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Jerome Gains Mastery in the Thaw Proceedings
Delmas Contests Every
Inch, but Is WGrsted
Letters and Checks Are Put in Evidence
!-2CEW YORK, Fob. 19. — The usual
crowd,' largely composed of lawyers,
filled the courtroom when the Thaw
case opened this morning:. Dr. Evans,
the defendant's alienist, was the first
of the characters ofthe case to appear.
A decided surprise was sprung by
the defense in recalling Mrs. Evelyn
Nesblt-Thaw to the stand immediately
after the court, convened. Mrs. Thaw
looked pale and serious as she took
the stand. She appeared in the same
pimple costame that she has worn
every day since the trial. She smiled
slightly as she caught her husband's
eye. Thaw returned the smile and then
turned to Attorney O'Reilly, with whom
he talked for a minute excitedly.* Then
he returned to his conversation with
Dr. Evans, but for the most part kept
his eyes on his wife, only turning oc
casionally to whisper in the doctors
ear.
After Mrs. Thaw had eat in the wit
ness thair for nearly five minutes Del
mas began his examination.
""You have already testified that you
are familiar with the handwriting of
Stanford White,- said the attorney. "I
now hand you a paper and ask you If It
is the handwriting of Mr. White?".
/ Mrs. Tcaw gazed at the paper, evi
dently a letter, and' said: "It is his
handwriting."
Mr. Delmas handed the witness six
other letters and they also were Iden
tified as having come' from Stanford
White. -^
After a moment's delay still other
letters were identified. Letter after
letter Delmas handed the witness and
she identified each one. She took the
letters • in her hand and glanced at
each before she returned It to the at
torney. When Mrs. Thaw had identi
fied thirty letters Delmas returned to
the counsel table and brought forth a
new package and the work of identi
fication continued.
In all Mrs. Thaw identified forty-two
letters. She was nearly half an hour
at the task.
SECOND OPERATION
As the examination of the letters was
concluded Delmas turned to the wit
ness and said:
How Ion? bare yon known May Mackenzie?
Sine* 1901. , •
How lone lias Mr. Thaw known her?
Since 1004.
Did you in Mar. 1906, wlate to Mr. Thaw
a conTpmation you had with May Mackenzie
with reference to what ene said to you rejrard
tnjr Stanford White?
'May Mackenzie told me Stanford White had
horn "to see her and that she had told him
that Harry and I were fretting along -finely ' to
jrether. She said ehe thought It was so nice
the way we loved each other. She said Stan
ford White bad remarked: "Pooh, It won't lait.
I will cpt h<>r back."
Did Mr. Thaw say anything when you told
• him that?
He snid he had alreacy heard it from Mis*
M^kenzie.
What was his condition when you told him?
The way he always was, when talking of
White, very excited and nervous.
You had a second operation In 1905, bad
you not?
Yes.
Who made the arrsngements for H and paid
the cost?
Harry K. Thaw.
How m*h was the 11111
In all about ?3000. The operation Itself was
Did Mr. Thaw hare any conversation with
the attending physician at that time repardlnc
your previous relations with Stanford White?
No. nit in my presence. w \u25a0
Did Mr. Thaw at the time of your marriape \u25a0:
talk very mu'-h about the Incident in your life j
connected wlrh Stanford trhite? i
Yes. He always talked about It. He would
awaken me often at nl£tit, sobbing. And then
he would constantly nsk me questions about
the details of this terrible thing.
Did you visit May Mackenzie «t her apart
ments tn 1904? \u25a0'.*/.
Yes.
While you were there flid Stanford White
corae In?
Yes. Stanford White spoke to me several
times, and I alvrsj-6 answered yes or no. He
Gfivne over *nd started to straighten a bow on
tr.v !ia{r. My hair was short, having been cut
off at the time of the operation. Then Stan
ford White tried to put his arms around me,
nnd wanted me to sit beside him on the bed.
I :\u25a0•;•'. him to leave me alone.
Mrs. Thaw said that* Harry Thaw
always attributed her illness, the
necessity for the second operation, etc.,
to Stanford White.
She also testified that Thaw had told
her he was going to take up Stanford
White's affairs with Anthony Corn
stock. She continued: T^f :
I told him it would do no pood, that White
had many influential friends and that be could <
ct«p it. I told him that lots of people would
not believe the things about White on account
of his personality.
Did you and Mr. Thaw discuss the fates Trf
other y<-,»;nc women at the bands of Stanford
White, and did you call him certain caxnea?
Jerome objected.
Delmas reframed the question and i
Mrs. Thaw said she and her husband
had discussed number of young!
women.
Are they the sanse- as mentioned • in the codicil
to Mr. Tltaw's will?
