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THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
On "Wednesday last the Electors' of President
and Vice President assembled. in the Senate cham
ber, in this City, at 12 o'clock, M. in accordance
with law, and proceeded to organize and cast the
rote of North Carolina. The following Electors,
being the whole number, were in attendance :
For the State at large, James C. Dobbix.
First District, "William H. Thomas.
Second District, Burton Cbaiqk.
Third District, Walter F. Leak.
Fourth District, Robert P. Dick.
Fifth District, Abraham Bencher.
Sixth District, L. O'B. Branch.
Seventh District, Samuel J. Person.
Eighth District, D. G. W. Ward.
Ninth District, Thomas Bragg.
The Proclamation of the Governor, convening
the College, was read by D. G. "W. Ward, of the
On motion of Mr. Bragg, "Walter F. Leak, of the
Third District, was appointed President of the
College ; who, being conducted to the Chair, re
turned his thank? for the honor and spoke as fol-
Gentlemen of the Electoral Colleger I return you
toy warmest thanks for the unmerited compliment
you have just bestowed in selecting me to preside
over your honorable body. "
To say that I do not feel proud of the honor you
hare now conferred would be to indulge a peurile and
unworthy affectation, unbecoming the occasion, and
altogetherat variance with the emotions ot my bosom.
At no Deriod since mv entering- into public liie,
have I been called upon to address an audience politi
cal or otherwise, in which I labored under as great a
degree of embarrassment as I do on the present oc
casion. , ,
My embarrassment originates less trom not know
r what to say than how to say it; a feeling I know
and each of vou and those around can more
In nnnrpriate than 1 describe.
While 1 have been ever ready, under any and up
onall occasions, to stand forth the humble ad vocate
of the principles of my party, and thatktoo in the hour
of their greatest need, now,.the;battle having been
fought and the victory won, I feel no disposition to
indulge in any, the slightest remark, that may be
calculated to wound the feelings ol the most sensi
tive gentleman present.
Yes, in the language of our distinguished political
leader, with the man of noble, high minded and gen
erous impulse, the hour of victory is always the hour
of magnanimity; and, gentlemen, 1 need not say that
such I know are your sentiments.
That political controversy, circumscribed within
proper limits, is both right and commendable, we
presume is what no well informed mind will deny.
I will go further and say, that while it is the very
element that sustains the vessel of State, great care
should be taken that the excesses of party feeling
should be restrained within proper limits, lest its
malevolence should generate a spray and bewilder
the pilot's course, and end in the wreck of the whole
We have been contending, and as 1 know and be
lieve on both sides, honestly contending for principle;
we have; met, each other before the proper forum,
and then and there entered into our respective views
of governmental policy ; and I now congra tulate you
and congratulate the American people upon the ver
dict which we are this day to record.
They, the jurors of the respective vicinages, have
declared, in 'hunder tones, too loud to be unheared,
as well as too significant to be misundersiued, that
the principles of Democracy as handed down to us
from our political fathers, are the principles best cal
culated to make us a great, a prosperous and a hap
We have now met to record that verdict, by select
ing mea known to entertain the principles which the
majority of the freemen of North Carolina have en
dorsed. Yes, we have here assembled, and organized our
selves into an Electoral College, and in the presence
of this array of intelligence and -respectability, we
are about to cast our votes for a President and Vice
President of these United States.
An important political right; a right, which while
it illustrates both the theory and practical operation
of our government, proclaim so the world that Ameri
can Democracy rightly understood does not consist
(as has been falsely charged) in every man's govern
ing himself, but in every man's having the right to
choose his own Governor.
When we say that Democracy is equality, we do
not mean absolute but relative equality ; not equality
per te, but that kind of equality consistent with the
governor and governed.
American Democracy has as much to fear from ex
treme equality, as from marked inequality as much
irom licentiousness, which is an excrescence of liber'
ty. as from aristocracy, which is a scion of monarchv. ,'
No, gentlemen, Democracy as we have proclaimed ;
ii, is conservative in us character ana lias not one
single levelling trait.
INo man for one moment doubts either the patriot
ism or the intelligence of either of the great political ,'
The patriotism of both lcoks to the improvement
as well as the preservation of a common country,
and the only difference consists in the means employ
ed to attain that end.
Patriotism, allow me to say, I hsrve often thought
is a word little understood
by those who are most
noisy in its commendation.
That is not patriotism which, by overlooking the
mean, has an eye single only to the end, even though
that end should be national aggrandizement.
No national elevation should ever be pursued at
the expense of national character.
Justice, the love of right, the practice of right
for rights sake, these should always characterizelhe
intercourse of nations, as well as of individuals.
We should never forget, in the language of the
inspired pensman, that righteousness exalteth a na
tion," and I verily believe, that any departure there
from will in due time receive ita ir,0ni.j .t,k..
A man has the natural right to the fruits of his own
industiy, but he has no right to appropriate to his own
use the industry of another.
So it is with a nation ; it has a natural right to im
prove its own condition, but it has no right to secure
its own aggrandizement at the expense of another.
Such has never been the course of ihe American
people, nor of those who constitute the American
They have always in the language of the sage of
the Heruutage,asked nothing but what is right,neither
will they ever submit to any thing that is wrong.
