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THE LYNCHBURG VIRGINIAN.
BY FLETCHER & TOLBIi. L, LYNCHBURG, V A. MONDAY. DECEMBER It tm VOL. VIII.—NO. 85.
TERiWM*
.. .1 annum. payable )n advance—No snb
TT I or ** I1 received for a le«s time than si* moutlu
.."PIKm .. discontinued (but at the discretion
‘""V"’|l‘iTtmrsiantiUll arrearages are paid.
0,, ,u 1 unfit will lie nmerieil at .r.U cent* per
first time, and .17 1-U cent, tor each
l®'.1 'rkose from a distance must ba paid lor
sanii" i ,nre- insertion,or the payment assumed by
m.iVie p.r.o,,.,,
" " ,1,',ocery Order, not exceeding two sqanrosare
irii»d lof #K dnilar**
til letter* addressed tolhe Editors must be posl
fa „rtlo v>v''lootbeaite,ided to- ^
mTOTICE — By virtue of a trust ilevt made
^ bv lboma* Aldridge, in which Hill I nner
.-trustee. hearing datellie fill. day ol Ocr. 1821,
lld of record in the county court of N.'lsou,
n l«Lo hv virtue of a trunt tlecd ma.lu hy
\l ore F"t'a'ier. in which Sterling CTaihorne
iVtruali'e, hearing date the 2t"h day of March
l ,J7 and el»o recorder! to. county court ot
Nvl.on end by virtue ol a I rust deed made by
( harles U. < orler heftring dole the 20il. day ot
March 1827. t« which Hill Farter and Rielnml
N Katiank are trustee*, n hich deed is also re
corded in Nelson county conn— by which stud
deedr, the makers re.peclively convey to the
“ind trustees respectively fur the |im poses let
forth in Ihe stud deeds, their ••v.thI ood respeo
,„e interests m the estate known bv the name
,.f \\ a|nut Grove, situate in the county ol Nel
t„n and containing about MOO acres, and
tti. tr respective interests in Iti negro slaves,
ittached to ttie estate. The undersigned trustees
wdl, on list 15tli day of December nest, oiler
|ur sale, al the Mansion House on sa il Iracl ol
land, in the highest bidder, the interests of saul
..nines, ill the said Inud and slaves—Hie interest
ol said Aldridge, being two sevenths, and the
interests of Ihe said Moore ami Flurries being
each oue seventh. The land will he sold on a
atdil of one, two end three years from the 1st
day ol Ian. l»3t>, ami possession delivered on
Holiday. The negroes will he sold on a ctedit
of one year. Bund and satisfactory security
will he required for Ihe negroes, aiul hand ami
0 deed ol trust from tlilic purchaser ot the land.
It is believed that the persons ow ning the
reaming three-sevenths of tint eMW**, will, on
,l,e d..y of sale, consent to s« II their interests in
die same way, and on the same terms proposed
by ihe trustees ill this advertisement.
Ilu- node.signed will convey only such title
es the said deeds of trust authorise! hem.
HILL CARTER, Trustee in the deed
made by Thomas ftldriilge.
STERLING CLAIBORNE, Trustee
in the deed made by Moore F Carter.
IIII.L CARTER, fTrns
RICHAUH N. EUBANK, M*’rs
under the deed umde hy Charles C Carter.
Nov. 12___t,|>2t>
Fall and Winter Goods.
fWl 11 Fj subscriber* having now received the.
8. greater part ot their FALL and WLN
It.ti GOODS, respectfully invite tl»«ir custom
er, and purchasers generally, to examine their
present extensive a sortment. In the Fanci
1 ink, they have the pleasure of offering, al lire
in isi moderate pi ices, the following :
Superior black IihIihii Lustrings
Richest blk. Satin Levantine*
Blk., and blue hiack tiro de iNap ~ ilks
Blk. l or lied Gro dc Zauns, « n»*w tu title
Printed Ball'-esse, various shades and figures
Rich figured Isuiarinet, extremely cheap
bHUiis, Mod«*s and Florences, every shade
tiro de Nap Silks, every shade
Parisian Plaid Gro de Naps, new itv!e
A few pieces Nankin and Canton Crapes
Calicoes, an extensive and l»eani:f il assortment
Blk. Circassians and Bombazines
Ladies1 steel mixed Habit Cloths
London brown and imperial blue Pelisse Cloths
Blue ami scarlet Merino Cloths
'1 amhoied Book Muslins, richest figure*
Plain, Siiisg and Book do
0 1 and6-4 Jhi *iiets and Cambrics
A levy pieces 5 4 Medium M'»*5ins, t-degant
4 4, 5-4 and 5 4 Thibet Sliawls
Merino Look Sliawls, fust order
Embroidered Paris ('rape Shawls add Scarfs
Pilmerine and Silk Shawls
Lice Capes, Collaret** and Pelerines, sple.ulid
Decoupe and Barege Dress Shaw ls
Artificial Wreaths and Bones
4-4 and 5 4 Bobbinet Laces, plain and figured
1 bread and Bobbinet Edgiugs
Richest Brussels Laces
.Silk and Bobbinet do. lian(Loine>t style
Bobbinet Luce Veils, white and black
1 ine Lawns, ami Linen Cambric Hdkfs.
Colton ,Silk and Worsted Hosiery, a lull assort
meat
Fine, ami supeifine grass bleached Irish Linens
A few pieces superior Thread Gatnhricks
A beautiful assortment new vlylt Bonnet Rib
bon*
A variety of richest embroidered Bell Ribbons
Ladies’ embroidered Mitts and Horse Skin
Glo\ es
A few boxes fancy Cap Ribbons
Wide Lustring Ribbon-, solid colors
Ladies’ and Gentlemens' black and white Silk
Gloves
‘lain white Merino Cloths, a new and beautiful
article
l case fashionable Leghorns, &c. JLc. &ic.
