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A BALLAD-I'M OUTSIDE BECAUSE I'M ALL IN STAR PORTS COAST GRID "EXPERTS" PICK ALL-COAST MEN CMCIM, S©C€E! (SAME OF SEASON ES BILLED IEEE F©l SMIAI LONELY IS THE COAST GRIDDER WHO DOESN'T GRAB ALL-STAR PLACE Everybody's Doing It and Everybody Is Being Chosen; Team Can't Be Fair Unless Person Selecting Squad Sees All Teams in Action; Summary of Choices Everybody's doing it! Seems as if we ought to get in the swim, referring to the setection of an All-Coast football squad, but, as we haven't seen all of the teams in the Coast conference in action, it follows that some of the players would be selected by here gay. and some players have an awful lot of noise made about them that mast of the time they don't deserve. All-Star selections liven interest in sport, but in order to be anywhere near fair, the one who selects such a mythical team must at least see all the players in action, according to our way of thinking. Take, for instance, the case of Bill Grimm, Washington's tackle. We' re willing to stand on our hind legs ami yodel to the world that Kill is the swellest bit of tackle machinery running around in the country, but there are several critics, some of them in the Hose City, who never saw Bill in action this year, and are leaving him out of the Coast team alto aether. Now, perhaps, you get what we mean. Faulk Knds Of the Itima that «rr betr.* picked atone the Coa*t. Ted Kaulk. Waah liurton * brilliant end. la aimi*t » ■nnlmoui rholw for a berth. If G«orß« Smith had played all year he would hive undoubtedly been the cholio for the other end. Hubbard, of O. A. C. and Hoy Hanley. of w. si. C_ we attracting a lot of at lentkm for the other end }ob Grimm, of Washington: Herried. of W. S. C.; Hartlett, of Oregon. and Major-", of California, are leading the tackle* Ellwwrt, of w. ». C: Flake, of Waabington. ami Major*, of Call forma are lendinß Kttard candidate* Dun'ap. of W. H C. la almoet unanimous for center. Bill Steerm the Ore*o*» crack. »nd Dick Hanley. \V. 8. C- captain, kad the quarter backa Half Back* Huntington, of Oregon: Butler, of Waahlngton, W«U», of California. and CNltta, of W. 8. C.. have the edf In half back Jot*, with WeUe and Clllia leading the field. Powell, of O. A. C. I* netting near ly all the votes for full back, with Templeton of Stanford, running a cioee r»cond. Thin gtvea the tana *n idea of bow th« Coast football nn'.rrUl hntm up But none at the so tar are official. It will be interesting to see what kind of * town tleorge Varnall. the Hpokajne referee. who uw all of the team* In action, will line up as him squad. Before the All-Co**t la aent to the national record publishers. It would be well for some authority to be appointed to chose a real C«**t All-Star squad, because it seems (hat All-Star grid squads are being picked In every hamlet along tbe Coast this jmar. Let's go buy Boldt'a French pas try. I p*own. 1414 3d are.; down town, 913 2d ave. 3 Taft's Meccano | j Contest s rioaed for competition O " Saturday and the judges O are now <jult«i busy trying V 7 t'i select the best Hi' dels .g i fr> rn the many submitted. c p £ Watch this part ef the CX Jj newspaper for the names O . of tbe winners. Q. <o © Prite* will be distributed iij *j December 12th p |Piper <c.Taft Ik I ■ 1107*1109 SECONDAVEJ %HUHE SPOCTIMQ GOODS STOP! WKO Tour Patronage Appreciated Pay Checks Cashed TORREY & SEARS' BILLIARD PARLOR 14.10 3rd. Cmrmmd 3rd aad Plka l.anrb Counter Barker ftkap Ifauotala Orfaga Car J Taklaa Mala 281» 9 Rachael BY LEO H. LASSES' Th# Caleewrttr of PMittrluiU wit! hold Its Annua! r«l*r raree on frfKktin fl* 14. Philadelphia. April 3# tfld Hey 1 For SI >•*« th* ri4MUi have N<n b«!4 the U*t (tetur4«f In April. An A»Mrir«ii trap •boatttf «enm will bo M»t to in* Antwtrp oirmpire In Po'ft la Greet Britain. p* well ee In lUlttifn and flpafn. wist