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; Denies All the Charges of
Fraud Made in the
Senator Morgan Asks Some Very
Unpleasant Questions of
the Magnate.
Would Place the People of the Pacific
Coast at the Mercy of the
WASHINGTON, D. , C, Feb. 17.— The
Senate Committee on Pacific Railroads
this morning resumed its hearings on
Pacific railroad matters. F. B. Thurber of
New York, representing the Board of
Trade, appeared before the committee and
made an argument in opposition to Gov
ernment ownership of Pacific railroads,
and in favor of the adjustment of the Gov
ernment debt, on the best terms practic
able. Such an adjustment, he said, would
be an important starting point for placing
the railroads in this country on a better
basis, and would thus have an important
bearing on the entire commercial interests
of the country. He had aided Mr. R igan
of Texas in urging the enactment of legis
lation against railroad pooling, but experi
ence and the logic of events had convinced
Mr. Reagan and himself that the prohi
bition of pooling was unwise.
Tbe problem now was to eliminate un
just discriminations. Mr. Thurber has
changed his opinion in regard to pooling
because the experience of the last eight
years in which pooling has been prohibited
had demonstrated that a greater inequal
ity, more injustice and more favoritism in
rates now existed than before.
Replying to questions, Mr. Thurber'said
he favored Governmental control of the
bonded railroads, but not Governmental
Senator Morgan asked Mr. Thurber if
from the beginning aboard of directors ap
pointed by the President* and confirmed
by the Senate, and of honorable character,
bad been selected, whether he thought the
Credit Mobilier would ever have grown up
in that company.
Mr. Thurber replied that he thought the
chances for baa management increased as
soon as the management of railroads was
taken into politics. Tbe .Credit Mobilier
was largely due to the Government hav
ing had nothing to do with the owner
ship or management of railroads.
Senator Morgan endeavored to get the
opinion of the witness as to whether the
Government or the private directors were
responsible for the Credit Mobilier, but
Mr. Thurber either does not know or does
not care to express an opinion. Morgan
pressed his question in various forms, but
Mr. Thurber was inclined to believe that
the Government directors were probably
no better than any other class.
Senator Morgan, in his cross-examina
tion, was somewhat sarcastic in his refer
ence to the Credit Mobilier, and finally
Senator Frye, who had been growing
restless, said curtly: "You would never
have had any Pacific railroad had you not
had a Credit Mobilier. it was nothing and
is nothing but a construction company,
and you have the same in connection with
the Nicaraguan canal. It is in every great
public work."
--"If I thought so for a moment." replied
Senator Morgan, "important as I consider
that great work I would abandon it at
Continuing his argument Mr. Thurber
said he believed by a co-operation of all
interests concerned and extending the
time for the payment of the first and sec
ond mortgage bonds the Government
could be repaid in full and something re
main for the stockholders. Mr. Thurber
favored Mr. Frye's bill relating to the Cen
tral Pacific.
Collis P. Huntington, president of the
Southern Pacific Railway, was the first
witness at the afternoon meeting. Mr,
Huntington was examined closely and at
great length by Senator Morgan in an en
deavor to show that the consolidation of
the Southern Pacific and Central Pacific
under one management placed the people
of the Pacific Coast at the mercy of the
combination In regard to transportation
rates, but Mr. Huntington denied that the
consolidation would create a monopoly of
the Pacific Coast business.
After spending considerable time in wor
rying Mr. Huntington over this phase of
the question Senator Morgan produced a
printed copy of the memorial adopted at a
recent public meeting in San Francisco in
opposition to the extension of the Govern
ment debt of the Pacific railroads. This
memorial was largely made up of allega
tions and charges against Huntington,
Stanford, Crocker and Hopkins in connec
tion with the contract and finance com
pany which built the Central Pacific road.
All the charges and allegations of fraud
were denied by Mr. Huntington, who more
than on remarked that the fact of such
statements being made by Adolph Sutro
rata the others whose names were given
was a sufficient indication of their being
Finally, at about 5 o'clock, the other
members of the committee, who had
taken no part in these lines of inquiry, in
terfered with a suggestion that while the
examination might be interesting it had
no bearing whatever on the real question
before the committee, which was as to the
adjustment to be made between the Gov
ernment and the Pacific railroads.
Morgan insisted that he had a right as a
Senator to have his conscience informed
on the whole history of the building of the
Pacific railroads and said that he would
continue that line of investigation at the
The San Francisco Call.
next meeting of the committee. The com
mittee thereupon adjourned until to
morrow morning.