STAPLE GOODS.
V few pieces extra fine Eng. Cluth?, blue ami
black
An elegant assortment fine Si. superfine English
Cloths, including blue, black, olive, steel
mix, and every fashionable -bade
Super double milled Drab Coatings
fine and supeifine blue and black Cassimeres
A few pieces super Drub, do. double and single
milled
Superior black, and blue black Silk Velvet
Marseilles, Swinsdown and Valencia Vestings
Scotch Plaids aim Cambists
A few pieces extra Manchester Cords
A case tancy colored Satinets, finest finish
Several cases medium do.
Several dales heavy Point Blankets
A large supply English Du fife I Blankets
(Red Snipe) the largest and cheapest ever
known
Fine and medium flannels of every color
Oreen Serge and Booking Bailee
several pieces in grain Carpetings, handsomest
figures
3 4 and 4-4 brown and bleached Domestics
d-4 and 4-4 Plaid do. ivdigo blue
fc 4 brown and bleached Waltham Sheeting
1 hale superioi unbleached Sen hlund Shirting
A f?w pieces 5.4 real Ru*-ia Sheetings
Plaids and plain Lindseys for servant’s wear
several bales double milled Army ( loths
Double milled Napl C ottons, No 1 t* 5
A full assortment Spun Cotton, &C. kr. &c.
DAVID & ROBERT KYLE.
Oct. 15.
PtcuVnmv WUitfc \ievu\.
XJ®OW opening a large supply of Premium
JL'J White Lead, in Oil. Also, a large supply
of white Leail iu Oil, No. 1, together with eve
rv other color in Oil, niui dry, all of which are
offered at the lowest prices.
HOWF.f, DAVIES.
~~7 CALICOES.
MALL f iguie, a fashionable aiticle, with
200 pieces dark Winter Prints, at prices
most alluring. McKEE, ROBINSON &. CO.
Nov, £5 is
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*OETRY.
T r I he following illusion is copied in Ike
Essex Kegistei, lio:n9.t inanusciipt hook of Po
ems, written by a young man under confine
ment in the Massachusetts State Prison.
The ex'iuct ditcover* a native genius, for whose
equal we may look in v.iin in uur magazines
| and annals, and. we may add, m the page of
stnne|of those whom the wot Id, tor a brief space,
bus consented to call iinnmr al. It is represented
that the young man, pm tout to his imprison,
ineiit, followed the occupation oi a seaman, and
has never enjoyed the advantages of education
We hope, for die honor of Iuiiii.mi nature, that
the art which led to bis impn. onrnent wits onti
wiili which hi' heart held no conmiunion. 1 In
spirit which indited the following lines. could
not hi* wholly lost to «it file,and we trust ilspos
sessor huicalter will use it in a luunner worthy
the gilt.
TO THE SOUND OF A DISTANT BELL.
Again that sad and solemn tone—again that
thrilling swell,
Those sounds create a paradise within my drea
ry cell— „ *
flirh with thw ihougblM of other vents their mu
sic rushes on,
And glads my heart, when every joy but mem
ory ib gone,
Again, again—ye ti ll of tlavs, when innocence
w us mine,
When I mu infaiil (enUril clung anil ml my par
ent vine,
When of religion’s pure delights my mother
loved to tell,
And bade me list thy imleinn voice—thou sad
ami suothing null.
Te spe; k cf g'orious tinasports that my boyish
tx»bom lired ;
When ray proud Country’s victories, your peal
ins tongue inspired ;
When mid « nation's re veil in, my youthful
shout | gave.
And burned to swell the wurnor ranks, or fill a
wairior s giuve.
i Once more—and cnll the worahip’d dead to her
lost lovei ’.•» sole,
That beau e<mis one who living would have been
my wretched bride,
Shroud with thy mild and balmy torn1, the
g onus of her despaii,
When she sees her branch of promise withered,
desolate add bare.
No more—my soul all overwhelmed, no more
i an bear thee now,
A freezing horror chills my heart, and lightning
bin ns my brow —
To heai the sounds that bleat my youth, now
like a funeri I knell,
King lo tin buried joys and hopes—a deep and
lust farewi I
VIRGINIA CONVENTION.
AIR MADISON'S SPRKCfl.
Wednesday. Dec. 2.
Air. Madison io»e, and addressed the Corn
miner in a speech, of which, Ihe following is
the outline and substance ;
Although >he actual posture of the subject
before (he Committer, might admit 11 loll sur
vey of it, it is not my purpose in rising, to en
ter into the wide Held ol discussion which has
celled forth a displayed intellectual resource, is.
varied powers of eloquence, that any country
might tie proud of—aud which I have witness
ed with the highest grnulicalion Having!
been, lor a very long period withdrawn from j
any partiupalion in proceedings of deliberative ,
bodies, and under oilier disqualifications now, |
ol which I am deeply sensible, though perhaps j
less sensible than others, limy perceive that I
ought to be, I shall not nltempt mure than a
few observation*. **'Weh at y sugs'*1 |lle vie''s
I have taken of (lie subject, and which w il
consume hot little uf the time ot Ihe Cuniimt
lee, now become precious. Ii is su.'iicieutly
obvious that Persons and Property are lilt. t«’o
great subjects on which govern meals are lo ,
act—and lhat t he rights of persons, and the
rights of property, arc the objects Ibr the pro
lection ol which government was instituted,
i'hcse rights cannot well he scpcraied. the
personal right to acquiie property, which is a
natural right, gives to properly, when acquir
ed, a l ight to prelection, as a s icial right.
