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jndits Nelli on explained that ho wu only addressing
witness then continued! I wns willing IhstJf
Tilton wont before the Commlllcn n««l exonerated mo
(list I slmiilil drop All further slolcmcnt*. aud I wii
wl'llng that thin plan of MmiltonV, m 1 hcvo explained
It, should ho pul In o)>crnllon. In the Interview of Jnn.
I. when Tilton lirnltwtetl lo six-nk to me, Moulton Bald
bo ought to l>o satisfied with tho explanation mndo.
the untY BTontKa ahout TII.TOX.
Mr. Fullerton here read o letter written to the wit*
teas by Dowell.
g.—At whoso suggestion did yon wrllo that litter to
/tenry 0. Bowen on tho 20th of January, 1R717 A.—
Well It was, I suppose, both mine and Moulton’s sug
tcslloti. It grow out of tho conversation.
g.—Did It grow out of tbo conversation of tholslf
ft.—Yes; no, sir—yes, sir; tbo couvcrsallon of the
Q._Whal did yea siy to MonVon wllb reference to
ibc content) I-dod letter lo lb.Win ? A.—l don’t rccol
tectlt. My real ccilon Is that, In discussing these
dories, ho pronounced them utterly false that Bowen
hod told, sud, In commenting on any addition lo them
I bad made, ho slated on his word of honor that they
were falto; and, in regard lo—more Ibaa that, bo
know personally
g.—Now will you stato wimt was your object In
writing to Bowen on tho 2d of July 7 A.—-Co disabuse
bis mind of tho Impression I had left on it by state
"S—Wat that all T A.-Tbafs all I recollect now.
y.—Volt did not expect to ofTcel any other object f
A.—l don’t now recollect any other motive, right or
did not expect to do anything else than to
remove ony impression that you bail mado oo tbo
mind of Bowen 1 A.—So fur an 1 recollect now
g.—lt was nut for tho purpose to reinstate Tilton in
hit lost position 7 A.—l don’t rccohoct any such mo
tive on my part.
Q.—Well, Mr. Beecher, bow did it happen, If you
were so overwholiroJ with grief ou tho Ist, when yon
dictated or made suggestions to Moulton which caused
him to write the letter—the Iclbr of apology—when
>ou were walking up nnd down thu room lu such men
ial agony and distress, weeping profusely, thinking
you wore about to hico your Intellect because of what
you bad done to Tilton,—
(baton thonaxt day, wucii yon wrote the letter to
Bowen, that you did nut manliest some of that feeling?
Can you explain that 7 A.—l wao writing to 11. 0.
Bowen in cue case. I was talking lo Tlitou's repre
sentative lu the other. Not—
Q.—Dot moroad tliln letter: “ Brooklyn, Jan. 17.
—Mr Dear Mr. Howiin: Since I saw you last Thus*
day 1 have reason to lliluk that thu only eases of which
1 spoke to you In regard to Tlltou were exaggerated In
being reported to lue, and I should l>« unwilling to
have anything I cald, though it was hut llttlo weight on
ymir tnlud. In u ur.tlcr no important to his welfare. I
ttn Informed by one on whoro Judgment and integrity
1 greatly rely, and who has the tuoaua of furminu uu
opinion hotter than any of us, that ho knows tho whole
niatt.r about Mrs. —, and that the atones aro not
true, and that the sumo is tho coso with tho other
rtories. Ido not wish any reply. I thought it only
due tu Jtutlco that I should say so much.” You did
not even want a reply from Bowen 7 A.—l did not, U
don't recollect.
g.—Did not yon want to learn whether you did re
move from his mind any impression you hud made by
«h>.t you had sold to him? A,—l don’t recollect that
1 did.
g.—Did not you core 7 A.—l don’t recollect that It
came to my mind.
g. —Did not yon care whether tho letter bad effected
its object 7 A.—l don't recollect 1 had any considera
tion of that kind.
Q,—Whstjjood did you expect that letter to do Til
lon 7 A.—To take away tho strength of whatovcrforco
(hero was in my stutumunts to Dowen.
,* Q.—Which was but very llttlo? A.—Very little, but
rhutuver there whs of them.
g.—Did you go to soo Uowen? A.—l did.
o.—Did you have any Interview or correspondence
rltii him on the subject. A.—No, sir.
g.—And that is all that you said or did in regard to
tho Injury that you supposed you had indicted ou
Tntou through Dowen?- A.—l took it all hack.
Q.—ls that all you said or did 7 A.—That’s all I said
Tt did as fur as 1 can recollect now.
Q.—You had no interview with Dowen? Hone st
g.—Sent no message ? A.—Bent no message,
g.—You bad no corresjiomlonco other than that?
A.— Usd no corrcsjiundouca other than that, so far as
my memory now serves me.
Q.—l call your attention now to the letter of Fob, 7.
I wish you would state, Mr. JJoechcr, what preceded
tho writing of these letters, which caused them to lie
written 7 A.—Wsll, sir, tho question of tho establish
ment of Tilton In bis business was the question uppetv
most In our minds; largely to tbs res.oration of har
mony, and jieaoo, and comfort In his family, at an
Indispensable condition ol doing the good work. I
bad learned through Moulton that his wlfs was not
doing her part, and that be was subject, aside from all
other harassment* and anxieties, to be received with
sullen looks and distressful complaints at home, and
that Mrs. Tilton had said that TUtou and Moulton and
I were consulting together for (he Interest of Tilton,
but •
rnd that it was Indispensably necessary, be thought,
that there should be some efforts brought to bear uu
her that she might Uko tier share in thu rebuilding
of (ho family affairs, and my influence with her was
Invoked in order to load her to feel that Moulton, who
counseled me, was a good counselor for her likewise.
On that suggestion and ou that consideration the tot
ters wero written.
Q.—At that time were yon laboring under an Impres
sion that you had won this lady’s affection* 7 A.—
Q.—'Was anything said as to tho feeling which Til
ton entertained toward you at that lime 7 A.—Was
anything said—where do yon mean 7
g.— l urn talking about (his same interview that yon
have given a jisrt of. A.—You are asking ue shout
tbo letter of Feb. 7 7
Q.—Yus. A.—lt was not a single Interview ; U woe
a conversation resumed.
Q.—Well, in any of these conversations anterior to
tho writing of the letter of Feb. 7, was anything said
auout Tilton's feeling toward you? A.—l don’t recol
Q.—Wore there not to bo three letters written that
day? A.—There weto.
Q.—Dy whom were tbey (» bo written 7 A.—l was
to write one.—a letter to be shown to Tilton,—and
Tilton. I understood Moulton, was to write one also.
Q.— I To be shown to whom? A.—l don't recollect
about it.
g.—'Why, was Hoot to be shown to you? A.—l
S resume to; hull did not distinctly know about It.
aturoliy, 1
bettor than his.
Q.—l am not talking about what the letters meant.
2 am talking obout tbo agreement to wrlto the letters.
Von were to write one 7 A,—l was to wrlto two.
Q. —One to Mrs, Tiilou? A.—One to Mrs. Tilton and
cue to Mr. Tilton.
Q.—Tilton was to write one to oomo to you? A.—lie
vu to write one to go to Moulton.
Q. —Very well. Now were there throe letters written 7
A.—l understood so, air. Sly two wore.
Q.—Did you see the third oue? A.—l cannot say
whether 1 saw it at that time, or heard It at that time.
X have seen it.
Q,—How soon after that time did you seo It 7 A.—l
cannot say.
y.—Did you see It after that 7 A.—l cannot say,
Q.—Did you sea it at the time It was written 7 A.—l
don’t think I did.
Q.—You will not swear you did not see tt7 A.—l
can’t, really.
. Q.—Was uot it shown you Feb. 87, 18T17 A.—l
don’t recollect It was,
Q.—l will read It and see If it will refresh your
Drooult*, r«b. 7,1671.—Mr Vutr Veau Fnmru:
In several convenatlona with me you have asked
about my feelings toward Mr. Jloecher, and yesterday
yousalu the time bad come when you would like to
recoiro from me an esprewdon of tbcm in wilting. I
•ay, tbertfoiw, very cheerfully, that, notwithstanding
the great suffering which be baa esused to EllrabelU
snd myself, 1 boar him no malice {*hail do him no
wrong: thall dlacounteuance every project by
whomsoever proposed, with any exposure of bis ae
*? tha, public, and (If 1 .know myself
at all) shall endeavor to act toward Mr, Uoecber as I
would have him, tu similar circumstances, act toward
xoe. 1 ought to add that your own good office* In this
oua have led me to a hlghsr moral foaling than I might
otherwise have reached. Ever years aflsctlonstely,
TIIKO. TlliTOtf,
To Frank Moulton,
Q.—Now, don't you remember that tbut Utter wee
Inown to you by Moulton at or about tho time it waa
•tUten 7 A.—l do not, air. I hardly think it waa
Q.—Well, I call your atlontlon to Uie letter that you
wrote to Uouitoo uu that day, Feb. 7,1871.
Mr Duu Ua. Uoolton j I am glad to aend yon a
book which you will relish, or wblch a man on » sick
bed ought to rellab. 1 wiah 1 bad more like it, and
wot X could aend you one every day—uut oa a repay,
uent of your grevt klndueaa to me, for that oau sever
ra repaid, not even by the lav© which 1 give you freely.
!~*uy, many, friends baa Ood railed up to toe, but to
S?J 04,6 o* them haa Ue ever given theopportunJtv and
me wildcat eo to serve mo an you have.
l Q you la Implicit. You have
youraelf Theodore*! friend andElliabeth’a.
