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AUTOMOBILE NEWS . SECTION SOUTH STRONG FOR INTERCITY ROAD CONTEST ios Angeles Motorists Eager to Hold Race From Home Town to San Francisco Project for Annual Event to Supplant Phoenix Match Meets With Approval LEON J. PINKSON WHI San Francisco come to the front and support the project for a road race between this city and Los An geles? iThis question is now being freely adsked in motoring circles between this city and the orange belt metropolis, and if the local enthusiasts come out In favor of the run it is most cer tain that one of the best and most interesting automobile contests ever recorded In motor car history will take place. The run will not only stimu late increased interest in the automo bile, bat will do much to bring Cali fornia and her glorious roads before the motoring public of the country and will attract hundreds of motor car tourists to this state. Strange as it might seem, it is gen erally believed in the east that but a few miles separate San Francisco from Los Angeles. This wrong impression would be quickly corrected when the press of the country would tell of the 600 mile intercity race, and these ac counts would also create Interest in the fine mountain and valley country by the course. The Los Angeles boosters, ever alert to bring their section of the country into the limelight, are working hard on the intercity race project and are anxious to secure the co-operation of San Francisco in order to make the event a national classic and one that would rival in point of interest even the Vanderbilt and Grand Prize events. It was first suggested by the south erners who advanced the idea of hold ing the run, that the coast route be selected, but It is now generally agreed upon that a course coming up the San Joaquin valley by way of Bakersfleld and Fresno and then crossing the Pacheco pass Into the Santa Clara val ley and up the peninsula to San Fran cisco Is the more preferable. It is argued that some of the valley cities would douhttless give prize money for the first cars to reach the respective towns, and with a substantial prize for the final victor of the event the race would be one that would attract a big field of entries. Th© southerners point with pride at the success of the recent desert races en Los Angeles to San Diego to Phoenix, and firmly believe that an event of the same character between San Francisco and Los Angeles would be a far greater success. The tentative plans for the Intercity run provide that the race be started from the southern city about June or July of the coming year and end in San Francisco. It is then suggested that the race be repeated in 1914, with Los Angeles as the finish, and a third race be run in 1915 from the south and to finish in the world's fair grounds. Some idea of the interest that would be displayed in an Intercity contest may be secured from the reception given Charles Soules in his recent record breaking drive, when he clipped 40 minutes off the Los Angeles-San Francisco record in the 1913 Cadillac car in which he finished second the week before in the Phoenix desert race. When Soules reached Bakersfleld the whole town turned out to greet him. The streets were lined with people and the police, instead of arresting the Cadillac man for fast driving, were giving their attention to keeping the roads clear so he could go faster. At Fresno it was the same story. The chief of police there sent an automobile load of police out on the road to meet Soules and keep the road clear through town. It was the same story in every town. The people were with the speeding autoist and helped him in every way. Don Lee, California Cadillac distrib uter, who has been advocating a race between Los Angeles and San Fran cisco for the last few years, Is more than ever In favor of the contest, and 6ays he will enter at least two cars in the race whenever a date is agreed upon. He says the southerners are anxious to call the contest the Panama- Pacific road race. Discussing the race, Lee says: "Such an event would be without doubt the greatest automobile race in the history of the motor car. It would attract •worldwide attention to California and would also be a good thing for the dealers. The cars would go through our territory and not across a barren desert, as they do In the Phoenix race. "The people up the valley would be strong for such a race, and it would be an easy matter to raise a purse of $20,000 in the valley towns. Los An geles win donate liberally, and I am sure San Francisco would also be gen erous. It would be easy to obtain per mission to race over the roads." NEW MANAGER FOR PATHFINDER COMPANY Barry Cool, formerly of Los Angeles, who has just been appointed manager of the northern California branch of the Pathfinder Motor Car company, with headquarters in San Francisco, has assumed his duties and is most enthusiastic over the prospects for the coming season In this vicinity. Cool was formerly manager of the Hudson agency in Los Angeles ami was also associated with the Cadillac and Lozier people. He is anxiously awaiting the arrival of the first of the 1913 Path finder models and will then begin an active sales campaign. GRAMM TRUCK AS BRAZILIAN OMNIBUS The lack of railroads in some of the South American countries promises to open an entirely new field for motor trucks. Where steam and electric rail roads have not penetrated and local and interurban transportation is proving a serious problem, the motor truck fills a long felt want. The Gramm Motor Truck company of Lima, 0.. recently shipped a two ton truck, which is to be used as a 20 passenger omnibus, to Brazil, where a firm of Americans has undertaken to establish a transporta tion service. Motorcycle* Replace Horses—Farm ers near St. Joseph, Mo., who recently lost their horses by an epidemic are replacing them with, motorcycles. Motorists of Southern California Eager to Have Northern Enthusiasts Support Plan for Los Angeles-San Francisco Road Race During 1913 Barney Oldfield as he will appear 1 at the wheel of his Christie in to- \ day's meet at Tanforan. OLDFIELD TO RACE TODAY AT TANFORAN Court Refuses to Restrain Pilot; Exciting Speed Program Promised Barney Oldfield won a decisive vic tory over Bob Burman in the superior court yesterday when Judge J. M. Sea well refused to restrain the veteran driver from holding his exhibition meet at Tanforan today. The row be tween the two racing pilots drifted into court In Friday when E. A. Moross, manager for Bob Burman, applied for an Injunction to prevent Oldfield from holding his speed carnival, alleglr.g that the latter had failed to live up to a contract made in Texas in 1910 to re tire from the racing game and from using certain makes of racing cars. The hearing of the petition yesterday morning resulted In the judge denying an Injunction and in sarcastically com menting that there appeared to be little merit in the suit. Oldfield, who was certain of a vic tory, did not stop in making his final arrangements for today's exhibition, which promises to be a lively and ex citing meet. Oldfield will endeavor to set some new dirt track records with his 300 horsepower front drive Christie car, which he says is the fastest ma chine in the world today. The Christie presents a wierd, un canny appearance and shoots in and out of the short turns of a dirt track like some mad beast of the menagerie escaping from its keeper. On the San Jose track, muddy and dangerous, Old field, on last Tuesday, lowered the world's record for the mile distance. The car is so powerful and the ex plosions of the engine ao terrific, it can not be cooled sufficiently to travel more than two miles. Oldfleld's part of the program will overshadow the other six events so far as sp«d and the spectacular are concerned, but the competitive events are filled with many noted drivers and fast cars. Earl Cooper, the sensa tional Stutz pilot, who won two of the big races at San Jpse Tuesday, has his oar tuned faster than before and de clares he will show the way home in three of the races. Fred Malone with the big Benz, Harry Goetz with his Cino Whirlwind, Gaston Maurice in his Renault, Edwards in the R. C. H., Schmltz in the Buick, and King In the Maxwell are some of the entrants in the six events. P. J. Walker, official A. A. A. repre sentative, will referee the meet. John Hammersmith and William Kllnger will be chief timers, and Frank Carroll will wield the starter's flag. W. L Hughson, Ed Brlneger, Chester Weaver and Sid Starr are scheduled as the judges. James Coffroth, Tom Jones, H. O Harrison and Don Lee are the other timers. The first race will be called at 2:30 p. m. Arrangements have been made ior special trains and electric cars to Tan foran. „ „ The program will be as follows: Event No. 1-Five miles, open to nonstock cars. 230 Inches and under. E. C. IL. drivenby A J Edwards; Buick. driven by J. W. Schmidt, Maxwell, driven by "Whirlwind" King. Event No 2—Five miles, nonstock, °P«. to cars, 450 coble incbes displacement and/lnWr. Prince Henry Bens, driven by Fred Malotw. Cino driven by Harry Goetz; Stuti driven by Earl Cooper; Bnick. J. W. Schmidt. EvenrNo. 