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m.tiul of coh should be entrus
tv'»Ucent ofiicer, who should ha
r. *»\mand certain portions o
infantry of the regular army
d strict, there should Ire u w
cf cannon mounted on trar
winch could I;*: ra* idly d
parts «K may be threaten
lifer t«» devise the plans
\iir erection i»f such wor
•may be necessary, These
~ allying pointsof defence hr
cr, and will he sure to
the whole country.
before it proofs, that
ovsrnmcnt ise
v in return
this
w cannot be
t<> the East Florida
already exibt*».
provable bv tht?
jury ; it is
every milit
ant! will rcqo
cupicd by the
would
the subject
military dist
troops which
If the
•ball object
ted to each was
dent Home of
objection sen o*
g i*r*ent eml tbe
t ie present nii'.hary
cierit and that i Cuipr!\t to bo
t ' it nng.u or recollected Tils obser
\ i u.>s .vote inteniei to apply nil the
bills or system lie had ;ep> rted, tv. .uusethey
vere till insure me., u- e pendent on the
B-ic.ce-* of the present an iuu. To Boston
district, including Portsmouth and the whole
state *>f Massachusetts, 600. To Newport
inrludi. g the states of Connecticut 8c Rhode
Inland, f if). T» ew-\..i-k, inchist eofi at
state hiiJ New Jersey, 1,000. To Pi-iladei
phH. c.•'mpvi.sinp the states of Pennsylvania
n-'d Delaware, 400. To Baltimore, Annap
olis. N u'iifc. including Maryland and Vir
ginia, 500. Tt. Charleston, including North
and S mih Carolina,400 To Savannah and
the Cost FI oriel h frontier, 2000. T«» Ne-v
Orh-ftns, ci, sensing Mnbille, West F orid •
•iul Natchitoches, 2500. To Detroit and
ali the western fi ntier, 2000, making tin
‘,rT'roa>cof 10.CC0 regulars. These taken
fr i n the establishment a!"cadv providrdfor,
leave* a forc^of 25,000. The difference
between the ntmibers enlisted, and elective
men, is vt.yr material; in no service, how
ever .vciuh’. Is it estimated at Uss than < ne
for th, with new levies at least one-third :
dc .net oulv 10,000 from the whole number
pt'ov ided For, we shall, supposNtng our ranks
liked, have in the fieh! onlv 15,000 that can
be directed ay ,*.nst Niagara, Ki.igstan, Mon
treal, Lower Canada and Halifax. L that
nun. her snft'cient f» rthc purposes ofg'ivern
irei,r ? This must depend upon the number
m d cpiality of the opposing ff ret?. It ought
not to be estimated that the regular force in
Upper £c Lower Canada is less than 12.000 ;
besides th.se there are severul. 1000 militia,
and «t Halifax 3000 regulars. Todrive this
force front ilie field you should cross the St.
L awrence with a well -ppoimed army twen
ty thousand strong, with a reserve, always
desirable, with raw troops indispensable, *f
10,000. We ought not to calculate on peace.
A l nuii i itiou have in Vain sued for it,
through Mr. Russell, even m the expense «.f
the sarcastic sneers of the British minister ;
let us th«*n prepare in good earnest for war.
