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rtnwlcy ,Tohn H. Iflghtf?bt, .11'., E?l.
Ci m ? '?? n it< r l?ardlng C, Wolkr, W. Cri,,.;..' Mr, OiBx?rl W?lker, w? r-,, ?.-, i \ ; n Tennsnt, Jntni ?? if? nrnk? !r ' ? ' r ?' le, W C. Pol?tes, ?? M ? C. C. Tnll.l h . SV. n. Band?, , ? ' , . | .!????? ti, R, T. Irvine, .t?; in P Tl - mu ?. Benntor c T. I lier, Attorii' v-(.!i.iii-i.il Anderson, John Plekrcll, ?T. BtetHlri Iiryan, j( ,i nrynn, a. P. Thom. At six o'clock Chalrmnii Itvnl nnnonnee.-i (hut then would be no nlghl session ami ,|.nt the com ? ' ? djoiirn ;-? moot ''/.?./.v;:::/;?-' S'A??,?..dudej i -, int! ti ill thi rcfcjro continue AS OF A SERPENT SAYS/VIA^. LANIER So Refers on Stand to Friendship of Upshur?Mr. Stuart on Stand. of tin- !? ??: - with the ln hl.I hot con : -: session, ; ; i n evidence a .- ? Crump to a .- . . . m, ??> which his pr 01 Monday night, ???,'-.. ?.: into a diseus that, on the same dny ? Ltlons in Ms official mpany wrote to the same -;.l t l-i 11 this work ? . . by Mr. Tyler, Ma? the loyalty and z-al of both Mr. Tyler and Mr. N?-.vi-v. say? ing that Mr. Tyler bad done more work I - -. i ?irr"ratli-in?= and 31 a thhn all ?-.-.? l ? ? ?????' the State Corpo together. Mr. Tyler . and returned with the names of ab ml n dozen cor nol paying tax to : . si .- ivi carbon copy of thoso ',!. That was all the ?? then -no offl . ? ... ,,.,r custom? son for giving these names 1 II was to have the Vin C C mpany rend lit ? ? .-?? to the? companl - u I that was all. These pompantes did not have to glvo Mr. Campbell the busln< Helpful to Company. Qucs. Do you consider that your posl c nmlsslon was helpful to Mr. I'.yrd then stated he had written t.? the commissioner about a telegraph eo rapan y and thai before he got an aii n letter from I ?? Virginia Corporation I did not write sucll a letter. I have m de a mctnorand im and : In and a ":-. it do you mean by a vast ? had Mr. Tyler to do with Ai He held no office and owned no Mr, Tyler had oharge of soliciting busi? ness. He hit upon a p'on of suggesting i-, various companies that they could re? duce taxation \iy reducing the amount of ; ? " capital stock. .Major Lanier then told why i!i?> com? pany had ?-nii-r?-il mis buslnei I, to hi !,-. ho said, Mr. Tyler, who had a large family and only a small : : Qucs. Tyler was then paldi for this Ans. Yes, but very little. <..'u?-s. You w? i?. then actuated by a desire to help Mr. Tyler only, and not to ln-lp your company'? Aus. I was actuated by mixed motives. I wanted to help Mr. Tyler and I also hoped that the business would lr.-.-, the company. Major then alluded to Mr. TJpshur's attitude towards him. Ho said: "Mr. Up. sbur's pretended friendship for m? was the a?t of a serpent." Mr. Byrd-A'? tl ? ;.. >l - m i ;?? b( or such IS; nun?'iatif<fis.'"'We are Hero for facts. Major Lanier?1 think tft?hpuld bar.- tho right to draw di . ,- tli as i rid B] u'latc tit l"iigth. Mr. Byrd -Yon can arg?e the case later. but we ;?:. :? - ; on t.. st ,:?? fabta now and irguc th. ' i.-. ? ?Major I.-,-i [will then cut ?ul spocu Intlons and i lit - -Mr. Byrd-Pleaso do Major I-?? . r I i'i .-itlr Jiad done all In ? ? ? Corporation ?. ?-. . public, lind tha? It was < ' :? ?!: That ho pov ? i keep the made was only after !:<? ?'-lt that his honor had >- en ? |-. .i thai ne made th mattei ttqr from himself to ? i for :i copy or that Judge ,:;U'1 '?' ' ' all (ho copies " - : 10 : had bee,, Ho then r? ?Mr. i'i>| hu "the c Crump had furnished to destroyed. Reputation Suffering By Mr. Byrd: b innttei Ci-ami If Judge pies hud n? lln;; in of it man ftBIFRMiys Sydney, Dec. 22. Brcenhood. i.'.M I'l.aii. Iixvi clias. L'o?apslttcs. Dial??;, i, lv.'.ol.i'iido. D I \W ,, llc.ijninln. TRANSLATION. illy id i r Qrlint'l Dim .,-.- ?-... ? i ? . . : ? -, up-pl Ibl? -? II ? ?v. i.-. You ilott'i ii.u?- i-i ? ...- i "Berry's for Clothes." That's rioht! Soak the old ni.in nnd we'll soak the old styles! Here's clothing that will slond the strenuous strain of boy life. It makes a hit ever-y time?built with the stimo cara ns our suits for men. S?.S3 for Suits up to $S.OO. $4.78 foi*" Suit.3 up to ?8.00. SG.7S for Suits up to $10.00 Overcoats and Reefers, same way. Men's Double-Breasted Win? ter Overcoats that were $18.00 and $20.00, now only $12.70. Don't suffer from tho cold. ?@___f__ ! ^TTen's ?\soYsji(/mf7t ?n the face; that he sa'.d I must have a copy of the charges. Jmlge Crump said that he expected something of this sort. ami that he and ?itlier members of the ci mmlsslon li.nl destroyed the copies of - charges. This I-- my recollection. Judge Crump ha? denied the statement, but I recollect the matter distinctly.; Qucs. ]ii.l y.ei make a demand for an Investigation of tho charges? Ans. I did. (Major Ixmler then went into a discus*? afTair.s at that time 3 Qucs. i asked it' you niade a ?lemural for mi Investigation. Ans. I did. I told Mr. _p*.hur that* if ? i. \. . talgos made against me, 3 wanted an investigation. He said "there arc plenty of charges and you will hear tlti-ni at the proper time." I then went to Judge Crump's house nnd discussed the matter with him for two hours. Ques! Did you discuss the affairs of the Virginia Corporation Company at this ?? ? ith Judgo Crump? Ans. I think so. I cannot say posi? tively. Ques. I asked you if you asked for an Investigation after the charges were filed. ' Ans. When I went Into th? room after the charges, were riled; th > said tiiat they were not Investigating any charges, but would simply talk the matter over. I bave ever since endeavored to have piled to the courts to assist me. Mr. Royall to Mr. Stuart. il. then read the following letter: Richmond. Va.. May 19, ' ? Hon. Henry C. Stuart. Acting Chairman State ?.'orporatlon Commission, Richmond, Virginia. Sir.?Mr. A. S. Lanier has never -:- n Which .Mr. Up (U( d i to i ho -? iralsBion, an<i fais knowledge "f their details is vei m his recollection th? dla ?t you end hi ..