American Democracy, while it ever stands ready
to secure the greatest good to the greatest number,
has never yet went so far as to be ready to embark
Spon a crusade for the wide world's freedom, and
While it deeply sympathizes for the oppressed of all
nations, it r.ever will quit its own to stand upon for
No, it stands inflexibly opposed to the wild sway
Pi popular passion, to the lust of conquest, and to the
intense cravings of hot blood for lawless gratification.
buch is Fourierism, Agravianism, Fanny W right
is tn, but it is any thing else than the Pemocmcy we
In conclusion, gentlemen, et we say to you, that
the march pf our principles is onward ; but victory
the indoleirt " ? "Pe 'm '"P f
r.T..'Vli.81 be T'g'!ance, organization? and a con
tW,?n r V1 10 ecure I thank jou again, gen
tlemen, for the distinction conferred. . B
motion of Mr. Branch, Perrin Busbee, of
ColWe re1uested to act as Secretary to the
Mr. DoWn then moved that the College pro
ceed to vote by ballot for President of the United
ted States and he nominated therefor Franklin
ierce, of New Hampshire. The ten votes of the
ur?on SretnCaStfor Fklin Pierce; wW
jt . .rerson
nominated for Vice President
r ILLIAM R. ITIV
G. Of All-kamo TUa. tan.
stye: r ?m b;
f it., o. .
r. waige moved that a Committee"
of two be appointed to superintend the signing,
directing, and sealing the certificates of the votes ;
which was adopted, and Messrs. Craige and Ben
cher appointed said Committee.
The College tfien took a recess until four o'clock,
P. M. ; at which time the College re-assembled,
when Mr. Craige from the Committee, reported
the certificates as ready for the signatures of the
Electors, and the same wera then signed agreeably
On motion of Mr.- Bencher, "William B. Gulick,
of "Wayne, was appointed Messenger to take charge
of and deliver the certified list of votes to the
President of the Senate, at the City of "Washing
ton ; and the President of the College delivered
the same to the said Messenger, with instructions.
On motion of Mr. Dick, the thanks of the Col
lege, were unanimously tendered to the Senate for
the use of their chamber; and on motion of Mr.
Thomas, the thanks of the College were likewise
unanimously tendered to the President for the dig
nified manner in which he had discharged his du-
tin ami tn the Secretary lor iub auie uiuuuci 111
I which he had performed his.
The College then adjourned.
Thr was a lar?e concourse in attendance to
wit.np.ss the proceedings, which were conducted
with much dignity and deliberation. The specta
tors applauded warmly as the votes of the College
were cast for Franklin Pierce and William R,
This is the first Republican vote which tHis State
has cast for President and Vice President, since
1836 ; but the " old North" is in the right .path
now, and we have the fullest confidence that she
will remain there.
We refer our readers to our legislative columns
for proceedings from Tuesday to Thursday, inclu
On Thursday the Senate disagreed to the House
proposition to vote on that day for an Attorney
General, but agreed to vote to-day (Friday) for
S upremc Court Judge. On the same day the two
IIouses voted twice for Senator. Mr. Dobbin and
Gen. Saunders increased their vote, while Mr.
Shepard's vote fell off. There were a number of
We continue to hear, from all quarters, the
strongest expressions from the Democracy in favor
of Mr. Dobbin. He is gaining, as the vote shows ;
and all his friends have to do to ensure his election
is to stand firmly by him. A full vote on the part
of the Democrats for the nominee of the party,
would at once put an end to the present state of
things. And how long, may we be allowed to
ask, is this condition of things to be continued ?
Gentlemen who are refusing, for whatever reasons,
to support the nominee, may rest assured that the
eyes of the Democrats of the whole State are upon
them ; and that if a Whig should slip in as the
result of existing differences, they will be held to
a strict accountability for such result. The pa
tience of the Democratic people is well nigh ex
HON. JAMES C. DOBBIN.
The Lorian (Ohio) Argus of the 24th Novem
ber contains the following allusion to Mr. Dobbin :
" North Carolina U. S. Senator. We learn
that the Democratic members of the North Carolina
1 Legislature have nominated the Hon. James C. Dob
bin tor United States Senator, in the plaoe of the
! Hon. Willie P. Manguin, whose term expires on the
I 4th of March next. Jt is thought that the Whigs
will unite upon the Hon. William A. Graham, late
W hig candidate for the Vice Presidency. As the
Democrats have only one majority on joint ballot,
there will be undoubtedly, much strife over the mat
ter. The Whigs have had both of the Senators for
some years, and we rejoice to know, that the De
mocracy of that State have -presented so noble and
able a man as their candidate.
The writer of this article served with Mr. Dobbin
in the late Baltimore Convention, which nominated
Gen. Pierre for the Presidency, and can freely State
that the bearing- and remarks of no man in that Con
vention made a more favcrable impression upon us
than that of Mr. Dobbin ; nor with the exception,
psrhaps of the Hon. Pierre Soule, United States
Senator from .Louisiana, was there a man more
marked and cheerfully listened to."
The Argus then gives Mr. Dobbin's speech in
the Baltimore Convention, and adds that " the ef
'feet of the speech did more to nominate Franklin
Pierce than any lUng that transpired in the Con
The Legislature of Vermont adjourned on Wed
nesday morning. A liquor bill, approximating to the
Maine law was reported to the House from the Sen
'ate, with an amendment sending the matter to the
1 people, but providing that, in case the people decide
I against it in March, the bill shall take effect in Dec.
1 1853, The amendment was adopted, and after much
j discussion, the bill was passed 91 to 90. The
Senate accepted the House amendments to the bill.
