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PART IT SPACE ALLOTTED FOR NEW YORK AUTO SHOW Eighty-Three Manufacturers Will Have Exhibits in Madison Square Garden Drawing for space for the eleventh national automobile show to be held In Mndlson Squaro Burden January 7 to 21, 1911, was the molt Important business trnnsneted at a mooting of the board of manager! of the Asso ciation of Licensed Automobile Man ufacturers, hold yesterday at the head quarter* of tho association, 7 Kast Forty-second streot, Now York At present there aro eighty-three manufacturer* and Importers licensed un<li<r thi; Selden patent, and to house their exhibits It will necessitate al most a complete rebuilding of the In side of Madison Square garden, urliij? structural steel to a very largo extent. The show committco for 1911 consists of Col. George Pope, chairman; Charles Clifton, Alfred HeoveH, who wai added to tho committee recently, and Morle L. Downs, secretary. Tlie first to draw for space waa the Buiek, followed by the Overland, E-M-IP, Cadillac, l'ackard, Alnxwell, Chalmers, Ueo and Pierco-Arrow. Care In the exhibition hall and bnl conles will lncludo tho following makes: Amplex, Moon, MOTCGT, Cor fcln, Bartholomew, Nordyko and Mar raon, Knox, American, Matheson, Na tional, Selden, Buckeye, Mollno, Auto car, Columbia, Studobaker, Walt ham, Inter-State, Kissel, Hol-Tiin. Chad wick, Speedwell, Regal, Mclntyrov Marquette, Acme, Piereo-Kacine, Flan drau, Hupmoblle, Midland, Browster, Courier, Atlas and Dorris. The forthcoming national show will be dlrlded Into two parts, one ot which will be devoted entirely to passenger or pleasure vehicles. This will be known as part one, and will bo held during the weok of January 7 to 14. Commercial or freight carrying vehic les, electric carriafies and motorcycles will b« exhibited in part two of the show drulng the pt.riod of January 18 to 21 Inclusive. Comprehensive dis play of accessories will be exhibited at both periods. An elaborate plan of decoration has been devised by the Rhow committee, which has been working for months on details to mako noxt year's event eclipse even tho show of last January, which was considered the best ever held In this country. It Is to be won dered at that sufficient space to ac commodate all the exhllbtors could be squeezed out of the garden for the ■howl of next January. In the near future a meeting will be held at which will be allotted space to the accessory dealers and exhibitors of commercial or freight-carrying cars, electric vehicles and motorcycles, which will comprise part two of the show. QUICK AUTO RUN TO SAN DIEGO BY LOCAL OWNER OF THOMAS Recently O. H. KleXer, wholesale find retail liquor dealer, accompanied by Mrs. Klefer and Mr. and Mrs. B. Woodward, left Los An gelea In their Thomas Flyer 6-40 touring car for Ban Diego, going by the Inland route, stopping at Riverside and other places. The actual running time for the entire distance They remained In Son Diego until the 7th Instant, visiting such places as Tla Juana. Ocean Beach, Coronado and all other local points. They returned to Lob Angreles^la the coast route, and Mr. Klefer reports-«nat they dldlnot experience any trouble whatever with their Thomas car. -^j" We Deliver the Goods Two-Ton, 40-H.P. Buffalo Truck Most Reliable Most Simple Most Economical Most Capable All sizes. Gasoline and Electric Prompt delivery. Write, phone or call for our estimator and save money. Buffalo Motor Truck Company 317-321 San Fernando Building;. Both Phones """~ \\_ < (1/ CSvD Glh ~•: 1 I ' / '"OMT tN» Earl Method l=t^==J-=> Of Changing an Open Front Body to a Fore Door Conforming to all the requirements at a small cost. You may be dissatis fied with your old body after seeing: the advantages of the latest styles. Let us show you how easily these changes can be made. Do not sacrifice a $2000 or $3000 car to get a new body. -»If you will simply say that you will talk It over we will send a man that knows. Earl Automobile Works ' 1320 South Main Street ' Eos Angeles, CaL New Studebaker-Garford Trying Out Santa Monica Course Near Soldiers' Home '•! '*' '■■'■ ' •:.'..'•■■ ''''.'*;':•-: '■■, ■•■ •■■ ■,■ '. ..'■? ■■]■,-'-■'-;'.■.;■■■'.''-■,-■■'• ' '&■.£ *: ■*■'■■:■"■' ■'I 1' 1:' ■■■' '»■ V.'.-^V-v'l ■*.'.""■>' ft :* ■';''r.':-,•:■/:■. .-..-■... '" ". *^^ . ■ ,'''':."":'. .■ .