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1 ABILENE, WEpKLT REFLECTOR, ABILENE, KANSAS, REP, 8, IfMO. ITOSflflLY: President Taft'i Address Before W Congress at St Paul. : DANGER IN CONTINUED WASTE Chief Executive OutllnM Plan Which I H Blhvt Should B Adopted ik Statistic Mikt poh Com. i . prhnlv to Hearer. ' , 8t Pd'ul, Jflnn, Bept (.-President ; Ttft delivered tie long-expected peech before the National Con- ' Miration conrreii here today. Sub' tantlally It was as follow: Oentlemen of the National Conarvauon Congress: Conservation ae an economic and po tJUoei term na come to mean the preser ' -ration of our natural resources for I economical un, ao aa to secure the great .. ast arood to the greatest number. Tha danger to the atata and to the peo jila at large from the waste and disslp. tlon at our national wealth ta net one which quickly Impreoses Itself On the peo ple of the Older communltlea, beeauia Ita meat obvious instance ao no occur in their neighborhood, while In the newer part of the country the sympathy with expansion and development la ao strong . that the danger le soonea at or ignored. junong eclentlllo men and thoughtful ob erven, however, the danger haa always ee preaent: but It needed tome one to ' ln-lng home the crying need for a remedy ef Mile evil ao aa to Impress Itself on the jpubllo mind and 'oad to the formation of public opinion and action by the repre- ' wnutlvee or the people. Tneoaore ttoose welt took up thle task In the last two areara of hie eecond admlniatratlon, and wall did ha nerform It. J Ae prealdent of the tTnlted gtate I jtav, ae it were, innerjtea tms policy, . f vainly In mv Aarltua-a. I nrlia BIT high opportunity to do all that an ex exmtlve oan da to help a great people g-eallae a "great national ambition. - For conservation la national. It affecta every man of us. every woman, every child. What I can do In the cause I ahall do, . not ai president of a party, bat ae presi dent of the whole people. Conservation 4a not a question of politics, or of fae- Alone, or of pereone. It la a question that esneois ine tiin wvitare vi an ui u ur enuaren ana our entiaren s entiaren. J urge that no good can come from. meet SnM at this anrt unless wa aaorlbe to se who take 1art In them, ana wno apparently striving worthily In the e, all proper motives, and unless we Judicially consider every measure or method proposed with a view to Its effec- tlvenea in acnieving our common pur pose, and wholly without regard to who proposes, H .or who will claim the credit for Its adoption. 'The2 problema are of werr great difficulty and - call for the calmest oonslderatlod' and clearest fore night. ' Many of the questions presented have phases that are new In thle coun try, and It la possible that In their solu tion we mar-Jtave to attempt first one iway and then another. What I wish to emphasise, however, la that a eatlsfac tory conclusion can -only . be reaohed ttromptly If we. avoid acrimony, Imputa tion of' bad faith, and political contro versy. , The publld domain of the government f the United States, Including all the cessions from those of the thirteen states 'tthat made cessions to the United Btatea auad Including Alaelta, amounted In all to about 1,800.000.00(1 acres. Of this there le left aa purely government -property out side of Alaska something like 700,000,000 of stcres, Of this the national forest re serves In the United Statee proper em brace 144,000,000 acres. The rest Is largely anountaln or arid country, offering some opportunity tor agriculture by dry farm ing and by reclamation, and containing SAietala aa well aa coal, phosphates, oils, eutd natural gaa. Then the government etwna many tracts of land lying along the margins of streams that have water ftowor, the use of which Is necessary In the conversion of the power Into elec tricity and Its transmission. 1 ahall divide my discussion under the heada of (1) agricultural lands; (I) mln- - eral lands that Is, lands containing metalliferous minerals: (3) forest lands: 44) coal lands; 6 oil and gas landa; and (G) phosphate lands. Agricultural Lands. -' Our land laws for the entry of agricul tural lands are now as follower The original homestead law, with the requirements of residence and cultivation for Ave yeers, much more strictly en forced than ever before. ' , The enlarged homestead act, applying to nonlrrigahle landa only, requiring live years' residence and conttnuoua cultiva tion of one-fourth of the area. The desert-land act, which requires on the part of the purrhaeer the ownership of a water right and thorough reclama tion of the land by Irrigation, and the payment of 11. ill per acre. The donation or Carey act, under which the etate selects the land and provldea for Ita reclamation, and the title vests in the Battler who resldee upon the land and