I he essence of government is power—and
power, lodged, us it must he in human
hands, will ever tie name to aouse m
archies, I tie interests ami happiness ol nil may
he sacrificed lo the CH|«ice am! passimis ol a
despot: In aristocracies, the right* and wel
fare ol the mmy may be sacritu d to Hi • pride
and cupidity ol a few : In republics, the great
danger is, that the majority may it t saflUr ut
ly respect the rights of the minority. Some
gentlemen, consulting the pun y ami generost
I, of their own minds, wittmtu advrfhiig lo
,l,e lessons of experience, Would find a security
against the danger, in our social leelmg—m a
respect for character—in I lie dictate* ol the
monitor within : in the iui rests of individuals : !
in the Hggrenatc interests of the community.
But man is known lo hi* a selfish, as well as a !
social being. Kespect for tharac er, though
oltcu a salutary restraint, is hoi too olfn ovei
mlfcil by other motives. U hen numbers ol
meu act in a body, respect for character is j
often h s .jost in proportion ns it is necessary
to conn ol vtoial is uol nglil : We all know
Ihai conscience is not a sufficient safeguard, j
and besides, that conscience itself may be do j
lulled—may be misled by an unconscious hi- J
as into acts which an enlightened conscience |
would forbid As to the permanent interest ot j
individuals ill the aggregate inteicsls of the
community, nml in the proverbial maxim that
honesty is the hesi policy, present temptation j
is too oftau found to be an overmatch for those ;
considerations. These favorable attributes of;
II, ,. human character are ail valuable, as auxil
iailei—but they will not serve as a substitute
for the coetcive provisions belonging to gov
ernment and law. They will always, in pm
poriinu as tliev prevail, be favorable to a mild
administration ol both—but they can never be
relied on as a guaranty of Hie light* ot the
minority agam.i a majority disposed to take
! unjust advantage ol iis power. 1 lie only ef
fectual safeguaid to the rights of the nimoiHy ■
must be laid in such a basis and structure ol j
me government itself as may atlord, in a cer
124111 degree, directly or mdireclly, a defensive !
autholity in behalf of a minority having righe
on its side.
To come more nearly to the suly-ct before
the Committee, via : that peculiar feature m
! our community, which calls for h peculiar dv
; vision in I lie basis of our governinent, t mean
! ihe coloured part of our population s It is «p
prehended, il the power ol the Commonwealth
shall be in the bands ol a majority who have
no interest in this specie* uf property,that from
the facility With which il may be oppressed by
excessive taxation, injustice tuny be done to
its owners. Il w nul l seem, therefore, it we
can incorporate that interest into the bast* ot
out system, it will be the most apposite and eh
fectuul etcur ity that tan lie dev ised Such Bn
I arrangement is recommended m me by many
j very important consideiaiiuii*. ii „ due ii>
justice: due to hunianily : due to imili : to
lh« sympathies ol our nature ; m liar, to nut
I character as a people, boili abroad and at
home ; dial they -Imutd he considered,us much
I as possible, its Ihe light ol human hriugs, ami
j nor as mere property. At such, they aie uc
led upon hy our laws, and have an uileivst m
, our law-, lliry may he considered as making
! 11 l>»". though a degi ded part, of ihr In mi 11 r a
(low Inch Ihey In long
If ihey hud Ihe complexion of the Seifs in
the North of Europe, or of Ihe vdlctiii burner
ly in England, in oilier trims, if they were of
I our own complexion, much nl ihe ilitliciilty
I Would he removed, llui ihe mere circum
1 dance of complexion cannot deprive them of
Ihe ehniai lei ol men Ihe Kcdeial uumtiei,
as ms called, is panicularly lecomuiended lo
alii in ion in Mu tiling n ha-.,'of npiicnialion,
by '"> simplicity, iis i eiiaiuty, us stability, and
iis petinuoency . Oilier exp. dimls fursciunug
justice in the case ol'tnxaiiou, while they a
iiiounl in pecuniary effect, in the same thing
have bi t'll found liable lo great objections ami
I do md believe dial a majority ol ilns (.'ont en
lion it di posed in adopt them, if they can find
a substitute ihey can approve. Nor is ii a
small recommendation of the Eederal number,
to my view, mat ms hi conuirmi;y In the ratin'
recognized in the Eederal Cousdliiiiun. The
castib, ii ia Hue, ar<? not precisely the knnir,
but ihere i- more ol analogy than might a' first
be suppos'd. It die i oluiiied populalioit were
equally iliilosed through die Stale, tin* aaabigy
»• old lad — bid existing, as it doc.,, to largo
musses, in particular parts of il, Ihe di-tiucliun
between llm ilifTcuiil p.ui, oftbe Slab', re-em
blcs Ibul between die sluvr-hnldiin’ mol non
slave-hul.!iug Stales—and, it'we r, jc-cl a due
il no „ indoor own Stale, svlsilst we claim dot
benefit ol it in out rclaliont to other Slates,othei
disagreeuhle consequencesinav he added to ilia
c haigeol inconsistency,which will he brought a
gainst iis. Il llie eiamiilti ol our si lcr Soil, is lo
have weight, we find that in t; orgia the fed
era! tiuinher is made ihc basis ol rcptesetiiafioii
in both branches of their Legislature : and I do
not Irani that any dis ntisl ction or inconve
mnice has llowtd from its adoption. 1 wish Wi*
could know more id the manner in which pur
lieu ar or^antJtntiiMid Ol government operate 10
other^pnits • fthe United Slut* s. Tlieie w uld
he 1* S3 danger ol being milled into eiror, and
we should have the advantage ol their expert
ence as well as oui own. In the case, I mention,
Iii* ie cun, 1 believe, be no error
Wbi'tliei, therefore, vve tie fixing a basis of
representation, for the one biaecli, or flicolhei
of our Legialutui e, or for both, n in a couiiii
nati.iii with othei principles, the led* r*tl ratio
is a (uvoti'ife reiomci* with me. It mteieu
into my earliest vitWs of the subject, before1
this Convention whs assembl d ; Jmd i hough
l have kept my mind op n, have listened to
every proposition which has been advanced,
and given to them ail a candid consideration.