In the evening session
Mr. Hager moved to reconsider the vote passing
the Senate bill to prevent the traffic in intoxicating
drinks, stating that tie had voted contrary to his in
tention. The Speaker stated that the bill was not in the
possession of the House.
Mr. Harlow moved that the Senate be requsted to
return the bill into the possession of the House ; and
this was agreed to 93 to 83.
I n the Senate on Tuesday
Mr. Blake moved to return to the House the liquor
bill, according to their request; which was decided
by the Chair to be out of order, unless the vote con
curring with the House in their amendments to the
bill was reconsidered.
Mr. Hale moved a reconsideration of the vote ;
which was lost 11 to 13.
The Legislature adjourned on Wednesday morn
ing, having enacted the Maine law by only one
majority in the House.
HEALTH OF COL. KING.
The last Richmond Enquirer, says : " We un
derstand that Senator Clemens of Alabama, passed
through this city Monday morning, from the South,
on his way to Washington city, and that he was
asked by a gentleman on the cars, as to the health
of Vice President elect, Wm. R. King, and his
reply was thatlie saw Mr. King on his way through
Alabama, a few days before, and that his health
was greatly improved. roach better than usual."'
The report, therefore, put in circulation a few
days ago about Col. King's death, is doubtless
entirely unfounded. " '
The ' obsequies in memory of Daniel Webster
which , took place in Boston on the 30th instant,
were magnificent. The procession was immense,
General Pierce was present. An oration was de
livered tit Faneuil Hall by George S. Hilliard, Esq.
of that City. . - . .
We conclude below the Correspondence between
Mr. Buchanan and Gen. Saunders in relation to
the purchase of Cuba"; '
Mr. Saunders to Mr. Buchanan.' Extracts
y ' La Granja, July 29, 1848. '
Sin : I bad the honor to receive, by the bands of
Mr. Sawyer, on the 24th instant, despatch No. 21,
enclosing copies of a letter from the Department -to
Mr. Campbell," and of a confidential order from the
Secretary of War to Major General Butler, all rela
ting to matters in Cuba, together with a special com
mission from the President, authorizing me to enter
into negotiations for the cession of that island to the
In acknowledging the receipt of these papers, I
beg to express to the President my deep obligations
for this distinguished mark of confidence in confiding
to me so important and delicate a commission, and at
the same time to express to you my thanks for the
very full and valuable information you have given
me in your despatch. T shall not fail to avail myself
freely of its suggestions, facts, and arguments, in any
negotiation I may have on the subject.
As I am directed to make a full and faithful report
to the Department of every thing which may trans
pire in connexion with the subject, I have thought it
advisable ato avail myself of your directions to en
gage a special messenger to carry this communication 1
as far as Liverpool, and to make it as full as I can at
this time, so that in any future despatch I may refer
to it in a way you will understand, without at the
same time risking any thing by a miscarriage.
There are difficulties which surround the subject
which meets us at the threshold, and which it is prop
er I should explain, that you may be the better pre
pared to judge as to the course I may find it necessa
ry tn pursue in the business. In the first place, I am
not a little embarrassed as to the person to whom I
should first open the subject.
I have also heard from-another source that the
Duke of Sototnayor was unfriendly to the United
Stales. I.have not myself discovered any feeling of
thetkind. Uo the contrary, be always speaks with
pride ot his grandfather, Governor McKean, and with
respect of our country. Gen. Narvaez, the president
of the council, is a bold, fearless man, the soul of the
Cabinet. yet he is
difficult of approach, and might not like the respon
ftibility or having the subject in the hrst insunce
reached to him. Another difficulty, and, as 1 fear.
an insurmountable one, is the influence of the Queen
Mother. She has great control over her daughter,
and is teared by the Ministry, and 1 suspect would
most deeidedly object to the cession. She has con
siderable investments in Cuba, from whioh she de
rives great profits.
- These investments are loudly complained of by
the people of Havana, as interfering with their pri
vate maitersand such as the Queen Mother should not
intermeddle with such as gas-light companies, and
other associations, in a small way. she could only
be silenced by a prospect of gain, or indemnity for
her loss ; but at ttis Mage of the business it is not
necessary she should know any thing about it, un
less the Minister should see fit to consult her.
have already intimated to the Secretary of Foreign
Affairs my wish to have a private interview with.him,
and received an answer through his secretary, that he
was confined to his chamber by a servere attack of
the gout, but would see me so soon as lie was able
to attend to business. Whether 1 shall ask an au
dience of Gen. Narvaez will depend on my meeting
with a favorable opportunity for doing so,
At this stage of my report, i heard there was like
ly to be a change in the omce ot Minister of for
1 deemed it prudent to see ben. Narvaez, an as
certain the truth of the rumor. He readily informed
me the health of the Duke of Sotomayor rendered it
necessary for htm to retire, and that Mr. Pidal would
take his place. I at once decided to ask a private
interview of General Narvaez, and to make to him
my communication in regard to Cuba. He, without
lief nation, acceded to my request, it it should be my
pleasure .o make any communication to him.
It was arranged 1 should call the next day, when
he would receive me at an early hour. I according
ly called at the hour appointed, and opened the con
versation by seating the information which had been
given by Mr. Campbell relative to the threatened in
surrection in the Havana: your instructions to our
Consul as to the caution to be used in his words and
actions, to avoid even the suspicion of encouraging
the insurgents ; and the positive order of the Secre
tary of War to Major General Butler to prevent any
attempt on the pari of the volunteers in their return
from Mexico from stopping at the Havana, He ex
pressed himself as thankful of the information : as
entirely satisfied with the conduct of our Govern
ment ; and requested me to express nuchas gratia,
many thanks to the President for his course in the
business. He further said they had their difficulties
to contend with, both in Cuba and at home; but
should always look with confidence to our great
country, from the friendly relations which had so
long existed between Spain and the United States.
