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' 'y\" lAS-//. VOL. XXXVII. NUMISEU HAS PRICE: 50 CENTS gyiiKK? TAWNEY, FAVORITE OF TAFT, BEATEN BY PROGRESSIVE Man for Whom President Gave 'Best-Tariff-Ever-Made' Speech Is Defeated • MINNESOTA HOLDS PRIMARY Congressmen Who Voted Against Payne Bill Are Ail Renominated [Associated Press] ST. PAUL, Minn., Sept. 20.—Early returns from the primary election held today Indicate that Representative James A. Tawney, who has represented the First Minnesota district since 1892, has been defeated for the nomination by Sidney Anderson, a progressive. Anderson carried Albert Lea by 310 and Freeborn county by 200. The vijlago of Lanesboro, Sidney Anderson's home town, sfiows returns of 282 for Anderson and 39 -for Tawnoy. Prester, a village said to be one of tho Tawney strongholds, went 200 for An derson and 119 for Tawney. Sixty-nine out of 271 precincts give Anderson 3800, Tawney 3200. Anderson claims the nomination by 2000. Tawney has gone to bed. Tawney ls known in Washington as the right hand man in the house of the Taft administration. For years he has been a power in congress and is head of the important committee on appropriations. He was the only cons gressman from Minnesota to vote for the Payne tariff bill. President Taft ln his western trip , went to Tawney's nome at" Winona and delivered his famous speech in which he referred to the Payne bill as' the "best tariff ever made" and commend ed Tawney for voting for, it. Theodore Roosevelt recently attacked Tawney in a speech at the conservation congress. . Congressman Prank M. Nye is rea sonably certain of the nomination in the Fifth district over A. Hall. In the Fourth district Congressman Stevens is having a hard flght against A. H. Halbert With about one fourth of the vote in Stevens is run ning slightly ahead, but only meager returns have been received from the country, where Halbert is running far in the lead. - '■■ Clarence B. Miller was renominated in > the Eighth district and Congress man Lindberg. in the Sixth and Con . gressman Steeneruon in the Ninth. Congressman Davis and Volsted have no opposition. Congressman Hammond, Democrat, is renominated ln the Second district and his Republican opponent will be A. L: Ward. TAWNEY'S SCALP HANGS , AT ROOSEVELT'S BELT Colonel, Pinchot and Heney All Opposed to Standpatter WINONA, Minn., Sept. Scattered precincts give Tawney 1178 and Ander son 1660, a gain of 256 for Anderson as compared with the vote for Knatvold, Tawney's opponent ■ two years ago^ when Tawney won by less than 3000. A report from Rochester says Ander son will carry Olmstead county, con sidered the pivotal point in the pri maries, by 200 to 600 votes. - Seventy precincts • out ; of 271 give Tawney 8325 and Anderson 3828.- Taw ney is running behind ln almost every precinct as compared with the primary vote of two years ago. .....'■ He will not carry Winona county, his home, by- more than 700, as compared with 1260 in 1908. If he is nominated, it appears he will go In by the slight est kind of a majority. The flght which led up to the pri maries today was the most bitter iii which Congressman Tawney has fig ured in his eighteen years as a repre sentative of the First district. An derson, a young lawyer residing at LanesboroJ came into the opposition to Tawney late, but Immediately be gan his whirlwind campaign. I It was fought entirely along Insurgent lines. VOTED FOR TARIFF BILL - Anderson fought Tawney as a Can nonite, the only man of the Minneso ta delegation who voted for the tariff bill, and an enemy of . Roosevelt. The address of j the ex-presldent at the St. Paul conservation congress, in which he struck directly at Tawney, served as another bomb for Anderson and ho used it In all his utterances. On Labor day, at Rochester, Glfford Pinchot delivered an -address unso licited. It was claimed, in which he attacked the record of Tawney. The latter's reply to this attack in which he charged Pinchot with improper use of public moneys and with defeating the free lumber tariff bill, proved, Mr. Mr. Tawney's only speech of the pri mary. ' -. .- -; - y , . Incidentally, in that address, Tawney defended his public career, and the keynote was that he believed .in gov ernment by law, which made impos sible the Roosevelt commissions, the extension of the secret service, and the further expenditure of money by Pin chot v '■ '-■ ;,.