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TUtS U AY MOHMSU:. :.:::;
:.:MAYDS.1S71.
As if Governor Baxter, of Arkansas, bad
notbcen troubled enough, he is no w afflicted
by a paragraph in the ifew York Sun
approving his course. He may make jip
bis mind, however, that the affliction is
temporary, as the Sun was never known to
indorse an lionest man except by mistake.
Aa will be perceived by a correspond
ence published in another column, Mr. H.
C. Ford, the business manager of Ford's
Opera House, in this city, has been ten
dered a complimentary benefit by many of
the most respectable citizens of Washing
ton. The compliment is both timely and
deserved, and we trust that the public will
Improve the opportunity offered to accord
to Mr. Ford a substantial acknowledg
ment of the esteem in which he is held by
our citizens as a gentleman and manager.
The benefit Is to take place on Tuesday
evening next.
Iw other columns will be found a sharp
correspondence between Dr. Blake and Mr.
Merrick, the paid counsel of the malcon
tents and obstructionists. The citizens ol
the District need no, information as to the
character of Dr. Blake. Through a long
life of usefulness he has won an enviable
position, and, -as he says, his "character and
reputation have not until now been assailed.
His sensitiveness on the point is entirely
justifiable, and the manner in which he
calls the hired attorney of the malcontents
to account will be approved by the majority
of his fellow-citizens. Dr. Blake's last
letter is a protest against the whole conduct
of 'the investigation upon the part of the
opposision, and is a just and proper rebuke
to Messrs. Merrick & Co. From the very
beginning they have pursued the most cow
ardly and infamous course that it was pos
sible to devise consorted with spies and
informers who have no regard whatever for
the solemnity of -an oath. Instead of hon
estly endeavoring to get at the truth and
apply a remedy where a remedy was
needed, the counsel for the memorialists,
aided by at least one member of the com
mittee, Mr. Wilson, have been guilty of
acts which would be sufficient to debar any
lawyer before any court in the country.
CUBA ANDTHE NEW YORK
WOULD.
The New York World combines an at
tack upon Governor Shepherd, Boss Tweed,
Senators Carpenter, Morton, aid Logan in
a long article, charging that the present ef
fort to obtain a recognition of the Cuban
republic by Congress is in reality an effort
to create a market price for Cuban bonds.
This is the old cry with which previous ef
forts in the same direction have been par
tially defeated; but it is raised this time in
vain. Judge Poland, in the House, as well
as the Senators mentioned, enjoy, and are
entitled to, the confidence of the country.
Their indorsement of the present movement
is sufficient to outweigh the scurrilous
blackguardism of the World, especially
when it is known that that journal is the
well-paid organ of the Spanish Government
in this country; that it is the journal which,
of all others, worked the hardest to sesuro
the release of the Spanish gunboats built
in American ship-yards, and rejoiced when
they were sent to Cuban waters to destroy
the chances of Cuban independence. The
World is notoriously a "jobbing" journal ;
ever ready to betray party and humanity,
provided it is paid for it. We have indi
cated its employers now.
MR. SAWYER AND THE SANBORN
BUSINESS.
We print this morning the statement of
Assistant Secretary Sawyer regarding his
official connection with tbs Sanborn con
tract business. It throws some additional
light on this much-talked-of and little un
derstood question. It is prepared not so
much by way of exculpation as by way of
explanation, and the object sought is evi
dently to put the Ways and Means Com
mittee on its guard regarding the blunder
which it has threatened to make in report
ing a resolution of censure. Mr. Sawyer
claims, as we have heretofore claimed, that
the only way In which the result of punish
ment can be reached. If punishment is de
served, is through the forms of impeach
ment. He docs not hesitate to court inves
tigation of his acts for the purpose of ascer
taining his amenability to Impeachment,
btit explains in a satisfactory manner how
if was that he became connected with the
affair, and shows where the responsibility
for the alleged irregularities should lie. To
the casual reader this explanation will be
sufficient, but to one who studies It closely.
recalling all the lacts in the 'case, it will
amount to complete vindication. The
truth is, that the Treasury Department has
grown, in the ramifications of its wide
spread dimensions, to such an extent that
riD one man, or two men, or half dozen of
rten, can manage its details without relying
to a great extent upon the integrity and
discretion of subordinate officials. Mr.
Sawyer does not offer this as an excuse
for any apparent or alleged delinquency In
his official acts; bat it naturally suggests.
itself as incidentally connected with the
facts. It seems that the Ways and Means
Committee, for some unknown reason,
overlooked this and ignored it, while, tX
th'e'feame time, they must admit that in tho'
preparation of bills, in the preparation of
reports, and In the general management of
affairs intrusted to it, -bjunders have often
bced made for which individual members
hive not been held responsible, because tho
public knew,, and Ihe press has been gen
erous enough to admit, the possibility of
clerical errors. -
After all, the entire subject is one which
has been ventilated to no good purpose,
and possibly with no unselfish intent. It
was begun for the avowed object of amend
ing or repealing, as the case might. Juftify,
a,certain law of Congress; but the' investi
gation did not progress far until other in
terests. Indirectly connected with the origi
nal purpose, asserted themselrei Thought
ful of its dignity as the leading committee
of the House, its members allowed these
interests to assume such prominence in the
investigation and to occupy so much of their
reportregarding thesubject, that Sanborn,
lias been .made a political hero, a very.mar
tyr among his friends, and the public has
forgotten that the law under which his con
tracts were made has been the subject, of
examination, This. Is all wrongand ho
one knows It to be wrong, better than r the
-niembe'rs of tho committee themselves.
Nevertheless, they have partially commit-
ted themanlvA tn thn nwieUtftn tn nm.
sure, and they naturally feel dltlnclinedto
-oacic out." The best thing tftey can qo,
however. Is to let the matter drop,-unless
they have the boldness to do Mr. Sawyer
full Justice and give him tho benefit of a
ueciarauon mat he is in no way compro
mised. THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT.
The recent report of the Housejxmmiteo
regarding the Washington monument at
tracts widespread attention, and is tho sub
ject of general discussion'by the press. The
New York Tribune remarks that no good
citizen can read it without mortification.
Referring to the history of the effort to
erect it, the same Journal says: "Such a
" narrative of failure, indifferonco, neglect,
" and ingratitude may well make us doubt
" whether we are really a patriotic people."
The Tribvnt further says: "After Wash
ington's death a new scheme was devised,
"Congress asking and Obtaining from the
"widow or the illustrious patriot In 1709
"permission to deposit his remains beneath
"a marble monument to be set up at the
"capital. Thcro was -some further legisla.
"lion respecting this design, but no appro
priation was over made for it. The plan
"of a voluntary association of citizens for
"the collection of funds and the execution
"of the work was adopted in 1833, Chief
"Justice Marshall being its first president
"and ex-President Madison its secoad. The
"corner-stone of the obelisk which has so
"long reared its unfinished head on the
"banks of tho Potomac was laid July 4,
"1843, and the work was continued with
"tolerable regularity until 1834, when the
"funds were exhausted after the expendi-
"turo of $330,000. Since that tlmo only
'four feet have been added to tho height,
"of the monument (making its present ele-
"vatlon one hundred and seventy-four
"feet.) and the trifling contributions re
vived are scarcely more than enough to
"pay tho petty expenses (less than a thou
"sand dollars a year) of taking care of the
"property. The association holds a bal-
"ance of about $15,900, in cash and sccuri
"ties. New York has voted an approprhv
"tion of $10,000, conditioned upon the col
lection of enough money to complete the
"shaft. New Jersey has subscribed $3,000
"and Minnesota $3,000 on the same terms;
"and California, by a vote of the Legisla
ture, has resolved to give $1,000 a year
"until tho monument Is finished, but the
"treasurer of the society has not received
"the money."
When such a cynical and captious critic
of public men and public affairs as the
Tribune Indorses such a proposition as this,
it Is safe to assert that the appropriation
asked for may be made without Incurring
the disapproval even of the most hide-bound
economist But the Trlbunt is not alone in
its approval of tho scheme. From every
section of the country we receive similar
reports, and the almost unanimous verdict
of the people is that the monument should
cither bo completed or torn down. For
twenty years the frightful obelisk has stood
as a mark of shame to the country and as
an evidence of the ingratitude of our people.
This deplorable disgrace must be wiped
out; and, as it would but add to our infamy
to tear It down, the only remedy seems to
ba to complete It Let Congress make the
appropriation without delay, and without
fear that any one will object to It on the
ground of extravagance.
THE REitO YAL OF OL U8S.
