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wr?Kk the ccuatrrr* demanded Mr
L'nUrmy? r.
The situation grew more tense. The
spectators i raued eagerly to ?.atch th
J'Ply. and Mr. Baker leaned back la
Ida chair, his chin i-eetliig en his hau,;
watching iLc lawyer closely. Finally
he aaid'
"Tea. but 1 do not Relieve It could
get into bed hands "
"You admit." p?:.-isted Untermycr.
"That if iMs . imcent ration to the point
to which it baa now *uu? were by at:-,
accident to gat lata b*J hands it aaaJd
v. reck the oouatry?"
1 aaoaei imagine auch a au-aticn.
protested sne wit meg
"I thought you aaid so."
"I aaJd it would be bad.'* explained
the witness vigorously, "but 1 do not
think it would wreck the country. I
ao not think bud hands could m.uia?<
iL They could not retain the deposlt.
?or tha securities '
"I am not speaking o? incomueti,.:
bands." eaid jar. l'tKj?rmyer. "We
are speaking of thip eooeeatratloa
Walch has come about, and the Powe'
that It orir.gs with it. getting into the
hands cf very ambitious men, per?
haps not ovt r-scrupulous. Yu? a ? ?
peril in that do jou not?'
?"Tea." aaawarad Mr. linker.
"So that the &afet>. if you think
there la any safety In the situation.
reaJly lies in the pcrsouuel of thi
"Very much."
*T>o >oj thinft, ' demanded the law
yex. "th.u is a rnanfnrtsUr situation
lor a great country to be In*'
"Not entirely,'' s?k. Mr. Lakci verj
At this po i.t. Mr ITntennTer closed
the examination preetpitatoty.
"That v ill h. all. Mr. Baker." he
said, smilingly, and th? spectators sat
back with a sigh.
As the committee adjourned until
next Tuesday, tha witness, aritiu.g in
Ids place. thanked the committee .inu
its counsel for their courtesy, and was.
In return thanked for testifying He
and his parry left immediately f. r thi
train that wa's to lake them to New
riaaailal TrliimvrVate.
Early in the day. In the midst or
bond issues of millions and the Intr. -
caeies of high tinar.ee. Mr. rmermier
endeavor. J to ?????..?.?<-, Ma Baker. ,T. r
Moigan aai .inmes Btlllman la a finan?
cial triomviraie teatrclling huga in
"is Mr. Moraaa recognized as the
grtat penrial of the financial army'.'"
he asked.
"That is according to 'whom you
ask." said the witness. "We. his
frrends, tliir.k he is."
"He ia generally so recognized, 1.?
he not?"
"W.Tl. yes.'' sail Mr Baker.
"And you and Mr. Janus Btlttmaa
are Ms ehfed lit ut< nants?"
"We were during the panic"
"And ycu three dominate the finar.
rlal situation?"
?"** itaker would not airnU this, but
lie f-ai'l that Mr. Morgan "would be the
anhat ?oxBlnant figure in the worKi it
be were younger." and that "he knexc
of no one more dominant than Mr
Throughout the day Mr. Unteraiyer
went at Sr wtth the witness the flota?
tion of re-uritles by Iiis bank, and af?
ter considerable aig-ument with coun?
sel for Iba witness seuared an apt' -
rrient that if the directors of the Chaw
National Bank are willing. Mr. Baker
artti submit to the committee h> Belt
Taeaday a list of the big traaaa. lions
In which that bank. .1 P. ItOTWaa A.
Coaapaay and athor larg > institutions
hi?e act-'d .'oirit'.y.
Pfeiffer'? Heirs ?|n?i Walk a ?.traigM
Path fn Inherit Ills W en Ith.
Watte Plains. X Y.. January ik?The
will of c, Oeaar l*feltfer, <>f Beared ah
whb-h has been filed for probate in this
place and which disposed of an estnt.
ef some js?e_a?f>, oo-.taln-d a claat
which stlpalated that any eon of hl =
who >e1 a dish - u: rieht?
engaged in d'shon.-st or anrieh team
hU8.:i' SB, or who llXi rt 1n *'r-otnus ' Mil
nees. should he cat eat Of any sh.ir
:n the rotate,
Th- w'i! provided that tay ?oa of his
Wkc n.:s adjudged a drunkard in th
i?gai aenae of rh? word should not
share !n the prcmertv Tn such caaa
any shrir? of s tcii a son should go to
the family of Siat son, he decreed Mrs
rfeiffr- and .Tames <"1. Cannon, or
Soars.lale, pres:de:.t of the Fourth N.t
tleaal Bank of N.-w York City, get
aamcd ?s??nttra ?>:" th a .'