-'' . S . - Francis J. Heney, the California graft prosecutor, and prominent | Wis consin insurgents, also took the stump against Tawney. HAMILTON CLUB DIRECTORS LAND ON SENATOR LORIMER CHICAGO, Sept. 20.—The resignation of Senator William Lorimer from.the Hamilton club of Chicago was accept ed by. tbe board of directors at an ex ecutive session tonight which lasted from 6 p. m. until midnight. -; The directors also adopted a resolu tion sustaining President Batten of the club in complying with. the demand of Col. " Roosevelt that - Senator > Lorimer be excluded from' the banquet which the club ■ gave to . Col.. Roosevelt -on September 3. LOS ANGELES HERALD N. Y. Democratic Convention Hall at Rochester; State Chairman John Dix igrziis - J - fg t ml__^^Sf_W—^wSm\m9lm. \ • ,fi r *^ff^- *%' £. -j'^'-t^.;;] Wmr INDEX OF HERALD'S NEWS TODAY FORECAST For Los Angelos an* vicinity— Wed nesday; light north wind, changing to south. Maximum temperature yesterday, 83 degrees, minimum temperature, 69 degrees. LOS ANGELES Coroner believes spent bullet flred from afar dropped Into open air theater and killed Gastelum. Niche on bullet may give clew.' PAGE 9 Council Invites suggestions from civlo bodies as to disposal of surplus wa . ter of Owen's river. PAGH 9 Diggers and ■ Piute Indians will hold gtand pow-wow In Yosemite park in , October. PAGE i Charles ' Walsh makes four' successful flights at aerage of Aero Club of . California. PAGE 8 Suit to declare garbage reloading station ' a nuisance begins in court. Physician ' testifies place Is menace to health. PAGE 8 Council ■ passes ordinance prohibiting building of L. A. railway car barns ln resident district. . PAGE 8 Woman's shrieks bring help and she ls ■ saved from man who had seized her. Fellow ls captured but allowed to es cape. ' ' i. . PAGE 16 Mrs. Helen Whiting sees baby for flrst time when infant ls four months old. . PAGE 16 Complete program of mining congress ls announced. PAGE 16 Secretary J. F. Murray of Democratic * state central committee praises ac tivity of Loi" Angeles county Demo crats. .-.' -.;•, ■ PAGE 16 Trial marriage draws a reluctant Ital- j lan bridegroom Into real matrimony. I ■ -.PAGE }, Members of good roads advisory board ' emphatically deny any Intention of re- . _ signing. PAGE 6 George Baker Anderson elected sec retary of good government organiza tion to succeed Charles IS. Bent. ':->.. . PAGE 13 Whirlwind sentiment for Bell for gov ernor found all over northern Cali fornia by Police Commissioner Well born. -, PAGE. 18 Mrs. O. K. Bowden quotes husband's love declarations for another woman and obtains divorce. PAGE 6 Executor of .Baldwin estate files annual accounting, showing- receipts $1,185,- ' 011.60 and disbursements $1,006,350.55. PAGE J Society, clubs and muslo. . PAGE 5 Oil and mining. PAGE C Building permits. . PAGE 6 Citrus fruit report . PAGE 6 Shipping. . PAGE" 7 Markets and financial. PAGE 7 Sports. • ' PAGES 10-11 Editorial and letter box. ". PAGE 12 Politics. ■ ; -- PAGE 13 City brevities. PAGE 13 Marriage licenses, births, .deaths. PAGE' 14 Classified advertising. j PAGES 11-15 SOUTH CALIFORNIA Mayor Barley will veto Pasadena ordi- i. nance against Sunday theaters and | ■ entertainments. " 'PAGE 14 Affidavits on love affair presented In ef fort to secure new trial for man con victed of embezzlement. PAGE 14 ii. Hendricks, held at Santa Monica for passing alleged bad check, raises ' technical question of lack of diligence by payee.. , "•- PAGE 14 Man arrested charged with passing bad check on Long Beach garage. PAGE 14 Redondo Beach chamber of commerce gives annual banquet and dance. , PAGE 11 Humane society holds first sessions of an nual convention, and threshes out ques- I '. tion of rabies. „ PAGE 11 COAST Southern Pacific raises rates on rough green lumber despite Interstate commerce com mission's ruling. PAGE t Arizona man hunters close In on two al- \ ~ lege^ murderers after long desert chase; desperate battle expected. .... , PAGE 4 Minor maneuvers without spectacular, .. features characterize Camp Atas v oadero. - PAGE 2 EASTERN William J. Bryan declines to support Ne braska's Democratic nominee for governor,-, claiming Dahlman in league with liquor Interests. • PAGE 8 General Funston orders I death to all cats and dogs at Fort Leavenworth. v ■ PAGB 8 United States appraisers decide lower rate ' of duty on lute bagging used for patching cotton bales. .. PAGB 8 Attorneys j for shippers probe Into railroad methods of hiding earnings In Illinois ' . Central rate case. ... • . PAGB 1 Congressman Tawney, right-hand man of .' Taft, - is beaten at Minnesota primaries by insurgent. .