Adolf Cluss was yesterday removed from
his position as a member of the Board of
Public Works, and Richard L. Hone nomi
nated in his place. The Judgment of the
whole country will approve this action
upon the part of the President. Mr. Cluss
has rendered himself incapable of serving
on the board. Having charged that work
was falsely measured, and the General
Government overcharged in the Improve
ments which have been made, there was no
other way out of the difficulty into which
he, by his blundering stupidity, his trench
ery, malice and ignorance combined, has
thrown the business of tho board, except by
his removal and the appointment of bis sue
cessor. Lieutenant Hoxie is an officer of
the engineer corps, a gentleman of unblem
ished reputation, and of a high order of
ability, and tho public may rest assured
that he will faithfully and honestly per
form the duties to which be has been called.
The action of the board itself is entirely
justifiable. Cluss had made it impossi
ble for him to discharge his duties.
For days and weeks, and almost months,
he has been in collusion with the enemies
of the board, playing tho policy of a spy
and informer, even going so fir as to com
mit perjury to serve his new-found friends
and if possible make out a case against his
former associates. The severe condemna
tion of the Board Is the judgment of
the city, and the resolutions adopted yes
terday will meet the approval of even those
who have used him for their own selfish and
cowardly purposes. Disgraced, perjured
and suborned, he has made his 'own infa
mous record of imbecility, treachery and
falsehood. It will stick to him.
SOUTHERN OPINION.
If tho Southern press be any Index to the
temper of the Southern people, the mental
and moral condition of that section must
be truly pitiable. For Instance, a Mont
gomery, Ala., Democratic organ, in a re
cent number, said : "A radical white man,
"North, and there is not and never has beed
"one single exception to the rule, which
"in Itself is most remarkable, has been and
"is either a dreaming optimist, an honest
"idiot, or the most rascally knave and
"traitor on earth... A radical white man
"South, except some carpet-bagger, know
"ing no better, is simply a human monster,
"parting with his patriotism and self-re-"spect
in the hope of ultimately reaching
"personal degradation in office under radl
"cal tyrants North and the radical negroes
"South." Of course, it is useless to argue
with a man who can deliberately utter
sentiments of this atrocious character. He
Is an unreasoning, irresponsible being,
whom it would be a charity to send to an
insane asylum. That this Montgomery
editor is not alone in his wild hatred of
Republicans South and North, it is only
necessary to look Into the columns of Jour
nals printed in Virginia, within a hundred .
miles of the National Capital. Commenting
on the passage of the civil rights bill, one
of them whose name, out of kindness, we
withhold, writes? "One idea in regard to
"this measure fsthat- the purpose of the
".Radicals in .passing' ft is toexcite disorder
"and .foment trouble -in- the South, to
'Justify renewed acts of"Federai,interfer
"ence with the liberties of the rehabilitated
"States, 'the employment of a large army,
"and the imposition of Federal machinery in
"the'process of the next national election."
And again: "It would be better, of course, to
"uproot the whole free-school system eat
"isfactory as have been its operations than
"to suffer" the .degradation of mixed white
' 'and eolorod schools. But it will ba time
"how-to consider these threatened evils
"when .the bill which contains them is
"brought nearer its passage." In other
words, better total ignorance and Intellec
tual degradation for life rather than the ad
mission pf the children or the poor blacks
to eoual advantages with their white follow-
citizens. Another lournalinthe sameStato'
declares the-clvll rights bill "Is worseif
"possible, than negro suffrage, and its eril
"efleqts will be more 'keenly and'disas
"tronsly felt in all theTclvll relations of life
"than all tho other wrongs that have been
"perpetrated upon as combined. Our pub
"lic schools will be ruined, our colleges
"will be. seriously impaired, and disorder
"and confusion between tho races will -ba
'otcasioried in other Important relations of
lire.'1 v The, last clause of the above sen
tence is extremely vague and needs expbv
nation. T '
A PROPER THING.
The request of Governor Shepherd and
his associates, yesterday transmitted to the
President, that he request the Secretary of
War to detail an engineer to remcasure the
work done by the board, was a very proper
thing to do, and 'one which ought to have
been -done at the outset of the investigation.
Tho action of the committee in selecting a
civilian stranger, open to partisan approfeh,
has only led to confusion; and has settled
nothing. Mr. Bllckensderfer, without
meaning it, has only muddled what he has
undertaken. Witness his report on the
grading of Twelfth street, the improvement
of which was completed two years ago, and
all landmarks and surface indications now
obliterated. Here he gives only some
21,000 yards of grading, when every school
boy knows that more than this amount was
taken out between G street and New York
avenue alone. Moreover, Mr, Bllckens
derfer has not been fortunate in securing
tho co-operation necessary to make full and
accurate measurements. He occupies no
legal status, and can establish nothing offi
cially. The National Homestead tor children of dead
soldiers, at Gettysburg, which baa been In cx-J
isteucc nine ycara, ubsikvu uuiu uviu nw,
supported entirely by voluntary contributions
and Sunday-school collections. It Is neither
sectional nor denominational. Bishop Simpson
of the M. E. Church is president of its board of
managers and directors ; its vice presidents and
directors are from almost every other branch
of the Christian Church. It has gathered Into Its
shelter and culture orphans bf dead soldiers
from seventeen States. The General Govern
ment Is, we believe, likely to come to its aid
now. Its representative (Rev Mr. Atkinson)
had a favorable hearing before the House Com
mittee on Appropriations last week, and we are
Clad to know that there Is every prospect that
It will receive the support to which It Is so
justly entitled from the General Government.
TnEat seems to be a row In the Centcnnla
management. The Philadelphia Telegraph,
which ought to know something about the
matter, says: "There are Just three things ne
cessary to render the Centennial International
Exposition project a complete and brilliant
success. First, the abandonment at once of
the idea that Congress is going to contribute
a dollar toward it; second, the dissolution of
the present commission and the appointment of
a managing body which will really represent
the people who are going to foot the bills; and,
third, the immediate and energetic prosecution
of the work upon the buildings."
Thb sexton of Trinity church, New York, is
not only an exemplary Episcopalian, bat a
shrewd business man. One of his perquisites
is a charge of twenty-five cents for every per
son, except clergymen, who ascends to the
steeple. A visitor the other day is said to have
claimed the usual clerical exemption when the
following colloquy took place. "Ton say you
are a elergymani" "res." "What kind of a
Clergyman!" "A Presbyterian." "Ohl I don't
consider Presbyterian clergymen as belonging
to the Church" and turned away in lordly dis
dain. Sbxatob Patterson, ot South Carolina,
has addretsed a letter to the Secretary of War,
asking that the order issued last year placing
Arlingtoi In charge of the Grand Army of the
Republic on Decoration Day be rescinded, If in
force, and if not in force that it be not re
newed. The letter Is printed in our Depart
ment and Capital column.
TBI Richmond Evening Heme is to be en
larged by its editor and proprietor, Past Grind
Chancellor W. H. Wade. 81nce the removal
of the State Journal back to Alexandria, the
Nevi finds it must spread itself somewhaMn
order to cover the entire field open to Its culti
vation. Mr. Wade is well-bred, both as editor
and printer. Industry, ebsrgy, and vigilance
will secure success.
POLITICAL NOTES.
Ex-Governor Seymour declines to be a can
didate for the Governorship of New York. The
Utlca Obierver, which first urged his nomlna
tion, announces that within an hour after he
saw his name thus used, he wrote to the Ob
tener office and exacted a nromlse that it be
withdrawn peremptorily. He insists that he
has done his share of public work and matt be
left to the undisturbed enjoyment or private
life.
Judge Asahel Peck, of the Supreme Court of
Vermont, seems to be a popular candidate for
the Republican nomination for Governor of
that State. The Rutland Herald says of him:
"He is not farmer enough to do him any good,
nor lawyer enough to hurt him, although In
both professions he stands ahead of all bis
peers, and is the right man in all others for
uovemor, unless we can Keep mm wnere lie
will do more good to bis State and her people."
A Sir. John H. James Informs the people of
sontn Carolina mat be is not at present a can-
dldate for Congressional honors, but that the
time will come when he shall wish to go to
Congress for the reason that hs is convinced of
the- right of the Southern people to claim
"about f 300 each for the slaves that were set
free." He thinks the time ts coming when
"our Northern and Western friends will see
the Justice of this, as no doubt many do al
ready." The proposal to abandon the Electoral Col
lege system for a plan to elect the President by
a direct vote of the people meets the approval
of the Hartford Timet. That Journal says the
present system is one of tbs " absurdities of
the past era," and hopes to lee the "com
pletion of oar national century celebrated bv a
reform which kicks over the boom-derricks of
onr political structure, and gives the working
people a chance at the real work in hand."