3-One mile against Tanfonu. track record Barney Oldfield. driving 300 horsepower Christie; Gaston Maurice, driving Edward MaJer s Beoault "Select Kid." _„.,.~v Event No. 4—Five miles, free for all nonstock. Earl Cooper, drying «■*: Harry Go * t !L l i r ' Tl J* Cino Whirlwind; Prince Henry Ben, driven by Fred Malone; Buick, driven by J. W. Schmidt. Event No! 5-Two mile exhibition against world's circular track record of 1:^ 3 - s _™"°* by Oldfield at Cleveland, September 14. B»rney Oldfield. driving Christie; Qaatou Maurice, driving Renault "Select Kid." , Event No. 6—Twenty-five miles, free-for.su. cars 450 inches and under. Earl Cooper in £tutz Harry Goers, In Cino; Fred Malone. in Prince Henry Benz; J. W. Schmidt, in Buick. BIG MILEAGE RECORD FROM FIRESTONE SOLIDS P. C. "Holland, a local hauling con tractor, has just sent a most flattering letter to Manager Bell of the local branch of the Firestone Tire and Rub ber company, in which he tells ef the splendid service that he is getting from the Firestone Solid tires with which his trucks are equipped. He says that in the hard and rough work his trucks are subjected to he Is getting an un usual mileage out of the Firestone equipment. Marlon Car for Police Official—The Marion Motor Car company has just de livered one of its small touring cars to Corporal J. C. Fields of the San Fran cisco police department. Fields is plan ning to make a number of short tours In- the new car in the near future. THE CALL SAN FRANCISCO, SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 1912. Burman s high powered Benzen Blitz racing car (upper). Harry Coelz in the Cino whirlwind (lower left); Earl Cooper in his Stutz car (lower right). These cars and drivers will appear at today s meet at Tanforan. EAST SHOWS KEEN INTEREST IN FAIR The whole country Is planning to be here for the 1915 exposition. Such, at least, is the opinion of Mr. and Mrs. John Tonningsen, who spent the sum mer motoring about the eastern states and part of Canada, carrying an expo sition banner on their car. "Wherever they went the flag attracted attention and questions as to the great fair were flung at them from all sides. Usually the questioner wound up by declaring "I'll be there In 1915." The Tonningsens received their car, a 40 horsepower Haynes, at Montclair, N. J., where they were staying with relatives. They traveled in it to every watering place of note in that vicinity, and declare New Jersey's roads are un surpassed in this country. '. "Everybody seemed to be enthused by seeing a car from California," says Mrs. Tonningsen. "If the enthusiasm shown by the people all through the New England states and eastern Can ada, especially Quebec and Montreal, is any criterion of the crowds that are going to come here In 1915, we will not have house room for one-tenth of them. "The roads In New Jersey, New York and Massachusetts are in excellent con dition. Most of the main roads are asphalt. Pennsylvania is still behind In respect to roads, but they have started and in another year there will be no difficulty in going from Phila delphia to the battlefields over the Llginoir grade to Pittsburg, and from there the roads are excellent west ward." aa»»»»wKB8B»tirl^Bli8B8W MM BMBBssW BB%"?Bm\. '''.em Br-<£}WBm B H IBiESSKn HBal ■wH BMatltiOl Ki¥paawß I ■I Hisssal Litaßi E^KIiH ■ EKtraag rH»sHr^"^^H BBEZEgm -ffIEE bWS- t i3sr"aWaaal bM I l^VwliaiV u H^'ri ,l>; 'l?lKHi lawS. 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Gilbert, the western district manager, who will be with them for the entire trip. These conferences will be at tended by the branch managers and salesmen. The Portland conferences will be held November 23 and 24, and from there they will move south, spending the 26th and 27th in San Francisco. The 29th has been set aside for Fresno, and from there the route will lead to southern California. The Los Angeles conference will last throe days, November 30 and 31 and December 2. December 3 will find the United States officials at the extreme southern end of the state, where con ferences will be held In San Diego. NOTED RACING MEN IN BURMAN CAMP Bob Burman, the world's speed king, will make his first appearance in this vicinity'at a