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The recorder, or, Lady's and gentleman's miscellany. [volume] (Richmond, Va.) 1801-1802, May 05, 1802, Image 3

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• . April if.
By th<- fhip Anthony Mangin, arrived Iyic
*n Saturday from London, v hich place fh<
Jeft March nth, wc have received London
papers to that date-. \ he definitive treaty
Was not figne-J; a categorical artfwcr was to
be given on the 15th. Warlike preparations
were goinjj on in England, fuppofeJ by (bale
as certain indications of approaching hoftility,
and by others ts fteps of precaution. The
moil profound fecreey with which the nc »o
ciations at Amiens is conducted, hides the
enufts of delay, or leaves them to conjecture,
and excludes data by which to judge the ifiuc
of the negotiations: the opinion feerns more
prcviki 1 that the treaty 10,11 net be figned.
Ord> is fur victualling the eharmd fleet for
five months, under Cornwallis, the immediate
failing of ic fail of thr line, &c. have give/i
rile to the belief that the mipiftry do not ex
pect the igning the definitive treaty: fome of
:hc London editors appt.a; rather in the belief
that the wtrlike preparations arc merely cau
tionaiy, and that the negociatians at Amiens
will terminate according to the general willies
of the wm Id.
We fubjoin the remarks of the editor of the
Sun of the nth March.
““ W'c view the fmtation of the country,
at the prefent moment, not as fome perfons do
with tieipondency, but certainly not without
A great degree of anxiety. We are anxious,
not fo much to fee the definitive treaty figned,
not fo much to be nominally at peace With
France, but that vet flioiftd be at peace with a
reafonable hope of continuing fo. The clamor
railed againft the former minifters was, they
did not really wifh for peace—the cry fet up,
amongft fome perfons, againfl the prefejtt is.
that they wifh for it upon any terms, Thefe
accufutions are equally unfounded. If the
prefiure upon the people has been threat, the
eircum ft alters of the times have been unpre
cedcntcd. Not only have we been driven
and forced to war, but no candid man w ill
Confidently fay, that from us commencement
to the prefent hour, we could have doled it
without a facrifiec of our honor and indepen
dence. The fpirit of party we know, has
dictated another language. We have heard
it faid, that it depended upon minifters to ter
minate the war whenever they choic; but this
aifertion is contradicted bv every notorious
fact. The molt favorable opportunity fer
obtaining peace, fince the commencement of
the war, appeared to be that which the prefent'
minifters fo readily feized. We hope they
will obtain it; but fure we are, that they will
do every thing in their power fur that pur- ,
pofe, confident only with the honor and fzfety
or the nation; and if they are requited to fa
crifice thefe, they will be as little ready to con- ,
oede them as the country would be to .iuftifv J
them, if they -v entured to make fuch concef-l
fion. We do not prefume to ftate, with any;
degree of accuracy, what may have palled in
thecourfe of the prefent negociation. It has
been generally unde; flood,'"the two out ft ions
in the preliminaries which remained for dif- !
cuflion, that which relates to the fettlenient of:
the ifiand of Malta,and that which rcfpedb the1’
payment of live expence of prifoners of war,
have not yet been hrought to a point. As to
the firft, any l'ettlement of it, which would in
faft give to France the dominion over it, v.-e
(hc.uld look upon as entirely inconfiftem with
the fpirit of the preliminaries; the other we
confider. as a fubje£t of 1(1? importance; but
it is clear, thar acco-ding to the law of nations,
to which the queftion is" referred, each nation
is bound fo pay the expence of the mainte
nance of its own fubjecls when prifoners in j
an enemy’s country.
Ar, as we have, heard it reported, new pre-1
tenfions have been brought forward, byj
I* ranee, we fliould look upon fucb pretenfion^, i
according ti the nature of them, either as
evidence of infinccriry in the whole negocia
tion, or as urged only to be again conceded as
the price of iome other condition, which it
was the real purpofe of the negociation to ob
tain. If it is the object of Buonaparte to be
acknowledged as president of the Italian re
public, although tec do not think the queiiion
vtTelf ot great confequencc, yet even that
point might be brought forward in fueh a dif
pofttinn as to render it impnfTiblc to concede
it; and it will always be r- collected that there
can be no jufHcc in fuch a propofal, as it is a
title acquiicd by the chief conful fince the
fignatur* of the preliminaries. 7'he quo an
nnc muff be as much the fifbject of conftdera
tfon with.his rr,ajrj!y's miniflcrs, as the mat
ter itfelf Which is brought forward for difeuf
llonm the coufe of negotiation.