* down ott three unhappy creature* that
son*J?r&u ~ r leD‘ i than these T laltuot anlntlma-
S:" V-P- • Intent of mercy to all that each one of
.l ou 1 tri6d *nd ‘rue friend 7 but only In
IS wX ‘"r<* uidled. Would to God, who order*
.your kind mediation Theodore,
do« wiii{ l !vf.i c V uli . b * made friends again. TUeol
b2 W took In eucb a caae, but boa
be net proved bhnaolf capable of tho nobleit thlugar
improper solicitation.
„ quisiiok.
. Q.—Now, Mr. Beecher, at that lime this charge of
lmprop«r »JdtaUou n toll raiin, nfoa mu, 3u It
oolt A.-SO, to ; 1 tort UaunoZmS U
Was not urged, **• wwvauuy as
0.-I dU totMtlWL DtoThtoloi, Tilton Itotn
Q.—Answer my question. Usd ha taken Ota chain
Uck T A IDs wife naa.
Q.-.Had be taken It back? 1 am not asking about
What bis wife bad dona. X—He had not made 1L
he not mats i charge cn thtlOlln i„Ri
•Mddltcmtuatatttmnlofiwusr 1
Q—Did you regard It simplrss a charge made by
Mn.TlUrnf A.-I rortslnly did.
q —And any such char.ro of Tilton I* not a
charge made by him 7 A.—lie repealed It to me from
C Q—Did yon not iindorrlnnd him aa malting that
eharoo on hie own Udioir against yon ? A.—l
don't know about that. 1 supposed (he charges lo bo
as she lud written.
6,—On tho 7ih of February did yon snpposn that hn
then hollered In tbu charge 7 A.—l could nut (ell
about that. Ilor rtnlnly
Q.—Onn moment. I am not (lilting of what lie did
by word or conduct, hut did yon behove, on Hie 7th
nf February, when vmi wn to (list letter, Hint bo still
bnlicvodtii that charge? It I* yes or no. Itlscillier
you btliovcd It or yuit did not. A.—Well, I don’t
think It Is yes nr no.
g.—Well, it does not serin to bo anything else yet.
A.—Will you Ijo kind enough to Mate (lie question
again, so that I mar *co preiindy the limits of U7
g.—On the 7th of February, la?I, when you wrote to
Moulton that Theodore would have tho hardest task In
such n case,end alleged that hn had proved himself
capable of the noblest things, had you not then sup
posed that hn rested under the belief that yon lud
made Improper ndrsncSH lo bis wife? A.—l doubted
whether iio believed any such tiling as that.
g,—lt wss a mere muter of doubt? A.—All that
was a matter of doubt and lluctnnllon.
nan u iimt.ci ut ui'uni u.r.i i.uit.in.i.oi,
g.—Bid you believe at that time (hat ho thought
that you had made Improjur advances to his wife 7 A.
—I didn't think Unit he did believe so.
g.—At Hint time 7 A.—At tUnt time,'
g,—llow did yon supi*ose, dun, thnt, at that time,
the ImprcfSlc-n or belief bud been removed from bis
mind 7 A.—By tbo good offices of Monllon.
6.—Ho did not toll yoa that he did not belicvott?
q. — one moment. Mr. Moulton had not told you tlisl
ho did not bellero It? A.—l.dou't recall that ho ever
mndo o spcclflcdcuinl.
Q.—(live ns (he best of your Judgment. A.—Ho did
not Iwllcre it at that (line, becres** Moullon and he were
willing to go Into co-opcrfttlon with mo In a manner
which Implied infamy if they believed it. (tiubduod
Q.—ls that (be only reason 7 A.—Thnt Is enough.
Q.—llcnro you said nothing about It 7 A.—Of courts
I did net.
Q.—You did not ask Tilton whether ho believed It or
nut 7 A.—Of course I did not. ’
g.—And, without knowing whether tho Impression
wn* removed from Mr. Tilton’s mind or not, you
wrote that letter 7 A.—l wrote shat letter.
Q.—And without knowing whether the impression
was removed from Mr. Tilton’s mind 7 A.—vViihmit
knowing In any such rornio as we know a philosophical
proposition or mathematical——
Q.—Yes. Well, did you come lo tho conclusion at
that timo whether ho mado originally thn charge
In good follb or not? A.—l had reason to bcliovo
Q.—No, no, Mr. needier. Did you believe at that
tinio that he made tho original charge In good faith nr
nut? A.—Well, Mr. Fullerton, theditllciilty in nn
nwcrlng your questions in not that I urn unwilling, hut
the juniculnr way in wl.i-b you frame your questions
when you want me to giro an olllrmativo or negative
answer to
Q.—Mad no existence? A.—Yes ; (ruins of thought
which would porhajie arise, nr did not, and, If they
did arise, only as Ejaculations, and passed away.
Q,—Well,can’t you say so? A.—l have tried to
onea or twice.
Q,—Whatever you try to say, Mr. Beecher, yon gen
erally siiy, How, I put the qcedlou again. On the
Ith of February, lilt, when you wrote this letter, did
you then suppose that (he original charge of Theodore
Tilton, of Improper advances made against you, had
been made in good faith 7 A.—l don't know that that
came into my mind at all in the making of that letter.
g.—And you were in doubt at that time whether ho
slid beloved thecharge*to he (rue or not? A.—l
don't think it was tho subject matter of coniidcrutlon.
Q.—You did not think of It then at that time 7 A.—
I can't say at that time that I did.
g.—Did It occur to you at that time whether ho
thought ho had made It in good faith 7 A.—Of course
1 should have if the subject had been broached to me.
g.—Did you not take Interest enough in the subject
to think of it 7 A.—l took interest in it, but of a dif
ferent sort.
Q.—Dut not on interest (hit led you to approach the
subject? A. —At what lime 7
Q.—l am talking aliotit tho time of those loiters, when
(ho interviews were had. A.—l cannot tell you what
I thought of Tilton about (hut juried, but you usk mo
what 1 thought at thu time of writing thu letter.
Q.—l am speaking of no such thing. ‘ At that period
did you believe (hat Tlltou had made those charges
against yon in good faith 7 A.—Sir, TUtou had written
hla charges against me.
g.—Tmit won't do. lam asking for tho operation of
your mind at that time. A.— l am trying to give it to
Q.—Toll mo, at thottino tho original charge of im
proper advances was made by Tucudore TUtou, did
you behove It was made in good faith 7 A.—ol im
proper advances? That charge had apparently sank
out of sight.
Deach—l would move to strike that out.
Fullerton—l do move to strike oat. and 1 say again
that ho
Judge Kcllson—That won’t do, Mr. Fullerton.
Mr. FuUorton—l want uu answer to my question,
WJtuoss—My general recollection is tlutat that time,
sir, I thought the charges had gone down.
Mr. Fullerton—N'ow 1 move io strike that out.
judge Nolleeu (to wiimus)—The iuqutry Is whether
at thst time you believed the charges were made in
good faith 7
A,—Originally X believed bo made them in good
J udgo N’ollson—At the lime of writing tho letter 7A;
—At the time of writing (ho letter 1 suppose that that
was my impression,
Fuliurtuu (to witness)— You believed at the time of
writing the letter ho made (ho charge in good faith 7
A.—When ho originally made it 1 did. At tho time of
wilting the letter! behoved ho made it in good faith
whoa he made It originally.
Fullerton (to vincas)—Now, will you slate to this
Jury what Tilton hud done up to that time which
caused you to ray that ho had proved himself callable
of tho noblest of things 7 A.—ll watt a representation
made to mo by Moulton of hla slate of mind toward
Dowon, toward his own jtroepccbi, his pluck and de
termination to work toward mo and toward hla own
household, 1 did not think Tdtou was acting or en
deavoring to act a heroic jisrt,
o.—And you thought b> would have tho hardest
task if you three people ware made frlcuda again 7 A.
—I certainly did.
Q.—And after cocertalnlng directly from him what
evidences ho had that you had made Improper ad
vances to his wife? A.—That is predicated ou the
grounds that wo weru made friends again. To be
made friends In such a slats of facta, that la totally lu
comjmUldc with his confiding belief in the charge.
Q.—Didn't ho say ho wanted to aave his wife end
family from exposure? A.—Did ho say that—when?
Q.—ln conversation with you prior to Feb. 7,18117
A.—lie said ho wanted to prevent the scandal in his
family becoming lame?
Q.—What did you understand by the letter of Fob.
77 A.—That li hie tetter. lie Is better able to
Judge of it?
Q.—Yes, hut whnt did you understand by It 7 A.—l
am not conscious of seeing It, or bearing it, or know
ing of It at all. till a later jwriod, *
g.— You go ou to say in your letter: •• Of coarse, I
ran never sjirak to her again except with his permission:
and 1 don’t know that, even then, it would be bust. 1 '
Whs any arrangement made to get communication
lietweuu you and her? A.—l cnimut determine now,
1 understood that Tilton did nut wish mu to
viorr ms family.
Q.—l coll your aUeutluuda another sentence In that
letter: 14 1 wonder If Elizabeth knows hmv generously
he hu earned himself toward mo," How generously
did he curry himself toward you 7 Did you refer to
the original charge of Improper advances? A.—No,
sir; 1 did not.
y.—You did not refer to any retraction of that
charge, did yon, that bo had made 7 A.—l referred
(n bis carriage toward mo lu view of tbo alienation of
hla wile’s atiectiou from him, and the dlttrcvi which
he hud found lu Uli own household, and my complicity
with Bowou lu Injuring him lu u business prospect.