cultivates it and pays the cost of the reclamation. The national reclamation homestead law. requiring five yeare' residence and cultivation by the aettier on the land Ir rigated by the government, and payment ty him to the government of the ooet of the reclamation. ' The present conrreee passed ft bill of great Importsnce, severing the ownership of coal by the government in the ground f mm the surface and permitting ho.ne tead entrlee upon the surface of the land, which, when perfected, give the ettler the right to farm the eurrare, white the coal beneath the surface te re tained In ownership by the government and may be disposed of by it under other taws. There Is no crvlng need for radical re form in the methods of dist-oslne of what are really egrtrultural lan.1a Tne pres-" ent lews have wo'kM well. The en larged homestead law baa encouraged It s ucoesaful farming of tends in the eeml artd reekms. of rnures the teachinr of the seriruitin-al dej,rrmeot aa to how these subarsd lan-le may ha tre,', and tha soil pr-rrved f'r uaef.il culture ere j ml tha r, eeavw rr w-wn-iikin Toen conservation of ,cvur.:.ti l..r '. is j In Itie ra-"l".''-J of arid Isas sost or profit af this water te private owners by the government la held by the federal court of aooeale mat to no usurpation of power. But certainly this ouaht not to be don except from sur plus weler, not needed for government land. The total sum already eccumule ted In the reclamation fund le I60.nl, 168.15, and of .that all but kMM.IU.M haa been expended. It became very clear to eoneresa at Ita but session, from the statements made by experts, that these W projects could not be promptly com pleted with the balance remaining, an hand or with the funds likely to accrue In the near future. It was round, more over, that there art many settlers who have been led Into taking up lands with the hope and understanding of having water furnished In a short time, who are left In a moat distressing situation. recommended to congress that authority be given to the secretary of the Interior to Issue bonds In anticipation of the as sured earnings by the projects, so tnai the projecte, worthy and feaaible, might be promptly completed, and the settlers might be relieved from their present In convenience and hardship. In authorising the Issue of these projects, congreea lim ited the application of their proceeds to those nroiecto which a board or army en etnacra. ta be amnlnted by the president. should examine and determine to be feasible and worthy of completion. The board haa been appointed and noon will make Ita report Suggestions have been made that the United Statee ought to aia in ine araur age of swamp lands belonging to the states or private owners, because,' If drained, thev would be exceedingly val ..-v.1 ae aariauitiire ana. eontrtDute to the general welfare by extending the area of cultivation. 1 deprecate ine agi tation In favor of such legislation. It la inviting the-, general government mto contribution from Its treasury toward en terprises that should be conducted either by private capital or at the Instance of the etate. In these days there Is a dispo sition to look too much to the federal government for everything. 1 am liberal In the construction of the Constitution with reference to federal power; but I am firmly convinced that the only safe course for us to pursue le to hold fast to the limitations of the Constitution and to regard as sacred the powers of the statee. We have made wonderful prog ress and at the same time have pre served ' with Judicial exactness the re strictions of the Constitution. - There it an easy way In which the Constitution can be violated by congress 'Without Judicial Inhibition, to-wlt, by appropria tions from the national treasury for un. constitutional purposes, It will be a sorry day for thle country if the time ever comes when our fundamental oompect hall be habitually disregarded In this manner. r. . , - - .: Mineral Landa. Bv mineral landa I mean those lands bearing metals, er what are called metal liferous minerals. The rules of owner" ship and disposition of these lands were first fixed by custom -ht the west, and then were embodied In the law, and they have worked, on, the whole, ao fairly and well that J do not think It la wise to attempt to change or better them. ,.!...' Foratt Landa. . , f. Nothing can be more Important In the matter of conservation than the treatment Of our forest lands. : It wee probably the ruthless fleetruetlon of -wrests, tn jne older statee that first called attention to a halt In the waste of mir resources. This was recognised by congreea by an act authorising the-executive to reaerve from, entry and set aside public timber lands as national forests BpraKtng generally. there hat been reserved of the existing forest about seventy per cent, or