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properly made there, and that the will of the
people thus expressed, should be the policy of the Administrfttion. A motion to adjourn till Ö o'clock ou Fri day morning was lost. Hudson, of Indiana, moved to suspend the rules, take up the tariff resolutions and act on them finally. The convention was thrown into partial confusion by a vehement discussion of the question of proceeding to present candidates. When the confusion suicided, the motion to suspend the rules and admit the consideration of the tariff question was submitted, and on a vote by States, it was adopted; 460 to 229— two votes more than was required for a two thirds majority. The Chair announced that a tariff resolu tion had been adopted by the committee on resolutions, and he suggested the propriety of delaying further action until the committee feporied. This question brought to his feet the Hon. Cassius M. Clay, who made a florid appeal for harmony, and denounced the introduction of the tariff question as an apple of discord. He was followed by Hon. Stanley Matthews, of Ohio, one of the first movers in the Liberal Reform schism, who remonstrated against the introduction of subjects which had been referred to a committee for careful treatment, and which he understood that the committee were ready to report upon unanimously. Nevertheless, he would say that he was for a revenue reform, and that it had been chiefly for that purpose, that he had helped organize the liberal movement. His remarks elicited boisterous applause from his party. Judge Matthews was followed by Edward Atkinson, of Boston, in a few temperate re marks, which resulted in tabling the resolution, and the convention then adjourned until t& morrow at 10 o'clock. From information received from a member of the committee on resolutions, it is con cluded that Ute tariff resolution agreed upon by the Committee contains the spirit of the Missouri plank, though it avoids what seemed most objectionable to the protectionists. The overwhelming vote of tiic con vention in suspending the rules, indicates unmistakably that the sentiment of the ma jority is in favor of the Greeley platform. It is now believed, and, indeed, one of the most pronounced free traders on the committee says, that in the morning the resolution will be so modified as to meet the views of the majority of the convention as expressed to night. This vote, it is claimed, shows the strength of Greeley in the convention, the South voting solid for it, Ncw r England and New York nearly so, and Ohio, Incuana and Illinois about equally divided. Cincinnati, May 3.—The convention was called to order at ten minutes after ten o'clock. The reading of the journal was dispensed with. The Chair stated that the report in the morning papers pretending to give a dis patch from him, Schurz, to a candidate, was utterly untrue. Gilmore of Missouri, ottered a resolution that when the convention reached the point of balloting tor candidates there should be no formal presentation of the candidates, but that the convention proceed to vote. Dexter, of Illinois, sustained tbu résolu lion, snd wanted to proceed to business and avoid mere* personal eulogies. The resolu tion was carried. Horace White, from the Platform Com mittee, reported resolutions, which were unanimously adopted. The resolutions de clare equality tor ail men before the law, the union States, and no re-opening of the questions settled by the 13th, 14th and 15th ameuiimants, removal of disabilities in the rebellion, general amnesty, local self government. supremacy of civil over military authority, respect of the habeas corpus, re turn to methods of peace, maintain .Consti tutional limitations of power, civil service reform, single term for the Presidency, a sys tem ot Federal taxation which shall not un necessarily interfere with the industry of the people, and as there are honest, irrecoocil* able differences ot opinion as to the merits respectively ot the system of protection of free trade, and the question to be remitted to the people in the Congressional Districts, [wild cheering] the decision of Congress thrown wholly lree ot Executive interfer ence or dictation, the maintenance oi the public credit against repudiation in every torm, a speedy return to specie payments, the recognition ot the services and sacrifices ot soldiers and sailors, against a further grant of lands to railroads or other corpora tions, in foreign relations it is the duty ot the Government to cultivate friendship, de manding nothing not right and submitting to nothing wrong. [A voice—three cheers for the second Declaration of Independence. Great cries of question, overwhelming the few who tried to get the floor to speak.] The Chair then put the questions, which were adoptad with loud and continued cheer ing. Thu Chair then announced the vote unanimous. The next order of business was stated by the Chair to be the nomination of candi dates for the Presidency, without a formal presentation ot the candidates. First ballot—Adams, 203; Trumbull, 108; Davis, 924; Greeley, 147; Brown, 98. Curtin, 62; Chase, 24; Sumner, 1. Before the vote was