The inflation fever seems Jo be subsiding very
rapidly in the West. The Indianapolis Sentinel,
published at the capital of the State, which
was at one time almost wild on the subject,
gives this assurance of thejwonderful change In
public sentiment:. "Of all who formerly talked
Inflation, there are not a dozen prominent men
who now confess to it. The journals which ad
vocated it most loudly iare ceased, and many
of them are taking ground for resumption." ,
MISS FAITHFVLl OX AMSRICAS GIRLS.
Emily Falthfoll lends the following letter to
the editor of ths Iniioa Specittar: "Darin- my
recent visit to Vsistr collage 1 had a lone confer
istlon with tbs rasldsnt physician, Dr. Avery,
and the profsssor of astronomy, Maria Mitchell,
a woman whose reputation Is as crest In the New
World as Mrs. Sonwrrllle's was In the Old. Both
these ladles asiorrd me that the girls who
stndled the hardest at Vaar wars the health
iest.' They triced the bad health of American
women to Its true source the terrible severity
and extremes of climate combined with the on
wholesome habit or heating homes with furnaces
to the oxoloslon of any proper ventilation and the
wldeipread disinclination to physical eierelie of
any description. iTintnrt to add that the deli
cacy complained of Is also da to the fearful
rapidity with which our American cousins afply
the rule of doing 'smartly whatever they have la.
hand to thatrtnaals and to their Intemperate'nst
of load water throughost winter and summer, -.1
hopethil the excellent reply, which Dr. Clarij
has drawn trom his countrywomen will be wldfjy
read by those Interested la this Important sabJeoL'
II bears the same relation: to hla extravagant at
tack that;&Irs..0rrett-Aadt rscn's dignified and
praetlcsLanswer does, to Dr. .Maudsley's some
what one-sided assertions." r '
no w to jfxrjr jraiq; happy.
Place a young girl under the cars of a kind
hearted and graetrol woman? and she, uncon
sciously to herself; grows into a grace's! lady.
Place a boy in the establishment or a thorough;
going, straightforward bnstoell mahaal He hoy
peeomes a Self-reliant and practical bustaeis
man. Children are susceptible creatures, and
circumstances, scenes and actions always impress
them. As you Influence them, not by arbitrary
rules, nor bystern example alone', but In a thou
sand other ways that speak' through beautiful
forms, pretty pictures, Ae., so they will grow;
Teach your children, then, to love the beautiful.
If you are able,. give them a corner la tbs garden
fot4 flowers; allow them to haroifavbrlu trees;
Jsaehlhtm to wander la the prettiest woodlets:
show them where they can best view tho sunset;
Muse thnslnthemornlng.sotby the stern "Tim
tojroraVlmt wlthth enthusiasts "See the
beaallful sunrise I" Buy for them pretty pictures,
and encourage them to decorate their room In his
or her childish way. dire them aa Inch and they
will go a mile. Allow them the prrri!ge,.ad
they will make you home pleasant and beautiful.
DISlllUCTJNVISTIGiriTION
J. f Continued Jrm techndfbg. J " r W
The remit of like "preMat-esUma'tjhowi that
le iwoTiou jUmter ateiirzelr under. the
the pTOTlott jtlmates" t'
aetnal amount-don; and as many of the Impi
voiuai amount-
meats are sew
Wi
tew either; Aniseed or gradually ap
eaipUlroo, I rtipeot fatly recommend,
-r Congress making additional tp.
proaenlng eon)
In the arent. el
nroprlalloui for the hoard, that the entire '
be remauared after snob appropriations.
work
are
ssaae, ana Dror m nasi sauiacneni.
Very rMiotfallytyoor obdreat nrvaa V
THtOOORI II. 8AHO,
Assistant Engineer, Washington Aqueduct.
General 0. B. Ba&eock, Colonet f Bnsineere
U. 8 A. Chief Engineer a Vie Waekinjto
Aquednct. -
Did yon have reference there by "entire work"
to mean thatwhlch you had already previously
measured I A. I did sir; and mean whatever
entire means in the whole acceptation of the
term. "
By Mr. Wilson : Q. You were aware, were
you, that the board was seeking to tret appro
priations from tho present Congress for work
that they had been doing since you made your
last measurements I A. Tee, sir.
Q. You were aware of that I, A. I was.
Q Why did you not proceed to, make ac
curate measurements of tho work that they had
done to the end that Congress might know
what it would be proper to appropriate! A. I
think I answered that question, lfr. Wilson,
but I will state it aain. It was In November
when Governor Shepherd requested General
.Babcock to detail his assistant , engineer to
measure) up tne wonc mat nau been don:, ana
I commepced to do that with the intention oi
remeasuring all of the work. X. found that
there was not going to be time by several
months. I told General Babcock it would be
Imposslblo ror mo to do it, and advised him to
let me ge a copy of tbe'work that .had been
done by the board since the final measurement
and pat it into these estimates. lie said, "I
will do so with the understanding that in the
event of Congress making; another appropria
tion I shall hare the right to remeasura the en
tire work." That is as near as I can remember
the conversation.
Q. But how was Congress to make an ap
propriation of this money to pay for this work,
without knowing what the work would eostl
A. They had vouchers of the boardU-
Q. Exactly, but were you, as a Government
officer, willing to have Congress makeappro
priatlons to pay tor this work upon mere state
ments of the engineer of the board as to what
It would cost! A. Certainty.
Q. And take their statement as to tljoamount
of work and the cost o( the work! A. Cer
tainly, with this prorlso, that we should have
the privilege of measuring It.
Q. Do you know of any authority anywhere,
for General 'Babcock or yourself to make a
measurement for the Board of Pnbllc Works
with the view of procuring; from Congress an
appropriation! A. I do not know of any au
thority. Q. Do you know of any authority that you
had to make any measurement of this work,
which was measured last summer, or to take
anv action whatever with reference to III If
there is anv anywhere I would like to know
where it Is? A. My authority was General
uaocoeK.
Q. Do yon know whether be had any or not!
A. I d not.
By Mr. Stanton: Q. Do you know of any
law that It would violate! A. 1 do not.
Mr. Wilson. I am not talking about laws it
would violate.
Mr. Stanton. I asked the question, sir.
By Mr. Christy: Q. Tou said In your testi
mony as follows, page 2293.
Mr. BUekensderfer told me that he would, he
fore submitting the results or his measurements
and calculations to the committee, let me see
them. I called unon him a number of times: the
last time I told him I had called at the request of
Ueaerel uaDoock. it was tne same uay mat iu
uenerai eaueu. .,
Are Iwe to understand, you as Intimating
or suggesting, by your testimony tnat i nave
read, that Mr. Bllckensderfer did withhold in
formation from you that you asked speclflcally
or generally fori A. Not exactly that. I had
called a number of times oa Mr. Bllckens-
aener, ana naa not teen tne retail mu ne
bad arrived at, or his calculations, and then I
called the last time at General Babcock's re
quest, and 1 think immediately after certainly
wumn a very lew aays nis testimony wa in
print.
Q. The ouestlon that I Intend to ask It this:
Whether you requested of Mr.- Bllcksenderfcr
to submit any matter of calculation to you
which he declined to submit! A. No; I cer
tainly should not make such a request of Mr.
iJiioKensaerrer.
Q. Tou therefore made no reauest which
was denied by Mr. BUekensderfer! A. Not In
regard to your particular question. I did not.
Q. Did you, in regard to any other matter,
make a request that be declined to irrantl A.
I asked Mr. Bllckensderfer, at the beginning of
tola measurement, tnat oeiore suomming nis
results if be would show them to me, and he
then told me that he would.
Q. That is In another part of your testimony;
but after that time you mado no request of Mr.
Bllrkensderfer In any of these' calls that you
made upon rum tnat ne rerusea to grant! a
No. sir: I did not.
Q. How often have you stated, iheyanswer
tnat you navo just eiven to me or to tee covu
mlttce that Mr. Bllckensderfer did not comply
with your request! Havo you been asked that
question a half dozen times, Colonel! A. I do
not tbinic i nave.
Q. You say, also, to-day, in your testimony,
that the reason why you desired to make re
measurements was that certain mistakes came
to your knowledge. Would you be kind enough
to lndlcato to us the mistakes to which you
refer the mistakes which came. to your
Knowledge Colore tbe beginning or tno Investi
gation A. There was but one that was
Kaijllns square, which I fortunately had tbe
pleasure of correcting.
Q. And that is the reason why you desired
to take those precautions that you have indi
cated! A. I did. I supposed this: that if I
had made a mistake in one piece I might pos
sibly have made some others.
