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aylvaoi* nys that when became t<* the woollen* duty, he!
surrendered It, because it was but a little mallei . True.it
wan little, and it w a. little lirciiihr the Senator hail pre
viously telnsed to make it target lie expn « :ed his .trip'
dissent, l .«:inK ,s it was deep, w ilh the w hole pioceedm;'
ol the t Oliiluittee. It appeared to him that the committee ^
wns not appoititfiil nor empowered to yield e\ cry thing to
the House. It they disigroc.l I'roui the Mott • • 'Committee
'hey might have '.ml so, uni so i -ported, leaving it to the
Senate to .Icteniiiiie upon the pinprniv ot receding from .
their amendments, lie alluded to the results ol the confer
ence, not to the motives of the eonlerees, and he would
'ay that they hail surrendered and .sacrificed the interests I
ol his constituents. lie knew Ihe importance of trampiil-1
izine the country—the liiiportnm-e of passing M,ine loll
at tins se- imi. There was much in the loll to commend
—much to rondel himde-irous lit pas.jug it into a law.—
lint surely, in ..-tiling the details ami |o inri|des u| mea
sure <>l such va-t and general importance, the Senate had
a ri”ht to exercise sonic inllni nee, to fake some part, lie
had no donld- Irnm the first h.t was confident that the
Senate, hy standing linn to their amendments, with a
Steady and derisive majority, would have sustained them.
I he v.ntise ol the (Umimittee had detea'ed that expecta
tion. \\ hatever might he the .ole of the Senate now, we
could expect nothing. He condemned the whole proce
dure, and iiiii.di regretted that the honorable Senator horn
New Jersey had lent it his countenance.
i\Ir. 11.1yiM' s;n I, lh.it .1^ In* l»«i|i|pono<), iliDMoj, very
linn || out ot place, lo be a member ol this Committee ol
( onletenrc. it Itit. ioeninhent on hiW i„ ln..kr ,.x.
plan .turns as to 11is course in lit.' rohlcrri.ee. Nothing
surprised Iti n> •» much as I hr views that were taken ol
flic conseijnenres of the rejection of ile.se amendments.
I lie smallest ol ail small (piestions ever brought Into a le
gislative ho ly, appeared to him lo he these questions, whe
ther the duty on woollens should he 50 or 57 per rent
w hether the .Inly on sugar should he 2 1-2 or 3 cents
a II)., anil whether the ihitj on cotton bagging should he
hill .. rent a yard more or less. Mr. Ilayne went on. at
son., length to show that, hy the change i„ the valnalion
or ttie pound sterling ami hy the diminution of credits on
011 nrtleles were carried heyond
the I arid ol 1821, and hut little shot t of that of 1828. As
lo Iron, In* believed that the duties on that article were in
creased, thu reduction being more than compensated hv
other equivalents. Bui really, when gentlemen, in .el
fling this great question, hang so pertinaciously on pins and
particles, Is it not a proof that there is a determination not
to surrender a single hair of the protective system to hold
on upon every thing which in the least affects the nroleel
J, I be whole eonh ienec presented lliis ..i.pal
Img fact, that w he, a duty was spoken of, it w as mentioned
only reference to the interest of the manufacturer of the ar
hele taxed. As lo the wm liens, out of seven members of the
oinmiltce live were ot the opinion that they were adenttalc
y I'rtdccted hy the hill as it passed the [louse. One Lm
her pm,hieed I he authoHty of one of the fust manufac
turers in the country, for the opinion that tho hill « is
lavornl.lo lo woollens Ilian the bill ..I 1828. lie
had IninAlIt ,,.\unincd the suhjeet very closely, and had
found that woollens pai l a higher t.tx under flits bill than
under that of 1S2H. Perhaps (lie duty Wa» Mol FO
to the manufacturer, hill it w is more oppressive upon the
consumer*. Here let me allude, said Mr. II., to the oirn
p**oussupposition that the Senator from New Jersey c\
bibi.ud any'di. po?itioii lo surrender any thing in the eon
ferenec. He agreed ft) 'iclil every thing hut three, vi/.:
woollens, sugar and cotton bagging, t||'on ivhicli ho insist
ed. I, on every amendment, moved to recede; soT"^
limes | carried with me the Senator from New Jersey
and sometimes the Senator Iron. Pennsylvania, and in
that way, I got along through all the amendments
[Mr. Dickerson prompted the Senator Iron, South Carolina,
reminding him ot japanned harness ami other articles, up
on which lie wished to adhere to the Spuntc’ftamendmcnK 1
It is possible, said Mr. II., I may In* wrong. I recollect
as to the harness. It was said that the manufacture of ja
panne.l harness had been commenced l.y a person in New
Jersey, and that was urged as a reason why the people ol
the United States should not have their harness cheap.
Mut, alter some enquiry, it was found that the reduction ol
duty did not affect the manufacturer, his being a dillcrcnt
article, and tin1 amendment w as abandoned. The Coin
initfco at length agreed to recede from all Imt the wool
lens, and upon th U they hung. They worked hard foi l
55 per cent., for 53 1-2 and for 52. lint the House (\>m- I
mitten would not assent even to the addition ol two per
cent.--They were, about going oil, to report an irrecotu-i
Icahle disagreement, when the gentleman from Pennsyl
vania being satisfied the Hi 11 was a very advantageous one
to him, and that woollens were adequately protected un
der it, agreed to recede from the amendment. Mr. H re
peated, that the. t.iU was worse th an the existing system,
so tar as it concerned the interest of consumers. I tint re
duced several new and dangerous principles, put an inqui
r'd -'i.l power into (lie hands ol the appraisers, and, taken
item l*y deni, renders the protective duties higher than
lh«y now are. U„der these eireiuuslanees, hc'slioul.l op
pose the passage of'lie hill. lie should vote against the
pending motion lor indefinite postponement, with the in
tention to move a re commitment ol tlie hill w ill, instruc
tions for its modification. It that attempt failed, he should
renew the motion for (he indefinite postponement of the
l.tll.
Mr. Ilolmes thought it would he so; nay, he had no
doubt ot it; nullification is abroad.
Mr. Ilayne. I did not mention nullification in the
whole comse of this debate. I have cautiously avoided j
that topic, as every Senator will hear me witness. Ii.it |
now say, that it any gentleman wishes to go into (lie dt
cession of nullification, f am prepared h.r it. .
Mr. Holmes resumed. I ui.d. rlake lo say that the dot
trine ol nullification, and the doctrine o| the tnicoHslilii
tion.ility ot tho protective system are identical.
Mr. Moore called the Senator from Maine loonier.
I lie t'h,nr said that the Senator must recollect that Hi
question was on the indefinite postponement of the hill
Mr. Ilolmes. N< w l.ttgland is saeritied,
Mr. King called the {Senator to order.
Mr. Holmes continued.
Tho Chair pronounced that he was out of older.
Mr. Holmes. flic Senator from South Carolina Irl
us that lie appealed to New Jersey for the surrender,
one interest and to Pennsylvania for the surrender <
another interest, and w ith the as.-istancc of the one or lit
other ol his colleagues, he always found hitnsell in th
majorit y.
The Chair again interrupted Mr. Holme*.
Mr. Holmes. It is proper for mu to reply, or itw.is
improper lor the Kcnntm fioin South Carolina to imikc the
remarks. The Senator from IVnnsy Ivania suggests (|(
the Senator from Kentucky may he disappointed in the
same important events.
The Chair here interposed; and declared that, unless the
Senator confined himself to the question, he should he un
der the necessity of requesting him to take his -.-at.
Mr. Clay remarked that the motion for indefinite post
ponement opened the entire subject lor deltaic, as ivolc as
possible.