FATE OK THE PIE GIRI»*
IMd yoa and Mr. Thaw disenss the fate of
the "pie drl?"
Ye«. I-was in Paris, In 1903. He-asked me
what otter pirls I knew of who had suffered
lit the lianas of Stanford White. I told him' l!
had heard of the pie pirl. A »rlrl at the theater
told r.,0 about it. and that nisrht. when Stanford
White came to my dr^Ksmc room. I asked "him
:.'• -v It. He asked me where I bad beard. the
story. I told him a pir» had toid me, and he
told me all about It then. There was a stag
dinner, he *:\u25a0'»'. and this srirl was pot la a big
Tile with a lot of birds. She was very young —
about 15 yejir*. I think he «aid." He. also told
mo that the «lrl had a beautiful figure and wore
•mly a jranze dress. He helped put " her In the
pie *nd fixed it. When the sJrl lumped out of
the pie the t>ir<ss flew all about tue room.
At a dinner party af.the St. Regis In
1304 whcn^lr. and Mrs/ Thaw and an
other member were present the guest
told Mr. Thaw the story of the pie girl.
Mrs. Thaw continued:
He said that Mr. .White and another man
lia«l trouble about it — trouble to keep it out
of »he papers. He . said they went . on their
feiiees U> the editor of tie pamper and finally
aad it siippn«sed.
What newspaper was it?
The American.
What did Mr. Thaw nay?
He said be would, investigate the story and
tee what truth there trasjn-lt..-
When did he next tilk about the story?
The next time was in PittKbnrg wbwi we were
married. He told me th«t the girl was dead.
He had Investigated the story, and that it. was
true: that efterward the girl married, but her
susband heard the story -of her connection with
Mr. White and that he cart her off and she
died la great poverty and disgrace.
Did you and Mr. Thaw often t peak of these
girls? ' • '
. Tes. I could ' not tell you every ' place and
every time we discussed it. He told \u25a0me some
thing ought to be done about the girls; I told '
him I could n< it <1o muj- thing. He mid I could
help him. I tried to get his mind on \u25a0 other
things end then he would say I was : trying to
get out of it. He said . Stanford White ought
to v be In the penitentiary; '. thai he got • worse
end worse all the time and something ' had :to
bc-tlone. • »
? "You may take the witness,"-, said
D«lmas to Jerome.- — ' . \u25a0/
The moment of waiting for the prose
cutor's f}ret question .was interrupted
by Delmas, who'had a few more papers 1
for., the .witness to identify. , , , ,
.\u25a0. \u25a0 One-trf '-the papers identified was a
letter from Thaw to Anthony Corn
stock. In it Thaw described the studio
in the Madison Square Garden as being
filled ; with obscene pictures, and said
it should be raided.. He also; described
the studio at 22 West Twenty-fourth
street, which he said was- "consecrated
debauchery," and was used by a "gang
of rich; criminals."
In this building.the letter said, were
, the famous red velvet; swing and th«
mirrored bedrooms. He>; Inclosed a
sketch -of*' the. arrangements of the
room. v '_ • : • .:\u25a0 • .
"Workmen upon the outside of the
building." says the letter, "have fre
quently heard the scrfeams of young
girls from this building." :
The letter continued that the place
was frequently visited by iyoung men
who did not know its character.
The letter called attention to another
house, 122 East Twenty-second street,
saying that It was being "used secretly
by three or four of the same scoun
drels" for disgustingly immoral pur
poses, Its equipment being highly sug
gestive of its uses.
Delmas asked Mrs. Thaw if she had
told her husband of certain infamous
practices on the part of Stanford White.
"Yes."
"Can you describe them?"
Mrs. Thaw flushed. "Oh, no; they
are unspeakable." .
"Now you may take the witness,"
said Delmas to the District-Attorney.
- Jerome arose.
"I will ask permission to reserve my
cross-examination of this witness until
I can determine whether a cross-exam
ination is needful upon the Issues raised
in this case."
"We will assent to that," said Del
mas, and Mrs. Thaw/ left the stand.
"Call Mrs. J.- J. Came," oommanded
Delmas.
Mrs. Came is a petite young. woman,
with an abundance of brown hair worn
pompadour. She was smartly attired In a
dark brown suit and wore a toque of
brown fur. Mrs. Came had known Mrs..
Evelyn Thaw and her mother for six
years and Thaw for three years. Del
mas asked:
"Were you In New York In 1903 and present
when there occurred a conversation between
Mr. Thaw and Mrs. Holman in which Mr. Thaw
made a proposal of marriage?
I was.
State what 'that conversation was.
I was In the room when Mr. Thaw called.