Huntington Forced by Morgan to Slake
I WASHINGTON, D.C.Feb. Senator
Morgan had Huntington on the gridiron
to-day for more than an hour. Morgan
fired one hot question after another at the
railroad magnate. It was a merciless at
tack. Huntington squirmed and twisted
in his seat and presented really a pitiable
spectable. Morgan was well armed with
facts. He had a small memorandum-book
filled with notes. He seemed to take a
keen delight in torturing his victim.
Huntington would affect an air of wounded
dignity and again of indignation.
"When Morgan drew from his desk the
memorial adopted at the convention in
San Francisco and questioned him about
fraudulent transactions of the Contract
and Finance Company, he grew quite in
dignant and repelled the insinuation of
fraud made against Stanford, Hopkins,
Crocker and himself. He said the fact that
Adolph Sutro and others "of that stamp"
participated in this convention and in pre
paring the memorial making such allega
tions would be sufficient proof of their
falsity to those who were acquainted with
the character of these men.
Morgan questioned him closely about the
cost of constructing the Central Pacific.
"Now, Mr. Huntington, this road did
not cost as much money as claimed. Your
directors diverted a part of the funds, did
they not? What did you do with the
money? You cannot show that you ex
pended it in constructing the road, can
After repeated questions of this charac
ter, Huntington was forced to admit that
there was $10,000,000 which could not be
accounted for.
"Yes, nnd you got that and a great deal
more, didn't you?" asked Morgan.
Mr. Huntington moved uneasily in his
chair; his features twitched, he clenched
his hands convulsively and looked appeal
ing!}' at other members of the committee.
Senator Brice came to his relief.
"I object to this mode of cross-examina
tion," declared he; "Mr. Huntington is
not on trial here. The alleged fraudulent
transactions of the Contract and Finance
Company or of the Central Pacific di
rectors or stockholders is not germane to
the question before us. This is a business
proposition and this line of questioning is
uncalled for.''
Senator Morgan replied: "I differ with
the Senator and think it is pertinent to
the matter at issue, whether these direc
tors defrauded the Government. At least
I am the custodian of my own conscience,
and I want to bring cut the facts, that we
may arrive at a conscientious conclusion
in dealing with this important question."
Morgan then asked numerous questions
about the officers and organization of the
Southern Pacific, Central and Union Pa
cific and Oregon Short Line. To many of
these questions Huntington replied, "I
don't know; really I cannot remember."
"Then, why don't you bring before us
.some of your agents who do know soiue
thing?" demanded Morgan.
Brice again objected, but Morgan Was
persistent, and handled Huntington as a
cat would worry a rat. He inquired about
some of Huntington's steamships, and
how they were built and what they cost.
When Huntington explained that half
cash had been paid for them, Morgan de
manded to know why he had issued bonds
for half cash, what he did with the pro
ceeds of one-half the bonds, was it di
verted ?
"I object to this, Mr. Chairman," said
a member, but Morgan soon went after
him again. In response to one question
Huntington said he thought there was no
traffic agreement at present between the
Southern Pacific and Canadian Pacific
"I don't know, though, for certain,"
said he.
"What do you know?" asked Morgan.
"You seem to know very little about your
own business."
Huntington denied that the Southern
Pacific line from San Francisco to Portland
enabled it to compete with the Oregon Short
Line for traffic from the East lo tbe North
Pacific Coast, saying: "It is a good deal
farther to the North Pacific Coast by our
line than the Oregon Short Line, and ship
pers usually take advantage of. the shortest
route. We cannot compete .with them
very well."
Morgan again returned to his questions
about the contract and finance company
and Huntington got nervous again and
looked around appealingly.
Senator Frye this time came to his
rescue. He said that the question of
stockholders' liability and of whether, in
case stockholders had defrauded the Gov
ernment, they should be pursued with
reference to that liability, was one for a
court to decide.
Morgan held his ground and replied
that it was his duty to satisfy his con
science as to whether the question was one
that could be disposed of in that. way.