-??;.-? ? .- - . ? t of an Informal ???? :i you, he is apprehen? sive that, they may havo made some im? pression on ytjur mind unfavorable lo hllri In respect to mailers which he could make perfectly satisfactory to you. If he had an opportunity to explain tln-in fully. It is true thu commission does not stato In lta memorandum, (ailing for his resignation that it acted formally upon I'pshur's charges?in fact, he- was Inform? ed by the chairman that no attention was : to them .by the commission, and that bad no effect in tho matter, but It may very well be thai these charges made a lodgment m the minds of the com? missioners. Under all tlie circumstances of ibis ? Mr. Lanier most respectfully Insists ? the commission .shall, either recall m?nd for his resignation, or furnish t Im with a complete ropy of the charges ? . ? hava been made against him, and set - for a. formal public hearing upon 11. further asks that this request he considered In connection with and as a pari .it tit?: statement 1* Died with the commission on his behalf last Wednesday, May n, 1905, Respectfully, WM. L. UfiVALL. Counsel for A. S. Lanier, ring to th? assertion that Judge - .1 taken stock In the Virginia ' crpemtiot; . '.. npany.) Thai statement created consternation la the commission, Only Mr. Fairfax and Mr. Stuart wore there, ns Judge Crump wan away. Qucs, Whai do you it.'an by "consterna? tion"'.' Ana. I moan that I bclluve Uiut for tho first timo Mr. Fairfax and Mr. Stuart learned of Judge Crump's connection with tho Virginia '-?irporation Company, for Mr. Royail told them at tt.ul tinre. Private Conference Held. About tills time the matter begun to leak out. ;,:.ii a conference of some of the 'most prominent citizens of the State wa li?Jd .it the office of Messrs. Mini? fied, ?union, Williams und Anderson. I was not present, but Mr, Royal), my counsel, was. lie told -?.???? 'in: Jud_3 Keith, chief Justice of Virginia; Mr. Brax ton, Mr. lluiitnii, Mr. A. t?. Williams, and | thb commissioners, .\t that t!m<- 1 went. t?. sen Mr. A. B. I Williams, to whom Mr. Upshur had ul- | read'y gone, i have his permission to H-...! tho : fter** which subsequently - ' ed i . , us, I v.-n.'-.t t-, say that I ?hi! all In <?i..'r? wir!,! to settle this matter without publicity. , Major 'Lanier then read a lelt'-r sent -?m to Mr. A, B. William?, dated Mr. Alfred B. Williams, : Crump? Did No Wrong. ' ? - ? ? - - I ? ? ? . - ind , i -,. inkh . In i hi- vu -, . . did i ' ?! "" '" ,;': - '?' I.! '? !?. I. Ml' -HI ? ifj ? ? II ? 01 ? I. ? ll ? ? i . Itiliii Dill tain i gave the i oni] m Tit whole Hit? uutiuu wiw bimiiie tu i tu inception, und by the exercise or a lit11 o moral courage It could have' hern net)led without dlf Hciilly, wllh Otltlfe Justice to all parties in Interest, ami i charge that in? present magnitude mid ' dolldfloy have been Brought about ?.?ntllcly by (lio altitude nsBUmcd Inwards' tho questions nt Issuo by (he ? (iinnrisMlniinrs themselves. Tho matters Involved arc of slniple so luilon. und cnii be settled by the com* mission Itself, which It should do with? out the aid of outside parlies. It simply required that tin? commission hour the chief clerk and myself on tho questions i'i I88UC, and enter SUCli order an will do Juaneo to th?? Innocent and fix tho re? sponsibility wh!.vo it beiongB, with tho tipproprlate penally, I hnvo appealed to ) th?! commission to ??t> this. They have had my petition In their hands for nearly I two weeks, but have communicated to I nu? no conclusions upon nry request I have borne In silence the wrong nnd Injustice that han been done mo from u stn?ci'o desire lo avert any unhappy enn / sqtioncca to the State Corporation Com? mission Unit might result from the pub? licity Incident lo my seeking vindication nnet redress In tho courts. Hut I owe a duty to myself ns well as to tho com inlsslon, nnd If they refuse to do me the Justice I have nsked at their hands, or the matter is not settled by the method suggested by you ami Mr. Itraxton yes? terday, no other recourse Is left mo but to seek redress and .vindication In tho courts, and 1 solemnly warn tho commis? sion through you that the responsibility for any unfortunate consequences that may ensue from such notion on my part must rest lipifli them. Differ? nee between men can never be seitld nor l rut h discovered In secret con? ferences, or conference? from which the parties In Interest are excluded, ami only ex parte statements aro heard. Truth, manhood -.mil Justice require the light of dny. nnd can only bo vindicated when antagonists confront each other In the open with equal rights, and privileges of action. This I have sought from the be? ginning, and shall seek to the end. Desiring