■ '.- x .":■]'■ ■]'' ''■■■'■}.■:' .'.-■■■ ■< '-,■ '■;'■■ '■■ i;..'; ■ . "';'■■ ly. :]/'.'■. ':■ ■' i:,::.., NATION INTERESTED IN GOOD ROADS PROBLEM Highway and Park Commission ers Working in Harmony with Automobile Associations Solving the roads problem which has followed In the wako of the automo bile, and the consequent greater use of tho highways. Is not us difficult by far as seemed to be the case In the early days of tho coming of the motor-driven vehicle, which now finds its need even gnnter on farm than in city and town. The highway traveler who goes a distance is primarily interested In the Improvement and maintenance of city ■treeta, pork roads and trunk lines connecting the various centers of pop ulation, as in pr.-iotlcally every tour It is necessary to pass over these three classes of highways, and It is partic ularly aggravating in many instances when entering a city to find an Intoler able condition of the city streets that destroys very largely the pleasure of motoring. In many Instances this con dition Is due to lack of foresight in pro viding sufficient funds by the city authorities, and also to lack of knowl edge of how to make the proper re pairs, although the official In charge Is almost Invariably anxious and willing to properly Improve and repair the streets of his municipality. It is not unusual In motoring through the many beautiful parks sit uated near large cities in this country to travel over park roads which wore formerly smooth and pleasant, but are now filled with holes, or dusty and muddy, all showing the effects of Ill considered methods of dust preventa tlves. The various park commissioners throughout the country are no doubt anxious and willing tha^ their roads LOS ANGELES HERALD: SUNDAY MORNING, OCTOBER 2, 1910. and boulevardl be dustless, smooth and pleasant to travel over, but there an: so many different methods of treating these roadß that unless these park com rhlssloners have made a special Ktudy of the subject, they are apt to adopt ways of improving these roads which have proved failures, and which add to, rather than lessen the discomforts to which the user of the road la put. It has frequently been said that the money which has been expended out side of the cities and villages on the Improvement of the so-called stata rot'ids, or main trunk lines, is wasted because the roads are not properly maintained after being built. In many Instances the criticisms are well found ed, and the millions of dollars ex pended on road construction have be^n as good as squandered, because tho roads have been allowed to deteriorate and to. wear out without being properly cared for. The system adopted In France Is known as tho patrol system, and the samo method has been adopted In New York state, where over 2500 miles of macadam ronrtg have been constructed and about 800 patrolmen are at work repairing all the minor defects fn the highways. Each patrolman covers about five miles of territory. He Is provided with a horse and cart, filled with tho various sizes of stone and equipped with the necessary imple ments to repair all minor defects. Although thla systo^m hag been In operation scarcely a year, its economy has already been demonstrated, as in the contract system of repairs nn al lowance of 20 per cent at least must be made for the contractor's profit, 10 per cent for supervision and 10 per cent for contractor's office, clerical and super vision expense. Thus at first hand at least 40 per cent Is saved In the course of making these repairs, and instead of having In many cases Inexperienced contractors to do the work It Is In charge of patrolmen who are retained In their positions year after year and become expert and proficient, not only in the making of macadam road re pairs, but In the application of surface compounds, which alleviate dust, and In resurfacing roads with bituminous binders. No state highway commis sioner can afford to take the responsi bility of expending vast sums of money on the trunk lines of his state without being conversant and familiar with the patrol system. 