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(Cetiaed am irVst Paws.) have bees faly a' the war amsin bhi. kaesm would have ba, OVeI we shegit hlve been in it.- The Brit IchJbr- 'ddageehi. Idi aU tb them~Wg It esult M.It W Ws step. whegre f do. If for ae to wa tha Is to beemiee a tr, then a traitor I Ma waling to be. as, dear reader you see this pre e"sr Number g6U, is no more afraid at iS lolai Lonin that he is ot Mihelil Palmer. "How 4o you explain it?" I per "I thak[ it is probably ignorane. repied, "I dost believe Lonin the men around him understand anytking about some other couftris. T"ey seem actually td believe that Iagla** is ready for a revplutios like the one in Russia. They do not know how much. it meant to chal lese the hypocrisy of Lloyd George. to defy him to go to war, and they believe the Labor Party could have done much more. It would have been madness. "And in this country," I put in, 'I hear from friends of Lenin that he implies we are on the verge of rev9lution also." "Yes," he answered, "apparently be doe. How,foolish it would be! Obr Communist party in this coun try, with its doctrine of being pre in advance to take control by to when the opportunty comes, is not giving strength. It is giving weakness. It is pot by arming that strength comes; It is by persuasion. To try to use force now is only to drive away those -who might be with us. When we have persuaded enough persons, when thereby it is time for us to rule, when the occasion comes, then the strength will, be given to NO NEED OF VIOLENCE. Here Debs volunteered something, without, any suggestion from me, that I must say startled me, as I, like everybody else, had4mbibed un consciously from the newspapers the conception of a much less req sonable man. Debs stopped, went almost out of his way, to interpolate the statement that the Constitution of the United States is so drawn that it enables the people without vio lenwe to obtaib 1 by amendment any kind of government they may desire. - . It would do our fire-eaters some good to compare that statement by. Debs with a certain passage about amendment and revolution in Abra ham Lincoln's first inaggural. This question of force is all essen tial, and I wanted to drive it still nearer home. So I mentioned the bomib in Wall street, and asked him what he would do if he were Presi dent?" is the way I put it. "I hope," he said, "if Debs were President such a thing would not pccur." "Yes," I said, "I know what you mean; but I am talking across you to my conservative friends. I want an answer for them." "Well," Debs cried willingly, "do we know who threw thai bomb? Let me ask you a question; it is a rea sonable one. WHO BENE 'ITED? iWHO BENEFITED?" I nodded. "You mean a plant?" SPIES STIR UP TROUBLE. "No matter how indirect," he went On, "how remote, the sleuths benefit. Thousands of them are making a harvest today because that bomb went off. Can you trace their influ ence? You cannot, I know, I whp tell you. I have spent a lifetime with them. 'There is not a union, not a local in this whole country, without its spy. They are everywhere. Their business is to stir up trouble, to di vide, to make discord between orne element and another, and to betray us to the enemy. Once, long ago, I wanted to take a step in secret.I found it was Immediately known to the enemy. So I learned that any attempt to acconiplish anything in secret Is folly. Nothing can be done that is of any use except what is done In the open. "But about this bomb, I speak of the detectives because they profit by Sbut other causes may be mention How about the Administration? How about the suppression of free secthe Imprisonments for con rito? That may be a real cause, where the bomb is only a result. I have worked against violence all 25c SHIAMPOO Best for the Halr N thng lselike it. Snow w 'e ubes of vnlmfid cocoenut oil. Each cube a perfect shampoo. Makes a thick, creamy lather which Is very cleansing. Will not split, discolor or injure the hair. 25# abox (12 shampoos). two o ts not 9 s aaiet ut iti heak