He requested to be furnished with copies of your
answer and of the Secretary'sorder. I promised to
give him a copy of the order to Gen. Butler, and of
so much of your letter as referred to the subject ;
with the understanding that the information given by
Mr. Campbell was not to be used in any way to ex
cite prejudices against him as our consul.
1 considered tins a .favorable moment to introduce
the subject which had been the pecular object of my
visit. 1 began by saying : " His Excellency would
allow me to advert to another matter in regard to the
Island of Cuba, which, though one of delicacy, was
of great importance to, us, and I trusted he would rer
ceive my communication in the same friendly spirit
in which it was made." He replied it would afford
him much pleasure to hear any thing I might have to
say. 1 continued : his excellency was tuny aware
of the very deep interest which the United States felt
n every thing connected with.the present condition
and future prospects of Cuba; its position, its great
importance to our commerce, the condition ot a por?
tion of its population, were well calculated to increase
the interest we felt in its fate'" lie expressed his
full assent to all of this. I said, " that whilst the
President and our people were perfectly content that
t should remain a colony of opain, and did not by
any means desire to cnange mat relation, several
events had recently taken place well calculated to ex
cite our fears, and to create some alarm on the sub
ject. I should content myselt by reterring him to a
few of them, ihe recent revolution in trance, and
the order by its Provisional Government for the im
mediate emancipation of the slaves in the French
islands, and the fatal consequences which had fol
lowed, had produced great anxiety in the United
States as to its effects on the Spanish islands. He
would doubtless recollect the speech of Lord George
Bentick at the last session of Parliament on the
ubject of the Spanish bondholders, and of the reply
of Lord Palmerston, asserting the right of the Brit
ish Government to wage war against Spain for the
recovery of these debis whenever it might deem it
expedient." His Excellency very emphatically sig-J
nibed his recollection of these speeches. " These
circumstances, in connexion with the recent suspen
sion of all diplomatic intercourse between the two
Governments, had added to the anxiety ot the United
States as to the condition of Cuba. They had led
the President to believe the time had arrived when
it was prudent for him to give to 'he Minister at this
Court authority to treat on the subject of Cuba, if it
should be the pleasure of her Catholic Majesty to
enter into such a negotiation. I had been honored
by the President with a special commission for this
purpose ; a tact whjch 1 nad been directed to commu
nicate to the Government of her Majesty in confidence.
acd whioh, from the respect I entertained towards
his Excellency, had induced me to make it known to
him." He said In reply, "That he received the in
formation with much pleasure; that whilst heshould
consider it as confidential, it might be best that the
Minister of State should be made acquainted with it;
that he enjoyed his full confidence, and might be im
plicitly confided in" I rejoined ; " I did not doubt
on that score; but had thought from the nature of the
subject, as the Minister of State was just about to
enter upon theduties of his office, it was most prop
er to make the communication to his Excellency."
Here our conference ended. As you will see, I
was somewhat guarded in the latter part of my ex
pressions, and. that the Minister was not very explic
it in his reply. He evideniiy was pleased with the
communication. He was not only courteous and re
spectful, but manifested the greatest attention and
interest during the whole of the conversation. 1
deemed it most prudent not to use the word cession,'"
and am not exactly certain thathe understood me as
beinj authorized te treat for the cession or merely
I did not
ieav to be
'. I have
tliink it politic, at this stage of tha business.
mora explicit or to press the matter further,
opened the subject, apprized him of my authority,
and can hereafter advert to the subject as eircumstan -
cea may justify. I am well satisfied nothing will
induce the Spanish Government to part with Cuba
but the apprehension of a successful revolution in the
island, or the fear of its seizure by England. The
national pride and character of these people would
not induce them readily to give op on the first point.
I have reason to know the Government are not with
out their fears on the latter point. . As 1 learn, pri
vate letters from England give them to andersland
that Lord Palmerston is disposed to give them trouble,
and that the bondholders are pressing that something
decisive should be done in their behalf. It the Gov
ernment shall entertain any serious fears in regard to
the matter, they would likely open the subject, and
thus enable me to bring forward a formal proposition
to treat for a ceesion. I deem it, therefore, the bet
ter policy to suffer the thing to rest as it isMor the
present. The court will remain here for some weeks,
when I shall have the opportunity of meeting the
Ministers in an'informal way,without attracting that
attention which our official visits in Madrid would
likely excite. Besides, I can, at my discretion, as
the matter now stands, renew the subject with the
new secretary, which 1 shall most certainly .do should
I discover the least ground to suspect that they are
laboring under any misapprehension as to my con
versation with General Narvaez.
Mr. Pidal belongs to the Freneh party, is strongly
prejudiced against the English,- and will warmly
second Gen. Narvaez on that point. He was Secre
tary of War at the time of the Queen's marriage; is
the brother-in-law of Mon, who was the Minister of
r inance at the time, and the great co-laborer of Count
Bresson in support of the Montpensier marriage.
