The advocate and Topeka tribune. [volume], January 04, 1893, Image 2

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of the finance reports? It must be apparent that a caret uTii
booka and accounts of the treasury department from 1833 to 187v
been made by one man, or even a dozen men, in four months and a
tN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES.
STATEMENT RELATING TO DEBT, INTEREST, PRIJMTUMS, AND
Among the statements furnished to the committee was the follov
office of the secretary of the treasury: i
il 28, 1880. Ordered to be printed. December 17, 1880. Ordered to he reprinted.
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TiivTSL of Wfifit Viririnia. from the Select Committee to Investigate the Finance
Reports, Books and Accounts of the Treasury Department, submitted the f ol-
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TIME REQUIRED TO EXAMINE THE DEBT STATEMENT.
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'ajor Power testifies (see testimony, pages 72 and 73):
By the Chairman:
Q. Please state how long it would take to examine carefully the debt and
Unohara at. t.Vi nam a tima for a gincrla vear. sav take the year 18C6. so that you
jould tell whether or not there were errors in the details. How long would it take
Ind how many clerks to go through that year or any year you choose ? A. It would
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Wiiild mnt Via ftAtiafftctarv.
I Q. The question is, how long would it take, without regard to results? A. The
'axarnination of the debt for one year might necessitate an examination from the
mmmAnnAmnt of th loan ud to that Deriod and even afterwards. It would take
9nm Rita 1a1i nna wool" of laoet.
Q. To do what? A. To examine the debt particularly for one year, and for the
reason, as l say, tnat tne examination mignt neceieuate gumg uiwn w wm
mencement of each loan.
Q. Going Into the warrants and transactions of the government to show
whether or not there were errors in the accounts? A. To not go beyond the stated
accounts as stated and certified by the comptrollers, it would not be a task of much
difficulty. It would take four or five years.
Q. For how many clerks? A. With a corps of seven or eight clerks.
Thus it appears that an officer of the treasury who has served many years in
the register's office and in the office of the secretary is satisfied that " it would take
four or five clerks one year at least" to carefully examine the publio debt for a
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jlng for errors would take the same force four or five years. And yet it appears
(from the testimony of Mr. Bay ley that he alone, with no experience in the treasury
department, made an examination into all the transactions of the government from
1833 to in four and a half months.
Mr. Bayley testified (see testimony, pages no ana uiy.
By the Chairman :
X. Did you, in 1870, assist Mr. Saville, chief clerk of the treasury department,
Wlrinor n n. ravisorv statement of the accounts in the secretary's office? A.
'Jow long were you at it? A. About four months and a half.
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Did you do the entire work yourself ? A. I did; that is to say, I under
nn ora man1rinr now nf thA t.ahlft IB the secretary's reDOrt.
)The debt tables? A. No, not the debt tables, but the receipts and expendi-
yOn account of the publio debt? A. No, sir; the receipts and expenditures
government. Tables K and L, I think, in the secretar) 's report of 1870.
Of general receipts and expenditures? A. Yes, sir. It appeared there for
i time that year.
Who was engaged on the debt part of the statement connected with those
? F.Thihitinjy to th witness the reuort of 1870. with the tables K and L.1
-hose the tables? A. The whole of this and the whole of that indicating
,j K and L are my work from beginning to end.
i Q. Are these the receipts and expenditures on account of the public debt? A.
sir; to a certain extent .
Q. State, now, how long you were at it? A. About four months and a half in
tring that particular table. , ,
'X You did the whole work yourself ? A. Yes, sir; the actual manual labor,
1 Where did you get your data? A. From the printed receipts and expend!
n tar- oa -intjrt at t.hn.t time. Down. I think, to 18G6 thev were printed.
Where did vou set the other four years from? A. From the book in the
division.
vf the secretary's office? A. Yes, sir.
(shows that Mr. Bayley alone did all the work between August and No
1870 four or five months; that he commenced in 1789 with the receipts and
res, examined the accounts of the government from 1789 to 1870, and
la statement which caused small and large changes for nearly every year in
it3 and expenditures and from 1833 in the publio debt. If, as Major
stifles on page 73 of the testimony (and Dr. Guilford, of the register's
A page 24 and 25 of the testimony, substantially agrees with him), it would
'ir or five clerks a year to examine carefully as to the debt of one year, and
J iiva years to examine it between 18G0 ana 1870, how could Mr. Bayley, with
rience, who had just come into the department, have made in four or five
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he only Pure Cream of Tartar Powder. No Ammonia; No Alnm.
in Millions of Homes 40 Tears the Standard.
According to
1870 was $107,77'
It is a fact th
the several Pacifio
1870, which should
debt
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port of 18
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debt (bonds issued by the government to
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statement in tlx
ment increased j
cretary, as stated in finance re
furnished committee by secre-
117,740,000
$17678,320
decrease of the publio debt as above stated
ig fund is nearly ?7U,UUU,UUU. Tne reports
is 870,000,000 or how it is accounted for.
no register with the secretary's tabulated
it will be seen that the secretary's state-
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hat will bring better re-
he Advocate.