By Mr. Stanton:. (J. How long before the ex
amination of Mr. Bllckensderfer did this Inter
view occur at -the Ebbltt house, when you
called upon him at the instance of General
Babcock) A. I could not fix the date except
by the fact that it was the same day that Gen
eral Babcock called; within the same hour, I
think,
Q. It was within a day or two, was it not, of
nit nrst examination berore tbe committee I
A. A very short time after I saw the whole
thing in print; and I certainly thought that I
should have seen the calculations and "results
generally before thy were given to the com:
rnittee.
Q, Now, If these measurements concerning
which you took the estimates of the engineer
ofOcers of the board, had related to the actual
disbursement of money, would you have re
measured the work yourself I
The Witness. Which remeaaurements do you
mean) '
Mr. Stanton. Tbe measurements which were
mado as the basis of the application to Con
gress lor an appropriation at tins session I A.
Most undoubtedly.
Q. As they did not concern tbe disbursement
of money, and as too short a time Intervened.
you were compelled to defer the making of re
measurements i a. i considered-them, sum-
clently near for practical purposes to base an
appropriation on. -
Q. Bat you would have mads a more careful
remeasurement, if It had covered the actual
disbursement of money!, A. I would have re
measured everything I was asking an appro
priation tor, u i naa to aisoarte u. t
Q. There seems to be some difference In the
extent of the territory measured by yourself
ana air. oncKensaerier m relation to tne inter
section of streets. Will you please explain
fully what that la! A. I measured everything
within tb building lines, and so stated to Mr.
Bllckensderfer, when his assistant commenced
making the measurement at the P street cir
cle, lunderstood from Mr. Bllckcnsderfer's
testimony that he was
Q. And at intersections the building-line is
extended! A. Tes, sir.
O.- And not the curb-line! A. The building
line. Q. That is extended! A. Tes, sir.
Q If one half of that Intersection Is made
the basis of a charge against the Government,
is there any reason why the other half should
not be! A. Not that I know of; it certainly
would not cover the ground that I measured.
Q. Tou considered that when you were in
cluding that tract between tho building lines
you 'were making the proper measurement!
A. Orteinly.
. By Mr. Wilson: Q. Mr. Bllckensderfer meas
ured it both ways, I believe the same way
jou.dId, and then his way! A. He does not
include, In all cases', the work that Imeasured;
One tem, at Rawlins sfrnare, at the intersec
tion or Eighteenth, E, and 'New, York avenue.
97 yards of wood pavement does not appear In
his measurements.
Q.'Butl am'speakfng about this mods of
measuring-intersections, ue naa measured it
bothwayt; first your "way and then bit way!
A.-1 do not know -whether he has measured
both ways. If he measured my-wayhetwonld
include, of course, the other way, -and It would
be then simply a matter of deduction.
q. Exactly. Has not he done that in every
case, so 'as to present both his and your mode!
A. His assistant, Mr. Elmore, Included this
wood pavement at Rawlins' square.
j. I am not talking about'that: I am talk
ing about Intersections. A. This It an Inter
section. Mr. Mattlngly. Just explain it. 'Mr. Bllck
ensderfer omitted any wood pavement? -
The Witness. It it within the lines or Rsw
lfns' square.
By Mr. Wilson:- Q. I think bisstttcmenf ex
plains itself In regard to that; we will go away
from that now to some other Intersection, Is
It not the fact that ha has measured both your
way and covering the same territory that you
covered, and then measured it In addition to
that in tho manner In which he thinks it ought
to be measured! -A. With theatnzlo exception
of P-treet circle, and that I mentioned at Raw
lint' square, I thtnkbowent over the same
grounu. .va Arttrect circio tno map mat ne
had did not show tbs building lines as I had
measured It on tho ground. Ou the contrary,
Zm. S m - -
the bunding Use of PJlsft .etfele, in tome ta
stanutt, iaa uuUUs of-tacrgb line (nto tbe
r-ree".; put ino-soi bow oat ww nx. oiiut-
nadKrAreArrteted that himself on the ground
I think he old, to a certain extents a minx, ne
elated, howeverr that he did- not measure tbe
entire curb lint to wbmX bad manured it. '
By,ur: Stanton: Q. On the last table I think
that Mr.l31ickensderfer does not make that deduction.-
Tho corrected table submitted by
him dn paget 2000 and 2001, it-teems to me be
did not. When be first testified, he certainly
did make that allowance, and explained it, bat
afterward, is the revised result submitted at
his second examination It was not given. I
may ne mistaken, out i tninjc not.
Mr. SUcKensderrer. There are no revised vo
mits with the single exception of Rawlins
square.
Mr. Stanton, fto Mr. Samo.1 0. At Rawlins
square! Ami you have measured for 07 yards
wood pavement, ana tnat uucxensaener ua-
measured for none. Is that .wood pavement
there! A. Tea, air.
y. minis mo oauaing rroei a. xet, sir.
Bv Mr. Stewart: Q. On what point were you
Invited by Mr. Bllckensderfer to go with him.
Where did you eo with him, and where dU
you not! A, I went with. Mr. Bllckensderfer
to r-strccL circle anaocoti square reservation
at, New Hampshire avenuo and O street, at
Rawlins square, and to no other work..
o. Uid you go with him to thoss places on
his invitation! A. Yes," air.
Q. Did you know when he made the other
inrreys! A. I did not. '
f. Br.ICKENSDBBriRjn., REOAK.ETr.
Br Mr. Wilson: Q. Tou beard the' statement
made by Colonel Same is regard to the man
ner in which you measured P-street-, circle v
State whether or not you did make the' allow
ances to which ho has referred) A. I beard
the statement of Colonel Samo; I am not quite
certain that I understood hlmjibnt 'the fact In
regard to P-strect circle it this: that on the a 1-
Jolrllng' property tho bulldlng-llnes of a portion
oi it occupy one positiop; mil ai certain omer
portions, between other streets, ther occupy
ano;ner position more remote from tne circle;
and if Colonel Samo meant that I probably only
measured to the nearest building-line, whereas
he went to where the bnildlng-Une actually was
In aU'casea.he Is mistaken, for I 'did the tame
thing. I moved back when the butldlng-llne
xoved back. My measurement moved along
with it and included the whole of it, and the
difference which It will be remembered I stated
in my examination in the first instance the
only difference that I recollect of that I made
with C atonal Samo in that respect was this,
that in measuring the curbing I only measured
to the buildlng-llne in each case, wherever It
was; whereas ne, as I understood him to say,
had measured back to the end. of a certain
granlto curb that was laid, which In some cases,
went beyond the butldlng-llne.
Br Mr. Wilson J Q. When you testified In re
gard to P-street circle you stated, I believe,
that you found moro sewer there than bad
been measured by Colonel Samo. Am I cor
rect about the place! A. I do not recollect
what I stated on the subject, but I think my
taular statement shows moro sewer there than
ho did, if I recollect aright.
Q. Did you measure all the tewer that was
there at the time you made the measurement!
A. All that I could And.
Q. Have yon made any investigation since
that time for the purpose of knowing whether
any portion of that sewer had been put down
slnco Colonel Samo made tbe measurement!
A. I have made no additional investigation
upon the subject. I stated in my examination
at that ttrao that my recollection or impression
was that I had asked the engineers in reference
to that matter, and that they bad stated to me
that thore had been additional sewerage laid.
Mr. Mattlngly thought that I was mistaken on
that subject. I stated that I was not-sura In
regard to it. for it was onlv an Impression. I
think I have heard that repeated since, but I
cannot ten oy wnom, tnat mere naa ueen ad
ditional sewer made or pat down since.
Q. I have seen It stated In the testimony here,
and you probably got it from that; but you
measured all the sewer that was there at the
time you measured! A. All that I could find.
Q. So that If there was additional sewer put
down since he made bis measurement, that
would account for the excess of yours over hit!
A. I suppose so. I will state further that I had
as a guide to my measurements a map which
was furnished to me by the engineers of the
Board of Public Workt. which I had reauested
that they should furnish, showing the position
of the sewers In that vicinity.