ouis t make tom Oik a ,Nil..T The idea t ad iethae said t" eidDebe r witedie t I s.i. a..t. wa..,se hi ifmeagerntf? We wa ktw,e weI experaene of a ieimeIt I th this couty e a m could The AdIIstrat ifrethey Pul opinion is evGa tmh\Ians me weuhei is at tan ?" You have said it! cried Daeh cried I writ, to cdicte the fw BLAMES TAE l UWSPAP3US. No dificuies here, no doubt ; all eagernes, for ere weso the ritte experienced of a lafeye. "It Is the newypaper. Oh. thoe les! Thee lie I is a sucky*I for me tat was tuhrn Atlanta pislon when that bome wnt of in Wll street. If I ad epfree they would have had meq the cause of it Whe, the expleim occurred in the building of the Los tegea il. ut Harrison baste ne thatI a eidoe? u ti h in t tth n errowly esand THE hURDEe dSt.ePer the nesalers have done to me among my onpolin "Y . own home town. Bfore the war thea He winot a man, woman or child who wasn't my friend. You could walk up one side of the principal street and down the other, and ask every person thre about me, and every one would say a tiendly word. I had lived there a lifetime, and t can may that no body ever came to me and went away empty handed. I never failed to hel p any kind of a person who want ed h'was an wthnIcould do.~ mo-o" i en, toish head was thrown back and his long arms spread wide. DESERTED IN ROME TOWN. "Today, If Eugene Dbs should go back to that home town of his, he would no longer ond it a family of friends. The people there now be lieve him some kind of A horrid thing, an enemy of what Gis ood. The newspapers have done ghat.t1 "YesT" I said, "it is the great evil But what can he done?" "MA," he answered, ".that I. it. What can be done? But it is the next task before us. It is-the next fit we must throw ourselves into We g int itagainst great odds, al most hopeless odds. Perhaps the best hope is that the people after awhile will come to disbelieve alto gether what they read." He switch ~d suddenly, implying much about why he was in a prison, among felons, when he exclaimed: "They don't want me out, the newspapers. They know I could go onto the platform and tell about them. They know that I have the facts." (The Third Insstallmetu i' l be, publisd in. The Times tomorrow.) $10 aA Dr. DIMen Peac Obeoirver, Tois of Promi to Fight Ewes's Wars. (o~at.n4 rsem VA Pae.-) statement ttibntd te\ Presdest Wilson to reach Ameresa. An artisle by Pranh U. pmanes published in Washingtona that date, was etered In the Cengressional resrd by Beese ter Johasos on nmeoear d. In it Mr. almonds ioeted PgsideMt WiOS a having said to Premier Brateso: "'If the worm shoqld be trouble again. if the .onditlea which we a regard as te fusdeSmeStal Ure'*6 1Nage4 ehe gamsmaess which wU he M s oses edwfe n ms wlls sed 8ts se.y aend nowS aSsess the eise. "'I would say to Mr. Breitano, in aIaoular. that We have not the lest dere to impair the sov aelgaty *( ,is oogntry. we do not want to do anything that Gould dis plew him. "'eua pia will come out of this war increased in power and In terri tory. We have the right. aeeordihgly. to insist on certap eonditions which in on' opipion, will mote this su. sees pers anent." QUARANTEmD PRONTEIB. "The REumanian premier asserted that 'this provision was an infringe melt on the govereigat of the as tiobs of Europe. He pointed out that no each taterventmen was provided in the case of ethnical minerities is the doulatns of thegreat powers them selves. "President Wilson made a lengthy rejoiader of great sweetness and upetion, in which he represented the provision against which Premier Bratiano protested as an act of the purest kindness. 4'We guarantee your frontiers.' said President Wilson. 