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All the News J VOL. xxx vi. - pl>T/*i I'- BY CARRIJ.It Al\ fiLiV'IV Ml,Mill,lt '.'OO. J nJ. _*—_.• i>BR MONTH __/_L__. 1r» FUGITIVE BROKER BROUGHT SOUTH; LODGED IN JAIL HARRY D. BROWN IS RETURNED £?';'-• BY DETECTIVE V BAYS REPORTS OF PROFITS WERE ' EXAGGERATED Prisoner First Exposed by The Herald Seems to Have Fared Badly YY YY During Northern ■ . ' Flight HARRY D. BROWN, better known as "Hurry Up Harry,",, the 300 per cent broker, who was arrest ed several days ago, in Oakland, where he fled from Los Angeles several weeks ago to escape arrest on. three felony charges and who is said to have swin dled clients out of'more than $250,000 by bogus Investments, was brought back to Los Angeles early yesterday morning by Detective Bruce Boyd and locked up in the c|ty jail. The specific charges against Brown Are embezzlement of $8000 from Nettie E. Hammond, who Is said to have been persuaded by the broker's smooth talk to'lnvest her money In his glittering schemes, and the passing of checks for $3000 and $1000 on Joseph Rlttlgsteln, a Jeweler. The checks were returned by the bank on, which they were drawn with the indorsement, "no funds." The warrants for Brown's arrest on the foregoing charges were sworn to before Police Justice H. H. Rose several days after The Herald had published a com plete story exposing Brown's swindling methods. .l\-Y;Y ■ Says Reports Are Exaggerated S According "to the detective who brought Brown back from tile north ern city:the prisoner made few state ments regarding, the charges against him. While the accused maintained a studied silence during the trip he is said to have told the detective that the amounts of money he is alleged to have obtained from his clients were grossly exaggerated;"that the invest ments were legitimate, and that' ho (Brown) did not have any money. As to the charge* of passing the worth less checks, he would make no state ment. . The broker was seen In the city jail by a Herald representative yesterday afternoon, "Hurry Up Harry" was not in a good*" humor, and while showing much outraged gentility could not con ceal his nervousness. Brown was unkempt and shabby. He wore a badly soiled collar, which seemed too small for him and over which his fat heck lay In rolls. A soiled black string tie, looped In a careless jianner, .partly, showed beneath , his louble chin, and , his shirt evidently Ad seen much service.- His thin hair ky In a straggling manner, over his . tartly bald head, and his suit •of •lollies was dusty and In need of press ing. .-- ' Brown glanced around the gloomy corridors of the jail, brushed his hands nervously across his forehead, shud dered slightly, then admitted he was the broker and asked what was wanted. \" Not in Talkative Mood When told that a statement was wanted from his for publication a hard glint came into * his .eyes, his mouth closed with a. jerk, then after a slight hesitation he announced that , he had nothing to say until he had con sulted an attorney. Then, evidently deciding that his re fusal to talk might work to his dis advantage, and thinking lie could smooth over matters by conversation, he pleaded overwrought nerves and lack of composure and asked to be ex cused from an Interview. .."There is no use jumping on me." he began. "I know the papers have print ed a number of stories about me and have roasted mo without mercy. I realize that I am the Under dog and • ask that the newspapers make it as easy as possible for me. • .'"You see, the affair bus affected me considerably and 1 hardly am able to make any kind of accurate statement. If you will wait until tomorrow, after I have consulted my attorney, whom I have not selected yet, I will give you , facts in the case that will place me In a better light. - <.-. * . "I v do not care to discuss my flight from Los Angeles to the northern city. That Is old stuff, and what is-the use in raking up things that have been published before? ->' <:'i.'