8 W. Broad St.
Round Steak........
Chuck Steak . 1 lc
Stewing Beef. Sc
Pot Roajt .
Freth Ham* .
Corned Hams
Regular Hams
Smoked Shoulders
Pickled Pig Faet ..
Pickled Trip?.
Hamburger ..
Pain Seauaage 10,
Pork Sauaage .. 1 Sc
Stnoiuhd Unit* .... 12ic
Fraah Soanct EdTga
Beat But-OA OT
iaviflM aVUC and L J
Baat Creamery But?
Our hoboy is to keep things
moving in the Boys' depart?
Norfolk suits in odd weaves;
two piece suits in rich durable
grays. Overcoats in all the
new wrinkles?belts, colJars,
pockets, cuffs?that fashion
has ordained for tins season.
To be found in this big sale:
Boys' Suits and Overcoats
and Coats for Girls and
Young Women
That were?
S8.50 and $9.00 at.$6.75
S10.00 and S11.00 at....$7.75
$12.00 and $12.50 at.$9.75
S6.50 and $7.00 .'it
$7.50 and $8.00 at
Some pretty gay birds among
lour shirt patterns.
Stripes prevail, but we've a
good lot of broken patterns.
j Of course the main point is
to keep the color scheme witii
your neckwear, handkerch.ef
and hose.
The patterns are exclusive
with us.
(That were $1.50 at.$1.15
That were $2.00 .it. $1.45
That were 12.50 -it.IMS
That were 13.50 at .$2.65 i
The Berry Shirts are,
in the sale too.
$1.90 buy* a S3.50 or $4 ?oft hat
or derby either here to-day.
The derbies are "seconds." but
you nor I can't see why.
The soft hats are broken lots
from our regular stock.
Contend That United Shoe Ma?
chinery Company Has Not
Violated Law.
Wa. hinaton, January 10.?Arts <??
SfBeialfl of the L'nit-d Shoe Machinery
Company were up lor measurement h)
t!i?- Sherman antitrust act to-day la|
the Bupreaaa Chart. The court had ad
11mil the government'! appeal froml
th?- action of the llaeaachiieotta Ped-J
I eral <"ourt la annulling: Hj? ? indictment
I aralnet the officials as not caarclas
i an offense under the Sherman law J
The appeal of tlic government from
the hoi-ling of the lower court was
innate hy SoUcltor-Ooaaral Buiiitt. lie
declared titat the constitutionality of J
the Sherman act as a criminal meas?
ure was now beyond dispute. The com?
bination of from 7<> per Beat to &n perl
cent of all the shoo machinery busi
> ? Sfl of tiie country into one. he con
laaded. Vaa in itself so Rrcut a pro
porttoa of the entire business as to,
coastttute a reatraii.t Of trade within
the meaning of 'he Sherman law. ,
The sclieitor-Ri ne rai also contended
that the adoption of a series of leases
containing a bo railed "tying'' ?lause.:
wherehy every customer, in order to I
sec are any one kind of maohlae Crom
tiie 'Vomiiine." was compelled to'
agiea not to use any cthei' DMeaaaa
?Msle by the "I ad apt naeata." and to1
us- only machinery made by the com
Mad wn> also in rlelat'en of the law.I
Frederick P nah a"d Charlea I*. I
>'i I:. peatea were present tOI
fend fTie action of the oftVlals
I They took th< position that the con-j
solidstioii of i . separate concerns
into the I tiited St.ee ?ah? hit..tv '"oni
T'a. -> ?.<?. a :;..r.; a| trade ;r\cIopmeot.
As lo the 'OiiiR < lauei. tlie\ declareo
the court dtd ami at thai statt-- have
'me pewea ta eoaeMer that, he.-ause it
Iwaa in? rly an m. it net, ? harge?! t?>
Ipreve t.'..- conspiracy. an?l not a pa*rt
j"' Um oi.spira v itself, slii^i was
the nary thlna the court could review.
lere.?.?: \ i re tola?ICala ?alnritar
and peOhaMy >?oda>; warmer ?mnr.
da?; moderate ??Ulli ??lad*.
