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NO PEACE WITH HUN AUTOCRACY, SAYSPRESIDENT Straight-From-the-Shoulder Re ply of Wilson Gives Foe Subject for Thought. ATROCITIES MUST STOP Full Agreement Between America and Allies Is Also Made Plain by President as Necessary Condition to Peace. Washington, Oct. 15.—President Wilson late yesterday afternoon an swered Germany's peace proffer with a note declaring anew that there can be no peace with a German govern ment controlled by a military autoc racy, and no thought of an armistice while German atrocities continue on land and sea. Text of the President's Note. The text of the President's answer follows: "The unqualified acceptance by the present German government and by a large majority of the reichstag of the terms laid down by the president of the United States of America in his address to the congress of the United States on the 8th of January, 191S, and in his subsequent addresses, justi fies the president in making a frank and direct statement of his decision with regard to the communications of the German government of the Sth and 12tli of October. 1018. Confident He Speaks for Allies. "He feels confident that he can as sume that this will also be the judg ment and decision of the allied govern ments. "The president feels that it is also his duty to add that neither the gov ernment of the United States nor, he is quite sure, the governments with which the government of the United States is associated as a belligerent will consent to consider a* armistice so long as the armed forces of Ger many continue the illegal and inhu mane practices which they still per sist in. "At the very time that the German ^government approaches the govern :merit of the United States with pro posals of peace its submarines are en gaged in sinking passenger ships at :sea, and not the ships alone, but the very boats in which their passengers ..and crews seek to make their way to safety: and in their present enforced withdrawal from Flanders and France the German armies are pursuing a course of wanton destruction which has always been regarded as in direct violation of the rules and practices ol civilized warfare. Cities and villages. If not destroyed, are being stripped ol all they contain, not only, but often ol ilieir very inhabitants. "The nations associated againsl 5ermany cannot be expected to agree to a cessation of arms while acts ol inhumanity, spoliation and desolation are being continued which tliey justlj look upon with horror and with burn ing hearts. Must Be No Mistake About Autocracy "It is necessary, also, in order thai there may be no possibility of mis understanding, that the presidenl should very solemnly call the attention of the government of Germany to the language and plain intent of one ol the terms of peace which the German government has now accepted. It is ..contained in the address of the presi dent delivered at Mount Vernon on th« Fourth of July last. "It is as follows: 'The destruction of every arbitrarj power anywhere that can separately, •secretly and of its single choice dis turb the peace of the world or, if il •cannot be presently destroyed, al 'least its reduction to virtual impo •tency.' "The power which has hitherto con n-oiled the German nation is of the sort here described. It is within fha choice of the German nation to altei .it. The president's words just quoted .naturally constitute a condition prece dent to peace, if peace is to come by the action of the German people them selves. "The president feels bound to say that the whole process of peace will, In his judgment depend on the defl niteness and the satisfactory charactet of the guarantees which can be given In this fundamental matter. "It is indispensable that the govern* ments aligned against Germany should "know beyond a peradventure with whom they are dealing. "Accept, sir, the renewed assur* ances of my high consideration. (Signed) "ROBERT LANSING. "To Mr. Frederick Oederlin, chargfl d'affairs ad interim, in charge of Ger man interests in the United States." Vienna Reports Turkey Out of War. Amsterdam, Oct. 15.—The first step .taken by the new Turkish cabinet, headed by Tewtik I'usha, says a dis patch from Vienna to the Weser Zel tung, was to dispatch a note to Aus -trlu-Ilungury to the effect that owing to the military situation, Turkey win obliged to conclude a separuto pcaCfl with the entente. The central power* miucsted Turkey to uwalt thu result 'Of the exchuuge of notos with Presl* dent Wilson, but no reply so far hui -tMwu ^received from Turkey, according to the report. FOE ABANDONS REGION OF LAON German Forces Are Expelled From St. Gobain Forest and La Fere. ITALIAN TROOPS ACTIVE Americans Engage in Intense Artil lery Duel Between Aire and Meuse Rivers, Blasting Machine Gun Nests to Bits. Paris, Oct. 15.—The whole Laon front is crumbling. The French have captured a dozen additional villages. The railways leading from these are intact and great masses of shells and other war material have been seized. The German retreat is being carried out with difficulty, owing to the bombardment of railroads by airplanes. British troops are reported to have outflanked Bouchaln and to be advancing on Densin, from which town they are only three miles distant. American forces are advancing in the direction of Dun sur Meuse, in the Argonne sector, according to the Intransigeant. London, Oct. 15.