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EwvJRKDtYSdMTALc fll lA fill TYIV M VV'lflr weather forecast I eT; YErtV' LTuiseuJery "wZtwoSiVl 3 V & I F I I :T M il Idl 'fl Wcather ndi"t,on' for gd.n and vicinity: ;K March, 6.12!46.22.c JU Jf JLJ jf jfy I F VV 4 V'V "V warmed rr toni9llt; Thursday cloudy and 0 EARLESS INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE NEWSPAPER r E Fortyninth Year-No. 91. Price Five Cenf. OGDEN CITY, UTAH, WEDNESDAY EVENING, APRIL 16, 19197 LAST EDITION 3:30 P. M K STONES CLATTER ON ROOF AND WILD I MEN SCREAM THROUGH KEYHOLES, I SAYS BRITISH PREMIER IN SPEECH I LLOYD GEORGE MAKES REPLY 10 CRITICISM Says Situation Still Full of Perils No Conference m in History Ever Faced Problems of Such I Variety, Complexity, Magnitude and Gravity r as Present One League of Nations Plan b Saved Time, Instead of Wasting It. LONDON. April 16. The allied rep resentatives in Paris hac arrival ai a oomplete understanding on the grea fundamental questions lhat would ef feet peace with Germany, Premiei Lloyd George declared in addressing 'he house of common toda The al lies had formulated their demands, iin he hoped lhat by tho end of next week they would be presented, The premier made a vigorous attach L upon those who had ' attempted to sow dJ tension, distrust and suspicion." be tween the nations whose "cdrdlalitj and good Will toward each other was essential."' He could not conceive of a worse crime, he declared at ? time when nothing QQUld saVe the wot Id bui keeping the nations together. "It is not true thai the United States and Europe have been at "ar iance," Mr. Lloyd George declared, adding thai no one could treat more sympathetically iho peculiar problems and special susceptibilities of Europe ihan Presidenl Wilson. The premier depreciated attempts to create dis sensions among the delegates. Tho delegates' said Mr. Lloyd Geor.ce. had never forgotten what France had gone through and thej had not lorgotten lo what shew as entitled - -not merely security against a repe i i i ion of the German attack, but to feel a sense of security against it. The conference had come to a unani mous conclusion on all the questions before it, including a decision that to publish the peace terms before they were discussed with the enemy would be a first class blunder. Their pre mature publication, he contended: could only serve to encourage the re sistance of the enemy. Mr. Lloyd George denied lhat he was trying to escape the declarations he made during the general ejection campaign. 1 ne declaration regarding making Germany pay. ho declared, had been concurred iu by all the party leaders. The premier said he had not come to the house of commons to ask re lease for any pledge he had given. "I am here to say lhat every pledge we have given is incorporated in the demands put forward by the Allies," he asserted. "We stand by them be cause wc believe thoy aro just. "We want a peace that is just, not vindlc f . five. We want a stern peace because the occasion demands it, but it must be designed not to gratify vengeance, but to vindicate justice. Every clause and every term in the conditions musl be justified. Above all, we want to protect the futuro against a repetition of the horror of this war." The premier said he wa.-? going back to Paris If the house wanted him to go. Whoever went, he declared, must have the full confidence of the parlia ment and carry out bis pledges to the utmost of his power and conviction. LONDON. April 16 There was an house of commons today and an equal early arrival of visitors, drawn by the( special program tor the day's sitting the long awaited address by Premier Lloyd George, in which he was ox- pected to reply to criticisms of fea tures of his course. Tho Princ of Wales entered the house soon after that body assembled and occupied a seat in the tenter of the distinguished Btrangers' gallery where John W. Davis, the American ambassador, and other diplomats also were accomodated. Mr. Lloyd George entered the house shortly after ihe first half hour of the session bad passed. He met with a cordial reception. Lloyd George Answers Criticisms Replying in the bous dl commons today to previous, rriticisms of his activities at the peace conference in Paris, Premier Lloyd George Baid the! situation was "still full of penis fori all countries." He pleaded that "those vho were trying to do their best be let alone," "No conlerence in history," said the 1 premier, "had been laced with prob- 1 1 lenis of such variety, complexity, mag nitude and gravity. The congress of Vienna which was the nearest ap proach to it, took eleven nionih for Us work, ln.it that, eonxre.