Q.—Hut you did not consider tbo other churns of
Improper advances, did you 7 A.—l don’t recall that
that entered Into my mlud at that time, air.
Q,—Now, up to this llrno, Usd you had any com
munication with Mrs. Tilton 7 A.—Not that 1 recall,
Q.—Well, don’t you tbluk yon could recollect Ulf
you bad bad any communication wltb ber T Ai—l
certainly bad not been to ber buuie.
Q.—Had you received any letter from bert A.—Not
Ibat I moiled,
Q.—Had you written her t A,—l don't think 1 did.
Q.—Had you received through any other penuu any
xneeßaguf A,—l did not, except through Moulton.
g.—Well, bow long prior to the writing of Uu* letter
of Teh. 7, Itfll, bud be forbidden you to visit her T
A,—l don’t know, air; I euu’t tay.
Q.—Well, iiiat bad not been withdrawn at that time,
bad It 1 A.—l don’t recollect that It bad.
Q,—Well, bow bad he acted eo ((onerously toward
you 7 A.—Tbrougb Moulton 5 the etuto ond attitude
of bia mind, and tbe oipronlona of feeling* wblcb I
deaired from Moulton, and bU wlllbigneu to restore
old friendship end co-operation.
Q,—Then Utter to 3ln. Tilton of the same
date i “ My Dun Mm. Tilton : When I auw you last I
did not expect eyer to see you strain, or to be alive
many days, God was klnclnr to me than were my own
thoughts." What were your own thoughts to which
you referred st that time 9 A.—TLoao that I hid Just
mentioned. A presentment of death ss respects both
her sod myself. I didn’t believe she would live long.
Q. —Wdl, lu regard to yourself, Qni, Usd you any
idea that you were going to bo overtaken suddenly by
death 9 A.—l did. a good mooy times.
Q.*-Wcll, bow often f A.—l could not. count them,
sir. but It Is not au uncommon thing,
Q.—Well, on what day did you apprehend sudden
death 9 A.—Well, at those times evidently under the
exceeding pressure sod exceeding anxiety that I felt.
Q. (reading]— '* God was {kinder to me than were
my own thought*. M That implies that your own
thought* were unkind. Can you explain that? A.—
Well, it doee not really teem to me to need explanation,
but 1 will make It, Ood was kinder to me than 1
thought He would be. *■
Q.—Well, if a men apprehends sudden death from
apoplexy or from trouble, do you think hie thoughts
are unkind toward himself t A,—Well, sir, that Is su
expression that would bo tolerated In literature with
out being
Q.—lt did not refer at ell to taking your own UfsT
A.—Ob, no. elr,
Q.—Hut, luseumch as youappreliended sudden death,
your thoughts were unkind, you considered them so.
did your "
Q. (reading}— “ The friend whom Oud sent to me
{Ur. MuulUm) has pro**! above all other friends Chat
ever I had { able and willing to help me in this ter
rible emergency of my life, ilia hand U wua that tied
up the storm that was ready to bunt upon our heeds. 11
That word * oar," you referred to yourself and Mrs.
wore addressing? A.—l referred to all that were <?on
cemod in (bat trouble.
Utl 11 (aI JIJ lu.l i I 'fill 11V.
g.—Well, what chirm was about lo burnt upon the
leads of yourself and Mm. Tilton 1 A.—Apparently
die storm of a illecloiura of n family difficulty which
would bj iicandaloita n.itt dangerous, ami
Q.—Did not ATr, Tilton, on (he night of the JDlh, loir
tip Die pajwr nnd any that was the end of It 7 A.—.No,
bo didn’t say that la the end of it.
Q,—Did yon uiulersluml that thn charge was to bo
renewed against you after that? A.—l didn't under
stand anything about what was tbo future. Them
was no Intimation of It. It was an Interview with a
beginning and without an end. That Is the results to
which It was going. Wo won In suspense.
g, (reading)—" He,*' that Is, Mr. Moulton, •• will be
as true a men to jour liMtorand baj pluess as a
brother should lw lo u ulster,” Did you think the hou
or of Mrs. Tilton was Involved in tills matter ? A.—l
thought It was, lu a very great degree, In Ibe public
g.—Howf A.—Uy that way which
reports everything about n woman.
g.—Yea, It would dishonor ber were It charged
that you bad made improper advances, Mid that shu
had resisted? A,—Yes; I think (hat would.
g,— I That was the reason you used tbo expression?
A.—No, sir; not that. You naked mo a separate ques
tion, ami you cannot carry It back over tbo whole
o.—Now, that Is tbo first communication you ad
dmnod to Mr*. Tilton afirr tho night of tbo 20th, I
understand you? A.—l think It Is. 1 rcuismlwr no
Q.—ln what light, Mr, needier, did you then view
tho conduct of .Mrs. Tilton In making this written
charge against yon, and which Mr. Tilton had on the
night of tiioßoth? A.—l viewed It In this light: If
you miked mo what was my explanation and Judgmout
In regard to thenutter
Q.—Yes? A.—After much suspense and vacillation
I came to the conclusion that Mrs. Tilton bad gradu
ally cornu Into
tho concealment of which, then tbo outbreaking of
which, and tho anxiety that came from domes
tic discord la consequence of which, together
with the indignation of her husband,had shattered bet
both in liudy and mind to a drgreo lu which wa*
scarcely responsible.
1 judged her to Ik* a very guilty person, and looked
on her with Indignation. I mads no allusion toll
In the letter of Fob. 7, because I wanted to win ber
over to Moulton’s Influence uud not to vindi
cate myself by any moans. 1 hod an
interview with TUlon at his bouse in tbo first part of
February, IH7I. I went lu his house in the morning.
Mr*. Tilton wss not present. Tilton sent for me, nnd
1 learned of him the object of It. It was conversation,
tbo first part of which wan about Bowen, and tho
great wrong bo (Bowen) bad done him. lie said ho
felt that
not only liy Uowen, but ou account of hla being re
tnoreil from both papers. Uls wish, ns ho txnreaaod
it. was to show that ho was not guilty of these charges.
1 do not recall charges of improper proposals now al
luded to ou thin occasion. At that Umiihesald the
stories ell ciliated about him were those of another fel
low with his Initials, who went about the country do
ing all sorts of thing*, mid for which ho was credited,
No allusion was thou made by either him or me with
regard to improper proposals. This seemed tu be the
breaking of all difficulties, and It was In a wty
to a fair settlement, which I believed time
would Direct, so far asha was concerned. I did not
think It was proper that my intercourse with the
family should bo resumed. Tho May interview was
tho brief one to which 1 received a summons from
Tilton. When 1 went thorn something scorned to
have disturbed him. Wo talked fur fifteen or twenty
minutes, and in some remarks I made to him I tame
over uml sat ou his knee. Me. Tilton camn hi and
laughed, and came over and kissed me. I offered no
objection, nor did I make any reply then to these
charges. At tho Interview of lira middle of February,
as a sign of amity and amnesty. 1 suppose these
kisses were Inspirational, and no covenant was entered
into. Tilton said to hla wife that 1 had acted honestly
in taking all (he blame ou myself. Tilton also said
that hla wife had ulan taken all (ho blame of what had
occurred. My family left Florida in February. They
mot Moulton in tho Houth. 1 have down in mv
memorandum hook (hat Moulton went to Florida
March It, and 1 think ho returned ou thu IGth of April.
Q.—“ llecaufio I thought it would gladden you to
know this, and cot to Double or embanaa you in any
way, I now witto.'' How did you understand that 7
A.—Well, I understood it Just as it is, if I undcndonl
It at all. I have no dKlliic t le.ollectlon of running
through an Interpretative process of every lino of that
Q.—• I ask you now how you interpret it? A.—That
sho did not wiidi to give in u concern, and wanted tu
asHiirc mo that everything was right with her.
Q. —Did she think that yon had any concern after
leaving therein February, IH7I, when tho kiss wont
round 7 A.—Mho might very well think that I would
be concerned whether or not she and her husband
would got along together.
g.— '* Of course 1 should Uko to shsro with you my
Joy, bull can wait fur tho beyond ? " A.—Thai is,
ilu iveti.
g.—Ur was it tho future of this life 7 A.—Oh, no,
sir. It is written with a big U there, and means
Heaven beyond this lower sky. Watts says,—well, let
us not have a bytun given out now, [ljuiglHer.J
Q.—llul you were asking what it .meant, and you
can give It to us without giving out s hymn. [Head-
Ing.J “When dear Frank says I may once again go
to old Plymouth I will thank the dear lather."
What was tho argument, if any, about going to old
Plymouth 7 A.—l don't know. That was some
Q.—Wull, we will Uko uji'tho other letter, of May 3,
1811. [Heading.] “My future, either for life or
death, would be lisppler, could I but feel that you for
gave mo while you forgot mo 7"
Q.—How did you interpret that? A.—Well, sir, I
cannot tall you. 1 don t remember receiving and
rending tho letter, and 1 don't remember tho Aral im
pression upon it.
g.—•• In all tho sad complications of the past year,
ray cudoavor was entirely to keep from you all suffer
ing { to bear myself alone, leaving you forever igno
rant of it.” Did you Interpret that at tbo time 7 A.—
1 jtroßiimo I did nt tbo time.
Q.—Do you remember what the interpretation was?