—German forces have abandoned Laon, La Fere, and the whole St. Gobain region. The French, after reoccupying Laon, have pressed on until their line now runs from the Oise river above La Fere to the eastern end of the Chemin des Dames. Italian troops participated in the ad vance and are now engaged on the hills north of the Ailette river. At this particular point the German lines have been pressed back or have been with drawn so that a sharp angle has been created. Allies Reach Hunding Line. French and British forces have vir tually reached the Hunding line east of Cambrai and St. Quentin. British units are reported at Solesmes, while the French further south are within four miles of Guise. The Hunding line runs from Ant werp to Ghent and thence to Tournai, Conde, Valenciennes, Solesmes, Guise, Rethel, Vouzieres, Dun sur Meuse and then down the base of the St. Mihiel salient to the Moselle, where it joins the old front running through Lor raine and the Vosges to the Swiss frontier. On the Champagne front General Berthelot is less than five miles from Rethel. while further east Genera] Gouraud has taken Vouzieres, but has not penetrated much further north ol that place. Americans fighting in the Argonne region are through the Kriem hilde line, but their progress there 1e 3low. British Threaten Valenciennes. Douai is virtually reached by the British, while to the north the line turns off sharply to the east. Should Douai fall, the British will be able to advance on Valenciennes. The Oise river has been crossed by the French to the east of La Fere at Origny. In Albania the Italians have cap tured Kavaya, a town 12 miles south east of Durazzo. Allied forces have occupied Nish. the Serbian stronghold, the German official statement admitting that the Teutonic armies had retired to the heights back of the city in face of the terrific Allied thrusts. Americans Wreck Machine Guns. With the American First Army, Oct. 15.—An intense artillery battle is rag ing between the Aire and the Meuse. It continued throughout the night and was growing in violence. The Ameri can guns apparently dominated the situation. The solid mass of machine gun nests which oppose our advance between the two rivers was rapidly being blasted to bits. Heavy German attacks east of the Argonne were broken up by Ameri can counterattacks. The Yanks met the Boohes midway between the two lines, wielding the bayonet and tearing the enemy waves to shreds. M'ADOO MAKES STRONG PLEA Asks Rich and Poor Alike to Support Fourth Loan. Chicago, Oct. 15.—William G. Mc Adoo, secretary of the treasury, ad dressed an appeal to the rich and poor of the nation alike to make a supreme effort to bring Liberty Loan subscrip tions to their required $6,000,000,000 level, in a speech before more than 6,000 persons at a mass meeting. "If our home army falls to put the Fourth Liberty Loan over," he de clared, "it will contradict everything our soldiers are doing. It will be a new incentive to Germany to keep on fighting r.nd It will be a confession in America of humiliating and disastrous failure." Red Crofts Ship at Archangel. Washington, Oct. 15.—Arrival at Archangel of a relief ship which left an American port In August with 4,600 tons of food, drugs and other supplies for Allied soldiers and destitute civili ans in Northern Russia, was an nounced by the American Red Cross. The cargo was vulued at a million and a half dollars, the amount originally appropriated for relief at that point. MaJ. C. T. Williams of Baltimore, formerly a member of the Red Cross commission for Rouinanla, was jS]ur(e of the Party. 372 AMERICANS ARE LOST AT SEA Transport Otranto Goes or Rocks After Collision With Another Troopship. HIGH WAVES RUNNING Lone British Destroyer Stands By During Terrific Gale and With Much Difficulty Res cues 301 Men. British Port. Oct. 12.—As the re sult of the sinking of the transport Otranto in the North channel between the Scottish and Irish coasts in a collision with the stealer Kashmir a large number of American troops bave been lost. The Otranto. after the collision, was dashed, to pieces on the rocks off the south Scottish coast with a probable loss of 372 American soldiers. 