Still he is strongly Spanish in his feelings and char
acter, and not likely to join in promoting an act cal
cultaed to shuck the national pride. On the other
hanJ, he is a bold, rough, independent man, and
would fearlessly carry out any measure he might un
dertake. Of the Queen mother I bave already spo
ken, so that you have a pretty accurate idea of the
persons with whom I have to deal, and of the proba
bility of success. Yon will naturally inquire if the
state of the finances is to have no effect on the ques
tion. - With an empty treasury, and the expenses
da ily increasing; with the credit ot the Government
so far reduced as to be driven to the necessity of- re
sorting to a forced loan to raise the small sum of five
millions, one would suppose such a slate of things
as this would be the first consideration with those
charged with the ad minis tratiou of the Government.
But, unfortunately, such is the desperate state of the
finances, and of the public debt, that all seem to des
pair of correcting them. The foreign debt is estima
ted at four hundred millions of dollars, of which the
agent of tne English creditors claims two hundred
and fifty millions. Of the domsslic debt, what is the
amount no one seems to know : 'lis said even the
Government keeps no account, of it; or, if it does,
will not let it be known. It is stated at three hnn
dred millons three per cent.; exchangeable for certain
kinds of public property. Mr. Henderson is still at
Madrid, acting as agent of the bondholders, and
boasts of occasionally receiving a note of promise
from General Narvaez. The fact is, I expect he is
merely kept there for appearances. I do not see how
they can well meet the heavy demands on the treas
ury, even if so disposed. Certainly they cannot,
without that radical reform which no Ministry has
the resolution to undertake. The average receipts,
fcr the last four or five years have been sixty-five
millions of dollars, and the expenditures seventy mil
lions. The army is computed at one hundred and
fifty thousand in the Peninsula, fifteen or twenty
thousand for Cuba, and fifteen thousand for the other
colonies. As matters now stand, when the country
is governed by the bayonet, there is little prospect
of a reduction.
The Government places a much higher estimate on
the revenue of Cuba than you seem to calculate.
They place it at twelve millions of dollars) and, af
ter aeaucting tne expenses 01 ins citii auu unumj,
claim for the treasury six millions. Besides this,
the orders or rents on the treasury, pay to the navy,
and employment to persons who would be entitled to
retiring pensions at home, together with the proms
irom tne nour monopoly, mase accoraingio me esu
mate here, some fifteen or twenty millions annually
I doubt, therefore, if we have any thing to calculate
on from a financial view of the question. Hence my
conclusion that nothing short of necessity, arising
from their fears as to the consequences, win mrce
them to act.
Allow me now to present the view I ventured to
hint at some short time since. In Mr. Forsyth s in
structions to Mr. Vail, 15th July, 1840, No. 2, is to
be found the following very strong language : " 100
are authorized to assure the Spanish Government that
in case of anv altemDt. from whatever quarter, to
wrest from her this portion of her territory, (Cuba.)
she may securely depend upon the military and naval
resources ot the united oiaies to ata ner in preserv
ing- or recovering it." This assurance was accord
ingly eiven by Mr. Vail, and again repeated by Mr,
Irvinsr. under his instructions from Mr. Webster.
With this guaranty for the safety of the island, the
Spanish Government has rested in perfect security
At tha time of Mr. Rulwer's dismissal, when the
public apprehended a rupture wiih England, it was a
common remark at the Puerta del Sol--ihe great the
atre for political discussion-" that the United States
would aid us is the protection of Cuba." Now,
whilst I would not formally withdraw this assurance,
I suggest the propriety of changing our tone, by say
ing, "In a war between Spain and England the Uni
ted Stales miff lit feel oreatly embarrassed, from ber
friendly relations with England; that she is not only
our ally, with whom we are at peace, but with whom
at present we have the most intimate commercial re
lations ; that whatever we may thinK ot ner colonial
policy, in the extension of her commerce and for the
advancement of her manufactures, the Untted States
would feel great reluctance in an open rupture with
her at this time ; besides, she might claim from us
the same neutrality in a war wiih Spain as she had
observed in curtate contest with Mexico. 1 his
language might do good; and, as I think, could do
us no harm. And whatever might be our secret res
olution that under no circumstances could we allow
Cuba to come under the control of England-r-stil! it
might be as well for us to keep this resolution to our
In mv interviews hereafter with the Minister 1
shall venture to present this view of the subject, as a
reason why we should greatly preier ipe purcnase 01
Cuba to ajiy interfereuce to prevent its falling into
the power of England.
T hava tSus iriven vou a full account ot what has
taken place since the reception ot your despatch of
the difficulties which surround the subject, ot my
prospects, aud of the course J design to pursue in re
gard to this interesting subject. I leel nigniy nat
tered in having conhded to me a irusi in wuosb suc
cessful execution I should connect my name Willi
one of the most importapt events in our diplomatic
hi.lory- ' ' , "
1 am. sir. most respeotiuity yoqr 00 1 servant.
It. M. SAUNDERS.
jAVfES BUPHANAN, Esq.
Secretary of State.
Mr. Saunders ta Mr. Buchanan.
LzOATrON 09 THE UNITED STATES,
Madrid, August 18, 1848.