North and Heath ? nrollna?liaia Bal?
tic.la > Bad pewhaMl ??i?da? : warmer
v?l nrde' : mode rale riot wind?.
?neelal I neu I llala for Veatrrdar
I ' aeon tempeiatare . t".
I' M t' :riper..tur I. iu
:- vi temperature up to %
'? M . . 5?
tempi ra'^re ? p to ?
P M . ???
ab ? ? per at are. ?t>
N mal ? ssPe rat are. 3*
? ?? I? temperature. ;
j ? PsaBPeratBre aiaoe Mh?eh
.peratiir? since
11 air, e Mar-h
?'r -.
? =*
i.aial aaaareaajaa ? r. a. teaaaraar.
' rature . 47
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"?' ' '? drfee| nn .... St
I her . . n-?.idv
?? \nitmv?. i\ taroiti ?\r irnri
?1 ? r M. 'e|,rr, star laid Tim' I
J?,a.e Th. r il T I, T Weather.
''hi ?so ..... i -t ?., Raw
I* rer . ?? ?t ;o c. ,r
. I t* ? <tr.,r
??a'v. -ton .... ?? ?- ?? R.)r.
Matt? ??? i -i. .i r e|.,./?,
?'e> ?? IS 1? m ?row
Je'hBBW rille I *<t IJ i*.nude
Karsae Ctty . ?? p> JJ C,, jdv
. fa .... 44 4? 14 C
Wontaiauri .- ?* e? fJl *idv
?Jew Orleans . ?? Tl I I ?-*loudv
New Tora ... ?? a* f: cow.t
rfeth ......4t a] ?',?ud?
'?h'ahoma .... *? I? ii r,?dr
1 " ? rath ... ?? 41 H?:n
...... 4. 4? II I'lcny
* If* 'a . M -t 2a Ratn
?" r. A . :a Id ?? ra
P ?ockena 4s ? i , ,
?a.aanaa .... ?4
ahkebeao ??
t?KS! ?.,4 :' 1 1 < "?"di
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. a mr- -J a ffittrn
iWii^avj.m aaaa d* ? M l'-c-adr
Reluctance to Part With Adrian
ople Is Cause of
Jiule/arian Delegates Call It the!
"Alsace-Lorraine of
Our War."
London. January 10.?The pendolnm
of peace in the Balkans swings be?
tween the fall of Adr^anople and a-Uon
by the powers of Europe. Advices.
?..Kirt-Miuns. good offices, pressure au'ij
friendly offers?al. that diplomatic t<
minoiogy includes?r.as baea attempted
bj the powers to bring Jie conflicting
parties to terms over Adriauople, but
the reluctance of Turkey to cede the
? Holy oty" is only surpassed by the
di termination of the allies to win thev
patata to have it included In ihe ter?
ritory of maiffarin
ae i t i a l so-called Intermediate
courses for solving the problem by
i ? nti.-tly separating Adrianopb
from Tt.rkcy nor entirely giving it to!
Bulgaria have booa refused by boffcI
?Mas As an indication of the stand!
I hi aJiits have taken one of the Bul-|
gaiian delegates .-aid to-day. "Adnau
.'I..- is the Alsact-laurrairy: of our j
'I' -rkey's hopes that she may be gfllr
to save Adr'*tnople undoubtedly have;
booa revived by the threatening attt
: ol Kuumania. la this a 111 f -l.
Ko. mania is believed to bo backed b>'
V.stria, as otherwise she would not
?-rg. her c airn s>> energetically against
Balf/arta in contrast with her pacitic
pos-non of a fortniKht tan.
The powers are awaiting the rejui?
of -eprt-s.-riiations to he made to the
t'onstantinoplo government by th?tr
amLassadore tn the. Ottoman capita!
The note probably will be dvlivere.i
MorxJav to the Porte.
Tan anil assadorlal conference met at
the I'oreicn OflsCO to-di; bat the only
information given out was I hat the
meeting and arrived at BO important
devlsy.n and had adjourned intil Mun?
de-. T!i> an.baaaadora wou.d rot cog
hrni reports that a naval demonstra?
tion had been planned as a last re
.sort t.j hnflaoaap Turkey.