vindication only, nnd earnest? ly wishing to nvolil any Injury to the State Corporation ?onimlsslon, I ngreed with you that I would submit tho contro? versy to a "court of honor" (ns you term? ed It), to be composed of tho nrost emi? nent men In the State, the snino to be non-rcsldents of Richmond, unconnecfed In any way with party politics, or with the parties In Interest. That each side was to select a number of gentlemen of the character mentioned, and from the total number the court, consisting ?if three or five, was t<i be chosen. That tfcla. court was to hear fully and freely both aids, and that all parties In Inter? est, except the cotnmsslon as such, are to bind themselves to accept loyally and fin? ally the' Undings or judgment of this court. For various reasons not necessary to be stated hero we have concluded that the names suggested-yesterday by us ?tro of gentlemen who are not available, nnd wn therefore desire to withdraw thenr and suggest In place of them the follow? ing?viz.: Jod;;? Borrvmnn Green. Dan? ville, VaTf Trofessor XX'm. M. Dtle. Uni? versity of Virginia; Professor Charles A. Graves. University of Virginia. I earnestly request that you arrange with the ?tlV-r side at the enrllest prac UoaV?rt? moment, n?< tho matter has been pending a long time, with resultant in? jury to me. and communicate the results of your efforts to me or Mr. XX'. 7.. Roy?ll, my counsel, that we may nil get to g.-ther. s.-loct the members of the court arid arrange the terms and details of the hearing. His Choice. I beg i?) state here the gentlemen se? lected bj- me, whose name? I have al? ready given vou-vlz.: Colonel'Walter H. Taylor, Norfolk. Va.; Colonel Thomas H. Carter, University of Virginia': Judge St. George Fitshugh, Fredericksburg, Va.'; ' II-- George K. Anderson, Clifton Forge, Va.: Colonel Thomas Smith. Warrcnton, Va.; Professor William M. Ule, Univer? sity of Virginia; Professor Charles A. Graves, University of Virginia. I earnestly request that you arrange with the other side at th?-- earliest prac? ticable moment, and communicate the re sults of your efforts to me or Mr. W. L. all, ray counsel, that we may all g?it ther, sric-t the menrbers of the court a:-.?l arrange the terms and details Of the bearing. Very respectfully, (Signed, A: SYDNEY LANIER. Mr. A. It. Williams then addressed the following letter to Mr. Iloyall. counsel for Major Lanier: May 27, 1905. Mr. William L. P.ovall. Richmond. Va.: My Dear Mr. Royal!.?Doubtless, as Major lender's personal friend and legal representative, you know of the two cO' veraatlons he has had with me and of tho letter addressed by him to m<? and ? :? vered to me yesterday. Yesterday ion I met Mr. Eggleston by ap? pointment, he occupying the same rela? tions to Mr. Upshur that you do to Major Lanier. I gave him Major I.anler's letter to me, so that he and Mr. Upshur might have th<? opportunity to consider it care? fully, and urged on him that this distinct ession by Major linier was evidence Of an earnest purpose for peaceful adjust? ment oi th?. matter between them, and for the avoidance of tho disastrous conse? quences likely to result from public dis ? ii. I told him that in my view Mr. Upshur'g refusal to accept Major I.anler's proposition, which looks to me reasonable and fair, would throw the responsibility fo,- any unhappy cons?quences directly on Mr. Upshur. Mt. Eggleston left me apparently fully Impressed with the Im? portance of the question, and assuring . that he would impress my views on Mr. Upshur as strongly as possible. I have not heard from Mr. Eggleston or Mr. Upshur, but thinking over the matter last night an alternative plan suggest?-'! its??!f to me. As you will fee, I wrote out my Idea hastily." I enclose the result to you. It is Intended as a letter to be wrlt v.i and signed by the three members ?if the Corporation 'Comlnlsslon, addressed to Major |?inier In reply to his last letter lo them. Of course, this form Is not final, and I "'" ",?> wed?l?-d to It particu? larly, but It expresses my general notion ?if what might be done to adjust the whole affair ami be satisfactory to all Concern? ed. I have not shown this lo anybody. 1 will he very glad, however, If you will give It your immedlato attention and with? out binding yourself or Major Unoler, in? dicate lo me whether you think It would he satisfactory to him; or. if the general lilea. rn?:?-ts your views and Interests, what changes from your standpoint are noces Barj to make It entirely satisfactory. When I have your opinion. If it Is at ail favorable, my purpose |H to submit the letter with such am'-n?iinents M you may suggest, hm not a? coming from you, first t?i the Commission for Hs consideration and then to Mr. Upshur. it seems to me t!i<- three parties In in? terest, th? Commission. Mr. Upshur and Major Lanier, should bo able to agree on some form or document to ho mad?; pub? is?