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California and Stanford Primed for Football Duel
Young Giants, Trained to the
Minute, Are Ready to
Fight It Out
Honors Appear to Be Fairly
Even, Although the Unex
pected May Happen
For six years the Rugby football !
teams of California and Stanford have
met, the results of these six games
giving each university three wins. '
Tod*y the seventh game is to be played
on California field at 2:30 o'clock. Who
Is going to win the rubber?
The games played by each team during
the season gives the blue and gold
team an undeniable advantage on
paper, but whether this advantage can
be maintained today remains to be
Both teams have shown wonderful
ability as defensive machines, but on
the matter of attack the Stanford men
have shown to better advantage. It
Ie on this feature of playing that the
cardinal team is being considered In
many quarters as the team that will
win today's contest.
To put it in a nutshell. Stanford's ;
only chance of victory is for the back
field to play this sort of game. If
Stanford can carry out this orthodox .
method of work then the cardinal
rioters are going to serpentine Callfor- '
nia field this afternoon. i
Up to a late hour last night Cali
fornia field was in anything: but a good :
condition for the game. Mud was the
most noticeable thing on the ground,
though here and there a few lakes '
were also in evidence. It is probable
that the surface will be scraped and
turned over early this morning to give
th« sun a chance to dry it out. With
a heavy field. California will have an ;
advantage and the field will be against
open hack field work.
California field is said to be a. dis
advantage to the Stanford players.
This, however, is not borne out by the
number of games played on the loam ;
surface. In all, four battles have been j
fought at Berkeley, today's contest
making the fifth. In the four games
Stanford has won three—namely, in
3904, 1906 and 190S—while California
> has only been victorious on its own
field—once in 1910. This surely gives
the lie to the assertion that California
has the advantage at home.
There is, however, a possibility of
rain today, and if this is the case Cali
fornia will have an advantage. On a
heavy, muddy field it is an impossi
bility to handle the ball properly, the
passing being split by inability to
hold the ball, and fumbles are the rule
rather than the exception. California
had the greatest lesson •on a muddy
field that they could ever wish for
when they played the Australian
"vVaratah team in the first game. On
that day the Australians won by their
ability to play the ball with their
feet and keep it under control in this
In the second game against Austra
lia the California team won from the
Waratah men and it was on their drib
bling as much as anything else that
the blue and gold came out on top.
The lessons learned in the first game
were eagerly and quickly absorbed by
the members of the varsity squad.
Stanford has not had the same ad
vantage of playing under these condi
tions and has not at any time during
the season shown that the forwards
can use their feet to the same advan
tage as the rival fifteen. California is
undeniably the better dribbling team
and has a concerted attack with this
method of advancing the ball.
It will require what is known as
"pep" to win today's game. This ele
ment is a big asset to a team and it
requires condition of the teams to show
this feature to best advantage. Cali
fornia has for some years past had a
reputation for being possessed of all
sorts of "pep." The blue and gold
never let up in their fight, and even
when the tide la against them it is this
self same "pep" that gives the men
such a wonderful burst of speed at the
finish of the games.
"vTill the refereeing make an appre
ciable difference in the playing of the
two teams? Both universities have
sampled Referee Hill's methods and
should be conversant with the style of
game that he whistles. Hill will offi
ciate under strict Rugby union rules,
and as the rules committee of the two
universities have made no change in
the rule on a "try" the teams will have
to touch the ball down to score. In
previous years the California and Stan
ford definition of a try was to the ef
fort that a "try shall be awarded at
the point where the ball is fairly held,"
that is, after crossing the goal line.
Hill is one of thfc best referees in
the world today rulings are at
all times consistent. He 1s strict to the '
letter of the law, but his knowledge
of the game is such that his decisions
give a fast game. The "advantage
rule" is one that is not properly inter
preted by local referees and it is Hill's
erf-at knowledge on this law that will
keep the ball and the players in ac- '
tion every minute of play.
The honor and glory of winning this
game is what the two university teams
want, but the winner will gain further
honors this afternoon. Yesterday
• 'harles G. treasurer and gen
eral manager of Iceland Stanford Jr.
university, donated a handsome silver
trophy to be competed for by the two
big teams.
This trophy is to be contested for
annually, the team winning it three
times out of five to 'take permanent
possession of the silver prize. It will
be held each year by the winning team.
