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The San Francisco Sunday Call California Women Who Think OPINIONS FOR AND AGAINST THE HAREM SKIRT Awarded a Jelly Spoon a Prophecy «r*. C hnrlr, If.* Blinn. 100 Kdgenood Avenue, San Francisco .San Francisco. July 18. 1936. Pfar Dolly: I know you'll be amused it my, funny experience this afternoon. i\hi|p shopping I ran across a woman who had siepped out "£. the fashion" plates of 23 years ago! No wonder a ctowd of boys followed in her wake, nnd every man turned to ( smile! She was walking clumsily. in the old fash ioned "skirts* of our grandmothers, twice hampered at every step. At the corner they filled like sails, and a stray grust blew the light material about her waist. There, was a most Immodest display of hosiery. Think how shivery the poor creature must have been! But the climax of the comedy came when she attempted to board'a car! With her arms burdened -with pack she literally "stopped all over herself!" The whole proceeding must have been in the nature of a joke, to kpt-vp as a warning against a return to the absurd costumes of the past. Think of it. Polly! Only 23 years ftffo all women were wearing these flopping. awkward. Impractical costumes! Think of the Itmbs being retarded from the natural, free movement we were cre ated to use. and the immodesty of such a costume In our windy climate! Like wise think of the yards of material needel to clothe two small legs! How did the women of that day vault a fence or do any mountain climbing? How did they play golf, or tennis" How could they even walk? Running, of course, was quite out of the ques- And. think of this. Dolly, with yards of material there was no I ft pocket! Compare our present day comfort able "trouserette" costume with the riflirulo'us "skirts" of any period, es pecially with the awful "hoop" skirts years ago Cdid you ever hear of them?) and you'll not wonder that women have*been so slow to "come Into their own." I've heard any mother say that a? a young girl sKe delighted in going damping, where she could wear a 'bloomer 11 costume all summer, for the freedom of It was luxury to her. But In the winter convention dictated a return to the clumsy "skirt." It's hard to believe, isn't it. that only a few years ago women were so inconsistent nnd silly? And yet, ff you read the press of that day you'll see printed tirades on every sheet against what they derisively called "the harem skirt." It was left for the women of Hie sluggish old world civilization to f>oint the way to our women. We failed in thr>?e days even to profit by 'he example set us by the Chinese who walked in our midst, with out ridicule, clothed in their decorus, bifur: :rne. ■ can tell how much woman's ration, politically and econom has i'ome from her adoption of ■ess"? Trousers Worn at Sea M. B. Herd. .1100 Grove Street. Berkeley t rail this controversial skirt <?) -■"? Why not call it tho Turkied er, thus saving "our skirt" the i of such- an implication? ■>> give my testimony of the nractirability and entire suitability of •iivided skirt (trousers if you please) In my experience as first mate of a ship master in his lons sea voyages. In the wild winds of the quarterdeck and the flooded cabin the "skirt"' was out of question, and hence :.eceasity of this Invention. It was fashioned from a heavy, yard width of cloth, folded in half for each tag; gathered by elastic band around the ankle, and made of sufficient length to fall over and nearly conceal the foot, thus closely resembling a iklrt. Over this was worn a close flt tinfr tunic with tull skirt, reaching just below the knee, a loose coat of same length <'omp>tinsr a costume that my captain called "j.ist the thing." and from all our crew of 35 men I never knew the glance of derision or dis respect. For t*io-=<» who are determined to wear the "hrerrhr*" too much can not be said in favor of this costume, as It Is far^ more modest and refined than many of the lato freaks of fashion, which give gratuitously to a general public a most exaggerated outline of woman's form t divine. But give us now and forever the full flowing Bkirt of graceful womanhood, and let its substitute be known only to camp, field and sea! i I pray we may use some of our -Ai'iffragette force in freeing ourselves from the ridiculous and oppressive in tho tyranny of fashion, and sensibly consider the everlasting fitness of thingsy-dress in particular. 'Let Us Be 'Mejum' Mi»« Mary Jameson, Marshfield, Ore. Josiah Allen's wife used to say: v 'mejum' course is allus best." That ap plies to dress reform. We need : we are getting it. but it Is not going to come all at once, in the shape of the harem skirt. Beside, the need is not for a new form of divided skirt, but for a cos tume that will release the vital organs from restraint. Now, we already have union underwear, corsets which re strain the hips Instead of the waist, princess petticoats, and various forms of graceful and beautiful one piece dresses. With all these, almost per fect freedom is pos»ible, and yet a woman need not look a semi-masculine freak, but can still be pretty and fem inine, still indulge in dainty frills, still be fashionable, and best of all. future generations need not suffer. On the other hand, the harem skirt A Woman Who Wore 'Em Christine M. Laplare, 1428 Corbett Avenue, San