Mr. 1 Inline*proceeded to say that llii* was (lie fust time
it w a* ever declared to be out ol order to comment on, or
reply to remarks which were in order. If one Senator
stopped out of the way to make a remark and was not called
to order, it was too late to call another Senator to order for
stepping out ot the way to meet him. Why should the
Senator from Pennsylvania remark lli.it any of it* may he
disappointed in our exportation*. There was more than
one ol ns who had favorite objects in view, and more than
nnent us might he disappointed. It may he that he who
predicts disappointment to others \v ill he himsclfsorely dis
appointed. J
Mr. Holmes went on lo speak of the surrender by (he
Cnuiinittrr „f the interests ot New Kngland. What did
New Kngland get? New Kngland had no candidate lor
the Presidency and never would have, and therefore (lie
interests of New Kngland should he protected. The far
mer had a duty to protect his wool, hut as the woollen
manufacture was destroyed, he had no purchaser for his
wool. I (owe ver, in Spile ol the bill and every thing else,
I believe we in New Kngland will live all the days of our
live*. Though we expert to he hewer* of wood arid draw
er* of water to the South, yet we don’t intend to hew 1
their wood and draw water for nothing.
Tho question was then taken and decided a* follows;
Yen*.- Messrs. Hell, Clayton, Foot, Holmes, Knight,
Naitdain, liohhins, llugglcs, Seymour, Waggamau—10.
Mc«*r.*JViiton, JJjbli, Ibown, fnrekner, Chani
h.-rs, ( May, Dallas, Dickerson, Dudley, Kllis, Kwing, Kor
‘Ytli, Fieliughuy-'eii, (Jruinly, Ifayne, Hendricks, Hill,
Johnson, K.itm, King, Mangnm, Marry, Miller, Moore,
PoindoMer, Prentiss, I’oliinsou, Hilsliee, Smith, Sprague,
I a/.« well, I iplou, Tomlinson, Troup, Tyler, Webster.
While, Wilkins—HH. 1 '
Mi. ( lay said, that he had voted against (he proposition
!m the indefinite postponement of the hill lor various rea
son*, the first of which H U that the. hill contained a clear,
didwirf, and indisputable admission id the great principle
ol Protection. That principle, coeval with the Commence
i".:"t ot the government, and which h is been continued
ever »ince, in pr ice and in war, now that the nation may
he regarded out of debt, is again solemnly sanctioned, and
l.y tho concurrence ol many votes from that quarter of
the Union which Ins most complained of the exercise ol
the power. They have sanctioned it by voting against
the indrhnito postponement of the bill. flencrfor
ward, he hoped that the power would not be contro
verted, and that the frinquillify so much needed by
’he country, would he lully restored. Henceforward,
he hoped Ilia! the only question would he about the pro
pel application ol the power, giving it effiarticy, when
more efficiency is required, and moderating it* opera
tion where the pressure of i! may he unduly severe.—
I her • was another consideration which reconciled him to
the pa-sage of :he Idll. It contained r clear recognition ol
to priry iph, which he had contended for at the commence*
met o tire session, tint the reduction ol duties r,ccc,-.,.
ryfo ailapf the revenue ol the rouulry to the wants of Go
vernment, should lie thrown principally on the unpmfert
1 H comprehending iHich •* „„t produced within the
' ry- * discrimination had been strenuously op*
prn. I ,n ft O ear ly part of the session. |, hail been oppos
ed with iidiciilo and dension, and a long list of trifling,
add some ot (hern fiugb.ibfe articles trad been held up for
Wiu amusement o( CoiiRrws. It had hewn atgm-d, that ar
ticles ot luxury, used only hy tin- rich, would be exempt
ill limn t.iXiitiuil, whilst articles essential to the comfort ot
tin- |HX)i were heavily Inntheneil. Ill the progresjiof the
session, we have soi ii these ohjrcli>>ii* ah iieloneil hy many
ol those who urged them, ami who finally voted for the
discrimination. Ami. in regard to tin- article ol silks, the
House ha<l adopted 10 per cent, ml valoiem us the duty
uponChineseand French silks. -- Tin t-.. ot M.inu- i
lartutes ol the Senate, in consequence ol an established !
n«age, proposed to make the duty on French silks lower
ih hi on tliiise ot ( Inna, and teeomioended six per rent, for
the former. Not content w ith that iiieiisme ot reduction, a
Senator from % trgiiiia, (Mr. Tazewell.) had proposed fur
ther to ledum* it to live per rent., ami his pioposition had
hern adopted with the concurring votes ol most el tin*
Southern ?*en.itors. Now,it iheohjeei had lieen simply to
preserve the distinction between the silksol the twoeonn
lues. that object mi^hl have hcctl accomplished, hy putting
t'liiti.isilks at 50 Ol 2<> per el. and Frcneli at 15 or III per on
I he Secretary ol the Treasury had recommended the re
tention ol a duly ol one per ,1. on teas, and a I per rl. on
codec. Ilchcving that tin* expense, incident to welshing,
marking,and enllilj ing, would absorb the duty, and mine- 1
eess.irily keep up a host ofotlieet s, the Committee ol Man
ufactures ol the Senate had proposed to render those ar
; tides entirely lice, and ihcir aincndiuMif to that etlect had
i auo l. •, n concurred in by mo t ot the Mont hot n 8«nato*
" hilst lie rejoiced in the passage ot the bill, (or the rca
I sons assigned, ho could not vote lor receding .. the
j amendments ns recommended by the Committee id Con
leience. lie believed those amendment;* necessary to
| the interests whieli they were intended to protect. And
,11 (lie lull should pass without them, as it will not Ro into
operation until alter the next session, |,c |lo|)04|. ,| n,,.,,
ce rt at tied to lie indispensable, they would In* enacted into
I ■' l,mj- A,“* ,,u Imped that, if there should be disco
vered any oilier omission* or error* in the hill, they w ill
1 then lie corrected. He Was aw are that in voting against
receding, as he should do, that the passage of the hill was
i endangered. For he could not he ignorant of what he
saw mound him; that there was a majority, he would not !
: say, as had been «aid on another occasion an organized!
j majority*to defeat tlurse amendments. And now, Mr. I
I resident, said Mr. C., I hope we shall all go Immc in
hotter temper, and resolve to explain to our constituent*,
lolly and lairly, the operation of (hi* established policy of
the country, ami with a linn determination to spare no of- !
torts to r-ccoiicilc them to it.
ah . M.ingutn said lie had voted against indefinite posl
poncment, bi-rnusc he wished lo vote io recede Irom evc
ry amendment. If.- i-cpuili.. |„r himself mill his ron
Mil.if.its nny filing in co.iimon wi.lt (lie American System,
wluclt originated in cupidity.
I nIr; Wt,hs‘«,r*»t«l,.hcie could lie no rninmilmcnt of itio
l-ill which had passed, ami (lie only question now was on
conciirienro in the disagreement ol the House. The gen
tloiii.in Irom Souih Carolina liml given a |>rac.ieal illustra
tion ol tic art of dividing and conquering; ami he hail
most sh.llully eontriveil to carry his points, with two to
one ng»|n#t him.
Mr. liayno made some remailt* in reply. He eonsid
err.il the motion to rei'oniinit as in onler at any since, and
il the Senate would give him charge or the hill, he" would
undertake to Ining i. into the Senate to-morrow morning, in
the lorm in which it ought to pa«s. lie would make the
inolinn whenever lie could have the opporlutiiy; and iI that
should lail, lie would then move the indefinite posluonc
mental the hill, lie charged the Senator Irom Kentiu kv
vyith a ilpiru lo drive tho South from the support ol the
'•til.
j Mr. Clay replied, and repiSlled the hleri that he intended
(odiive any from the sti|i|iort of the hill.—!l was impossi
ble for a motion tor indefinite postponement to he entcr
' (.lined, now that amendment* had been made by both
, Houses. The hill, as far as amendments were agreed to,
was unchangeable. -Wo must take the question on the
amendments separately, and if we recede, the hill will I
only want the approval of the President to make i. a law. i
He expressed his hope tint the gentlemen from the South, '
who considered this a lull of abominations, would carlt
come out and say so, lint the country may understand it,
ami hear it from them.