I must say, lha: in my j lUginent, we -hail act
wisely in pie fen mg it to others, which huvi
been brought before u Should the Fedetat
iiumbei be made to enter into lliw hast ol olie
branch ol Hie Legislature, and not into the
other, such an arrangement 111144lit prove
favouiable to the slave*themselves. It may f e,
and I think it has been, suggested, that those
who have themselves no »ot* iest m tins fp- cies
of property, are apt lo sy mpaihy se with the
slaves, more than may be the case with lion
IIIHSO r ; and vv mid, therefore, be disposed,
when they had the ascendancy, to protect
them from laws of «*n oppressive character :
whilst the masters, who have a common inter
est with the slaves, against undue (Aiulion.
which nm*t I**' paid out of tneir labour, will
be their protector* when they liave (tic ascen
dancy.
The Convention Is pqw arrived at a point j
where wt. must agree on some common ground, 1
all sides relaxing 10 their opinions 1101 chaug j
ing,—but mutually surrendering a pari of them i
In IrHiuio ; a Constitution, gn .it dfficullies are !
necessarily to be overcome : and nothing can j
ever overcome them bill u spirit of compio- |
mise. Othei nations aie implied h( nothin" j
so much as our having been able to form Con
stitutinns in the maimei which has been exem
plified in t!ms f'oui try : l iven 'Ii*1 union ofsomany
Slates, in the eyes ol the world a wunder ; the
harmonious cstat li.-h-mcnt of a common govern
incnl ove' n* A miracle. I cannot bui
f! liter n.'VRflf that, witimut a miracle, we shall
he able 10*111 range all d flic u lilts. I never have
Je.puirrd : nutwitil'laml'i'if nil the llirratenm;
appearance* we hare passed llirough. 1 have
now more than a hope,—-« consoling cnnfi
deuce,—(l.at we shall al Iasi fid I hut our la
bums have not been in v.iu
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Wednesday Dec 2.
The Convention HS'etiibleil at il o'clock, and
was opened with prayers by lhe ltev Mr.
Parks—when ihe President took the Chair
The Convention resolved ilseil into the Com
mittee nf the Wliok on the Cnnslilution—Mr.
Pleasants in the Chair
Mr. Leigh rose to address the Coinmitee in
mninuatiun of his aiguinenl commenced on
Wednesday
He began with rematking, that he should pro
reed to do that which he propo-cd to do when
ho asked Ihe Committee to rise on the pre-i
vinos day. It was a main part of his present
put pose to exhibit the diffetent propositions
that have been submitted, that the ( ornutit j
tee may have an oppor unilC'to compare 'he |
various projects with each other, and seethe
application of each to the various divisions ot
the Stale nod their different interests —
He would, if he did not know it to be utterly
vain, address himself particularly to Hie
Western delegation, and make Ihe attempt at
least to convince them that he meant nothing j
but the utmost impartiality hv the scheme j
which be had proposed and here advocated—i
but aflet what he had heard and seen here, and
vslint lie had observed by conversation with
thorn gentlemen, he knew if to be useless, for I
they imagine that tin re is some fised, nalui.il
inherent, eternal principle ordained by find, lor
lb,- government of tnau,which it would bo im
pious to disturb this being their belief', it .
would be perfectly useless fui any one In ail- 1
dress them, but from what he had observed, ■
it would particularly be so for Inin to do il, mid
this is the strong reason lor the regret hr hud ,
expressed, that he had not heard the tenuuks
and seen the plan of the gentleman Uoai |
Northampton, that lie might ralher have taken
his proposition than his own. What they call l
compromise, is the smrender to them of the
principle of white popula ion in (he lower
house, and Ihe willingness to surrender the
principles of the fedeial basis in the Senate.
He referred to the condensed remarks made
hv the venerable geatleman from Orange [ Hr.
Madison] the day before, and staled, that Ilia
object was not that one body should lie consti
tuted on the federal basis, without saying up
on vv hat principles the oilier I ranch of the
Legislature wa« to be formed— according to the
statement which the newspaper of this morn
ling had made ofit. Mr L contended,that llie
iwo branches of the Legislature, organized
upon different principles, would always be
struggling with each other ; and this was an
objection which could never lie surmounted.
_He then proceeded to examine the various
propositions which had been tradeto the House.
I lie began with proposition *f ihe gentleman
limn Albemarle [Mr (iuritin'J—and tinted,
J Dial il was ,i gienl injection It Ins scheme, lhai
|n made n.i prnv i-mn lor faun' apportionment;
j uni ilia a content a toggle would enttia lor
Ihi't II I ol anew Convention, In teinsdy tile
inequality which would mite nun that circtun.
• lance He examined also the proposition
of Ihe gciilleiiiHii 11•mu iNorihiinpiinii (Mr. I p
ihiir.) which wilt fomidcd in llm number of
1-0 lor the lloiite ut Dclcgaiu, mifend of I'.’ll,
which he said would proiluccHii iucoavaniciit
| orraiigeinc'iu of tor small ■ unities (Mi. II.
tote In eiplaiu, that Ills ul'jec had been to a
. void ail details in !u» plan, uni that lie had a
dupled 1-0, la i huse il s imet in tmllie favorite
| luiiiibei, in Ihe Huote, noil tint he had no ob
i ji'Clioo In change that iitimhtr for the sake ol
| a mote convenient arrangeineiii ) Mi I, slated
til.'ll in the gcneial principlci of Ihe plan, he
might agieewilh the gi'iiileiian from Mortb
nnipluii.
Mr. L pruclU'dod ... the details of
lot own propotilion II. anted particularly
the gruiindt on which lie tint made his appnr
tiunaienl o! the represeuta an vt the dUVeieol
sei turns, in Ihe House ol llilegals*. lie sta
led. that lie had no objacliftii to adopl the
principle ol lne gentleman Irani Nurlhniuplnii
as to the eipansmo ofthe raprrsaiitaitve tvs
*• hi, ni..i f|w. • iiiiiinti ui more new c«»*mtu*ii.