Sir: I reached here this morning from La Granja,
and was somewhat surprised to find the gentleman
who had engaged to carry my acspaicn 10 Liverpool
had not yet left, but expects to do so to-nignt. t is
Derhaos as well, as it enables me to add lniormation
on the subject of a more definite character. On the
. . - . - : : . i 1 t
lain instant 1 nau an interview wun uro minister ui
Foreign Affairs, in which was more explicit in my
communication, and he more candid tn his reply. 1
repeated the interest which the United Mates felt in
the present and future condition of Cuba, and the be
lief of the President that possibly the existing state of
things might render it desirable for her Majesty to
enter into negotiations on the subject. He said he
had been informed by General Narvaez ot the nature
of my communication to him, and ot my authority ;
that, if I wished to press the .matter further at this
time, he should like to hear Whether I proposed to
treat for the cession of Cuba to the United States, orj
for its security to Spain ; and, in the event of a diffi-
culty with England, whether Spain eould rely forany-j
aia irom ine unueu oiaies.
1 answered that it was from the fear of a difficulty
with England, and the threat on her part to seize on
Cuba, which. had, in part, induced the President to
give me the special authority he bad done at present ;
itial, as his excellency woufd see. an open rupture
betweenSpaioand England the allies f the United '
for the security of Cuba- AtaH-events.
to the part
of hercdrmnerce might prevent her from remaining
j passive in the -event of any pressing danger, she
j would greatly prefers direct purchase of Cuba to
involving herself in war wlin England on that ac
count, lie said he fully understood our difficulty ;
that, from the present state of things,, he did not an
ticipate any thing of the kind; that it was but candid
in him to say he could not hold out any prospect at !
present of a cession; that possibly time might bring
it about, Cuba was reported to them as being se
cure, but there was no telling how long it might re
main so. He was pleased to receive my communi
cation ; should treat it as entirely confidential ; and if
any thing should occur to produce a different slate of
things, he should not fail to inform me of it.
The above is, in substance, what transpired. I
did not deem it prudent to urge the matter farther at
this time, but shall not fail to keep myself fully in
formed of everything which may occur, and should
I see the least prospect of success, shall, of course,
avail myself of it. A
You may possibly see in the English papers some
reference to the relations with Spain, and the anxie
ty on the part ot the latter 10 have these matters ac
commodated. I doubt if this be so. At least I am
certain Gen. Narvaez has manifested no anxiety on
the subject. Senor Mon has just come into the cabi
net as Minister of Finance. He is the brother-in-law
of the Minister of State ; is the peculiar friend and
partisan of Christiana ; is reported an honest man,
and, from his character, is likely to improve the mon
eyed matters of the country.. The calculation is that
he and Narvaez may not continue to act very long
with much harmony. - I doubt if he is likely to con
tribute any thing to my success in regard to Cuba.
I have received from the Minister of State the note,
a copy of which I enclose, inviting me, as you will
see, to be present at the accouchement of the Duchess
of Montpensier. As I found most of the diplomatic
corps intended going, I deemed it proper for me to
accept, and shall go off within a few days. This
nay seem rather a ridiculous matter to us, but, as
you know, is considered a necessary ceremony among
ihe regal families of Europe. I have been given to
understand my prompt acceptance was quite gratify
ing, both to the Queen and her mother. I trust,
therefore, in the absence of any direct instructions,
the President will approve of my course.
I am, sir, very respectfully,
R. M. SAUNDERS.
James Buchanan, Esq. &c. &c.
Mr. Saunders to Mr. Buchanan.
Legation or the United States,
Madrid, November 17, 1848.
Sir: There appeared in the New York Herald of
the SOlli October a letter purporting to be from a
Madrid correspondent, and to have been wxitien by
an American. It reflects in no very polite terms on
this legation, and refers to negotiations which the
writer assumes as pending for the cession of Cuba
to the United States. These statements, with the
editorial of the Herald, have been copied into the
English and French papers, and, as you will see from
the enclosed articles, have been noticed by the press
here. I deemed it proper to call on the Minister of
Foreign Affairs, and to assure him the matter had
found its way into the press without any authority
from any thing done or said on the part of myself or
tne aecreiary 01 mis legation, fie said he had no
suspicion ot any thing ot that kind, but supposed it
a trick of the newspaper editors, or of some one, for
the purpose of mischief; that it was somewhat an
noying, as it was calculated to produce a bad effect
in their colonies.. I assured him I had taken steps
to have the matter set right at home, and to find out,
if 1 could, the author of the letter. He expressed
himself as satisfied, and the matter dropped. You
vill see, from the articles enclosed, the spirit in
which the question of the cession is received, and
the feeling of the public on the subject. It is cer
tain they regard Cuba as their most precious gem,
and nothing short of extreme necessity will ever in
duce them to part with it. 1 here are some state
ments in the publication which I feel called upon to
notice. But it is utterly untrue that I have ever
found it necessary to consult any one unconnected
with the legation, in my intercourse with the Gov
ernment. On the contrary, most of the Secretaries
of Foreign Affairs since my being here have spoken
Lnghsh, and 1 have at no time been embarrassed on
that account, as the Under-Secretary is a good Eng
lish scholar. So the statement does great injustice
to Ar. Sawyer, as he is a good French scholar, speaks
it well, and" is fully qualified to converse in and to
translate the Spanish. I regret to say these refer
ences, with other allusions in the letter, have excit
ed my suspicions as to the author. In this I may be
mistaken. I deem it proper to inform you, as the
letter refers to negotiations which the writer says
(00k place during the mission of my predecessor, I
felt at liberty to write to Mr, Irving, requesting him
to say to Mr. Bennett the statements in the letter
were false, andto endeavor, if practicable, to find
out its author. You can, therefore, if you should see
fit, communicate direct with Mr. Irving, or await his
answer to my letter. If my suspicions as to the au
thor ot the letter shall prove to be well-founded, he
certainly deserves to be exposed ; if unfounded, then
it will give me pleasure to have them removed .