301 Men Taken Off. Three hundred and one men were taken to Belfast by the British de stroyer Mounsey, the only vessel which made an attempt at rescue ta ttle terrific gale when the Kashmir, another vessel in the convoy with the Otranto, rammed the Otranto amid ships. Seventeen men were picked Up alive on the Scottish coast. Of the 699 American soldiers on board the Otranto, 310 were landed Seventeen were rescued alive at Islay,. leaving 372 unaccounted for. Storm Causes Crash. The Otranto and the other vessels? of the convoy were battling with the heavy seas and high winds Sunday morning. The storm was so severe1 and the visibility so bad that the Kashmir, a former Peninsular & Oriental liner, crashed into the Otr anto squarely amidships. The- Kash mir backed away badly damaged, but was ably to make port. As the bows of the Kashmir were pulled from the great hole in the side of the Otranto, the water rushed in, but for a time it did not serve to stop the engines. The Otranto tried to proceed, but made no headway against the gale in her crippled condition. Within a short time the water put out her fires and the Otranto drifted hopelessly toward the rocky coast of Islay Island, where most of the Tus cania victims met their deaths. Destroyer to Rescue. Thirty minutes after the crash the British destroyer Mountsey, herself damaged by the heavy seas, appeared out of the haze in answer to the dis tress calls of the Otranto. When the destroyer maneuvered to get along side, Captain Davidson of the Otranto warned Captain Craven, commanding the destroyer, not to make the at tempt. '-.Vhen it was seen that Craven would nitike the attempt anyway the men re ordered to remove their shoes -'nd heavy clothing and try to save themselves as best they could. THEIR POPULARITY WANING Generals von Hindenburg and von l.udendorff May Resign. Amsterdam, Oct. 12.-«-Germania of Berlin foreshadows the resignation of two leading German commanding gen erals as the result of the appointment of General von Scheuch as minister of war. The German newspaper probably refers to General Lmlendorff and Field Marshal von Hindenburg, who recently have lost much of their pop ularity. Oppose Premature Peace. Washington, Oct. 12.—Opposition to a premature peace was launched by the Italian laboring class at the So cialist rally in Home in honor of Sam uel Goinpers and the American labor mission. Resolutions were adopted culling upon the leaders of the Allies that in any po::-.ibie negotiations, such positive guani..tees must bo demand ed mid obtained us will assure the people's rights and liberty. The moot Kig also went on record In favor of renewed sacrifices rather than an lo* complete victory ut this time. THE OOPBHUHKMOOBAT, THflBSDA^ OCTOBER IT, 180.8 HEAVY BOCHE GUN TAKEN BY BRITONS A frrnvofdri This Canadian ollicial photograph shows one of the many heavy German guns that were captured by a Canadian-Scottish battalion during the great Britih drive in France. Quite number of the big guns were found to be in good condition pud were used to good effect by the allied gunners. I finwmnraxiaE©:.* We*t«Tn Newspaper Union ONLY LIGHT EXERCISE Intensive Training at Army Camps Is Discontinued. Crowding and Overexertion Avoided Until Influenza demic Abates. Will Epi- Be Washington, Oct. 12^—Acting Secre tary Crowell has ordered intensive training and other strenuous work at all army camps discontinued during the influenza epidemic. Crowding and overexertion are to be avoided and all I exercises will be in lighter form. I Influenza and pneumonia in army camps made the death rate among troops at home stations higher during the weefc ending Oct. 4 than in any other week since the mobilization be gan last fall. The surgeon general re ported today that the rate increased from 32.4 deaths per 1,000 for'the week ending Sept. 27, to 81.8, an increase of 250 peir cent. The admission: rate for disease practically doubled. Dur ing the week ending Sept'. 28, before the^ influenza epidemic began, the deatii- rate was only 4.4 per 1,00®. The surgeon general said: witMn a short time the peak of the epidtemic would be reached and that an im provement in conditions might be: ex pected. SAYS TEUTONS ARE BRUTES Secretary Balfour Addresses Amer ican Editors. London, Oct. 12.—"Do not forget that while asking for peace Germany is perpetrating the most cowardly crimes," declared Secretairy Balfour in addressing a luncheon of American editors. Balfour characterized the sin-king of the Leinster as "barbae iism." "They were brutes before the war and will remain brutes,'" he said. "The alleged change in their constitution: has not changed their hearts." GETTING READY FOR DRIVE Greeks Will Join Allies In Attack cm Turkey.' Washington, Oct. 12. An Allied drive on Turkey is expected soon un less the internal unrest there breaks into open revolt, according to diplo matic opinion hue-re. Greece is preparing tc march on the Ottoman empire when the Allied eom mander-in-chief gives the word, it was stated. More than 300,000 Greek troops are In arms now and 200,000 more are awaiting equipment, it is stated. DESTROYS FOE SUBMARINE Brazilian Steamer Battles Diver In Atlantic Oce^n. An Atlantic Port, Oct. 12.—A Bra zilian steamship destroyed a subma rine a few miles off the Atlantic coast, according to the crew of the ship, which arrived here. The submarine was sunk after two shots had been fired, the second mak ing a direct hit on the deck of the under-water boat. The explosion of the shell was followed by a great geyser of water, which shot 100 feet in the air SHELLING GERMAN RAILWAYS Allies Ar* Using Heavy Guns to Hamper Traffic. Basel. Switzerland, Oct. 12.