But we feel with many of our countrymen
thaf it is effential to our interefts that thenc
gociation fhould not be permuted to continue
to be protradled. I'here can be no fair ground
to lengthen it; and it is evidently dsiadvan
tageous to this country, that it fhould lone
continue in its prch'nt Hate. Minifters we
know ire aware of this, and wc arc fatisfied
that after having given time for the fair dif
cd/Tion of every unfettled point, after having
ode red every arrangement which a fair coi
ilrti6Hon of the preliminaries called upon them
to propofe, tl,ey will infill firmly upon thefe
fair and jurt pretentions, and that much time
wii! >tm tlap/e before tins important queftion
• « biought to a point. \\ e nn^nt have infer
red th-s from their general cLiratter and dif
pofitionH but we have ftronger ground lor
aliening that luch will be their conduct.” |
IN the firft letter, it has been proved t\r
nothing had ocen did in the Recorder which '
cowki be tortured into a reference to the duel j
between Air. Seldom and Skelton Jones.'
1 he paragraph has been . printed ar full i
length, from which this moll abfurd and
groundless siceufation was pretended to be
drawn. It is evident, at the firft glance that
I not ung like lucRan allufion could be traced
! »n «hc whole pa (lag c collcaivelv, nc in any .
branch of .t. You might as Well fearch tor
the Mac F in gal of 1 rumbal in the Fingal of I
Olhan ; or, tor the lev in Champions of Chi if-I
tendom in Simpfon's Euclid.
it was at tuft propofcd to take an oath be
fore a magiftrate with regard to the Wo
lute rnnoctmce of the publiihers of this paper,
as to the tact charged againft them. But 3
judicial oath is always a tranfa&ion offotnc
weight, not only with a man that is religious
out indeed with any man that is tolerably fe’
nous, Upon farther con fide rati on, alto, it
Was moft firmly believed that ftte charge ir
fclt was totally incredible; that a judicial
oaih would only tend to give the tale an
air of . importance; and finally, thdt the
brothers thcmfelvcs, in advancing this im-I
putat?oh, adfed in dvh.rn.ee of their own'
judgement and conviction.
The real caufc of fuch a temped of outrage I
appears to have .been fhortly this. The • b-j
feriber had embarked, about three months'
fincc, in 1 he conduct of a Richmond newspa-j
per. His principles were known to be not1
merely republican, but to he of that fort, :
which invites and challenges tyranny tc |
l.s urmoft, without flinching for a moment’
from the ground that had been taken. On!
this account, it was to be fuppofed that a news-j
paper under the direction of fuch a perfon}.
.would, in the courfe of time acquire ' <-or.-'
ftderable fale, and receive a reafonable /hare of I '
the confidence of Republicans. Theeditorh
was a n'an to whom the caufe was confe/ILd- ‘ ’
ly indebtedfbr fome part of its fuccefs in this!
Itatc. Chancellor Wythe, Governor Mon-! ’
roe, Mr. Jefferfon, Mr. Maui for., and a lone ‘
train of other diftinguifhed and tried ch..reci
ters, had been prompt ,n a^knov/ledginc;- the J
importance of his ferviccs. T v. o of ticker.- 2
tlemen juft named had paid ftjm a in 1
Richmond jail. But, &rabo-e all. the mark- -
ed kindnefs of i he governor lhail nevex, '
be erafed from his memory. More upon: '
tiis fubjeil might be jfaid; but perhaps :V •
would be felt lmornncr, and indelicate. j 1
Air Joj.es, it would feem, apprehended
feme danger or rivaifiiip from <1 o ■■other near ' *
tbs throne. Such a rivalflsipmight have pro-* ^
duced inconvenient effects. Richmond, and*
its range of fubfeription, cannot afford much! 1
encouragement for more than three nev/spa-!
pers. ['he Examiner has twelve hundred '
fuhfcribers, with an iinmer.fc body cf adver
tidements. After making- an exrenfive de
duction for outstanding debts, th; t paper muft
be worth J ur thou fond dollars per annum.