T irkev's threat to wdthi'aw her
peaee delegatea early next week It the
allies r.-' :se a. farther Compromise In
their .leniands wns dlsciie*?d al to
dflf|l% slttinsT of the ambassadors, but
was not considered a serious one. TM
sJatep I tea "I'M*^ ?o T-rkey with a
? outifer threat rhat tl-.ey n-ill give
..II n?res?arv notl-e of a te>-mitiation
? .I tt.e armistlee it the Turks leave|
tat 1-eai.e conference
?'..pe had been entertained that the]
dinner given last night b] i'aul I ???
.-n. the l'r?nrh ambassador, to th?|
PeaaP de'-ravs. at which the Turks
and pMM mi l tor the first Urne on I
nei;ttrfl s"ound would furnish occa?
sion tor eonverantlons which woold1
end the des-lock, but the affair la de-|
?? I bed as having been cold and tttt
M Van hasten, leader of the QaaSfej
ir ..- ? .mpat-i..f- are |
uainst an* t?non? at
?? rni?t bg prevent ij-.ee? from aniiesing j
all the Tarku.ll Islands. Tbjev de-1
rlaftsl to-day laeSt grief and indlg
OOm this phase of the attue-;
ad been aurmented by cOntUms
llaa that the Initiative for haentna I
?" * is.ajg'k away from 'Jreece had i
I eoate from Italy, which I hey consld
n ' ?<.'?? supporter ?n the triple sl
?eh delegates say tbe-. eaa I
!?.?? hnatpma i??iv as aathni pj her|
? r -it.reel rapernr.g 'ha Islatida.
I ?rei snapaal sf.? is seeking te pleaae
r R.elt
? -i? - !? a ipp?eed ?? asptrr '? n
? i MM ur 1 HiSSta bjaaj
- rcarter of th< 1'ar
TK I (I ikk e Hatl
r>eratj'? Mnan IS as SjaSJ ST.
. - . ->t > ?INJ
m w i i v \KJ>t a i u'.vn
i -? M<si i em
M? a . a m
aata la fa'-e- r.. an?Cg>pt ffsmi. BtvssaaV
* a IWrw-aTA> "m r M?ea gt , Mat-!
-xtaa. Va.
,raUM 6 c-a-K*. ?khnaaag, >?a lern.
MOW lt\VM<>M? |MH\< 41?:, KHKNC H I'HKHIEH^
-Men Acquainted With Situation
Say Centenary and Broad Street
Methodists Will Not Join.
If Consolidated, the Two Congrc
garions \\Wild He Largest
fan Conference.
The expressed opinions of Infiui nti.il
members of both churches would make
it seem that the merger proposed be?
tween Centenary Methodist Church and
Broad Street Methodist Church Is. for
the present at least, not likely to take
While admitting thru considerable
discussion of the project had been en
Kaged in betwe.n various persons la*
t<-r.-sted. Kt-v. W J. Young, D. P. pas
?or of Oealaaar* Church: Rev. Kran?
I- Wells, U. I>.. pastor of the Broatf
Street Church: John P. Branch, one ot
Centenary's most prominent members,
and .loht. ?.'. Freeman, president of the
hoard of stewards of ?'..nt-nary Church,
agreed in saying that in their opinion
the matter would procaoiy proceed no
All action so far hns been entirely
informal. It is understood that sev
eeaj members od both churches woahl
like to see the consolidation put
through, and that the dlsvussions have
been entered into principally because
<f Centenary's intention of erecting a
Sunday school ndditlon to the present
ehurch structure on <!race Street.
Por the purpose of bti,ldiitK the ad?
dition the church recently purchased
the property inM adjoining ltd 04 n
ua the right. N*o plans for the struc?
ture have been drawn, and the exact
-ature of the proposed building is not
I atdV In Dental.
Or W. Ils paator at the Broad Btreet
Church told The TtasXn-PfatOWtCh la-t
night that he knew very little about
the propos. d rri' X'r Other than thtt
It had bean discussed informally by
??>. i.bers o; both eonci.-cations, who
K.vored tin -re.--.on of a cathedral
l>r Young of Centenary, explained
fiat the proposal bad com- UM) bCtOBSa
of tin. eeceeett] of building an add!-i
tion to his church. The members _
some of them - thought that noww...i.d.
b? th? t;m. tor ei ittag with the Broadl
street congregation so that a modern
edifice might be put up. Dr. Young
continued that !t was now probable
Centenary would continue with Its
Individual Building plans, and that
the merger would not take place.