I have had no encouragement to renew the subject
in regard to Cuba ; so far as I have been able to col
lect the opinion of the public, it is against a cession,
and I do not think the present Ministry could or
would venture on such a step ; both Pidal and Mon
are against it, and Narvaez says nothing.
X am, sir, very respect. ully,
R. M. SAUNDERS.
James Buchanan, Esq., Secretary of State.
Mr. Satmders to Jlr. Bucianan.E.xtvact.
Legation of thc Umitep States,
Madrid, December 14. 1848.
As I considered this a favorable opportunity tp re
new the subject, I remarked to the Minister he must
excuse me for again calling his attention to the mat
ter of the cession of Cuba ; thai an impression had
heen produced in the United States, in consequence
of some recent publications on the subject, that Spain
might be induced to make the transfer, if terms suf
hcently liberal should be offered ; and I desired to
know if he was willing to hear any thing further on
the question. He answered, he had understood, from
a former conversation on the subject, that 1 had not
been instructed to make any direct proposition tor the
cession, but was authorized 10 enter into negotiation
whenever it might please her Majesty to signify her
wish to do so. In the mean time, the President was
satisfied to suffer things to remain as they were, so
long as Cuba should pontluue under the dominion of
Spain. With this understanding, my communica
tion had been well received, and was entirely satis
factory ; thai, so understanding me, he had felt au
thorized to give a direct denial to the publications to
which I had referred, and had so instructed the dif
ferent agents of the Government ; that he wished the
matter thus to stand, as it would enable him to give.
in a satisfactory way, any explanations which might
be demanded by the Cones. 1 replied he had . cor
rectly understood, me, and I had so reported to my
Government, and had since received the President's
approval of my course ; that did not now design to
make any proposition, as had received rio new in
structions; but my object was a simple inquiry, to
enable me to learn acd to state whether any terms,
however liberal, would induce her Majesty to make
the cession. -
He answered, he fully appreciated'my motives, as
he had seen the statement in the papers, and could
answer most positively " that it was more than any
Minister dare to entertain such proposition ; that he
believed such to be the feeling of ihe country, that.
sooner than see the island transferred to any Power,
they would prefer seeing it sunk in the ocean." 1
replied, 1 was. happy to nna ne understood my mo-
lives, and after ins positive and candid avowal, I
certainly should pot again renew the subject, unless I
should be specially invited to do so. 1 was fully
aware of this being an unpleasant subject with the
Ministry; that they had been much annoyed by the
recent publications; but as 1 had heard from private
sources that an improper impression had been pro
duced in. the United States, in consequence of, tho
articles in, the New York Herald, and that I had
been charged wjtlt inefficiency in failing to press the
mailer wiih sufficient energy ; and as I was anxious
to vindicate myself against such an imputation, and
to justify the confidence reposed in me by the Pre
sident, 1 felt authorized to renew the conversation,
which ended in a way, a&l think, to the satisfaction
of the Minister. ' I had made it my business Jo in
! quire, in a private way from those ( knew to be
friendly to the annexation of Cuba to the Unjted
j States mibt greatly embarrass her as
which she, as a neutral, might find it r
.take ijhat, whilst self-preservation and t
1 of her rdmmn micrht ictmi hxr frnm
j Sutes, what they thought to he- the publie feelin?
on the subject, and theyjhave uniformly given me
same answer; and that was, that the nation would
not sanction the measure: that the general belief was,
whatever jsum might be paid fer the cession, it would
not go to the relief oV the nation, but would be seized
upon; by itrose who might happen to he in pewer.
And these remarks were always made under the
strictest injunctions of secrecy, as the individuals
were most anxious to conceal the fact that they were
friendly to annexation.
I Hatter myself the President wm not aisapprove
of what I have felt myself called upon to do, as ihe
matter is now placed hejond all misippreheniion,
and will be fully understood in future. 1 might,
indeed, have manifested a more active and zealous
importunity ; but it would have been that pressing
importunity alike wanting in dignity and unautho
rized by usage, and which certainly was not becom
ing a question of this character. I was satisfied a
direct proposition would have been met with a flat
rejection.and might have left a bad impression; where-
as the communication was well received, and may,
in the end, produce a good effect. For the present I
am well convinced, such is the temper and feeling of
the nation in regard to the matter, that it would not
have been within the power of the most skilful di
plomatist to have commanded success and it is be
cause ot my conviction that nothing is to be effected
on either of these important subjects lhat am most
anxious to close my mission and to return tomy own
country. And, as this is likely to be tho last com
munication which I shall have the honor to make you
on this interesting subject, I avail myself of the oc
casion to renew to the President my grateful ac
knowledgments for the high confidence reposed in
me, and to express my deep regret lhat il. has. not
been in my power to add to the other important mat
ters which have marked his Administration as one of
the most distinguished in the annals of 'our country."
1 remain, sir. with hnrh respect and. esteem, your
obedient servant, "
K. M. SAUiNUKUS.
James Buchanan, Esq., Secretary of Slate.
Removal Cabinet Meeting.
Washington, Nov. 29. Fourteen of about
clerks who have been engaged for two or three years
past compiling an index to claims, were uiscnargea
to-day byMr. Forney. The reason assigned was
the completion ot the work, but we are intormeu
enough remains to be done to have employed them
through the winter.