--' Mr. i. , I George pointed out, "ank iulo insig nificance as compared wiih what had been settled by this conference."' League Work Saved Time The time spent by the peace confer -; ence in framing the league of nation's plan saved time instead of wasting it, Mr Lloyd George declared, as the league would provide a means of ad justment of possible errors. "1 would rather leave Russia Bol shevik until they see their way out I of it. rather than see Great Britain landed in bankruptcy." -as one of the premier's declarations. "It s not true that the United States and Europe have been at variance."' the premier declared. He deprecated attempts to sow disi-ensions amon; the delegates. After reu mng to the world-wide extent of the war, the premier said that new states had sprung into exis tence, somr of them independent, some semi -independent and some thai michr be protectorates, and although their boundaries might not be defined some indication of them must be given. Answers Labor Leader In answer to a question trom John R. Clynes. a labor leader, whether ap proaches for peace had rome from the .Russian government, the premier said: "We have had no approaches of ?.nv sort, or kind. None have been put be fore the conference." Premier Against Intervention in Russia. Mr Lloyd George said that it was Ins earnest conviction that military in tervention in Russia would be the greatest act of stupidity. The premier said that reliable in formation showed that while the Bol shevik force was apparontlv growing. (Bolshevism itself was gradually wan ling breaking down before the relent I less force of economic facts. League of Nations. In his reference to his league of na tions deliberations. Mr. Lloyd George said the conlerence might have taken more time, but for the fact that it was setting up a machinery capable for re adjusting and correcting possible mis takes. "And that is why the league of na tions, instead of wasting time, saved time," he added. Hard Working Peace Men. The conference had to shorten its1 labors, continued iho premier, because while it was trying to build, in many lands the foundation of society was tumbling into the dust. No body of men worked harder or in better har mony than tho peace conference, he asserted, and he doubted whether any body of men ever worked under great er difficulties. stones were clattering on the roof and wild men were screaming through iho keyholes while enormous issues depended upon them which required calm deliberation," the premier said. lie asked tor the opportunity for such deliberation lor the rest of the journey, which was not at an end. Questions have cropped up at the in.;., rnnivrrnce which imperiled the; peace of Lurope. but the premiei be lleved that the conference had our mounted those difficulties. Russia a Gigantic Problem, Much as the British government de plores conditions in Russia, the prem-j ier continued, it Is not its duty to coia mit England to a gigantic enterprise In order to Improve conditions in Ri He added: "Russia is a count ry very ea6y lo invade and very difficult to get uul of." There was no question, he oon tinued, or recognizing Russia. It had nevei ht-nn proposed and never been discussed The premier said bis first impulse when he returned io England trom Prance was to await the much-advertised criticisms of him, but inquiries had shown that these wore not forth coming. The reason assigned was, he was told, lhat ho must not expect criticism until the house was infoimeJ what the peace delegates were doiny Premier Realizes Anxiety. The premier said he should not have ihoucht that, in such quarters, facts would be regarded u iho slightest basis for criticism, but he was fully aware there was a great deal of im patience in the world, and he pro posed to addres? himself to the real, sincere, honest impatience which Is felt in all lands. The premier paid tribute to George Nit oil Barnes, the Labor leader, and those a.-sociatcd with him in the plan for international arrangements for la bor. "Then." he added, "there is the great orgaization. a great experiment, but an experiment upon which the whole peace of the world hangs the i society of nations." Blunder Might Precipitate War. With almost every- nation in the world engaged in considering these problems, the premier said, the dele gates were justified in taking some time tor their work, as a blunder might precipitate a universal war which might he either near or distant. After his reference at this point to which he characterized his time-saving process of building up the league of nations j and his appeal for freedom for the eonference to finish its labors without further harranguing. he contlhued I along thi- line tu point lo the dangers I of not allow ing the conferees the e;lnj deliberation they required. "It is full of perils perils for this country and lor all lands perils tor the people of the world," he declared. He begged that the men who were do ing their best BBOUld be left in peace lor else other men be sent to do the work The uHegates were dealing with many iions, most of them with problems of their own, eac h with a dif ferent poini of view and it required ! all tho tact, patience and skill that ' could bb commanded to prevent the varying interests developing into con , tlicting interests. The premier