Senator Morgan, taking up a pamphlet,
said: . • '-'•' :. ;
"Mr. Huntington, I have here a number
ot statements which, if true,, would be
damaging to you personally and to the
interests you represent. I come from a
State which has no feeling in this matter
one way or the other. I shall put these
allegations to you in the form of questions
and give you an opportunity, which you
will no doubt be glad to have, of admit
ting or denying them according to the
In the questions that followed Hunting
ton denied that the stockholders were
liable under the State law of California,
and his counsel rose to say that this ques
tion as involved ' in the Stanford case
would soon be determined by the Supreme
Points which Huntington admitted prac
tically without reservation were that
Huntington, Hopkins, Stanford and
Crocker did own the Central Pacific and
were those who constituted the contract
and finance company: also statements
contained in pamphlet about the amount
of land which came into the hands of the
Central and Southern Pacific corporations
as subsidies, with special reference to tide
lands in Mission Bay. He was non-com
mittal about the amount of water front
owned in Berkeley, Oakland and Alameda,
and stated that to his belief it did hot ex
tend more than five miles.
Huntington acknowledged practically
that the Southern. Pacific Company had
received a certain amount of stock from
Wells, Fargo & Co. in exchange for valua
ble transportation privileges. He denied
the statement that the Central Pacific
cost $57,000,000. Then followed a long col
loquy in which Morgan endeavored to find
How It Would Work— The Funding Scheme in Operation.
where exact information could be pro
cured as to what the road actually did
Huntington could not remember just
who kept charge of the books or what be
came of them, but said he believed
that they had been among a room full of
waste paper and old account books, which
he had sold to a wastepaper man.
Morgan found it extremely difficult to
get answers to his questions. At one point
he took occasion to say that the object of
his questions was not to discover beliefs,
but facts.
It was brought out that the considera
tion accepted by the contract and finance
Company for building the Central Pacific
was stock in the road to the face value of
$60,000,000, . : which was subsequently sold
for about half that amount; also- first
mortgage bonds of the road and all United
States bonds, the total of all having the
face value of j $116,000,000. When finally
pressed to state within five or ten millions
of the actual cost of the Central Pacific
Huntington said that he believed that the
cost was in the neighborhood of $90,000,000.
There were but few humorous passages
or amusing episoaes, but toward the close
Morgan said : ?• y-y :;y;-y>,,y •
"If I were not satisfied, Mr. Hunting
ton, that you were a friend of the people I
should not care to trust you with sdch vast
railroad organizations."
"I am glad the Senator makes that
statement," replied the magnate, "foe the
Bible says, 'Out of abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.' " ',
Huntington did not think that $100,
--000,000, nor half that amount, could be
raised on the property of the Kentucky
corporation, although he admitted that
the stock of the corporation had a face
value of about $100,000,000. The fact was
brought out that the corporation owned
twenty ships plying in Atlantic waters in
connection with this railroad line, and
valued at over $0,000,000. The Pacific
Mail and Occidental and Oriental lines
were not owned by the corporation, but
were controlled by the Union and Central
Morgan again went after Huntington
savagely about the arrangement with the
Panama Railroad. To many questions
Huntington could only, reply. "I do not
remember" and "I do not know."
Morgan finally dismissed him by declar
"I sent for you on the supposition that
you did know something about the cor
porations of which you are president, but
if you don't know the answers to these
questions I'll send for one who does."
The hearing -will be resumed to-morrow.
On Thursday Huntington will appear be
fore the House Committee and will be
cross-examined by Representative Ma
Huntington's Slim. Chance in the Ken-
tucky Battle.
FRANKFORT, Ky., Feb. 17.— bill
to repeal the Southern Pacific charter was
not reached in the Senate to-day, and the
probabilities are that several days will
elaose before the measure is brought before
that body for consideration.
This was occasioned by making a spe
cial order of the bill to repeal the equaliza
tion board law, which was under discus
sion to-day, and in which it is said the
enemies of the repeal bill are taking a big
hand in the fight for the purpose of delay
ing the passage of the repeal bill. Friends
of the repeal bill are losing no time and
are firm in their determination to get the
bill through before the session" closes, of
which there yet remains 'only twenty-five
more working days.
The only danger now seems the delay,
and it is believed the measure is suffi
ciently strong to force its ' way through,
despite the friends of Huntington, who
are taking advantage of every technical
point of parliamentary procedure to force
the bill through the longest • routes
for delay. Mayor Sutro has been
lending valuable aid to the local
friends of the bill by laying be
fore each member a copy of the argument
addressed to lawyers in \ Congress in the
matter of funding the debt which the Cen
tral Pacific owes to the United States, by
L. D. McKisick, and the Pacific Railroad
debts, anti-funding and foreclosure memo
rial of the California State Convention,
which reached the members this morning
and has gone a good ways in showing the
true condition of affairs. • '-..