Hr sai l that hmgic.d nlijrct was to Compound
• lirii<• iliiiVieiim. Hi' imagination and Iiih
lic.nt would depict in the darkest colours, the
c<>iiH(piriicus of iIji* state of tilings. I lie di
vision ol lli«* Stile, wn- a gicat evil; und lint
for (he influence • Mhr federal goVnimirut, it
must terminate in a civ if war. lie told llu*
gentlemen ol tin* West, dial tin v on'kt In con
sul.-r the coiMcrpimcrs we'l. I hey said they
will not submit—ai d <io they think tliai wn will
Hultviaii f lint tig nsRim d tin* geiitleim n of llu*
W«,M. that lin y were like!V to lose more tlmo
flit) k><M would. Hr pm lie. ulailv linked the
CutIriMiiti oi tin* Valley, what would hu then
litunlioti hi relation it* the 1 tans Alleghany
country. — Would not Ike Valley, on account of
tlie accumulating propel tv in llmt section, hr
coiiir liahie to heavier taxation ? And would
not tin Vrt Icy lie coiupidlrd to adopt a similar
system to wfitit we iiiiw insist on—ami would
they not p quire a representation founded on
the amount ol tavahon f—.Mr. I,, concluded
will saying, that his feelings were strongly in
favor ol conciliaiiuii.
Mr lyler made some renmikf upon Mr.
Lrigh's .ippordoniueill ill relnti ii to l»i4* din
ti.. i. ii< aid, lie had come here this muriMug
determined to support the principle of the gen
th men from Northampton and <'heater Add,
only with >i larger foundation lie had been
anxious to adopt a system, which would ictnm
eveiy county , and even to entitle the little
county of W ai wicli to a delegate on this floor
Hu tame heir pr* piled to make gnat sau i
fics lor i*oiiei iatimi—•and if he was wi'l
uig to unite Ins .Jntrici m Hus scheme, which
wiuj d ttd' t mote disfra iclmeinru l than any o
ther pn11 of I n* Tate w• mil<i (lo t e Western gen
tleilien he di»po*eil to meet them 1 Mr. I ninth
several reimnks in favor ol intahimg the conn
i v 11 pr sent a i ion • As to Warwick, she hmt
furnished the theme of oratory for niiniy ii
sunup orator; and it was a pity to dttpiive
tiieui of such a fruitful subject of declamation
ilc proiiouuced a vmy handsome eulogium on
tho W ai wicUei s. J ir coiiipai ed her. in point
of lerriioiy, with Nicliwa to the* West ; mid
in respect of the taxes which she paid, with the
counties to the Writ-—not that he meant to
dkpniago Ins brethren of the West, for he fell
like a V irgiuiaii, mnn »ted in every part of tin
blah?—whvthei lie was ot tiic old or the new
Stock, W.i* of Vll > illfia Congeupon tv—ffi
coin hided will) .italiii lliat he sllnul.f soppiul
the prop • lions ol thu geutiemuii from < lin'd
fndu . and 11 iie could 1 » so, lift remarked that
them *n$ lioni Ihe V\ e t c> ituinly could ml
ipiie-ce in them.
Mi foo&e staled the ntiiiieiii al limit* of the
various prop Mliotia which Iptd been inn do —
and cxMiuined the piitirph-s of these plans.
I he plHiij pioposcd h> Mr. i lc nits is found
ed on the white population in the House ol
Delega’es, ami on the 1 < o • I haul in (he Se
iinte, enlarging the iiumhci ol .Senators to d'<
Tliat of tin gentleman from Northampton
founds his system on the three ratios lie esa 1
mined that plan, and contended, that it was
not as favoiaide to the Wild, as (he plan ul
the gentleman from < lie-tci field, g .v mg between
two and ttiree l)«le ates less, ou< ol a House of
i^tV—and is it not a just exception to his plan,
dial lie leaves it entirely lo (in dno retiun of ihe
l.rgislaiut e to apporii n f'uturi lepiepi esentu
t Mill ? Oil'll! not the Sy stem to be called im
pel..lively into eifect ! When the West grows
some id o) 10 years hence, and the l.cgi Intuit:
hi the ex* rcise ol then discretion n fuse the
apportiouinen!, will it not perpetuate the pre
sent injws ice, and file diseonls between the
kh‘t and die Wist i He submitted il to the
genllema frum N.oth unptoii, whether in*
would not amend Ins system in this respect on
a piineiple of cohCMatlwli i And nidus res
peel lie preferred ilia system of the gentleman
from Chesterfield as in ue favorable to the
West, lie asked the'.rentleiinirt from Chester
field, why In* did not my out his pi incipie of
i otnpiiimise :ulo fu'ure limes ; why Iim plan 1
did not contain willmi it elf the prior; pie of j
perpetuity—Might n<> die West several ytais 1
hence contend, tuat theii population had ad
vauced with none > p.dily than that of the
K ist—and that a to w Cmiveiiioii ought then
to ** i ailed to reilr* • the iim qualities created
in I^Ji* .** buppuiv that Id >e;irs hence (to |,*
•mat ii»* fitjouin refuse t cinic those eight j
cuij:ili< * wInch this scheme contemplates, will |
not the Mint effort he made to <n 11 another
Conventimi, and renew those scenes of dupote
ami dhcord, w hirh wo have witnessed for Seve
rn! years past f 11*' naked il the seeds ol di*>
ordvi wo r.* not iIik kly Sow n in il.j* plan 0f
compromise—and il it couM l>«? called a systjni j
of compromise—which allows .*j oths of the i
representation to flu* Lnstern people, with n
temptation eveti to enlarge their own luunh'-r.