an the timber landa of the government Within these forests (Including JJaXl.trW acres In ten forests In Alaska) are 162. ooa.ooo.of acrea, of which 166.ooo.ooo oi acres are In the United mates proper ana Include within their boundaries some thing like 11,000,000 of acres that belong to the state or to private Individuals. We have then, excluding Alaska forests, a total Of about 144.ooo.otn aoree oi wrests hotAnatna tn the government which Is being treated In accord with the prlnej. plee of scientific forestry. Tha anvernment timber In this coun try amounte to only one-fourth of all the timber, the rest being In private own- aaahln OnlV three Oar OSM. Of that WhtCn la In private ownership la looked after properly and treated Becoming w mw ern rules of forestry. The ueual de. structlve waste and-neglect continues In the remelnder of the foreete owned by prlvote persons apd corporatlona. It le aHmate that nre a one aesia-nya ,, - nm aineth of timber a year. rne management of forests not on puouc tana ta nevnnd the hirlsdlctlon of the fed eral government. If anything can he done bv lnw It muet be done by tne etate ieg dlaturee. I bel'eve that It le within their cnnatlttttional power to require the en forcement of regulations In the general public Interest, aa to fire and other causes of wnnte In the management of foreets owned by private Individuals and corporations. - I have shown eumrjentiy Inn conojuons to federal forestry to Indicate that no further lea'slstion la needed at tne mo ment except en Increase In the fire pro tection to fmtUinal forests and aa act vesting the executive with full power to make forest reeervetlons In every stnte where government land le timber-covered, or where the land la needed for.foreetry purposes- -.,.. , Cod Linda. The next subject, and one most Impor tant for our consideration, la the dtepoei tlon of the coal landa In the United Btatea and In AlaeVn. First, aa to those In the 1'nited Ststea At the beginning of thle administration they were cleast. fled ooel lands amounting to 1.475,010 acres,, and there were withdrawn frem entrv for purnoaee of claeelfloattoa 1?, IsjT.oi acree. Blnce that time there have been withdrawn bv mv order from entry for claaeiniatlon T7.6f.lt a-ree making a total withdrawal of 5.tlS.t a-rea. Meantime, ef the acres thus withdrawn, ii-m.me have been elaselfted and found not te contain cOai. and tave "een re stored to agricultural entry, and t.SMOo aoree hive been classified aa coal lends: while T7fA,fl0O aeves remain withdrawn from etrtrv and await clss!nat!on. la addition W one acres have been rtasst-fl,-d ea coal landa without prior withdraw al, thua Increasing Hie . claaaified coal landa to hu,flfl0 acrea. T'ader the laws providing for the tfsno. elttoe nf coal landa the minimum price at which landa are permitted to be sold is $' an acre: but the eeretery of the interior bae the power to flx a maximum price and eell at tt'at prtre, Bv the flrvt r-irulstlen governing anorataal. an proved Aprtt t, tt.e minimum was 10 ae provided by tew. sod toe irtaximotn was and the h'ehest pr'ce actually pif-..t upon anv land eotd was fl t'n nr t' e new rer-Jiftlioia. adopind April 16, - the maximum hilce was tw reaaed te ,1 sonant In re.rne where tt-ere see r t. i - -a at'e ao nre, n t it Is n . . t e- I t e J ts pi.'- -I tr I e- -i-it-.-l t -r,i rt r 1 1 to li e -e 1 - area ef H.41I acren which gold tor 111; and down to August, 11)10. there were but 17 entries, with an arc of 1,710 acres, which sold for fal.llO.ge, making dispo sition of the coal landa In the lest twa tfaaea ai a hoot mm) acrea for tl.IO6.00O. The preaent congreea, aa already said, haa separated the aurface of coal landa, either classified or withdrawn for classi fication, from the coal beneath, so sb to permit at all tlmea homestead entrlee upon the aurface of landa useful for ee rtculture an to reserve the ownership In the ooal to the government The ques tion which remains to be considered whether the existing la for the sale of the coal In ibe ground ehiuld continue In force or be repealed and a new nu-i"ou of disposition adopted. Under the present law the absolute title In the eoal be neath the surface paaeea to the grantee of the government -The price fixed la upon an estimated amount -of the tone of coal per acre beneath tha surface, and the prlcea are fixed so that the earnings will only be a reasonable profit upon the amount paid and the Inveetment neces sary. But. s nurse, this le more or leas guesswork, w . tne government pane with the ownership of the coal In the ground absolutely. Authorities of the ge ological ourver estimate that In the United fltatee today there la a supply of about three thousand billion of tons oi eoal, and that of thlB one thousand bllllona tre In the public domain. Of court , the oth er two thousand bllllona