<. Always Magnanimous • , "Now, you see, lam treating you fel lows all right. I did /not come out here and say, 'I will not talk,' and turn around and re-enter my cell.", Here Brown Illustrated' what he might have done by assuming a sneering manner, turning tin his heel and walking away ' several steps. "Instead I act like a gen tleman and ask you to excuse me from making any statement." ;:: Although "Brown at first seemed de . termined not to talk, he could not re sist the use of his oratorical powers to try to persuade his listeners that he is a near-saint ln distress.s .' ■'. "Will your creditors get their money. " and are you contemplating , any ar rangement, whereby a settlement with! them will be made." lie was asked. ■ '. "1 refuse ■to answer that' question," was the reply, "but I might state that ! I 'do "not think so. I will not answer l any more questions of that nature." \. '-■ "Will you tell something about your I flight to the north—some |of the ! mci. . dents that occurred on/the way?" -,".'.' ... "No. . That is passed now- and I do ■ not I see the necessity of . bringing up all that old matter again," was the an- swer.'.;t"''-"-*"" -_...''.".«'-•''■' "'"-vV- ■ . - "Why did ' you leave Los Angeles? Did you think by remaining j■, away from this city for a short time your" Investments would be satisfactorily ad justed and you' could return when ev erything was all-right?" :"1 . cannot answer that question, I think you people should have some re gard! for my finer sensibilities and not ask mo' such questions,'.'...- he . said sharply: / ■_-: -. • ■ ,'- .. ,'•'■> | "How about that $118,000 in cold cash yon are said-to have carried with you when you fled from this city?" • -.'.. Knows Nothing of Cash -.".;,_ , "Io do not* know anything about It. I never had,that amount.'. The; money I am said to have obtained from my clients- has* been greatly overesti mated.'' ■ t ■■'_■'• - i- H "How, about the worthless chock for $50 you ' are said to < have given as a : tin to the chauffeur who took you to the Sear house at San Francisco, after Via bad aided; you to,reach your destl- .., : .V (Continued on Page Throej 'jA LOS ANGELES HERALD LEADING FRAMER OF SENATE TARIFF BILL ■ ' *3jo wKlllL\mmmm\\^^^'^^^aWmmmm\Wm% ABLE TO TALK WITH MARTIANS Professor at Harvard Declares $10,. 000,000 Will Permit of Talking to People on Planet Mars ', , Yf\: Next July V" (Special to The Herald.] BOSTON, Mass., April 18.—"If man kind cares enough about It to put up about $10,000,000 there is no very good reason why the human race should not be able to talk with . Mars,' and that so soon as next July," according to Prof. William Henry Pickering, Harvard ' university's celebratel as tronomer, i Communication with' Martians will be made possible, Prof. Pickering de clares, by adopting his method of flashing messages, when Mars ap proaches ,the earth to within 35,000,000 miles, or about 5,000,000 miles nearer than ever before. Messages will be easily recognized and undoubtedly answered If there Is Intelligent life on Mars, and that, in such case, hitherto hidden mysteries concerning Mars will become an open book to people of the earth. ' , < _> . _■ —— . STUDENTS IN COLLEGE ATY. DES MOINES ARE POISONED Young Men and r Women Attacked at Dinner by Mysterious Malady - ! DES MOINES, lowa, April 18.—Sev eral Dcs Moines college co-eds and several male students, were stricken to day with some mysterious poison at dinner at the Kamaraderle and Altruist clubs. One may die. The milk used was ex amined by State Chemist _ rlsbio and State Dairy Commissioner H. ' R. Wright, but no trace of ptomaine was found. P. J. Collins fell in convulsions at the door of his room and was stricken blind. It was feared at first he would die. Seven of the victims are in a pre carious condition. THE NEWS SUMMARY FORECAST For Los Angeles and vicinity: Cloudy Monday; showers in the moun tains; moderate west wind. Maximum temperature yesterday, 62 degrees; minimum, 54 degrees. YYY' / " • .■;• l_K_.li ;■ YY V Bakers declare raise In flour warrants In crease, In price of bread.' Harry D. Brown brought from Oakland and placed in county Jail. ; V Robbers mounted on bicycles rob man In buggy. ■• ...'