1911 MODELS OF HAYNES CARS SHOWING THIS WEEK The Haynes Auto Pali's company has Just been advised that a shipment of 1911 Haynes cars are en route for San Francisco and should arrived here by the first of October. These cars, which are of the fore-door type and constructed along the most approved lines, represent the beat that this season offers In the way of refinement. A shipment of the new model Haynes seven passenger cars will also soon leave the fac tory for the coast. According to eastern re ports, these machines are a revelation of speed and power, and are meeting with widespread approval. The Haynes Auto Sales co:npany reports a large number of advance sales of 1911 cars of all types, and the first few shipments will bo ont on almost Immediate delivery. An order tor four 1911 cars has Just been received from Honolulu. MOTOR GOSSIP E. L. Perry writes from Santa Barbara that autoista going up the coast to Santa Maria or farther should take the Ban Mar cos pass rathor than the Gavlota pass, as the latter Is In decidedly bad condition, and that the former route cuts off more than twenty miles of travel. Owing to road work. Acting Secretary Wllletts of the Southern California Auto mobile association states that the best route from Los Angeles to San Diego Just now Is via Elslnoro. the Rainbow mountains to Oceanstde. and thence via coast line. A timely suggestion to road supervisors Is that In cutting drainage ditches across roads that they be cut at an angle, as It means much to the safety of motor cars and lessens the chance of broken parts. I. Q. Lewis, manager of the recently or ganized Buffalo Motor Truck company, re ports their first week's business as a sale of a twenty-passenger sightseeing car to Ban Diego parties; a fourteun-passenger ho tel bus to a local hotel and three grocory delivery wagons In and around Los An geles. B. P. Anderson of the mechanical depart ment of the Streator Manufacturing com pany, maker* of Hallnday cars, has arrived In Los Angeles to look after all work for customers. His headQuarters will be nt the garage and salesrooms of the newly In corporated Halladay Motor Sales company. The now edition of Thorpe-Hamilton road maps shows ti3oo miles of good auto roads In California, Oregon, Nevada and Arizona. Lester M. Dull, assistant sales manager of the Parry Automobile company of In dianapolis, Is on a business trip to the local agency of Horlne-ftrooks Motor Car company. Mr. Dull was driver of his com pany's oar In the recent GUdden tour. Thomas M. Hanlon of the Hupp Motor Car company, Detroit, Is In Los Angelos on an Inspection trip of all coast agencies. Poerr-Brown Motor Car company received wire from Joe Nlkrent late Friday that ho arrived safely at Phoenix on his practice trip with the Knox car which Is entered in the Los Angeles-Phoenix race. Seven hundred miles overland In an E-M-F touring car on an extended hunting and fishing trip from Sebnstapol to Eureka and return without one cent's expense for upkeep, after having already driven his machine more than 6000 miles. Is the rec ord of Ooorge D. Sanborn, a prominent real estate man of Sonoma county. The record so Impressed Sanborn that he at once pur chased a second car of Uie same make, which he has long needed In his business on account of the increase of business he has dona since this first machine. I. W. Hellman of this city reported to Manager Lemmon of the Firestone Tire and Rubber company that he has Just worn out one of the rear Firestone casings on his Rtudoliakor car after 9500 miles service. The last 1000 miles were run on the bare fabric just to see how lons the tire would last In that condition. The mate to this one on the left rear of the machine has run exactly the same number of mllea and looks food for 8000 miles more. Announcement Is made that the Garford company of Elyrla. 0.. and the Kissel Motor Car company of Hartford, \V!s., have Just been granted licenses under the Solden patent number 649.160. There are now eighty-three different makes of car* AGREES WITH BUTLER ABOUT AUTO SHOW Unsurpassed as Educational Ex hibits for the Public's Benefit Th« national road races at ElKln, 111., aid ! more than demonstrate tho meriu of the cars and drivers, according to Will 11. Brown, vice president of the Willys-Overland company. "It was the means of bringing automobile men of the trade together aa at a Bhow, and plans for the winter's activities were discussed and given an Impetus," Bays Mr. Brown. Chairman of the A. A. A., H. M. Butler, de clared that the outlook for this winter Is good, i and that the annual shows will he more at- I tractive