Q. One further question. What steps did
you take for the purpose of reconciling your
statements or your measurements with Colo
nel samo't; wnat aid you oo; witnwnom did
you confer! A. I conferred first with Colonel
Samo. I msy ssy this, that during the pro
gress of making my measurements, and up to
the time or the day on which I saw General
Babcock, Colonel Samo and I were in the habit
of constantly or frequently communicating with
each other. He frequently called upon ms at
tbe hotel, and I once went over to bis office. I
did not find him there but left a note and he
came promptly to see me, and in the course of
inu interview, i am not sole to tay positively
ail that passed, but my distinct recollection is
that wben I arrived at results, I requested htm
to cire mo his method of eettlnar at these same
results for the purpose of comparison, stating
mat my results were not as ms were, ana my
Impression Is that before I communicated with
General Babcock, although I cannot say when,
man naa commumcatea to mm every result
that I had arrived at, or certainly every one
that he asked for. Then, after I had made ,up
my conclusions in regard to tbe first examina
tion, I sought an interview with General Bab-
cock. i wrote mm a note urst. requesting an
Interview. He being out of the city, did not
receive that note, but as I heard nothing from
blm I called upon him on Monday morning the
10th or May. He Said that he had just re-
turned to the city and had opened my note not
fire minutes before I called upon him and
granted an Interview at once. lie stated that
he would call at my room, and did so. Then
the Interview took place that I described In my
previous testimony. I gave blm all the re
sults, every Information that he asked for,
and stated that he was probably In
possession of tome information that might
reconcile these things, or explain them, that I
had not, and had no means of getting; and if
so, i wouia ds giaa u ne wouia luraua mem,
as I did not want to make a statement J until I
gave him that opportunity; and then he took
his notes, as I slated before, and, I presume,
notes of everything. Not long after he left
me Colonel Samo called upon me, as he states,
at the request of General Babcock. I under
stood him to say that he had seen General
Babcock. I did not understand blm to eay
that he had called at hi request, but that he
had seen General Babcock since he had. seen
me, and then spoke of these discrepancies, and
we referred to a paper that ha bad furnished
me previously, snowing bis quantities on dif
ferent parts of New. Hampshire avenue- He
said that certainly those quantities were
there; that I was mistaken about that. I
said, "No, I think not." I said, "i
have been there." "Well," said he,
"will you walk with me up to the avenue
andseel'i. Says I, "Certainly, by all means."
We went up, and walked over the avenue back
and forth from P-street circle a part of the
way down, and my recollection is that on the
way down from P-street circle to Pennsylvania
avenue I made the request. Said I, "Do you
want to go over tbe whole avenue, or will you
to back to my room!" I made that inquiry,
aid he, "I do not care about gotmr over the
whole of It." "Well," said I, "if you do not,
I will take a car and go to my room," because
1 was a little lame. i had been toUering from
rheumatism, and could not walk as well thea
"No," says he, I think I will go b my office,"
anatnereupon weseparaxea. xrom inaiaay
to this I think, Colonel Samo never called upon
me again.
Q. Did you have the papers in your hsnd
when von. walked over thai, at enuel A. I can-
UVk tnj ITJJIt HM1UW1 IIUUIM hUU fcUl.
... !... ... uTV.A ..-.!... .. .1.1.
tnat l naa nis papers me paper wmen ne naa.
furnished me showing the Quantities at the
dmerent points, as ne naa made mem, wmen
I had said that I could not find at those points.
.. .-.- ...
Q. Did you or not ask htm to find those
quantities for you! A. Certainly; we walked
over the ground together.
Q. Was he able to do it ) A. I explained
that, I think, pretty fully in my previous testi
mony, in certain places ne said tnat ne couia
not: be thought he had made a mistake as to
the position of the streets, and so on. ,
Br Mr. Stewart: Q. When you first started
out you did ask him to go with you! A. No,
sir: ne asked me.
6. How did he fcnow when -von were making
the survey when you first started outotrP-
street circle ana rtawnns' square ; now aia ne
happen to ba with you then A I am not sure
that I can tell that; he was there. J know
this, that in my communication with tho enji
neor.department, stated in all cases when. I
Intended to go to work at a measurement.
Q. Tpu stated that to Mr. Class! A. I can
not tay whether it was to Mr. Cluss always,
or whether It was to Mr, Barney sometimes, of
to Mr. Fomth, but I am satisfied of this : My
Impression now is, since you call attention to
It, that Colonel Samo called upon me first and
Introduced himself, or had himself introduced,
and then I told him what I Intended to do,
when I would go at It.
O. In a turvev doe it do'anr harm to have
everybody present) A. Not by any means. I
never nave a patriae or ooiecuon to it.
Q. If two men measure from the tame point, 1
taking me tamo quantities, n com are cor
rect, both would bo exactly alike, would they
not! A. I should suppose-so, of course.
u. 11 tne oat are tne same, ana me wore is
correct, it will lead to the same result In mathe
matics, I believe! A. Tes, sir; if the result B
correct.
Q. I bellevo I left out none of the mathemat
ical condition; but now if you fcet different
points, if the work Is correct, the result must
necessarily be different! A. a am not sure that
I understand your question.
q. Well, that i telf-erldent. Now," would
It not hara been much moro convenient to hare
had present in order to-test tho accuracy of
tho work before you make yourjneasurement
is it cot very Important to see whether you are
measuring the samilhteg ts order to test th
accuracy of the work! Dor you not think it
WouhTbaVe been more convenient to have bad
the parties present A 1 don't think that the
convenience would have been anv more or less.
but I will say this, that all the parties were
ooiinea wpenerer i went to woric at any oi
these avenues. "
Qi Was Mr. Samo notified) A. Tes, sir; the
Information was conveyed to him.
q. Notified when you were to go to work
upon each of these places! A. Tes, sir.
Q. By whom-he denies that! A. I cannot
help that, sir. Ut was conveyed either by my
self or my assistant, and I think that he and I
met, I was going to say, lots of times during
the progress of almost every one of these
things, and tho information was conveyed that
I was than and there at work at that time on
thoseplacea.
Q. Either byyourselforyour assistant, direct,
the- Information 'was conveyed to Mr. Samo,
that you were going to work upon these par
ticular placet A. Tes, sir; sometimes he re
quested me to send him word through the en
gineers of the board or tome one of that kind;
and I think, In tome cases, that that request
was complied with without going any further,
but I never for a moment felt that I had not
used all needful "means to advise him and
every one in connection with It that I was
folng to work at such a place of work on that
av.
Q. He sayt that he did not know when you
was going to surrey New Hampshire avenue?
A. Very well, sir; I cannot help that.
Q. Who pointed dot the placet for you to
survey! A. I stated in my previous examina
tion that I haiTseiccted them myself.
(J. Did you" consult with anybody about 111
A. Not consul'cd. I do not think I consulted
with any one, but I state, as I stated before, a
great many suggestions were mads to me
many persons coming to me, I cannot ssy who,
and although I cannot say that they were all
suggested to me, neither can I tay that any of
thern were not suggested to me.
Q. Did you consult with Mr. Class as to
what points to surrey! A. 1 do not think' t
ever did until I made Inquiry of blm for infor
mation, profiles, notes, and matters of that
kind, of course I always consulted with him or
asked blm for the facts.
Q. These last measurements that you made,
how did you happen to strike upon these par
ticular streets, I want to know this. Mr.
Cluss swears that tho surveys that hs and his
party made are absolutely correct. Now I
want to-know whether the measurements that
you made were bap-hazard and as liable to fall
on them for the'purpose of testing their accu
racy. I want to know how you got at these
particular streets, and why you did not happen
to measure more of Mr. Barney's work to tee
whether that was correct or not! A. I believe
that almost every piece of earth-work that I
measured my recollection cow is that every
p'ece waa work that Mr. Barney had measured.
y. And you round mess errors in Mr.
Barney's work! A. No, sir; Mr. Barney'a
notes generally were correct, but It would
seem 1 do cot know bat it would seem that
the estimates and the vouchers for payments
to the contractors were not based upon the re
sults to be oblarnea irom Mr. Barney's
measurements.
By Mr. Stanton: q. Who made the certifi
cate) A. Sometimes one, and sometimes
another; I have answered la my statement,
On Twelfth street the certificate
Q. I mean In cases where measurements were
made by Mr. Barney, and his measurements
were sot followed in settling with the contrac
tor, whose engineer's certificate was appended
to the vouchers In those cases! A. I have given
them in mv testlmonr. I cannot recollect;
Sometimes Mr. Forsyth, sometimes Mr.Oertly,
and sometimes Mr. Phillips, and sometimes Mr.
Barney: in those that are not correct, I be
lieve in tome cases Mr. Bamey himself made
the certificates: I do cot recollect that. I be
lieve that I did cot measure a single piece of
earm-work upon wmen l aid not nave more or
less notes of Mr. Barney's, and generally full
notes, and the reason I selected this was be
cause I did not I beg your pardon, I did not
hare any on Second street, as I stated in my
previous testimony but the reason was that I
aid not like to undertake to measure and give
definite results, unless I could find tome cotes
upon which I could base them; therefore, I
sought those notes, and preferred to select those
works unon which I could get notes.