-, which would h?? a vindication of tho two men ?"i.?ii'il, pat the responsibility whore It seems to me to belong, and ai the s.im?: time leave the ('?Immission li a proper and ?afo nosltlon before tho pub (Signed).AUI-'liKi) II. WIl.UIAMH. Letter Never Sent. The letter suggested by Mr. William?! was as follows: Dear Sir, -On May nth thin commission addr Bscd to you a memorandumi us fol n ii.:. memorandum has been printed.) "T!.i?i statement of reasons for asking your rcslglWltloil was ??tihtly true. Wi fell thai ii," frloilon Which had dovet? op ?i between Mr, Upshur, tho chl?? clerk, and ? rsclf, ?rsl n datant eh rk, mad?' Impoaslblo the harmonious r latldhi ? ? ?,i mb i , or m?e fon-i , o -I.' : .i -. fi i i,ie i-i;iiii-iit conduct of tin .no*?, Charge* had been made . ? . ?si ' nu by Mr, Upshur of u In? ? oui official position for tun promotion of a corporation Intended to ;:<?: as Intermedia, iv.-niii agent between other corporation* i : ? ? . -h-iiiiI.-?i-liiu. \\ o mail.- ?jOiire ?'ii ? into' th ho ? iiargi . bin fi h thai n would li unJtiMi to yoy, unwise and tin < roni r to base tho request for your reaig nation up m Un m In dofauli of full and c,n? mi Investigation. The discord betweor m-- , hi? r dork nnd youraer/ was ttmpli on fot Hvorlii'! our connection, ' '.iiiiiuii'i oinl Hiroii:- , presen? Intlon, i: .v.? .?-r. v.?- concoiiu your right us a .-imii Jealous ??r his own i putitinu? ? .mu .m ? ?,;i. m. ra? i--,i . ?id ii iji . . ii '? - us i.. Mr. -Dpi m .''"n .n unanimous opinion iii.t ,n, .iil-il no iviong .net li.-ol no |uii|ii.i lo ,li?l Un Hi i Ulli m ?? uni i i-.' ii lo ?|. n ,i i In ll IcttHl lei,i Un r i -. '-." ill : in u i. . lluti i. i'; . i , . |n ill i,-,i..- -, nlni i ??.i i ii ,i ?till ?]?,- ' ?i . . fil -i ??.? ? ?? ?oluts | ? ? -i ?? ' lit? 'did ?IDl know lluif yoi ' " " to 'I u Ulf?) .<il He ? III ? I "H ni I '.!? . I'll! I'll. ?if 1 III? IrOlll'l ' .m i "in i mini ci'i-ii v. ,iii mu? woi !- fo tlin Virginia Oornotu?Ion connmn? li i nrporrttfid, inieiui? ,\ m fui ?llin.tr i.i n , I I 11 ? ? I i ', 11 of ?-il.il Ii-i'h (Hid lite Cllli'lllcl " ii mim US b I v.'.-i-ii ???>) j.'.i allim?! noil un commission, Th? uhulrnmn, not reulfjslm til? ??'."I", p'.iip'i.i'.a ;i:nl i?oi.i,il.lllit'-.i U In ihop? where wotfe manthip, style and fit are chief factors ?h^t SHIRTS ?~>f are given first plnce; They . v~"*i please the denier and satisfy the wearer. In while and color-fast fabrics $1.00 AND $1.25 CLUETT, PEABODY it CO. | 1-n.T.t Mnl:.r? rf Cbllsn ?nil Slilrt? In th? World __fi_ru this company, san? tinned and assisted In its organization. Subsequently giving this uipany no attention or thought, he left you to suppose that your work in its be? half hud hin approval, because ho express? ed no dissent. Unquestionably, and,' as von hnve frankly acknowledged to us, you have develop-.??! more gcfil In behalf of the company,' than was consistent with you duty to the Stnte and the commission, but for this the, chairman of t_\e commission assuines nl| the responsibility because he failed to onsorve or object, as, being the executive head of tho body. hj3 feels lu? should have done, and would hnve done if he had comprehended tho conditions. Therefore, you are distinctly nnd finally acquitted of all blame nnd formally as? sured 'hereby thnt tin* call for ymir resig? nation carries not even tho suggestion of an imputation <m your character, your ability, or your efficiency, "Wo Insist on requiring; vour resignation strictly on the ground that the Interest of the public service demands it, because the discord between Mr. Cpshur and .your? self Is Irreconcilable and prevents the cor. dlality and co-operation necessary for the proper conduct of the business of the of ilce. One of you must go. and we retain Mr. Upshtir in preference to yourself, be? cause he Is your senior In service, ofll cially your superior, and unfilled to our special consideration, because of his ca? pacity nnd willingness for work, and his intenso nnd complete devotion to tho In? terests of the Statq and the demands of tills commission. When this letter was read by me, 1 could only think that it was prepared l>y the commission. It has the ear? marks. There were propositions In It that I could not agree to. Ques. What were those propositions? Ana. They were trying to soft-soap me, but I would nut have It. I was will? ing to go out Into the world with a stigma cast upon my character. My counsel, Mr. Royall. then answered the communication, nn<l I think It was fair. May ?7, 1005. Mr. Alfred B. Williams. Richmond. Virginia: My Dear Sir.?Vour letter of even dato has heen handed me. Without going Into details. It Is enough to say that th-re ar? several Insuperable objections to Mr. Ini? tiier agreeing to your suggestions^ but your letter contains one suggestion, which Is seems to rne should open ihe door to a solution of the present troubles. I Infer from it that Mr. Tpsliur didn't know the extent to which Judge Crump knew and approved of Mr. Lanler's con? nection with the Virginia Corporation Company, Inc., and that If he had kn?>wn of It he would not have made his charg.-s against Mr. linier. ?? If that is bo. Mr. I'pshur should hnve no difficulty in withdrawing his chargea and apologizing to Mr. _unle:- for having made them. If Mr. I'pshur will do t'te.o?