ikmoi In lf:t. It in pred>' ud tjr «ntliu>Uurt«- The Chnrleeton <O. C 1 T V t A. Will bold n road nrj Dec««t«r « Canadian Mr*m*n will p-jr<-haM their eheite for the Olympic r*f»tt* In Hog* 'and Thl» will cut out the of •hipping them to Antwerp K#w f>!mm will bo the scene of the neit Amateur Alliletic union roe«t ni Jimmy ronnotlj-. tho junior natlrmnl on« milo champion, wl?l rmrrj th# color* of Georgotowra unteereity hereafter. I-oof liJaiid chapter. Knight* of C\>- lumbal, will h9)4 *n in«s»«r track m#«t *t tb* tlth r«fim«nt Armory. llrvoklyn. U+emmb+r I. Tfc« Vo-t h w #rn Curling asseelatloa will hold iu :i<h aential bonsplel si Du- IKIi. January I*. I*:* It prom it's to •aeel pre-war com petitions It la Mpctx) a tola) ef MS M» II sansss to hunt a Kama In Pennsylvania will be !Moa4 at $1 »sch BECKETT AND FRENCHMAN FINISH WORK LONDON. Dec. I—(United Press i —Joe Beckett and Georges Car peri tier, who are to fight 20 rounds here Thursday night for the heavyweight championship of Rurope and the right to meet Jack Dempeey for Ihe world'* crown, .have ceased strenu ous training. Only light exercise to keep them In trim will he carried out In the coming days before the fight Heckett continue* to lie Ihe favorite He will have between 15 and 17 pounds weight advantage over the when they enter the ring at Cohurg stadium. Whispered rumors that CVrpeiitier is overtrained has not caused any Increase in the odds on the Britisher With the exception of a few for 5135. every seat In the stadium has been sold. The house will run close to 1100,000. If jrour (ami ar » aor*. ■toughing and bleeding. yon have Pyorrhea. aocalled Rlgg** Dt»- «uw, wnlch la a menace to rood health. We ore the rm' Vl r>entl.«tJ In the Northwest who ftpeclnllz* In thl* dreaded dlwiao. Biaml nation and ertlmnte free Rpeclal cure t*V*n Of children'* teeth. Reasonable discount to Union man and their families. All work guaranteed 15 year?. United Painless Dentists INC. 008 Third Ave. Cor. Jamet St Pbone Elliott 3633 Houre: tSO a. m to « p. m. gundaya. • to If. Here's Gibbons' Opponent Here's the old boy who will tackle Tommy Gibbons, the world's light heavyweight king, at the Crystal Pool Wednesday night. He's no other than our old friend Frank Farmer, the l>aldheaded Tacoma logger who is beating 'em all this season. The story from Rmlot thai llulllrMfr BUI Kemlrr might come bark to the \ merle* n league a* a teammate of Babe ItuUl on the Red Hot, Ad not make a hit In Hail lake. »lmi the fan* would J rot about moii the Hob msnagement If II »boo Id let HUI go. Bill la about the biff rat asset (he HaM club ha*. fliariea Darling. a atar al football with (he I niveraltjr of Mtn neeota, bin been offered a Job pla> Ing base Kail with the Phila delphia Nationals. He played baeeball wtyh the marines In France aa an outfielder and la aaid to be a bright baaeball prospect. Maj he, but football Man seldom make baaeball atar* of the flral water. Moon Dnr«i«, the football alar «lio |ili)Nl the outfield for the Mobile Southern league laal season. la going In for profes sional football this tall aiwl has been signed by a pro team at Cleveland. Since Ihe baaeball season ck>sed Ducste haa been coaching the Spring Mill (ollegr football aquad at Mobile. Omaha report ha* It that Pal Ragan, former major league pilcher. Is forming a stock company to purchase the Omaha Western league rlub from William V Rmirke. Bagan will pul hi* money In tbe ctuh ami would acl a* manager. Since the sea *on rioted Kagafi has been at his home on a farm near Omaha Me plana to make his home in Omaha If he can pat nrrr Ihe deal. Hue vidian Coast league magnate* ami managers who went Kl>l with Ihe declared inienllon of acquiring a lot of lull player* from major league clubs are back ho;ne again, but so far none of llinti ha* indicated lhal he succeed**! .In landing a player of an) callb«r. Also