It the spitlig shall not bring with it peace
the campaign must open in n style cf vign
and force calculated to inspiic confidence of
success among ourseb e and av-e in the ene
my. The result of such a state of things
will be ...< Favourable to us, by depressing
the spirit* of the adversaiy. ns by making
our own tro s undaunted—rmthig must be
left to Chance tiv.it is witlun the compass of
enr me.ns—v e must deserve to be lortu
ii&t.*. To be successful our movements eve
ry where must be in concert; at the same
moment we move on Canada, a corps of
10,000 men should from the Province of
Maine threaten Halifax; as a diversion it
will indisptit.' bly be felt; such a force, if dis
regarded by the enemy, trusting to the sup
posed d.fficulty of approach, will be compt
tent to the reduction of Halifax
The clurnotep of our government had
been so depressed in Europe, no; more by
fbi-eign than domestic misrepresentation, as
inucli even within these wall* as without
them, it h.ol become necessary to make war,
to place our backs against the wail £c prove
t» European marauders, there is a point be
yond which we will not recede T his good
the war has accomplished ; but it l.as be
come more than ever necessary to prove
that, we will not only declare war, but can
prosecute it with energy and courageous en
terpvize. The honor, the character of the
nati >n require that the British power on our
borders shah be demolished in the next
campaign—her American provinces c:^e
wrested 1vom her, every attempt. i*»rcco\cr
them will be chimerical, ex.c**pl lino* nego
tiation. The road to p< .«•<• then lir*s through
Canada. VV lien we «<*all once be in posses
•inn of it, peace honorable peace, the sole
object of us all i5 But some gentle
no n affect r. syrup it hy for the Canadians
— wh>’ i,ri> they, willyou nuite war on them f
'I'liey liavc not injured us. Nor,sir, has the
British tar injured in, n'though he is tie
Insti unientbf plunder and impressment. It
is to cOiKi 'er the. sovereignty of the soil, to
raze fhe British power, to reach by such
me iiii her ptodigate and unjust ministry,
tliaf wai m waged at all— theunanred will
rever tall on American bayonets—-it is not
against the people of either Canada nr
Crcat Britain, but against the English sub
ject in arms.ihnt the w (p is directed. Hy
physical force tlicn alone can we proceed.
Art f. W here recapitulated at some length
the auu-unt of the fort© provided and that
wlddi wasncccss/iry t»r ;he various objects
that should be accomplished, shewing that
at least twenty thousand additional rcgulats
ought to be author bed. liow, asked ho,
•hall ibis d •f.cionci’ he supplied ? Shall we
ia- v nn the Trtslitiat Sound policy, not less
t ini • gpetiencc. forbhls a draft on them for
1“ r »’ ..ent -.*-!• vice. However valuable they
me b-r sudden emergencies, and in this way
t .. iih, h reliance cunnot he placed on them,
v' in nt« % b ill ;n ihem and the government,
fi> f»id Mo-r use f« >• other purposes. Their
•ta c <>t discipline and insubordination, (ex
C- >i in I#*** faftr of danger,) e.invumstances
fc owing out of the freedom of «nr instituti
i the tfs 114 <rf public property, wluch ac
I r«*£ by strong farts, all unite to
ui frcm this resort. Call them
ioi t term of duty, for so much
arching to ami from the
ms y«m are subject topay
neccwary to main
lake ibe term of ser
the burthen
the Ri'eat mass who
nntl it cheaper to pay
themselves.
?er deceive ourselves by
ct on tb** absurd volun
perience is equally warning
thousands of your brave
r. (lhairman, have rushed to
danger, it was certainly not under
Volunteer acts—if ever «.nc »chcvne
■ettev calculated to deceive its authors
miiother, this sureiv is it. To say no*
w'hmu its unconstitutional character,
Jr-iacrabfe contrivance, perfectly nu
T* except to Accomplish disappoint
) Without a head, its opciatious, to
V least of them, begin at the wrong
/ 1 he people are to manage the alFair
•Associate—to enroll themselves—to ve
Fncntl ofh'crs. Organize a regiment,
nil be made up of such discordant insub
mate materials. siraneeiS to nnd itrnt»
int of each other, confidence cannot exist
fa *' J hnt, above all, the volunteer is to in
lent himself lor three years for the perfor
mance of one year’s .service. Repeal these
ac's, as the tall proposes, with u re-crv tion
of the nghts that haic accrued under them
Rntl the service to *hc government of the
men who have enrolled themselves—and iu
their stead, authorise a corps of twenty
tnousnmi men «»l un gthyient.rcgulHr cliarac
e4*. Wlienthe colonels shall have been se
Icc'M tor their virtues and influence, Rive
to them the selection of their officers—they
can better judge who ought to command,
and who can raise tnen in their own neigh*
bourhood, than the President or the Senate,
i his mode will only chp.Tfg# the appoint
ment of officers, from individual members
nt Congress to colonels, who certainly will
be mure scrupulous who he associates with
him iti time of danger than any other can
be; they may be safely intrusted with this
power, under the approbation of the Presi
dem. With such a provision the corps can
be raised almost as the officers can be no
minated by the President, approve^ by the
Senate, und c ,:n nissiom d bv the Secretary
't War. The term of enlistment is, con
fessedly , not the most eligible to form sol
diers; hut, in as much, usit is doubtful, whe
ther you can get a force sufficiently strong
• >n a long period, the present is proposed.