■-. V .. Woman's ' league Incorporated to raise age of marriage of girls In India.' ,* Eastern Insurance company to loan millions on real estate in California. Woman dies In hospital from burns received through tripping while carrying lighted lamp. UatemanVfor Southern Pacific railroad found dead In his room. V V COAST Torpedo boats return from Magdalena bay, where warships are at target practice, and re port Seebree's flagship Tennessee will give the Pennsylvania : close run for. first honors In firing. , :•- .-'•.' " ,-. 'Admiral Evans at San Francisco pleads for more battleships, declaring both coasts i>f the United states should be protected, as It would bo impossible to bring fleet through Panama canal In time of war.- ■.'.,... Walter at San Francisco walks Into under taker's parlors and fires bullet into his head, dying instantly. .' Pioneer member of bar of California dies at Oakland. .'■ " i •' Carpenter at Oakland trnds baby wrapped in „,.,..,.,,o_- and trios ,to j sell It for meat, at mtaaraat. . i .V * :• _i_i-v__ accomplice of man arrested for rob bing Thompson Brldgo company at San Fran cisco Hill be captured".' -' ', Y. , KASTKRN ,' - : Tariff debate In senate will be begun;today. chairman Aldrich ,of committee Is .to make opening speech, ; to .be followed by Senator Daniels, who represents the opposition to the bill aa framed in the upper house. - Secretary of ( War Yon L. Meyer ln an ad dress 'In Boston favors equal protection ,by battleships for the Pacific and Atlantic. , Petroslno's body at, Long Island Is under guard, as It is feared body will be stolen. - jj Farmer, who failed to list all his property with assessor commits suicide. Permanent insanity to be plea of Captain kales,. charged.with murder of W. E. Annls last August at «Flushing, 1,. 1.,;, ■V .-;." ' FOREIGN , . Colonel Augur of Tenth cavalry, stationed at Fort MoKinley in the Philippines, seized with apoplexy at meeting of r regimental officers, dies several hours later.'..- . -i-, ' i ■"'■ Wife of, former President Castro arrives off foil I.lmon, Costa Rica, but says the will not dlsemhark. .;' • „'■■ -■'■'" • '■>*■'<, C« '■ ■• _•■!• Many persons are killed in uprising in Tur key and threo French .warships arc- way to Merslno. ... --- ..'-J--'.,''•'•'.'. s•■ .-■,-,-.• ■ >, ' M Beatification service is' memory -of . Joan ,of Arc is held at Borne. ,. MONDAY MORNING, APRIL 10, 1909. TARIFF DEBATE IN SENATE WILL BE BEGUN TODAY CHAIRMAN ALDRICH TO MAKE OPENING SPEECH SENATOR DANIEL TO FOLLOW FRAMER OF BILL Head of Committee Will Show Meas ure Is Strong Revenue Producer, Which View Will Be Opposed v by Democrats [By Associated Press.] .^, WASHINGTON, April 18.—The tar iff debate In the senate will be begun tomorrow Immediately after the close of the routine business. Senator Aldrich, chairman of the committee on finance,' will make a general statement supporting' the bill and will be followed by Senator Dan iel, senior Democratic senator, who will outline the Democratic position. •• Y. Senator Aldrich will explain the various changes made by his commit tee and undertake to show the bill as reported will be a strong revenue pro ducer. ■ Senator Daniel and other Democrats will take an opposite view. They de clare the weakness of the Payne- Aldrich bill Is it will not insure suf ficient income to permit the govern mental business to proceed without the addition of other features. ; The Democratic senators will urge an j income tax as the most rational and most prolific means of Increasing the receipts. They will have the sup port of some of the Republican sen ators, but will not receive assistance from any of the members of the com mittee on finance. . —- There will be In the senate, as ln the house, a sharp dividing line between general debate and the discussion of amendments to the schedules. . May Make Bet Speeches Immediately after the close of the Aldrich and Daniel speeches the read- Ing of the bill will proceed, with a view to considering amendments. If senators desire to make set speeches, even on the general subject of the tar iff, they will be permitted to do so, In connection with the consideration of the different schedules. The Democrats profess as great an anxiety as the Republicans for the early disposition of the measure. Among the Republicans who will speak on the bill are ■ Messrs. Lodge, Hale, Brown, Carter, Cummins, Cul lom, Heyburn, Met'umber, Nelson and