are within private ownership and under no more control aa to the use or the prlcea at which the, coal may be sold than any othse private property.' If the government leases the ooal lands and acta aa any . landlord would, and Imposes condition In Its laaaea Ilka thoaa which are now Imposed by the owner In fee of eoal mine In the various coal regions oz tne east, men u would retain over the dleposltkra of the ooal depoeit a choice ae to the aaslgnee of the lease, or of resuming possession at the end of the term of the lease, which might easily be framed to- enable it to exercise a limited but effective control In the dlsposlilop and sate of the coal to the public. It has been -urged that the lABslna svstem haa never been adopted In this country, and that Its adoption would largely Interfere with the Investment of capital and the proper development ana opening up of the coal resources, i ven ture to differ entirely from this view. The auestlon as to how great an area ought to be Included In a lease to one Individual or corporation, la not tree from difficulty; but In view, of tha fact that the government retains control aa owner, I think there might be aome liberality In the amount leased, and that 1.(00 acrea would not be too great a maximum. By the opportunity to readjust the terms upon which the coal ahall be held by the tenant, either at the end of each leaae or at serlod during the term, the government may secure the benefit of aharing In the Increased price of coal and the .additional profit made by the tenant. By Imposing conditions In respect to the oharacter of- work to . be done in the mine, the government may control the oharacter of the development of the mines and the treatment of employes with reference to aafsty. By denying the right to tranafer the leaae except by the written permission of the governmental authorltlea. It may withhold the needed consent when It Is proposed to transfer the leasehold to persona Interested in es tablishing a monopoly of coal production In any state or neighborhood. The change from the absolute grant to the leasing system will Involve ft - good deal of trouble In the outaet, and the tralntaa of experts In the matter of mak'ing proper leases; but the change will be a good one and can be made. The change Ib In the Interest of conservation, and am giao v approve i(. y . ' . . , Alaska Coal Landa. Tha Investigation of tha geological sur vey ahow that the coal propertiee ut Alaska cover, about. 1,100" square mflee, and that there are known to be available about 15,000,000.000 tons. This Is, however, an underestimate of the eoal In Alaska, because further development will prob ably increase this amount many tlmea; but we can my with -conalderabl cer tainty that there are two fields on the Pacific alope Which can be reached by railways at a reaeor eble ooet from deep water In one case about fifty miles and In the other cam of about 160 mllea which will afford certainly 4,000.000,000 tona of coal, more than half of which la of ft very high grade of tntumlnoua and of anthracite. It Is estimated to be worth. In the ground, one-half ft cent ft ton, which makes Its value per acre from 160 to S?00. The coking-coal landa of Penn sylvania are worth from 1800 to 12,000 at acre, while other Appalachian fields are worth from 110 to I3SS an acre, and the flelda In the central statee from tlO to tf.ooa an acre, and In the Rocky moun- talna 910 to 1600 an acre. The demand for eoal on the Pacific- coast la for about 4,&00,0Ot) tons a year. It would encounter the competition of cheap fuel oil, of which the equivalent of 12,lO0,000 tona of coal a year la used there. It Is estimatec that the coal could be laid down at Se attle or San Francisco, a high-grade bl tummoua, at 94 a ton and anthracite al as. r at .a aoa. The price of coal ,oa the Pacific slope Varies greatly from time to time tn the year and from year to year from 94 to 111 ft ton. With regular coal aupply established, the expert of the geological Burvey, Mr. Brooka, who haa made a report on the aubject, doee not think there would be an excessive proft In the Alaaka eoal mining because the price at which the coal could be Bold would be eoneiderably lowered by com pe tition from theae flelda and by the pres ence of crude fuel oil. The history of the laws affecting tha disposition of Alaska coal landa shows them to need amend ment badly. On November 11 Wot, President Roose velt Issued an executive order with drawing all coal lands from location and entry in Alaaka On riay It, lm7. he1 modified the order so aa to permit valid locatlone made prior to the withdrawal on November It. ire, to proceed to entry and patent Prior to that date some But elalme had bean filed, moot of them mid to be Illegal because either made fraudu lently by dummy entrymen m the Inter est of one