The trophy is a silver Rugby football
weighing 50 ounces. It rests on a
handsome ebony case, round which
are five silver shields and laurel
wreaths. The names of the winning
team will be engraved on these shields
consecutively. The trophy is the de
sign and work of John Hammersmith.
Stanford team left the campus yes
terday morning and reached the St.
Mark hotel in Oakland about noon.
In the afternoon the members of the
aggregation were taken to the theater
to take their minds off the coming ket
tle as much as possible. Trainer Ma
loney ordered an early adjournment to
bed and this morning the men will be
kept as quiet as possible.
In the California camp quietness will
also be insisted on. The over enthusi
astic students and supporters will not
be allowed to disturb the peace of the
team and the men will be kept away
from the influences of the campus en
thusiasm as much as possible.
The diagram is drawn to scale and represents the field 110 yards long by 75 yards wide. The placing of the men in the diagram is the Australian method of placing the players to fak
off and to receive the kick off. The California players are shown in positions ready for the kick off, while the Stanford men are placed in the Australian style to receive the kick- In today's game
the placing will he but slightly different to this. The limited space has made it necessary to set some of the positions a little deeper than would actually be the case in a game.
Battles on Gridiron 'Tween
Cardinals and Blue and Gold
Record of all games played by California and Stanford, showing
the date on which each game was played, the winner, scores, the ground
and the estimated attendance at every game since the inception of the
series :
Date. Winner. Scores. Played* at Attendance.
March 19, S. C.
1502.... Stanford 14—10 Height street, S. F 6,000
Dec. 19,
1892 Tie 10—10 Halght Htreet, S. F 7.500
IS!>3 Tie 6— 8 Height street, S. F 8,500
1894. .. .Stanford 6— 0 Haight street, S. F 9,000
1895 Tie 6— 6 Central park. S. F 9,500
1890 Stanford 20— 0 Central park', S. F 10,000
1897. . . .Stanford 28— 0 Harrison street, S. F 10,500
1598.... California .... 0—22 Harrison street, S. F 11,000
1599. . . .California o—3o Folsom street, S. F 12,000
1900. . . .Stanford 5— 0 Folsom street, S. F 12,000
2d. Sat. in
IJ>OI. .. .California 0— 2 Folsom street, S. F .12,500
1902. . . .California o—lβ Richmond District, S. F. . . .13,000
1003 Tie 6— 6 Richmond District, S. F.. . .13,500
1904 Stanford 18— 0 California field 14,500
1905.... Stanford 12— 5 Stanford 13,000
UK»e Stanford 8— 3 California field 15,000
1907. . . .Stanford 21—11 Stanford 12,000
190K Mnnfi.nl 12— 3 California Held Tc.mh)
1900. . . .California 13—19 Stanford 14,000
Jl»10. . . .California 8—25 California field 21,000
1911 California 3—21 Stanford 18,000
1912 California field (approx.) . .22,500
Total games played, 21.
Won by Stanford, 10; points scored, 192.
Won by California, 7j points scored, 195.
Tie games, 4.
Total attendance, 281,500.
Approximate total receipts, f 583,000.
Rugby Rules Simple
And Easy to Grasp
One Glance at This and the Outsider Should Be
Able to Follow Big Battle
The rules of Rugby football are
simple- and explicit, but for the
benefit of the uninitiated The Call
herewith gives a * condensed ver
sion of the principal rules and ex
pressions used in the game:
The game is played with 15 men
aside, divided off into two main eec
tions known as "backs" and "for
wards." In the back field there is the
fullback. In front of him are three
men known as "three-quarters," who
are also designated as the '"scoring
line." In front of these men are two
more players etyled the '"five-eights
backs." It is the duty of these two
men to open up the game to such an
extent that the three-quarters axe
given an opportunity to score. The
other back field man is the pivot of
the side and stands right behind the
scrum and passes the ball out to the
five eighths men. This man is known
as the halfback. The back field is
composed of seven players. The for
ward division contains eight men, who
are constantly following the ball all
over the field, the back field men more
or less keep to certain locations on
the field, but always ready to receive
a pass and make an attempt to score.
♦ « »
The object of the game is to score
"tries." which are the equivalent-of a
"touch down" in the American game.