Smith of Michigan, while the Demo cratic . orators j will • Include Senators Bailey, Bacon, Bankhead, Clay, Gore, Johnston, Money, Newlands, Rayner and Smith of South Carolina. . The house will b_-» -session Monday and Thursday , only, and no business will be done on either day beyond pro viding for the next census. - I The conference report on the general census bill will receive the attention of both houses. . . The house will Initiate legislation providing an appropriation to carry the census legislation into effect. It is probable, however, that the absence of a quorum in the house will prevent definite action by that body. , The house committee on ways and means will give hearings during the week on the Philippine tariff bill. TO FIX PHYSICAL VALUES OF UTILITY CORPORATIONS Nebraska State Railway Commission Will Take Initiative on Law Induced by Bryan [Special to The Herald] LINCOLN, Neb., April This week tho Nebraska stale railway commission will take the initiative In the task the recent legislature laid out for it of fixing the physical value of railroad, telephone, telegraph and express company property In the state. This law was passed at the direct, be hest of William J. Bryan, after much opposition '■ in the legislature.. . v- The commissioners will proceed on the theory that the law is perfect and the appropriation ■Is to be expended, although it has been announced that the validity of the enactment is ques tioned and that suit to test its con stitutionality will be luted Just as soon as an attempt is made, to use any of the appropriation or to appoint any of the superintendents or clerks need led for the work. \ It is said the law Is discriminatory in that it exempts the South Omaha Stock J Yards company from its pro visions. -. - - - BELIEVE SECOND ROBBER WILL BE CAPTURED SOON Man Caught a. San Francisco Re. fuses to Break His • Silence SAN FRANCISCO, April With every police officer and detective of this and neighboring cities on the lookout it is believed the. second'man engaged in the holdup of the offices of the Thompson Bridge company yester way will be captured at any time. _ : Gorman, the man taken by Patrol man John Dower and John Edner, after a thrilling chase, refuses to break his silence, but the detectives believe they halve a clew to the- Identity .of his companion., -.'■.-' ; James R." Thompson, head -of the bridge company, who was shot by the robbers, is reported to be improved and the j doctors are confident, of his recovery, unless unexpected complica tions arise. Y-_YYYL__-_-__Y Wife of Castro at Costa Rica PORT LIMON,. Costa Rica, April 18. —The steamer Guadeloupe has arrived herewith Senora Castro, wife of the former president of Venezuela, - on board. She did not land, but'sald she would go to St. Nazalre on the steam er. 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' ilMrat^ TO GUARD BODY OF POLICEMAN WATCH PLACED AT GRAVE OF PETROSINO News' of Conspiracy to Rob. Tomb Leaks Out, and Sepulcher Will ' Be Kept Under Sur • veillance .— — YY" • . .- [By Associated Press. ], . ... . j NEW YORK, April 18.— grave of Police Lieutenant Petrosino, the detec tive who was assassinated in Palermo, Sicily, a few weeks ago and who was burled last Monday afternoon at Long Island City, is being watched carefully for fear some of his enemies may at tempt to steal the body. ! The funeral was i one of the largest ever witnessed in New York since the burial of Henry George! several years ago.- ." .;: .A. ■■--"'-.- ; It is hinted a plot was on foot to re move the body from the tomb, and for that reason the streets,through which the funeral cortege passed were guard ed by policemen and every stranger was watched cautiously by the officers and detectives, who thronged the thor oughfares which led to Queensbore bridge over to Long Island City. •.'.-, The news of such an Intended plot was kept secret and It did not leak out until today. For this reason friends of the ' dead officer have decided .to keep the last resting place of Petro sino under surveillance for several more weeks. " '■'_■■; .'