Among the arrivals to-day are Senators Rusk and
The cabinet is in session and likely to remain so
until a lata hour.
Great. Depth of Snow.
Buffalo. Nov. 27. The 'steamer Northerner came
down from the Sault Se Marie, last evening, with
the crews of the crafts on Lake Superior. They re
port five to seven feet of snow about Ontonagon, and
a foot deep at Sault Ste Marie.
In this City, on Wednesday evening lasty by the
Rev. T. W. Tobey, of the Baptist Church, Mr. Jef
ferson Fisher to Miss lulia S. Clarke, daughter of
the late William F. Clarke, Esq.
On the 23d, inst, by Rev. P. H. Joyner, Doet.
James E. King, of Western Texas, to Miss Lucy
James, daughter of James Harrison, Esq. of Nash
Co. N. C.
WAUBEJUO:"! MALE ACADEMY.
rTTHE Trustees of the above institution are happy to
I inform the public that they have secured the servi
ces of Mr. Willux MtsHEE, of Petersburg, Va., s
principal of the Academy. Mr. Maghee is a fine schol
ar, an experienced and skilful instructor of youth, and n
gentleman of high character for virtue, morality and pi
ety. He brings with him a high re commendation from
men of standing and intelligence in the town of Peters
burg, where he is well known. Mr. Magliep will he aiJ
ed in the department of Mathematics and natural Phil
osophy by Mr. Algernon Batlc, who has been a student
at the University of Virginia, from which institution he
brings sufficient testimonaU of his qualifications. ' Mr.
Batte has had the advantage of several years experience
The next session of the institution will commence on
the second Monday in January next. Board can be ob
tained on reasonable terms either with the Principal of
the Academy or with Benjamin E. Cooke, Sr., a mem
ber of the Board of Trustees.
Terms $15 per session for Latin-scholars j $12 50
per session for English scholars. An extra charge of
$10 will be made against each student who may take
lessons in natural philosophy. Each scholiir will! be
charged one dollar during tho Fall session and two dol
lars during the Spring session, for tucl.
W. N. EDWARDS, Prcs'nt.
Decemlr 1st, 1855. 6 5w.
PLEASANT GROVE ACADEMY,
Franklin County, N. O.
"TfHE exercises of this School will commence on Mon-
day, tho 3rd of January next, under the charge of
Mr. A. Davis, a'gontlenian of several years experience
as a teacher. The Academy is situated about a half mile
from the old Midway Academy, ecui-distant from Lou-
isburg and the Shpcco Springs, in one of the most heal
thy sections. of the btate.
This institution is preparatory to any College the stu
dent may prefer. The rooms will lie neat and comfor
table and every facility aflorded the students to enable
them to pursue their studies. Board can be had with
either of the subscribers and Mrs. Elizabeth Branch, at
$7,00 per month. No extra charge for lights.
- English Branches $10 per session,
Languages $15 per session.
W. J. BRANCH,
JOHN J. JONES.
THOMAS A. PERSON.
NATH'L. H. MACON.
Nov 8, 185?'. fi 4w.
The Register and Spirit of the Age copy three times
and send accounts to this office.
'. - '
rppKE undersigned has purchased the interest of the
-M- heirs and next of kin of Charles Kennon, deceased,
formerly of Wake county, in tlje estate of said Charles,
consisting partly of a number of negro slaves, some of.,
whom he has now in his possassion. There are Olivers
ol said negroes who are parsing as free. All persons arc
warned agiiipst harboring them, or aiding them toe6cape
from the State, as they will be made answerable to thc
law, a"d held responsible for damage.
JOHN C. MOORE.
Raleigh, Nov, 30, 185.2. 6 tf.
8TILL THEY 01E. .
RECEIVED this day at EVANS & GOOKE'S a
beautiful assortment of DcLaines, Mack and colored
Alpaccas,EngIish Merinos, Black Silk Cashmere Shawls,
Plaid do. black and colored Braids, a few pieces silk I.sce,
chi. StQcUings. a good assortment of men's wear, Ken
tucky Jeans, Satinets, black Union Cassimere, Striped
Cottons Also, one case Brogans, good article. '
Come take a loot-, -
At EVANS & COOKE.
No. 33, Cheap ide
Dec. 1st, 1852. ' C
iVolice. . I
PERSONS indebted to the late';fiiin$jf; W. G. B.
H. Freeman are requested to come forward and set
tle, as the money belonging to the firpi, and which ought,
in good faith, to bave been applied to the payment of the
firm debts, bas heen loaned out by Cucien BaUlc, Admin
istrator of the Estate of B. H. Freeman ; cousequently
the firm liabilities are unliquidated; due and u,onld( and
further indulgence capnit he given.
VM. G. FREEMAN,
-,; .-"Surviving Partner.
NasUville, N. C, Dec. 1, 18.Y2. 849 wtfl
NOTICE TO CAPITALISTS.
A CITIZEN- of this State wishes, to obtain, for a
,tcrm of years, a loan of $10,000, interet to be
punctually paid either annually or semi-annually as may
he agreed upon, 'Security to be given that will be per
fectly atisfactary. Any person desiring to niak a safe,
investment of the amount named, will address " Gulick
& Kichardson, Gpldshorough. N. C-," Publishers of the
Republican and Patriot,' lor lpruier ituorroaup.
Goldsborough, Nov. 27, 16j2.
.TVRIME. Goshen JJutter and
B'.irkwkrat Flour. A
. supply just to hand
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