announced, Qratz Brown, by ubanimous consent, took the stand. He thanked his friends for their sup port, but said he would withdraw Lis name and ask his friends to support Mr. Greeley [Cheers, with many persistent hisses.] A Dumber of delegates then changed their votes and the Chair announced the result ot the ballot to be, Adams, 203; Trumbull, 110 ; Davis 92J ; Greeley, 147 ; Brown, 95; Curtin, 62 ; Chase 24 Vice President Julien took the Chair. A resolution giving votes to the Territo ries, was tabled. McClure withdrew the name of Curtin and asked leave tor the Pennsylvania delegation to retire. Granted. The Missouri delegation retired 1 or con sultation. At the close of the second ballot the vote stood, tor Greeley, 239 ; Adams, 243 ; Trum bull, 148 ; Davis, 81 ; Brown, 2 ; Chase, 1 ; California changed her 6 for Davis to Gree ley, which left Greeley 245 and Davis 75. The whole number of votes cast was 714 ; necessary to choice, 358. Third Ballot—Greeley, 258 ; Adams, 204 ; Trumbull, 156; Davis, 44 ; Brown, 2. Fourth Ballot—Adams, 279 ; Greeley, 251' ; Trumbull, 41 ; Davis, 41. Fifth Ballot—Adams, 809 ; Greeley, 268 ; Trumbull, 94; Davis, 30; Chase, 24; Brown,2. Sixth Ballot—Greeley nominated for Pres« ident. Adams gained 6 in Delaware, 4 in Indiana. 10 in Kansas, 10 in Pennsylvania, 1 in Missouri, 3 in Vermont, 5 in North Cars olina, 4 in Weat Virginia. Greeley gained 3 in Indiana, 4 in Louisiana, 2 in Missouri, 2 in North Carolina, 2 in Wisconsin, and .1 in Pennsylvania. South Carolina gave Chase 14, Virginia gave him 9, and Pennsylvania 1. Gratz Brown was nominated Vice Presi dent. Cincinnati, May 8.—'The Liberal Conven tion re-assembled this morning at 10 o'clock. The Committee on Resolutions submitted their report, which was adopted amid loud and continued cheering. The address of the Com mittee on Resolutions to the people, is sub stantially as follows : The present AdministrBtion has been guilty of wanton disregard of the laws; and has acted as if the laws had no binding force for those who govern. The President, lias used his powert and opportunities for personal ends, and kept unworthy and corrupt men in ofiice; lias interfered with the local affaire of States and municipalities; lias awarded with high offices men who acquired his favor by valu able presents; has shown himself un equal to the tasks imposed upon him, and culpably careless of the responsibilities of his office. Partizans of the administration, who assume to be the Republican party, have at tempted to justify these wrongs, and have stood in the way of necessary reforms, and have resorted to' arbitrary measures in con flict with law, and have degraded themselves and the party by base sycophancy ; to dispense executive patronage, they nre striving to main tain themselves in power by the unscrupulous use of power. Believing that an organization thus controlled can no longer be of service to the best interests of the Republic, we have resolved to make an appeal to the sober judg ment and conscious patriotism of the American people. The Chair stated that the next business in order was the nomination of a candidate for the Presidency, without a formal presenta tion. The roll by States was called, and the result of the fifth ballot was received with great cheering by the friends of Adams. The sixth ballot was ordered amid great confusion. Greeley gained 6 in Georgia and 9 in Indiana. The announenient was receiv ed with cheers on one side and hisses on the other. The Illinois delegation withdrew for consultation, and when they returned, an nounced 27 for Adams, 14 for Greeley. . Mc Clure changed Pennsylvania to 50 for Greelev, Indiana changed to 27 for Adams, and Illi nois changed to Greeley. A stampede of changes now occurred, but the noise and con fusion made it impossible to hear them. The Chair finally announced the whole vote 714, necessary to a choice 358; Greeley 482, Adams 187, the balance scattering. On the final vote, California, Oregon and Nevada cast their entire vote for Greeley, Greeley's original strength w r as confined chiefly to the Southern States and New York. The South adhered to him throughout almost unanimously. The convention then proceeded to nominate a candidate for Vice-President. Gratz Brown, Trumbull, Cox, Cassius M. Clay, Julian, Tipton and others were named. Trumbull, Cox and Clay withdrew, and Governor Brown was nominated on the 2d ballot, receiving 425 votes. Committees were appointed to inform the candidates of their nomination, and the cus tomary resolutions of thanks were passed, after which the convention adjourned sine die. After the adjournment, Schurz and Julian were called out and made brief speeches. Cincinnati, May 3.