said he believed the ' conference had surmounted these dif i flcultiee but it was not an easy task. Unheard of Questions. I Questions that have novo bem ! heard of before the war have nearly produced a conflict between two of the allied states, Mr Lloyd George continued, and there were a number of such questions. But. he added, after jail it was quarrels over small states I Which had made the great war. He I spoke of the difficulties in the Bal ! kana and added : "One of the features of the present I situation, owiot to tho breaking up of the Central empires is that central ; Europe has been Balkanized into -mall states. Care must be taken lest causes of future unrest be created by the set tlement made." Many Complex Problems The question of Russia was one of the most complex problems ever dealt' with by any body of men. Mr. Lloyd George pointed out. One difficulty was that there was no Russia. "There is an organization controlling central I Russia, but t here is nobody who ran J say it is even a de facto goornm nt! for the whole of Russia,'' he declared.' "Even if wo could under the circum Btances recognize tho Bolshevik gov ernment, we cannot recognize It as the de facto government In Russia. It is Just like a volcano which is still in I eruption, and the best wo can do Is ! to provide security for those dwelling on its remotest and most accessible Slopes, and arrest the flow of lava so j that it shall not scorch other lad?.". After saying that there was no ques-j tion of recognizing the Russian soviet! covornment, that such a proposition1 had never been discussed or even pro posed, the premier said that it was a fundamental of British foreign pol Icy never to interfere with the internal affairs of other countries The gov-1 erument of Russia is a matter for the j Russian people. It was at this point lhat the premier I declared that it was not the duty of, the British government to commit the country to gigantic enterprise in or-: der lo improve Russian conditions,! much as the government deplored those condition?, pointing out thatj Russia was a country very easy of (n . vaslon. bui a very difficult one trom which to withdraw. "I Tvould rather leave Russia bob j shevik uutll Ihoy see their way out of it rather than see Great Brilian land- 1 ed in bankruptcy.' explained the pre- mier, who added that this would be the surest road to the spread of bol shevlsm to England. "My earnest con viction is that military intervention in Russia would be an act of the great est stupidity," he declared. Why He Supported Kolchak. The premier said he might be asked whi he supported Admiral Kolchak and General t'enikine. He would tell! the house frankly, he said. When he treaty of Brest-Litovsk was signed, he explained, large parts of Russia had no hand In the, shameful act and were in revolt against tho government , which signed it. "They raised arms at our instigation , and largely at our expense," he added, "bilt that was absolutely sound inili-j tary policy, because without those or-1 ganizatlons the Germans would have j Bet ured all the resources which would bavi ' aabled them to break tho block-! adc." "Bolshevism." continued the pre mier, "had threatened to impress bv ' force Of arms itr domination over ' those 'populations which had revolted' against it and it would have been an act thoroughly unworthy of any great i land to saj to those populations, 'we are exceedingly obliged to you: you I hav rved yout purpose and we need , you no longer,' and have left them to' the bolshevik troops. It was our dut , since vi asked l hem lo take this step,! to promise them support. We are not sending troops, because overs' Russian thought that if Russia were to be re deemed she must be redeemed by her own sons, and they asked that they be supplied with the necessary arms The premier said he did not consid- NAVY TO HANDLE STRIKE Transports to Be Oper ated in and Out of N.Y. THREAT WILL FAIL Harbor Workers intend to Completely Tie Up Traffic. WASHINGTON, April 16 Trans ports will be operated In and out of New York harboiv. "if it requires the entire United States nay." n was stated offiically today in connection with plans of harbor workers to start a strike tomorrow with the announced intention of miiij, up traffic complete ly: As to the effect, of the slrike upon government shipping generally and public utilities, the nny will not eon $erja itself, at least until other gov ernmental agencies have been utilised. Assistant .Secretary Roosevelt stated this policy today, explaining that ho considered it improper for the navy department to Interfere before 'he rail road and fuel administration had been approached by boat operator? to ob tain fuel. ci that this was a departure From the jfuudamcntal policy of Great Britain of not interfering in the internal affairs of any language, he continued "Our policy is lo arrest the flood I of the present forcible eruption of bol Ishevism into allied lands and for that 'reason we are organizing