A.—l don't rememlwr what tho Interpretation was
that 1 tuadoAt the time.
q.—WcU, cau you glvo ns tho one that you make
now 7 A.—l wilt If you will be kind enough Ui let me
mhi tholetlcr.
Q.—Certainly (handing witness tbo letter]. A.—
Well, I understand It that she full that she had dune
mo wrong, and, in a very delicate way, übo Intimates
that consclouanosi, and oaks forgiveness, and says
during tho past year she tried—nbcv—tbut I bad
hlatiud her, midor representations made tome, for
her not taking her sharo in tho rebuilding of (he fam
ily, and conaulUng private feelings, and she given her
natural and delicate ollualon to that lu thos? words,
'* My weapons-
Q.—No, no; 1 have not got to that. A.—Oh, I beg
Q. (Heading)—' 4 In all tbs sad complications of tbs
past year, my endeavor wan entirely to keep from you
ull auilerlug, to boar myself slono, leaving you for
ever ignorant of it." A.—Well, the troubles that came
up in her household during tbo year put, so far as
'possible, 1 was not to be annoyed by—
Q.—’well, you wore cent for on the HUt of December
to go to the bfliieo, were you uot 7 A.—No, sir. I was
scut for to go to Mrs. Morris’—l mean Mrs, Mono’s.
y.— Well, I said to tbo house whore alio was 7 A.—
But then sue la not referring to that period.
(j.—Gnu moment. Don’t go too fast. Her difficul
ties wore made known to you then, were they not?
A.—Borne of bar difficulties were madu known, but
but you nstc mo tbo interpretation of that letter.
y.—Yes. A,—And I Interpret It by saying that Z
undentaud It not to refer to tun period of lb7o, but
the subsequent period, from 1870 to tho data.
Q.—Why, air. It was written on May U, 1871, and
speaks of the complications of tbo post yesr 7 A,—Ob,
then It does Include—l did not notice tbo data of it.
Q.—ltdiHislucludoT A.—ltdoea Include that.
y.—bbe dues uot, os you think, refor to the fact that
you wore there In the December previous, sud beard
whit domestic difficulties there existed, did you 7 A.
—That did uot occur to me.
y.— Didn’t It oocur to you that there was noma other
difficulty that.aho wan laboring under, that she al
luded to 7 A.—l thought it very likely.* Them were
many, sud I think so yet.
r y.—Now, don’t you think It was this difficulty that
she bad confessed-to bar husband, and made him
promise nut to reveal ItT A.—l don’t boliovs any
sur.U thing as that
Q.—You do notf A.—No sir; I believe It In
with her hiubaud ou my account.
Q.—A'eil, now, will you tell me if you pleaae what
dllllculiy, or wlmt trouble, or vrbat adhering*, thero
had been during the paat year. 1 mean tuu year pro
ceeding the writing of thu loiter, to which aho made
reference, and which had uut Woo uiado known to
you T A.—Thcro vu a great dead, air, of which eub
eequcntly 1 heettme aware.
g.—Huuw<iuouUy to the receipt of thie letter 7 A, —
Yea, air.
Q.—Then you did not Interpret It In the light of that
knowledge 7 A,—No, air, hut I now aoe.
Q.—Uut, Interpreting the letter in the light of the
knowledge that you bad on the day that It wu re
ceived 7 A.—lfcay—> '
Q.—Oue Moment; will yon (ell diii what Buffering
or what trouble la referred to there that had not been
known to you 7 A.—Mr, Fullerton. 1 have told you al
ready that whatever eh« meant In that letter—l do out
remember what 1 Interpreted at the time I received It,
und you aak me what X interpret now, and I now eay I
understand it differently,
Q.—l don't aak non what you iotorpret It now.
Didn't you regard It e« referring to a dilikulty between
bench and her huaband, which waa uut made known
to you on the 17lh of December, when you were at
Mrs. Mnrae’e? A.—l cannot eay tuat 1 interpreted It
eu, fur I do cal remember what impreaalou U made on
my mind at tbe time.
.J .... uI kuq UIUD.
Q.—You did loam afterward, however, that Mrs.
Tilton bad confessed to htr husband on theSduf
July of that year, Itfo, did you.not? A.—l heard
that she had, daring (hut time,
an Inordinate affection fur me.
Q,—Didn't you hour that alio oonfeeued to him that
you bad made Improper advances V A.—l don’t think
that 1 understood U on the July interviews.
Q.—DU nut understand It from Theodore TUton on
the night of Deo. 309 A.—No, 1 don’t think 1 did. It
may have been. X was In s~—
Q.—Don’t apeak of your condition, I want to know
now positively whether you did understand, on July
8, M*o, that the charge of improper approaches by you
was made against you 9 A.—Vos (with a rising in-
Q.—l'ieoae answevt A.—My reply Is that mymlud
was, ae I recollect, then lu a stats which was not lu ac
cordance—that 1», 1 did not mineriund the truth as
It suhvsquauilr appeared to be.
Q.—Didn’t Mr. ilitou. on the night of the tiOth of
December, say to you that you had made Improper
advance# to bis wife, and tint he bad evidence oilt
ou the 3d of July previous 9 A.—l don’t recollect that,
aa according to my correct recollection.
(h—l read from this Utter i “Uy weapons war* lots,
a Larger, urn Urine gs&eroelly. and nestddding.* What
T now understand whst they wero used for. Ido cot
remember what I then understood.
g.—Shorivs: “ In all the iad complications of the
jjibl ycyf my endeavor wm to entirely kocpfrotn you
all miuerlug / A,—Vet, Hr,
g,_»»To l«ar myself alone, having you forever lg
nor-nt of It." “My wcsi-ons," I aiipp<»r,toeik‘Ctuato
thiit ondcav»r. was It not ? A.—Web, air, that is—
g. (lUadlog)—“Moro love, u larger, uniiiing gen
erosity, and »i<MMn(jfnff.*’
“g,—Don't you understand that lliat was the uii (bat
“c pul those weipous to. naitifljr: to effotunte tho
endc ivur to keep from you all milrrlitg 7 A.—l can
not Mvwlnt I then imderaloHi, l know perfectly
well wlmt (ho letter aroma to mo now to
g.—Won’t yon bo kind enough to explain wlm you
understood at that Lime uetUbiditig to moan 7 A.—
No, air S I ranuot. .
g.—Hail you no belief upon tho subject? A.—l
Lave no rccollactlon of the stale of mind produced liy
(bat letter. {Handed » letter,] 1 think 1 wrote this
In the latter part of January, 1872. U was written in
jepjy to au answer from Air*. Tilton. Ido not know
why the tudinary salutation wjs omitted, or
ordinary algnaturo, but It could have been for no re a
aon. Up to thli (line I thought that Mrs. Tilton had
I had met her In February and .May prior to writing
this letter. 1 Raw her on on* nrcHhion when uh«
came with her tKiby Inn omiiic to Mr. Moulton's, I
think also I met her In the f«ll of lh7l ut her house,
mis Interview lasted about half an hour. Mm. Til
ton did not avow then that I had alienate 1 her affec
tions. Ido not remember that anything was said
about tho charges of improper pro|/>v.ls to her,
or tho retraction letter, or Its recalling. No
word of admonition, no word of rebuke,
passed between ns, hut there w«* it Rcnplur.il ad
monition, Tuo party uuUtde who w»s to U* consoled
by Mrs. Tilton was, 1 i ltaume. inym f, and this was lo
bo done by her own will, being in her hous-diuM sml in
no other way. I did not e*i>*i; tto l»o cheered by the
loiters of true Inwardness which I ai.kcd her lo send
me. Ism unable lo explain thof.o terms, unless lam
nllowen to go on to do bo, I Bald It would
bo safe because abc requested that the** Idlers
with regard to her unworthlm-ss should not
1)0 allowed to fall into Mr. Atoullou'a hands.
Bho uudertlood that some of her letters
had been given to Moulton, I undmtoid so from
what ho said to mo when 1 «*'d It would lo safe b»-
cau«o my sister wua there. I meant they would not hi
liable to go astray and fall into other Laud-. 1 re
ceived a letter from Mn*. Tilton after this, hnt 1 do not
recollect that I wrote auy other mjsclf. (Shown Ex
hibit 18, dated Ist January, 1 >71.) Ido not rucodo t
how 1 scut these Icllern to Mm. 'iiltun. I sunt the Ut
ter of tho 7th of February by Air. Moulton, but I do
‘not know how I sent the others. I told her I would be
in How Haven that week, beoaiifto I thought
1 did not write to tell IhU to any oilier memlier of my
congregation. I may have told Uitmtu. I dll not
want to account to her for my absence. 1 went to see
her, tut not by appointment. lou not remember that
Iwn asked to call, but presume it was intliodar
time. I went to mate a immoral call upon
her, but never spoke to her on any other
than religious topics. I communicated to her
the fact that my wife was about to takettio boat for
Havana aud Florida on Thursday. 1 pmuine I went to
New Haven. Tills was not the time 1 mot Tilton on
tbucars. Tho conversation between us was not con
fined entirely to religious subjects, [Shown another
letter.] 1 called on her three time* Uforo tbo
writing of this letter. 1 think It was written In the
fall of 1871. I recollect It by Florence bringing me a
Uttlo note about her mother tieiugln trouble, I then
wrote mi answer, stating that 1 would sea hex on Fri
day of the next week.
Witness [banded Kxblblt 10]— I do not recollect tbo
receipt of this letter, or wbat I did with it. I sujpo»«
I took it to Mr. Moulton, that It might bo eafe. 1 do
not recollect that I explained to htm what it meant.