Mr. Branch In discussing the matter
said that Centenary Church would be
very glad to have the Broad Street
Church unite with it. but that such a
move would be almost impossible br
lore the close of the present confer?
ence year, which does not end until
IU st November. Mr. Branch said that
ihe united church would probably b.
UM largest In the Virginia Conference
John C. Kreeman did not think there
could t>e much to the proposal. He
raid no official action had been taken,
and that lie knew very little about
the matter one way or the other.
I catenary" Older of Two.
Of the two congregations. Centenary
is the older and the larger. It was
founded la 1S12. having celebrated Its
ct nterinial only last motith. The con?
gregation now numbers almost l.OOii
The church has had an interesting his?
tory, ami has long been one of the
foremost charges in Virginia Meth?
Broad Street Church Is not so old nnr
so large. It is. however, one of the
orincipal digantown COttf Cksa In the
city, its central location at T-nth and
Broad Streets making it easily ac?
cessible. The membership is now in
the in ifthborhood of SOU. The church
has occupied its ore?at building slr.ee
its founding, in 1848.
Both of the churches were built'
wh> n Kichraond was a young city, arid
the taaeal developments in the real
estat? field haw steadily encroached j
ou the building sites.
AM lli:Ml< fUtl.O t OMI'OT.
Ma Bamaaaoe IMnHoeed by a Criminal
( ase In l.ondoa.
lamdon. .lanuary 1U.?That there n
kttS a conipany for making gold by j
alohemj was disclosed in a ease heard
at the London MOOloa Two men were1
charged with stealing alchemic gold
valued at |X.bM The prosecutors were
th- AI?.hemy Oold ''??mpitny, Ltd.
'Do- men were eotivieted and sen
toao d to terms of Imprisonment.
I.r.Atfc ?IKING VI?,IIT.
Bebel I ?r? ts IH?.a|ipear Irom Meinily of
Meairo < it>.
ilrv. j City, .'?? mry i" r.eb<:s to-day
bad dl?appeared from t'") Iill'a about Ayo'.t
? :.??> ur.it nie m n from MM wbera
11 St I lOaS'a bat lie lo.,li plOOO They left
duri.is ihr night ?n the arrival Of the IYd
>. getarkwotmavaioi
More 'hau mea Vers kl:ied veat^rday.
eeeotmg Kedera.?, ret?. ;? ?.<i aeeeeeaeet
agaa, OOaaatamff tm ?? n aaaie minuu
J'urrhermnre. a force of J?> Infantrymen
from Meaare Cat] is sal,! to hav- been StM
ts picirr and a timilar fata la ranwrt'd to
a', r Sotallea a eOtmM Sf I? Itiour.terl po
Ism The battle raged (ram Ui A. M. uulli
late at Bight.
?rf r**L*m^P**?> '*~mm Bmm **** l"Jro^ kr4 *" twUtirV
Not Kven Tcntati.c '.ahmet
Formed by President
Portfolios Will Not Be Handed!
Out as Rewards for
Work Done.
Princeton. X. J., January It?Pres
dent-Eiert Wilson I* en route to-night
for Chicago, where he will address the
Commercial Cl ib to-morrow night. Ha
left here at 5;47 o'clock.
The engagement t-? deliver an ad?
dress before the Commercial Club waa I
accepted by Governor Wilson long be?
fore election. The speech p.-obably
will be the last he will deliver outside
,v, v Jersey before he bee mv-s Pres?
ident. Returning, he will leave Chi?
cago at It.'dd P. if. Sunday, reaching!
Trenton Monday, wnen he will speak
at a lunc! eon to bo given the New
Jersey electors, who meet that day.
With Um .Vew- Jersey legislature
commanding his daily attention, it Is
expected the President-elert will have
comparatively Mttle time for national
affairs. Mr. Wilson. B. ?we\>r. has re?
ceived a great deal of Batvtee in the
naaferaaeaa he already has had with
Democratic leaders, but he reiterated
to-d-iy t.'iat be had not made a single
decision on any subjer' and added that
he had not ev. n made a t?nt.it've se?
lection as to who will be !n the Cabi?
net He made it clear that he intends
i to pirk men for their aerviceabllity
rather than in reward for political
I activities in his behalf.
The Governor will ror.tinur his con?
ferences with members of Congress,
and his views on the policy to pursue
at the extra session will be rnumt
ated In the special mrsr-iav which h*
will send to Congress. Ha w.il wrttt
it. immediately after his inaug urat MM.