-'.....: PAGE 1 Interest aroused in New York state Demo cratic convention at Rochester next week. •■■•'.;,' -..-.• . .- ■ ■ PAGB 1 G. A. H. veterans at national encampment sound slogan of "dollar a day for life" *in movement for pension Increase. PAGE 3 Wife of John D. Rockefeller is not Improv- ' ■ ing in health. ' . PAGB 1 Roosevelt denies suggesting conference with Taft, and says he did not ask president . Tor aid ln New York fight.- PAOB 1 Roosevelt accepts invitation to ' address - southern conservation congress to be held In Atlanta October 7-8. . PAGE 4 Both sides score ln Illinois Central railroad "* car repair "graft" hearing. PAGE 4 Arctic explorers are driven by hunger to eat leather, sealskins, shoestrings ami similar substitutes for food. PAGE i Mrs. Charles B. Hughes and '. Mrs. C. A. Swanson are - acknowledged leaders In newcomers to Washington. PAGE 4 Vivian M. Lewis is nominated for gov ernor by New Jersey Republicans on flrst ballot. '.JBJSfe^Jlfef' PAGE 2 Vice-President Sherman meets with de . feat. ln own assembly district. ' PAGE 1 Robert Winthrop Cbanler, la sued for .•• ' • bill of >$987 •by New York ■ tailor. i>y-.iijmßMatfax_4la_ut£: ■--•' page 11 Aeroplane owned by war'department' ln' ". demand for exhibitions. • PAGE -11 WEDNESDAY MORNING, SEPTEMBER 21, 1910. BOURBONS READY FOR CONVENTION Democrats Gather to Select the Ticket for Campaign in Empire State ROCHESTER, N. V., Sept. 30.—Half a dozen - candidates • for • governor of New York will centralize the flght at the Democratic state convention at Rochester during the last week of the month. Unusual .preparations i are be ing made for the entertainment of the delegates,' but the preliminary discus sion is all about the warm flght on among the various candidates and their supporters. John A. Dlx, Democratic state chair man, is considered the leading flgure. "Flngy" Connors will be here, but with less power than ever before, although It is asserted that he will have a bomb to throw that will smoke up the con vention. Norman E. Mack will be a prominent figure, as will also be Tam many's leader, Murphy. WOMAN, AGED 80, MAN 84, WED AFTER 60 YEARS' WAIT Cupid Shoots Second Dart and Is Successful CORTLAND, N. Y. Sept. 20.—An nouncement was received here today of the marriage of Henry St. Johns of Leonardsville, aged 84, and Miss Myria W. Cushlng of Little York, 80. The ceremony was performed Satur day night at Little York lake. The wedding is the culmination of a romance that began 60 years ago. The two were engaged and a day was set for their • marriage. Something happened to . prevent the ceremony, and the bride-to-be could not be pre vailed upon to name another day. She remained in single blessedness and her lover waited for' her until he was 55, when he married another. A year ago his wife died. The . early • courtship was reopened and proved successful this time. , , . FATHER OLLIVIER, NOTED SOCIALIST PREACHER, DIES Outspoken Orator Remembered Through Bazaar Sermon PARIS, Sept. 20.—Father Olllvler, who delivered a sensational sermon at the funeral of the victims of the char ity bazaar fire ln May, 1907, died today. Father Ollivier was a strong and fluent preacher of Christian Socialism. Years ago he made a tour of America and preached in | New York. | The in vestigation of the causes that led to the charity bazaar fire, when scores of lives were lost, developed criticism of the management of. the entertainment and much bitter feeling. v .v- Father Ollivier's outspoken remarks on the subject incorporated in a funeral sermon caused ■ his removal: from the pulpit of the cathedral of Notre Dame. LARGEST FRENCH LINER W' LAUNCHED AT ST. NAZAIRE ST, NAZAIRE, France, Sept. 20,—The steamship France, built for the Com pagnle • Generate ■ Trans-Atlantique (French '" line) for Its New . York and Havre service, was launched here to day. ._^ .* ■ The France is the largest ship In the French I merchant | marine. | She will be second only ln size and speed to the Lusltanla and Mauretania. AMERICAN AT DUBLIN HURT : DUBLIN,'Sept. 20.