He told Mrs. Holman that he wanted to marry
Evelyn.
What happened after Mr. Thaw made this
proposal? ,
I left the room.
Did yon accompany Mr. and Mrs. Thaw to a
theater late in 1903 or early In 1904?
Yes. ; \u25a0 >.*v:ri
Did Stanford White come in?
Yes, he came in and occupied a box opposite
ours.
What effect did this have upon Mr. Thaw?
He looked at the bos, his face turned white
and his eyes popped in a wide stare.
How long did he look that way?
Until Miss Nesblt told him that if he did
not stop she would take him from the theater.
What happened next?
Mr. White got up and went out and we re
mained.
"You may have the witness, Mr.
Jerome," said Delmas.
On cross-examination Jerome asked
Mrs. Came several questions regarding
the visit to the theater with Thaw, and
asked:
When next did you Bee Mr. Thaw ?
In Mrs. Nesbit's apartments. <*' -
Were you in the room?
No. 1 was ia the !» -room adjoining, but the
door was ajar, and I could see and hear
plainly.
How did yon happen to be in the bathroom?
When Mr. Thaw telephoned up to the room
Mrs. Nesbit asked me to go into the bathroom
so I could hear what was said.
DM she tell you anything about Thaw?
Not then^
Did Mrs. Nesbit give any reason for asking
you to go into the bathroom?
I She said she wanted me to hear what Mr.
! Thaw said.
What. I am trying to get at is why she -made
•his request that you act as an eavesdropper.
Delmas was on his feet exclaiming:
"I object and desire to note an excep
tion on the ground of misconduct of
the District Attorney."
"Well," said Jerome, "it is unusual
ly—"
"I protest and note another exception
on the same ground," broke in Delmas.
"Well, all right. I'll go at it another
way. Mrs. Came, did you not consider
it an unusual performance?"
I did not consider It at all.
All that happened nome time before Mr».
Nesbit told you that Thaw was interested in
Evelyn, and when .' he telephoned up all she
said was to ask you to go Into the bathroom
and listen?
Yes.
What did Thaw say first?
I don't remember.
Well, what do you remember of the con
versation? „
INDUCING BVEI/T.V TO MARRY
-» He told Miss Nesbit' about- his desire to tend
HTelyn to Europe and said if she would marry
him he would settle enough on Mrs, Nesbit and
Mr. Holman to keep them forever. Mrs. Nesbit
said she would try and fix it so Evelyn would
accept him. " . •
How long were yon in the bathroom ?
Only a few minutes. Mr. Thaw did not stay
long •
When you came out what did Mrs. Nesbit say
to you?
She said: "I know, yoa see, his intentions are
honorable." •;...'
Had there been any. discussion as to whether
his intentions were or were not honorable?
No. .-\u25a0-\u25a0-.-
What next did .Mrs. Nesbit say? ,
She said she wanted me to . help her to in
duce Evelyn to take Mr. Thaw as a husband.
Jerome pursued his questioning at
great length. He endeavored to bring;
out the fact from .the that
upon the second trip Harry Thaw and
Evelyn : Nesbit : made to Europe, Eve
lyn's mother; did not accompany Hheml
' Delmas objected to. this line of cross
examination, but Justice Fitzgerald up
held the District Attorney, who de
clared he was not indirectly attacking
the credibility of Mrs.. Thaw.
Delmas noted many exceptions, de
claring the' movements of young Mrs.
Thaw's mother could not constitute
evidence against the defendant
"Did Mrs. Evelyn Thaw tell you : that
heir mother was not upon the second
trip to Europe?" finally asked Jerome.
No. #'
Did you see Mrs Thaw's mother in 'this coun
try while her daughter was in Europe in: 1004?
Yes. Once in New. York.'
.Did you discuss Miss Nesbit's whereabouts?
We 4id not. . • . , \u25a0
When did you next see Miss. Nesbit or Thaw?
After they returned from Europe.
Where did Mrs. Nesbit then live?
In Ninety-first street, most of , the time; part
of the time at the Gregorian -in .Thirty-seventh
street. The bouse in Ninety-first- street- was a
private -house. . Besides \u25a0 the Nesblts and - Mr.
Tuaw I saw. no. one: there. but the maid. ':'-,, -
P'^w'&JS-"^ "^vf-^'^^M I • \. v t _?** / ! ESg3j^^^^ffi^ss^sS
vj Have buttonholes 1 that are; strongly rein- y v
jr I forced at , tHe; ends \u25a0 wHere ; the gj^
{' f V comes. ,-": They^rje^ the strongest made.s \ \ S
y6syg-_—^^ C-TJ'C -TJ' PtA " OPT .» 00-i M*HCWS Or CLUtTT »HIHTB.