'k1e seas taot we will send aims, ships and men in ease of nsessity. Therefore, we have the right and duty to hin der the deplorable conditqns which would render this intervention un avoidrtble.' "Presi4ent Wilson's -assertion that the United States would send men and ships to enforce the decrees of the League created a profound impression, and was considered a guarantee of the territorial in tegrity of the new states. Some delegates hail these words as a pledge of Amesteam seidarity with rasse and Great Bttata In *nking a hand I governing Earep and m--==w= the ffai.a of the wee." NOT CONTRADICT1D. Neither the statement by Mr. Dil lop nor that of Mr. Simonds was ever contradicted by the President. On the other hand it was pointed out 'by Congressman Kahn. chairman of the House Military Affairs Can mittee,the Administratibn immediate ly mads an effort to enlarge the reg ular army to a aise sufficient to meet its obligations under tie League. Kahn said: "When Secretary Baker was before the H;pse he' recommended a force of 607,000, officers and enlisted men. It Is perfectly well known the constitu tion of the League of Nations looks to a gradual dissrmament. "Congress felt the United States had no possible use for such a large force, which would have cost $989.000,000 per year. The bill as passed provided for 280,000 men gnd 17,032 officers." ST. LOUIS, Mo.. Oct. &-It was an nounced at the office of Senator Spen oer here yesterday that a telegram had been received fron Herbert Adams Gibbons, a writer, saying Mr. Gibbons was in posgeeson of a copy of the stenographie report of a session of the peace conference in which Presi dent Wilson is alleged to have prom ised American military aid to Europe in event the "world Is again troubled.". iks far Teck shoes for W how supple a till is, when it a long way 'in oes are of black skin - the real dyear Wingfoot tached. Lots of or rounded toes. only Teck sh'oe rict. *iy. for MenanudBeys SAT NINTH lo..a 4s PAWS. Oct. 1.--The Desk... De Cbale, deuhteur of the late Yd. dore P. 860i$N, . ages d to ma the vouag Oeke De Creabela. hoe. was .w by her wpfv s iariage. the la spaper A u tate 1.U. lidat Ue eI ~ a had ret bees aamoeme4 Tlg Duke Bo wru ela west to New York on the .a.. ship with Gb Deitr. last year. giving r to taw rewer that he was tslove th Gub an4 was following her to seek her hatd a starrie. Reportere followed the duke se peralsteatly i Now Yovh thi he dnally took refage in the ,es of the Duehass Do Chaulses. Aeprds to the lrneh newspapse. 1t was he proposed marrtage. The duke was nursed by the Duck oe De Chaulae. at Chateau Dea pierre when he was wounded in th war. It was thee they fell in cove, aesording to reports. The dohse ret ed to New York upe the 1q thof her father, MSr. 3hohts. hei am e &ave eoasentqd, REWYERS MEMORYIJ WIFE FOUR KIDDIE FREDERZCK, NO.. Oct. 8--ight Of a fellow workmen today restored memory and a wife and four children to Charles R. Stone, of Hyattsville. Md.. who passed through here on his way to his home. On June 2. 1920, stone says he found himself, unidentified. wandering about somewhere out West and that he was under the Impression that he was homeless, wifeless and childless. His Japse of memory was due, he said, to an accident in Washington when he was bowled into the Potomac River by a pile of falling timbers. Memory was returned to him recent ly in Kansas, when he came fase to face with Edward Moore. of Balti more. Moore. recognised Stone. and spoke toy him, with the result that complete memory was restored to Stone. Mrs. Stone, who has been under the impression that her husband was drowned, since she received such in formation from W. V. Burdette, her father in Richmond, has not been told that her husband is alive. He expects to surprise her. PERRY WILL EXPLAIN LEAGUE ARTIQ.E VE This afternoon at Franklin square Frank Perry wil explain Article V of the League of Nations at 'the Afth of the series of street meetings, which the League of Nations Assoeiations is conducting in 'the interest of the League. Yesterday afternoon William Klets, formner president of the North Caro lina senate, explained Article IV to a large crowd at Dupont circle. Genuine H E Natic Store is store in great, big, pus Mackinaws are Plaids in bright $20.00 and $22 Sweaters (a the very thick - styles, with -I1a may be rolled* front. $12.00. Patrick Golf wool-$3.50. Patrick pro throughout by pie. From t through the ca dying and weal Boys' Ba Netbnelly Knbeen St THE AVENU Daiuy. 