A "touch down" in the Rugby code is
equal to a "safety." or a "touch back"
in the American game, with the excep
tion that no points are scored for
either side by a "touch down" in
Rugby. When a side has scored a
i "try" it counts three points. The
scoring side then has the privilege of
making an attempt to kick a goal
from "placement," and if successful
two more points are scored, making a
total of five points.
A goal kicked from the field dur
ing the running progress of the play
is known as a "field goal," or a
"dropped goal" and counts four points.
A goal made from a mark or a penalty
kick scores three points.
* ♦ #
A "try" is scored by the player who
first puts his hand on the ball when
behind his opponent's goal line. It
is not necessary for the player to
fall with the ball, his hand will score
the try if the contact is made with
the ground.
* * *
A "mark" Iβ a fair catch made at
the first attempt Marks can be made
from a kick, a throw forward or a
knock on.
* * *
Probably the most important rules in
the Rugby code are the off side rule and
the proper interpretation of the rule
known as the "advantage rule." This
simply means that if a side commit a
breach of the rules the play shall con
tinue if the opposing side gain, an ad-
I vantage from the fault of the side com-
I mitting it. If this advantage is not
gained then the referee whistles for a
scrum, or whatever the penalty may
be. Tomorrow it will be noticed that
on many occasions either California or
Stanford may make a forward pass, or
"knock the ball forward," and the play
will continue if la the referee's; opinion
The Charles C. Lathrop trophy j
that rvill he contested for today for \
the first time.
CHOICE AT 10 to 9
Thousand)* of dollar* were de
ported with commissioner* Tom
Corbet* yesterday on the big
irnitic, Tvith California the favor
ite at odds of 10 to A. The con
dition of the California field had
ii hie siiy In the laying- of the
oilrin and California varsity waft
made the favorite on the ground
condition. The In«»s registered
were mostly email ones, though
there were many more of sub
stantial dimensions. The InrK
est one laid during the day was
91.000 to •*'•<•<> on the blue and
Rold. Stanford and California
men were in and out'of Corbctt'e
all day, and Nome nre *r<>lns: to
live on coffee and nlnkcrs at one
or the other institution for many
moons to come after thi* after
the opposition gain an advantage from
the breach.
■* # *
A player Is placed off side If he
enters the scrum from his opponents
A player Is off side If the ball has
been kicked, touched or Is being run
with by one of his own side behind
An offside player shall not play the
ball nor actively or passively obstruct
an opponent.
It is the duty of an offside player
to retire outside a radius of 10 yarda
when his opponent receives the ball.
An offside player can intercept a.
pass from one of the opposition.
A player can be off side in his op
ponents "in goal," but not In his own.
An offside player is put on side when
an opponent lias run five yards with
the ball, or when the ball has been
kicked or has touched an opponent, or
when one of his elde hap run In front
of him after having kicked the ball
from behind.
The penalty for an offside play is
a free kick at the mark of the offside
play, or the captain of the team re
ceiving the penalty can take a scrum
at the point from where the kick was
# * *
Free kicks are awarded for, off side,
handling the ball in the scrum, not
putting the ball down on the ground
when tackled, when a player does not
get up off the ball on the ground after
a tackle, when a player of the oppo
site side prevents a player getting off
the ball when a player obstructs or In
terferes with the opposition and when
the referee considers that the contin
uation of play would be dangerous.
# ♦ *
"Ball in touch ,, means when the ball
has been kicked from the field of play
across the touch lines at the side of the
'Ball in touch in goal ,, means when
the ball has crossed the lines
after passing the goal line. The corner
flags are -touch in s*oal."
# ♦ ♦
"A knock on" or a "throw forward"
a.r» both punishable- with a ecrum. A
Facts and Figures of Game
For Reference by Rooters
Kick off, 2:30 o'clock.
Time nf hnlvcn. 40 minutes.
Hescrvfd (teals sold, 22.."<:0,
Standing room ticket* only on sale at eround, and only limited number
for siilc.
Tickets sr«» on saie at 12 o'clock.
Gates open at 12 for both reserved sections and standing room.
Special Key Route and Southern Pacific boats will be run, landing
the public within a few blocks of the California Held.
Referee of the contest, W. W. Hill of Australia.
Touch judges—Larry Dfryer of the Australian team, L. S. Reading of
the California Rugby union referees' committee.