SAN AFRANCISCO^ CALL:; -WEDNESDAY, .FEBRUARY 20/^ 1907.
Did Mrs. Nesbit live for a time at the Cumber
land? -
Not -that I know of.
During '-\u25a0 the time did you have conversations
with. Mr.' Thaw? \u25a0<"
Yes. \u25a0
• Delmas objected -to her telling of
these conversations ' and "was upheld/;
"During the two -months you and
Miss Nesbit were so much together did
you know where Mr. . Thaw Jived?"
asked Jerome. ..Jv-
"No// ..: .. \u25a0 , . ...
/'You had read- in the papers about
the Hotel Cumberland?"
Delmas objected.;
Jerome explained to. the court that he
had a right" to ask the questions in an
attempt to show, if possible, that the
witness had not told all she knew, or
that she was mistaken.
-After, a wordy_dispute between; the
lawyers Delmas withdrew his objec
tion and Mrs. Came said she had read
of the Cumberland.
When this Cumberland episode occurred, where
were you?
I went to live with Evelyn In Forty-first
street. ' " .
Did she ask you to go?
No. She came to the store where I was work-
Ing and I told her I was about to take an apart
ment and asked her to come and live with me.
We looked up advertisements In the papers and
found the Nlnety-flrst-street apartment ard
started there that night. , It was a furnished
apartment. ' '\u25a0 "•.• .:. v-" .
Did Thaw go with you?
\u25a0 : No. •: .\u25a0 - ---;; - \u25a0 .:,:>•\u25a0.
Whose name did you give in taking the apart
ment?
My own name. : '." ' -'\u25a0 '
What- name did Miss Nesbit give?
She did not give any. It was not necessary.
At this point a "recess until 2 o'clock
was ordered."
WHO PAID THE REXTI
Mrs. Caine's cross-examination was
resumed when court reconvened.
"How long did you and Mrs. Thaw
occupy the Ninety-first street apart
ment?" asked Jerome.
Three weeks.
Who paid the rent? . :
Out of your own money?
- Yes. : r : \u25a0 .
Mrs. Caine's voice was low, but she
answered quickly and briefly. On sev
eral ocasions when Delmas thought
Jerome's questions were being pressed
too hard he interposed, and wnen the
District Attorney attempted to draw
from the witness the details of con
versations with Thaw he, made objec
tions. , -
Where did Miss Nesbit go after you and she
broke up housekeeping?
To Mrs. Jewett's.
And then where? \u25a0 \u25a0''.'..
To Dr. Bull's sanitarium for the second opera
tion.
All the time you were with Miss Nesbit In
Ninety-first street, did you and your husband
maintain your own apartment in West Tenth
street?
Yes.
Did you and Miss Nesbit continue to go out
with Thaw? , ' - \u25a0-. " • -
Yes. . \u25a0 • "'\u25a0.\u25a0.-.-.\u25a0.-'\u25a0• --
You said this morning you wanted to protect
Miss Nesbit. What did you want to protect her
•from? | I
\u25a0 From newspaper notoriety.
What was the notoriety ?
"I object most seriously," 'said Del
mas.
"What the newspapers said was not
material." "
"What the newspapers said. Is very
material," commented Jerome. "You
heard, did you not?" he said, address
ing the witness, "that this; defendant
and Miss Nesbit were ejected from a
hotel?"
"I read It in the papers."
The answer was given before Delmas
could state hia. objection; and he moved
to have both question and answer
stricken out. , v
"Did you hear anything except what
you saw in,! the. newspapers?? asked
Justice Fitzgerald. : " " ." ,- "
\u25a0;VNo, sir." -.• . 1- '. . . , .
- "Then your question and the answer
will be striclfen out," ruled the Judge.
"You want us to -understand," said
Jerome, "that you took the money you
earned In the department store, paid
the rent of this apartment for Miss
Nesbit and were not reimbursed?"
I was not reimbursed ln' ; any . way.
When you and Miss . Nesbit went to the
Ninety-first street, house upon the first .night
did you' have any -baggage?
No. - ' -\u25a0. -.\u25a0---"\u25a0 . \u25a0 \u25a0 \u25a0 - \u25a0• \u25a0\u25a0 \u25a0 \u25a0 -'
Why did you spend the night there if' you
had another apartment? .'-._,
There was not room there for Evelyn.
Did you plan to stay there . when you went
out -to find an- apartment? • . . ; .
We had no plans.
|tha\v; usually normal
Had you a telephone at that apartment house?
I don't' remember.. -'.' . \u25a0 . -\ -'\u25a0'; •
During the three weeks . while you were there
did you never use that telephone ? ;
• Never. , • - - ' ' '\u25a0: - -- \u25a0< • \u25a0'
Did Miss Nesbit use it ?