■'■'" ' . Nearly 2000 policemen and firemen were in, the funeral procession, which numbered 7000 marchers, including many Italian societies. It was esti mated that 250,000 persons lined Fifth avenue /is the procession passed. Thou sands ,etood . with bared heads while the cortege passed, and many knelt in the street. near St. Patrick's church when tho coffin was borne in and out of the edifice. , . •: Mayor McClellan, . Police Commis sioner Bingham and nearly every of ficial of prominence in New York city were in the procession. Three thousand policemen guarded the route from the church to the Queensboro bridge, where the funeral, party crossed to Long Island city. : ' ..' Y'">YYY HEAD OF BARBER ASPHALT COMPANY DIES IN NEW YORK Paving Magnate Returns to His Home After Trip to California and Soon Succumbs ' • -*-■' NEW YORK,/April 18.—Amzi Lor enzo Barber, head of »the Barber As phalt company, died • early today at Ardsley Park. .. <"' ■■' , - Mr. Barber returned only,two weeks ago from California, where he had been for his health, and a short time after his return he was stricken with pneu monia. '■.'..' v •'.' .-. i .. ; ::, Insurance Broker Is Dead SAN FRANCISCO, April 18.—Philip Bulger, an insurance broker and club man, well known throughout the Rocky mountain and Pacific coast states, died tonight, after an illness of four weeks. He Was a native /of i Ireland and 64 years old. - - _is__sa^_^ MAN WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE SAYS, DON'T V -^^nii'OR*tiRMIA.HISKY ; MA_YSV_LI_., ' Kan., April 18.—Be cause he had not listed all bis j property with the county assessor and feared an Investigation might cause him to be sent to . the penitentiary, James Clarke,' ,55 years old, a wealthy farmer near here, drowned himself in the Blue river. His body was found today. In a note to his younger brother, Stuart Clarke, , the . man stated he ' had failed to list $25,000 worth of notes. . He added: '- >Ye . "Go to church; never tell a lie; always keep employed and never drink whisky." SEBREE'S FLAGSHIP LEADS IN PRACTICE TENNESSEE DOES EXPERT SHOOTING AT TARGETS Expected Namesake of Southern State ; Will Give Pennsylvania Close Run for First Honors 1 •', at Firing * ' SAN, DIEGO, April 18.—The torpedo boat destroyers Whipple and Hull ar rived here, from Magdalena bay this afternoon. They left the bay Friday. 'On their way up the coast they passed the destroyer-Lawrence and the tor- pedo boats Goldsborough and Davis at San Bartholomew bay. The Davis was coaling and the three boats are ex pected to reach here tomorrow. . . Reports of the target practice ' are that the California was firing her-tur ret guns the afternoon when the de stroyers left I Magdalena, and that the Tennessee, Admiral Sebree's flagship, had ; made a wonderful showing , and will give the, Pennsylvania a close run for . first honors. The Tennessee fin ished practice Friday and started north yesterday. Tonight a wireless message received at Point Loma stated the Tennessee is due off' this port tomorrow morning. It is not known whether she will stop or proceed directly to San Francisco. : The arrivals here ; from . Magdalena today' report the destroyers Perry, Truxton and Paul Jones were expect ing to leave for San Diego today and that the rest of the torpedo flotilla will follow as soon as target practice is completed. . " ■ ' • Says Irish Built Churches DUBLIN, April 18— At a meeting to day to raise i funds for a new church at Ringsend, Dublin, Father P. H. O'Donnell, state chaplain of Massachu setts, who Is one of the delegates from the ' Ancient Order of Hibernians of America, made an address In which he said the Irish poor built the churches of the United States. Successor Is Named WASHINGTON, April 18.—In view of the death of Col. Augur, the president has directed the immediate promotion of Col. Madison P. Maus, twentieth infantry, to the rank of brigadier gen eral. r...| Noted Clergyman Dies LONDON, April 18.—Rev. Dr. James Harrison Riff, the well-known Wes leyan Methodist minister, Is dead. SINGLI. COPIES: _-„,___." ,l.'_,_n. SINGLI- CUlll-J-. ON TRAINS, 5 CENTS BEATIFICATION SERVICE HELD 30,000 FRENCH PILGRIMS SEE CEREMONY AT ROME Pope, as a Mark of Special Devotion, Assists at Procedure Which Takes Place of Veneration of , Relics [By Associated Press.] ROME, April 18.