Hut for the gallant and brave patriot of the
revolution before him (Col. Stuart) he
should have omitted to add, this mode
*vas found the most effications to raise met*,
during the revolutionary war : having been
tested by experience it may again be relied
on.
Having shewn the necessity of augmenting
the regular forces, it waa equally material to
provide for filling the ranks, and for keeping
thrm at thrir ful^coTiplcmen^ when filled.—
Vfiih this view was the 1st section introduced.
The greatest evil, incident to the recruiting
se-vice, resub* from th<^number of persona to
whom the pu»4ic money was necessarily dis
tributed ; in proportion tothe number of per
sons with whom it it intrusted, will be ita mis
application. To retne-lv this, it is proposed
to appoint officers to each regiment, for that
particular purpose, in noway different from
those already appointed, who shell lie empUn
e«J in recruiting for their respective rrgimenU
—these to be under the order of a major, who
•halt receive and he accountable for the issue
of mimcy and clothes for that service. The
ranks filled, the presence of all the officers
on the present establishment will ba indispen
sable, as in our sci vice the proportion of pri
vies to the officers is greater than in any o
tl.rr service whatever. The new organisation
which was given to the arrr.y at the last ses
sion, increased the number of privates in each
company without a correspondng increase of
officers. It two lieutenant s Were necessary in
a corn par.), for the purpose of discipline and
recruiting, w hen it consisted of only siaty-lour
privates, assuredly three are as much so now it
is raised to 93. The recruits as fast as they
are enlisted may be cnnc< wtrated under'he e- c
«f the major, wfi. re they may be exercised ar.d
drill* d, so that when he joins the regiment
they will be qualified to enter the ranks and
face the enemv.
He expected to hear it objected, that these
additional officers were unnecessary, seeing
the regiments were not full. He apprehended
this objection was more specious than solid.
Considering all the circumstances in relation to
»hv army, the period when raised and how of
ficered, lie believed, supposing the regiments
only half filhd, it \v s indispensably necessary,
the officers should he constantly with them.
He Was much * mistaken if the officers wi re
not as raw as the private soldiers—it was as
important they should he f. miliar with the du
tie*, as they whom they are to command It
would be nothing short of butchery to send
brave men into tb'* field, under such circuit)*
Static, i, when in our power to avoid them. All
the dolliif« and cents you will save, by refus
ing th?&* £ v» additional officers, would not be
v.irrlu the life ofa single man,to savnothingof
die pos.ible slaughter of thousands without
them. Of necessity, our officers iced instnic*
lion—*they should be devoted to it during the
v ,n*c- — they can he no where so beneficially
employed «ft with their regiments on duty It
is the quality, not the number of the troops,
that secures and Improve* victory
One other objection hecoiitd anticipate— per
haps those who ran sneer at the dis .sters and
misfortunes of the lat« campaign may object
that there Is no encouragement to vote addi
tional forces, icing those which have been al
ready raised have Imen so illy employed. It
becomes us s’l to be equally faithful' to our
country, whether her arms arc victorious or
not ; it is in times of discomfiture that the pat
riot’s resolution and virtues are most needed.