Individual or corporation, or because of agreemente mede prior to lo etlon between the appHcanta to co-tiperate ta developing the landa There are 11 claims for 160 acres each, known aa the "Cunningham claima," which are claimed te be valid oe the ground that thev were made by an attorney for SI . different and bona fde claimant who. as altered, pld their money and took the prop stafal to locate their entries and protect them The rrr-reaantetires at ttse sovrnment in the haarvnrs before the tend effii-e have attacked the valMiiv of ee Cunnir.f ent claims on the ground that prior to their location tnara wwa an unrterelaodme between tae ctaiman'e to po.a th--r claims after ttv-v had bn perfected and unite them in one osn u THa tran.1 oX tw.AM - ta snow I ! su- 0 sn ir- . -t w-is.nl In- ulete t -e r!;rr-. ant-r-urh ur:-l-r the '--tent law of Mr t . 4 I -.-w;-n of .r cl-v'i e:s pr-r sv- aarry up tha maximum of rain to tffle an acre, in my Judgment it la eeaentlej In the proper development of Alaaka that them coal landa ahould be opened, and that tha Pacific elope ehould be given the benefit of the comparatively cheap coal of fine qunllty which can b furnished at a reasonable price from theae Aelde; but the public,1 through - the government ought certainly to retain ft wise control and Interest In them coal deposits, and 1 think It may do so safely if congress will authorise the granting of leasee, aa al ready suggested for government coal landa In the United Statee, with provi sion forbidding the transfer of the lease except with the consent of the government, thus preventing tnetr acqui sition by a combination or monopoly and upon limitation as to the area to oe in cluded In any one lease to one Indlvlduel, and at a certain moderate rental, with royalties upon the ooal mined propor tioned to the market value of the coal either at Seattle or at San Francisco. Of course such leasea should contain condi tion requiring the erection of proper plant, the proper development by mod ern mining method of the properties leased, and the use of every known and practical means and device for aavlng the life of the miners, !,,-. t I Oil and Oa Landa.- In the last admlniatratlon then wer withdrawn from agricultural entry t.Sa), 000 acre of supposed oil land m Califor nia; about a million and half acre in Louisiana, of which only too acre wer known to be vacant unappropria ted land; 75,000 acres in Oregon ana ivi, 000 acres In Wyoming, making a total of nearly 4,000,000 acres, In September, l0t, I- directed that all publle oil lands, whether then withdrawn or not, should be withheld from disposition pending con gressional action, for the reason that the existing placer mining law, although made annllcable to deposit of this char- ?-cter, la not suitable to auch lands, and-i or the further reason that It seemed de sirable to reserve certain fuel-oil deposits! for the use of the American navy. Ac cordlngIy,the form of all -existing with drawal waa chanced, and, new with drawala aggregating 17SO.0OO acrea were made In Arliona. California, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming. Field examination durlng"the year showed tleat of the original withdrawal. 8,170, 000 ftcrea'were not valuable for oil, and (hey were restored for agricultural entry Meantime, other withdrawals of public ell lands ln-thes states were made, so that July . 1. 1910. the outstanding with' drawale then amounted to 4,550,000 acrea The needed oil and gas law Is essential ly ft leasing law. In their natural occur rence, oil and gas, cannot be measured In terma of acrea. like coal, and It follotva that exclusive title to them product can normally be secured only after they reach . tha surface. Oil ahould be disposed of as commodity In terms of barrel of tranaportahle product rather . than . In acrea of real estate. This le. of course, the reason for the practically universal adoption of the leasing system wherever oil , land 1 In private ownership. The government - thus would not.be entering an experiment, but simply putting Into effect ft plan successfully operated tn private contract. Why ahould not the government aa ft landowner deal directly with the oil producer rather than tnrougn the Intervention of a middleman to whom the government gives title to the land? The principal underlying feature or such legislation should be the exercise of beneficial control rather than tne collec tion of revenue. A not only th largest owner -of oil lands, but as a prospective largo consumer of oil by-'reason of the Increasing use of fuel oil by the navy, the federal government Is directly con cerned both In encouraging rational de velopment and at the same time Insuring the longest possible life to the oil sup- ..: :.: One Of the dimeuitie preeentea.N espe cially In the California flelda, la that the Southern