Not to my knowledge. .
At all the. dinners and theater parties were
the acts of the defendant rational?. : .
.Except when \u25a0 he ' saw- Mr. White..
I suppose be paid all the bills at the dinners
and theaters ? » .
, Yes.- -\u25a0 -..".: - -I .... ' . ;\u25a0;'; \u25a0•-" -
.He evinced no undue excitement except when
he saw*- White?
-.-\u25a0 No. \u25a0\u25a0 \u25a0 . . ' \u25a0\u25a0- '..--"\u25a0
He showed a full' appreciation of the value
of money in making change, etc. ?
I did not i notice.-- .-.-•\u25a0
As to the use of Intoxicants, ' did you at any
time see him drink to excess ? '
No.- .\u25a0.„- \u25a0\u25a0 ' . .- \u25a0 - - - -.-- :\u25a0 :\u25a0. .-\u25a0-- . '\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0 . \u25a0.;
• "When you were in the bathroom did the
defendant's conversation disclose . anything' er
ratic in I your mind ? :
-; NO.'-
Jerome reverted to: the Daly Theater
incident. ' -.
: You knew there was a feeling of enmity be
tween Thaw and -White?.' "#«S#S?F«SSI&
:. -Yes.'- \u25a0\u25a0 . \u25a0- :- : ;-.--- ... ": \,' . ' \u25a0 - • \u25a0 '
I Did | Mes. Thaw tell ' you the reason ?
...No.-. . -, - \u0084-\u25a0:.,\u25a0 - - . \u25a0\u25a0 . , \u25a0\u25a0 \u25a0 ..
'\u25a0 How did 'you know 'it?.
From Mr. Thaw's appearance when he saw Mr.
White.' ? His appearance \u25a0 was ~ that of a -:\u25a0\u25a0 man
aroused at the 'presence of -an;' enemy.
- Was the operation for appendicitis performed
on Mrs. Nesbit in -1003? V :
\u25a0• Yes..; - ' ' . -•. ,\u25a0:.:-
Delmas objected to-this.' He said, the
only evidence? that j the /operation -j'.was
for, appendicitis: was ,the; statement; by,
the "learned district attorney," to which
he took exeception. . ; ;' • : . r ' T; " 1 ;
"Did, Evelyn tell' you that, the opera
tion was for appendicitis?" asked
Jerome. \u25a0\u25a0,•\u25a0\u25a0'
"Yes." ' ;.\u25a0 :<-'^^P|^ppiP^pj|s!fe;
The matter was allowed to stand.;.*;
Jerome said, he'was. through and Del
mas took up; the redirect examination.
: The witness said *that Thaw "always
acted . rational . except ; in, the presence
of White. Thaw's ; attentions to \u25a0 Miss
Nesbit \were always respectful.*
'.-' .Mrs. Came ;\u25a0 was \ then - : excused ;and
Evelyn .-Nesbit \u25a0, Thaw \u25a0 was ;. recalled . \u25a0to
Identify more Vpapers., ";', \u25a0 *
" Mrs.>, Thaw J- Identified ; : a letter which
she said had been 'written, to Thaw by
her "mother. .'\u25a0' \u25a0'-".- ..' . -.
"Dld^you ever see it in the possession
of Mrs. Thawi prior to June 25 last?"
a' cash; proposition
Jerome objected and Justice Fitzger
ald ; read: the ; leter. i:\
~v' Delmas";; said Sth'e letter, .which was
writtehiby 'Mrs? Nesbit subsequently; to
Thaw'B ;i proposal " for the :' hand of her
daughter, . tended -to show a: condition
impressed upon thedefendant's mind. .?i
,' rrhe, ; letter.: shows" that? Thaw; paid
honorable ; court -to -this girl; and -With
her 'f consent,"; said" Delmas.
\u25a0 "As r t I J understand : it," .'' said ? Jerome, 1
"this ; man came^-.to' Mrs. Nesbit. and
made_a definite cash proposition."
'} ="If fthe : learned: District de
sires i to take .that commercial view of
It,: he; mayrdoTso." V -
Jerome said; there was no necessity
of showing theattltude of the mother
toward"; the defendant at that time,*
adding:; . \ , •
r "lf r it;comes to letters I have in ray
possession an - endless chain of letters."