Could it bo expected that such a Constituti.n
would be adopted by the* people ? He suggest
ed these remarks with a hope that genii, uteri
would so modify their plans, aw to make I he til
more palatable to the people of the W est.
Mr f i 'hhi sa.d, he had li* ened to the con
ciliatory remark* of the gentleman from Fred*
eriek w it It pleasure. It In: had staled all the
objection* which he had found in his wstetn,
they co»i.u lip easily m iiihvhi Ijy modifying Ins
plan.— lie asked wrhaf sort of a compromise
were gentlemen olfei ing.—Compromise is the
giving up of Something which you possess
.Now, he contended itint the lact whs, that ns
the voti > wen* in the Convention, the Western
gentlemen can cairy the bavin of white popula
tion in the House of Delegates, whereto* they
well know that Die Cast can carry the ledeial
basis in the Semite. What compromise then
do gentlemen otter, when they only offer to
give us the IV- dor a I basis in the Senate, which
we ran get without tin m ? But suppose, what
whs posh.hle, that hy some change of events,
i the large minority in tins House should become
the not) *rity, then gentlemen ought to tie a
ware h ut when such propositions are now of
fered them, they will not be bound to otter any
terms of compromise to ilia West—though he
finely confessed that it wotiid not be desirable
to impose any seve e terms upon them* lie
said, the gentleman had objected to his plan,
embracing three ratios—be attempted to show,
fbnf three ratios would he more advantageous
III the West Htiiii two—hut if gentlemen Were
Hot satisfied with tins, he uni willing to give
• hem a carle btaru he, to sir ike out tit lit r of Iho
th> e i allot I tint they phased, and he would
pledge himself that evety Pat tern member
woiil I support them in it. He then remarked,
that the gentleman from Frederick bed not et
tended Ins calculation* 10 the Senate —lie oh*
served on the objection* of gentlemen, that his
plan did not embrace an imperative i junction
upon the Legislature to apportion the represeu
latian by the future increase of tin* YVett—but
be was perlei tly willing to oblige them in this '
respect — lie would make it impnative uii th1'
Legislature to make this apportionment—•and
he would ae.coidiugty move to stiike out of Iiim
•hi resolution, reading that [“ the Leyulaluie
shall have power to re arrange the represent*
(toll in tmih Homes ol the (inieial Assembly,
once in every years, upon a fail average
of the following ratios' | the words " huvr pow
or to " In tins way, lie satd in* wits prepar'd
to allow his disposition to compinni se subltan
lially whereas gentlemen propuvtd in their
Coin promise to give up nothing winch wii can
not unw get for ourselves A* to future events,
he staled (hat il the West gmw, a« was esprit
ed Ins pniieplc of Nppotti •niiieiit would give
them tfir power ia wuicti tiny **».. i.4»*iy *...<•
tied Mi. U. staled, that in making these pro
positions, lie would it prat with hi* fin nd limn
( tuirles ( Ity, tlud lie looked to (lie <icueial in
terests of the t umirioitwt ulth—and would not
Innk to the irptesenlatioii ol his own county of
Accomac. lie couCluilm with pn venting bis
propotil ion, thus esplatuud, to hn Western
brethren-- and In- would penult them lo strike
I hi otigli tlien pm «it her of the ml ton which they
did not hke
Mr. Dadd rut ay animadverted upon certain
remarks iimde by geuileiiitu uu this floor—
onm had -laid, flint he imd planted hii standard
mi l would uoi submit to Ho principle ol until
her—another, had pronounced it In hr tin
insupportable tvrniiny -and another that if
was rank Jncohmi in. (.Mr Kuiuhdph said
aloud 11 was .lacotiontsiii ) Mi . Ik said thin
wa i undid, and he would ho t ijuully wo - Unit
lie would plant his standard on the liQsitOl
whi'e population in the House of Helegntes
—and allowing the ledcial basis in the Senutt
—11 : would not say, lie would not submit—*foi
it tin* < oiiventiou should adopt a Coiislilitfion
and Hie people should agp'ec In It, lie would
inbuilt lo II. IL* said, gautleiiieii hud wanted
u* nl I Ik? ronscijiicni es ol rcjci i mg ifierir pro
position*, noil lie would n niiiiil gentltiincn.
(li.i li .d sword 11it<I a doiltdo edge. He a»k»*d
w Hi '4ient mist hiuf» were to nine lioiu not
adopting any ( mi dilution * l lie nirmhci
w mid return homo only to live und r Hie
Coovtiiuf ion under which (lie people had*
long lived—a I oiiHlituiioii which had borrow
a*i nil its ineiiualiliith from Him natural course
ol events loi which the gentlemtn ol the Kast
were not m hlaino—« ( nuwtilution, winch had
dr .rended lo them, ami the adv intliiges tprillK
mg from winch were a fair and Irgiiimii « ac
qauitiun Hu', ||< asked, Wliai would he the
witun ioii of the Western liiemlmis, il they re
mii d home with a m w Loiiblilutioii, reeog
ni/i ig ^urh a principle in the llmue of Di li*
<g.il ; as Hie lltcmher* Immi (lie Last l.i ri
contending foi ? 1 iiey would lie censured for
agieeiug to touch a ('oiisiilulioii, and the people
never would assent to it J o such a principle
he would never ague; and he thought it due
lo Ilia ( onveiiiion ho to avow hilllsell.
Mi tlandolpk rose lo espies* his saliflfac
linn and uirpiue, that altar all the compluiuf*
Which the gemlein hi ti om ilf ookv, [Mr. U<nl
dridg J had made ngrtin»t this old (.’oiisiiluimn,
that genllornnii could ai Iasi recancila liiinsell
to live under it. He declined that so *iiongly
iinjirfs*ed whs ha with the opinion Hi.if (In
geiith uiMit Iroui the VV «•»( would jmn all by
carrying the Hoist* «jt If. legates, ho was deter
ni'owd i«» ill I event io vole I n ilie basis ol thr
white population in the Senate, and grant that
I Inn .e ai* » to the gentleman With the House
of Delegate* against tlicin.ul what u»e woulti
he the Senate ? it would not bo flic Balkan—
hut a mere fiiouiiiain of sand.