- two things, and th? commission will endorse his let? ter of apology, acquitting Mr. Lanier ab? solutely of all blame, lit. will be satls tl'd. Mr. Lanier v."l51 thr-n offer either one of the following alternatives: I. He will publish Mr. L'pshur's letter thus endorsed 3>y the commission, to set at rest the publie rumors, and will re? sign his office: or. .2 He will end all connection with the Virginia Corporation Company, Inc., and return to the commission for the per fornianci- of the duties of his office. Very respectfully. (Signed) WM. L. ROYALI,, Counsel for A. B. Lanier. Gave Up Compromise Idea. I think that about ended the Ideas for a compromise, as a short time after? wards The Tini'-s-Dlspalch published the whole matter in a Sunday paper. I wish here to state that I do not think that Judge Crump acted In bad faith In giving out the Interview, as ho acted In good faith and under a mis? apprehension. Major Lanier then read a letter ad? dressed to Messrs. Stuart and Fairfax, .denying tit? rumor that he had written certain letters, July il, irv/". Hon. Henry Fairfax. Richmond. Va.: Dear .Sir.?1 am reliably informed that the charges preferred against me by John A. Upihur contain, among other false statements, the charge that I made upon letters w'rltten In mv official capac? ity tho following memorandum by use Of .-? rubber ?tamp, viz: "Address all com? munications to the Virginia Corporation Company, Inc.. American National Manic riuildirig, Richmond, Va." And that offi? cial letters signed by mo and stamped were filed as exhibits with the charges In support of same. It s<*e-ns to me tout Buen a charge would be redleiilous to any reflecting rnlnd, and carries upon Its facu ltd own refutation. Vou hnve seen the charges and know IT they contain such a statement. I, there? fore, desire to say to you. In Justice 'o myself, that If such a charge was m-irto against me, It Is a premeditated, mallcloun and Infamous lie; nnd If there lie such Charge, and It ?s supported by 'uieh let? ter or letters as above described, 1 charge thai such letter or letters arc forgeries, done bv John A. I'pshur, or \V v.'. Barrow, or both of them, and for tiio purpose of manufacturing evidence against me. I do not write this letter for the pur? pose of eliciting from you either denial or confirmation tT?at the charge? contain such a chitrg?-. hut simply f?-r the pur? pose of Batting myself right lu a quarter I where the r.-i<-t i aro known. The charge and Its author or authors will bo unmask? ed and dealt with In the proper tribunal at the proper time. Yours very truly, (Signed) A. SYON'l-TY f.ANII-Jf*. I desire to state- standing hero In this predence. imd'-r my solemn onth, that 1 have fully and faithfully given a history ?>r all my acts In connection with tho Virginia Corporation Company. Major I.a mer then retired from"' the stand, there being no cross-examination. Mr. Atkinson Replies: Mr finrvell Atkinson, nn employe of the Corporation Commission, wan then placed upon tho stand. (.?ii'ti. Wore you In tho employ of tho commis* Ion i i 1001*7 'Ans. Yea. Mir. Que?, li in" been s.-ild that you saw Mr, Tyl" i carrying out record?! from tho utlli-. . Is.|1 I B07 se I ?;.?..- Mr, Tyler walking down thn ti..t- with it III" box to the n?lleo of il... Virginia Corporation Company. I d'Hit Idinvi v.i. it wan In tlio Hlo box. QllOB, Have mu? ?en Mr. Campbell working In ihn otilo-'' Aim. Yes. QtlCM I'id ..m loll Mr. rpslHir thnt Mr, Tj h Il II d . n i led off the Ule boxV Vil ? ?s'il l luid Cap CU In Harrow. lili i, Stood UHble. Mr. .1 A. N'uwby wan limn sworn nnd i i,,. ad mi ib" Ntnhil, *,!? li, ni I'li-iiin. ulule what you Kn?'W i, Lirillng ii." mutter bolltf Investigated. :it rVcwb} then stntod that ho was a t.. r-grii'ii 11 In i ha ?llictir of tho Hiaio ???.,[..,,-.it ,. i .iiniitlMsliiii; (lull in- hud written i- th ? ul v-fliioutj limen for Major i.tinier, two oi throe during business If.11-, :-,.,- |,--(.UV (I o'clock m iho iii'iiiiiii: m,,i .,,.,|. after il ?re?'? li. 1 un,h- Hie charte* nt Mm Virginia Corpo llll til I'litiipitiiv. and Major I ni.tlci* In (i-leil ' ||p,m puyliill lit?' fill' MlO Work, in uili'li i i,i,ule no i itui'ge, (nice I wrote ? u in f uftoi il ii'i-iod, tor Mr. Ciuiipiii'H. I" III" lib hi.tolnl Ceilul' Works. I. it? c iniui i went to luuh tu? lllUUO ! letters to tiiakri out my hill, the letters l'f'? disappeared. , Qucs. Did you know that .ludgn Crump was conectad with th" company. Ans. I did. Major Lanier had repeated? ly told mo so, Qucs. Did you tell Captain Bnrrow7 An?. No, sir. Captain Barrow testified yesterday that I had told him, In speaking of the char? ter of the Virginia. Corporation Com? pany, that he had better attend to his own business. This Is not true. Mr. Upshur stated that I had written a charter. A friend of mine wanted to chango his charter? and I went to 'Jt. Upshur nnd asked hlni to draw them. Ho Fiild ho could not. I naked him If thcro was any objection to my drawing them. He said no; that nothing would ever ?erne of It. I asked him what to charge, lie said $10 for each charter?two of them. All 1 ever got out of the Virginia Cor? poration Company was J?.fifl. Cross-Examination (by Major Lanier. Do you recall any conversation with Mr. upshur regarding the creation of the charter burcRti? An?. Yes. I was in the oflloe one ?light nnd Mr. Upshur showed me the orders that he had received from the cotnmls alon nnd said that ho wpuld keep them from going Into effect If he could, ns thny were distasteful to him. Relations Were Pleasant. Qucs. What were the relations be? tween Mr: Upshur nnd myself up to tho time of this order. Ans. Very pleasant,- r.s far as I could see. Cross-Question. Mr, Nowby, you wero my stenographer, could you hnvo de? clined to write any