race meet to be run at the Emeryville track In Oakland a week from today. Burman will drive his famous Blitzen Benz, the fastest car in the world. In addition to the speed king, Joe Horan, for several years the star of the Lozier team, with Ralph Mulford as team mate, will also be seen here for the first time on the coast. Horan will drive the celebrated Mercedes of Camile Janatzy, rated at 200 horsepower. This is the car with which the celebrated Pole drove his sensational kilometer at Ostende, Bel gium, in 16 2-5 seconds, which lowered the kilometer of Oldfield, made at Day tona, and which Burman later placed at 15.88. Tony Janette will pilot the 120 horse power Benz with which Bruce Brown won the Grand Prix at Savannah. Janette was a team mate of Bruce Brown and of Wagner In the European Grand Prix, run in France last June. Harkins of the Chadwick team, who with Len Zengle, took down the Fairmont park race two years ago, will pilot a speedy racer with a record of 5:14 for 10 miles at Daytona, Fla. This car also won the Fairmont park race and was used in the last Grand Prix. Walter de Coursey will pilot the Dar racq 100 horsepower monster with which Wagner won the Vandervilt cup race and with which one year later Hemery did the same trick, and with which Demogeot covered two miles in less than one minute at Florida. Bob Burman, speed £rng, in his conventional racing garb in which he will appear next week- NEW DRESS FOR LATEST REO CARS The 1913 Reo cars are coming out In a new dress. The latest models to ar rive have been finished in a beautiful Brewster green, with fine red hair i striping:. In speaking; of the change In finish, Norman de Vaux, head of the Reo-Paciflc company, coast agents for the Reo, says: "The Reo factory has changed the color used in painting its cars. The last few years It has used the black with French gray run ning gear. The latest models which we have just received, are finished in Brewster green. This again shows the close attention to detail and a keen appreciation of up to date refinement." 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Fiat Motor Sales Co. of California Van Ness Avenue at Jackson Street Telephone Franklin 7147 - FOR SPORTING NEWS SEE PAGES 57 TO 60 NEW LOZIER CAR IS WELL RECEIVED Manager Keip of, Local Factory Branch Gives Details of "Light Six" "la view of the fact that California has had nothing: but advance announce ments regarding: our "Light Six" we are certainly more than agreeably sur prised at the enthusiasm which has been shown," says Manager F. B. Kelp of the local Lozier branch. "The addi tion of this model makes our line quite complete and has filled a long felt want. "The 'type 77,* as the new member of the Lozier family has been desig nated, Is the latest creation of Chief Engineer John G. Perrin of the Lozier Motor company of Detroit, and em bodies absolutely all the latest 'eatures in automobile construction. The motor is of the new economical "small bore and long stroke" type, a design which on account of its exceptional power, flexibility and economical properties Is fast supplanting all others In the minds of most of the prominent Euro pean designers. "The 'type 77,' while smaller than the Lozier with which all motorists are familiar, will have the same sym metrical lines which have always made the Lozier so distinctive, and in addi tion to these lines the car is fitted with the new stream line body, which la the latest conception in body design at the Lozier factory and Is bound to meet with the approval of the public on account of its unusually gracefi»' appearance. "In designing this car Mr. Perrin and his associates endeavor to give to the American motoring public an automo bile which will be exceptionally light and economical and yet have the power, speed and endurance necessary for work of any kind. "This car is the product of three years of careful study and experiment ing by Mr. Perrin and now that he has accomplished his purpose in such » satisfactory manner he will spend th*. next three months in Europe making further search for design or suggec tion that may improve the Lozier.'' CHINESE MERCHANT IS A STODDARD OWNER Sing Woo, a wealthy merchant fr»«» Shanghai, China, recently orderei at 1913 Stoddard-Dayton "48" seven pas senger touring car from the Standard Motor Car company of this city. Con siderable difficulty was experienced in explaining the various features of the car to Woo, who speaks very little English.