mat me American tiovcrnment still refuses the political rights of twenty millions ot citizens on account or sex. j;ou went to the Tribune office and pre- iiAin iu me leiKjrioi uie proceedings me astounding line "j'jquni itights to All." Now, in view of your attitude on the woman question, will you not correct the next proof-sheet of your favorite catch-word into "Equal Bights" for Hair?" Finally, your recent communication addressed to me in my own journal was reprinted by you in yours, but not a line of my reply there accompanied' it, although tho other daily papers of New lorkdid equal justice to both siues ot the controversy. I mention this fact for the sake of pledging that eveny word which vou may say as a rejoinder to this present letter, if you print your remarks in the Tribune, shall be faithfully re printed in the G'odcn .rifle. In this way, since I can never hope to equal you in ability, I shall at least have the honor of excelling you in fairness. Ever your frier 'I, TiiEODOitE Tirvrox, A Petiiifikd Bird's Nbst and Eggs. A correspondent of the Scientific Ameri can writes : Tiie most remarkable petrifaction I ever saw was round in the mining ground of Messrs. Nioholsand Ennis.in the m xset mining Uistrlat, in (jauior nia. It consisted of a bird's nest and eggs thoroughly silicified, the eggs re taining their natural size and shape. The nest was somewhat fiattened, and what had evidently been the straws anu twigs of which it'had informer times been composed were like threads or glass. Some or the eggs weft? broken before the nest was discovered, tho shells seemed thickened, bit very little, if any. What had apparently been the Inside or the egg was now a little dab ot glass. This nest was taken from the fork or a large fossil tree, whore it had been for ages, undisturbed in its cosy mioHikt nlace. until wood, nest and eggs had passed away, and their plneo and form been assumed by the sllex or which the fossil was composed. Mrs. Mary "Wilson owns a farm of 150 acres, near Head's Corners, Ontario county, N. Y., and, although 72-years of age, has gathered in all hor grain without help, bhc was found by an in terviewer pitching ofTa load of wheat, and a day or two before had been niow'ing. She swings a scythe and handles' a pitchfork with the ease of a man in his prime. One of tln mnnv Misses Younir was recently spoken to by lier father, Brig ham, in reference to a proposal of mar riage from a Salt LaKe mercuaui. young woman, witit considerable epunK, replied: "1 am wining i" '"""-' " Wr en husbands, if you will et-n e select them for myself? but I will uootput up with a piece of a nuuu a- niivslciuns aro; mu upo - oung lady phjsi ciu .AiUiWa,re- !! iimtiFiiQUi v" r ..vsri; nut our couiurj ,-."'v."iiiy. suit, it is sal conn 'be.