all the forces in allied countries bordering on Rus sian territory from the Black sea to i the Baltic. If the bolshevik! attack j any of our allies it is our business to i defend them. "This is our policy, but we want peace in Russia. The world will not be passive as long as Russia is torn and rent by civil war. To Induce Co-operation ( "It is our policy to make peace among the warring nations not by) 'recognizing one party, but by inducing them to come together with a view to setting up some authority in Russia which would bo acceptable io the whole Russian people and that the al lies could recognize as their govern meni." He did not despair, he said, 'of a solution being found After declaring reliable information lhOWed that although ibe bolsbevik armed force was apparently growing, "bolshevism itself was gradually wan ing and breaking down before the re lentless force of economic facts " Tho premier said thai when bolshevism diappeared then would come the time to re-establish peace with Russia "We must have patience," h warned, "because we arc dealing with a people misgoverned for centuries. There aro unmistakable signs that Russia is emerging, and when she is one- more sane and normal, tho allies should make peace with her." I . WORLD TO KNOW TERNS Exact Demands Made on j Teutons to Be i Published. FIGHTING AT MUNICH Government and Soviet Troops in Violent Encounter. (By the Assoeiated Press) Details of the procedure to be ob served at the historic meeting of Al lied and German representatives at Versailles a week from Friday arc be ing Nsorked out by the Allied delega tions to the peace conference. It is Impiobablc that the world will know the exact demands '& the associated governments until after the Teutons have been formally apprised of the price of peace. It seems, howeyer, that not only all the Allied governments, but the gov ernments of all countries which sev ered relations with Germany, will be informed as to the details of the pro posed treaty. For this purpose a sec ret plenary session of the peace con ference may be held before April 25 The council of four is at present de voting itself to efforts to settle the controversy between Italy and Jugo Slavia relative to the eastern shore of the Adriatic. In addition, it is de clared in a semi-official French news agency dispatch that the Schleswig Holstein problem In which Denmark and Germany are at odds, has been adjusted by the arrangement of a ref crendum to the people of the province. Violent fighting has occurred at Munich between German government and soviet troops, the latter seeming to have won at least a temporary vic tory. It is probable, however, that the battle will be renewed, the gov ernment forces having been reinforced. Government troops also have been en gaged in quite serious encounters at Madgeburg, where radical elements which have been in control for the last two days are reported to have been defeated. Labor troubles are still prevalent throughout western Germany Czecho forces arc reported in dis patches from Warsaw to have crossed the line of demarcation fixed by the Allied mission in Silesia where the Czechs and Poles claim territory. A clash along the Polish frontier Is said to have resulted in casualties. Mean while the first detachment of General Haller's Polish troops ha6 started from France on Its way across Germany to Poland in accordance with the recent agreement with the Germans for the forwarding of this force. ITALY SENDS MESSAGE TO CONFERENCE ROME, April 16. Representatives of twelve cities of southern Italy held a meeting here yesterday at which emphatic support of Italy's territorial f 1 25 Years Behind the Standard In October, 1913, the Examiner published a sworn statement to the United. States Government of 4731 average paid. Six years later, or this year, 1919, the Examiner published a sworn statement to the government of 5310 average paid. A g-ain of 579 in six years. No wonder the Examiner looks upon the government report of The Standard of 7842 average paid with jealousy and rage. At the rate of growth the Exam- ; mer has been accustomed to our present children will be grand papas and grandmammas before the Examiner circulation equals that of the Standard today. Like its circulation, all the Examiners' methods are a quarter of a century behind times Look on Page 8 for complete disclosure of Examiner s methods. j 9 WEDS GOVERNOR DESPITE PARENTS' OBJECTIONS EJJZABETH S. WRNTMOR Parental objection to the wed ding of 18 and 46 have failed to j convince Miss Wrentmore that he I should not marry Francis Burton ! Harrison governor-general of the ! Philippines. The wedding will I take place as soon as the divorce I of Harrison from his former -wife I becomes effective. Miss Wrent- more Is a graduate Ot the Unlver i eity of Washington and Is taking a finishing course In the Univer sity of California. When her father was dean ot the University of Manila she met the governor-general. claims before the peace conferono