Mr. Dickerson said that, in his opinion, the Senator from
j South Carolina, (Mr. liayno.) had claimed a little more
j credit than he merited, lor his address in managing his rol
j leagues on the committee, and (hat the Senator horn M is
sarhuselts had given him a little more credit than he
| claimed. The Senator must have managed us very adroit
ly indeed, when he had no suspicion that there was any
I management in tliu case. I have only to say that the o\.
j hihilion tho Senator made in the Committee, and that
I which he lias just made in describing what took place in
I committee are very different thing*.—1-fc was hy no
I means so clever then: as here. It was there all suh inn
j matter of fact—here not a little of fancy. Tho Senatoi is
j mistaken when lie suppose* tint he induced £iiu of liis ool
! lo yield upon otic point, and the other upon ano
yt.er, and so on. alternately, till he carried all his points.
’ .Now, said Mr. 1)., there was no instance in which the So
[ tutor from Pennsylvania in-isted upon any amendment in
j which I did not agree with him. Ii is true that I yielded
| upon some points that I thought of minor importance, in
j order that I might have a better chance of succeeding up
on those which I deemed of more importance, in all which
j I can assure the gentleman from South Carolina, his ma
nagement had no influence. The Senator from Kentucky
(Mr. Clay) seems lo think Hint we have made a coner-'
sum to the South by our report. So liir as it respects ,„y
soll, I suspect I gain no credit with tint Senator from
South Carolina for.such a concession, and certainly deserve
none: for I conceded nothing which, in my opinion, could
have been sustained without a moral certainly ol Jodie
the Hill. h
Ml . liayno acquitted the Senator from New Jersey ol
ever having shown any disposition to make tin-slightest
concession to the South.
Mr. Miller suggested that it the motion to com nil were
now out ol order, he had von d against indefinite post
j poricnirnt under an erroneous construction of the rule,
j Mr. Webster again showed that Ihr motion to ic-conunit
| could ted he in order.
Mr. Poindexter said it was hi intention to vote for re
ceding from the amendments, and then against tin- hill, if
he could have tin- opportunity; ronsidciiug the l-ill, as it
came from the Mouse, as recognizing the principle ol pro
tection, which In- could never sanction l«y his vole. II hc
eotild not have an opportunity to vote against (he hill, lie
would move the indefinite postponement of the hill.
' • r. ' lay no paid that ho would, before the vole was
, taken on the Iasi amendment, move to eniinnil dm lull with
j instructions. under which im.lion hr hi lieved dial an en
tircly new bill might lm sent bark to die House.
j Wp- HallM fluid, having anxiously consulted wilhsever.il
gentlemen around me, much holier acquainted with die
| ol or,,,'» <lian myself, I am satisfied that die question
| now (impounded for my stilfr'age is die final one on this hill.
It came from the House of liepres, ntalives: it underwent
many amendments in the Senate: those amendments have
not all been concurred in by the House: and we arc now
called upon to say whether we will recede from thorn, ol
our amendments which have been disagreed to. Should
! we recede, the law is complete and already passed by both
j Houses of Congrc s. Wc cannot now rn-eommii: We
| cannot alter w hat both the Senate and the House haveap
. proved: We may prolong altercation and dillieully by re
fusing to recede or leave the matter unfinished and in
definitely postponed: hut if we are to have any law rn
aeted at this session, w c must determine to have one by our
present concluding vote. At this point of an arduous and
interesting discussion, « hen e ven a Committee of Confer
cnee have exhausted their efforts, I cannot consent to give
I a silent vote. Always prepared heretofore, and rc
) . V* ,0 always prepared to assume any respon
| sitiiliiy w hich may seem appropriate to the discharge
<>f my public duties, I am now, and hereafter shall
hr, ready to meet my constituents upon this question:
to tell them frankly and fully my motives and reasons
of action; and most cheerfully to abide by any con
clusion ol their judgment. I am only solicitous tiiat my
course on ilu« Jit ml question in effect, and obviously n
I question of //ms bill O, no bill—should he distinctly rcrord
| cd arid understood. Sir, at an early period ol the session,
I announced the principles upon which I was governed in
the labor of accommodating a new Tarlflofduties to the ex
isting position of the country, to the reduced want of reve
nue, and to the payment of the public debt. Fully ron
| vinc.cd of the w isdom of the great principle of protecting
j domestic industry: having imbihvd a settled belief that it is
j essential to the maintenance of the best interests of the na
j (ton, and peculiarly important to the happiness and prospc
! rily ol my native State;—I have uniformly taken my part
j 1,1 , VI ' exertion so to arrange the duties as to a fiord ade
quate and ample security to the manufacturers. ,My lirst
rule ol proceeding Was, and invariably has been, to give
' l" d«»ne«llc mamilactnrea, if possible, the whole aid o| the
whole revenue,—to reserve all duties from imported arti
cles which do not enter into competition with our ow n pro
duce or fnt.rir, and to make their entry free. In the bill
under consideration, this principle is hilly cm bodied and
oniorcrd. 7o (hat oilonf, therefore,If mrcta my unnuali- -
bed approbation, and lias been sanctioned l.y troth Houses '
of Congress. Another rule of proceeding, early cniinciat- !
i d by my colleague, and readily embraced l.y many on
tins 11 nor, was so to improve the regulation* of collecting
| revenue as to deduce from new arrangements a measure
j ol protection to home industry somew hat proportionate to
wliat might he lost in the mere reduction of the amount of
I need not remind the Senate of the debates ol tl.c
mil m whirl., l.y various provisions, this object has al«o
been incorporate,I and attained. The (wo i.riucinle
/nation, my views, my ronvieti
any thing beard on this flow from
regulated my <>i conh oiled my leal inline nU nUtter I
c Xtlaiieoua llitlucitce. I believe, til inly aiwl sincerely bv
li»*v«». that if a lew articles undergo a diminution in the
amount of protection heretofore given them by law—a di
minution -omcwh.it disprojiorilnnate to tlial wiikh charac
terizes the general Male—the dillcrenco is not of sub
stantial ini|H>i l.mce, ami rannul seriously or permanently
alleel tliein. Sir, there i • ih*i an absolute nuei iliei* of any
one inteie l which ha- hern liclbro im. l,oui«iina cannot
— -cannot, consistently with the unvarying tenor of every
enquiry I havenr-tde ..iplnin of llio re<liiclinn of one half
cent Mig-ir. Kentucky, an to the cent on cotton Slag
ging. it will lie recollected was eipially divided in the Sc
Halt; ami (In increase we made ii|tun that article a-- eonipar
eil with the hill Iroin the House, alter h rving (in heen re
jecleil, was finally adopted hy it majorhy of one vote only.
It was impossible to lie wholly insen-Mile to the discord
iflit opinions o| the two Kentucky Senators up. n Si is -nib
jeet- ami nlihnugli I volcil In-loro ami woiiM willingly
now vole, to make assurance iloillily sure, lo gj-.-r the ail
<liti -it.il cent of duty, I cannot pn-leinl, ,,, th.s dt.idrd
stale o| the best opinions, to have a deep and positive con
viction one way or the oilier. The only really equivocal
point is that which relates to woollens. \\'e added lo the
Jifly l>cr cent, in (ho I iil ol the I louse, seven pee nut. ml
mini cm. This addition has not heen comm red in. It
had my decided approbation, and could I secure it |>y any
course ol action, consistent with a discharge of tlie general
stun ol inv duties here, I would do so. Then-port of the
1 ’omiiiiltee ol C’otiferciice, however, precludes Ml pros,
pccls ol that kind;—and I cannot avoid entertaining the.
hope, that, after all, tin- seven per cent., which some of its
most ardent advocates would agree lo make fire percent.,
cannot he absolutely and vitally necessary to the safe
ty ol thorn wJm arc engaged in the manufacture.