—Travel ers arriving from Germany assert that they encountered considerable risks because the French and American guns are bombarding with consider able effect the railways connecting the southsrn Rhine cities. Near the Swiss frontier the railway was struck by shells several times at different points. Favors League of Republics. Santiago, Chile, Oct. 12. Beltran Mathleu, the new Chilean ambassador to Washlugton, In a statement regard ing the relations of the South Amer ican republic with the United States, declared that all the republics should have vnv' ed together from the begin ning of the war, as such a gioup would have been a moral force demanding consideration from the first. "Today," he added "the only thing tliut ro mulns Is to sympathize heartily wltb the attitude of the Uulted States, which cannot but benefit us." AT LEAST 1,008 PERSONS PERISH IN FOREST FIRES Flames Starting Near Bemidji, Minn., Cut Swath About Fifty Miles Wide. MANY VILLAGES GONE Property Worth Millions of Dollars Has Been Destroyed and More Than 15,000 Persons Are Homeless. Duluth, Oct. 15.—More than 1,000 are dead, 12,000 destitute and esti mates of those made homeless run as high as 40,000, as a result of Minne sota's greatest disaster, caused by for est firfcs burning over an area of ap proximately 80 by 100 miles in North eastern Minnesota, centering in Pine and Carlton counties, according to re ports received here. The property loss is expected to run between $50,000,000 and $100,000,000. Fires in most sections have burned themselves out and the abatement of the high winds caused the blazes to die down, but renewal of the gale may fan countless small fires into furious conflagrations. Weather reports give no promise of rains quenching the blazes. t98 Bodies at Duluth 75 at Moose Lake. Officials- were reluctant to estimate the number of dead—it being almost impossible to obtain any definite fig ures from cities and towns, while hun dreds of farm homes undoubtedly have been burned and hundreds Qf persons may eventually be found in these ruins-. One hundred and ninety-six bodies had been brought to Duluth seventy five bodies, few of which have been identified, are in an improvised morgue at Moose Lake, and it is known that more than 400 have been burned to death in the Moose Lake-Kettle River district a-Tone about ten deaths are known to hare occurred at Cloquet, and Twig west of Duluth on the Mil ler Trunk road, is reported complete ly wiped out and a search is being con ducted1 for bodies. Stores of others.are known to be dead at Brookston, Pine Lake and other- village® In Pine, Carlton and St. Louis counties. Burch Lake, a sum mer resort near Duluth, is virtually wiped' out, with a heavy loss of life reported'. The fire fighters caution against re laxation In fighting the fires. Addi tional aid and large numbers of fire fighters from other sections of the Northwest are needed to relieve the exhausted and burned men fighting the fires, which continue to smolder in all sections. Forest rangers said that the danger •wiTT not be entirely over until a heavy rain falls throughout the entire sea tton. A high wind, they say, will fan the flames into a roaring, seething furnace of fire. Cloquet Almost Desert Waste. Cloquet, a thriving city of 9,000, Is almost level. Every residence in the city is reported burned, but fortunate ly a warning of the approaching fire came in time to allow nearly every resident of the city to leave. Twelve trains were made up at Carl ton and rushed to Cloquet. The trains-, were composed of Pullmans, coaches, boxcars, coal cars, ore cairs and fiat cars. Three bodies have been found1 there. Five large mills, including a tooth pick factory, lumber mills and other important industries still stand—a re minder of prosperous Cloquet. Relief work, directed by Adjutant General Rhinow and' his aid, Lieuten ant Glenn Harrison, is well under way. All Mesabi, Vermilion and Cuyuna Iron range towns are reported safe, though at Nashwauk some buildings are burned apd fires are reported near Virginia, Eveleth, Hibbing and Gilbert. Part of Proctor and West Duluth were burned, but the losses in that section are comparatively small. Bodies Arrive in Duluth. Bodies are being brought from every Tillage and hamlet stricken by the gale-driven forest fires. The charred bodies are beyond identification and great crowds of eager searchers who have relatives missing are filing in and out of the undertaking establishments, uncertain whether they have identi fied their people or not. When day broke on the Pike Lake road, gruesome sights greeted res cuers. Bodies were strewn along the roadside, six in the space of half a iuile, the charred remains of five auto mobiles still stood upright in the ditch, great trees reared their blackened Pine County Farms Destroyed. Bruno, Oct. 15.