letter I gave you? Ans. It depends on the lottcr. (Major Lanier then made tho state? ment that Mr. New by wns his steno? grapher nnd It was his duty to write any letters ho gave hlrn. ' I desire to take all the blame, If there Is any, thnt lb nil.") The witness then stood aside. Mr. Irving Campbell was then sworn and made a statement. In the main, Major I-inlcr's statement meets with iny npproval. He was ac? quainted with things with which I was not. I have had numerous Interviews with Judge Crump, and I am familiar with all the affairs of the company since Its Inception. "Is Not True." Mr. Upshur says ho had no knowledge of the company. I say this Is not true, lie wns In the room with ub, nnd wo luive talked freely with him regarding the com? pany, nnd when he says ha did not know of this company, 1 say ho Is saying what Is not true. He talked with us, took an Interest In our affairs, nsked what clients we had. and how our business was progressing. Never until a very late day did he show any antagonism. Regarding tho cnnls which he says we used, I will say that wo had his permission. I did not know of the letter to Mr. Strlngfellnw, and I ?lid not ask to withdraw the letter, and I did not do so. This statement of Mr. Upshur Is.untrue. The rubber stamp, of which Mr. Upshur mude so much cnpl tal. Is now used in our office. Question by Mr. Byrd?But not In the Corporation Commission's office? Ans. No. sir; but It Is used on the same papers. If you were familiar with the official cards, you would know that nil these cards are endorsed or stamped nnd filed With the commission. The (He spoken of by Mr. Upshur, brought down here by Mr. Tyler, did not Iielong to the commission, but was purchased by me nnd given to Mr. Tyler to bring down the carbon copies of letters to my office "States What Is False." When Mr. Barrow says I went alone to the rooms of the commission he states what is false. Mr. Campbell then told of his visit to the commission at night. Mr. Barrow was there. Mr. Upshur came In. Mr. Harrow then went Into Mr. Upshur's office and closed the door. This was th? first time, he said, that he observed a lack of cor? diality. This was the first time I saw any lack of co-operation with us regarding the affairs of the Virginia Corporation Com? pany. Mr. Campbell ?hen went Into a discus? sion of the propriety of tho acts of his company, naming other States In which such companies are In operation. He said that the officials of other States turn over communications to these companies, ami Judge Crump recognized this. Mr. Campbell denied the charge he said Mr. Upshur had made that Judge Crump had conspired with Major Lanier In organizing the charter bureau of the commission. By Mr. Byrd: Que?. Who do you think has charged such a conspiracy? Ans. Mr. Upshur. I believe others also charge this, but I do not know. Ques. Were you In close consultation with Judge Crump regarding your com? pany? Ans. Yes. Ques. Did Judge Crump know of your connection with the Virginia Corporation Company? Ans. Yes. Ques. Did Judge Crump know of your work? Ans. I suppose so; I don't know. Ques. Did you discuss the company's affairs with Judge Crump? Ans. Ves. ? Ques. Did you know thnt Judge/Crump wns a stockholder? Ans. Ves, Mr. Campbell then marte n statement Justifying Iho action of his company In endeavoring to reduce taxation of com? panies. Ques. You Idea of Ihe moralities of such an net Is that they are proper? Ans, Certainly not Improper. Mr. Camphell thrti retired. "Shortly after the commission began Its work, It was found that tho contin? gent fund was not sufficient to run the ofllre tn the way It should have been operated, and the? lack of clerical force was apparent to every one. "When Mr. Wysor left tho commis? sion, Judge Crump was anxious that a young lawyer should be employed who would assist him In the business of eluw l(-r,(. 1 wanted a rate clerk, l/ut gave way to Judge Crump, and Major Lanier was employed. "This action wo thought would give, Mr. Upshur, chief clerk, more than linn? .for uttentlon to tho ratos. I requested Mr. Upshur to make an analysis of ?classlflcallon of rato so that II mlftut he determined If .tho railroads had boon Ir.crenslng tho ratea and I bo/jnn the study of rates. "I want "to sny that every man In (he employ of the State Corporation Commis? sion has always been overworked, and tl-lH applies from Ihr? president of Dm commission to tho lowest clerk, The coll?? tlngent fund Is not siiflh'lont to employ a proper force of clerks. "Early in the summer of 1901, i asked Mr. Upshur. if he had prepared the nuulyiilu .and he replied thai he Ijad not had the time, but that ho would preparo It Inter, on. "Later Mr. Upshur cama to my house and l again naked hint how tho analysis was progressing, nnd found that ho had di.no nothing towards .preparing It, Cl?rk at Own Expense, 1 then told him to employ a man at my expenso, for thoro were no funds In Hie bands of Ihe commission tn pay for an 'i.stia clerk. Ho said he could get ir young n?