Sir, alllioiigh detci'liincd h> act upon die suggestion ot my
own independent mind and conscience, I must say, that il
Uicro he on (Ids topic of the Tariff—a gentleman upon
whoso intelligence, sagacity. j>i inciples and pcrsoverancc,
I would pin my faith as to controverted fads about the
rllirioney or inelliciem y of a given amount of protection_
that gentleman is the « li.drinaii of the S.-note’s Commit
teeot Manufacture's, (Mr, Dickerson.) He has devoted
many yeai > actively ami iintcntly to iJ;e encouragement
system, and effectual proi. cthui of all l)rpiiclt«« nml de
partments ot domestic industry. He is |,er«» tho official
an<l M’lOdod guunli'in of (In* niamij'.ictiiring inion aiul
we ill know Hie unlliiiching fidelity with which Ids task
h pci toi'ined. Now, sir, that eslecmoil gentleman recori
meuds ,m to torepi our additional duly of seven per cent ,
and lo he satisfied with (he fifty per cent, ml ralorcni,
approved hy the House ol Representatives. I go with
him:—I cannot be Hr otitnf the way when in liiscompa
iiy; and l yield to tho Chairman ot the Committee ot
M .intil.ietui es when he requests me lo recede. AJImdon Iras
heen made to the sentiments upon this great subject unani -
moualy expressed, within the last month, hy the Legists
tore ol Pennsylvania. The Resolutions ol that highly re
spected body arc now open before me. They manifest a
complimentary reliance upon (he discretion and fidelity ol
ilieu- {senators, which is appreciated with scn-ihilily, and
has not been and shall not he forgotten or disappointed, al
though roue h.-d 111 language which does not import the v
hav e all the hjrro ami Hficary ol pointed instruction-- and
we have rigidly conformed to them—ham* |,„tl, inclined
to do so, and hilly recognizing the right orthefionrr.il
Assembly lo ili« el our represenlative conduct. The me
senl predicament ol the subject may, indeed, seem to he
one lo which tho resolutions do not apply, and In exact
Iroin mysell and my colleague, a course of proceeding
w hich, m our judgments, w ill most strictly conform to this
spirit and design. Sir, In determining to recede, I shall
<lco| -V r4'^r<;l 11 *i»innif,ic(unn^ interext.s lo which I
have irlomjff, «r any otlicni, thall ixinuencc nnr, (lie
uc least injury. Infallible legislation cannot Iks hoped
or;—we arc as liable to error and mistake as oilu-r men-—
but as I sincerely believe that all with whom I have tho
hnnoi to be associated, are actuated by pure ami patriotic
motives, I cannot lint expect a general readiness to rente
my hereafter, hy special legislation, any mischiefs which
experience may prove to resit It |,om (lie defects or omis
sions ol our present act. The country is just now anx
iously, feverishly, waiting the close ol this protracted and
most interesting session. Tim excitements of Congres
siotul debate luve gradually spread through llie w hole
people. t\ e are imperatively call, d upon to end our de
liberations, and lo present to our constituents tho great
work upon which we have been engaged. Let us sub
mit Hus loll lo their scrutiny ari l operation. Should it
prove nnsnlisliiclory or destructive in any part, I have only
so express my readiness, il Providence, (lie 1'conlo and
my own In-e will permit me again to participate in your
proceedings, to supply what may he wanting, or to rectify
what may he wiong. J
am-1 some remarks from Mr. Clay,
i Itn Chair expressed the opinion, that die motion to re- I
roinmit would not ho in order, at this stage «.| die hill
Nothing could he committed hut the subjects disagreed to
hy the I louse of Representative*. The hill was not in the
power ol the Senate. Me should so decide when th0 mo
tmn was made, and lie Imped that the Senator.* w ho . ntcr
tam. d a different opinion would take an appeal from > is dc
J Ins (|ueslton w as then taken on receding from the
amendment inserting after the words, “komlal cottons ”
the words “the latter weighing not less than sixteen mm
res to the sijuarc yard,” and determined in the alii,.native
— i ens ;>f», Nays 10.
;n.c fiUMtiun then was on receding from the amendment
«>«"y «>" silver and plated wire, from live to
tu i nty-nvc per cent., which was agreed to
The Senate then receded from their next amendment,
raising the duty on japanned saddlery, from ten to tweniv
hvo per centum, without a division. 3
I lie Senate then receded from their next amendment,
changing the duty on ».iil duck—Yeas :j|, Nays i t
The Sc.atc then recoded from tl.cir amendment in
creasing the duty on cotton hagging—Yeas 2f) Nays 10
The Senate then receded from their amendment increas
mg the duty on hrovvn sugar— Yeas ,13, Nays lr>.
'I he Senate then receded from tlmir amendment in
creasing the duty on slates—Yeas II, Nays 7.
The Senate then receded from their amendment in
.--"gtho •*»">' on woollens 50 to 57 per cent.— Yeas 20,
Mi-. \\ tlkins, previous lo the lost vote, spoke in further
explanation of his course. When lie moved the confer
ence, some dissatisfaction was expressed lh.it the motion
shoiihl hr made hy any hut a member of the Committee
lie did not make the motion with any view to put himself
forward, or lo become n member of the Committee of Con
ference. lie Ik lie veil the Senate would do him the ins
tire lo admit (Imt, since he had been a member of this
body, he had exhibited no dcsiro In thrust himself for
w;".l in it. Some ol the remarks of the gentleman from
Massachusetts seemed to be intended as sarcastic. That
gentleman had expressed surprise that the interests
ol maniilacturers should he intrusted to one who had
taken no prominent pait in Hie debate, ami was not
a member ot the Committee which had the charge of the
subject. Hut at this stage of the business, all the mjnei
ples had been settled the votes had been declared, and in
every case an opinion had been formed and expressed
hero take occasion to say to the Senator from Mass, that I
have hern uniform in my support of manufactures, and I
never varied in my course in regard to them. This hill
had passed tlm House of Representatives hy the unparal
h-leil vole ol 132 to fin, m which the adversaries and friends
ol the protective system had united. The friends of the
system, he believed, by attempting to obtain a more advan
tageous bill incurred tlm hazard of losing the hill entirely.
I Ins stale of things he had not lost sight of. To show that
there was no ground lor sarcasm, and no ground for the
amusement which the gentleman from Maine, in his usual
idle strain had Indulged in, he would state that, after the
appointment of the Committee, he met the Senator from
South Carolina in the Committee Hoorn, and, in eon versa.
non, tom him, (lint lor in* guidance in Ibis buxines*, lie had
chalked out a course, from which lie should not depart—
a course not governed hy any particular incident, hut
settled in reference to .he existing state of the question,
lie might have been wrong; hut he entered upon the du
ties of the committee determined to do the best ho could to
settle this question. The country died (or an adjourn
ine.It of the question, and to procure it. he had determined
to yield every thing hut the woollens. So far ns the Sc
nate had gone with the amendments, they had sanctioned
his course, by agreeing to recede. The Report of the
Committee, so far, had been fully sustained. As long as
here was any chance to get the ... on wool
lens, I held out lor if. In no ease did I vote to adhere, ex
cept in regard to woollens. The Senator from South Ca
rolina moved to recede, and I went with him. The Sena
! tor from New Jersey did not, at first, hut ultimately "h.
yielded. The Mouse, by an . -
' . . r ,i - , - ■ » -j ■■■• unparalleled rnajoiifv, had
agreed to ft* the duty on woollens al 50 per rent—When
\t' rn.f 'V,'S "i,h Committee Of'
Mamif.icturcs, to Increase the duty on woollens. I voted
for the minimum, and for the sixty per rent., ahd I vot
ed for the fifty-seven per cent. It was but a little
ITn n “I /' ,,0f°rc b"{ voting for
tins little, I have been denounced in language which I
never wish to boar in the Senate. The Chairman of the
C ommittee of Manufacture, was willing to split the dif
feronce atid lake three. and „ half percent. Hut even1
lliat could not be obtained, nor cottid fifty-two per cent, be 1
got. When nothing was to he gained by bolding out, I
when wc bad gone to the very verge, I yielded. It is now )
lor the Senate o say whether I was right or wrong. I?e
fore determined lo give up this amendment, I eon
suited the Senator from New Jersey, who assented to
ts abandonment. If I have gone wrong, I have gone
in good company. Mr. Wilkins went on lo show j
hat the prompt pay of duties, the val.Mlior, of the pound ,
striding and other provisions of the bill aflorded some equi- j
v,.lenl lor the redurlmn of (he woollen duly. The Id*! !
afforded, he thought, a reasonable proddim, ||lo wool- !