Francisco "What shall we do with the harem skirt?" Let half a dozen women put harem skirts on and walk a mile in them and the harem skirts will forever be rele gated to a back hook in the ward robe. For a number of years T have ridden horseback astride and very often have had to dismount and walk a distance. sojpetim»s to the stable and again on mountain trails, in the divided skirts, and have found them very uncomforta ble and clumsy. As you step forward the fullness on the Inner side of the other trouser»leg trips the l»g that Is stepping out, and any pair of trousers a bit wider than men's pants will do this. You may note that the women who ride horseback have now discarded the Shun Conspicuous Attire Mrs. J. M. Rulb. 732 Dennett Avenue, Fresno The harem skirt, to my way of thinking, Ik a freakish fad. and de signed by those who are wise enough to know that the more unusual and conspicuous a garment can be turned out the more readily will the so called "smart dressers" fall Into line and adopt the new fashion. I believe there is great need of dress reform, and the solution lies with fathers and husbands who are over indulgent with their wives and daugh ters and who allow them the where withal to satisfy every whim and fancy. If men would shun the wearer of a harem skirt I fancy that garment would be relegated to the dingy attic. Do we not invariably adorn ourselves for Just a wee smile or word of ap proval from the sterner sex? If there were only women in the world who would give a rap for harem, hobble skirts or any other freak of fashion! Therefore, I say, let man be master tn 4 his own household and insist upon the women attiring thUmselves in simple, neat gowns; anything they may choose so long as it does not border on the ridiculous. Good taste and simplicity are safeguards from insults and jests. Woman Should Keep Her Place Milllceut Gilford, Harrison I, for one, do not balieve In the harem skirt. It may be better than the ordi nary skirt in some Ways, but any woman who wears one wishes to make herself conspicuous. A woman should keep her place; she shouldn't try to adopt the fashions that are only fads. Let the men wear the pants, not the women. Harem skirts will soon be a thing of the past. No woman with any sense or any respect for her sex would wear them, and I believe a great many of you will Join me in crying, "•Down with tha harem skirt!" < its special use. perhaps as a ■•% garment, just us bloomers are ::i the "gym." and the divided We could get used list as we ilo with everything Right liore I pick up the evening paper and behold, our editor warmly defends the liarem skirt; reminds his readers that over half the women of the world wear the trousers; that for a woman to rldo a bicycle was once considered Improper; that the divided skirt is the only safe costume for horse back riding, and pertinently Inquires: "If a woman may wear a divided skirt on top of a horse, why not on top of a pavement?" It is certain that if the garment Is found to (ill a real need, all the attacks upon it will not prevent the twentieth century woman from accepting it. But let us be sensible, "let us be mejum." divided or harem skirt and wear a plain skirt, split back and front, with knee length riding breeches and boots, so that when dismounted a woman has only to button her skirt back and front and can then walk comfortably. "Women say they are hampered by skirts. They will find themselves doubly hampered by the "harems." ; For Masculine Women Only Mrs. F. Lowery, *41 South Pilgrim j~ Street, Stockton ■ On riding your request for opinion! of the harem skirt I will gladly give mine. I say "banish it! Hiss it off the street whenever it is worn. 1 Then no woman with any respect for herself or any one else will wear one. It is a, disgrace to our sex. The harem aklrt will cause men to become disrespectful. The woman who wears one does not do so for the beauty or comfort of it, for there is none in them. She should be classed with the men and treated as such. These are my views in regard to the hidfoua harem skirt. A Question Mr*. Margaret , Edwards, 1034 Union . Street, San Francisco , This is America. 'We have been given, freedom, of speech freedom of th« press, why not grant all freedom ;in dress? . When a woman, endowed by the .Creator with the "inalienable S right* of t i equality, dares to buy; and wear one Of " the skirts with slight division at the , bottom, why should the rest of her sex mock or deride her bravery? ' >'<*. WHAT SHALL MILADY PUT ON?—FOR PRIZES! THE women of California are not afraid to say what they think. Siijce the question. "What shall we do with the* harem skirt?" was first propounded through the columns of this paper, the feminine readers of the Sunday section have been responding in a manner which speaks well for their intelligence and fearlessness. Letters are received evcrv day from all over the state, no two alike, in \vhicb the writer frankly and forcibly* states her reasons for likinp or disliking the invasion of the much heralded skirt. While there -ire a number who cling to the present day one piece skirt, they are Rreatly in tho minority, and the general trend of opinion seems to swing toward the new fashion. i However, there are many who anprove of tho new skirt for tramp ing or horseback riding only, and believe that it rhould