This fa cl may poftibly be denied. The
particulars are capable of demenftration; as *
well as that the office of public printer i/Tiies '
in a finecure of about three thou [and dollars '
per annum.* Upon tbe extent of Mr. Jones'S; .
income, nofccond perfon has., in ordinary cafe-, 1
a claim to criticize. Candour would likewife 1
overlook a folitarv hyfterical paragraph, which 1
bad been wrote, perhaps, on a rainy dev. -
But, when aftuftc'i poverty has been haul* d 2
forward, as a pretence for demanding the moft £
undeferved compaffion, the world has a title ^
to examine the juftice of the complaint.; L
When hypocritical yelping about frrfeeu ion'f
is railed wifh a view to the defamation and.1
the ruin of two honeft men, they muft be j*
pardoned for pulling this impeftor froirihisic
lurking place, and for holding him up to the!
(corn of mankind, in all h s duplicity, and in, '
all his dirt. j;
I he means of accompli thing this generous | "
confpiracy for the extinction of the Recordej:"
was to reprefent the fubferiber, as a trimmer,! n
a rafeal, and a coward; for that is the real; '
object and oftcnc'- of thofc four column6. As!
for any thing which thefe people can fay con*' *
corning my political character, my trimming,! .
my treachery to the caufc of freedom, the*
brotheis are welcome, for me, to biov/the!
trumpet of (lander from she thirty-two points1 ,r
of the compafs to the fartheft extremities of ^
terreftriai fpice.
I fhall, in this part of my defence, begin ?
• vc itli a few words to .'iiclton Jon -s; a . i alter 1
di'patching him, I ftiali p oc cd with I is em
* 441 ftiali c*r,ferry life with as much tian- 1
44 quility as my declining health v/ill permit; '
44 and, in n:y lath moments, lhall be amply con- (
4* fofed in the conviflio.n. that, amidft EG* *
44 VERTY and PERSECUTION, I pre- 1
\44 ferVcd my political f;;iir:, my love for my 1
! 44 fellow citizens, and an inflexible adherence ‘
44 to pl^ncjple.?, Meriv/j-ther Jones, n I
* the Examiner of the 28th nit. Of the two '
! words printed in capita!6, it rs irnpof? Kk* to
! con prebend the meaning.
ployer. I n.# not fecn, nor thought of that
pci loti lor a long tune pifl, when I chanced,
lome weeks ago, to cell v his brother’s houfe.
He was there, and fpeke to me. My aftonilh
ueiu at feeing him Was fo great, that, for
lorr.c momerts, I was incapable of m;*kiru:
him an anfwer. In the lanpuagcot his bro
ther’s favorite hero, Caleb tFilliams, 1 could
not help faying to myfelf Surely, this man is a
MttR.DEK.2F.' He went on to tell ir.e that, in
H's brother's abfencc, he was editor of the Lx
anrr.tr; and it acs partly upon the ground of
this inti matron, that I fuon after took Cone
freedom, as a critic, with the contents of that
new -paper. In atone of brutality which bar
trontrrs w?*h the complexion of his amours, f 1
t},is mari refers the editor of the Recorder j
to the knout. If I hear much more of his >
node, } Quail have him apprehended, as f have !
done by t»vo of my late viijtor?; or, if appre- j
hen ft on is found ro be impracticable, i /l>ull !
pro'* :r< a motion to be made in the next
genera*, aflembly for enquiring by whole j
breach of duty it happens, that he has j
been fuffered to walk at large. The aiTcmblv 1
pays the (alanes of our public officer*, ,:,d if I
they neg!eft or defpife the execution of the.ir i
bu ft nets, ;r is full time for the public to haw I
done with them. I
* >- ^ QTiftQCTQCy ^ \V2S there TVCT
aviln iofbance of its worft fpirit than tins, that
a man who is mderflood to have killed ano
ther, under ihe moft qyeftionable cirtuni
nances, (hall be endured to fpit in the fact of
public juflicc, merely becaufe he >s rhe
^"^her of a popular democratiea! printer?
1 his ^liberty and equality with a vengeance !
U loubt bud reilcd in the public mind, as to
die real features of his chancier, Skeltonjo
aes’b lad procuftiop would determine the point,
i ha\ _ ready (hewn .hat there was not even
1 fhadow ground for his alledging that J
wanted to refer to his duel with IUr. Seldom
Vly readers are moil eameftly requelfed to
o >k at the paflage over and over again ■, and
f they can he convinced that the charge is
u-h rp£bb h_r my name be enrolled as the
'icad tiiio: Urs of infamy. But thev will per
:rive that there s .ot 'he fmalWft twinkling of
probability that the two brothers themfelves
Jehe .ed i; :he jullice <>r their own nccufation.
such being the cafe, it follows that the duel
am- to be brought forward,at all rates, as an evi -
lence ; f.imiiy pro *ef$, and as a gratifeati
nofju.nHy vv' ;vly fellow citizens! again,
. recueit, T conjure vou ! by all that is held
acred in 11.ts world, or, in the next one, to
>ai.fe toon the whole paragraph; and if I
trmd convicted by your judgement of having ‘
carted Such an allulion, then, in clod’s name*,
-t :.'io. become the focus for concentrating
rourcontempt! blast me to ai l eter- ;
city I
Skelton Jones had charged me with venality, j
dis proofs were demanded, if ere they fc»l
“ As to the writer’s venality, and his twelve
or flj-fCn federnIfebfer;berr, T received from
‘ feveral hands, among ethos from Mr.