Jens manufacturer. Me put Ibis ca*o; An Kngli.h manu- !
farturer sends one hundred yards of cloth, worth ot
b'li".""! dollars, to New York, at , eonmlcraldo e J
for freight, insurance, fee. The American man
incets it i|,ere wilh one hundred yards oi Ids
also one.hum,.ed dollars. It.-h.re (hey go^Wuuo ma
Ml Tor purchasers, Ihe government interferes and fake
t-y Way y| protecting the American roefiufaclurci filly
'orfb
y.ii'l* nl the i !>uii In longing (« tin- t.ngli-h tii.u.nla.tiiiii
S\ as llil > .1 suilicicnt amount of protection; lie ili<l nut
jn i tend to -ay that it \\ as. Hilt it wu all that couhl ho
m>t now. Alter tho cuufcreuce wnsovcr, I remarked to the
Senator from $. Carolina, that wo died hard. We had I
endeavored to got nil wo could; and I mentioned that I wax
(ho more content wiih the duly on woollens fixed by the ]
hill, inasmuch as a gentleman ol great experience in tlio j
woollen nianulacluro had informed tnc by letter received i
that day, that in his opinion, 00 percent, was an adequate !
protection, taken together with the other provi-iotu of the '■
ti’ll. I In* writer ol tlris letter is a citizen of Pennsylvania, j
w ho thoroughly understood the subject, and was formerly [
the t liatrman ol the Committee o( Manufactures in the!
1 other Holts.., The Senate will recollect that there was no
! amendment ns to iron adopted here, and that the iron du- ;
ties did not come under the notice ol the Committee ol Con- j
! *crciiro. I hough the duty on that article was considera
bly reduced, In* acrptlcseed in ils reduction. It had been I
-sited, hi a reproachful tone, why sugar had been sedeeted !
as one ol the Milijeets ot surrender, lie would submit it I
1 to tin- Senator from la)iii*iau» (M r. J oil listen) whether that ;
interest was sacrificed by the hill. The CommHlco had
no hostility to that interest, hut they could not have pre
served I lie .uiiciiUiucut, without losing the hill.
Mr. Holmes said. In* had not any idol that lie knew of.
\boost every tiiim, though, lind hisnlut. The Senator from
I’ennsyIvania might have an idol, in llto ollice lor which
he was a candidate, and to that idol lie might have sacrllic
, ed the woollens inti rest. He had nothing himsclt where
with to amuse the Senate, and he had only allhdcd to the
unuMiig description given by the Senator from South Ca
rolina ol this course ol lus colleagues in the Committee.
I lie Senator Iroin Pennsylvania supported tin* woollens
, duty with all his might, ami gave it up. He confessed he
j disliked the composition of tins Committee. One member
was ultra-anti-tai ill; another was a esndhlufo for the Vice
I Presidency; and the third was an old bachelor, who cared
| nothing lor posterity—whereas we, Sir, aro legislating for
| posterity.
Mr. u ubiior remarked that tlio Senator from Pcnmyivfl*
nia must have desired to Ik: a member of the Committee of
Conference, ns he could not have ex|>cctc(l to l>o treated
with so much extraordinary di-respect ns not to he put on
the Committee raised on his own motion. When lie mine
into the Senate ('handier, he found that the motion had
liecn made. lie said it was an extraordinary motion for a
gentleman to make w ho, dining the progress of (lie hill,
had taken no interest in it. lint 1 concurred in the ap
pointment ol the Committee, supposing that they would, in
Conference, act as the advocates of the viewsof the Senate.
As said before, if I had supposed that I was signing a
power pf attorney to authorize the surrender of the points
contended for by the Senate, I would have withheld my
It the Senator from Pennsylvania had said to us, a*
lie now says, ffi at it was his intention to give up nineteen
o( the twenty amendments ol the Senate and die hard in gi v
( M t lltll ill, |i ovuni iinTC •ll.VICUIICU
icir negotiator. 1 ,Vc Senator now rays that Idscourse
Mie.l by the votes oi the Senate. Can a balanced
him ns their I
is sanction*..... .__ ____
Senate oppose the report of the c.\oiiiPUttcc of Conference?
are the Senate amendments rbreu-od from? Because
Whj
they have no longer the aid oi tlit? gentleman's vote.
II 57 per rent, was little to receive, it wao ''HI® to part
with, argues tlic gentleman, non sequitnr. il fifty per
cent, brings it to a balance, (lie addition ol seven per’ cent,
w ill turn tlic scale. '1 he Senator had spoken cl the i*ui
paralleled vote by which the I rouse passed the bill, Ini'*
lie I bought nothing ol the vote by wliicli the amendment..'
passed the Senate. Tile bill as amended, passed the Se
nate by a vote ol .(2 to 10. T he whole majority, in the
other House, against the additional duty on woollens of 7
per cent, was, as lie had been iutormr.d, only six or seven
votes. Still the Senator says lie died hard. I won’t say
it was a dishonorable death, hut 1 do say it was a blood
less one.
Mr. Haync said this was a small matter. A different
course would have led to an irrcconcileahle disagreement.
The amendments having been disposed of,
Mr. Haync moved to re-commit the bill, with instruc
tions for its modifications in certain icspects.
The Chair decided that the motion was not in order, and
could not he received.
Mr. Poindexter rose not, lie said, to discuss the ques
tion, lint to move the indefinite postponement of the bill.
II he voted for the bill, he should sanction the protective
principle, lie should concede to Congress the power to lay
taxes for classes and interests,—for the benefit of privileg
ed orders. lie should, by voting lor this hill, concede a
principle which might be carried to a most mischievous
extent. \\ hat is the bill but a bill for the protection of
American mmiufacluicrs? And, in its details, it is infinite
ly worse than the bill of 1828, which w as a hill of abomi
nations? As a bill of protection, he was opposed to it, and
lie therefore moved its indefinite postponement.
Mr. 1‘oraytii briefly gave his reasons for voting against
the. motion. He protested against the principlc"ol pro
tor linn, lint lip u in fn unt* a i «i.a i.zii .... s*_ •.
. , ■ , r*.* i'isiiviimi; wi mu
lection, but lie was m favor ot the hill, so far as it pro
vided for a modification of the revenue.
Mr. Mnngutn said ho could not give his vote in favo
ol this hill, without falsifying all the principles lie ha
ever professed.
Mr. King said he should vote for the hill because h
preferred it to the latiir ol 1S28, and the only questio
presented to him was, wlicthci he should take this bill o
the existing tarill.
Mr. liaynn said ho had (intone more word to say be
lore the final question was taken. From the hcginniii:
ol the session up to the present moment, he had, with tin
most period good faith, voted for every proposition, mu
used his utmost efforts to riled such a modification of th.
tarill as should remove existing difficulties and do eqtta
justice to all parts of the country. The bill had been pit
into the form w hich the tarill majority In both House
had thought proper to give it, and il now only remained fo
him at this last stage ol its progress, to record his senti
ments in relation lo it. He had examined its provision
carefully. He was perfectly sati-dicd that it did no
propose to cflect a reduction in the revenue of more that
Irom three to four millions of dollars, mid of this, noarlt
the whole amount was on unprotected articles. So fa
it aggravated the injustice and inequality of w hich (hi
Ninth bad so loudly complained, ’i bis bill recognizes tin
protecting system—it has been arranged throughout, ot
the single principle of laking care of the interest of the inn
nularturcrs, and w as now openly supported by the tarif
parly, on llie ground that thi* protection was adequate t<
the object, an.I it had been openly avowed, that, if i
should, in any rase, prove otherwise, further protcctioi
u l'croaf,er extended. The duties retained In
(Ills bill, were most m.reasonalile and exorbitant— 57 pe
cent, upon woollens, upwards of 100 per cent, upon col tom
and iron, and still higher upon «nlt and sugar, w hile article:
ot luxury, only hcraiiflc they did not come into rompctitioi
with domestic manufactures, were to be admitted duty free
He regarded this bill ns fixing the system upon the roun
try forever, beyond hope of future relief. Ife should
therefore, vote for its indefinite postponement, and if the
lull w as to pass, he would leave the rcsponsibili ty of a mca
sure fraught with such fatal consequences toothers.