6 t desir Ket l~ to etltt 4 l t Irty dS K, se I 6 lb th rt ! "ad of maemberhip, 4 ea10 w$ klag splia of the stores havling )se tavested. it has been 3e1ad impos", wtbeat 1434. dass of the asmetS. d e asw sae have been edste gle of4I t " essa If M 41s M.r, it a that bre wW ot Ps4906 = t; 0 for it srg$lIt ~eaet the b oee na ale the breseb wvv~- v tbe 44~S~ed oI a on had would alo show A consider able -.brtabage-from their alsse as In vetorled. If the majority of the stodkbelders order -a reorgntaStion. the fleW ig pla Per bees' ested by the reorgan'sation emmit Incorporate under lhe ' alute "De eatal Co-operat9 a ro I.." or sae sim.ilar. 1 Is .se e for cards a6*eld by members; iss to eack one share of stock of tILe par vaue of $0. fully paid aa4 aosassesble. Makh thbM shaes trasterable .en the beake e omeany,. but only for reissue to some other .m#l9y9 or tp. goyeho mente. No persos to have more than as vote-thus insuring a genuine eso 6perative society-but each menber may own as many shares as he or she desires to take out i adavaclag the interests of the society. TUWT TO V@NTaOL. Stockholders to elect a board of seven trustees who shall have esecu tive control, with apthority to declare Odivideadi, when earned, and to ar range for a system of discounts. The trustees to employe a new manager for the stores. The statement of assets and UlabIl. Its. shown below covers opera1opyi for the year ending September 21, 19320 C.b c resliter .. $1.433.4 Csho es nd eeer...91$.54 We ................. e.0 $1,61.6 Gesip et ..... . 3,68.88 Aeoeunnts reeivable. 361.6 Is s$7e .10.5 lavestertee Groeries.......1-1.54 4.48 Shoes and hesher.. .1.6.6 LdeI.' Sults (en de post) n........... .2.0 1$.16 18 Capital.....................$33.66 Accounts parable ...............484.6? $31.430./7 GROUND RMCKM FOR NEW EPWORTH CHURCH More than 5600 members of the Up worth Methiodist Episcopal Church. South. attended thp ceremonies ye terday afternoon he ground was broken for the new building at Thirw teenth street and hIer'h Caroll a ave nue northeast. Patricks --for boys nally Know n the only Patrick Vashington. The e wool Patrick ready for boys., and dark colors. 50. so Patrick), in-' knit. Pull-over ge collars that lown to a V in Hose-also pure lucts are made he Patrick peo he raw wool, rding, spinning, ing or knitting. -er .5Ap wre for Men, ad Bey. IE AT NINTH .nin o6 Sl.k Coupo To HomsE erdwse tasrai th age is the slty of Washingto Aarosati often an opped city to make known their this matter. The Thmes ha. this = ora. Ptiou1 It to Esta1 te Emitsr The information s .sential ad speedy solatics may hw the hoe. shortage. Name ........... Ad d resse ...........Hw m t s e . w How mnulh space Ipd 1 (State whetier apartment rooms.) . What rent ain you payl Give other information Ooinittee in solving the hi .. u. . . . . . . . *... . . . . . . . . . . .-* At the annual meeting of Brokers' Absociatiop, which i ring in'the grill room at Wai Df the special committed whic housing situation with regard will make its. report. The committee yesterday held its third meeting in tis office of Henry L. Rust. 913 Vifteeath' street north. west. Individpal report were made by the usemnber of the Oommittee, mad a general discussion of the situ ation way held. On metion of Thomas Bradley. bead of the real estate department of the Washington o&.a and Trust Company. a subcomnmittee was appointed. con sting of Charles W. Fairfax. of Btone and Pairtan. and Bates Warren. builder, to dre.w up the findings of the special committee of realtors and to present its. report at the final meet ing of the conmpittee to be held Mon tay at s o'clock at Mr. Rust's office. Persons affected by the shortage of houses in the city are urged to flU )ut the coupon. as it Is absolutely ssential that the realtors be in pos eseson of all possible data hearing on the actuhl shortage and the desires a fthe people in the matter of the had at dwelling wanted. the sise and the rental they en afford to pay. The returns made so far