; Henry Banks, that one of his eiTavs con
i cernirig the port: office, gained him about
‘ test tunic) or fobferibers, on the.i fide of
c the poiit:cai epueftion.”
1 here have been three pieces inferred in
he Recorder concerning the poft office. i he
ihject'jf each of them is to expefe the illiberal
tnd fnivelling condufl of Granger. T he firft
>f them v.as publifhed in the Recorder of
VIarch6^h. It complained, with fome vio
t nee, of Granger’s wanting to prolong do
neftic divifions. The federal party were
nei.lioned with civility and refpe&. Mr.
’ones reprinted this piece ! Lh ! In the wry
icxt ntifnber, however, it was vifible that hv.
epented of what he had done. Somebody
adtold ; ri, that the piece v.as ironical; and
iat it aproached toe clofely to the curtain of
ckriocratical SanSium farMorum. It w. s
ecelTary, therefore, to m ike a frefh protefta
:c»n about the purity of his democratical prin
iples. Hedidfo.
A> tr ■•Vir. oaulcs, that gentleman called a:
ns off e, lait 'T hurfJay morning, lull after
lie Examiner appeared. He aflured me that
e had sever faid what was imputed to him bv
keltrn Jones. He had told both Tones and
lvfelf that fome oneofthqfe poft office pieces
/oultl be fure of bringing a number of fub
unbtrj. But he never meant to fay that
v/elve or titteen fed&ci names had be envoi;
>r, at:he time when he (poke thus, ihat piece
1 the Recorder had been only juft publift ;ed.
>y what Mr. Banks faid to Jones, he had no;
lore Irfign of injuring mv r he.ri.cTer than 1
avc, st this moment, <*f wronging his. T
ave been acquainted with Mr. Banks for
bout three years. Tic is a moderate, a Well
a formed, and a confident federalift.
I'hz fevered ether j'(tj is a mere rxnle
tve expreffion. Who were thofe perform, or
y whatmeans could ♦hey ascertain vrhv* nupi
arr of fabfciibers the Recorder had received
rithin ? given time, what were their pMiti
al principles, or their motives for putting
iowu tr.eir names? It is tr-.m, however, that
cveral gentlemen of each party, or perhaps of
><»ne, have called lately, and have profeffed
heir fatisfa&ion at the appearance of fo >ti
»artial and independent a newspaper. One
ft t'ncfc gentlemen is Dr. Adams •• and if t is
f V;d. |rage 2d of this dav*$ Recorder*
(graceful accept of his fubfcription, the
I Keccrocr ft nil plead guilty.
I Eut v.-ouid the brothers tbetr.fclvcs refufe
the fubtenption of any man, who wa able
and willing to pay for their Examiner? h it
net the vt iy pinnacle of impertinence to con
rerun us lor doing what is done bv them, and
oy every uew printer r Meriwether cants
aoou' love for his fellow eittrens;♦ and he
| ihews this lave by doing his petty uttnoft fur
j for: mg their by the ears. Were not the feven
I '/‘h*e ^holders that voted !aft Wednesday
i ur Pr,/^?an'R*itt,ce as nurch fcljow citizen*
'C h,^5elf ' And does not his whole lib.}
again - 'a>" t!:r:\ upo i this pivot rh^t th • R >
cor.!.-,- hasda.-.-d .o accvt ,f
IF ibis be his „f.. xibU
he had better ^ive ee fuch p-incipl.... >tg
adherence to them will offend .Vi:, jefferfor,
who, in Ins tleiSlion fpceeh, told rhe v.'l.ole
world, in exprefs words, that the cue patty
was jujl as good as the o: iter.