Thodale U Out. 34. There la no year given, nor do 1
recollect It. I can only flx tbo date suggestively as tho
year in which May Bradshaw wan married.
Q.—Lot ua road it, wud nee if it will bring it to your
recollection [reading Mrs. Morris' letter];
41 My dear son. ” Perhaps you may os well now able
why she called you her son ? A.—Well, we were at a
wedding, which I attended, and I think it waa May
Bradshaw's, but I am not qulto certain about that, and
in tho room off tho bach parlor Mis. Mcrse and 1 were
thrown together, and sho wan staling to me her trials
and troubles, and. among others, mat sho waa sepa
rated from her children, and that her suns were not
living with her, aud that her daughter was substan
tially separated from her, aud she was in groat trial.
Hho had nobody to advise with aud commit, aud 1 said
to her, 44 Well, consult with mo os If Xwu your sou. 1
will give you all tho help 1 can.”
Q.—How much wore you her senior? A-—'That la a
question that I never proposed to her, and I have not
the Slightest idea how old nhu was. [laughter.]
Q.—You were bur senior, wera you not 7 A,—l don't
know, sir.
y.—You have no Judgment open that subject 7 A.—
No, sir; none.
(j.—You think that is tho way sbo came (o address
you oa 44 My dear sou ” 7 A.—l know no other way.
Q.—Because you told her to consult you us If you
wore her sou? A.—Because she came tome saying
that she bsd no sou. or no person to consult, and X
■aid, 41 Consult me."
(j,—U r 11, perhaps this last centcnco will throw tomo
light upon the subject [reading]: *• When 1 have told
darling, 1 felft as If I could in safety to yourself and
all concerned—you would bo to mu all thin endearing
name signifies. Am I mistaken? (Signed) Motiiuu.”
Was there any suggestions made tatwoeu you and her
that gars rise to that expression 7 A.—None, that 1
remember, sir.
Q.—Did you answer that letter 7 A.—Not that 1
recollect, sir.
y.— l will road another and sea If It will throw any
light upon tbo subject [reading]: 44 Do you know.
1 think it alraugo you should ask mo to call you sou?"
Did you ask her to call you sou? A.—ln no other way
than 1 have stated.
Q.—Did you explain any of these things to Moulton
when you curried the letter to him 7 A.—l don't be
lieve 1 did. To explain a letter of Mrs. Morse to Moul
ton wss not our habit.
y.—tllio says iu tills letter : " I will promise <lmt
tbo secret of her Ufa, os sho calls It, shall not ho men*
Honed.” Whose llfu did sho rotor to there, as you in
terpreted the letter 7 A.—lt Is not for me to say, fur
1 don’t recollect U. It Is not my language.
(J.—Tho language was addressed to you, vu it not 7
A.—lt was.
Q.—And you took the tetter to Moulton to hare It
kept Kite 7 A.—Yes, sir; but It was lira. Morse's let*
tor to mo about what Tilton had said, uud uow you ask
mo to /say what two women laid—what 1 thought
■bout U,
Q,—Yes, I ask you what you did think about it 7A.
—Aud I (ell you 1 don't kuow.
Q,—Did you kuow then? A.— l don't suppose I
g.—You formed no opinion about it? A.—l don't
suppose 1 did. My Impression la that 1 did not read
tho letter.
Q.—Let ns read a little further [reading]! 11 My
dor hug spent moat of yesterday with me. tine said ml
sho j tad m the way of nioucy was S4O per week,
which was fur food and all other household cx
tionics, aside from rent, aud this was given her
by the hand of Anulo Tilton every riattmlay. If you
kuow anything of the amount U Ukea to And food fur
eight people, you must know them's Unto loft for
clothing. Mho told mo he (T.) did not take uny meals
home, tront tho fact that ho could not get such food aa
he liked to nourish hfa brain [luughlor], and so he
took hilt meals at Moulton's. Just think of that.
1 am almost crazy with the thought, Du come
and see me. 1 will promise that tho secret of
her Ule, oa sho calls It. ahull not be men*
tiuned. 1 kuow U Is hard to bring It up, as
you must have Buffered Intensely, aud wo all will, I
it,:, r, till rcloaaod by death." Note, did you know what
shorclcrml to there In Hunt uddrcaoUig you? A.—
Do you ask my present knowledge?
g,—At tho Unto you received that letter didn't yon
know what Mrs. Morse referred to In speaking of the
secret ot Mrs. lillou’s life, which she was hot to men
tion lu your presence? A.—l np'.y to you specifically
about that eoulcnco, wliot 1 have told you generally
about tho whole letter, that 1 do not remember what X
thought about tho contents of it.
g,—Didn't you think it referred to.the domct.Uo
troubba lu that family? A.—l cannot say that 1
thought It did, when 1 have Just staled that 1 don’t
rcinciidier what I thought.
g,—Never mlud enlarging upon 11. Did you not
think it referred to tbo charge that Tiltou hsd muds
agaiiiht you of improper solicitations ? A.—l do not
rumemler what 1 thought about it iu any way, manner,
or sort.
g.—lt was a thing that did not make any Impression
ui>on your tulud, vrue it 7 A.—My luipreeslou u that 1
did not even read it.
g.—Uow 7 A.—My impression is that I
Q,—What did you want U kept safe uud take it to
Moulton for, then 7 A.—Mouitou wue thu depository
pretty much of all the papers that related lu auy way
to this case.
g.—Oh, did ibis letter rebio to this case? A.—lt
related to It by this, that Mrs. Morse and Tilton were
g.—Wed, did you road 11 far enough to find that
out 7 A.—l knew that, air, without loading that lot*
O.—You did ? A.—Yea, air.
g.—Did you instinctively kuow, without reading it,
wbut was lu the letter, so as (o auuo to the conclusion
mat it related to this difficulty, aud eu take it to Mr.
Moulton for eufo-kerplug 1 A.—A letter from Mrs.
Morse would go to Mr. Mouitou anyhow, whether 1
know the couteuts or nut. ...
g>—That is not what 1 asked you 7 A.—lt la the
■ubetauco of what you asked,
g.— No, it is not. If you did not ascertain the con
tents of that iuttor by lauding it, bow did It bsppm
that you look It So Mr. Mouitou upon tlio theory that
it related to some dlilicully that eaUlod between your
self aud Mr. Tilton,or between Mrs. Morse audMr.Td
tuu 7 A.—Mr. FiJlorUm, you uku a inter and giauco
your eye over it, and aao wbal He content* relate to,
aud thuu you don’t care about going through it.
y.-Is that the way you did? A.—l presume that le
the way. I don’t recollect, . .
g.— You think you looked Into 11 far enough to see
(but it rotated to tine matter 7 A.—Jual enough to eee
that it was a complaint about Mr. TUtou aud his fami
ng.— Did you look at that letter Just enough to see
that it referred to the difficulty in that family, speak
ing of this secret of Mrs. Tilton's, whlcu wae not to
be msmluned in your presunou it you come to ee« her?
A.—l do uot reoolloct it.
Witness continued: I do not kuow when I Oral
beard ibat the mandat bad got out, but I think the
brat intimation given me was in Mrs. WoodhuU* card
in May, 1971, ldo uot now recollect of Mr.
having told a number of bis friends about it. I
recollect there was a time when the subject of
the troubles in this household was discussed
between Ur. Mention and me ee having been
spoken of lu public by Mr. TUlon. I remember there
was sa interview between the three of ui, but whether
II—ObMtUSoMUUa*M* IMlnUlMtaXllf
ton's family I cannot recollect, Mr, Motnton assured
no tbit he had not; that the statement was exagger
ated, and Mr. Tilton denied that he had told it to
twelve persona. Ido nut know how long tefore the
publication of tbo Woolbtill card that 1 far Mr.
Tilton. Ido not rrrol'e’l Miat an Interview waa had
with Mr. Moulton at whirl: It waa decided that
I aaw Mr. Tilton and ho told no ho hnd an Interview
with Mrs. Woodhull, and had jiersuadud her nut to
Interfcro with the troubles lu his houaehoid. Ido not
recollect ever having approved of any of his steps
taken with Mre.Wo-Klliull to atop tbo stories, nor did 1
over know theao interviews took plaro until
after. Nothing was ever Raid between in, nor was I
consulted toforo he went lo seo Aire. Woodhull. Ido
not recollect when my m at interview with him about
wan. My hnpre**lr.n 1r It was not until the fall of
IWtJ, Up lo tills tl'l,o I have heard the difficulty Lo
tweeu nio and Mr. Tilton had got out, anil that there
was talk about it. 1 never herd of
this dlilleully In detail before (ho Woodhull
pulltcatlou of 1872, and that Mr. Tilton charged me
with an ofleme, I remember receiving a loiter from
my nephew, Air, F, IS. J'erl.lne, [Kbown letter dit.;d
Fob. ID, 1871.] This Is the letter 1 loeulved (shown
exhibit 47], and this l« my rei.'y lo It. lam stilt un
able to any If I had board of Ibis charge at this time,
ao far as Air. Tilton was concerned. Mr. Tlowou had
ceasod to believe tho stories against him at that time.
Q.—Lei roo road a clause from your nephew's letter ;
(Reading.) “Theodore has been Justifying or excus
ing hla recent Intrigues with women by alleging that
you have been detected in the like adultery, dm aunu
Jiavlug been hushed up out of (Oasiderailon for tne
partlos "7 A.—You are referring lo tho Ilmen letter /
Q.—Did you understand It as referring to the Ilmen
letter? A,—Unquestionably, Tho totter will show It.