—The Liberal Conven tion is clearly a failure. Many of the influ ential delegates denounce the result bitterly, as a fradulent selling out of the principles on which the convention was called. The pro tectionists laugh at the platform, and th S' free tradors deride both the platform and candi dates. Schurz made a bitter speech in the Missouri delegation after the adjournment against the bargain between Greeley and Gratz Brown, for the nominations were well understood would be the result of the combi nation between their friends, consummated last night, with the aid of Frank Blair. A majority of the Ohio delegation say openly that they will support Grant" unless the Dem ocrats nominate Adams or a similar peace man on an honest platform. This sentiment is wide spread in the west The purpose of the bargain, it is said, was to save the Penn sylvania iron tariff and advance the political fortunes of Greeley and Brown siiqply. The cause of revenue reform is considered slaught ered, and the chief principles of the Missouri platform sacrificed. The Reunion and Reform Convention met this afternoon and adopted resolutions simi lar to the Liberal platform. The news of the nomination of Greeley was very unfavorably received by the Convention. Judge Stallo expressed profound disap pointment. He said he was satisfied that the Liberal party lacked honesty and courage. Mr. Kittridge hoped the convention would utterly repudiate fhe action of the conven tion. Denger, of Missouri, bitterly declared that Greeley was nominated by corrupt politicians. A resolution instructing the Executive Com mittee to call a National Convention was passed. Adjourned sine die. New Y t ork, May 3. —On the reception of the news of Greelev's nomination large crowds gathered at the Tribune office, and Greeley was called out, but he declined to speak. A salute of one hundred guns were fired in the City Hall park in his honor. 'the Exprès» says "old white hat" will take a large portion of the Republican party with him, and that the Democrats will endorse the nomination. The Commercial Advertiser says the pros pects of the Republican party have bright ened, and whether the Democrats endorse Greeley or not, he is doomed to defeat. The Evening Post heads the news—"Grand Failure !" " Reform Surrenders to Monopoly and Centralization!" The World expresses profound surprise at the result of the Cincinnati Convention, and says that it cannot endorse and no one has reason to believe the Democrats will support it. However, it will reserve its judgment until the meeting of the Democratic National Convention. The Sun , of to-morrow, says: There never was such an honor paid to the newspaper press m the nomination of the two at Cincin nati. It believes the Liberal Republicans and Southern Democrats will all support Greeley, and that fact w ill exert a powerful influence on Northern Democrats. The Tribune, of to-morrow, says: We make no comments on the ticket presented yesterday at Cincinnati. The people without distinction of party are considering it, and will in due time Indicate their judgment there on. The article then proceeds to speak of the tariff plank in the platform, expressing a belief that it will he satisfactory to all parties, and is the most sensible disposition of this vexed question. The Times speaks of the nomination as a a sad farce, but says : It should produce one good result—it should lead the present leaders of the Republican party to consider the re sponsibility lo the people; to thfc steady de mands of the hour: and to make their pro ceedings at Philadelphia worthy of the pre sent crisis. It says that Grant and Colfax are infinitely superior to Greeley and Brown. But, it says, it is for the Republican party to decide what measures it shall attempt to carry out. We earnestly trust that the wisestminds in the party will be applied to a settlement of measures which shall be at once just and liberal towards all classes and all sections of the Union which shall he worthy of the pro gressive spirit and temper of the age, and which shall be calculated to increase the honor and renown of the country, and pro mote the happiness and prosperity of its people. _ Greeley expressed surprise at his nomina tion, and said he would accept in a letter. The nomination elicits various opinions. Some declare that the Convention was a fizzle. Others claim that Greeley has a strong hold on the masses, and that his views on general amnesty will give him great strength in the South. The Liberal Committee will serenade him to-night, and next week a ratification meeting will be held. Washington, May 8.—Intense interest pre vailed during the day in reference to the events at Cincinnati. Telegrams announcing the nomination of a candidate for President were received with surprise, as previous pri vate telegrams foreshadowed a different re sult. The Republicans not iu sympathy with the convention, express themselves às not alarmed at tiie selection ; while the Demo crats say their National Convention will define the policy of the Democratic party. SPRiNGPiETiD, Mass., May 3.—The Repub lican, ot to-morrow, will sky: The Cincin nati Convention rested content in doing well when the country and hour demanded that it should do the best It calls attention of the opponents to the movement to Greeley's great popularity, and warns those who think he is easy to beat, that they may discover a mistake. Indianapolis, May 3.—The nomination of Greeley and Brown gives general satisfaction to the Conservatives and Liberal Republicans. The Journal (administration) thinks it is the weakest that could have beep made. Philadelphia, Mav 3.