Colonel John T. Harrington, Judge Ad
vocate-General , on the staff of Governor
Budd of California, is here on a visit to
William Waggoner. He is a native Ken
tuckian. He said : .•;,::'•:"
"1 am opposed to the passage of the bil),
and while I am £ not actively at work
against the measure, if asked, will not re
frain from expressing my opinion."
English Statesmen Who Do
Not Uphold Salisbury's
Ringing ; Words Show That This
Country Is Duly Respected '
by Britons.
Venezuela Declared to Be Not Worth
Entering Into a Controversy
"": With Uncle Sam.
LONDON, Eng., Feb. 17.— 1n the House
of Commons to-day James Francis Hogan,
member for Middle Tipperary, asked the
Government when the commission to con
sider the matter of laying a Pacific sub
marine cable would assemble.
The Right Hon. Joseph Chamberlain,
Secretary of State for the Colonies, said
that the time of the meeting of the .com
mission would not be decided until the
names of the members of that body had
been received by the Government.
George N. Curzon, Parliamentary Secre
tary for Foreign Affairs, stated that the
Government had no knowledge that
Russia had been invited to occupy and
police the Turkish territory of Asia Minor.
Such an act on the part of Russia With
out the assent of the powers, he said,
would be a violation of the existing
The House took up the debate on the
amendment to the address in reply to the
Queen's speech moved on Friday by Timo
thy Harrington. Parnellite member for the
harbor division of Dublin, favoring the re
lease of Irish political prisoners.
John E. Redmond (Parnellte) made an
impassioned speech in which he said that
the feeling throughout Ireland was in
favor of amnesty for tbe Irish political
prisoners. The use of dynamite, he said,
had originated with Irish-Americans, who
were regarded .by Irishmen generally as
being mad and reckless.
All Irishmen, he declared, now con
curred in the belief that the time had ar
rived for the exercise of clemency toward
the .Irish political prisoners. The Irish,
Mr. Redmond said, were blamed for their
lack of sympathy with England in her for
eign complications.
They would be hypocrites if they were
to pretend that they were in sympathy
with England. Were these hatreds, he
asked, to exist forever? He hoped rather
to see the day when England and Ireland
would face the world hand in hand. He
appealed to the Government to hasten the
day of the release of an old and dead mo
ment of passion and madness. [Irish
cheers.] 5
Balfour said that the Government must
follow the regular practice. The quin
quennial revision of sentences would oc
cur in a year or two when, the revision
would be applied to the Irish prisoners
with absolute impartiality.
- Professor Lecky, the historian, was
loudly cheered as he rose to make his first
speech in the* House, urging clemency for
the Irish prisoners.
Balfour moved closure, which was car
ried by a vote of 270 to 107, and Mr. Har
rington's amendment was rejected— 275 to
117. r ' : •." . ,- ■ ■ - * ',■'-.-
L. , Atherley-Jones, radical 'member for
Northwest Durham, moved an amend
ment to the address in reply to the Queen's
speech, deploring the absence i from ■ the
speech ■ from [ the throne .of ;an assurance
that the whole - boundary dispute with
Venezuela will be referred to arbitration
in accordance with the suggestion of the
United States.
In speaking to his motion Atherlcy-
Jones declared that Great Britain had
seven times changed the boundary be
tween British Guiana and Venezuela, and
asked how it could be claimed that the
territory in dispute could be outside the
pale of arbitration. He reviewed the ques
tion in all its aspects since 1814.
Before the motion could be seconded the
Right Hon. A. J. Balfour, First Lord of
the Treasury and Government leader in
the House, interposed and appealed to tbe
House on his responsibility as Minister of
the crown not to continue the debate. He
declared that he was of the opinion that the
continuation of the debate would ' not
serve the purpose Atherley- Jones had in
view, as it would not make ' an ' honorable
solution of the difficulty easier. He there
fore hoped that the House, realizing how
grave the issues were that were j at stake,
would not further discuss on this occasion
the policy that had been pursued or would
be piirsued. '
William Allen, advanced radical mem
ber , for Gateshead, then seconded the
amendment. The whole matter, he de
clared, was a tempest in. a teapot. Gold,
as usual, was at the bottom of the whole
trouble. The country in dispute was a
nest of yellow fever and was not worth
fighting for.
Henry Labouchere, the Radical leader,
said that after the statement made by Mr.