—Andrew Phillips, reported to be .an American, ;, was i In jured severely today, when an'automo bile occupied '<, by * himself and his son collided with another car near Gavan. Phillips, who is In a serious condition, declined to give his address in America. SHIPPERS PROBE R.R. METHODS OF HIDING EARNINGS Witness Tells How Capitalization Is Forced Up to Fat ten Dividends BLAME.HIGH RATES TO PANIC Illinois Central Officials Try to Explain the Recent Ad vances Made v J [Associate « Press] CHICAGO, Sept. 20.—Alleged manip ulation of a railroad's Income to cover up earnings and to compound its in come was inquired Into today by at torneys for the Interstate commerce commission and western shippers and officers of the Illinois Central ln the hearing of the rate case, now in pro gress. , , Interesting opinions upon the pro priety of the disposition of earnings were given by General Manager Parks. Mr. Parks has told the commission he thought a proper freight rate was one that rendered a fair return for ser vice to the shipper and which, after paying , a reasonable dividend on the capital stock, paid fixed charges and operating and maintenance expenses, and would also give the company a yearly surplus of $6,000,000 or $7,000,000, "to make the Investment attractive to people with money and to give the company a credit." "And what would yiu do with this surplus. Just hold it?" Inquired Attor ney John H. Atwood of Kansas City, representing the general shippers' com mittee. "No," was the reply. "I would use it for bettering the road. For Instance, I would devote a part of It to new depots, etc." - "•• . <"■■_ "But," asked Hfft. Atwood, "when that depot was built you would consider it a part of the actual property of the company, a proper subject for addi tional capitalization, wouldn't you?" "Of course," was the answer. MOW DIVIDENDS ARE RAISED "Then when you later had capital ized, you would say you ought to Ibe entitled to a reasonable dividend upon that capitalisation?" -'- " ..,...-. - "Yes." - '" . - ' ■ . "Then the simple 'fact is, you ought to | be entitled •to charge shippers enough to bring in sufficient earnings, so that you can devote a part to new capitalization and then get a big re turn on It in the shape of dividends, do you? Is that your Idea of what constituted a 'fair tariff* for the ship pers?'" The witness did not answer. Attorney W. H. Horton of the Illi nois Central sprang a surprise on At torney H. C. Lust of the Illinois Man ufacturers' association. He tsked: "Mr. I Lust, will you give me the names of four or five .of your largest shippers?" 16? "Why do you want them?" returned Lust in surprise. "We represent ship pers who pay $150,000,000 annually in railroad freight rates." r "I want them," retorted Mr. Horton, "to produce statements similar to ours, in which to show our returns on the Investment are only 4.6 per cent, and see what the returns are. Do I get the names?" , "We will have a consultation," an swered Mr. Lust. RAILROAD INTUITION Manager Parks introduced a new term in railroad nomenclature"rail road ' intuition." 'He had been asked by Commissioner Clements on what he based his opinion that the present physical valuation of the road was far in excess of Its $285,000,000 capitaliza tion. ■ .■ , ■ "Why, I haven't any exact data to determine the physical valuation," said Ms. Parks. "I depend upon what . I might call railroad Intuition— that's it, railroad Intuition. You see, a man can't do nothing for thirty-five years but ride over railroads, compare property values and buy lines without gaining an intuitive value apprecia tion. I couldn't name any definite fig ure, but it is much higher than the capitalization." Chief Engineer A. S. Baldwin, who followed Vice President Parks, said that because of the so-called panic of 1907 millions of dollars' worth of re pairs, new buildings and "many other expenditures that .it would have been wise to incur and which it was false economy not to," had been deferred and now demanded attention." Commenting on labor efficiency. En gineer Baldwin said: "In ten years we have raised certain workmen's pay 25 cents a day, and as a result we are getting less return for our money. The more independent a worker becomes, either through unions or otherwise, the less dependent he feels toward his employer, the less conscientious effort he gives ln return. It is a safe rule to say that increased wages means less labor efficiency." | The Illinois Central announced at the close of the day's session that it had put in Its case. It was understood the next railroad to present testimony would be the Chicago, Milwaukee & St. Paul. This road will appear before the committee tomorrow. ■• - ,-. JERE S. LILLIS SELLS INTEREST IN KANSAS CITY Disposes of Stock in Bank He Holds Presidency KANSAS CITY, Mo., Sept 20.