Hille? Visit In ? Mr?at
Chicago. Januarv t" -President?
elect Wilson's visit la r"hr*Bgr
ne'row and r?und?v will be oo|.-t He
will leare Ihe train at an out I w ng
station, w here a commit . f ,ort |he
Commercial Club will meet him xrsd
escort him to the home of DtBVM B
Jones. There he will remain until
time for him to attend Ma d|nner
glven h\ the club In the evening. At
the dinner he will be seated between
'trovernor I w-netl and ?;o\en"d-iJ-li? t
The President-elect will sjw nd Sat
urda\ night at the Jones r< ?Maasen, and
on Sunday will be the ?ues? ..f Clyde
M. I'atT. president of the ?'..mm'e, iai
Club, at b's home. Owing to Mr
Wilson's limited time h're. r- will -
cept no ipvMatlon except that ?f the
Special prepsrat ions have been mate
foi his oroteefb-n Several motor cars
tilled with policemen will guard blm
wbene\er he rides about the ?-ity
l*hief MiWeenev will be in peraonal
charge of the squad.
Hill Het Ire H at H a rr l??aa rsT.
Ilarrlsburar. Pa. Januarv i?_Pre?i
dent-tie t Wilson and nariv pa-se i
tbro-igh here at I ?? o e|?, K to-night
otf the Pennsylvania sta1lrna?t en rout
to Chicago A drleaalmn "f ?"?" ' '
tral l?em.K-rati. < 'I?>b. -f Ibis MtP. mm*
at Ihe -t.tioo to wreet Mr Wilson
bllf he hae i ? t ired.
p till lit RUR tlOI?TP"
v?hi:n < tnm riKM
West pomt N V. January l??<f?
dels a? the Intted States Mllltarv
Academy speculated to day up m what
|r|.?., the Mllthorlt e* WOUld lake ... T
the marriage of one of the ead is *
terda-. in violation of the rul- taat
cadets are r,ot permitted to marry Ttm*
ritnan e m onestlon is that .?f Klmer
K Adler a sergeant, who. dreraed in
uniform was married at Tarryiown
ye.t.r v t<? Mlts Florence P. I?avla.
daurhter of Mr and Mrs Harry ?>
r?avf of Roffslo Adler aaaap frem
Hllllng*. Mont . ard was In hta third
year st Wert Point
Nene of the cadets l??-4av could re
rail a slm.lar roman. e. and they ??i
dered what the authorities will do If
nrOthlng further ihan declare him d's
nuellfi-d a* a cadet The charge of
"abaetwe without leave- Is now pend?
ing ajr.lnat him hut cadets eay b.t
Adler will undoubtedly return to lae.
|)| iharge
Mi-a t'sv'a met Adler at a fnrtball
name more than a year ?i? She baB
attended S number ?f daf>'*? here
an4| was httrhly regardeel. while AS
, l#r hlms'lf waa one of the most Pca
\m\*i. a?4at? *4 .Waat T?m\
That you really ^et two instru
menta in one case when you buy
If you wi->h to pUy on an IN?
NER-PLAYER I'.,u,o by hand
sun (.hi UM it ju>>t as you would
.my other piano. I he INNER
PLAYER devici li entirely ind?
pendent of the keyboard, and an
INNER-PLAYER Piano cost* bui
little mure than an ordinary piano
I the >.mie urade.
A trial will bt all the evidtim
\uii want.
(Cdatiaaai Tr*m ftygt Page.?
v..-:- ?:.>>\ Ol?1 lines. dMl mi:.all."
importers then given the came rates.
Representative Alcxand. r suggested
thin prevented competition In rate?.
"Kate cutting is a moet unfortunate,
position to t>?- Ii.. replied Mr. Oer
barUL "Vou cannot run steamers un?
less on a paying basis. You cannot do
It on a paying basis except you
have an understanding against cut?
ting rates. We have had some bitter
William K Halm. New Tork agent
for the Houston IJne, testified that a
la.ndon "conference" controlled tho
New York trade to b'outh Africa.
"I may say I know that the freights
are pooled." he testified.
Subject to that conference were the
Houston Line, the Prince Line, the
"?'??> ?? I .' on i'iay Line at.-i
UM Amen., an-African Ijne. Ho de
ej tred not a shipper was dissatisfied,
with the r'outh Afrleitn service.