Air. Fullerton—l don't uudurßlamt lha it does show
it. By alleging that you haw been detected lu tho like
adulteries? A,—Vi*«, air,
g.—Bowi u’s charges hid been hushed np7 A.—
Certainly they hsd.
Q.—How hud they boon bushed up ? A.—They had
bouu dropped.
Q.—You did not regard them, thrui, as a reference at
all to the charge against you by Mr. Tilton? A.—Not
as 1 rcrnll it.
Q.—Well,let us ace your reply; Feb. 23,1871— 11 VThst
ever Tllloa formerly sold against mo Tho wit
ness—Plcßßa read oiu "Whatever Tilton formerly
Raid against me, and I know the substance of It, he has
wlthdrswn'*/ A.—AVs, sir.
g.—Now, prior to that, Mr. Tilton hod charged you
with Imoroper relations with hifl wife. Lad no not?
A,—That wss not the subject betwoen Tlllou and me.
Mr. Fullerton—Answer the question,
Mr. Evarta—Read tbo whole scuUncc.
And frankly cunfeHnod (hat !ic bad t>een ml»lw] by
BlaiemcQts of one who, whtu coufruutcd, hacked down
from his charges.'*
Mr, Fullerton (to the wllnc«s)—l will ask von
this question [reading]: “Whatever Air. "Til
ton formerly said agdnot me, and I know
tho substance of It, he hat withdrawn."
Now, I sik you whether, prior to the date of thin let
ter. ho ht-d not charged you with having had Improper
relations with his wife 7 A.—l cannot answer the
truth without making a statement besides yes or no.
Q,—Can you tell me whulhcr the charge was made
prior to Fob, 23,1871 ? A.—You csk mo fur tbo Inter
pretation of that letter.
Fullerton—l am not asking you for any interpreta
tion at all,
Witness—'ll is an interpretation you ask of me.
Fullerton—lt is riot, 1 ask you whether, j rlorto
Feb. 1871, Mr. Tilton had nut made the charge
against you of having had Improper relations with lira
wife? A.—He
Fullerton—Well, we will settle that question now.
Now let me read from your direct examination. I
won't re.'d tbo wholecf It: 44 That 1 Lad—that In
cunto'iucuco cf the dlflerenco which bsd sprung uu
between us by reason of my conduct, his family had
well nlffh liean destroyed; that 1 had inhered
tny wife and Lis mother-lu-Uw to conspire for the
separation of the family ; Hint I had corrupted 1111 ra*
beth, teaching her to lie, to deceive him, sud hide
under fair appearances iu-r friendship to me, end that
1 hail made her to do—that I had—that he had mar
ried bernuaof the simplest ami purest women, and
that under my Influence she had become deceitful
and untrustworthy. He said that 1 had tied the knot
in the sanctuary of Ood by which they were to be
bound together m au Inseparable love, had also reached
out my hand to uutio that knot, and to loose them
one from the other. Ha then went on to say that not
only bad I done this, but that 1 hud made overtures
to her of an Improper character—
Kvarts—Head tbo rest of that.
Witness—Will you read tho whole of It, please, sir 7
I'ulleriun (reading)—" Aud again I expressed
some surprise, probably by my attitude. 1 don’t
recollect that 1 talked, but bu drew from his pocket a
strip of paper about 6 Inches by l«tf—like that—
and read to me what purported to be
(he statement of his wife to him that
Beecher bad solicited her to become bis wife
to all intents and purposes, which were signified by
that term or substantially that.
Q. —Now, didn’t he charge you with improper ad
vances? A. —Strictly speaking, he did not.
Q.—Well, I don’t want Rtiythlug but strictly speak
ing. 1 want you to strictly speak and answer tbo
question put to you. Didn’t ho charge you with lur
ing improper relations with bis wife? A.—l do not
ccusider that he dhl, Ptmlly and literally speaking.
Q,—Did you give evidence that I have Juitreud in
your direct examination? A.—l presume 1 did. 1
hsvo not read It since.
Q.—ls it true an I read It 7 A.—l presume it la true
In the seme In which 1 meant It.
Q.—Didn't you understand yourself an saying In the
evideu.e that ho iiisdu the charge first and then forti
fied It by producing thu certificate of hla wife V A,—lf
I used the word 44 charge,”
Q.—Did you understand yourself as saying that 7A.
—Mease repeat the question.
(J,—Didn't you understand yooaelf In your
direct examination as saying: 44 Mr. Tilton
made tbo charge o{ Improper overtures to
bis wife, and then produces a certificate of his wife In
substantiation of the charge 7" A. —1 didn't Intend It
to be so understood, sir.
Q.—You did not. Very well; let it stand
there. Let mo read to you and
aeo whether you over said this
at any other (lino? A.—Ho thru declared that I had
injured him in his family relations, had joined with
hts motncr-hi-law In producing discord in his
house, had advised a separation, and had alienated his
wile's affections from him; had corrupted her muni
nature, aud taught hrr to he insincere, lying, sud
hypocritical, aud ended by chaining that 1 bad made
wicked proposals to her? A.—Very likely 1 said so,
Q.—Kow, iu ssying that, did you refer to tho same
Interview between you aud Tiltou, on tho aoih of De
cember. IB7U 7 A.—l did, sir.
(j.—Then Igo back to iho letter. Well, I will put
this qne,t!on to yon. Do you mean uow to ray that
Tiltou did nut uuo tho night of the llUth of December,
1870. charge you with having made wicked proposals
to his wlfo 7 A.—l xueau to *ut«—
Q.—Do yon mean to state that that didn't take place 7
A.—l mean to state that bo charged me according to
ruj present—
g.—No, do. Now, Mr. Doccher, If you please, 1
don’t vsutwhat you support.
Judge Nellaon—That la the only way to let witness
answer, ami if tho answer Is not proper wo can strike it
out, or n part of tho auswer.
Fullerton—l ask him if he uow means to say that
Tilton dlil not make that charge nr;aln>£ him on tho
night of the IthUt of December, ,HJi).’ II» cither luvunu
it or he does not mean It, and ho can tell no by a sim
ple auswer.
Judgo Ndlion—Ho might moan it in oue ncnco and
not mean It iu another scute. 1 think we mud toko
tho answer.
Fullerton—Your Honor wifi perceive that Mr.
Oeecbcr meant to say that ho wim charged with Im
proper advances by Theodors Tilton on tho night of
the U Jilt of December, 1870, orbs was nut so charged, in
his Judgment. Ido not waul any oration about it. 1
wish to know simply the oihiriUoq of hia own mum,
tho Judgment ho formed iu regard to that interview.
It certainly la a very simple question.
Judge Nellatm—WTiat you read Just now was not
from hU direct examination.
Fullerton—What 1 read first was from tho direct ex
amination. What 1 road In the second place was what
Mr. Ikochcr said upon another occasion.
Judge Kctlaon (to the stenographer)— Bead (ho last
question. Tho stenographer read thu question, nu
g.— Do you mean, uow, to uy that Tilton did not,
or* the night of tho 1101 h of Dccmber, 187 d, charge you
with having made wlcktd proposals to Lis wife?
Fvarla—Your Honor Is awttrs that thu whole inquiry
has been upon (ho point wheihcr thu husband made
tho charge as distinct from making the chargo that his
wife li»d communicated to him.
Judgo Neilson—Now, stlppoe tlio witness should
answer thaPTillon did miks that charge. It would
be legitimate on a redirect esaiuluullou to luqulro ou
whut ho alleged u woe founded.
Beach-Undoubtedly, but ibis difficulty, if your
Honor please, arises upon tbo volunteer declaration of
■be witness that Tilton did not chares him with malt*
inn lmproj«r proposals to his wife.
Evurls— Excepting through hU wife.
Bench—Not excepting through his wife, hut that
be road a )taper or statement of Ills wife's making Uul
imputation, Now wo liavo read what he staled ou his
direct examination. We have read what ho slated
upon another occasion, whorelu ho explicitly declares
that Tlltuu did make tncee charges, nud we now oik
him, for the purpose of enabling him to rectify or
coiiUrm the decimation which be baa made
within a few minutes, whether be meant
lo eay Tilton did uot upon that occasion
make that Accusation. We don't aak him
what ha does mean lo say, we uek blni whether he
meant to eay that.
~4udgo Nillsou [to wllnossl—Give us the boat Answer
you can.
Wituoe*—Vrom my present point of view?
Judge Neilson—Yc«,
The prituiM-X do not regard Tilton as hiving made
that charge |>ersonsily. Jlv charged—
Fullerton—One moment. Did you say that (read*
log) j “ ]|o ended by saying that 1 bad made a
wicked proposal to her. Until he had reached
this I bad llsleued with silence and contempt under
the luijirruiuii that he waa attempting to bully me,
but with the last charge no produced u
paper purporting to ho a writhed stale*
lut-nt of a previous confession nude to him
by hla wife of her love fur me, and Ibat I bad made
proposals to her of an Improper nature.”
Q.—Do you recollect that? A.—l think very likely
those arc my words,
g,—Preceding the confession of his wife, or produc
tion of tin ocrtlflcate of hie wife, did he uot charge
you with making lmproi«r proposals to blewlfo ? A*—
No ; 1 do uot think be did, sir.
Judge Nellaua (The witueis)—The Inquiry la wbetb*
er bo said anything uu tint subject.