Pacific railroad owns every other section of land- In the oil field, and In those fields the oil- seem to be In a common reservoir, or serie of reser votrs. oommuntcatlng through tne - oil sands, so that the excessive draining of oil at on welt on. on the railroad terri tory generally, would exhaust the oil In the government land. - Hence It la Im portant that If tht government la to have Its share Of the oil It should begin tha opening of well on It own property. It baa been suggested, ana oeiieve ine auggestlon to be ft sound one. that per mits be issued to ft prospector for oil giving him the right to prospect for two years over ft certain tract of government land for the discovery of oil, the right to be evidenced by a license 'for which he pays a small sum. When the oil la dis covered, then he acqulrea title to a cer tain tract, much In the same way as he would acquire title under a mining law. Of course If the system of lenslng la adopted, then he w.iuld be given the benefit of a leaae upon terms like that above auggested. Whit haa been mid In respect to oil applies aim to government gaa land. . ., ' .. ; Phosphate Landa. " Phosphorus Is one of the three essen tials to plant growth, the other elements being nitrogen and potash. Of, these three, phosphorus Is by all odda the scarcest element tn nlture. It is enelly extracted" In useful form from the phoa- nhata rock and the United states con- talna the greatest known deposits of this rock In the world. They are founa in Wyoming, Utah and Florida, aa well ae In South Csrollna. Georgia and Tennea-J The government phosphate landa are confine tn Wvomlnv. Utah and Florida. Prior to, March 4, 1909, there were 4.000IK1B acrea withdrawn from agricultural entry In the ground that the land covered phoa phate rock. Bmce that time, 1,122.000 acres of the land thua withdrawn was found not tn contain phosphate In profitable ouantltlee. while l,i 000 acrea was ciassl- -(Icd nmocrly as phosphate landa. During thle edmlnli-ratMn mere new oeen wine drawn and classified 4H.l0 acrea. so that today there is daselfled aa phoephate rock land tlU.OOS acre. . Thla rock la most Important In the compoeltlon of fertilisers to Improve the soil. ad aa the future le certain to create aa enormou demand throughout this country for fertilisation. the value to the public of such dVposite aa thesesn hardly be exareeratea. ier talnlv wtih reenect to these depnelts a careful policy of conservation ahould be followed. A law tnai wouiu pru.-w -leasing svstem for the phosphate depoa ita t,-eethee with a provision for the sep aration of the aurface and mineral rixhtr aa la already provided for In the case of cost would seem to meet the need of pmmntme the dvet'-r-ment of tnna ae- poslts and tl-eir utilisation n tne ?n rultural len-ts of the, Vest. If It ta thousht dn!-stile to diiK-ourre tt-e expor tation of phiwphat ""- and the vm of ft for our turn lands, trie r'ip muld be scconu-Uehed by con-lili-ms Ir he ler,ne grin'ed bv the rovem-ont tr leasers. Of course, oni-er the c-mt- urtnn te eovrrn-nt om'o not t the exocrtatlu 4, nd tounl nut nr.- lite or nt-fl e ' of ll-,e b-'.: that tlm l,17,4ij acre have li tared for settlement of the erlgnal four million, becauee they do not contain pow. er sits: and meantime there nave been newly withdrawn l.ttf.sal acres on vacant pubilo land and 111.0OT acres en entered publla land, or ft total of 1,4M,IM acrea Them withdrawal mad from Urn to time cover all th power sites Included In the first wlthdrawala, and many more, on m rivers and In la- statu. Th dispo sition of these power Bite Involve on of the most difficult questions presented In carrying out practical conservation. . The statute of 1891 with Ita amendments permits the secretary of the Interior to grant perpetual eaeements or rights af way from water - aourcea over public landa for the primary purpose of Irriga tion 'and aucb electrical current a may be Incidentally developed, but no grant can be mad under thla statute to oon- cems whom primary- purpoee la gener ating and handling electricity, The stat ute of 1901 authorises, tha aecretarr of the Interior to hunt revocable permit over the publla landa to electrical power oompatiM, hut thi statute a woeiuity in adequate because It doe not authorise the collection of a' charge or fit a term of year. Capital la , alpw, to Invest In an enterprise founded on A permit revocable at will, It I the plain duty of the government to see lo It that In th. utilization ana velopment of all this Immense amount of water power, condition shall be Im posed that will prevent monopoly -and will prevent extortionate ohargsa, which are the accompaniment of monopoly. The difficulty of adjusting the matter la ac centuated by the relation of .the power site to the water, th fall and flow of which create th powen In