It is no matter by what party names w« *P.>
dial ingHished, this is our country—we are chil
dren of the same lamilv, and ought to be bro
thrrs in a common cause The misfortune which
befalls one portion, should sink tlcrp in the
hearts of the others also , What misfortune so
g^est st the loss of character ! If we shall for
get our impatience under disgrace, nnd look
bi.sk on the events that have passed, with only
as much candor as becomes us, this objection
inti.it vanish. Under live cirnimvtances in
which it found itself, without expfri?nce,either
in itself or othorj to guide it, administration
»ii;;ht not to l>e censored for the bad military
appointments it may have made, however mutii
it tray deserve, if it fchsll retain men in cm
fj.oy, when found inr.tp iblc to discharge the
Julies entrusted to them. |ft. was fearless of
ron'.r.vjiction in declaring, all our disasters
tprung from a cause wltich no man in tl»e na
tion could have anticipated—it was r.r xtto im
possibility any human being could have fore
*eot>, much leas provided against it. It was
*Uh pain and rcluounce lie felt it lus duly, to
-*>e
jperfc -.fan <iA*er ."J’cn and ulagni
wlv etl he could discover any cause for the
surrender .f IX Uu t,leti>h*uiiuy l .an trench
cry or cow .irdice— In tween them he saw no-1
thing to choose. Justice w iit hcn:tlUr, il par
t v heat denies it now, pronounce the plan of I
the campaign, as intrusted togen. Huh, easy to
he ..ccnmpliO'td and judicious in its o! jet’s
The commandant traa furnished with every
strain necessary fur success—with money,
men, propitious and in mu’, .on s cf war in shun
dance. What better mode could have b en a
it*.pted, to prevent Indian hostility and iaier
cept British supplies of the instruments of
mas*..ere ? That your army had nett he n pro
truded beyond the point with which coRUAUtii
cation* could have been maintained, is evident
troin the events which followed. What \v»»
there to mar success.’ Nothing! The CuO).
min*'untat M.ddcn needed only an "pology to
surren-’er? \Vhst if the <tthcr lluli had com
manded ? liv.-rv thing1 Would have fallen br
tore him—great science w as not necessary ;
i aourage and faith fulness would have accom
plished everything. A train of heaw artillery
Was not required to hatter a breach f r the as
sault; it was not necessKry to fire a single gun
—not a cartridge need have hcenexpendrd—
the bayonet alone was adequate to have taken
Malden at any hour from tKe moment the A
•ncrican army crossed into Canada,till iU most
shameiol retreat. Tue fort waa not enclosed!
—one entire side was open to asaault! Yes, s:r,
Lad the brav* Hull, who bore your ** thunder
«n the mountain ware,” directed the v.dor of
that army, he would have poured the storm
of victory tcsiiitlean on the foe. Tuia black
deed, without a battle, was cir aummated in the
toiicititf surrender of the brave corps which
were hastening to his relief; these, too, were
arrts.ed and thrown back on the community,
leaving the whole western frontier exposed to
savage inroad. Hence all our misfortunes!
After this, will it be contended that the arci
dental appointment of an improper agent shall
o*iue a refusal of the force necessary to drag
•urdrowred honor tip from the ocean ©1 infa
my into which it lias bent plunged ? Impossi
ble ! Rconomy of life and treasure call fora
vigorous campaign—away tvitii lifeless expedi
«nts; miserable inertness must be banished—
real and energy inuat be imuscl everywhere.
One protracted campaign w ill cost twenty fold
more than the expenditures now asked for.
Let thia he the signal for resolution—the first
evidence of energetic policy. I,et us suppose
out selves leading the forlorn hope ; and assume
the spirit and vigor characteristic of such an
enterprise—the army will feel it—disaster and
disgrace will then disappear. It is to save the
public treasure—the people’s blood ; it is tor
the reclamation of character, I ask for high
bounties and premiums ; and so asking, I hope
not to be denied. •
The question was then taken on filling the
several blank . in the first bill as moved by Mr.
Williams, and carried.
Mr. Clay (Shaker) congratulated the com
mittee and the nation on the system which had
been presented to their consideration, and the
prospect of prosecuting the next campaign
with a vigor which should ensure a successful
result. He rose at this time, however, to pro
pose a» amendment to the bill, the object of
which v as to repeal so much of former laws
as author'zes a bounty of land to the recruits
As to the recruiting service, he was convinced,
from what he had h. ard, that it added scarcely
any inducement to the recruit—that it had not
added an hundred men to the ajmy. He con
fessed he had been much mistaken as to the ef
fect it had been expected to produce. &c Mr.
C. added many remarks going to support his po
s tions, staling, among other things, that the
la id would in the end get into the hands ofspu.
culatora. and the individnals tor whose benefit
it. was intended would derive no advantage from
it. Now, that it was proposed to increase the
bount}’ in money, he thought it would be a
proper occasion to repeat so much of the exis
ting laws 9s allowed a bounty in land, on which
the recruits not generally as much.value as if
it were located in tiie moon. Mr. C. conclud
ed by making a motion to that effect.