Delmas noted' an exception lo Je
rome's statement. ; ;
,:\ Justice: Fitzgerald overruled the ob
jection; to I the letter and it was read/
; The -letter, was dated at the New Jer
sey "school, twhich Evelyn attended in
1903., It read: V
Dear Mrs. ; Thaw: .. Evelyn " has suffered terri
bly, ; but is out of danger. As soon as the phy
sicians can safely do so she will be moved to a
hospital. 1 . She, was very grateful- for your ; mes
sage. I received your kind letter, v Thank yon
very much. I hope you are well and, trust to see
you very. soon. : E. M. Nesbit. \u25a0."•\u25a0 .
"Did you and MxC-ThaW see May Mac-
Kenzie after I you : had gone Jto Pitts
burg?" •; :-.- "'\u25a0"- ; . ;-' . \u25a0 >
< "Yes. ••:.; Mr. .Thaw said he was afraid
Stanford White was going to. do some
thing to Miss ; MacKenzie. I told him
she was able to take scare of herself,
but he'seemed much worried."
CROSS-EXAMIXATIOBT BEGUN
Jerome expressed willingness to take
up the, , cross-examination
morning, ;; the rdeffense to proceed with
its other . w itnesses In the meantime."
Delmas would ; not consent and Jerome
yielded, beginning ; the cross-examina
tion of ; Mrs. Thaw. V; • ,
Jerome drew forth a large numberof
papers from'; a leather pouch. He-se
lected one and handed it to. Mrs.
Thaw. \u25a0•'.-..\u25a0 : \u25a0• '. \u25a0\u25a0-'...- \u25a0 \u25a0.'.. ... \u25a0. \u25a0 "-'. \u25a0 ,
Is that your handwriting?
It looks like 'mine;: I can't say.
- '.Weren't , you. In , March, 1902, drawing " $25 ! a
week from the Mercantile Trust Company," when
you were not playing, and is not this letter ad
dressed by you to the trust company I directing
what shall be done with the money? '.-•-*.
. Delmas objected. He declared that
the letter would- speak for ; Mtself.
Jerome -withdrew it and asked \ Mrs.
Thaw ; to; Identify, the signature on
three slips of paper. "It looks like
mine; I can't say positively."
Are they not receipts for the $25 a week you
drew from, the Mercantile Trust Company? '•-
Delmas again objected and Jerome changed the
question.. • • - - .
Is It not \u25a0: a fact \u25a0; that you. In March, 1902,
were drawing $25 a week from the' Mercantile
Trust Company? \u25a0 , .
' I can't say. \u25a0/..'.' . '. ." . • ; .
Was It not about that time.?
I can't say positively.
"You may now take the witness,"
said Delmas , to— Jerome. ,
.The District ; Attorney again asked
permission '.to - reserve nls cross-exam
lnatJonCuntir«-some future time.
Delmas insisted 1 that the examina
tion go on ' at once. ; ' '\u25a0.
There : ensued ; a.long discussion be
tween Delmas and Jerome as. to the
deferring of -the cross-examination of
Mrs. Thaw, the District Attorney say-
Ing "that, if a legitimate : , case of .In
sanity , is - made out I will ; be* the first
to admit It. I do not, want', to .start
thls:cross-examinatlon.until.l;am sure
it' will be 'necessary.";-""' ; -
Jerome: fjUrther ; sald that s it would
be necessary to' recall I Drs. Deemar and
Bingaman ? for .-'cross-examination. ";,.
In ; the " course ; of the session Delmas
turned, to >-\u25a0 Jerome and, asked: "Did I
understand: you to say that If you are
honestly convinced Mr. Thaw was . In
sane June 25,; you would abandon this
prosecution?", v ; '"
,"I .'-agreed to nothing," replied
Jerome. '?. v .-,: ; : T
. Delmas asked that Jerome's remarks
be- read; from, : the -record :' arid the
stenographer started to do so/ but after
reading a few words he was cut short
by an ; Interruption. " \u25a0 '
"I stand on that," said Jerome.
PROOF OF HER LOVE y
.Jerome handed 'Mrs. Thaw a large
number of 'papers, • checks, ' etc., and
asked;' her. to select the ones she knew
she. had signed. She didso.
\u25a0^ What day was It you returned from Europe In
1903? - \u25a0 - \u25a0•-.-: \u25a0 --.
I don't remember the exact date.
. Was It on Saturday?
\u25a0; I- don't know. \u25a0• - , \u25a0 -
.When you left the steamer did you go to a
hotel?;;
Yes.'' .- : -.-\u25a0-' -----
I - Janos'
\ Best Natural
l« Bi nera ' Water
If li'im^l^ Take half a
\u25a0 Sy ' K**^*s?Jj glosstul In- w>
m 13f%C1« the-mornlnjl S
- for headache,
fa biliousness, f
\ EbS Ps s^ I*'1 *'' 3 '! torpid liver Jj
$% l^^^t^ and especially wfS
COFFEE ;.