Mr Coulter real a wiitteti speech to the
roinmittae—declaring Unit he wa*. m luvom
of (lie feileral ha-in dial lie was pet !•'<:(Iv
rmivineed that, uudei ex.sling cii cum <tauc.es,
this measure so plain, nod so easily uudeislood
hy everyone, will reconcile mor© people toil,
on all sides of the qnef<ion, und country, than
any oilier tha' if is now in our powei to adopt
—that flic principle of the i eiololious (ol the
gentleman from Norton mpton) had, therefore,
his hearty approbation and cor !iul suppoii,
“ t*euilemau said lie, have planted then stan
daid. i now plant mine fit inly m Lower Vir
uioia. I think she has Inis, justicc and sound
policy in her lavutir, and much ol the spirit ol
conciliation
I\li. Slanard commented on the calculations
of Mr Co-.ke—and ho contended, that the pro
position ol numbers to no assigned (by Ihe
gentleman from Northampton) to the Lad and
tile. Wes' allow- to the West a greater propor.
lion of Delegates then (ho principle of ifiiilliji
rd rultru would give—cslimaliug the number ol
qualified voters by the number of im {laying
people, siatud on Ilia Auditor’s books, lie fit
led, tha- the combination of Hie basis ot white
population and the f ederal ba is coincide al*
motol precisely wl(b the piiuciple ol qualified
voters. The gentlemen ill the West then in
tiic.i lost nothing by conforming tu Hus combi
nation—thev had only it.Hsiuned the white
population as the exponent of the qualified vo
ter*—mul if this number wan equivalent to thu j
result ol this combination, he .tked the Wcs^
what they were to gain hy rejecting the propot
toition of th* gentleman from Noi th.imp on *
He presented tbese observations to the gentle*
uiiiioflho West in the same spirit which the
ntkiiiHii froyi I redei n:k hud addressed itie
Umnuidto and which had commanded hi«
unfeigned respect Mr. S stated that the 2d
imt,lotion ol Mr l/. did not lolly meet his «p
|n obaiion.—It adopts the number of 30 for the
-finite, but this being divided by 4, dor* not
itliow an equal quotient without .1 fraction, the
turn evpteusing the number ol'yeui 1 for which
the Senator is chogen, prtyeiving ihu present
clHKtiftirftioii of (be body, He huugelf would
prefer 32 for tlie number rd the Senate, a*
Mgning to (be West 13 member*, arid 19 to tins
Katf
Mr, Guidon moved the following as a sub
♦dilute :
hemlvrd, I it at the representation in til*
Senate and House of If* legates of Virginia,
shall be apportioned as follows :
“ There altalI be 13 denature West oftlie
Blue Ridge Mountains, and 13 East of those
Mountains.
'• There shall he in the Hmisn of Delegates
196 members, of whom 123 shall be eleclad
from the disltict West of Ihe Alleghany Moon
tains, 9-1 from the Valley between tlie Allegha
ny and Blue Ridge, 33 from the It I tiu Ridge
to the head of Tide Water, and 34 theuce be
low.’'
Mr. Doddridge enquired if the gentleman
from Albemarle intended to extend bis plan to
future appoitioiimems.
Mr Gordon declared "that it was his wtsh to
avoid that difficulty—as he was satisfied that no
ntlier plan than one similar lo the present,
could receive the suppoil ol a majotily of the
Contention.
Bn Mr. Jolinion’i motion, Mr. O'e resolution
was ordered lobe printed And then th •
Committee rose and the Convention adjourn
ed
TMtmatiar, Mac. 3,
Tile Convention asteuibleil at 11 o'clock, and
was opened wiili prayer by the Rev Mr. Sykef
—whan ihe Pressleni molt the Chair.
Mr. Nicholat, from the Select Committee,
made a rrpofl, concluding with the following
resolutions :
1 That the Convention agree to rereive the
use ol the I’resbylei tan Church on F. Street
upon llio tnrinxslat* cl m the Report of their
Committee, to have been proposed hy the Trus
tees ol said Church
'£. Thatlhe Secretary cause to he procured
and placed in the Presbyterian Church on I
Street, a suitable seal for llie President, and inch
other Allures a* are nenrs-aiy lor the accou •
modntioii of llie Convention
Mr. Afonin moved to lay the report on the
table , winch, alter some discussion, Was a
giend lo—aver 47, lines II
tin Mr. Mnrtit I minion, the Convention re
solved i the 11 Into a Committee ot the Whuli- ...
Mr. Ml on il in the Chair
Mr llunhm lose lo withdraw his proposition
tor tllr pi cselit
Mi juhninn moved to strike out the word
"• -V irom Mr. LTpshnr's resoltstios* —
Me deelared lhal it ha were left the ITmpiio
between the cniiteuding propnsillotie, he should
pieltr llie plan of his adversary—'he lliiiugll it
tiTomiiirniivd pariicularly hv the simpln-ily
which ought to prevail in our governinciil- -
Hoi he hud met wnh no countenance Irom hi.