By Mr. Stewart : Q. My object In Inquiring
it to see how far your surveys go to the testing
ot me wnoie wort: or me city, a nese last tnat
you mad, that you brought in, who made the
surveyt and estimates upon which payments
were made! A- Oa.Twelfth street 1 was fur
nished with complete notes by Mr. Barney. I
suppose be did not take them personally. Some
of his assistants took them, but they were fur
nished to me by blm: but the estimate upon
which the payment is mad to the contractor
Is, if I recollect right, signed by Mr. Fortyth,
and it doct not appear to havo bad, and in the
making of ft there does not appear to have
been, any refarenca had
Q. Was there a final payment made by Mr.
Forsyth! A. I think so; I cannot answer that
certainly.
Q. Who certified to the final payment on
Twolfth street! A. I think It was Mr. For
syth; that Is my recollection. I hsve a copy of
me voucner in my room; i naven-t it cero.
Q. I would like to aee that voucher! A. I
received that copy on application to Mr. John
son. That was from F to P. on Twelfth street.
Mr. Barney has placed In my band notes of
a wemn street, i ao not know mat tney are
of any consequence particularly.
By Mr. 8tewart: Q. If Mr. Bamey made the
surrey Mr. Fortyth certified to it, and final
vouchers were certified to by Mr. Forsvth. I
want to know if that is tbe fact! A. that is
my recollection, but I would rather refer to the
paper.
Mr. Stewart. I will wait for that paper,
Rv tfA Phifpm.n- ft VfT i.niamhi. 4l..
I think Ir. Samo said yesterday that you only
measured the sewer around three streets on
Scott square, while he measured around the
entire square. That he measured also a sewer
on the west tide. Do you remember whether
you measurea me sewer on toe west tiae i a.
I cannot state that without referring to my
aetauea papers
By Mr. Stewart: Q. I think he explained It
before, that the sewer on' tho west side was an
old sewer, and you did not mention that for
that reason i A) tnat is my recollection.
do not'remember maybe I did.
Mr. Stewart. That Is my recollection of your
testimony.
The Witness. I will Just say this: that I have
my measurements In detail, in the most mlnuto
manner from top to bottom, and they are open
to anybody who wants to look at them, I don't
care who. I cannot answer that question at
the present moment,
By Mr. Mattlngly: Q. Tou reported a large
discrepancy on Second street In the grading.
Was any member of the engineer corps or the
Board of Public Works with you , Wben you
measured that street! A. if 0, tir '
Q. I understood you to say the other day
that Mr. Henry 8. Davis was with you) A. He
Q.-.The voucher you remembeiyl suppose, in
tnat case cauea lor oecona street, irom. rnn-
syirama avenue to m a,, a Daoeve it aia. .
Q. Yon only measured, I understood you" to
tay, from Indiana avenue' to H A. I went
over the whole, ttreet, and finding there was
no excavation below Indiana arenue, of course
i naa notning ,W- measure mere; x measurea
onir wnere mere was excavation
Q. Did Mr. Henry S. Davis at that time tell
you that Second street, trom Indiana avenue to
Pennsylvania arenn,' bad been an open abyss
soma fifty or sixty feet.wlda. and ten or fifteen
feet deep) A. I have heard that, but I cannot
say whether it was Mr.. Da vb who told me at
tjiat time or not. ,
O. In vour ettlmale. men. for crradlns-'' on
Second etreetXrou Mowed nothing for filling
oremoankment, a you can m a. no, sir.
Q. But merely for excavation! A. Tes, dr.
Q. Did vou cot knoW that the embankment
there largely exceeded the amount of excava
tion! a. i aia cot xnow; i mignt nave round
It out If I examined It probably; but I will tell
yon why I did not measure any fmhnirn1fr.j.
it was mis
Q. Tou have said that already) A. No, I
aooot tainK-x'rtave.' -ice reason laid cot
measure anything except the excavation there
was, the contract specified that the', work
should be measured In excavation only; and I
found that In the voucher he was allowed for
excavation and for hauling, and so I did not
pay any attention to tbe embankment except
to walk over It and satisfy mysell that there
was no excavation there.
Q. Did you make any inquiry before you put
your
statement as- to second street into ovt-
dence ts td the cause of that apparent discrep
ancy! A. l aa not remember wcai particular
inquiry I may have made; bnt I know this,
that was" in communication' with tb engi
neers the engineer department hi regard to
Second street, Just as well as is regard to
fathers, end aaksd whether they had cotes on
It, and stated that I could cot make the
amount correct;that V could cot make it so
much by a great deal as wss in their Touch
ers, and 1 wanted to know what Information
they had that they could -Clre me on the sub
ject, and they said they had not any.
Q. Can you state to whom you applied rela
tive to Second street to whom you spoke in
connection with it! A. I am not sure that I
can stale it posltlrely, but my impression is
that I tooke to both Mr. Barney and Mr.L'lutr.
I will say generally, as I ham said before, that
mr formal tDDllcatlona were always made to
what I considered the head of the establish
ment, Mr. Class, and be referred me to per
sons, sometimes to one and sometimes to an
other, generally to Mr. Barney.
ft. ITnAprKtKnd ma. alp. lt1rfc.riAt mn tn
say tjiatjou were not perfectly correct In con-
rernng witn air. uiuss, to isr as you: are con.
cerned. Tou see the unfortunate predicament
In -which, you bars placed us in that connec
tiout,, A. Welt, sir, I.went to the head of tbe
hean.
By Mr. Christy: Q. White you were getting
this Information were you Informed that the
nil on seconu ttreet was made from dirt taken
from Tiber-creek sewer I A. t rinnnt think T
was. I did'sot even ask" in regard lo how em
bankment were formed, because I found that-
the measurements were to he made is excava
tion only, and I addressed myself to that.
uj Mr. ounuin: lt. iintr nil MP. nanrra.
Darl htDSen tn irmrnmnr wnrt fnp thnnf
ri rr p v v atM JWt VV V44W WftMaw r
a. iio uu my attention to tnat ttreet,
among others, and desired that I look at it.
Q. Did you. notify Mr. Fortyth at thattirae
that you Intended to go there In company with
Mr. Hedry 8 Davis! A. I do not think I. did
notify Mr. Forsyth personally. I generally
cwuiuercu u& wuen a went to tne neaa or tne
engineer denartment and asked for Inform.
tion, and told-them that I was going to look at
a' thing, that they would take care of their tide
of tbe question.
Q. What other streets did Mr. Henrv S.
Davis call your attention to! A. I cannot re
member.'
Q. Can you remember whether any other of
me measurement which you maaa were made
on the suggestion of Mr. Henry 3,DavU except
Second ttreet! A. No, sir; I think not- Bat
I will ay fn regard to Mi. Davis accompanying
me, that be seemed to have a desire" to know
the amount .of Iron .fencing on that street; a
great desire: and he wanted me to measure it
with him, which I did. I hare paid no atten
tion wit m my testimony, oecause u was not
part of it. I gave him that result. Then I
asked htm In reference to the grading, and be"
pointed it out to me. Bat, with all due defer
ence to Sir. Davis, I found that I had to relv
upon my own Judgment much more than I
could rely upon hit, or anybody elee is regard
to the quantities.
Air. Mattlngly. We do not doubt that, sir.
Mr. Christy. Mr. Chairman, vou will find
in the charges that" we made that we have in
dicated to tbe committee) several ofthe matters
that we wish to Inquire Into. For Instance.
P-etreetcircIe, Sco-t square, Rawlins' square,
and East Capitol street, for which measure
ments hare been made, and estimates made by
Mr. BUekensderfer. The inquiry was sug-
rstca wny ne naa maae certain measurements,
am only explaining the fact that attention
wat early called to our desire to bare these 1
measurements maae.
The Chairman. Perhap Iought to say in the
beginning that the committee Instructed Mr.
Blilkcnsderfer with reference to several of
these streets, and to far as I know, they were
taken rather at random. In the charges there
are perhaps twelve or more street Indira ted.
It was not thought worth while to measure ail
of them, as that would take too much time.
tncreiore we indicated several streets; and
afterward Mr. Bllckensderfer being here. I
think the committee staled to him that he
might take two or three other streets and look
them over and select them for himself.
By Mr. Stewart: Q. This voucher Is signed
by Mr. Forsyth as assistant engineer, and ap
proved by Mr. Phillips, who was then engineer-in-chief.
Now, you say, Mr. Barney made
mis surrey! a. ue ruroisnea mo tne notes. I
cannot say that he made the survey. I hare
understood that either he or one of his ai sist-
ants did.
Q. He did not furnish you the notes of the
survey, be merely furnished you the notes of
mo croes-secuonsi A. coin.
Q. Tho notes of the cross-sections and the
note of the measurements of the work after
it was done I want to ice howtbey did It)
A. Permit me, then, to explain. They went
over tho ground with an instrument, took tbe
levels at different portion for the purpose of
being able to plot, If you please, or for the
purpose of ascertaining tbe actual elevation of
tne sunace on ainorcm part oi me street an
the way along. Then the measurement is
sometime made month before the calcula
tion Is made, because the measurement consti
tutes the taking of thes- notes and the reduc
tlonof them. The calculation maybe made fire
rears afterward, audit wont affect it any at all.