The responsible man is
the roaster; Jhis" is the
narhe to go by.
..(•.Your grocer "returns \u25a0 your . money if : you don't
like; Schilling's Best. , ;.. '',
RECEIVER'S NOTICE— GERMANS NATIONAL*
. INBURANCB COMPANY — All . persons > having
-' cUimg against the German ' National : Insurance
, \u25a0 Company of * Chicago, » lHlnols;* growing , ! out » of
' r flre , losses ' in ; the 1 ! city of , San ; Francisco.l occur-1
: : ring prior ; to : November; 20, $ 1906,'' are hereby
\u0084 t notified -. that > by . : an order I entered ; by ; the [ Clr-
• cult Court : of \u25a0 Cook " County,", Illinois, , on \u25a0 Febru-
% ary O, T A." D. j 1007, >It Is provided ' that all \u25a0 sueh 1
\ - claims against the, Gerinnn National Insurance
_> ; Company aof * Chicago,^? Illinois,":- mnat ibe \ filed 'j
Vr-. under s oath <In *~ the r f prmT, prescribed i by 4 said |
t-. court; at* the office of :tbe, receiver; of » said -The '
'£• German * National ; Insurance • Company^, at room I
3s- 1; of ; 1015 *Polk •st.,'- San'j Francisco, > California,
'J-'i on or before ; th« : 10th ' day . of > May;' A: 1 D.-s 1907,
;" and i that '<\u25a0 all i such '\u25a0 claims f not ; so . filed i will \be
:j: j disallowed \u25a0 and \ forever I barred i from\ partlclpa-^
- V tine : in \ the ' distribution * of « the * assets ? of,", the
* v said -The German .National' Insurance Company.";
\u25a0 i > ..This notice shall' not- be; or i be} taken; to; be a
'v:-; waiver "; of »: any.'i failure 'on c thef? part toftf t any,
'v claimant.' to ; comply i with ithe : provisions |of t his
':i insurance, policy. In j respect .to notice,^proofs' of
or any; other matter,*; and: no clalmywill be
{ : i allowed : where j the j claimant * has 1 failed •to \u25a0 file.
tj4 proper < notice \ and " : proofs \of • loss 'with ; said * In-
ej enrance > Company X within < the * time " limited s by '
\u25a0 i his ? policy,"* or i any ~ -a extension j-.i thereof ... duly
granted : by > said ; Insurance • Company. l^:.?.;- ? ; : v -••'•\u25a0.-#.
Blank"fonns;for proofiOf, claims mayibe had
Cat the Receiver's office at i room 'l' of 1615, P01k
- St.," San. Francisco, j California. -?>• - - '.- -r >-
. '\u25a0 h--;^.;a; STATED BANK --OF! CHICAGO, aY
•> Receiver , r of '-The ' German -' National* Insurance
Company jof -Chicago," Illinois.^ "*:;:\u25a0 -.^.-cc
y ,: Judah,- WUlard : i. >Wolf ,\ Solicitors - tar} Re- 4
.Kf^T"-* . . v . • - ' .; * . . \u25a0
JEROME ATTACKS THE
DEFENSE OF THAW
Move of Prosecutor . Sur
prises Lawyers of Ac-;
cused Man
Continued From Pagre^ 1, Column 6
mobile; sobbing as. she started -for:- her
apartments <in = the Lorraine after ad
journment. "
:\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0;\u25a0 Jerome I before the close of the day
had. reverted: to- the, story told by the
witness v of; her culminating . wrong >at
the hands; of Stanford White.' The Dis
trict Attorney took her over ; the ground
previously traversed, evidently attach
ing i much Importance to '•:' placing defi
nitely the date of that occurrence. The
witness was positive as ; to her recol
lection that It ' was : the next day after
she had posed as described for a series
of ' photographs. . • . •
AJf'UXEXPECTED BLOW
Such . emphasis was laid by the Dis
trict Attorney .; on the time of the event
that; the conclusion was inevitable that
he expected to strike j some ] unexpected
blow - which may seriously shatter the
structure of evidence built '<up around
:To make , certain' Evelyn Thaw's as
sertion as .to the sequence of her . visits
to Stanford White, Jer,ome read to her
at; length the transcript of portions of
her own evidence. .She was nervous
and seemingly at a loss to .understand
what pitfall he" might be preparing
for her, but ; she reiterated her story
and did not modify one scintilla while
sunder, fire. =
When court adjourned Jerome had
brought out the fact-'that Evelyn Nes
bit Thaw had been named as one of the
corespondents in the Lederer divorce
Bult, "- but she had. asserted, that she
knew nothing about It; except' what she
had seen In the 1 newspapers. The Dis
trict Attorney led her to assert that
when: Thaw had asked her to marry
hini in Paris and she had refused him
she had done so: although she loved him
dearly, making this renunciation of her
happiness solely; because of what she
had; suffered. .
v On the very heels of this pretty dec
laration Jerome extracted an admission
that after Thaw's : proposal and rejec
tion in : Paris, the witness from . Bou
logne, had written letters to Stanford
White.;. ' : - -...-.. -
Altogether It was, Jerome's day, and
Delmas and the defense were obviously
ill at ease. <: .