Balfour it was impossible to continue the
debate. [Cries of "Hear, hear."] He hoped
he might take it that the dispute Would be
speedily settled to the satisfaction of both
countries. .
John Dillon, anti-Parnellite member for
East Mayo, followed Mr. Laboucbere. He
said he trusted that no appeal from the
Government would induce the mover of
the amendment to withdraw his motion.
The American people, he added, ought to
have some indication of the intensity of
the feeling existing in the House of Com
mons against the mere suggestion of war
with the United States.
The action of the American Government
had been most patient and forbearing, and
it ought to be made known to the Ameri
cans that Lord Salisbury's dispatch to Sec
retary Olney did not represent the feeling
of the people of this country. He was
glad to note the recent improved tone of
puclic opinion. ; • .'
Even Lord Salisbury had turned his at
tention to insulting a somewhat smaller
nation than the United States. In the
view of nine-tenths of the people of Ire
land the whole question ought to be sub
mitted to unlimited arbitration. .
If the Ministry tried to plunge the coun
try into a war for an unjust' cause. by re
fusing to .grant arbitration, he had the
right to claim that there would arise from
millions of Englishmen and Irishmen the
strongest possible condemnation. [Cries
of "Hear! hear!"] y,^-
Sir William Vernon' Harcourt, the Lib
eral leader in the House, said he was glad
that.the amendment had been moved in
the interests of arbitration, but he did not
think he could insist that the amendment
was the best way to attain the end in view.
Of course, such an amendment could not
be accepted by the Government, and must,
if pressed, to a division, be lost by a largo
majority. If that happened, it would go
forth to America that the House had pro
nounced against arbitration, although he
was convinced that that was the end that
all wished to be attained. [Cries of "Hear !
What the House had to do was to show
that there was no difference of opinion on
the subject. He was perfectly certain that
both inside and outside of the House the
consensus of opinion was in favor of peace
ful arbitration. Their main object ought
to be to express such opinion. It could
not be done by joining issue on the amend
ment. ■ ■ ';■ . • . ' ■"■':
He took the opportunity to deprecate
the ; language sometimes ' used, alleging
that President Cleveland had acted from
election motives. y There seemed to be a
tendency in certain quarters to think that
the United States had acted in a sudden,
offensive manner.-: As a matter of fact,
they had been pressing for a settlement of
the question for the last ten '; years, always
in a most friendly spirit, [Cries of "Hear !
hear!"] . % , I
Every effort ought to be made to remove
all causes of irritation. : He trusted that no
further delay would occur, and that every
thing y would be done to bringa bout
a • speedy settlement. Sir y William
further said that V the points of dif
ference between Great Britain and
the United * States were \ insignificant ■ and
could easily be \ settled by the Cabinets of
both countries, but if the populace on both
sides were allowed to raise excitement
through ignorance of the real matters at
issue, there would be great danger of strife.
He appealed to Atherley-Jones to with
draw his amendment, which was done,
the Speaker checking an attempt on the,
part of the Irish members to continue the
In its issue of to-morrow the Daily News
will remark the gravity of Mr. Balfour's
statements in the House of Commons
this evening anent Atherley- Jones' amend
ment and will add that as a matter of fact
delicate negotiations are now in progress
between Great Britain and the United
The Times will to-morrow say that it
regards as being of great importance the
plan for the settlement of the Venezuelan
dispute sent to it by its American corre
spondent, Mr. Smalley, who says it would
be accepted by the United States or pro
posed by the United States if they had
reason to believe that Great Britain would
accept it.
The plan is substantially the creation of
a new joint commission to consist of two
Englishmen and two Americans, who
would be charged with ascertaining the
facts, and with reporting thereon to the
British and American Cabinets. If a ma
jority of the commission could not agree
on a report a neutral fifth member might
be summoned.
The commission's finding on matters of
facts would be binding on both countries
and would . serve as the basis for subse
quent negotiations between all concerned.
Should the negotiations fail there would
be an ultimate arbitration by a tribunal to
be composed, for instance, of the Chief
Justices of Great Britain and the United
States, with perhaps a neutral third
The Times contends that the scheme
will need the most careful consideration,
but recognizes with' unqualified satisfac
tion that it is such that Great Britain
could honorably accept it. It adds that
the plan also offers an excellent prospect
•of an ultimate agreement.