Charley linhvn's plan to have some major leacue club train with his Ssn Francisco team at Fresno srenis lo have fallen thru. Boston refMtrt has It that the Bed Sox would like to trade Bobby Kotli for a pilcher. In fact, the tied Sox management would like to trade for sevrral pitcher* ami would put Oslner, MrNaJly, launar. (iilhooley and what not on the market in ex change. The staff of the Red Sox con>lsU principally of Mo)l, prtuiock, Dumont, -lone* and ftu«*ell, with Babe Buth u an oc casional box artist. OffAr Felsch of the Chicago White Ho*., led Ihe American l<eague in sarrlflre files tlie pa«.t season. He sent over II run* with long outfield nut*. 'llwl Is tin- m<i*t <re<llted lo anjr pliiyrr since 1014, when Hani Crawford arxl Chick 4>an<lil were rrediied wllh 16 each. While President J. Cal Ewlng, of the Oakland club, nit In Chicago last week lie signed Hollle Zeklrr lo play with the Oak* next teason. /eider otarted 1010 ae nianagrr of Kog<r UreMia- Imn's Toledo team, but wan not 4 auroras and migned brfyc the seusou closed. A Hi f <oii!h tlalMk Un lui« figured II oul I lint since llrmrli Kit key took charge of the Cardinal* In the spring «>f 1017 lie hat released over 100 player*—thai up lo Ihe clone of the 1010 season. Ilk kr.v hai secured another book of blank release- and prepared himself for the coming campaign. Report circulated at Ihe meellng of Ihe Western I/eague club owners 111 Chicago last week was Dial U llliam A Itourke of Omaha wa* negotiating wllh the Minneapolis club lor Ihe release of Jack l/rlivcll with the Intention oF making lalhclt manager of Ihe OmaJiu tram fur next seaeon. Cy Young, the famous pitcher of Ihe 90*. la a member, of the > executive committee of the newly organized (jauie uml Kl*h As sociation, of Tnarnrawas County, Ohio. Thry can't keep good people down. I-h»I year Cy's namr win pi oinlm oily mentioned for the office of treasurer of the county. He dkl his last work on tlie diamond In 1911 tie a member of Ihe Clrvrlnnd tram. Pat Monui won the National l/eague championship and Ihe world's series with a team of comparatively few players and here everybody han been praising him for II and pointing to the fart as proof that Ihe fewrr players on a team the belter—and now I'at lets It be known that lie wants lols of "reserves" next year and may carry two complete teams. Ilut Ihe principle will work out as It always has and llie successful learns next year and the next will be thote not UUerrd up with bench warmer*. TTTE SEATTLE STAR—MONDAY, DECEMBER 1, 191!>. S&E Victory Tightens Up Soccer Race Woodland Parkers Win First Game of Season, Hook ing Black Diamond S- J—* nocci:n lvaoi i: utanmxo I Hub- W. U l»r. pi* | Carbonado < ® ® , • ' | HVlnner * Kddy ..I I 0 • 0 Woodland l'*rk. ...I • Oj 5 I Ilia-k Diamond. ... I 3 V t j Duthie* I * C' - wi i K-t so nr.gi ith i Kktnner * VA>iy. 5; Ihithie*. o ! ! Woodland I "ark, I; IHack IHh rnond 4. m —* hy ai.kx r noMB The nMcer race ha* now developed into a l<attla lietwren the Cart«nadn ami Hkittiser * Kddy tcama. The re.it are hopeieaaly out of the ninnmi The great victory of tbe Kklnner 4 Eddy wiuad la*< Haturday put* the local* within clone range of tha far bonado* Tlww two are «*h*dul*d to rlaah at Überty park ne*t Htin day. A* the result of ye.tcrday'a game th<-r* l« joy In Woodland I'ark circle*. 