And register?
Yes.
Would It assist your memory if I showed the
hotel register? -\ ...-., \u25a0 .
There was . no audible answer.' .
When you refused Mr. Thaw in Paris in 1903
did .you tell your mother?
- Yes. - •_• \u25a0 .
Did you love him enough to have married him
If It > had not been for the event in your life
which you related here?
•• Yes. : : - ' •• - -'
There was no other reason for your refusal?
-- No. \u25a0:; ;••.;\u25a0 \u25a0 .. \u25a0 . - ..
W s Almost as Bad to Move as to
ildvc a I II C
Worse if you have no place to move to. We will have to move our {
reserve stock out of the big Rodeo warehouse (if you don't buy it J \u0084
1 : f first) and we have no place > to move it to. • . 1 IF
Kb ;\lt's a "Karpen" set — made by Karpen Bros., of Chi- IjITT OH ' M
em : P cago— a guarantee of its' worth. Richly polished frames, V.H| / S
||SVS V 4f^(^Sr.'dj detachable cushions of silk plush. There's no secret J 3lj tflll %%
Hp I* // > w*B^ about the former price, it was ninety dollars. %j/wllWw |l|
I Velvet Carpets i
H (111 flh " sewed and Laid (1)1 Rfl !
' Emi "' AL I. v U - The velvets are worth a dollar-flfty a yard. "We never dreamed A I ill! * t: 1
JfcSM -ill'l- -- ot selling the 10-wlre tapestries for a cent under $1. 25, bat anything ill I
ill I a Ysrd t0 set out of movln & them. .. ij i avarj j -j
M ) IO^WIRE TAPESTRY— Sewed and Laid ; " *|
\u25a0\u25a0.;-\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0\u25a0 Wj'jfi ' ; . i r v7>^ssArniCyrs2.sop^^ B
i^ '''^nfe^^'"''''""''-""-''!!^^''^^^!^ ' when an apple box, would do. ; Vf.H |J
Oi *!/ Kil ' IP/ -V -|i w e're -sellin? Extension Tables for ; 1 t''~i l*\
Easg .:\u25a0\u25a0;'. \u25a0"'•\u25a0%'\u25a0 t I ;< : : ; -tty. : --'' <U» | I what .we j can ; get. -We : picture ; one : : *== « --"7-i £--;]
jg^vn| * \u25a0 \u25a0 \u25a0. ? 'V^*' r ~- : "i* 1 c^l^^^ * \u25a0^ edefltal Ta ole as lo*wr as thlr— vv x * \u25a0 I
PLACE A CHIGKERING
QUARTER GRAND
Where Your Upright Now Stands
Poth take up the same space, but the Chiciering Quarter Grand
has a tone richness and depth that, cannot be secured on the upright
style oif piano. . . \
The Quarter Grand is simply a Chickering Concert Grand con-
densed. Its tone has less volume and power to better suit the acoustics
of a small room. But it has the same superb "tone quality" which
has "placed the. Chickering Concert^ Grand first among the world's
pianos.- Wherever an upright can be accommodated the Chickering
Quarter Grand will go.
BENJ. C\ IR TA 7 & 3ON
EST. 1856 • VUl\ 1 /"\u25a0/ * H.J. CURTAZ.
ttHBEK President-
1615 Van Ness Aye., Near California J
— \ — — ; ;
There fo only one
- Bliailftrlf i&Btd rosukUm wtaoUine* J& f^TIJ Zf
doodTo, Thifl first «jd original Oold T»blrt jTZL f * \/f X^
ia a WBITI'PAOKAOS wltk bUok BfM //*«//
ud Hd bUniag, vi bcui tlu» iip»atu»« of \J!S 0 '& JZ^y7^V^\^o*
It was out of your great love for him that
yon refused?
It was.
You were not thinking of marrying anybody
else?
\u25a0 You rejected him for no other reaaon than
what yon have told us about, and you gave him
no other? \u25a0 \u25a0\u25a0 - - .
No.
What part of the year was this?
Continued on Paste 3, Bottom Coh. 1
The China, at 153S Geary, serves novel
Oriental dishes that please palate. Chop
suey specialties, noodles, tea. preserves.*

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