The chief difficulty about arbitration re
lates entirely to the settled districts, pro
scription in international law counting for
nothing. If in this case international
arbitration could be made to resemble
municipal law so that the fact of long
settlement would count as in ordinary
courts, the greater part of the British ob
jsctions to arbitration'would disappear.
Downfall of President Faure
Predicted at the French
Many Are Ready to Declare That the
Republic Is on the Verge of
J NEW YORK, N. V., Feb', "is.— A' special
cable from Paris to the Sun says: There
are many prominent men in Paris to-day,
Senators, Deputies and journalists, who
do not hesitate to declare their belief that
France is on the eve of another revolution.
This gloomy talk ' has been increasing
for months past. The crisis is certainly
serious, but I do not share the despondent
opinions of the situation which are held in
some quarters.
Important changes are probably im
pending, including not only the fall of the
present Cabinet; but, perhaps, a serious
deadlock in the Government and possibly
the dissolution of the Chamber and the
downfall of President Faure. ' £■*
It is cowardly and almost absurd to say,
as some do, that republican institutions
will be unable to bear the strain which
may be put upon them.
It is some indication of the state of pub
lic feeling that an evening newspaper de
clared yesterday with great emphasis and
gravity that a plot lor the overthrow of
the republic had been perfected within a
month at Brussels by Prince Victor Napo
leon and the Duke of Orleans. This seems
to be taken soberly instead of #8 a joke by
most people. . -
• The facts which are the nominal cause
of this crisis are well known. The Senate
has, two or three times within a few days,
passed votes which virtually mean "no
confidence" in the present ministry.
The Chamber has voted the other way,
and the Bourgeois Ministry has decided to
remain in office. Not only that, but the
Cabinet has exploited the action of the
Chamoer as a virtual vote of censure
against the Senate.
In fact the Cabinet, backed, as it be
lieves it is, by the Chamber, is defying the
| Senate. This raises a constitutional ques
tion which is both grave and unprece
dented. . • y
The Cabinet is jointly responsible to
both houses, and the action which the
Ministers are taking is practically a coup
d'etat. y-yn " '. r
The Senate, like every political author
ity in France, is jealous of its prerogatives.
Nobody imagines that it will do less than
enforce its authority unless driven from
the Luxembourg by a mob.
It is the Chamber of Deputies which is
more likely to recede from its position.
The lower house has nominally a majority
of Moderates, in spite of its tolerance of a
Radical Cabinet. i vs yyy ;yy
The reason'why it refrains from turning
out Premier Bourgeois and his associates
is . that everybody dreads the Cabinet
crisis which would follow. It is the
Radical and Socialist minority in the
Chamber which creates most of the
turmoil in French politics, and causes fre
quent Cabinet changes, until it has come
to pass that no Moderate leaders are left
who are able and willing to carry on the
niovenient. ' '.' -'y- y'-y'y ; " r ' 1 "'
• It was for this reason, and no other, that
President Faure, with the consent of his
own Moderate followers, tried the experi
ment of giving the Radicals a chance to
govern. They have done bettor, on the
whole, than was expected of them; or,
rather, they have done less mischief;
. The Southern Railway scandal, which is
the nominal cause of the Senate's opposi
tion, is merely the instrument which has
been resorted to for putting an end to
their career. . .'',.■
Such are overt facts. At present the
situation is one of delicacy and danger,
but does not warrant yet the despondent
views taken by many politicians.
Sexton Refuse* to Lead the Antx-I'arnell-
ite l'arty.
. LONDON, Eng.-, Feb. Thomas Sex
ton has replied to; the letter addressed to
him by Timothy Healy offering his
unqualified support if Mr. .Sexton
would .assume, the chairmanship of
the V anti - Parnellite party, ,'.-; express
ing that if his (Healy 's) withdrawal from
the party would .induce Mr. Sexton to ac
cept the position he would retire. 1 Mr.
Sexton in his reply adheres to his intention
not to accept the leadership of the party
and details the reasons for his refusal. :
The Daily ■ News .will to-morrow say it
believes that John Dillon will be chosen as
chairman. • , > ...
Thirty Girls and Women
Perish in a Factory-
Panic Seizes the Employes Dur
ing the Rush to Escape
the Flames.
While Others Are Crushed Under Foot
by the Stronger in the Stair
way Stampede.
TROY, N. V., Feb. 17.-A holocaust,
the equal of which never was experienced
in this town of collars and cuffs, this
evening blotted out the lives of probably
twenty or thirty women and girls.