The Vote wastl.cn taken on the motion for indefinite
postponement, mid lost.
n'M’’ n,ync, Holmes, M.ngutn
Miller, Moore, Nnudain, Poindexter, Hot,bins, Kuggles
1 azowell, IVoup, Tyler, arid Waggntnan*—1ft.
-Voy.,-Messrs. Benton, Drown, Chambers, Clay, Dal
las, Dickerson, Dudley, Kllis, Kwing, Foot, Forsyth Fro
Imghuyscn Ornnily, Hendricks, Hill, Johnston, Kane
King, Kmght, Marey, Robinson, Seymour, Sllslice, Smith
Sprague, Tipton, Tomlinson, Webster, White, and Wil
kins—30.
So the motion to postpone, was losl; and (lie report ol
(he Committee of Conference being sustained, the hill
was passed, and required only the signature of the I’rosi
dent to hccomc a hiw.
THE AFTER riECE.
Jfr l*,ft «lo!»nte upon (he President's vc(o was closed,
nil . ( lay produced a scene in (lie Senate which struck the
crowd m the galleries and Senate Chamber, collected to
hear the end of a speech which Mr. Henton had began (lie
day before, with astonishment.—It has been the subject of
conversation lor several days in the city, and all speak of it
Will, wonder: of the friends of Mr. Hay, some express
mortification and sorrow, othersdisplcasiire and disappoint
We present a report which we have submitted to many
individuals who were present, and which is ndmitted to
be substantially correct in every particular. The Reporter
to this paper, Air. Kingman, by whom it was taken down,
is no Iriend of the administration, and cannot be suspected
of .1 wish to do Mr. Clay injustice. The very language is
preserved with much precision, and there is not, we be
lieve, an epithet lost on either side.
In giving thisviolent altercation to the public, we can
f iittf rnifiiiiil «l at... i i m « . _ . .
not but remind it, of the repealed instances in which Mr.
.'i"'-'" '' H01*,,in,!,clr. i" making violent personal at
.- r. .... malting
lacks during the present Session. His outrage on the
venerable Senator from Maryland, Gen. Smith : his vio
ent attack on Mr. Gallatin, made in his first Speech, and
repeated in Ids last: his insulting abuse of Mr. Sarchet:
Ins attacks on Messrs. Tazewell, Hill, Wilkins, and other
gentlemen of the Senate, to say nothing of his phillippic
nl,0fJ ,* " an Huron, ftfifl flic criticism upon that gentle
man s dress while discussing the veto, all had tended to
prepare the public to believe that he would not hesitate to
indulge his feeling* at the expense of the Senators, or any
others who were in a condition to respond to him. Ihit
who could have imagined, that standing in the relation he
does at present, he would have alluded to matters personal
to the I resident, which even the lowest of the editorial
corps have become ashamed to reiterate. Kvery man
mm * l'«t>k with contempt upon this poor, electioneering ar
tifice of Mr. Clay, nnd despise the malignant temper which
could employ such means, on such an occasion, to reach
Uh* feeling* of the Chief IVfnpjsfrjife.
, ,r ** Mr. Henton is concerned, not one of his friends
wc imagine will regret that the opportunity was offered
■in.! ' 1 “ Clay with the opprobrium he deserved.
ihifwn himself every way capable of tak
, <l:'y 'n his Intemperate and head«tronir
course—and the latter gentleman is now in the condition of
a court-yard bravo, of whom we heard in the west, who
alter seeking a quarrel, and having at last found an anfago-’
m-f exclaimed: ••/ have turn hunting n fight nil ,l„u
••anil nou I him got a Jight—J'm afraid to fight’'
Alt< i Mi llculon li.nl« hid lie* <1 hi* Min.uk.
Mr. Clay iwt) and said:—The Siaialur lioiu Mi^iouri
expressesdismal i •.faction tli.it tlx; apccchfn ol some Sena
tors should fill tho Kallerioi, If« has no ground for unca
•Inew on this score. For.il it he tho fortune of some Sena
tors to till the galleries when they speak, it is the fortune
of others to empty them, with whatever else they (ill the
chamber. The Senator from Missouri has every reason to
ho well satisfied with the rlTect ot his performance to-day;
for among Ids auditors is a ! idy of great literary eminence.
[Pointing to Mrs. lfoyal.J The Senator intimates, lint in
my remarks on tho message of .tho President, I was defi
cient in a proper degroe of courtesy towards that ollicer.
Whether my deportment here he decorous or not, I should
not choose to lie derided u|kiii by the gentleman from Mis
souri. 1 answered the President’s arguments, and gave
my own views of Hie facts and inferences introduced by
him into Ids message. The President states that tho Hank
has an injurions operation on the interests ot tho West,
and dwells upon it»r exhausting effects, its stripping tho
country of its currency, fee. and upon these views and
statements I commented in a manner which tho occasion
callcdj'or. Hut, it I am to be indoctrinated in the rules ol i
decorum, I ahull not look to the gentleman lor instruction,
i shall not strip him of Ins Indian blankets to go to Boon’s
l.iek for Ic-sons in deportment, nor yet to the Court of Ver
sailles, which he eukigiy.es. i hero arc some peculiar rea
sons why I should not go to that Senator lor my view s of
decorum, in regard to my hearing towards the Chief Ma- i
gistrate, and why lie is not a tit instructor? I never had
any personal rencontre with the President of the Cuilcd j
States, 1 never complained ol any outrages on my per- j
son committed by him. 1 never published any bulle- :
lins respecting bis private brawls. The gentleman w ill i
understand my allusion. [Mr. Denton said; lie will
understand you, Sir, and so will you him.] I nevei
complained, (bat while a brother ol mine was down
on the ground, senseless or dead, he received another blow, j
: I have never made any declaration like the.se relative to
| the individual who is President. There is also a singular
prophecy as to the consequences of the. election of this in- i
| dividual, which far surpasses, in evil km lnxling, whatever
l may have said in regard to his election, i titt er made
any prediction so sinister; nor nimle any declaration so
harsh, as that which is contained ill the prediction to which
I allude. I never declared my apprehension and belief, 1
that if lie were elected, wo should be obliged to legislate
with pistols and dirks by our side. At this last stage of
the session I do not riso to renew tho discussion ot this
question. I only rose to give the Senator Irom Missouri a
full acquittance, ami I trust there will be no furtlrer occa
sion lor opening a new account with him.
Mr. lienton replied. It is true, Sir, that I had an affray
w ith General Jackson, and that I did complain of his con
duct. We fought, Sir, and wc fought, I hope, like men.
When the explosion was over, there remained no ill will,
on either side. No vituperation or system of petty perse
cution was kept up betw een us. Yes, Sir, it is true, that
I had the personal difficulty, which the Senator from Ken
, lucky has had the delicacy to bring before the Senate,
i But let me tell the Senator Iroin Kentucky there is no
adjournal question of veracilt/ between me and General
: Jackson. All diliiculty between us ended with the con
flict; and a few months after it, I believe that either party
] would cheerfully have relieved the other Irom any peril,
| and now we shake hands and are friendly when we meet.
I repeat, Sir, that there it) no adjourned question of rc
| raeity between me and General Jackson, standing over
for settlement. IT there had been, a gulf would have
| .eparated us as deep as Hell.
jVlr. Jjonion then referred to the prediction alleged by
Mr. Clay* to have been made by him. 1 liave seen, he
said, a nia-ard, lirst issued in Missouri, and republished
lately. It i’rsi* appoareil in 1823, mid stated that I had said,
in a public •*« s*> that it Gen. Jackson should he elected
we must he guai.de.'l with pistols and dirks to derend onr
sclvcswhilc Icgisliuhig here. This went the rounds of the
papers at the time. ,J gentleman, well acquainted in the
State of Missouri, (Col. j. '"'Jess,) published a handbill de
nying the truth of the statin*, if, and calling upon any per
son in the State to name the Jii"'ie and place, when and
where any such address had been f.**ord troin me, or any
such declaration made. Col. Lawless was peilectly fa
miliar with the campaign, tint he could nov.^r meet with a
single individual, man, woman, or child, in i.'ie tftate, who
could recollect to have ever heard any such reiur'vks from
me. No one came forward to reply to the call, tone
had ever heard me make the declaration which was charged
upon nic. The same thing lias lately been printed lib!*1,
and, in the night, stuck up in a placard upon the posts a no
walls ot this city. While its author remained concealed,
it was impossible forme to hold him to account, nor could
I make him responsible, who, in the dark, sticks it to tlic
posts and walls, hut since it is in open day introduced into
•his chamber, I am enabled to meet it ns it deserves to lie
met. I see who it is, (hat uses it, here, and to his face
[pointing to Mr. Clay,J 1 am enabled to pronounce it, as 1
now do, an atrocious culumtn/.