11 *a» the flrat win ">» aeaaon for ">« parkera. The tame al Überty park en Sat urday afternoon between the two •hlpyard eleven* turned out to be mora of a <k* fight than a *» ■*' match, tha Hklnner A Kddy team arorlng thrco goals to nont for Duthies. I'lay l« lionih riay waa hard and fast from whistle to whlntle. but ill feeling erapt into the came In the opening minute* and from then on to the finish It waa a caaa of "If you can't get the hall, cet the man " Kven when llefere Waller ordered McMillan, a Hklnner A Bddy for ward, off til* field for rough tactic* after JO minute* play, hi* example dkd not arrm to put any fear In th«- other* and tha battla royal continued to the »nd Th* Duthl* (mm showed up well In mid-field play. bu* M many rlitmn to »cor« by dilly-dallying when a shot for goal wm* upen When McMillan received hl» walking ticket It lookrd Ilk* curtains for th* Hkln ner A Kddy nquad, a* thtt meant ten mm against eleven for th* rematnd or of th* r*m«- However, th* handicap **em ed to •pur the 8 * K squad on, and they outplayed their Hvala all the way, without changing th# regular forma tion —two harka being on guard all the time. There waa 110 scoring when the half time whlatle aounded Strang* Open* Ktrange opened the acortng IS mln utea after resumption of play, with • lon* drive which Clarke, the Duthl* Iroalle. failed to negotiate Th* second point cam* from a foul i-lna* In. th* toll glancing off OToole'a foot thru the goaj. Harrlaon put th* game on Ire with a lovely try from !0 yard* out. It waa the beat goal of the matih Allerton wa* th* moat outatandlug player on the field, hla clearing be Ing a feature Mtrange and Hani eon alao ahowed well for the winners Hollingal. Weir and O'Donnell were the beat for Duthies. The lineup The team* appeared an follow": Kklnn*r * Eddy- Atkinson. Aller ton. Yuma. Mi I-ean. I'ettlgrew, Strang". Btevenaon. McMillan, llar rtaon. Wood# and Daly Dutlile* — Clark. OToole. Weir, Tunnecllffe. Italllngal. O'Donnell, Kerley. Thompson. McKUIIum. I'latt and Douglas. Mud galore. goala galore, tagged football and a "near-fight" waa the dish serv eil up to the email crowd of soccer fan* that braved the wintry element" to witness the Woodland Park-Ulack Diamond match ut Lib erty park yesterday. The locals finished wtlh the long «-nd of n 7-to-i acore. giving them their first victory of the •eaaort. KUey Score* The \ l*ltoin. playing with ten men during the first half, were confined to their own end moat of the time. Kiley opened the scoring for the locals after ten minute*' play and Smith anon after added another. Tlie coaldlggera then took up the running hut were atopped in maater- Iv Ktyle by Horsley. A raid on the I Hack Diamond end reunited in the locals attain scoring from a scrim mace. Havton put the conldlggera in the limelight when ho aeoreil a couple of beauties. Smith beat Troyer for the locals' fourth goal, and Imlf-time arrived with the score 4 to S in Woodland Park's favor. Moroni Count* Moroni acored for the visitors early In the second period and the equal iser seemed certain, but llayton hung on too loug. KlUpatrick com mit to the rcucfue and getting the i>ali out of danger Craven. White and Smith each added u goal to tlio localH' total In thin half. Uayton got the visitor*' last notch. The slippery hall hud much to do with the ragged playing, many of the goalH being the result of miaklcka by the defenses. Dan Horsley, in his new position French Ring Man to Win Says Yankee Frenchman Is Too Clever, Says Bronson, Who Was Overseas With Martin IIV JlMth IIKONHON Who 1-alelt IMarnnl from llvrrwui Willi I lob Martin (if«rt« I jrpmilff will whip .Iw lle*kctl. I|>- la too good a man for the llrilon. Thf l»lir fan* oTi-r un thl* kid* do not Know what a rjrral Iwtrr ihc frenchman In lie la undrr nll ■MI Ml. He ran hit a* hard a* llerkctt and Im ran lakr Ikr punishment, 100. Ju»t wail nnlU lie and the Kng li*litnan rrt Inln Ihc ring and then you'll *e* where all Ihrw yam* limit hi* poor condition are Juat Ihf bunk On* of the fellow* who aaid Carpentier waa not In diipr and wax no loner Ihf tighter of old waa on Iho Knglt-h rhintwl with mf al Iho lime ha claimed ho waa watching the Krrnrhman work. He manufarlurrd that alary. Cirpmlw* la onr of the pre Hi oai hotrr* I nff <i« work. Ho l« a flaoh of »p*e«i and ho can hit falrlj well, 100. He la al hi* be*t now and will cite lleckelt a whipping. I think.