The witacae—l know it. X can tod very plainly wbal
the whole la, but
efr. It la a very simple mailer, indeed, In my view,
but, of course, 1 must defer to thu belter Judgment of
Mr. FollrrUm—After having charged yon with msk
lug Improper proposals, did he produce a paper pur*
jKtrllug lo be u certified statement of previous eonfee
alon, made to him by hie wife? A.—Do you ask me?
g,—Yea? A.—X think not.
Q.—You thluk uot? A.—l think not.
g.— That statement, then, ii not the truth? A,—l
think it le inaccurate. • .
yotr direst tsadaacy wsilfiMeinMvpoa
that mbjecl ? A.—lf it contravene* whit I lUte now
It need* correction,
Tho Court bore adjourned.
The following train accident* occurred on Chicago
roada during the month of March !
On the evening of the 4th there wa* a butting col*
Jialon ItlwoMi two switching engines on the Chicago,
llock lilatid h Pacific track in Chicago, by which both
were badly damaged.
Ou tho morning of Hie nth, an east-bound freight
train on the I’m*.burg, Fort Wayne k Chicago struck a
broken rail near Larwlll, lud., ami six cars were
thrown from tho track and badly broken, blockading
the roods for several hours.
Ou the morning of the nth, near Montrore, la., on
the Chicago, Burlington k Qntncy, a tire broke under
the engine of s pa«neng-r train, and the nieces broke
the cunoeellng rod, aim damaged the engine badly.
On the lath, ou tho Illinois Crntial, near Dotigoln,
111., there was a butting cud.slon Mwcuu two freight
tniin, by which Iwth engines were wrecked, a fireman
killed, and an engineer Indly hurt. The arrideut was
caused by a mbundenlanding cf b I. graphic orders.
On thu morning of tho 18m, a at- ca-tralu ou tbo
Chicago k Northwestern Road r.ui 01T the track nenr
Turner Junction, 111., ■wrecking neural earn and
killing a Ini of cattle. The accident waarauiedby a
broken rail.
On the afternoon of thoWtb, on the Chicago, Mil
waukee A HI. Paul Road at Prairie du Uhkn, \Vl*„ a
switching cuginu exploded It* boiler, badly injuring
tho fliouun.
Ou tbo :.oth a freight train on tho Air Lino Division
of Urn Mlcldg.n Central was thrown from the track
near Burner, Mich., wrecking several can, and killing
forty cattle.
Too total number of accidents on all tho roads m
tho country during the mouth of March was 12.*,
whereby seventeen persona wero killed, and seventy,
tbr.c injured, Twvlvu accidents caused tho death of
one or more persons, twenty-six others Injury but not
death, and Rl, or il.vi.er tent oftlio whole, are recorded
a* causing no serious injury to any pcnoii. The umn
l«rri>f atvSJcnta 1® large, though it falls
the frightful rccorJof February, and was exceeded in
At a mectiug of thu l'iiagbkee]4lo Drldgu Company,
held at New York, the work ot reorganization, in order
to relieve tho bridge from tba control of the Pcneyl
vatila Uallroad Company, won favorably reported a«
Laving piogrcvicd. The redguatloua of tbu Treasurer
anti Secretary were accepted, and new men elected iu
their places. A new Director was also choxeu. It was
determined to uj>cn bouka uf Hubicripttau to the
capital stock nf tho Cumpßuy at lljston, Hanford,
Providence, and other cities, on aounus tho compleiu
chatigils effected, which will probablv take place at
an aajournoJ mectlog to bo bold iu Doughkeepßie,
Tho Traffic Department of tho Illinois Central Bail,
road report* oarulugs fur March ai follows:
1815. 1871.
.1118,891.00 sll M-jO.CJ
. i:i;.3;7.15 ÜB,C9iI.U
Is Illinois, 707 miles,
Is iuwa, 4u3 miles..,
Total, 1,103 miles «o;O,IKMf. $501,793.77
This la an Increase of cent la thelliinoU
ourniugs, of 10',' jier cent iu tho lowa earnings, and
4'j ix-rccut iu the lutul earnings.
The lamd Department repcris for March Bales of
2,7T.'..i.» ucrei for $30,773.15, aud cash collectlous of
The Chicago, Rock liUud k Pacific Railroad la mak
ing surveys fur an cxtciihlou of thu Sigourney Branch
from Sigourney westward to Oskaloo&a and beyoud.
Several tinea will bo run.
The officials of tho Baltlmora A Ohio Railroad‘in
thin city stale that there l:i nut the Irbhl foundation for
the report that they intend to retain the Dzposition
Building after tlio cipinliun of their lease June 1.
The building wlil be promptly vacated on the day
earned lu the contract.
IHtptllel, tit Tkt Vkifivj’t Tnt.unf.
Dr.motr, Mkh., April 19.—Tho financial troubles of
tlie Detroit k Milwaukee Hallway uulmiuatt.nl lu a gen
eral *trll« of their employes to-day, owing to tho fait
that (lie Company bad not paid tbcm auy wages fur
February and March and up lo date for April. The
roetut appointment of C, C. Trowbridge as Provisional
Deceiver of (be road tcude<l to give lh« tnca axHurunira
that they would bo properly cared for, yet u Urgo
number became uneasy, evidently fearing that tho
movement for ft Deceiver was a loyal dodge
to cut them off entirely. This Impression con
tinued to grow, and, It being next to lin.
passible to explain tho various phases cf every
question raised, the discontent became general. A
number of private meeting* wero held ftll aluii? the
Hue, but, up to to-day, no concerted movement was
made. This morning the following circular waa
distributed among the employe*:
Drtboit, April 17, 1875.—An order of the Court
directs tho Deceiver to pay current wages sud other
running exjicDec* out of tho receipts of the mouth,
and, if tmysurphis remains to appropriate the ssmo
to the payment of arrears of wagon. Under this order
the Deceiver will |>ay bh soon after the let of
May as the rolls can be made the wages for
the last half of April, end os rapidly an pdsslblo will
pay the arruuni for February, March, and tho first half
of April, (Signed) C. C. TnowuniDoK. Deceiver.
A largo number of the nun were unable to divine
the intentions of tho Deceiver, and tbov forthwith re
solved upon a general strike, on tho ground that (he
result of tho action timed in the circular would bo to
deprive them of uuy chince cf getting their back due*.
A committee waited upuu Mr. Trowbridge ond naked
him for payment on their baric dues first;
meanwhile work in yard* and on trains
is being generally suspended. Mr. Trowbridge
said that, under the order uf the Court, he must pay
current wage* before am-aragos, but would do all bu
could. Thu strikers then toox legal advice, and, this
afternoon, on a conference Mwi-eu Mr, Trowbridge
and the employes* committee, it wua «gr<*d trial an
effort should bo made lo hc;»re a modification of tbs
order of tne Court so ns to allow the Deceiver to apply
ail the revenue* of the road to (ho payment of tho
men. During tho day all work save the running of
passenger trains has been suspended along tho line.
Dr/rnorr, April ID.— I The men employed by the Do*
trolt & Milwaukee lUUrojil this morning demanded
payment of tho Receiver for wages duo for February
and March and to dale this mouth. The Receiver in*
formed them that tho orders of tho Court were that
current wage* uud capers.!* t-c first paid, the arrears
of wages to corneas souq as possible. This was not
satisfactory, and tho men struck all along thu Hue, and
business on thu Detroit & Milwaukee lload id virtually
suspended to-«Uy*
Arrangement. were made (his aftemnon under a
Rioilitleaslou of (be order of the Court for tha payment
of the men to April, and, this being all tho men de*
nunde.t, they voted to go to work as usual to-morrow.
Doth employers and employe* were delighted at this
rwilt, ami good frullug prevails on all bauds. Tbo
April wages will bo paid aa soon as potilble after tho
pioulb is up.
Ox an a , April It'.— Tho Union Ductile Company aro
feeding emlgruula at this place. They cent two
car-loads of provisions Woat yesterday fur those at
Cheyenne, Laramie, and beyond. Them aro 4,UO'J
West-hound passengers hero and west to tho break
waiting to go through. A dispatch received at 1) p. id.
from tsupt. Kboukbend, at Rock Springs, says j “ The
water has fallen U feet hero to-day, and Is still falling
Iflt does not come up again I can have all tbo trick
bctmi-u Laramlo and the Green Itlvcr so that trains
cun gel over It the last oi tho present week. I expect
to gel Inins into Laramie to-morrow, When we do
vs will transfer passengers from there to tbsUreeu
Iliver by teams,"
Kew York, April 19.—The troubKm of the Northern
raclfio Railroad Company have culminated In tho ai*
liohitniout, au a Receiver, rf the PreddiMt of (he Com*
lumy, who will take Immediate control of nil ilio prop
erty. Tho condition of the financial affairs of the
Company baa not Improved with time, and tbu clforfa
of those who were trying to build tho road were ham
pered, It la Mid, by creditors. It Is understood that
uu material chaim* wiß take place In tho sy.iUm of
operating that jwrtlon of tho road already constructed,
or la the working forco now employed. No construc
tion will bo undertaken mull the Company is placed on
such a chut money can bo borrowed lor that pur
Ff.MUI lUti'uleh to Tht CKieajo IWUni.