—In the , presence of 30,000 French pilgrims, virtually all the bishops of France, many cardinals and family descendants of the .new saint, the solemn ' cefremony i» the beatifica tion of Joan of Arc were carried out in St. Peter's today.. The pope - does not attend beatifica tions in.person, but as a mark of spe cial devotion he assisted at a solemn service, replacing . the ceremony of veneration of relics, of which none ex ist in this case. . ■ '( At 9:30 o'clock myriads of electric lights burst out in St. Peter's and the organ thundered. The long procession of cardinals marched in. ! The Basilica presented a fairy-like appearance. It was hung with red velvet draperies and - everywhere strings of electric lights .were artis tically arranged. Hugo pictures repre senting the miracles of Joan -of ■ Arc and, her statue were placed -over the high altar, but they were veiled. ' The ceremony was begun 'with the reading of the brief, at the last word of which the veils fell. The statue ap peared framed with electric, bulbs, the bells pealed I forth and the massed choirs intoned the te deum, which was taken up by the throng. Many of the pilgrims, overcome, burst into frantic cheers, which were immediately sup pressed. • The after-ceremonial was no less im pressive. The pope passed through the ranks -of ' kneeling pilgrims, followed by his court and picturesque guards, to the altar. After the singing of the Liturgical hymn, the advocates for the beatification presented to the pope the traditional gifts of a basket of flowers and "the life of Joan of Arc" magnificently bound. INDIANAPOLIS REALIZES DREAM OF 60-CENT GAS New Company Charges Low Rate and Will Compel Old Concern to k '-_/' * Meet Competition INDIANAPOLIS, April After years of ceaseless war on the local gas company .this city is realizing , its dream of 60-cent gas, and there are indications that this, if not a lower figure, will be the price for years to come. The new gas company, backed by an ample capital and with all classes of citizens as stockholders, has begun to servo gas at 60 cents a 1000 cubic feet, and the old gas company, which has been charging 90 cents, is preparing to meet the new competition and will have-to do so after July 5 or take its mains from the city streets. Hail Does Damage DES MOINES, April 18.—A terrific hall and wind storm struck Dcs Moines and central lowa today. Plate-glass windows in downtown stores were blown in and cellars were flooded. At Stuart hailstones weighing half a pound fell, doing much damage ito peach buds. V ' *^ CENTS BAKERS DECLARE RISE IN FLOUR DEMAND SACTION WEIGHT AGREEMENT PLANNED ON OKLAHOMA STANDARD SAY GROCERS AND RETAILERS ■ MAKE LARGE PROFITS Urge That Plan Will Not Work Hard. ship on Small Dealers or Public. . City Council Will Act THE small boy figuring on the hf__ and a half, egg and a half propo sition had a nice easy time of it yesterday compared with the Los An geles bakers trying to figure out Just how much of a hole Jim Patten has made In their dough barrel. The gen eral conclusion seems to he that Pat ten on the one hand and the grocers on the other have decidedly tho nub end of the argument and that a weight agreement must be reached to prevent the bakers' profits from vanishing alto gether. Taking the bakers' proposition of selling thirteen 26-ounce loaves of bread at wholesale for $1 and figur ing the cost of making the bread by the Oklahoma standard, which local bakers agree Is a fair estimate, the grocer or other retailer of the bread still makes more than twice as much profit. as the baker. This Is on the basis proposed by the bakers of Los Angeles for their agree ment regarding a uniform weight of the 10-cent loaf of bread and assum ing that they pay the rate of $6.20 a barrel for flour. The Oklahoma standard was worked out by Secretary M. C. Bales of the Oklahoma Bakers' association from correspondence with the leading bakers of that state and was based on the de sire of master bakers "to create a standard by which they can make their goods so they might make a safe profit for themselves and give the customers the very best they can for their money while at the same time giving a liberal profit to the retail baker." The