than ever before. The contest wason | Is now drawing to a close and the mind and activities of tha trade men turn to the Indoor exhibitions. "I agree with Mr. nutler that an outdoor show could not well bo held, although ther« i are arguim-nts In favor of It. One big point made by Mr. Butler is that during the winter months the automobile show affords an ave nue through which the attention of the publla | can be directed and sustained in the automo- i bile. Then, too, during the winter months persons do not object to being indoors and enjoy the comfort and educational benefits of walking around the displays. Factories to day produce attractive exhibits and beautifully polished chassis that give the dealer* an Ideal chance to explain with deliberation the merits of the various makes. "An outdoor show In the autumn would com* before the new models were ready, and It would also call for some kind of contests. Such contests would detract from the educa tional exhibits, would excite the spectators and make it hard for them to get down to 'brass tacks' In tho study of cars. "I believe with Mr. Uutlcr that thU will bs a great year for shows. One big problem must be solved, that of buildings large enough. I do not favor cutting the size of the Individual exhibits, but I believe separate shows for com mercial and passenger cars advisable." THREE SALES IN THREE DAYS, REPORT OF SAN DIEGO AGENCY An indication of the healthy condition of tho automobile business In San DleKo Is shown by a report from Morrow. Loomls & Co. of the establlshlne of an Inter State agency for San Diego county with W. W. Norton of San Diego. Mr. Norton closed his nngotlatlons on Friday the 16th. after an exhaustive test covering the period of a week with an Inter State "Torcedo" on the bad roads and grades of San Diego county. Mr. Norton cold his first car within twenty four hours after securing the .agenoy and in three days sold three more, or a car a day. This Is an astonishing record at this season of tho year, particularly wtth a new car In a new territory. It not only speaks well for the car. but exceptionally well for the general business conditions In San Diego. The lrf>rd Motor Car company on Friday sold a new model 40-horsepower Studo taker-Garford's to B. Getzoff. the tailor. The car is painted a dark maroon with r oM striping. Automobile Directory Amplex , 'Formerly American Simplex) and Atlas. Coupled Gear. Qas-Electrlo Trucks. BEKINS MOTOR CAR CO. W. O. Williams. Manager. 10M B. Olive. FBt»s; Main 1891. Apperaon and Reo LEON T. SHBTTLBR, (83 South Grand Avenue. Main 7084; Home 10187. Autocar M. S. BULKI/BT A CO.. 1810-13 South Grand are. ■•'-- Home 82299. Buick HOWARD AUTO COMPAWT. 1144 South Olive street. Main 6777. Corbin CORBTN MOTOR CAR OO» 1017-1* South Olive st Home AlOO7. Glide 46-h. p. "1911" models. 12000 f. o. b. rao tory. After ten years made and sold on the basis as any other staple commodity. SHAFER-GOODE MOTOR CO., Tenth and Olive. Broadway 19311 F2S7S. Kissel Kar "ASK ABOUT KISSBL FBRVICTI," ■ ■.". THB KISSEL AUTOMOBILE CO,. 1248 8. Flower St. F2637. Knox DOJSRR-BROWN CO.. 1138 South Main St. Main 7868; Home FBB4T. Locomobile LOS ANOBLHS MOTOR CAR CO, Ploo and Hill streets. Main 1514; Home 24884. Maxwell MAXWBLL-BRISCOB-LOS ANaBLBH CO., 13J1 South Main street. Bdway. 4089; Home 35764. National "40" * ARNAZ MOTOR CAR CO. Cor t Washington and Main straits, > Home 82927. Regal Fully Equipped $1500. Factory Equip ment (ISBO. 1 810 FOUR AUTOMOBILB CO.. C. 8. Anthony. Propr. - 101T-H ,fl. Olive. Home PJIBBI. Studebaker-Garford "40" " E M. F. SO; FLANDERS It. /- ■'". LORD MOTOR CAR CO.. 1081 South Olive st. - Vain *«7.0 i Horn. 10841 and so we have had to move to our Wagon and Implement store at 200 North LO9 Angeles street, where we are crowded for room. This has determined us even more forcefully than before to sell all Davis, Westcott and Whiting Cars At Thoroughly Cut Prices It's not a question of how much profit—or of any profit at all—but it IS a question of HOW QUICKLY WE CAN SELL OUR STOCK. These cars are brand new, have never been driven a mile, but they MUST go. We haven't room to handle them and are giving up the automobile part of our business for the season. Unprecedented New-Car Bargains Newell Mathews Co, Note the Addrese | 200 Nortll LOS AngdeS St^t I Note the Address" ( ~" % Sixteen