*f h t?o _??1 h8 "intl Yo? Hava Always Bougnt t?l?rnstaro ?I Mm Ihe E. B. Taylor Co. Are Offering at Their Main-Street Store Some Exceedingly Good Values in Roger's Silverware. Roger's Silverware. Fancy Patterns. Tea Spoons, only TOo per set. Dessert Spoons, only -fL'tr. per set. Tnhio Spoons, only fl.BO per set. Dessert Forks, only ffl.nr. per Bet. Tnhln Forks, only 91.BO per set. Sugar Shells, only 2f!c each. Butter Knives, only 25c each. Celluloid Knives. The Celebrnted "Russell" Cel? luloid Knife, with steel blade, nt 21c each. Salad Bowls. A special lot nt tOc each. Roger's Knives and Forks. Don't miss such n chance .-in this to K??t a line net of Heavy Plated Knives nnd Forks, for only hi*.'!.i per sot of twelve pieces. Carving Sets. Throo-Pleeo Kngllsh Steel Carving Set for only If 1 .If?. Bread and Butter Plates. Some Very Ilnndsomo Plates at only 10c ench. Odds and Ends. 500 Prtilt Saucers at ?le ench. BOO Plates, nil sizes, at fSc ench. Housefurnishing' Goods. We carry the largest and most up-to-date line in the South nnd at the lowest prices. 1011 East Main Street. man from the Cltesapotike and Ohio Rnll wny, nnd I authorized Mini to secure his services. Mr. ITpshur nttached too much Importance to the purely clerical anil sta tlstlcal work and working on reports of a statistical nnture, rallier than on prnc ?Ical and Important subjects. At Christmas, 1004, 1 ?igain tmkcd him for the analyse?, and found that only a few papers had been prepared. A new year was near at hand, and I fell tliat the work must be done. I told my asso? ciates that I must have n c|erk to take charge of the rates, in_ that the work of the commission must be divided. My ?associates agred with me, but were slow to act. Finally Judge Crump wrote the ?report ("statement") which created a charter bureau, with Lanier, Tyler and Newby under Judge Crump, and a rate department, umler me. Thn lax ?lopart ment, of which Mr. Fairfax had charge, was unchungeil. 1 want It to he distinct? ly understfiod that the division of work, ns outlined by me, wan suggested early ?<u 1304 nnd completed ?-arly In llioj. Could Not Employ Both. >n order to accomplish this change, we determined to dispense with the services of Captain Harrow, who I will sny. had been a valui?ble man to tho commission, and employ a rate clerk in IiIb place, the contingent fund being go small thai we could not employ both. When Mr. U.pshur learned of this pro? posed chang?, he said he could not do the work of the ofllco without Captuln Har? row, mid so I told him to keep Captain Barrow and that I would employ a rate clerk and pay him out of my ow>i pocket. I did not employ a "rate expert" as has been stated, for anyone who Is familiar with railroads knows that the salary of such a man is more than the entire contingent fund nf the commission, with tho salaries of all three Commission, ens added. I employed Mr. R. 'I'. Wilson nnd paid hint Jl_ a month, for I felt that the work must bo done. Later Mr. Fairfax insisted ilppn pay? ing half of this expenso, which we bore until Mr. Wilson becama first assistant clerk, some five or six months later. I go into these details because it was at my preremplory demand that the "statement" was issue?! and thc changes made. On the night of April IT. lSfJfj, I found a paper enclosed In un envelope bearing tin? name of the Stnte Corporation Com? mission, at my residence. I <Hd not open the paper thnt night. The next morning I found that the envelope contained the charges iniule by Mr. I'pshur. I had to leave Richmond the next day to keep an Important engagement, and so thn charges were not considered at once, I returned seven days later, hut Mr. Fair? fax was then away ?nd so it was not until tho L'Tth of April that we called Mr. Upshur Into the office to discuss the matter with him. Apparently Satisfied. Wo told Mr. I'pshur that we proposed to go Into an Investigation of the charges. I do not recollect what he said, but I <lo recollect that he soorned to bo satisfied with Iho position we took In thc matter. "When Major Lanier came into the office, as well as I can recollect, Judge Crump'1 said to him: "Major, you will recall that you spoko to me about certnln charges that would be made. Mr. Upshur has now made them." He was asked a number of questions regarding the charges and Juilgo Crump and I cro?s-<|iieslloned him. He admitted many of the charges in substance, saying that ho did have two "young men of the ofllco In his pay; that lie had gotten rompnnlen to reduce their capital and so cut off State revenues.. Some of, the charges he admitted lu effect, some In modified form and one. ho denied, but It developed that In the mat? ter ho denied there wan no charge. After he went out, 1 said flint it. was unnecessary t? call ,riny witnesses, for Major f.imlor's own statements hud shown that he must hedlsinisscd. My two associates agreed with mo. 1 turned to Judge Crump and said that nt; junior Lanier was In his department, illlil us he ((.'rump) know him (Lanier) hotter than wc did, wo would leuvo tho mutter of bin resignation in his hands, hui I added, "At all events lie must- go." We decided that it was best for tho otilen to dismiss Newby, hut at tho i'e <iuest of one of tho commissioners we ?impended action In Iho case of Tyler, who s.ned to appreciate his mistake and who liad enjoyed u tine record. On May ?Id -Mr. I'pnhur reiniested that we Hiispeml action, without giving any n,-iHnii, We did suspend action until Mnv Dili, nnil on advice? from Mr, llp uliiir, making further churges, Judge Crump wrn*i? Major Lnnier on May 11th a loiter /inking for hi? resignation, nnd busing the reipieiit on tfcu ground of Iri-ee oiiniluhl?