The fire started at 5:30 o'clock in J.
Stetheimer <fc Co.'s shirtwaist factory and
Van Zant & Jacobs' collar factory, situ
ated in the same building. There were
300 girls at work in the establishments.
The flames spread so rapidly that the
narrow stairway, which was the only
exit outside of the fire escapes in the rear,
was almost cut off, and during the panic
that followed five employes jumped from
the windows, three of them to their death,
and many others were injured.
The known dead: Mrs. Horbort, Mrs.
Kane and Mrs. Foley.
The missing: Miss Mamie Danks, Miss
Kittie O'Connor, Miss Kane and Miss
Foley. 'y.-.V'i
The injured Miss Mamie Day, injured
internally and bruised; Miss Lillie
Kreiger, badly bruised and burned; Miss
Mamie Kourke, driven insane by shock;
Miss Mamie Downs, almost suffocated;
Miss Annette Harrington, face and hands
burned; Miss Lillie Onthout, badly
burned; Miss Clementine Lloyd, Miss
Gertrude Lloyd, Miss Johnson, badly in
jured and burned; James Rosso, crushed
by falling walls, leg broken and seriously
injured; Officer Burke, crushed by falling
walls, condition serious; Officer Guy,
badly bruised; Officer Watson, scalp
wound and bruised; Alfred Casey, fireman
Osgood Company,: spine injured; John
Ormsby, .fireman Osgood Company, knee
I hurt; John Poland, fireman Eddy Com
-1 pany, scalp wound and leg broken.
It is believed by everybody, even the
proprietors and employes in the shops,
that about twenty girls were overcome be
fore they reached the street and were
burned up in the building. People who
were familiar with the interior of the
building and knew how limited were the
means of escape place the total loss of life
at thirty. . • '
The scene of the catastrophe was at the
corner of Broadway and Biver street, a
portion of the city characterized for its
immense" buildings. The structure is
known as the Burdette building, is six
stories in height and was owned by J.
Stetheimer & Co., whose factory was sit
uated on the fifth floor. Van Zandt &
j Jacobs, manufacturers of collars and
cuffs, occupied the three floors below, and
a restaurant and saloon were on the
ground floor. There were also several
other minor enterprises carried on in the
building. yr; y ;
The fire started in the fifth story in the
part occupied by Stetheimer & Co. About
5:25 o'clock this afternoon a little boy at
tempted to light the gas in what is known
as the cutting department. This is the
shirtwaist cutting . department. . Ho
climbed on the cutting table and lighted
the gas. Then he threw the match, which
was still burning, to the floor and it ig
nited a pile of scrap cambric. In an in
stant there was a crackling of fierce and
uncontrollable flames and the room was
filled with smoke.
. Miss Lillie Kreiger, realizing the immi
nence of the peril and at the risk of her
own life, rushed through the different de
partments of the building and warned the
employes of the danger. Nothing but the
bravery of a volunteer fireman saved her
from death.
When the employes in the fifth story
realized that the fire was beyond control
and was likely to prove disastrous, a great
panic ensued. The girls rushed about the
room, some of them found their way down
the stairway, others succumbed to the
i dense smoke and sank to the floor, and
some jumped from the dizzy height of the
River-street windows to the pavement be
low. About half of the girls who were
on the. top floor thought of the tire-escape
and found their " way to the ground in
safety. For twenty minutes after the fire
started the scene was the most exciting
ever witnessed in Troy.
During this time there was a continuous
panic, and in the rush for a place of safety
many were injured- The crush on the
stairway was something frishtful. About
200 men and girls attempted to make their
escape by this exit at the same time.
Many were trampled under foot, the ones
who were in front weie knocked from their
feet and thrown to the landings below and
some are said to have been left unconscious
on the stairway. The majority of the em
ployes finally reached the street, but they
were so overcome with excitement that it
was impossible, to learn from- them how
many had been left in the building. Quite
a number found their way out by means of
the fire escapes. The girls fairly threw
themselves down the ladders to reach the
ground quickly, and the firemen had their
hands full in carrying the young women
down the ladders from the terminus of the
Probably the most heartrending scenes
were those witnessed on the streets, y The
mothers and other relatives of/Che girls
who were at work in the fa^or/ soon
learned of the disastrous fire an?' hurried
to the scene. They gathered around the .
burning building, distracted with grief
and fear, making anxious inquiries for the
loved ones. Some of them attempted ,to.

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