the statee where these Bites are, the riparian earn er doe not control or own th powsr In the water which flow past Me land). That power I under the control and with. In the grant of the state, and generally the rule la that the first water user I en titled to the enjoyment - Now, the pos session of the. bank or water-power site over which the Water la to be conveyed In order to make the power useful, gives to Ita owner an advantage and ft eertaln kind of control over the use of th water power, and It ia proposed that the govern ment In dealing with It own landa should use this advantage And lease landa toi power sites to those who would develop. the power, and Impose condition on tht leaeehold with reference to tne reason ableneaa of the rates at which the power. when transmuted. Is to be furnished tr- the public, and forbidding the union of the -particular power with a oomblnaltnn of other made for the purpose 01 monop oly' by forbidding assignment : of th lease save by conaent of the government Serlou difficulties are anticipated b) Borne In Buch an attempt on -the part oi the general government because of -the sovereign control of the state over the water power In Its natural condition, an' the mere proprietorship of the govern ment In the riparian lands, ' It la con tended that through its mere proprietary rlclit In the site, the rentral government haa no power to at'ompt to exercise po lice Jurisdiction with reference to how the water power In ft river owned and controlled by the state shall be used, and that It is ft violation of the state's right. I question the validity of this objection. The government may Impose any condl tlons that It choose In Its lees of Its own property,-even though-It may have the same purpose, and In effect accom plish Just what the state would aecon pllsh by the exercise of Its sovereignty,. There are thorn (and the director of the geological aurvey, Mr. Smith, who haa given ft great deal of attention to thla matter, la one of them) who Insist that this matter of transmuting water, power Into electricity, which can be- conveyed all over the country and across stats lines, la a matter that ought, to be re tained by the general government and that It ahould ftvail Itself of the owner ship of theae power site for the very purpose of co-ordinating In one general plan the power generated from these gdvernment owned aite. ' -.- Argumanta Agalnat ld. " . On the other hand, it I contended that It would relieve ft complicated situation if the contror of the watertdWr ait and the control of the water were vested In the same sovereignty and ownership, vis., the Btatea, and then were disposed of for development to private -lessees Un der tht restrictions needed to preserve the Interests of the public from the exto Hons and abuses of monopoly. Therefore, hills hava been Introduced In congress providing that whenever the stale ftu , ... a . ntaw naaful thev .' ingriura uwiu a r i may apply to the government of the I of", X'e'nM.n'd 'for". ...'.V-power site, and that this grant from tha fed eral government to the etate shall con tain ft condition that the state ahall never part with the title to the water power site or th water power, but BhaH lease It only for ft term of yeera not ex ceeding fifty, with provlalona In the lease by which the rental and the ratea for which the power I furnished to the public shall be readjusted at periods less than tne terra or tne lease, ao.y, i, yeera The argument la urged against this disposition of power altee that legis- l.mra and etate authorities are more sub-I Jeot to corporate Influence and control j than WOUId De tne central govvriunan,, reply It la claimed that ft readjuetment of the terms of leasehold every ten yeare would secure to the publle and the stat ju,t ,nd equitable tarma. I do not exprem an opinion upon tha controversy thua mad or ft preference a to the two method Of treating water power site. I shall submit the matter to congress and urge that one or th other of the two plana be adopted. - r . I hava referred to the course of the hut administration and of the present on In making withdrawals of government landa from entry under homestead and other I laws and of congreea m removing all I Bj built one of the greatest commoa doubt a to th validity of them with-1 we4ltBi . thc country. Tou are Bot drawale aa ft great step In the direction " .. of " "l enervation. But It la only the flrat Kanaang-to use the worts one of two necessary atepa to effect what , progressiva and Insurgent Your fore should be our purpose. It haa produced j ,atlier, vere the creators of the very d Principle, oo-'1" ' the method for their proper disposition If they had not been progressive fe sa wn be formulated. But It le of the ut- I (u would Bot be the Stat today urn moat Importance that such wlthdrawala , . -.'