- ?lilfereiiccH '??'tween the chief ,-lerli il'psltui') and f-niiler. fllere Mr. St null went into a discussion of the let? ter, I Mr. Stewart Questioned. By ?Mr, Pyrrt: Quus. Was the roui reason given In that let ter foi' the dlstiih-i4.il of Umler'.' Ans. Yes, a very ff'ood mid sufficient reason, it had como lo mo from several source'' that thero hud beuu for euino lime ?trained relations between the chief clerk and the llrs-t assistant ?drrk, ai?! that they had been on Ih?. Verge of A light. When tho dharges were made I dl overeo that the parier was denuncia' tory and of a highly excited and intcm perate nature- of such a character that It must have brought about serious te siills. Sill"?? It was known that irrecon? cilable difference? did ?slat, and .?luco the commission could deal with their subordinates as it saw lit. I considered thnt w<- could take any good and i-iifll cliiin grounds for ?.in- notion, I now think n was .1 mistake to give any reason at all. Judge Crump wrote the brtter, which met with the approval of biH associ?tes. ! By Mr. Byrd: Ques. Would you h ive dismissed La? nier for hi.? connection with the Virginia Con oration Company? An?, i should certainly have done so, imt i considered the othei .?? ison ? good one. I would say, however, that ! live ami rather improper ' -ii.- lion wltfc the Virginia Corporation ( 01 ipany was tin controlling reason. I learned afterwards thai Mr. Upshur showed great bitterness In stating his ob i Jution t<? the reasons we hail given tot I l.r.nler's dismissal. I only learned tins for I had very f?-w words with him at any time. 1 had. therefore, very littlu opportunity of hearing his views on any question. Mr. Royall Calls. Rome ?lays later. Mr. Royall telephoned to ask If lie could appear before thi ?"in mission. I sent him a message IHhl iwo member? of th" commission were in the ofl.ee ami won!.i receive him. When he came, accompanied by Major Lanier, I told him that we could hear nothing officially until we bad first lia.l notice of the nature of the matter, but that we would be glad to listen to hint In? formally. Mr. Royall then made a re-' iiu??t for a copy >?f the Upshur charge's, and presented ?' letter which has al? ready been read, I Informed Mr. uoynll that we would consider the matter on his withdrawal. I said that as both Lniler and Upshur wer?? dissatisfied, I tnought it would bo well to niako tho whole affair public and give out the charges. Mr. Fairfax objectod, saving that he thought ihe "charges" were a -'privileged communication," and 'we decided t?? take legal advice, as Judge Crump was out of town. We desired to net in the matter not only justly arid fairly, hut to place our? selves on tHe highest plain? amongst gen? tlemen, and with this idea wo ndvlscd with Mr. Eppa llunton, whose reputation Is as high tu(_ai).v In the Commonwealth. "Mr. llunton advised us that It was a 'privileged communication,' ami explained tin; nature of such a communication and th" reason of its being privileged. "I then asked Mi: llunton if we C01'?l give out the 'charges' If Mr. Upshur con? sent? <1. lie replied: 'Yes.' "I then asked if we could give out the 'charges' only with his (I'i'shur's) con? sent, lie replied: 'Ves.' "We finally determined to take no step until Judge Crump returned to Rich? mond." Tho committee then adjourned until this afternoon at 3 o'clock. INTERESTING LETTERS. Attorney-General's Opinion Re? garding the Upshur Charges. Subjoined aro certain letters which throw side lights upon the Corporation Commission tangle, and for that reason aro interesting anil valuable; Richmond, May ?fl, 10O3. John A. Upshur, ISsquIro, Richmond, Virginia: Dear Sir,?You will ilnd enclosed here? with copy of a letter addressed by tho commission lo \V. I.. Royall Esn.? at? torney for A. S, Lanier, from which you will observe thai the commission has de? clined t? furnish hlin a copy of tho report made by you as chief ? ?erk, containing chargea against Mr. Lanier, llrst assist? ant clQl'k. i We note In a communication addressed I'hy you lo the commission, under date of May 27th, that you ?mole In full a letter Itddr?ased to you by A. S. Lanier, in which 'l?tter Mr, Lanier ??alls on you for a copy 'of tho charges mudo against lilni to tin ' i commission. In view of the fact thai you niav hesitate to furnish a copy of this ?report to .Mr. Lanier, herauso it was an oillilai communication, nddrossed to ihn commission, ?I is the desire ol' the coin. mission that you vou shall feel entirely at liberty to furnish Mr. Lanier with a copy of this report If you desire to do so. Yours very truly, (Signed by members of Corporation Commission.) Royall to Commission. 'I'o tli" Sl"tt Corporation ? Commission: (?ciillomen.XMr. A. 8. Lanier has con sillted with inn lit" counsel In .regard to tli?i call mi hliu for b's resignation as liest assistant clerk of tin? commission, nnd 1 liav Ihniigl.t the case one ?which 1 should bring formally before you by tills proceeding: And thai there may |?o no ?nlsund?rmandlitg ulbnut', anything >vh?l Kucvi'i- that I nay, I have determined tr. put iiiv rcniiirlsH Into i hi? :. typewritten i-iaiimiiiiiciitloii, Mr. U'Uilt'i' Informs nie that some Iwelvi uauithn ago li-- had-a very fair and grow?, lag i>m.tlce au u lawyer, and was als.