In fupport of his charge of venality. f- .n-s
has produced only one witnefs • 1;»J thet
gentleman d’fown*, in effett, the w< rds
winch have been aferibej to him Here
indeed, a moft curious arranr.aerr of
evidence, and a procefs of demon If rat ion which
is perfeaiy original. I* the creature cm be
Uid to have proved anything it amounts oniv
totms that he had beet.■ telling a faifehood
again il me. J J
qu;u for this time, an adverf.iry lb loath -
1 fome as th< man, w • v fights .. h, ’ h Kis
tricrij .or the-jmflofii.mof an African ftrur* pet.
VVe fhail now w.dk up Hairs from the de
puty to the principal, *o drat m.- srpR-toi
tor, wh marfha'■> the content:; ot his newc
papei with as much dexu-my a« Buon<mr»r:e
fights a battle, i he arrument' ofMr. Tones
are like the armed men of Cadmus. " Th •
moment t: *t they Spring up., the-/ knock ea.h
other upon -he head. Mr. Joner, and Skelton
toil through four columns to ,»rov- that
the Recorder has deferted to :he Juireti caulh;
and they both upbraid p- with u yoccefon
“ federal patronage \" Ac. As the part
ing (troke, they boafl that Mr. Warden is a
decided federalij}, and that he \vd! not pay
for this pay to f The fvllogilin, when com
prefled, Hands thus: *• A decided fedrralifi
“ will nor pay for y^ur paper: Er'goy it has
u acquired an acceiiion of fr iera'.-pxrow^re."
A!.. \* arden is ojl, rich, and without a
family. !?._* is remarkabh violent in his
opinions. J o ferve them, h,e values two
dollars no more than two pinches of fmiiv.
in pqint cf political and conttitutional know
ledge, the two brothers, when compared w :ch
this old Scotchman, art but two cork {nar
rows uHer the beak of a Turkey Bui/ M.
His rcrufal to t?ice the Recorder, or, at iv At
his refufa! rc> pay f:— i*, iK..rc.--.r(a,
evidence that he docs not think it a federal
newspaper. ! e luperiority of his know lcd;-e
afcertaiiis that he is a far better judge of he
matter liar, this little pair of Examiners.
Mr. Jones him felt in bis attack upon me
bus this p-fiage: *• Your iuitcrings interefted
“ me in your welfare beyond what all the
w h-d ora lifts, and many even of the moderate
w republicans, thought you merited. But
u while 1 fwppofeJ that‘your conduct was
u di<aatcd by principle, l was moft forward
to pat don eiro.s, amc to uo jufficc to vour
u lervices and merit. Even now I do not
“ abandon you, or give you up for lc.it: hu
manity is frail j fome allowance is ui e tfs
w circuniftances and fituatioris, which I Hiatt
lt never withhold from one who har- in anv
u degree pofRfTed my confidence. /* is on; v
“ uPon a full demon ft rat ion, that I fhail vivid
u my alTent to your apoftaev.
I'he length to which this letter ha% al
ready been extended, makes ic inv. .TY- ro
gn e the above extract a f ui table rebutter n
tri: day’s paper. But ns Mr. Jones fus,
that he was “ moji forward to pardon error,,
and So /. j if ice to your ft evicts and merit f
it become- a matter of neceilitv to i-xclair.
at i -alt in feme meafurc, what thofe ferxiecs
were, and what this jujlice proved to be. I
came to Richmond on Mat 25th, 1:99. 1
y ved in Mr. Jon o’ s family till fornetime in
j December following, to wit, aOo' : fix months.
I n that period, I once, ?.fked him to lend me
five dollars. h\ accent more melodious than
even the warbling or John Warden’s wind
pipe, Mr Jones anfweicd, that he csuld girt
mi four. / did not, at that time, know,
that thefirft of Mr. Jones's perfonai maxin -
’.vaio get into debt as far a?, pcffilh \ anj
that the fecond was, to keep in it as long as
vy/tb!*. He was r.-.-ver afkcd a fecond t’ime
for money by nv.\ while / was in his houfe.
When / tair. away, Mr. Jones fern alerter,
tie therein rod that iic would cave three
hundred dollars per annum for mv fcrvices,
befidcs paying for my board. Hence, from
i.«.s own fhutment, it f- How/, that, in the pre
ceding fix month;, and befidcs tb~ charge of
my lodging, l ha/l been worth an hundred
li,"‘ fiji'i cellars Co him. But for thefc fix
months of the fummer and fall of T799, there
*/Vas never afkcd, there was r.evei received ana
cent more than thofe kot p. doU.ars. This
.s ihe rate of compcnfation that / have-met
; with.
Richmond, ~f
May 4ti . ($02. $
| J Vid. tb.' former note.

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