Time keepers—Judge Everett Brown (California), Dave Brown (Stan
ford), brothers.
"knock on ,, means propelling the ball
With the hand In the direction of the
opponents goal line. A "forward pass"
Is throwing the ball toward the oppo
nent's goal line.
* * *
A "scrum" can be formed by one or
more players of both sides closing
round the ball. The scrum as known
more generally to the public is when
the eight forwards of each side bend
down from the hips and the ball is
placed between the front rows of the
two teams.
* * *
"The Ruck" is practically a loose
ecruni where the players of both sides
are round the ball attempting to ad
vance the ball by kicks or dribbling
methods. There is no set formation to
a ruck.
* • *
"Dribbling the ball" means advancing
the ball in the direction of the oppo
nent's goal line by a series of short
snappy kicks. The ball is generally
controlled by two or more players in
this method, and when a player of the
opposition attempts to take the ball
from the toes of the man dribbling,
a clever dribbler can pass the ball
with his foot to his teammate who
continues the dribble.
Supreme Confidence Is
The Byword in Camps
Of the Rival Ruggers
Confidence relgne supreme In the
camps of the rival universities. The
captains, managers, coaches and train
ers look upon the situation through
the eyes of men who can discern noth
ing but a victory. Referee W. W. Hill
is very conservative and will not ven
ture an opinion. Following are the
statements of the principals:
I am proud of the little band that
will represent Stanford, and when the
last of the 80 minutes of play Is up, I
hope to lead those 15 men off the field,
victors. We have a hard game ahead
of us, but If the Stanford spirit and
determination counts for anything,
then we are going to win.
The team is prepared to give Stan
ford the battle of Its life. If Stanford
wins, it will have to walk over 15 men
to do so.
I am disinclined to discuss the sit
ported Interviews with me in other
poted Interviews with me in other
papers never took place, and are un
authorized. These so styled Interviews
are incorrect in every detail, and as
referee of the game, I do not consider
it right that I should make any state
ment bearing on the contest.
The game is hanging in the balance.
California has a good fighting chance.
We have no stars, but if every man
gives his best California will have
no cause for regret.
If the California team and rooters
give all that is in them, California has
a great fighting chanoe. It will take I
everything that every man has to
win."- -> ; ; . ( v
The California team" is in as near
physical condition as it is possible for
•15 individual men to be. .".We have
had j our. hard knocks and I' am thank
ful to say that all of the men have
recovered. We are up against a bunch
of ..veterans and we .expect a hard
game. We are in condition to stand a
hard A game and to play.; a \ hard • game
in'; return. -'■ We hope to win. '> ..', <*« a £
*'Stanford men .realize that we have
to| fight » from start to finish. The
various-reports from : the Berkeley
campus have * failed 'to mislead us and
we; are ■ out to Ifight hard and"square
or the c honors. We fully realize the
strength of the California team in both
attack -; and defense.
'*' - ' .. FORD
All the men are in : the best condi
tion. They - are r#ady and; fit to play
the I full 80 minutes without a break.
We have j had , a few; rather serious in
juries during the: season, but they are
all ancient history now, and every
man will go Into ; the field sound as a
bell. 1 We realize that we have to play
hard to ; win \ from ; start; to; finish. The
men are not overconfident, ; but we feel
that we have a better chance of victory
than last j year. *;,--■ . . *
Loyal Rooters Travel
Many Miles to Cheer
! For Their Alma Mater
The "big game" season of the year
Is one season more than any other
that attracts alumni of both California
and Stanford to this coast. From all
quarters of the country the former
men of these universities flock in
droves. This country is not the only
section of the globe that sends the
old timers back to see the big foot
ball game, and tomorrow there will be
a Stanford alumnus in the person of
former Graduate Manager J. M. Swltzer,
who has specially made the trip all the
way from far away Philippine Islands.
Many others have come from New York
and other distant points.
Last night every cafe in the city en
tertained parties of California
and Stanford men. The whole town
was alive with the college spirit The
largest gatherings were at the Press
club, where the alumni of Stanford
congregated, and at the Commercial
club, where the California university
alumni were brought together to fight
over the old battles and discuss the
coming conflict.
At the Prees club the entertainment
was carried out under the guiding
spirit of H. C. Hoover '95, Shirley
Baker '95 and Charles K. Fields 95.