b lends—-lie was not the Cmpne—fl<- thought
•I"' proper basis was that ol qualified electors
hul it had receivt'd no support lie espresseil
Hi'i opiulmi, Hint llie coniprutrilso most likely
lo ohl in lln- assent ol Ilia majority of the pi n
pie was llo proposition made hy lln- gentleman
Irom I- leili-nrk — lie said, there was a deep
roolril pri jinjica again i mliltitiing the lederal
ham illogi-ihei. lie slnli-d the difference tR
tween llie pi opnsiiioui iit the gvnllaioen ol'
NorOiuinilion and ol Frederick, viz that
though both i oilo.ice the same bases, yet they
were dilVereotly i ninhmi-il. That of the formur
cuiiihoieil t lie influein e ot Inn h mi Inn h hrnnclirs
wherein the luili-i used both the same tmai-s. lint
vepatale trout each hiaiich of Hi - l.egislaliue—
And yet some gentlemen here contend that
Ihere was no compioniise ill (he plan of the
gauilainnii limn Moi ili-uupiou Our npininu
is, lhal iiiiili-i the proposilinii ol the gentleman
from Fiadei ii k, llie inajoiity should |iropose
the law ; il lln- law b u bail one il il ats kes at
lln- rights ol (III- majority, the niioulily will a »
n-sl II in the Holla e. lie comeuded h it 'the
plan ol llie li-daml basis in llie Reualo would
he ellectual in pmleoiiiig llie niinnrily pliat
from ill consliliiiion. il tvnuld have a con trn
ling p wor. — lie conlemlfll Dial llie dniigerst
to he apprelieii'ieit from llie proposlliun ot the
gentleman from Fieiierick wen- esnggemted_
Hul lo this point he hoped, lliat whau-ver p|,,o
of coinin-oinise was adopied, ilia majority of
the ('onven ion would iidopi ii.
!*lr. Mimnall Men addle ,ei| ihe committer
ill mi niguimnialive speech him) most concilia
tory mnnlirr. Me staled the sitoaliun ol tin*
contending parties, and the (dans of Compro
mise which were then I,if,,re Ihriii. lie (talerl
that there were two liases , dial of whim p ,p(l.
Iiitiou and that id federal nunihers—that the
milt difference between the two side* of the
Mouse, now was,whether these two liases should
he kept sepmale, or whiilrr they should l,«
coinhiiird ; whether Ihe while basis should he
iutrilnred into the Mouse «l Delegates and Ilia
fadernl basis into Hie Senate ; nr whethei both
ol tin in should b' iiifiised into bolli branches of
the l.egishilure. He Contended, that if they
were lo lie taken se parately, one pa, ty would
hare the advantage, or Im supposed to liavn
the advantage, over the other—dint il the West
carried the while ham hi ihe House ol Heir
gales, they w odd have in,ire than the lout
would passers in the Senate—and dial Ilia
pi not of this piop i ition would tin louinl in tli'n
fart, that the ill e in tors ot the West Iasi tijd
upon having Ihe Molise of l), le ones upon their
own pttnciple, heeanse they mum tamed it th
ba the in,,si popular, the most influential, and
the m, M desirnhle branch uf die l,egis|a|u, e.
Me Hiked what was compromise 7 whether It
whs not giving nml taking equivalents; and
whether, lh»r, fore, the West could give an
equivalent in the Senate, lo what tliny wished
to obtain for themselves in the Mouse ul Dele
gates 7 Mr M. reminded them ol the stale »t
parties in I lie Convention—Ihat on a former
ocen ion, il wa« true the Western members
had carried their scheme by a majority ol two
vot*--. Imt that the change of a single no oilier,
and the change might easily be brought
about by the change of opinion oldie member
lioiisolt, or the expris ion of a different opin.
ion in Ids district, to which, in obedience to the
republican doctrine of instruction he would
be bound to submit, would produce un v.
qoal division ol 'lie whole body ; lira change of
'wo members would reverse the majority in the
Mouses ; and a similar change was understood
to l,o going on among die people lo Hie Hast of
tlie'Ridge. (.inter such circumdances,What teas
the interest V Hie duly ol both parlies 7 Instead
of either claiming He popular branch ol Ihei.,c3
gislature, (or which the other could furnish no
equivalent, Would not justice dictate that both
parlies should divide both branches between
them ; nml consent to infuse both their tavurilo
branches into both II uses—and such he under
stood lo lie Hie chaiactar of the proposition of
the gentleman Horn Northampton, lie cone lit.
rie l with recommending in ihe most touching
manner a spirit ol conciliation and Compromise
between both parties—and l.e asked, whether
the light which had unco marc beamed upon
them, was the glorious luminary of heaven,
appearing to gladden the polar regions after
Ihe ahsenre of six months, or was it a meteor,
which had burst for a moment upon them tt
dazzle ami (u deceive f
Iho t.ommitlae were respectively addressed
in very animated strains, by Messrs. Mercer,
ami Baldwin, in luvnr of the motion to strike
out, mid by Mr. Leigh in reply 10 those gentle
med. They a I admitted the espcdiency of a
compromise—lull each of them contended in fa
vor of the proposition of their friend. Messrs.
Baldwin and Leigh, in particular, remarked
upon which parly il »i> that hail first advoca
ted the scheme of a Compromise—which Hail
fir«f throw n out the inruaec of a division of the
Slate, and had begun with liatsli and irritating
language towards the oilier—and which would
have the most reason to blame the other, for
the gloomy consequences likefy to result from
the rejection ul their favorite plans. (The dis
cussions drew forth many hue strokes of elo
quence.)
Mr. Juhiison submitted a few remarks upon
what had just fallen from tlm genitrinan Irons
Richmond. He contended that it did not fol
low, because both parties were to compromise
aiyd give up something lo the other, they were
hound to give up exact equivalents ; that he
considered the claim ul the West ns superior to
that ofllie Last, because the former constituted
the majority, and tha latter the minority ; and
the former w ere not therefore bound to give
up as much ns the other : that he really thought
that in yielding the Senate to the basis of lede
ral numbers, the lartnbeis from the West werts
manifesting every species of conciliation and
compromise to their brethrea nt the Last, iia
pre unled a vaiivty of other con-Heialiur*.
The nth Stion was then called f t h unt differ