not he obtruded on the vision of a ballroom assembly; while tl iust :is many who claim that the harem skirt, made up in materials, is clumsy and awkward, and that it should be relegated to the ase of evening dress. There is much talk of dress reform, and now is the time to brina: it to pass, if that is what the women of California honestly want. If you have an expression of opinion on the subject, no matter how radi cal, let us have it. Every bit helps. And for the two best letters sent in each week The Call will award two prizes in (flyer ware. These letters must necessarily be out of the ordinary. J'hey must be clever and entertaining and well written. The letters «Would not exceed .300 words in length, and must be written on one side of the paper only. The nuestion is. "What shall we do with the harem skirt? 1" It may Jje that many fail to approve of the new garment in any instance. If *o, put in your plea, and so help your own cause along. There can not be too much said about the matter, for dress reform is one of the most vital questions of the day concerning women. Write to the symposium editor, The Call, San Francisco. Awarded a Cold Meat Fork TrQussrs Not ionopoly Mlv Frances Mentor, 307 Scott Street, Snn Francisco Only grant the harem skirt life enough for the process of evolution to eliminate its undesirable features. and we shall have accomplished Utopia** in the matter of woman's dress. Why fear to ape tho sex masculine? Because man has come first Into the possession of all the conveniences is no reason we should stand back with a divine respect for liis monopoly. We can do no wiser than to follow in the footsteps of our betters. Mankind, un willing to be hampered and Inventive, has achieved the best and most prac tical solution of the problem. Why, then, not enjoy the fruits of his irt- gemilty? There Is nothing offensive to one's sense of refinement In the pantaloon skirt. Nothing could be more decor ous than the Chinese woman's costume and no panel blushes for its bifurca tion. Wo need not dread becoming "mannish." Sex is not an acquired characteristic. What Women Wear Leaore Peter*, 2514 Pine Street, San Francisco. I mean not *to disprove what other and wiser ones have said, but "here lam to speak what I do know": That for many months past, our streets have been flooded with beautiful women and lithe and shapely girls In indescribable but certainly delightful costumes. I am led to believe that the cause of thla sudden appearance of so much loveliness Is traceable to the great dic tators at Paris, who through their re markable agency spread broadcast cer tain styles of wearing apparel that are unfailingly contagious. In the matter of criticising* female attire. It is too often those who have nothing to sh,ow who cry down the clinging garments that "show the fig ure," now very much in vogue. This Is too bad. What is more beautiful than woman's figure? Why hide it in an overindulgence in skirts and flounc ing*, said to be more feminine, that are not necessary as a ooverinjr and only take from the graceful motions of the body? It is not the clothes that make us feminine or otherwise, and beauty Is a thing to rejoice in. Let us. who have none, not begrudge the pride of it In others. As far as the Immediate harem* Is concerned, from those I have seen In The Bunday.CikJl. for instance, or in shop windows, I gather there are; two varie ties. One Is the ordinary, well'known "divided" skirt, : as" worn by equestri ennes, anJ the other Is a beautiful, filmy thin* which, Is every bit as graceful as the* accepted > evening.; gown;, and surely, * : O sisters, no more Immodest! ; One ■ is simply a novelty: to delight the senses of -: the , social butterfly In search of something: new. and the other? Well, I can see In it no advantage over the ordinary plain or plaited walking skirt, ■with: a view to comfort, and in appear ance iit Is . much r the same. • Extreme* ,'of* fashion, however, that ;«et the tongues,' of • men 'wagging and furnish sfood'for the funny artists-and ; poets, after all. are adopted only by those .who. have nothing else with which t:to occupy their.minds and are endowed with- cornu coplae from which to fill the coffers of the mantua makers. There; always will -be the j great \ mass of : good r sense "j middle class (socially. 1 financially and mentally) composed !of you and me, who, will wear modified hobbles, modified -; harems '«r : modified versions of any fantasy of the Parisian mind - that 'is>on '. the - market— we «never like to be out of style—and who wMI appreciate' to the utmost all there Is to beauty, humor or X pathos to be found among the extremists, ■so ) long •as the world-rolls on. , . Women Should Wear Knee Trousers Gladys Dome, ■ JIB© ; Stuart Street, >; ■ .Berkeley. I have never seen a harem skirt; therefore tan not express a positive opinion In regard to It. However, from what I have read, I do not think it fills the long felt want In skirt reform. Why stop half way? When we wish to cross a river or the bay, do we go as far as the, middle of the stream and stop? No; we go across to the other side. So why should we stop half way In skirt reform? A woman should not wear her husband 1* trousers; there should be a distinction between a woman's and a man's dress. She should be as womanly, dainty and modest as