During the evening these and many
other old timers gave reminiscences of
the early days of Stanford.
The Stanford German band was In
evidence and B. H. Laskey, W. L. Lewis.
A. H. Fowles and Yell Leader "Skin"
Wilson formed a quartet that waa
worked overtime in rendering the vari
ous college songs.
Cardinal, However, May Prove
a Surprise in a Free,
Open Game
Australian Expert Looks for a
Fierce Struggle Between
the Giants
(Vice Captain of "Waratahs)
Speculation is rife concerning the
prospective result of today's lons
looked for encounter. Most of the
dopesters are bewildered in their en
deavors to sum up the comparative po
sition of both sides and a probable
Stanford has displayed such erratic
form in the games of late that the
question arises as to its present condi
tion. Have they gone stale, or is it
only one of those unaccountable slumps
that from time to time are likely to
overtake any side and from which at
tack a team is likely to emerge at
any moment and stand out brilliantly?
Will Stanford throw off that cloud
and display their dash and vigor to
If so the cardinal has a good winning
chance. The consideration of the mo
ment is, perhaps, how will the playing
field work out? At dusk yesterday it
was in an extremely bad state. Pools
of water were plentiful and the oozy,
sticky mud altogether too bad for a
decent exposition of the Rugby game.
Probably the management will get
busy, scrape the field and break up the
surface again. But should the field
turn out to be heavy I expect the game
to go in California's favor.
California has proved Itself ob
servant and adaptable. On the wet,
heavy field against the Australians in
the first game they knew but little of
dribbling and wet weather tactics, but
four days later their attempts at drib
bling were extremely creditable.
Stanford is, I think, somewhat Inex
perienced at such methods, and If the
close dribbling style of play is thejsr
der of the day the blue and gold should
make good.
On the other hand, if the game is
fast and open, with a dry ball and the
back division given a chance to show
up. I do most certainly favor Stanford's
chance to bring home the bacoru
A great deal depends upon who
will gain possession of the ball from
the scrums. This department of the
game is weak on both sides, and I am
afraid the heeling will be slow, with
possible trouble from the breakaways
getting "offside" around the scrum.
There is sure to be a little over
keenness on both sides, much fumbling
will occur and providence will no doubt
play an important part in the result.
The side that can keep cool, col
lective and patient Cwhlch Is a diffi
cult matter), make less mistakes and
support one another In either attack
or defense is going to get th* big end
of the score.
DES MOINES, la., Nov. B.—The most impor
tant football game In the Missouri valley this
week will be staged at tbe Drake stadium tomor
row. Drake and Missouri will clash.
# # *
SPOKANE. Wash., Nov. B.—Washington State
college and Whitman college will meet here In
their annual football battle tomorrow. The teams
are remarkably well matched in weight, Whit
man having an advantage of one pound per man.
As It has rained nearly all week, the game will
be played on a muddy field and a punting duel is
NEW HAVEN, Conn.. Not. B.—Tile playe
Brown tomorrow on Yale field, it being the latt
home game but one for the blue. The Yale team
did not play la?t Saturday on account of the
death of York, the right guard, and as practice
for several days was suspended, there is aotne
apprehension on the nart of the Eli followers that
the team may have been set back in its develop
Tlie practice the last week has been strenuous,
under tbe watchful eyes of a big squad of former
Eli stars as coaches.
Shevlin. a former All American end, has put
ginger into the practice and has brought on from
the west several new offpnplre plays, probably
none of which, however, will be used tomorrow.
ALAMEDA. Not. B.—The Alameda high school
Rugby team will play its flnal came of the sea
son tomorrow morning, weather permitting.
The locale will be opposed by the Belmont
school team. The game was originally sched
uled to be played at Recreation park, but owing
to the improvements being made there, the con
teet !■ billed for Lincoln park.
CHICAGO. Not. 8 —Joe Tinker, shortstop at
the Chicago Nationals, miy yet go to Cincin
nati a« manager, according to his desire and
that of Garry Herrmann, owner of the Cincin
nati team. Cfcarlen W. Murphy, president of the
Chicago club, denied that negotiations for the
Tinker trade were off.
NEW YORK. Nov. B.— The English system of
refereelng N>xini» motels, with th« oftieUl ait
ting nntsidp the ropes, i« a thing of the paat la
the New York boxing cluhs.
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