* There la no man on ll»e other tide of the \ilanlir *t>o rom pare* with him, llul now when comparing him with American* I ran't aay *o much. I don't think elthrr Berk rtt or Carpentier I* a match for I lemptei. J ark would win in a walk. Noma lan* ujr thai Berkett would pro* e Iho better opponent for Ilempwy beeaute of hi* rue gedncw* and hitting p.»»er*. Well, Carpentier ran lake *ome punishment and he ran hit a* hard, maybe harder. Big Session Billed for Star League Organization to Be Made at Meeting at Star Tuesday HERE ARE TEAMS IN STAR CAGE LEAGUE I nl»er«Hy Community Klve. North Kud Club. Y. M. C. l*hornlx .Mutual Ufe Insurance Company. Knight* of Columbua. riper ft Tall*. S|nlillnr> KiildliT*' and Sailors' Club. Co. It. Third \Va>lilii|liiii Infan try. Every team In The Star's basket ball l".gue I* asked to have a repre tentative at the first organisation meeting of the league which will tie held at The Star office Tuesday night at * p. in. Plan* for the coming season will be formed and a full organisation com pleted at thia meeilng It in impor tant that every team In the circuit have a re preventative at th!« session The league plana to get under way within the next two week*. Three teams lire still needed to complete the league as originally planned. There ore nine teams entered now. The plans coll for two leagues of six teams each. The circuit will be re duced to two four-team league* un less the other three teams are en tered. If any team would like to enter the race 11 is not too lato yet. t!et your team together. (11l out an application and that la all that ia necessary to join. DOBIK WINS NPIRS till l>obic, the former Washington miracle inan who la now tutoring the Annapolis Middle?, haa won his spurs In the Baal, where hln Mid die* hung th<- Indian sign on the Army eleven Saturday b\ a 6 to 0 count. The score* came aa u re ault of field goals by King, star Middle half at fullback, wan easily the bright *tar of the day, his tackling and punting being great. Miller and Praser were also promi nent for the winners, aa wore Mi- Kinnon, Harrison and McUratli for the losers. The teuma lined up ai followr.: Woodland Park —Pltson. llor.iley, Pltipatrlck, folgan. Miller, PlUain. ttelley, Praser, White, Smith and Craven. Blaok Diamond -Troyer. Mctirath, Hughea, tiiaecerlni, Harrison, Nlool, Moroni. McKlnuon, Upton, Murphy and llayton. There are a lot of fans in thin section who are of| the opinion that for once Frank Farmer, the Tacom&l longer, in biting off too big a chunk in tackling Tommy 1 Gibbons. the St. Paul battler. Fan* here remember what a boxing IrtMn Tommy gave Chet Mclntyre herefl a couple of yearn ago and Chet is far from a slouch and can make Farmer do an awful lot of miming even now. and Chet's no lean, lithe youngster by any meUHLe Tommy arrived In Butt!* ycrterday and went thru hto pace* at A® tin A Haifa g>mn.mlum A bl* crowd of fana were on hand hoping aee the hi* fellow box but he fpent an eaay afternoon at the baga •hadow boxing. He will work out (Ml afternoon at the same phr at 3:15. I The visitor is claiming the light heavyweight title of tin world. If there is such a thing Gibbons is undoubted' owning it, l>ecaiise he is rated as the best man of his weigr in the East. He isn't heavy enough to battle a mau lil Dempsey or else he would be after a battle with tK champion. t Gibbon* i* a brother of the famous Mike Gibbons, the S" Paul phantom, one of the best middleweights in the land day. There are a lot of fans who think that Tommy it I better borer than his brother Mike, and that's saying a lor Gibbons is a clever borer. He made a monkey out of Mic\ Kino in Calgary the other night, according to Canadian ports, and Mick's no bonchead. i In the meat.time Farmer i* going about hi* work ever la Taroma without waiting murh effort. The big fellow la hi tfca bed thi<ir of hi* career. Ill* one