possible, yet possess health and com fort. She nhould wear pants. Not bloomers, but pants, made plain, no plaits, no puckers; fastened with a rub ber drawstring Just below the knee, finished with a pretty bow and buckle! .Immodest? No. Since woman is a biped, why should she be ashamed to admit that she has two legs? in some countries It 1* Immodest for a woman to appear in public without a veil; a few years ago it was very immodest for a woman to appear astride a horse, but common sense overruled prejudice. Away with such false modesty. Let us be truly modest, dainty and womanl/. Throw off the relic of the dark ages the flopping skirt—and wear knee l>ants: From a practical and financial view point the advocates of the harem skirt have all the arguments. Take a singie Instance—the curtailing of the it agger ing laundry bills for the expensive and perishable lingerie. And what a boon to business women and shoppers, if only for the fact that Its capacious pockets (which, if not yet her>\ will noon arriv«) will supplant the cumbersome and easily misplaced handbag. Anain. the rainy day ago nies of flopping, wet and mud bedecked skirts shall have passed. Let not the fat woman tremble. What man of "00 pounds ever looked as obese as his sister of corresponding avoirdupois? Now that the delicate subject has been broached and that the idea of ; s wearing sensible, and not, ire, exclusively male attire, has lllty, one thing alone (an kill it. and woe to us If our inborn and overwhelming vanity rings its knell. A Southern Woman's Views Mm. A. Wyatt, 3300 Brookdale Avenue, Frultvale We are too narrow minded and quick to resent Innovations. It is the creature and not the creation that sometimes sends us from the sublime to the ridic ulous. A modified harem skirt, mod estly and becomingly worn, would In turn excite admiration and commend itself even to nTEre men. It is not al ways what you wear but the way you it that makes you ridiculous. The bustle and hoopskirt (I am a southern woman) aroused the Ire and condemna tion of all men, and some of the south ern states legislated against them, but in time no woman was considered dressed without them, "We were caus tically criticised for riding the bicycle and bloomers. Vghl they were unmen tionable. The divided skirt for horse back riding was a profanation, etc., etc. Before Miss- Claire Whitney dis- ; charges another fustian fury of tirade j against reform in dress, 'twere well for | her to consider that dozens of yards of heavy dress goois dangling about the pedal extremities of a rhinoceros would in time render that poor ani mal pigeontoed and bowlegged. Why should we care for man's opinion on dress reform? Let him go back to his long hair, ruffles and flowing robes be fore he qualifies to regulate our habili ments. Some women can do more to unsex themselves in politics and plat form orations, in which they often make a great show of words upon a small capital of ideas, than in adopting a sensible dress reform. It Is some times better to disclose one's imper fections than to vulgarly display a sacred perfection. I am making no special plea for the harem skirt, but there are worse things paraded before us every day without adverse comment. To the pure, etc. Use Reason Joaepblae G. Peoples, Coqullle. Ore. Of course let the harem skirt be worn at the right time and by the right peo ple. A large woman can wear plaids, if she has intelligence enough to se lect the right plaid and have her gown made in the right way. Extremes of style should be adopted only by ppople. who can afford the change with all trie dainty accessories that usually accompany any radical costume. If you could not have afford ed the dainty silk hose and the velvet or suede pumps, what a. failure your hobble gown would have been. Women make a mistake when they take new styles into places where they ha\*e never been shown before. Drop ping Into Market street In a harem »klrt before that style has been intro- duced there, would be as startling to the masses as the fox is to hounds when they raise their hue and cry. Why rave ami rant over what is bound to come, if not for a year and a day, for a time at least? Wear the new styles with reason and you will ?ause people to wonder what they ever found In them that wa& ridiculous. Givs Her Free Rein Catherine Stewart, 117 West Seventh Street, Haufnrd What shall we do with the harem Skirt?' Consider It, of course, care fully, logically, without prejudice, as being one of the questions of the day, a direct product of our growing civiliza tion. It is merely a phase, to be sure, but as such should have due considera tion. No fair minded woman will dis miss a subject merely because she is not particularly Interested in the prob lem it presents, but, on the contrary, will consider it for the benefit of others who are more vitally concerned. It is but a few years since woman rame Into her own. and if she is a little hasty in her conclusions and uncertain as to her purposes, who shall blame her? She is still a bit giddy from the success of her strike for liberty and a trifle breathless from the efforts she has put forth. Time was when she was the chattel of her lord and master and whs the living embodiment^ of his ideas, the result of what he* deemed proper for her kind. 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