Mr.*Troup and Mr. Bibb stated objections
to the motion, as going to withdraw what was
certainly, in many parts of the country, an in
ducement to enlistments, at a time when every
means oil. lit to be called into action for the
purpose of filling the ranks of the army.
Air Clay’s motion was tlven agreed to by the
committee. [But this decision was on the next
day reversed bv the House, and the amend
ment rejected.']
The othor bill before the committee, going
to authorise the raising an additional force of
20,000 men for one year, was then taken up,
am! the blanks therein severally filled.
(15Y AUTHORITY.)
Laws of the United States.
A>f ACT
Directing1 the Secretary of the Treasury to re
mil fines, forfeiture# anil penalties, in ceruiii
cases.
fl R it enacted by the Senate and Houne
of Iic/iresenlatives cf the United Stateft
America, in Congrt.ee aeeetnhted, Thai
in alt cases where g 'oils, wares and merchan
dize, owned by a citizen or citizens of the U
niteil States, have t>een imported into the Unit,
e 1 States from the Unped Kingdom of G Bri.
rain and (rebind, which goods, wares and mer
' handize we « shipped on board vessels which
departed therefrom between the twenty third
day of June last, ami the fifteenth daj of Sep
temhi-r last, and the person or persons hue
rested in such goodl, wares or merchandize, or
concerned in the importation thereof, have
thereby incurred any fine, penalty and forfeiture,
under an art, entitled “ An act to inlet diet the
commerei 1 intercourse between the United
States sml Great Britain, and France, ami their
dependr rides, and for other purposes,” and an
act, entitled " An act C'hcernir.g the commer
cial interco'rrse between the United States and
Great B itain, and France, and their dependt-n
cies, sod for other jiurposes,” and the act sup.
piciiienUry to the art lait mentioned, on such
person or .persons petitioning for relief to any
judge or court proper to hear the same, in pur
suance of the provisions of the act, entitled
“ An act to provide for mitigating or remitting
the fines, forfeitures and penalties, in certain
cases therein mentioned and on the facts be
ing shown, on inquiry hail by said judge or
court, atafcd and transmitted, as by said a;t is
require t^^the Secretary of the Treaauryj in
sll such fmeh^hersin it shall be proved to his
■ Rtisfacii •t;idigl »*id goods, wares and nwr
rhandi/.e, T^^^tirne of their shipment, were I
Sons fide owned by s citizen or citizens of the
United States, and shipped and did depart from
some port or place In the united kingdom of
Brent Britain and Iceland, owned as aforesaid,
between »f»e (wentydhsrd day of Jane last,
tod the fit tee rth day of .September last, the
h - et-iry of the Treasury »s hereby directed to
■i wit ^11 fines, prnalt vs and forfeitures, that
n*y luvs been incurred under 1 »• said sets, in
: on sequence «,f sech shipment, importation or
mportat ions, upon the costs and charges that
bare arisen or may arise being pa;d, and on pay
ment of the duties which voudd have bean pay.
Sic !. * law (>u «mc!> gnods, urrrrs ag-i .Te* fct.n I
di*e, if legjdl y imported ; and -da * t-nir <*'t the I
proiKQiiu >n or pniiccutiuio, it" n; s’ *,l have
I'Ccii insiitut' il tor the r«c<»very thereof. to r „.'0
av-! be di .continued: Provided reveefhtics*.
That no c.-*e It which the purhkte of « i*li
goods. wares an 1 men handlse, u»s made. after
'*’»•" Vw knovii to e.va , between the Unbed I
S at* a uiul tlr.-at Britain, ot the port or place
where .uch mi clus * was mode, shall he tint tied
to idic benefits oi this »ct.
II. CLAY,
Sfieckcr tf the House of Itcfircnentatbves.
Wx. H. CU WVEORD,
President of the. He nut e /no tcmfiorc.
IES MADISON.