- ahould not be regarded as th final atep ' "' .. In th course of conservation, and that I "Keep on pushing until the word the Idea should not be allowed to spraao t that eonaervatlos. la the lying up or .n. natural reeourcee of the government for Indefinite withholding from use and the remission to remote generatiooe to decide what ouebt to be done with the means of promoting preaent eeneral human com fort and prorresa. For. If so, ft Is eertaln te arouse the greatest opnoaltlon to coo-sej-vatlon ee a cause, and tf It were a correct egression of the purpose of eon-aerv-ioniis It onsht to arouse thla op po.it,.n. A I hae said eiMwhere, the pr(,t-;m te fenar to eav end l,nw to nnl- It. " ""'V .,.,,;' - -r no eanv - -- ' r i' e en n e---d tlist ee - f birse- nnuul be awed of-r nnoorn I,: ,.-,:.' !. 1 ha of yoa. IS'-"" M ' OUT AT ST. P.UL Told Westerrf Governors What He . ' Thought of Their Plans. WOULD KICK BALLINGER OUT Ha Noticed That Every Man Who Beaks t 8ecur Natural Rt- , "" gourcea tor Prlvat Gain , j ::-..:.-. Oppoaa Plnehot. " i 8t Paul; Sept . Got. Btubta who wag prealdjog at the governor' aea- Jion oi lue conservation .cuugieoB t, trifled tha meeting y a vlgoroui Ilvo mlnutea apeeoh In which big tb.oJgb.ta were expressed tn plain language. - '.Governor Hay of Waahlngton at tacked the , officer of. the congress, , charging them with having tried to, prevent proper preaentation of; Wjh fountain and Pacific states sneered ' at' ' tie conservation j astoclatlcn' of wnlch Jlncliot 1 president and laid that the bureau "conservation tg and their gupportera could not have served the special Interest! better It they had been In their pay. j It wag then '.bat Stubba manifested restlessness,' XVhc n Governor Brooks s of Wyoming fol- . lowed with a similar though leas ex--treme speech Stubba got ready for ac tion. , Before Brooks waa seated, Stubba was standing. . - Old Not Com to Talk. ' "1 came her to preside, not to talk," he said, "but I am going to taik." I will not stand for the abuse of the men who are responsible for the con servation, movement The : greatest man In the country today .Is Theodore Roosevelt, . and the greatest thing : Eoosevelt ever ;. started was this con servation business. And the next great est man on this score is Glfford Pln ehot The country ought to "put up monuments to both of them. It was Plnehot who prevented the validation of the Cunningham claims,- which If they had been validated aa Ballinger proposed would have . robbed the country of ita Alaska coal. If I were president I would kick Ballinger out of my cabinet In five minutes. .- , - No Government Monopoly. J" "It Is all sheer foolishness to talk aging monopoly.: I -notice one Ihlno, ever? 'land thief, every water powefr .? grabber1, every man or corporation 'or trust aeeklng to use the natural re sources of the public landa for private profit, la In favor of fltats conserva tion. That's because these Interest believe they can handle state legisla tures better than they an handle tha federal government. President Taft's speech this Jnorn- - ing was In fine support of the federal idea. The thing that's the matter with these western interests is mat iaej do not want the kind of regulation -that Roosevelt and Plnehot have ea- tabllshed ,and that President Tart pro poses. -They wait a free hand to grab and use the natural wealth for their own uses.. They do not like this con servation association, because it keeps ' tab on them and la ; educating the ...ni. r , - , GOMPERS MESSAGE TO KANSANS Should Prove True to Their Fathera Who. Laid Foundation Upon Which . Great Stat la Built ' " Kansas City, Kan, Sept. 6. Sam uel. Gompera, President of the Amer can Federation of Labor, spoke to a Urge crowd of union men and visitor! t carnival Park last night, where tht . ... t-i. Merchant's and Manufacturer's Fait la being held. Mr. Gompera went di rectly to the park after speaking 'at Electrio park and later left for hi home In vVaahicgton, D, C. ,- -j have brought a menage to tht fallen of Kansas." he said, "and amY going to make it a abort one, because " yoa people are here tonight for pleae are, not to hear a long talk on 'Work ' "You must prove true to your lath era. They were the men who laid the foundations upon which Kansas - nrogretslve' will not be used as a po- lltlcal term alone, but at aa isduauiaj term alto." : - , Drowned Returning from Funewal, Heaeanton, K., Bept 7. While re turning home from the funneral of W. G. Scost who was ar-citJcntaKy drowned, Vss Mlntti Dk-bm. vai drowned in a ravine which Is d ? ai! y.-ar eirvpt after heavy rains. A I I ii g culvert overturned the t- r-v o .- -,. p ro- t-r Y t-a I 'i' ' rr. 1-r r i l.e- i i tiroustir. 1 -.- ( t and 1 . ' 1 a few " ,t It, fiLiedue i 4 ll aoiJ:g ta IMS Re-c'srrstn, -, p .e f a.1 en tr St. L "it f- ft be nf