was expressed. The congress sent a 'telegraphic message to Premier Or lando announcing that the members of the gathering weer unanimously de of the gathering were unanimously de Italy's territorial demands. Troops Occupy Madgeburg COPENHAGEN, April 1C German I government troops occupied the entire I town of Madgeburg on Tuesday, ac cording to a Weimar dispatch to the i Lokal Anzelger of Berlin. It is re ported there was hard fighting with many casualties on both sides. BERLIN. Monday, April 14. (By the Associated Press) It is announced of ficially that German officers will be demobilized and will formally leave the army when the war ministry is able to lighten the economic difficul ties incident to their transfer to civil life. WASHINGTON, April 16. Distinct improvement in the general peace con ference situation was reported to the White House today from Paris. It was indicated that, excellent progress was being made toward concluding the negotiations. SIX BIG UNIONS I IN FRANCE TO : SHOW STRFJiTII PARIS, April 16. If the decision of thj six important unions in France is adhered to, Ma 1 ill be obsen eri by a general abstentation from work. The delegates of these unions tho railroad workers, miners, dock work ers, metal workers, sailors and gener- al transport workers at a meeting yesterday decided lo unite in efforts to obtain recognition of the demands of the workers, especially an eight hour day and nn increased scale of wages. Delegates recognized that the de mands of Individual unions had been satisfied in many cases but decided that members of Ihe unions should not work on May Dny in order to show the power ol the orgunlzed working classes and the spiirt of solidarity with the unions in a less favorable position. oo AMERICAN CASUALTIES. OTTAWA, Out., April 16 The fob lowing Americans are mentioned in i today's overseas casualty Mm: Died F. B. Melaheimer, Agnllur, Colo.; B. Bruniek, Watertown, S. D. IK Hi I PROTEST Press Decrying Peace Conditions and I "Mailed Fist" I . HUNS WILL NOT SIGN J Shameless Mockery of I i President Wilson's 11 ' "Fourteen Points." m I BERLIN. Tuesday. April 15. ScmV H official French announcements of th ( onditions to be laid down in ihe I 1 treaty of peace are denounced by the B ! German press. Prince von Lichnow I ym sky in an aiticle in the Tageblatt de- I dare? France "forfeits that instead of I leading to disarmament an unjustly extorted peace will bring forth only H j fresh armaments, throwing into th- H -hdde all former armaments, because a mailed fist peaec can be maintained only by the mailed fist." Declaring that a peace of violence must be absolutely rejected, he con eludes: "Nobody can recommence tho war ! against us. Neither can we be starved out, wit hi mi the common enemy, com V munism and terrorism, throwing all mankind back into its primitive state." "No German government can sign such terms," the Vorwaerts declares. "The entente statesmen must them selves settle with the inhabitants of i the Saar valley, where they are thor- 1 oughly German, and they may find thai the sums proposed as indemnlt ! i can not be extracted even if the last sheet is taken from our beds." The Lokal Anzeiger says: "No more shameless mockery of ' President Wilson's 'fourteen points." 1 'can be imagined than the proposed so lution 'of the eastern question. ' "The solution of the Saar question which is proposed, means the covering of naked annexation with a fig leaf," . I 1 says the Boersen Courier. "Mr. Wil son seems to have approved of a plan that would be the most tremendous political defeat he could experience." oo LUMBER PROBLEM GROWSSERIOUS Chief Graves Urges Immedi ate Steps Be Taken to Con serve Timber Lands. Shortage in Natural Lumber Resources Must Be Avoided J Public Must Act. CHK AGO, April 16 Immediate Jed era 1 and state legislation centering chiefly in pubLIc ownership of the na tion's timber lands was advocated by i speakers at the opening session of the Ami rlcan Lumber Congress today aa the raosl efficient means of stabiliz Ing 'he lumber industry and prevent -B shortage in natural lumber ie sources which was characterized as 'rapidly becoming international in it. 1 , eriousne " Colonel Henry S. Graved 1 chief of the United States forestr 1 service, told the congress that Unless Immediate steps are taken on the part 'or the public to conserve America's I forests, it. would soon be impossible i for the lumber industry to regain its mM 'former stable condition. j Colonel Graves declared that the 1 chief cause of the present erratic con dition of the lumber Industry and the danger of further future instability la alm08l entirely ' the private owner ship of forests. The public must take an Immediate inu rest in the timber lands and see that federal and state legislation is enacted which will make for perma nent mills. roresrV development, place timber on the market only as needed, give adequate forest protection and i assure renewal after logging," he de- h M in ,-d.