AN ACT
To lit crease the Navy ol" the United Slates.*
ft b. it enacted by the Senate and House of fie
present at ire t \cfthe United State* of America in
Confrere Aesr:,nb!eJ, Tlixt the President of the
United tits'e« *haK he, and he hereby is autho
n» *d, as soonVn suitable materials can be pro
| cured theref»r, to cauce to be built, equipped
and employed four rliips to rate not less than
seventy lour guns, and six ship* to rate forty*
four guns each.9
Sec 2. And te it further enacted, That there
•hull b - employed on board t ach of the said
ships of seventy four gun- each, one captain, »ix
Lieutenants, one raptu^Tdhc firs* lieutenant and
one second lieutenant-#^! Aarines, one Burgeon,
o ie qhaplain, one Jffacifcrand three suigtous’
m_tcs. r 1
Sec. 3 And be furthtr enact? I, That there
•hull be employed in e?r.:i <f the said sh.pa
carrying seventy-four guns, the following war
rant oliicers, who ahull be appointed by the
I’reruLnt of the Uwitetl^dutea: one master, one
scc.nid master, three ^wyster’a mates, one
boatswain, one gunnerfune carpenter, one •ail
■fetarv 2. 1813.
PApfitov t.d, .
m Ja:
ni**cr and twenty ni«a»lnpmen j anil the FoT
lowing petty officers, who shall he appointed
by the captains of the ships respectively in
which they are to br employed, viz. one r.r*
mmer, six bnatswair's mates, three gunner**
inaies two carpenter's mates, one saiiimkcr’i
mate, one coo|Hrr, one steward, one master at
arms, one cuc^.one coxswain, one hostswain’s
yeoman, one gshnner’s yeoman, one carpenter’s
yeoman, ten quarter gunner-, eight quarter
masters, one clerk and one schoolmaster, also
to he appointed by the esptain
Sec. 4. And be it further enacted, That the
crews of each of the said ships of seventy four
puns shall consist of two hundred able seaman,
three hundred ordinary se.imen andbnys, three
sergeants, three corporals, one drummer, one
and sixty marinc\.
Sec. 5 And he it ftf/fter enacted. That the
pay of the school mas t«Y shad be 25 dollars per
month and 2 rations per «l£.
See. 6. And be it further enacted, That t he
sum of two millions live hundred thorn.and
dollrrs be, ami the same is hereby appropria
ted, out of any monies in the Treasury not o
therwise appropria'cd, for tlie buildinp and e
quipping ot the aforesaid ships of ;ur.
Ik tJL.VY,
Sweater of the fbuee tf Rcpretcntatirei.
V vVm h. chaw Kurd,
Pretider.t bf thz Senate pro tetnpore
January 2, laid,
ArrsofED,
J.NMF.S MVDI30N’.
CONOHESS.
J.Y SEjYAI'E.
January 4.
The Mississippi bill was taken up, fur
ther considered, and postponed to Monday.
Mr. Taitpresrntedrtfn official copy of an
Act of the I.egislatufe (if Georgia, dcclar
ing the assent of the state p[ Georgia to the
formation of one or more States in the Mis
sissippi Territory.
A mes*ag€ was received from the Presi
dent, transmitting the annual report of the
Director of the Mint.
House of li ep kesejytatites.
Jifpnary 4.
Mr. F.dward Hempstead, a delegate from
the territory of MifSOftr1, appeared and took
his seat.
Mr. Burvell cffeKd |he following resolu
tion for consid«rut ion : •
“ Resolved, Thatthe Committee ofWays
and Means be instructed to enquire into the
expediency of fixing by law the value of for
eign gold coins witflin the U. Stale-,.”
Air. B. observed, thatthe law which had
formerly made thAe coins a tender in the
payment of duties, had f>«cn stiffe-ed to rx
pire twoveurs since; u< i having been re
ut wed, under an liensii n that those
•dins were so fai red\f^Hi. v’aiue s • not o
he ft for ciraiilation. the r< poi c of tiie
assaycr of the Mint, ?<%• the year 1812, aid
on the table a few dr.J^^go, it appealed
that there was no difference in the value of
these c.i ins between the y e-ent day and the
time when the law of 1^06 expired, except
in those of Spain llicre was circulating a
4kantity of gold coin in the country, which
frequently fell into the hands of tho*e un
acquainted with the expiration of the Jaw,
who took it at its full value, and thereby
| incurred loss, f*ce.