models to select from. All good, but varying in price from $1150 to $2650. The Toy Tonneau 30 h. p. is a beauty at $1650. HALLADAY MOTOR CAR CO. 1224-26-28-30 South Olive Street j REO AND APPERSON Did It Ever Occur to You ■. - •"' - - that a line of hot air talk is a mighty poor substitute for value received in an automobile? ... I might take up a whole page In claiming that mv line 13 the best ever, but that would not make trie cars any better. My claims In behalf of the Reo and Apperson are simply what the cars have done and what they will do for you. I wouldn't take a dollar of any man's money that was not offset by 100 cents or more of value in the car. I can make Immediate delivery of the following cars. You will cave time and money by selecting one of them: Immediate Delivery *£****«*- $1400 Babr b Re. [ $ 550 Reo'Thirty $1400 Apperson IJttle Jack $3200 Roadster #I*UU i-Fassenger «. f^rj.!; Reo Twenty Touring $1100 jiSf™ 011 Bmb T $2150 LEON T. SHETTLER «•»» 633 SOUTH GRAND AVENUE ' «■*» Los Angeles San Diego : -■>■■ - '..'.:,),. „}" •■-: Member Licensed Dealers' Association of Ix>s Angeles, Member Automobile Dealers' Association of Southern California. .^___^__ J^ Have You a Second-Hand Car You Want to Dispose Of? Let us sell it for you. We are going in the second-hand auto mobile business and would like your help. If your car is in good shape for demonstration bring it in and we will sell it for you. We have a number of orders on our books, so be quick. Are any of your springs faulty? Yes? Well, Mr. Wm. M. Conklin will repair them, just like new. He has a thoroughly equipped blacksmith shop installed here. Don't forget we have the largest and best garage and best equipped machine shop on the coast. 23233222££ Pacific Motor Car & Aviation Co. 1217-31 SOUTH FLOWER ST. 60151. Main 8680. Open day and night. "AMPLEX" Cars Are All Equipped with SELF STARTERS Watch for Our 1911 Announcement "AMPLEX" Bekins Motor Car Company W. O. Williams, Manager. 1026-1028 SOUTH OLIVE STREET Phones: F3635. v Main 1691. Inter-State 1911—40 H. P. I COMFORT, above all other features. Is demanded and due the users of a motor I car. Before absolute comfort and se -1 curity there must be a perfect mechan ism, long wheel-base and good springs. Inter State combines all these and th» i sense of security and comfort In driving: : one Is not excelled in any car at any j price. ABU/ITT to climb any grade easily, to > go through sand without laboring, to I show extreme speed when desired, and to do It all quietly, easily and without fuss spells ability In a car. Inter State gives you this In every sense of the word. In driving one you always feel that you have power in reserve—and you have. SERVICE—There Is one owner of a 1809 Inter State that has been over the road between I/O* Angeles and Bakers field nearly every week for over a year, beside using his car constantly at both ends of the line, and he has never had It In a shop for thing except occa ilonal tire repairs. lie states that he docs not believe there Is another make of car In Los Angeles that would have stood the work he has done with his Inter State. Tins IS SERVICE, and the kind of service that figures In dollars and cents. Torpedo, with special equipment, $2150. Touring car, noml-tonneau, three and four-passenger Roadster, (1900. Price* f. o. b. Los Angeles, Cul. Morrow, Loomis & Co. 957 South Olive St.. Los Angeles. A 5943. New Sales Department l . € i ——A. ! The Duroe.-.r Mfgr. Co. wishes to an nounce the opening of a City Sales De partment on Auto Row. The North Show Room of the Whito Garn-je, at 806-810 South Olive street, will hereafter be the home of the Duro City Sales Dept., where the latest mod els "of the Durocars will re found, also demonstrators and salesmen, who will bo at your service. Visitors are always welcome at tho Durocar factory, where you can sea the Durable Duro built and know what kind of material is used. Durocar Mfg. Co. Factory—93s-939 S. Los Angeles St. City Sales Dept.—Blo S. Olive St., L. A. MBxeluslve features of tfas UJT M. JL "•■•—JUwrra gaso- [VI lla* tank, self raW XTX stand) nrmec engine, two alUag «j stems i either V or flat belts i quick detaohabte rear guard) adjustable puUeyst roller bearlng engine ufree engine cluichi **—- Une strainer. Coast distributor, lAN- . OOLN IHHXAKI>. MM a. 2Utm •**•«*• 3