—Jere S. Lillis, victim of a knife attack at the . hands of John P. Cudahy, today disposed of all but two of his shares in the Western Exchange bank here. Lillis was formerly president of the bank. He will , remain the nominal head of the bank until January >1, when new officers will be elected. - George W. Johnson will be in charge. The Lillis * family, will still own an interest in the bank, however. Wife of Oil King Who Is Reported Recovering from Her Recent Illness \\i** ' '*'*^^^^K^^-' **$r^ ( w\ I t%^t>v__^_«___^^m_^^_f.^^ r.. \ . * • •' ■'?» X \ ||pi^ BBBBBBW^k^^ 'aW SBbB.B JS f 1 4i' X * mm ' 888881 L :-\ ■IB aMßL^.** flj tWLm__-t 4—i*^ mW——\\\ _&ar _w j^^^^b? at JB BbßbbblHl _____ Bmßp mtmmm^mT m** MRS. JOHN D- ROCKEFELLER FAMILY FEAR FOR MRS. ROCKEFELLER Reports Say Wife of Oil Magnate Is . Not Improving in Health ,\ (Associated Press* CLEVELAND," 0., Sept. 20.—Although Mrs.. John D. Rockefeller, wife of the famous ' financier, ls reported as Im proving, lt is known that her family has grave fears for her condition. Her age tells on her, and in' connection with' her recent " Illness had tended to cause apprehension for her continued Improvement. "~ .' Mrs. Rockefeller's physicians are in clined to give out optimistic reports, but these are not shared entirely by her relatives. The latest report is that she is steadily Improving in health after her illness, but she is thought to bo far from out of danger yet TRIAL MARRIAGE LEADS TO REAL MATRIMONY Son of Italy Piays the Game of Hearts and Wins When He Tries to Lose An unwilling Italian bridegroom, his Irish fiancee, an unusual type of "trial marriage," and an angry justice of the peace were features in an Interesting proceeding .in Justice Summerfleld's court yesterday I which . culminated when Miss Kate Murphy became the bride of Demenk Tanga.- It appears from the statements made In court that Tanga obtained a mar riage license August 31, but before he and his fiancee reached a magistrate's court he began talking about "trial marriages" and, his fiancee declared yesterday, told her the license was suf ficient, anyhow. . «, Much against her will, the woman was persuaded to j take this view of the romance. -As the - days . of their honeymoon • passed rapidly In their home at 822 Maple avenue, her doubts regarding her status increased.' Final ly she went to ■ the authorities,! and Tanga was then notified that he must carry the matrimonial compact of which the license was the first legal step to the conclusion ' that conforms to law. The couple arrived in Justice Summerfleld's court yesterday after noon in custody of an officer. Tanga was averse to - the wedding. He offered many excuses, saying he had ceased to love his fiancee, that she was much older, etc., and pleading that he be allowed to go his way and that the woman remain free to wed some one' else. The magistrate was unsympathetic and Tanga turned to the officer who had him ln charge. "You gooda blgga man—you fix him (pointing at Justice Summerfleld), me glva hundred dolla'." "What did he say?" . asked Justice Summerfleld. Upon being told, he looked sternly at the man from sunny Italy and said: . "Young ■ man, you have been ' insin cere to this young lady, and now, ap parently, you Intend to squirm out of doing the right thing in any possible way. ■ You have got to marry her, or else " "Noa, ' noa," Interrupted Tanga, "giva me eighta days to consider." "Toble, I guess you had better make out a complaint against this fellow,'' said Justice Summerfleld. "Me marry! me marry!" almost shouted the son of Italy while showing a great desire to have the justice get busy, which he did. Reaching I the 'sentence, directed to Tanga, containing "love, honor and cherish," the justice read the words carefully and distinctly, and when he had concluded looked at Italy's son and waited for the regular answer. Tanga's tongue seemed petrified; he looked at the justice and then to the officer with appealing eyes, and in the lull the Irish woman by his side boo hooed several times. Finally an al most Inaudible "y-e-s" Issued from his scarcely moving lips. With the conclusion of the ceremony, the justice warned him that if he ran away from his bride without arranging for her support a warrant for his ar rest would be issued- VY'T 1? C^OT^TTTQ • dailt «c. on trains •«, &li> Kxljlll V/WJ. XJlsO . SDNDAIS 80. ON TRAINS 10a SHERMAN BEATEN IN OWN DISTRICT Temporary Candidate for Chair man N. Y. State Republican Convention Downed Hard : [Associated Press] NEW YOFK, Sept. 20.