Indicate A T HE 01 fu' ing. The otl is our favoril to sell. Asa te men. Look You'll save 1 of uncertain1 ing expert" $50 isj any price. $ Naioa ns as Guide .g Situation Setat of the born. shot U, the Bea state Brokers' asity to the people of the setmal and exact needs in been asked to help obtain he segpo below and sail f The Washington Tunes. In order that an adequate I arvd at in overeeming rhat.kind-da you requirpt or henss and how many that will aid the Realtors' >asing problem. the Washington Real Estate vill be held ou Monday eve idman Park Hotel, the report h has been investigating the to the rental situation here that the prlelpal difficulty seems to be the inability to pay the rents that it is apparent fromn an analysis of bai4Iags oots the landlords would be forced to ask. The great number of underpaid Federi ad District goveinment employes in the city can not, on their present salaries, meet the high rentals d.msan4ed. Thip Is one of the principal phases of the situation that is causing concern. . Today's replies to the coupon. white most gratifying, still cannot be truly indicative of the actual home short age. The people must make koawn their actual needs. In order that the realtore may have a concrete business preposition to offer Ananelal Institu tions and investors. The Times is co-operating In secur lag accurate Information in this con nection. Persons in need of houses or aprtments in Washington are urged to tll out the coupon herewith and send it to the Real Estate Editor of The Times, who will Tabulate them pad forward them to the committee >f realtors. east C RE are two ways to des ie way is to use adjecti I words that sound ve ier way is by compari: e way of describing wt st case look over' our $ over $50 suits all ar 1 a lot of talking and y ty. You don't have to I to see the difference. ust a test case. Comi: 40, $45, $55, $60. I Known &toie for Men a mE AV$NUE AT-NINTU Donys &SVto 6 sNEWomR ReiNdt e Peas Trestes LOWM, e. 1-gonad .e i=roo tram her peo. a.gotiatin with oiet bEsela amd I4thuata a '''me pow'- "'----* a la Italy, Nortaal, or sweaserlaad. 1-4 leriiag to all the IadIaams, it was W"M by diplomats todmy. The tenui ory of Pelaad, as It oLiBU4 whoa the eonatry was part of the Ruuiaa 'spire, will be mouly dosbied. TO KAYT TWO 117 61111141. While Poland has mo territoria) pos. Pessions, she probably will two outlete on the Deltle to onae her to buid up her arettawme trade. One 'utlet will be through the Daaadg corridor. the other will be through a corridor alsag the Dvina river, be tween Lithuania ad Soviet Russia. ' The signing of the actual armistlce. by which Soviet Russia aefspts all of the peace terms presented by'Polapd. was to take place at !Riga late today. An armistice has been effected be tween Poland and Russia and Poland and Lithuania. Now Poland will spabmpee part of th old German em pire, the old Russian empire, and the old Austro-Hungarian empire. naGSlUT to NIUOILE. Poland has the support of Great Britain and France. These countries want to see a strong and large Polish republic creates as a barrier between Polshevik Russia asq continental Europe. On the other hand. Germaay is hostile to Poland because of the loss of German territory to the Pales. ALSATIANS WANT FREEDOMFROM 'NCH RULE BADEN-BADEN, Germany, Oct. 8. -Another self-determination move ment has sprung up here under the guidance of the "Executive Com mittee of the Republic of Alsao. Lorraine." The committee, headed by Count Rapp. is sending protests to neutral countries, lIsisting that the so called liberation of Alsace-Lorraine by the allies has merely put them. under French domination instead of Prussian. Members of the commit tee fled to Germauny when the prov inces were occupied by the French. "Our vigorous race that has sur vived all the tri s of more than a thousand years il yet see the day of liberty we to for," says -etate ment just lasu by the committee. cribe value. - ves. Color ry convinc ;on. Which iat we have 50 suits for nd town. ourself a lot ye "cloth are suits at. rAAA.