big liu|>e it lo land that KfM hand of hb and If he doe* thai and dre* It riglil, Mr. with all hin HevermM, will have a mighty hard time atMAag up undrr the prrwure or we lose our cue**. But the faoa at* yrty few In number wtin will wager thai Karmer will hm ft clta lire wllh the v bit or nlio ran manage hi* rniUs like GHw I* adrrrtfoed. There will be the uaual nunilfr of tirellmlnsriea Wednetday Blgl Herb Taylor, the huaky Htfmerton kid. will box "Red" Gage, the loc carrot topt>ed boy. who l» coming fa»t (ieorge Etcell. the little fie boxer, will take an Karl Connert. the Tacoma bantam, and WUtle CoaU tacklea Prank Pantley In the bantam division In the wcond boat OB t! bill. One more bout will be added. Hilln Miske, the St. Paul heavyweight, will not be able i come to Seattle. This was the information that has trickle over the a ire to Cloy Hite, the Northwest Athletic club pit moter, who had Sfiske lined up for a bout here with a loa boy. Miske uas ill during the summer months, and hat 9U, fered o relapse, and is in no condition to box now, accordm to word from St. Paul. Hite is figuring on using "Battling Ortega, the Mexican champion, with the winner of the Gil lums-Farmer tnix. or plans to bring out Charley White, e Chicago, to box Eddie Shannon, the California boy, on Dt cember 10. (Mr Anderson, the bis Swfif from Taroma, who didn't loWV when 11' wa- nHI olf, meeta Harry Will*, the big black bay, to hi* first bout in San KranHwo Thursday night. Olr think* prrtly wfII of Olf in San Knacim, ir«i(4h| to prew* rrjH'rl* from the Sowth. Olr i* telling 'em down there ahOTft hi* nine hnorkoult and that he has iitvtr bmi knocked off Mk feel, and everything. * We wonder if Ole has ever told the Golden Gate scribes all about his two battles with Frank Farmer in Tacoma. All Farmer did to hint was beat him op in those two bouts. The baldheaded boy did the job so well that Ole wouldn't box Farmer any more. The way Ole made his departure for the South grabbed oar angora, because he left without as much as telling Fhet Mclntyre, the man who made him, a word about his going and he beat it in the dead of the night. He didn't have to be afraid of anything—Chet wouldn't beat him up for going, altho we haven't the least bit of a doubt but that Chet could do it. Well, we may be all wrong and Ole may win, but if Wills is the man he is advertised and Ole isn't any different than when we have seen him in action—good night! THE IRISH AKK STII.I. (iOING STRONG. IX THR Rl(> TIMK championships or i»i» there ARK TWO MOHAN'S, A DEMPSKY AM> A CASEY. AND THEN THERE IS NOTRE DAME IN DOWNED. Basketball Application We herelJV apply for a franchise in The Star's Basket ball League, subject to the rules and regulations of the members' committee. t Team or firm j Manager, or captain i REAL PAINLESS DENTIST; In onler to IntroJuoe our new (whal»l>one) nUte, which is the Uchte and ««ronK"ot plato known, covers very lltUe of the roof of the mou you can bile corn oft the cob, guar teed IS years. KXAMVXATIOX IHRE SI 5.00 Set of Teeth Set Whalebone Teeth.... If B»' M Crown* VI / I T J fIJPPM.OO ItridtrwnrU 1 82.W Aiulfim Killing .7. ~ Fainleea KxtrarUag w All work Kuuranterd for IB year*. Have inipreeston taken A morning and *•"><■ >I«V Kiamlnatton and «<)vli» h««J < "«' »»r BmmpUm of Onr Plate no* linear Waek. We %UT T??.' ®Y of °" r Present patrunafr n rrccmmnnded 7 k. OT """ "'"'"K *OO4 satisfaction. A Sou *rm il our work. When coming to our office. , you &ft in Hi® right plncr. Bring this td with you. • i *«m4ay» *>•■» • te 15 for Work In B r OHIO CUT-RATE DENTISTS*^ str iinivmiTv «t. OWM iu m.cr-r«.« SS • Llk STAR PORTS I'ASADKNA. Cat., l»*r. I.—An ij ficial Invitation to represent tbfl Ea in the East West football (mm be New Year's day hua been forward to Harvard university athletic • thorltles. It was announced by ti committee in charge today.