—Vice Presi dent James S. Sherman, candidate of the old guard for i temporary chair man of the Republican state conven tion, was defeated in his own assem bly dlctrict, ] the second, of-Oneida county, and ln his own ward in the city of Utica at the Primary today. According to reports received r.t Re publican state headquarters - the old guard forces carried the first and third districts of Oneida county, and will have the support of fourteen delegates, while the progressive will have nine. As the result of primaries held to day in Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany, Troy and in other cities, and counties up state, Timothy L. Wood ruff, chairman of the state committee, and William Barnes, jr., at Albany, tonight predict Mr. Sherman's elec tion as temporary chairman of the state convention by a substantial ma jority. Lloyd C. Griscom, president of the New York Republican committee, leader of the progressives, tonight de clared Mr. Barnes' claim that Mr. Sherman would have a majority of 55 in the convention was absurd, and ex pressed confidence that Colonel Roose velt would be named. Mr. Griscom said: "The action of the. Republican voters of Mr. Sher man's own district in repudiating him at the polls will have a profound effect on the party throughout the state of New York." --■ "President Taft's letter to me of August 20 fully exposed the misuse of his name and the deceit by which Mr. Sherman's election by the state com mittee on August 16 was accomplished. The voters of his own home have shown their disapproval and voiced In a practical way the general sentiment of the best element in the party throughout the state. • "Mr. Sherman cannot even go to the state convention as a delegate from the district in which he lives." Chairman Woodruff was advised of the results in Oneida county by State Committeeman Daniel F. Strobel of Herkimer and former Mayor Thomas Wheeler of Utica. "They report," said Mr. Woodruff tonight, "that the organization has elected twenty-three out of thirty-two delegates In the Oneida-Herkimer con gressional district, and they express themselves as entirely satisfied with the result, in view of the tremendous flght made against them. "Mayor Wheeler said Mr. Sherman would head . the delegation from the First congressional district, and I have no doubt that he will be elected chair man of the state convention by a sub stantial majority." BARNES CLAIMS SHERMAN HAS MAJORITY FOR GAVEL New York Leader Says the Vice President Has 55 to Good ALBANY, Sept. 20.—A clear major ity of fifty-five votes for the selection of Vice President Sherman as tem porary chairman of the Republican state convention over Colonel Roosevelt was claimed tonight by William Barnes jr. as a result of the up state primaries today. Mr. Barnes, who has been leading the fight of the "old guard," declared the real contest at Saratoga will be ln the committee on resolutions. This committee will consider tho question of direct nomination. • Mr. Barnes gave out this statement: "Mr. Roosevelt was defeated in the state committee by a vote of 20 to 15, and then Mr. Sherman was unanimous- ly chosen as the temporary presiding officer/ by the state committee. To question - that determination on the floor of the convention ls equivalent to bolting a nomination. "This is known as 'political welch ing,' and ■ had Mr. Roosevelt defeated Mr. Sherman in the state committee that would have been the end of that controversy. Mr. Roosevelt has not acted as Mr. Sherman would have done (Continued an Van* Twos. Z^. CENTS T. R. DENIES THAT PRESIDENT TAFT TURNED HIM DOWN Declares He Did Not Even Ask Aid of Chief Executive in New York Fight GRISCOM ARRANGED CONFAB Empire State Progressives Have Not Settled on Candidate for Governor ; ; il; NEW YORK, Sept. 20.