Mr. Liny:—The insertion that tlicrc is “an adjourned
question ot veracity” between me and (Jen. Jackson, is
whether made by man or master, absolutely false. The
President made a certain charge against me, and be referred
to witnesses to prove it. I denied tbo truth of (he charge.
He called upon bis witness to prove it. 1 leave it to Hie
country to say whether that witness sustained the truth of
the President s allegation. 1 iiat witness is now on bis
passage to St. Petersburg!!, with a commission in bis pock
et. (Mr. ISenlon here said aloud, in bis place, the Mis
sissippi and the fisheries—Mr. Adams and the fisheries_
every body understands it.] Mr. C. said I do not yet un
I dersl.iml tbo Senator. He then remarked upon the “pre
i the lion which the Senator from Missouri had disclaimed.
Can be, raid Mr. C., look to me and say that lie never
used the language attributed to him in the placard'which
be refers to? He says, Col. Lawless denies that lie used
the words in the State of Missouri. Can you look me in
Hie face, Sir, [addressing Mr. Ih-nton.] and say that you
never used that language out of (lie State of Missouri?
Mr. Benton. I look, Sir, and repeat that it is nn atro
cious calumny, and I will pin it to him who repeats it here.
Mr. Clay. Then I declare before the Senate that von
said to me the. very words— J
[Mr. Benton in his place, while Mr. Clay was yet speak
J."K, *<t-JPral times loudly repeated the word “false, false,
Mr. Clay said, I (ling hack the charge of atrocious rn
Itunny upon the Senator from Missouri_
A call to order was here heard from several Senators
flip President jno lent., said, the Senator from Kentuc
ky is not in order and must take his scat.
Mr. Clay. Will the Chair state the point of order’
J he Chair, said Mr.Tuzewi.il, (Hie President pro tern.,)
can enter into no explanations with the Senator.
Mr. Clay. I shall he heard. I demand to know what
point ol order c an he taken against me, which was not
equally applicable lo the Senator from Missouri.
file President pro tern., stated, that he considered the
whole discussion asout of order. He would not have pc
"iitted it had he been in the Chair at its commencement.
Mr. Poindexter said, he was in the Chair at the com
mencement ol the discussion, and did not then see lit to
check it. Hut he was now of the opinion that it was not
in order.
Mr. Benton. I apologize to Ihc Senate for the manner
j" 1 •‘Token; hut not to the Senator from Ken
Mr. Clay. To Bin Senate 1 alsooficr an apology. To
the ttciintor from Missouri none. • ^
The question was hero called for by several Senators
ami it was taken as heretolorc reported.— Globe.
DOMESTIC.
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71
13
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20
53
72—115
60
21
50
02
153
■ CHOLERA AT NEW YORK.
JYitw rases.
July 13. In private house* 20
At Ih'llevue 35
Four other hospital* 30
.fuly I I. In private house*
At Hellevuc
Other hospital*
July 15. In private house*
At Ih'llevue
Other hospital*
July 10. In private house*
At ih'llevue
Other hospital*
I July 17. In private house*
At Hcllcvue
I Other hospitals
July 18, In private houses
At Ih'llevue
Other hospital*
July 10. In private houses
At Hollevun
Other hospitals
Deaths.
12
22
20
59
15
-61
ii—tit;
28
03
71 — 163
00"
55—8 1
45
1 I
60
95—145
05 *
13
28
19
2(>
-94
73—138
111
11 —til
22
II
77
88—207
50
12
72
10—82
, .. . 1- " nn—sW* IU—Mi
i lie New York American of Wednesday *aV« **The
cholera wa* mitigated yesterday, and it- victims were
more remarkably even than hel'ore round among the most
miserable ami degraded of o„r population—white. Mark
unci colored.
“A strong evidence either of the mitigated violwnce ol
the disease, or ol improved treatment of It, may he deduc
ed from the fact that, of the 10 raw* left over yesterday at
the (.recnwich hospital, 17 were convalosent.
,’i® huilding formerly known a* the Sailor’s Snug
Harhor, is used as a house of reception lor the well but
poor persons who are removsd from had neighborhoods.”
V , 1 1 r,,,,,,’ra prevailed fiercely at Quebec, it was
said that person* of color were not attacked with it—there
was a pretty good reason for (hi*, a* there were hardly two
dozen persons of color in Quebec—but at New York, Al
>aiiy, K.C. them arc attacked and die—like Other people.
a t a i. n a nr.
jYctn Cases
22
28
2.1
23
27
17
23
July 10.
July 11.
July 12.
July 13.
July 14.
July 15.
July 10.
Philadelphia.—The Hoard of Health reported 5 earn
of Cholera and 3 deaths on the fifth insf. On the 17th, on<
Deaths.
8
9
7
7
0
0
8
Of 11,.-... 141 ,
' utted in lh.i neiahtsfihfKM
v m tr I the five I’uints
«.! <•. N"H( iimc It ini'* ,U„„l,„t»> ol <■ tiiy will pre
vent the cholera, I’hil.idelpln > nifty Ihj cX|M'rtcd Iv rnrii|ie.
Her IhuiiiUIuI supply ol water u freely used to wash u||
tlic streets, lanes aiul alleys ; and great exertions have
’’cen made to remove nil sorts of tilth from private proper
ties. 1
Since the prevalence of the disease in New Yojk, thir
teen prostitutes, being in one house, were attacked hy the
cholera, and of these ten died.
I he tailoring and the poorer classes of persons at New
\ ork, arc sulh-ring much bemuse of the want of employ
ment—business generally being suspended. A meeting
had been held to administer to their wants.
Cases of cholera have appeared at Westfield, Plainfield,
Now Brunswick, Newark, and a few oilier places in New
Jersey. In Newark, Indeed, the disease seemed to have
made a location, among the worst classes of society. Mea
sures were taken to expel it hy removing the lilthy anil
purifying their abodes. An old house hi which it first ap
peared had been destroyed by tire—evidently by design.
A very large majority of the deaths at New York, by
the cholera, have been of persons ol the most dissolute
habits—prostitutes and continued drunkards, or others
much stinted as to the ordinary comforts of life, crammed
together in «inall and filthy houses, cellars, fee." All large
cities abound with such wretched inhabitants—but New
York, perhaps, more flian others in the U. S. as well lie
cause of its larger population, as from being the receptacle
ot a chief part of tho emigrants from Europe—7,000 and
Upwards arrived in (bat city Inst month, many of whom
were altogether destitute ot present means of subsistence
— and the stoppage ol business has prevented such em
ployments as some would have obtained, under dlflcront
circumstances. A tew steady and respectable persons
have, however, recently died.' Many thousands of the in
habitants ol N. York have lied to the country, and the city'
was still rapidly emptying of its pcnph». fhc Journal of
Commerce suggests that one-third of the population havo
abandoned their business ami homes* The disease now
seems scattered nearly over all the city, but was raging
most fearfully about the famous “Five Points”—which is
the very sink of human degradation.
Cases have ap|*eared in many of the villages and towns
of New York—we notice the following: Seneca Falls,
: f.yons, Rochester and lhinalo— hut the instances were
few.
The
The whole number ol deaths in New York in the week
ending July 11, was 510; of them 386 were of the clmlcra;
an<l 18 by «hc common cholera.
The vicar general of New York, Dr. Tower-, in the ab
sence o( the human ( utholic bishop, has granted permis
sion to eat llesli on Fridays amt Saturdays, during the pre
valence ot the epidemic, and added many cutumendablo
cautions (or the preservation of health; so, nls<y,has the co
adjutor of the bishop of Philadelphia.