—Bruno, Pine county, untouched by the fire, reports thirty farmers near there had lost every thing they had and their families are in need. The flames completely dev astated largo areas near the vil lage. Kerrlck, In Pine county, was slightly touched by the fire, two houses being destroyed, but the farms in that vicinity were also heavy sufferers. One woman near that place lost her Ufa and several were severely burned •ad may die. bulk* to the skies—everywhere devas tation. Tlie following towns were almost totally destroyed: Cloquet, Brookston, Brevator, Scanlon, Corona, Adolph, Thompson. Homo Guard units from all over the state are being mobilized to assist the dazed survivors. Instances are being related of sev eral families huddling together in one cellar and being suffocated or crushed to death. In one cellar near Moose Lake, thir ty bodies were discovered, in another cellar eight bodies and more are be ing discovered as the ruins cool enough to permit of search. Has Start Near Bemidji. The fire started near Bemidji, where flro has been smouldering for weeks. Fanned by a high wind,, the flames swept across the state toward Duluth, cutting a swath of 50 miles wide through cut-over lands, bounded on both sides by a chain of lakes. At Moose Lake the havoc wrought by the blaze was most complete, al though the loss of life in the town it self was low, because the inhabitants, warned of the approach of the fire, took refuge ini the icy waters of the lake. Brainerd',. Bemidji and Aitkin es caped destruction, partly because the wind died down and In part through heroic work of volunteer fire fighters. Duluth and Superior, although sub urbs were burned, were untouched by the flames^ and1 are serving as a place of refuge for a large number of the 15,000 homel'ess ones. The- heaviest loss off life was at Moose Lake ami vfcinfty. Adjutant General' Rhinow estimating that more that 300' persons died there. Duluth morgues have approximately 200 bod ies and officials estimate that several hundred more- dtead men, women and children are scattered- throughout the fire region. Hibbing Ringed' by Fire. Hibbing,. although' ringed about flre, was unharmed. Citizens of the iron range were last night harrying for shelter at Carlton* and fires were blazing at the Morton Location, Kee watin and other town®. Grand Rapids was reported on fire.. Five mills are all that fe left in Cloquet of what was yesterday a city of 9,000 persons with varied business interests and many beautiful homes. The homes are a smouldering ruin, every residence being burned, but warning- of the appEoa&Mmg fire came in time to- allow/ tfce people of the town' to depart. Pitiful: Search, for- Relatives. Moose Lake, Oct.. lo.:—The (feath list" in the Moose Lake-Kettle River dis trict has been estimated as high as 400' by those investigating: omditions. Along the road& were found the bodies- of mothers wiitfii babies clasped to their- lifeless- breasts and children Clitiging together: Through the yellow pall of pine smoke that hung low over the ruins of Moose Lake frightened mothers, car rying thinly clad' children in arms and with others tied1 to their apron strings to-guard a«ainst separation, conducted a-, frantic- and' often hopeless search for missing husband's and fathers. Ban am Slightseers. St. Paul, Oct. 1&.—No "rubberneck caravans,'" will toe permitted to tra verse the fliceswept areas of Northern Minnesota,, it was. announced at the ad jutant general's office. The mandate was, issued at the capitol following an appear by relief workers that per sons- outside the stricken area, unless on special' missions, refrain from inter fering iin the- relief work, as relief agencies now being organized have their- hands full in caring for refugees. St. PSctil', Oct. 15.—Governor Burn quist,. accompanied by Mrs. Burnquist, left for Moose Lake, where he took charge of relief work and investigated the' extent of the disaster and will order financial aid. Mrs. Burnquist wiM also aid the women of the stricken district as much as possible. Governor Burnquist cancelled all his speaking dates and said that he will decide whether financial assistance which must be given, will coma through an appropriation by the calami ity board of the state or by public siri scription. Calamity Board Has Power. The calamity board, composed! of the Governor, state treasurer and state auditor, has power to make an appropriation of state funds foar relief work in such a disaster, he saidi, and this course may be taken. Major W. G. Garis, chief of staff in Adjutant General Rhinow's office, or dered out the National guard com panies from St. Cloud, Ironton and other cities in proximity to the devas tated area. Word came to him that fires were threatening Kimberly, Tam arack and other places just' east of Aitkin. The fires at Kimberly and Tamarack were extinguished but a message from Ironton said they had broken out again. 300 Coffins for Moose Lake. General Rhinow at Moose Lake wired Major Garis for 300 coffins to be sent at once to that city, mostly for grown persons, the requisition mes sage said, and most of these were dis patched from St. Paul and cities near the scene of the disaster. Chisholm Almost Out of Danger. Chisholm, Oct. 15.—Unless the wind shifts, Chisholm is out of danger. Fires approached the city from the nouth, but are under control. A large force of men are at work and con fident that Chisholm will be saved. Fires Burning In Itasca County. Merrlfleld, Oct. 15.—Scattered fires are burning along the Minnesota am} International railroad from Merrlfleld to Big Falls. No oa»uaU.les are re ported.