Then these notes were in part plotted upon
those cross-section papers and in part calcu
lated. So far as they were here plotted and
calculated, I took all tbe original cotes on to
the ground, but these cross-sections, to save
me the necessity of two comparisons, and I
noted the heights as nearly as I could estimate
to make up my mind as to their credibility and
correctness. I made up my mind they were
right. Then I went to work to examine his
calculations to see whether ha had reduced
them right, and I made the amount the same
thing, with trifling exceptions, I noted one or
two slight errors. Then for a portion of the
street that he did cot have plotted on these
cross-section papers, he furnished me hers a
copy of the notes, although I had the original
notes with this. I took this, however, upon
tbe ground, and compared this with the ground,
and made up my mind it was credible, and then
I reduced these mrself without dotting.
Q. Then your measurement, if nothing was
Included in the work besides what was origin
ally measured or plotted, you weie absolutely
correct: but suppose, now, that there been as
Intersection, or a piece of ground that had been
included in the work, as you hare found in sev
eral instances, then that would change the re
sult, would It not! A. If there was something
that was outside of those notes it would.
Q. Well, you have found several instances
wnere mere was sometning outsiae oi me note,
orw here that was the explanation; for instance
A. I do not remember snch a case.
q. On Virginia avenue! A. Tes, sir; so far
as tbe claims against tbe Government were
concerned, but not with reference to the con
tractors. I do not remember any case of that
kind with reference to the contractor; but 1
will Int sav that in this auantitv there is in
cluded here a small amount, 744 yards, if I re
collect angnt, mat is not inciuaea in incee
notea for work at the Intersection of Massachu
setts avenue that tbla man did outside of the
notes as was explained to me; that Is, that
statement was stated to me. I did not go to
have them show me where these 744 yard
were, how they were made up, OF arrytmug
about It. The amount being so small I re-
eetred their statement and nut that In.
q. Then you put something in betides what
was in this original measurement! A. I did.
Q. Do yod not think that the quickest way
wouia nave Deen to nave naa orsyin mere to
close the whole case and make It absolute, and
ascertain if there was anything else outside,
and then we would have had everything with
out calling witnesses to bare a further examin
ation. There is no doubt about your calcula
tion, determining with certainty so far as you
went, and probably it ts accurate throughout ;
but then, if you bad called on Mr. Forsyth,
vou would have known whether ba bad any
further explanation, whether he had put any
thing else In besides that 700. yards! A. I sup
pose It l naa cauea oa Air. x-orsyin, ana ne
had made an exnlanationof that kind, it would
have made it unnecessary to examine me. Per
haps it would, and perhaps not; I do not know
about tnat.
O. Tou cannot sav I A.' I cannot say about
that: but I certainly thought when I had com-
municatea witn me engineers oi me ooaru,
without knowing that Mr. Forsyth was con
cerned In that matter until after I was done,
that they would send to me the man who was
Interested fn the subject. I will Jut say one
thing further, so far as I am concerned, lndi-vidually.-withoat
reflecting, with all due defer
ence to the committee and everybody else, that
if I were expected, when called upon to make
examinations of this kind, to hunt up every
subordinate engineer that was Interested in
the matter, I should beg leave to be excused.
Mr. Mattlngly. Mr. Clephane, who was a
contractor on Twelfth street, desires to make
an explanation of that, to show that he did
not profit by the mistake.
LEWIS CLEPKANK EICALLIf).
I simply desire to state, as a matter of fact.
I do not know whether there is any error or
not is that measurement. I with limply to
state mat i gave that wont out to uieason to
do, and paid him precisely what was paid me
by tbe board. If therfl is any error, I do not
know anything about It. That was Mr. Albert
Gleason.
By Mr. Wilson: Q. Did you do the paving!
A. Tes, sir.
Q. Tou got the contract for the grading and
paving, and let out the grading to Mr. Glea
sott! A. Tes, elr. The grading wa given
previously.
' By Mr. Christy: Q. Do you know who com
posed the finance committee of the Freed
man's Bank is the tall of 1871! A. I was one
of them.
Q. Was cot Henry D. Cooke another! eA.
Tea, six j
Q. And William S. Huntington) A. Tes,
sir.
The committee here adjourned to 3 p.m.,
and. upon reassembling, adjourned, without
taking any additional testimony, until to-mor
row morning, jiay so, 13 1.
LETTER FROM NEW MEXICO.
THAT BILL TO SETTLE PBITATE LAN D
CLAIMS.
To the Editor of tXe rational RemMtettnr
Sta: Th bill for the settlement of private land
Claims la New JtexIeo,Colorado and Art xosa which
passed th Senate, and I jwpeaJlng In th lions
or EsprsseaUtlves, requires tome notice from
within th Territory in whleh most of these
claims lie New Mexico and I hope luj few
word will be' a time to hare at least torn slight
Bethpon th vote-on. th bill when It (hall
com up for final action la thellout.
I nave u but a brief statement of all th pro
visions of me'blil, and tfiey show that, while,!!
called for and wholly unnecessary, it proposes
alto to lmpos inevitably upon a very larg class.
constituting an Important and powerful propor
tion of oar popIe, at once a heavy and. aaasual
cost and xpns, and a long-continuing and very
lrrita,ttag aanoyanc and. trouble. It provide
mat ach oitbs owners of land grants derived
from th former government ts- the Territories
named shall, la every lnstane (however unques
tionably rood and valid, and bow ver pertect in
,fprm ami tahttane b tbe grant' h holds his
property unaer, present ni ciaun m unuuu
oonrw ana aenna it at lean tner uu u "
Suprea Court or th Territory, atthtwUl and
plmrar of the Attorney General, and also In th
fSnprame Court of th.Unlted SlaUs.
In other words, b must bring rat agm u
United State to obtain tho very rights of prop
erty which era guaranteed to blm bytbtraty
oriSM with auilco, (Artlcl Till and Ix of Treaty
or Onadalupo Hidalgo, UVS. Statutes, vol.jx,
rSSOwMdl specialty stipulates for tnprtec
tion and security of prorata property without any.
cost, chary or-xpua .whatever to th owner
there jf, and he must bo contincally, for year;
fighting the Oorernmest la th courts for bU
propjrty. It ts an tajosttevand hardship opes
many a pi or ranchman, wb ancestor bar ror
generation lire! and di In peaeff upon the land
he cultivates now; an Injustice and hardship quit
in oodtrast with tint Sanborn provision of the-
bill, which cunningly provides thou ad of dol
lars la f, and authorises th District Attorney
to appeal all eat dedded ia tb District Ooort
adreneiy to th United States, and (at tb
pleasure ofth Attorney General) all case from
tb Territorial Supremo Court to tne unites
States Supreme Court. Turoaihout (hi fight in
to court tho United State fools the re Din or
th District Attorney, and ia all th fight tb
(oor nooaman oust foot th hill or bit lawyers,
amounung to, perhaps, on halt ot thro fourth
of th vain ot th land.
Butthpropodlawliabsolatalyafals aad
unnecessary. It I not needed by th GorerB
xasnt. to whleh It ueeutloa would necessarily
b rry costly, nor by the grant owners, to whom
it would b ruinously expensive.
Th existing law of SM Jly. 1SS4, MtablilUagr
th xxncwof surveyor general of Ww fxieo,
Kansas and Nebraska, (Statutes, yol. ID, p. 30S.)
amply provides In tbe eighth section for alt the
pending bill profanes to provide for, and th pro
visions of thailaw were xundd to Colorado la
1M1, (Statutes. toI. 12, p. 175J and to Artsona la
1543 and 157i and are all In tint la eaeb of the
Tamtori, and thtlaterlor Department, through
th General IooAoOeo, I ehargsd with th due
execution ot tat Urt la th several Terrltorle
named to' "conformity-with tb IawoX nation,
th treaty crOaaa'alup Hidalgo and of Gads
dra,ihlw?ug and customs or Spain and
Tdealeo, aod.th principles of the decisions of th
"Supreme Court or th United Stat, th Depart
ment ha given." fall and adequate Instructions to
the several surveyors general under that law for
lb proper nd electlv adjudication of private
land claims In accordance with thea. principles
under that taw. ''
The Surveyor General of New Meilco has boon
acting under It Tor th last twenty years, and no
oomplalnt ha yet bees heard from th Govern
ment, front tb claimant, or from th peopl.