''hatrman Alexander asked whether
the Houston Ltag was u, any a?r.e
ment reguiatlng freight or passenger
traffic hetwo-n the fnited States ami
I-i Plata Hates for this trade, the
aiUiesB said, were made In New York
at conferences among representatives
of the various steamship linea. al?
though no written agreements were
entered into. The ? onferenees. he
said, were held once a week. In ftxfne*
rates, the witness add'-sl, an effort was
made to keep them on a parity aita
rales from Germany and k>:iKland.
t.lvea No itruairs.
Mr. Halm declared t.im* his company
had not fciveji rebates on outgoing
?as?ei s from the United States for
many >ea-s.
"I know nothing about reb.ues on
eargoe. fic.m Argentine to the l'nlted
Stat- s." sa.d the witness '! ,i I kh .w
from <-orr, tapeadeaea that re hits ar?
rangements exist"
Asked Wltatnan? there was any aare?
, ment between railroads and steamship
companies as to throng', ratea. Mr
Halm said that as far as he knew no
sii. a. agreements ever were entered
"Experience has shown." declared Mr.
Halm, "that there is only one way of
getting service, and that is tnrousrh
rebate and pojling arrangemente.
Theas m- i hods are recognize^ as lawful
i.j in. governments of ringla . 1 and
Germany '
Pooling arrangements were neces?
sary, he said, kt cause nn one ablp
eWner . o.ild operate a xufHci.-nt num
bof pf steamers to kern up a continu?
ous service between New York and
Haut || Africa. Rebates, he continued.
WOT! ? IV- ii to prevent .shippers front
taking cargo spa-e In tramp -Lamers.
? Yoi.r omtj raaaaa for not giving r<
hat.s on cargoes out of New York Is
that >.?u think It would conflict with
the antitrust law?' asked Representa?
tive Hardy.
'That is true." rrpUed the witness.
ft plaining why his company had
i,m,r established lines b.twc n Gblf
ports and South America. Mr. Halm aatd
hanfet r. the chief oommodlty shipped
south from the Gulf, usually went In
full cargo jots arid that shippers could
thems.l-.es i.a-t-r v-asels -a* cheaply
?s the steamship lines. The resl rea?
son why trade between the l'nlted
State* and SefJth Ai-c-rica has not been
gt v. loped more rapidly, he Insisted,
was t. .? tia'ural iT.den.-v .,f Germans,
aseamtftfl and rinRlishmoti lo-atid in
Heath America, to trade with their
home lounlries.
-.,1.-1.1? of No ??all.
? Woild snbsldv to American ehla
owner;-- over oni' this tendency?" ask'd
lleavexentatlve Ha-dv
\bs. I'ltely it would not." the Wit?
ness replied.
I ? . u I <;.tiheil president of Fnp.'h.
Krivr * ?'o. a Prin a -t na ..s freigrht
aaer.t for a number of large steamship
line* in Indi' v ii-.. Hamburg-American
Idmg Hat Scandinavian-Am? rtcan Ijne
and to- l'nlted Staira Shipping -Vim
l-ant. told lb.- committee, that Mr <r?r
hardl has mad* substantially accurate
statements of the trade between Brasil
and the l'nlted Stal.a.
Mr rtoiiheti declared the r*?n-Ameri?
can Steamship ?'?mittiv was a failure,
ti ?? b-r?:.sc of efforia <W1 the part of
companies In the rote agreement to
thr .tt'e. but bes-sase the people be
hlrd the new enterprise did not "know
their b'isineaa and paid a profit of
pj hj ship onrver? for the Teasels
tio y . hart? rcj "
, ,,, p| i.rt.F/? HOI fgj.1
? ?alter fleas New H?eae fm? tbe Kaee
tl?>an? January I?-The fTXecntlvw
I Mansie- will be known as Th- People s
House" during the admlnietrot'nn or
Oewarnor ?aiarf The n?-w Btrntf^
,h, mansion level p. i wken the Ooj
oraar announce* he wrmld entertain
,h. presidential eWto*-?Who meet
on afottdav. at -The rooplt-a
. mean the KTOrntfaa atan
?lr-- h* was aak-d. _ ^ _
"Tut, that is 'he p? iiptssg aanapa,
lpnj-T#*.Tergor replied _
Oanrles T. afarphy. 1*asdhrr ot Xartv?
Ball, la *?a oloaawg. -o*

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