I he revolution was-then adopted.
ROLL OF THE ijs. OFFICERS.
Mr. Randolph ro«c to make a motion_
He reni irked, that at thefrst session of the
Seventh Congress, the President of the U
States, for reas ns by him set fortli, trans
mitted to Congress a’ro’.l of the persons ha
ving oflice or employment under the United
States. At that day, reform, economy, re
trenchment, husbanding the public resour
ces, jealousy of great military and naval es
tablishments, jealoM^of executive patron
age, jealousy of thlajsower of the general
government, wheu m collision with that
of the states—the^e w*re then the lead
ing and most prouiltiOTT features of re
publican faith. We find the President of
the United States of that day himself poin
ting t* the patronage with which he is cloth
ed, to its enormous amount, and soliciting
its retrenchment. Rut seeing aside any mol
five the President of the Un.ted States might
have bad in making*^ communication, it
may be admitted tlist wn all hands that it
cannot In- improper f >r this House to possess
such information. Mr. R. therefore' mo
ved—
“ That the PrrsU(7flt*JfPrequested to tut/
before the House a roll of fiersons tim ing of
fice or emolument under the government <f
the United States.”
Mr. Rhea moved that the resolution lie
on the table. Negatived, 49 to 41
Mr. Little could not^necive any object
In view in requiring th^Pnames of military
as well as civil nflicersViiid thought a dis
tinction should bf;gna(\^between them in
tiic resolution, as apprehended
th« gentleman who mere* it intended.
Mi . P.Va tnr.rH to HTcn.l the rcso.
by adding therein the words “ *o Ja.
he brli.’Vt a roit$i.<(cn( mi:h rV fiuhltcgood.'
Mr. Blacklodgc mndea motion going t«
supercude that of Mr. Rhea, that tItc lur
ther console ration of the motion be post
poned to Wednesday next. * Me wished time
to prepare an umendment, which should ex
cept from the general requisition the names
of rhosw persons in the employment of the
Unite J States, the disclosure of whose names
and perhaps employments, the exiting stato
of war might render improper.
Mr. Randolph said he had no abjee'inn.
to the resohiti n being postponed or laid on
the table, hut for tho difficulty whi- h vr.s
iirterpoHv.fl to doing any business in this
House but such as the majority of the House
should previously, directly or tar.it’y,hare
arranged to be dene. Mr. R. said lie hast
himself attended in his place with it widitt*
make this motion at least twenty times.——
According to the present manner ol trans
acting business, Mr. K. said a difficulty was
interposed net only to malting a motion, but
to calling up business on tl.c t .bio—it was
a mode, of doing business before unprece
dented and unheard of, in tlib House, orirr
any parliamentary body on the face of the
earth. Tins circumstance alone induced
Mr. II. to feel any reluctance to accede to
! the proposition for postponement. Rut
| while up, said Vlr. 11. permit me to notice
a change, which would'be amusing if it
were not melancholy—a change bv lime and
| chance which, happen unto all'things—a
j change in tlmse who rail themsalves the ie
I gitinmte successors* f the seventh Congress >
I a difference hrtthe feelings of this.
House now and tlygfi. -T huTHouse now frels
a fastidious delicacyi^k sort of, instinctive
terror, an in wardshi p nr ami \sintimr hi.
c »lling on the Executftefnr ymt information
which the Executive at.tlufriroeXobmtari
lytendered to us. As to tm- i j^ure of the
informationreqnestf^^Jr. Jk*snid he hacl
copied the words firm tlie Message ortho
Ficsid id'o the Seventh Congr ess, trans
mitting wluit he was pleased to call “ &
roll of persons having office mulifcmolumeiit
under tlie United States.’' \!v R. here read
the message alluded to. H * stated Ins <ip
prehension that an rg'-rement tethe motion
topbstpone to Wed reader next would he e«
i quivalent to rejection. The m ale of doing
j business, he repeated was almost such as to
seal the lips oftverv man who has not the
honor to hold tome prominent station in the
standing or select ci*u.mitites of tne House.