Br, Paul, April 19.—Tho decree of the United
Slates Court of tbu Southern Patriot of Now York at»
pointing Gen. Cau Receiver cf the Northern Pacific
llallruad was the result of an amicable arrangement
between the representative bondholders and stock
holders, ____
fiptelal Jilttfiltft to Th* Ckleajti J'ritun*,
LsAVbMwußTii, Kau., April 19.—United States Col
lector Anthony to-day seised (be Central Branch of (he
Union Pad Do italiroad for ila failure to pay ft per cent
on th* Government bonds. Tho amount duals about
JloMiaouimy, Ala,, April It*.— At the sale under
the chancery docreu of the Western lUilroad of Ala
bama, W, SI. Wadley, President of tho Georgia Central
Italiroad, and J. H. Davies, Vlco-lTeeldent of the
Georgia Railroad, became purchaser* for Uulr road*
jointly. Tho sum bid was f 1,1.11,900.
Fjtislal DUi-al'h Ut Th* ('A/niy* IrilKM.
KANwwOirr, April If.— Kewa from tbo frontier to
Tory exciting #« to tlie Indian otunigca, Four aolllera
were eurrounded near Owned*, lL*u., bet week, by %
Laud of Judbue, end tbo flgbl luted for eeversl
buure. A number of wvagee were killed before they
were ropuleed. Qco, Pope l« active la pieperetloue
for Ue approaching trouble*.
Special JHipatih I* Th* Chi Meei,
Sm tUouuw, April W.— I The Common OouncD, at
•meeting thitetenlaji toad* Um following appolnt-
meets: City Clerk, H. B. Sawctk; city Attorney, T-
E. Torroey; Police Comralaalouer, A. 0, Ancleraon;
City lliviloDn, B. D. Iloea { City Surveyor, P. T. Ilor
l*«rt t Wood Inspector, Peter MeEachera 5 H«ilth Offi
cer. Frank AUxabaclier; Sjwer CfimmUiionor. Jullud
P. Maaon.
Afire lotto largoUuchof two-aloryframe build
ings on Weal Lake street. between Leavitt and Oakley,
ot 8:50 o’clock hut evening, gave promise, at the out
break, of Ulng a disastrous conflagration, and AcaDt
ant-t Ire-Mkrannt Petrio enured a second alarm to bo
turned In from Pox 821. Hut the flames were entxlurd
before the extra form of firemen reached the Arc.
Tuojlames were first discovered in the atom of W.
Tree, No, 9.i7, ami probably emanated from a stove In
tbo eccond ctory, and rapidly roinmtmlcMrd lolho
roof over the adjoining stores. The building la own-d
by Osgood A Itobiasmi, whoso lo»s amrmntid 10 JO'.l.’,
and Is fully covered by Insurance. Frcu’itlmn wm
about $;uo; no Insurance, J. H. Frenchoccupt dN*.*,
!Wst loin. $350 ; insurance, j »<xi, No. 9JD wan tniy
Hligotly damaged,
Tho alarm from Box nil at 10:17 o’clock last night
was oerusioned brtho discovery of fire In tho two
story frame house No. 17 Mouth Jolferaou she*:,
owned by .lames Peacock, and occupied by Mrs. I.)on
an a boarding bouse. The lo*h nmn<mtti-l to sl,njo; no
itisurai.ee, Tho canaeof tho Ureli attributed to In
Eptekil Dltpaleh to V l« Chirnpo TrUune,
Em flaouu w, Mich., April 19.—The i-scoud Ward
Itausa at Bay City, a ban cart, and 3,C00 feet of bom
and a valuable horse were burned this morning. Loss,
$4,400; Insurance, fUW.
>kw Yon«, April It*.—A tiro to-night In tho furni
ture rn»nu/u;U.ry of B. Wcldeek, 9d to DC Clinton
street, caused u i»-« of ?!4.%0,D ; imuiauce, S<j,UOJ, ~
That great educator, profound thinker, ami
•vigorous wntor, llorbot Spencer, has wisclv Haiti s
•* As vigorous healtli and its BCcompanvUig
Bpiiita are larger clctuoutH of hajditfieas than
any other things whatever, the teaching how to
maintain thorn, in a tcaciting that yields to 110
other whatever.” Title I** unuml sentiment, nml
one great want of the present nge in tbo popular
izatnm of phymologicai, hygienic, nml medical
science. No nubjcct it more practical,— notm
cornea nearer homo to every man and vmutiu than
lliie, “The Pcopta’n Common Sumo Statical
Advtucr, Jn Plain Knglirh. or 3lcditv;o limpii
liod," by 11. V. Pierce, M. ]J„ m a hook wcil cal
culated lOßUpply a manifest wnnr. ami wilipvovn
eulnontly ueoful to tho raiu'scr. It coutrirm
about flhO pages, is illustrated v.ithabuiii LOU
wocd-cuts and lino colored plaice, i« pri:.t.:d
upon good paper, and well i.o.md. ItUncom
iiioto compendium of anatomical, pbyMologmul.
ivpnrnlc. and medical science, nml cmboli.'ii
the latent dthCovciifH and improvcmeuto hi each
dopauuicnt. It has been the author’s aim 10
male the wotk instructive to thu ma.-aoi-, unJ
hence the uso of IpcUiillml terms jt.h been, as
far as pocßiblo. avoided, At.d every btibjccc
bronchi within tho cay i.'cmproiioiiKiou of nil.
An elevated moral tone pervades the entire bed;.
While it Ireoly discuses, in a scicnt'tlc uunnor.
tbo origin, reproduction, and development of
man, it does not cater to depraved lustes. «di
verted patssions, or idle curiosity, but treats in u
chauto and thorough manner, nil (huso delicate
physiological Biibjects. a proper knoulodgoof
which acquaints us with the moans for preserv
ing health, and furnishes Incentives to a liighor
mid nobler life. Tbo anther, who is also tho
publisher of hi« work, anticipating n very large
&&lo for it, haa iasued 20.000 copies tor the lirst
edition, and Ik thus enabled to oiler it (pent
paid) at $1.60 per copy,—a prioo less than tho
actual cost of uo largo a book, if published 111
only orditmry-einod editions. Thu largo number
of -übHcnhoia received for it in advance of itw
publication, haa very nearly exhausted tho first
edition almost as Boon aa out. aad those desir
ing a copy of it will do well to addictm tho
1 author, at JlnfTalo, N. Y.. without dclav.
I>r. SchcneU’s Standard Kemoiih'
Tho standard remedies for all diseases of the lunv* •
Schor.rk's I’ulmonle Syrup, lichcuebV Kca Weed Tome,
and Kchesck’t Mandrake Fills and, IF taken before ten
lungs arc destroyed, a speedy cute I* effected.
To those three medicines Dr. .1.11. Kcbcuck, of Phila
delphia, owes his uarirallod success la tho treatment of
pulmonary diseases.
TboPulraonlo Syrup ripen* the morbid rcelierln tho
lanes; nature throw* It off by nu cary uvucoiorati'in. f |,: ’
when the phloem or matter is ripe a idl,:li( cough will
throw it off, tho patiuut hoa test, and the luce* begin to
To enablo the Fulmonlo Syrup to do this Schem-L'i
Mandrake Fill* and hcheock'* Soa Weed T.mle must bs
(rr *ly u»o lto clcaufj tho st/nnach and Uxor, tlch-jnck**
Mandrake Fills act oa the liver, removing all obstruc
tions relax tho call bladder, tho bile start! freely, and
the liver I* soon relieved.
Hchcoek'a Soa Weed Tonlo la a (puttie alimnlnnt and
alterative; the alkali of which It H «juip«no<i tuixo* with
the foihl and prevents sourlnj. It a«<bl« tho dljrovtlanLv
toning up tho stomach to a bea|U*y condition, ro that th*
food and the Pulasnnla Syrup trill make Rood hlcod: thru
the lung* boal, and the patient trill cure!/ cat well If can*
U taken In prevent ftoib cold.
AH who wish to coniult Dr. drhenck, either pcrtonallr
or hy loiter, can dn »o at his principal office, corner of
Sixth and Arch-ita., Philadelphia. ovory Monday.
Scheock'e medicines ore sold by all draggle!* through I
out thu country.
FBI 241 M lißl
124 State-st.
Bices ii in
M'o i cr?ioE3.
Notice Is hereby siren that the copartnership bnrsto
lot'. eiljllaa bulno-jn J. U. Ittooks and W, L). iicruu
1, tt>|» <!nr imaulml by mutual i-ousani.
Tliu iiDsot 'le'] l.iithiu is of aatd Una will bo closed up by
.1. (J. UfwuksA Co., lucctaaurs to said unit of Crooks *
Hervu. d. (h HKOOKdaud
Ciucaoo, April 9, 1370.
“ft Bailors Bmrts."
An authentic sketch (with portrait) of thin |ut-mtln«
family, which may i«t eu.i privuco it. Ituipcror. will
bo found la Ht'KIUNKIt lor .11AV.
Office of tub Juic shore .t Minnaix /
bOUtIURS lUILWAt *.' ORJ > *Sr, r
„ . Ulevelaku, 0,. April I* i»M. , „)
Tti#*non»nuooilutf i>< mv aiiH-lfuoldoiv of this Cora*
pony, lor tku clootlju of Uirocunc fur llm earning year,
tad lonbotraniacilua of other BjiproiuiaU builavULwUl
bo livid at tbauihco u( tbo Couiran/. lu tttof.liyof Clero*
Uad, Ohio, on Wodovoday. (bo Mb day of JUay nail, bo
twvva Ibo hour* of 11 o'clock lu lh» lorvoooo and |
o'clock lu tb* alivmiM'u of tiiat day.
N. DaUU.KH. boorvUry
& 49 West Lake Bt.

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