—The Age, of to morrow, in an editorial, favors the nomina tion of a Democratic candidate for President, and expresses the belief that Chief Justice Thompson is one in whom the Democrats would support with enthusiasm. Washing-ton, May 2.—SENATE—Sumner presented an endorsed remonstrance from Wendell Phillips, and other citizens of Mas sachusetts, against the repeal of the eight hour law. Stewart introduced a bill to provide for the creation and regulation of railroad com panies in the .Territories. A resolution permitting American diplo matic consular officials to accept a testimonial from the Emperor of Germany, was discussed and o] iposed bj Sumner, Casserly and Sprague and then laid over. The post office appropriation bill was taken up. The question was on the pendin g amend ment increasing the payment for the China mail service to $1,000,000 a year. Windom, Cole and Stewart advocated the amendment. Without taking a vote the Senate went into executive session and soon after adjourned. HOUSE—The bill for the distribution of 1,000 breach-loading rifles and 200,000 car tridges to the settlers in exposed localities in Montana passed. The bill for the organization of the Terri tory of Oklahama, was postponed until next December. Tiie bill for the removal of the Indians in Bitter Root Valley, Montana, to the regular reservation in Montana passed. The House went into Committee of the Whole on the tariff bill, the discussion lasting until 4:30, when a recess was taken until 7:30. The evening session will be devoted to de flate on the tariff. MONTANA MATTEBM IN CONGRESS. In the House, yesterday, the hill for the distribution of 1,000 breecli-loading rifles and 200,000 cartridges to the settlers in exposed localities of this Territory,, passed. Also, the bill for the removal of tiie Indians in Bitter Root valley, (this Territory,) to the reserva tion established for them. List of Papers, Periodicals, Magazines, Etc FOR SALE BY JOHN T. WARD, POST OFFICE STOKE, HELENA, M. T. Appleton's Journal Days' Doings. Sporting Times. Boston Pilot. Every Saturday. Leslie's Chimney Corner. " Illust. Newspaper. " " German • " German Zeitung. " Boys and Girls. Harper's Bazaar. " Weekly. Illustrated Police News. *• " Gazette. Irish American. New York Tribune. " " World. " " Times. " " Sun. " " Democrat. " " Herald. Fireside Companion. 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They are no longer willing to open their mouths, shut their eyes, and take whatever the doctors are pleased to prescribe without injury. They want to know the nature of the medicines they are required to swallow, and demand to have the misterious Latin lingo of the profession translated into plain English. The invalid world understand at last that vigor is the great antagonist of disease. The feeble decline to be utterly prostrated by depleting pills and potions, and turning from such meadlcaments with loathing, judi ciously place their trust In a remedy which combines with the properties of an alterative those of a pure and wholesome tonic and Restorative. It is now about twelve year» since this grand desideratum wus intro duced under the name of PLANTATION BITTERS, and from that time to the present its progress lias been without a parallel iu the history, of proprietary medicines. 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It becomes a matter of importance then to secure the best The moritsof thoMEXICAN MUSTANG LINIMENT are well known throughout tiie habitable world. From the millon upon mllion of bottles sold, no complaint has ever reached ns. It is recommended for Cuts, Bruises, Sprains, Rheumatism, Swellings, Bites, Chil blains, &c,., upon man, and for Spavins, Founders, Ring-bone, Poll Evil, Scratches, Wind Galls, Iloofale, «fcc., upon horses Important to Owners of liantes. "This is to certify, that the Mexican Mustang Lini ment has been extensively used in our stables through out the country (we have 2,600 horses) with the greatest benefit in all cases of galls, kicks, sprains, lameness, stiffness, Ac. Many of our men have had occasion to use it in their families, and all speak of it in the highest terms. One of our men got kicked and badly cut and braised ; as usual the Mustang Uniment was resorted to ; the lameness was removed and he was al most well in four days. We can cheerfully recom mend it as a valuable preparation for man or beast. Yours respectfully, J. DUNNING. Foreman of Adams & Co's Express Stables, N. Y. We take great pleasure In recommending the Mexican Mustang Liniment as an Indispensable and valuable article, and the best we have ever used for Sprains, Sores or Galls on horses. Some of onr men have also used it for severe burns and sores, as well as rheumatic pains, and all say it acts like magic. J. E. HEWITT, Foreman, For American Express Co., 10 Wall street ; Harden's Express Co., 14 Broadway; Pullen, Virgil A Co., Ex press Co., 14 Wall street ; Wells, Fargo & Co., 14 Wail street. Over three hundred liverv stables in the citv of New York uloiie are using the MEXICAN MUSTANG LIN lit ENT, in all of which it gives unusual satisfaction. CAUTION. 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