In his apprehension\aft abuse ought to be
rents tiled. 'lheevilTnut i: cronsed and was
increasing. The llo6^of^!,e House should
be open as well to one shies aa -the other of
the House— "v.
Mr. K.had proceeded thus far—when
Mr. Spoakt . said hedifi not thi:’.; the re*
marks of the g* utlcumn, reflecting upon the
House f.-r the mode of transacting busitic <s,
proper in themselves or re evr.a • ; •!._ j.ro
position to pptpone the re. i.tif i until
Wednesday. In print tffa. t he .'.;l nl>
serve that there was no tiiiFcronce nivhe op
portunity enjoyed by genth-meu . ml side*
ot tiie House, of submitting then motions.-—■
If there; were n it gr,-at» »• extension 01 tho
time receiving motion*, it proceeded,
from the inability to mate a iio?:s.e, ir. co;v
Stquei ce of the non attendance of *o.m>
members, at theqfiour to which the House,
is a jv.urncd.
r. Randolph having assumed |i»«j seat^
Mr. Kuea s« >1 he should vote for post
jin ement, because tJky*ectiu!d be no ground
tor the call. If tf;c Jcntj.nian lud any ob
ject In vkw ftr.d won" call for ilforinaUou
relative to it, he bad no obkccioii to ahor
ding it. But thik resolutipv wafc too com
prehensive, it hat>-* heginrTug-'W no etui
cr object that he co l i discover.
Mr. I.acock » iid iic had no objection to
the resolution hut that it was too broad foe
the present circumstances of government.
The name was squired of every person em
ployed by ir, r.o matter how necessary that
their employments should he confidential.—.
It left no disc rev. ion to withhold the name of
any person, although eng igntl in miiiiarir
or other concerns ivqu’ring secrecy.
Mr. Hiacki- dge rose to *.iy that he was
ny no means hostile to the object of the mo
tion, further than it might !>«• detrimental
to the public service. He wished to post
pone it to prepare ;<n •:»«! nent. If he could
not amend it v.*i. torily he. would tlieu
vo e for it as it iUod
'1 be question on postponement was a
grecd to 58 to 49.
The bill to confirm the dreisb n of the
rmnir.' spoiero appointed to sefle the boun
daries ■” - I ~
the bi t Tor raising lor on<Tyear an addi*.
tional militaVy force of 20,000 men.
The qt. -Ton was then stated on tin en-»
gro*si«>ent ■ the hill for a third reading_
Mr. Hrigb"m, Mr. Ridgely, and Mr. l*it_
kin successively spoke at great length a*
gainst the bill ; and the H >uve adjourned.
read a
B
Tilt
a Jtmuary «.
T "VA» WiVArtltREh.
I iie linuk ug 'fiiAivf i’stltiuto a r.om
mitfc* r* thu whole, |r, Jublyn the chair,
on the bill frntn£|heJ|eri:He /uthnri.nng of
‘J0.C00 ink for if hfthe opinion o£
the Frt^jillnt of the United States the pub#
lir service shall require It
Mr. Wheaton spoke n^n r-.t length a
gairibt the Liili generally. V '•»
Mr. M’Kce moved aaranundjr.niC to the
bill going to place the appointment of the
othet heldofnccr* of each regiment, as wt*l
a» the Cohmcii, in the'f’rt sirientand Sena t
—The motion was agreed to.
(Speaker'! then rose to apeak ia
support ot the bill anti of the war, and ia
reply to thoso who had spoken on the other
shleW
Baring spoken atxmt an hour, hcdeclar*
ed that he felt himself exhausted and mis*
pended hisrcmaiks, ufkjl a farther oppor
tunity. f
1 he committee rose, reported progress,
and the House adjourned.
FOitKHJN.
LATE FROM KNLI.AND.
Ry the Phiilnsburg, which left |jSvrrp<?n|
on the 9th of Novemb^Lthe Editors of the
New-York Gnxette received Loodoa
papers to the 6th of that month.
The accounts f. o;ndin vs,.y^nrnrrally, are
calculated to increase the wfief that the
Russians will ultimately succeed against the
French—they seem to hn . e emerged from
the deep disnrtjr occaiioncd by then lust