—Theodore Roosevelt denied today that he haa gone to New Haven to seek the help of President Taft in the New York state fight, and that the president had refused the request. Colonel Roosevelt said that Lloyd C. Griscom, president of the New York county Republican committee, had ar ranged the interview between the presi dent and himself. Mr. Grlsoom con firmed Colonel Roosevelt in this. Colonel Roosevelt gave out this statement regarding the Interview: "Without any sugestlon from m*, Mr. Griscom asked me lf I would ha willing to meet the president,; sn 1 I said that of course I would. He bad at first mentioned New York as tho place of meeting, but wired me at Syracuse on Saturday that it would be New Haven, and thither I WPnt accordingly. DID NOT ASK TAFT'S AID "I sought no help from the president and made no request of the president, directly or Indirectly, and had' no re qi^st to make. . Our interview .was mast cordial and pleasant and With out any question or request from me the president stated to me that ha hoped we would win at Saratoga, and that he had so informed Mr. Grisi his remarks being ln substance thoso attributed to htm in the dispat 'nat from the correspondents on the presi dential train. "Our meeting was enjoyable In -sv ery way, and I was glad I went" J^ust before Colonel Roosevelt starte.l back from his editorial oflce to Oyuter Bay by automobile late this afternoon, Mr. Griscom appeared. He talked some time with the colonel and then Issued this statement: > •■•'..,.;, "I suggested to Mr. Roosevelt thai he, meet and talk with the president. Mr. Roosevelt said he would be delig '. 1 to do so. There was no mention n i>:o by either of us of any purpose in the meeting. Mr. Roosevelt asked nothing of the president. The president volun teered to me that he was glad to re iterate his views expressed in his letter to me of August 20 regarding the situa tion of the Republican party in I New York, and stated to me substantially what has appeared in the newspapers as telegraphed from the presidential train. The meeting was most cordial in every respect" ■. < . : '-. ' • SATS IUTBBVIEW CORDIAL Col. Roosevelt refused to add any thing to his statement except to repeat that his meeting with the president had been very pleasant, and that Presi dent Taft had been entirely cordial ta manner. •.■■ f> Mr. Griscom was emphatic In saying that Col. Roosevelt had nothing to do with theStrrangements for the Inter view and had not suggested It. . - Col. Roosevelt has established head quarters at Saratoga. . He said today that C. V. Collins, state superintendent of prisons, whom he has announced will be his right-hand man, has/ en gaged the flrst floor of a cottage. ( The colonel will leave New York for Saratoga at 12:45 p. m., Monday. There were a number of visitors to his office today with whom he talked politics, but the colonel had nothing to say on the state situation. He took luncheon with Reginald Post former governor of Porto Rico, and with J. H. McFarland of Harrlsburg, Pa., presi dent of the American Civic association. It was learned the flght of the Roose velt forces at Saratoga is to be an open one and that no candidate has been agreed upon for governor or any other office. It is expected the Roosevolt men will go to Saratoga without a slate and that there will be no indication which of the dozen or more men who have been mentioned prominently fop the gubernatorial nomination will receive their support. There is known to ex ist however, a feeling that an up-state man should be chosen if lt is possible to agree upon one. LINES SHARPLY DRAWN IN NEW YORK CONVENTION NEW YORK, Sept. 20.—Chairman Lloyd C. Griscom of the Republican county committee said today that the Taft-Roosevelt conference yesterday would not have the effect of changing in the least tfts) plans of the progres sives in their campaign against • the "old guard" and for control of the Re publican state convention. He reiter ated that he was perfectly satisfied with the result. If the question of an indorsement by the Saratoga convention of-President Taft for 1912 was discussed at all, Mr. Griscom said it was between the president and Colonel Roosevelt. The subject was not mentioned in his pres ence. Reports from progressives up state, Mr. Griscom said, indicated that at least 670 of the ! 1015 delegates would support Colonel Roosevelt for the tem porary chairmanship, while the ' "old guard" leaders claim about 660. ROOSEVELT WILL ADDRESS NATIONAL G. 0. P. LEAC 3E. NEW YORK, Sept. Annou co ntent was made today that Colon! Theodore Roosevelt would address +t.* National Republican league con 1 tlon ln Carnegie hall in this city Bept 30. . President Taft will speak at the ban quet to be given Saturday night. Oct. 1, at the Hotel Astor ln connection with the convention. <■ ■, 1' Vice President Sherman will be 'mo ther guest at the banquet ••. -.