cost schedule resulting was published li the Bakers' Helper of Chicago and aroused a great deal • of comment among master bakers of the country. Says Bakers Lose Money : "Take those Oklahoma figures, which are good for Los Angeles, and see how you will come out on the way you have been doing business with what you are paying for' flour and labor," said Charles H. Bradford to Los Angeles bakers at the meeting held Saturday night to discuss the situation follow ing the rise in the price of wheat and the consequent higher price of flour. Mr. Bradford said a large number of bakers were losing money on every loaf of bread they sold, and this state ment met with approval by others at the meeting. . A baker finds that he will make 339 pounds of dough with a barrel of flour, using in addition 120 pounds of water, not counted in the cost total; 3 pounds of salt at 60 cents per 100 pounds, ac- i cording to the Oklahoma figures; 2 pounds of yeast at 25 cents a pound; 8 pounds of sugar at $5 a hundrel pounds; 5 pounds of lard at 8 cents a pound, and 5 pounds of dust flour at $2.50 per 100 pounds. These figures will vary somewhat at Los Angeles, but if anything the change works against the Los Angeles baker. This 339 pounds ' of dough will make 203 loaves of broad, each weighing 26 ounces, or 406 13 --ounce loaves, although the bakers will not make the latter If they can get out of the Job. ; V Figure Additional Costs Additional costs figured in the Okla-' homa statndard are labor at 60 cents per 100 loaves, delivering at 50 cents per 100 loaves, - rent and fuel at27*i cents per 100 loaves. The total cost to the baker on this method of figuring would be $13.50 for the 203 10-cent loaves which .he can make from a barrel of flour at tho weight proposed for the bakers' agree ment, figuring that .he pays $6.20 per barrel for local flour. By selling these loaves at the suggested rate of thir teen for $1 his profit will be $2.11 on the 203 loaves, assuming that the Oklahoma eos^B apply exactly in Los Angeles. The retailer, however, will make $4.fit) by selling the 203 loaves at 10 cents each, not making any deductions for' his delivery, rent or other costs of carrying on bis business. The bakers who have figured on this believe that the change they propose will not work an injustice to the con sumer, while at the same time it will not menace fair profits by the retailer to whom the baker sells. They are go ing ahead on this basis, preferring to consider any proposed ordinance when it is drafted and ready for definite at tention. The committee appointed to take the matter up will meet today and endeavor to submit an agreement to practically all the leading bakers be fore the meeting at Mammoth hall Wednesday evening. Those who cannot be reached personally will be urged to attend the meeting in order to get a . understanding of the situation, Which the largest bakers agree is a serious one. Driven to Action "If the public can stand for Patten's gambling on wheal we can't unless we want to go out of business," said one of the men at the Saturday night meet ing. The bread subject will be brought to the attention of tho city council to morrow by a message from the mayor, who will Inclose a communication from Sealer of Weights and Measures Green, and ask that the suggestions of Mr. Green be seriously considered. These suggestions are that the coun cil establish a standard weight for bread, preferably two , pounds, says Mr. Green, and that an ordinance bo passed compelling the sale of bread by this weight. "Loaves of two pound., would be about the size of those sold now for 10 cents, but the loaves may also bo a multiple of two pounds or an aliquot part thereof. ■ Before Council a Year Ago In his communication Mr. Green sari that a year ago he called the attention of the council to the fact that there was no standard weight for bread and that a loaf sold for 5 cents varied from eleven .to • fourteen ounces, while the 10-cent loaf was from twenty-ono to twenty-five ounces. At that time, says Mr. Green, the profit on bread was enormous. Flour was selling at $5 a barrel and a rate, war among, tho bakers resulted in the retailer recelv- (Continued on Page Three)