Sloet of th claim died ia hi office, we under
stand, he has acted upon, and In fact, on all those
eases which bar vr beta called up for actios
by th parties Interested. And all this I don
without toy xtra or airaftcessary expens or
trouble either to the Government or to claimant,
wharea the bill 1 bars thus briefly dlseusad
necessitates and Imposes much extra and unneces
sary expense and trouble and much "legal prac
tice" procedure upon both tb Government nd
th claimant.
The pending bill embraces bnt on Just and
proper provision that requiring all prtrat land
claims to ba filed by th owners for Investigation
within a specified time. There 1 cow no such
legal requirement either concerning those In Colo
rado and Arliona, where ther are but very few,
or those in New Mexico, where moat of them have
already been filed. If Uongreaswlll but require
all claims to be prodeesd and 'Vied within two
years, it will do all that U requisite in the matter.
As UU Nnv Mkxioak.
Santa Fe, Mar IS, 1374.
THE SUMNER MONUMENT.
TIIE FIRST PLAN PROPOSED TfiTHB
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION!;,';
Th following plan for a monument la be
erected in this city in honor of th lata Charlee
Sumqer has been presented by an eminent artist
to th executive committee of th Sumner Na
tional Monument Association. It Is stated that
if tho plan b accepted it can b executed in either
broni or marble ror th sum or56,0O0.
Th monument" Is to consist or on large eaatrai
statu ot Charles Sumner, and four ltfe-tlzs
statue representative or th colored race; the
fir figure to bo made or best Italian marble and
finest workmanship, (or broni If preferred,) and
to bo mounted on a handsome granite pedeatal,
which will bo further ornamented by four broni
bas-reliefs. Tbe statues will b a follow:
Central Statue A statue, eight, Jast. htgb, of
Charles Sumner; on Its left will b a pilaster, oa
whleh will be seen, partly unrolled, th "civil
rights bin." Tb Senator' right arm will be ex
tended toward heaven, whli ther left, holding a
parchment, wilt point to th statues at th baa
or the monument. Th Senator It lattndad to
express th grand Idea, that all men balsg qoal
berore God, the colored dtlxen ofth United
State Is therefor entitled to tb same" rights and
privileges before th law a any other elllsea ot
th lama country. This statu will stand oa a
square shaft of granite ten feet high, with capital
and bass of handsome deslgm this shaft will bo
placed on the snmmllor four flights 0! step,
which rise six feet and meet In thctntre. The
shaft will be furthermore ornameateoYlby having
on each on of Its faces a bronze btH-rclief lliua
tratlv or the sabjoct. At th foot of-these four
flight of steps will b four round granite pilas
ters six feet high, or handsome design, and placed
on at each corner of th four flights; oa these
pilasters are to stand th fonr representative
statues, as follow; each with ill nam In broni
letters on th granite:
1. Freedom A seml-nnd statu of a femal
slave, to whom emancipation ha Just dawned
and who casts from her wrist th broken shackles
or servitude, while with race turned to neareoabe
thank her Maker tor th freedom which at last
comes to the rac she represents, and or which
she la typically th mother.
S. War Statue of a colored soldier In the uni
form of tb United States army, holding bl
musket, with baronet fixed, ready to repel the
coming attack of hi country' foes: thus repro
sentlng th colored citizen sharlngwlth th whit
citizen th peril of war In defence of bis country.
ored citizen earning his bread by free labor and
by tbe sweat or hit brow.
. DeoateStatue of a colored citizen as an
o rator and statesman, resting his left hand on the
fasces. at Bit left, and to wbich "her point with th
farehment In his right hand; thua Impersonation
h colored man occupying tho highest publlo
position, and sharing In th regulation and gor
naneat of pnbUa Interest In this country.
A DESERTED TESTIMONIAL.
v
COMPLIMENTARY BENEFIT TENDERED
H. CLAY FORD.
The following, conjponjnc will explain It
self: B. Clay Ford, Acting ami Buelneee Xanager,
Pord'e Opera Bourn,
Sib; Appreciating th efforts pat forth by your
self daring th past sesion la catering so hand.
somely to th amusement-loving people of th
national capital, and being desirous of extending
th right hand of fellowship In a substantial
manner, we deoza It a duty and 11 esrtatnly af
fords at great pleasure to tender- a grand com
plimentary benefit at inch tun at yon, may desig
nate. With the hop that the affair may he an entire
ruecaas and gladden your heart, wo remain, very
truly your.
Signed by W. W. Belknap, "W. T. Sherman,
Alex. R. Shepherd. S.6. Cox, Richard Watlaob.
J. M. Leach, O. P. Snyder, J. B. Chaffee, G. L.
Fort, L. D. Shoemaker, Lyman Tremaln, A.
Hodges, C. B. Curtis, Joseph H. Sloss, O. C.
Shoate, Samuel J. Randall, Wm. J. Brian, Oha.
A. Eldridge, Uetster Clymer, E. C. lagersoll, J.
C. Robinson, John B. Eden, R. R. Butler, 3.
Bufflnton, Eppa Huntoa, Charles St. John, A.
J.M4DIU, O.D. Conger, Charles O'Neill, Sta
phenion Archer, N. P. Chlpman, Jos. O. Andes
rled, J. P. Martin, ArthurShapherd, 21. Trimble,
F. A.Boswell,EdgarP. Berry. Robert P. Flem -
In g, Lemuel Bursley, O.J. Brewer, Joseph G.
Carroll, J. L. Venable. M. Emmets Urell, Wm.
Dickson, A. C. Richards, John F. Ennls, Wm. M.
Evans, A. Webster. S S.Heakle,5IorjnL.Smltb,
John W.Boteler, J as. L. Barbour, J. O. Payne,
Alex. Gardner, 3. Goldstein Jt Co., J. Y. Darls'
Sons, Lock wood, Hurty Jc. Taylor, Dyer St David
son, Jefferson Rives, P. 31. Dubant, Peter F. Ba
con, John Goldis, Jcs. W.Nairn, Wm. M. Gall,
Ceo. Alfred Towmend, WD. Shaw, John Alex
ander. Geo. B. CorkhlU. Wlllett t Rusff. COau-
tlar, Jojin A. W. Clarfba, John W. Weatherall,
a-ntu a. j auien, j 0. w, raraar, wm. 11. oemp.
ey, Kervand It Towers, Latimer It Cleary, W. S.
Teet, Henry Semken, L. G. Hln, W. B. Wil
liams, Goo. F. Schaftr, Oeo. W. Cochran St Co.,
Tho. Russell, O. M. Alexander, J. M. Mason, J .
W. MeKnlght, Donn Plait, L N. Burrtt, D. C.
Forney, E. II. Hack, John J. Johnson, F. Tenny
k Co., Woodbury 8t Duren, Sam. Houston, G.M.
Barton, F. A. Aiken, Ja. F. Dooley, B. M. Cor
wine, Qulntoa Corwlne.
HE. TOSD'S KXTI.T.
WASHiNOTdv, SttySl. ISTl.
Iteetrt. Beltnap, Sherman, Shepherd, IfaUaek,
Cox, Leach and others:
Uixruxzx: I beg to acknowledge the ro!pt
of your kind tender of a bneflt. I was but c
ond in command at tho opera-house during the
past season, and If in contributing to your piea
nr and tho success of th management, I merit
this most pleasant recognition. It will b a grati
fying to my 'brother a It u complimentary to my.
self. In accordance to an unvarying custom and;
In keeping with my gratitude and ambition, I
most cordially accept your generous offer, "and
nam Tuesday trenlng, Jon 3, at th time!
Mr. John MeCullough, th eminent trsgtdlan.
who travel several hundred miles expressly to
gtv hi rrtee for th occasion, a the star, and
Lord Lytton's "Blehttltu" as th play.
ItaayssdtitatMr.MeOullough will b sup
ported by taay farorlt dramaUo artists, all of
whom havellndly volunteered.
With great respect, I bar Uwhocor to ramata,
vry truly. Sax, H- Ctar Foan.
- zxcotniJi0iy& AST- i
W noticed rw dayt ago. at tfl Oapltol, a
portrait or Han. Clinton IV Merrlamof JUw
York, nd wr lmprtsd with It prlrly la
ihaartutle treatment of light, and. ahd,.iua
artist term enter owrurd, xcilnojarly
found to tb portrait J th day, owing, doojet
tes. to a want of undentandlug er tppreoiatloa
orshadowi oath part araRtef. Wargldto
not. thii"ixmnl of hlxbr art la portraiture
and aocord, deserved credit to Mr.il erriAra for
tho last and liberality to pproclte, and to. Mr.
Thorp for, th courage to execute a ttudy ot fight
and shad, well aaa strona-lUeneu, not heavy
ahadef,bnt warm, luminous, transparent shad-
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