Tho Courier and Enquirer says:—The disease Is now, .
more than even before, rioting in the haunts of infa
my and pollution. A prostitute, af 62 Mott stroct, who
was decking herself before the glass at 1 o'clock yesterday,
was carried away in a hearse at hall past 3 o’clock. The
broken down constitutions ot these miserable creatures,
perish almost instantly on the attacks of cholera. Ihtt tin;
business part ot our population, in general, appears to bo
in perfect health amf security. Of the small number of
persons of regular habits who have suffered, In every case
ot which we ImCc heard the history, with a single excep
tion, some art of great imprudence has been committed, or
the distinct premonitory symptoms been neglected. After
all, not a single merchant has died, and only one has been
attacked; ami we do not believe that one half tho religious
societies ol the city have lost a single member.
A letter from Montreal of a late date says the “siege is
over, and add-—“It is satisfactorily ascertained that very
lew persons under age have died, and therefore, if we add
to our resident population ol 31,000—the probable number
ot emigrants 1,000—making 35,000, ami take 1-6th as the
number of adults, say less than 6,000, wc have had a death
out ol every 6 persons liable to the disease—such a week
a-the one Irom tho 17th to the 2-lth, I ligvc never seen,
anti hope never will be repeated. Imagination ran Pearce
ly conceive a more distressing time. The inquiry made
was not who is sick, hut who arc dead ami buried. Many
who rose with the morning’s sun, alive, end healthy, were
ere Usct, beyond the reach of human ills.
Quebec—The whole number of deaths by cholera, from
the 8th ot June to the 2d of July, in the "city, is 1,-121.
greatest number in any day was 1-13, on the 15tli
.1 he mortality began to diminish on the 21st, when
I there wore 70 deaths; and it has been gradually decreasing,
vhi (lie the 2d July, tlie deaths were twenty-one.
i'u the two hospitals, the total number of deaths to tho
-itll J'f'y was 506. The greatest number was June 15th,
II; Ju'v "■id. 5; July 4th, S. In hospitals last dato 75.
Total of admissions 809.
The population in 1831 was 27,562. Estimated stangers,
10,000. llntio of tf.'Whs to population, nlmut 1 to 19.
Total number of ein.'^rants ariived, 33,190.
A letter from Quebec dated July 5 says—
“A most singular thing occurred here yesterday. One of
tho horses employed in drawing the sick cart was taken
with the staggers, and soon dibit. Another was procured,
and lie aNo was seized with the same disease, ami died al
so; and this morning a third was attacked in the same way.
It was predicted by a naval ofliccr, who bad seen the cho
lera in the East Indies that alter it had abated, the dogs
" on Id many ol I hem, go mad. ‘This has been tho case with
a good many at Montreal, but I have heard of none here.”
It is strongly advised, in all cases, that medicine should
not be used toprevi nt, or cure tlio cholera, except on ad
vice given by regular physician-.
I he authorities ol IIIkmIc Island have established an ex
rlusive quarantine to prevent the introduction of the rho
lera. The steamboats from New York have not been per
mitted to laud their pa-sengers.
Cleveland, O, July 10, (7 o'clock, P. M.)—h ha- al
ready been reported that the steamboat Henry Clay, for
Chicago, with soldier*, had tho cholera on hoard. It i*
now fully settled : she proceeded up a- far a- tort (Iratiof,
and it raged so badly that she discharged all her soldiers
ami oliicer-, and lost two of her own men with cholera.
She, with the remainder of her crew, steered for litiffilo,
but on tier way six more of her crew having been taken,
she put in here and came along side the pier just before
d.ii .i last night. One man died last night; another is not
expected to live. Tho others it is thought will recover.
\ mnnaNo died on hoard another vessel yesterday* just ns
■die entered the harbor, which was railed cholera. A man
-ickencd last night under tin; hill. The physicians, Long
Mills and Melnto-h, say it was the cholera.
Tho cholera is raging in Detroit, anil all the men at
home * 10 i""1 vc,stls have left and gono
All our groceries are closed, and every person forbid
dealing m ardent spirits tinder a heavy penalty. Moro
than three hundred persons have left the village since last
evening. °
Dctlci n fi nm Detroit of July 8, have been received;
and expressed a fear that the service will be seriously
allected by sickness among the soldiery. Maim- (Jen.
‘ cott had pushed on, with his advance to do what ho could
by hi- presence.
Only one case of a suspicious chancier had appeared
among the inhabitants of Cleveland, In a person of exces
sively intemperate habits. Two cases had happened at
Detroit—one ol them in a drunken and filthy person—tho
habits of the other were not known.
J.ntcr from Detroit—Tile Hoard or health Ins an
non need 17 rases of malignant cholera, 9 of which had
caused death—5 were soldiers. The rapilol had been con
verted info a hospital.
ill* Mid that 200 of the troop* landed at fort L’raflot had
deserted mid lied in every direction lor fear nl the elioli
ahont 30, (o( the detachmunt of 370) having died, A
Kood many other eases had appeared in other dclnrlimcnlsr
ol the army—very 1 w that were attacked recovered.
JjiirRcon hvorett was very low at fort Hraliot, and Lieut.
Llay.t ot the -1th, had died.—A'iln’ fillister.
•The Hc'criptiims of some of tlmso fteposits of u-rclchodncss urn
r 'V"U,(I '"'"J’ lhil,k *,,pd, tldngit rotilil l,o. Twtdvo
'?'"}vo ,M"J" townd i'i one small house. Hovernl
«efe hlng dead in this liouso nt one dine.
t {■»''»• f'lny, dice use. I, has l.eon sn..l to lie the son of Mr. Ony, of
V. nrr' ^Tl "" "" i"'"’' u*,>f a™'1"®1*"1 •" West Point, Is mount
nry. J l,o army list has n lient. .h„rh Olay, in “t!,o hi.*’ infan
The Report of (he Hoard of Health of New York gives
the new eases in private houses at lit, and death* at 12—
at IK ICVUC and other Hospitals at HH, and deaths 10—be
inK 202 cases in all, and 82 deaths. Hut this apparent In*
cease is ascribed l.y the New York Evening Host to a late
, re filial ion or the ( orporalion which subject* every phv*i
ri.in to a fine of $50 who does not report every case of
( holer i coming within liis ivaclice—82 deaths arc greater
Ilian are reported on any day, except on the 15th and the
10th—the latter being ns high as Ot.—The Evening Host,
however, add*,' that the cn.-.e* in the Hospitals are he
coming of a different and lea* iiighitnl character.
'V e shall present also a sketch of its attacks in oilier
places, where it has appeared;_
Brooklyn—0 cases ol cholera, am, fi deaths.
Near ~Xewlawn—a imlk*roan dead, who had been to
New Y ork.
In j\“nr Jewry~on the canal between Millstone and
Origgslown, 10cases, anti 7 deaths. These among the la
borers on I lie canal, will, very filthy l.ahits, and crowded
up in llieir sbantees.
nrh~ 1 ' child >2 years old.
Albany—29 new rf„C9 reported on the ldlh, of wW-h
10 very severe, and 7 deaths. 1 v
It o f better—2 rases of malignant cholera on (he 1 itlr_
neither case originated there, but one Loin Medina, a„d
t nt f ™in "*W York—both cases ave under trc*t
Detroit—2 rases on tho |0th, 1 of a person very intern*
perate in Ins habits—died in nine hours.
t ub7"‘91 c**°*iM "II. nntl 12 or 11 deaths
Lieut, f day, of the Infantry, from New Jersey, (not H
Cvav 0 dead. ' '
Wo iia<l some rumors of a ease or two in finlHmore
but they are not confirmed, anil are entirely disbelieved*
. THE IN HI A N WAR.
rhe following intelligence is extracted from the ♦(slenl*
•H, dated^lth of July. It j», we believe, the tales! arid
,^!nX'r",hT nrm'nt of *,,“0 of 1 n«Jlan War on the
rvoilli western (rootlet:—titobe.
“Sr-AT or W M,.” Line 27 An exp-css reached (own