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Iii.Ijv. F(bruary Eighteenth, 1916.
Dorgan Teaches Battler How to Deal With Avaricious
Promoters and Then Consents to Manage Fighter
Himself; Gets $26,000 F or Him For Three Bouts
and $20,000 For His Battle With Willard.
Ni.W OKK, Feb IV No one even
thought it of quirt, unassuming
( .lolm L.. otherwise known as
e ''oinn, and thcie's a whole lot
nl i ikv In, wo'.'t beliee it until they
u ti hi t tii the details of how he jumped
in fen brief months from obscurity to
iiu' inn' as tho greatest financier
i w. tin das of Adam and little Eva.
I Mil lust September Ike's only claim
to K!..itm-HH was the fact that he was
f ni-iht gocd newspaper writer and
tin I. 'other of T. Aloysius Dorian.
now i throughout the civilized world
mil rh.i-.uro .is Tad, the cartoonist.
tin:. I .tte tuled that Ike should
until 1'r.ink Moran, pugilist, just
lit a moment whim the aforesaid Frank
:is nr.inni; a woe begone expression.
'rnlurdpn yourself what's wrong?"
cninm uidod the sympathetic Ike.
" T'S a cruel world we live In,"
mk'ihI the blond battler. "Here's me
in wli.it may be termed a fix. I've
f .MKht 42 battles and yet In all those
1- 'files my total income hasn't been
vnnii more than $6000. I see bv the
pil" is that lots and lots of dub scrap
jipi x net that much and more for one
hat tie
"What vou need is a manager." ad
iised Ike. whereupon Moran sighed
MomnV Sail Tale.
'That's just it." said he. "I need a
iii'iii.i-'t but I don't want one. Prac
t'all eer one I've had has trimmed
mi 1 s..nl I pot onlv S6000 or so for
tl use 42 snaps. That' true. But I've
. uned over fCO.OOn. The other $54,000
.'( ii.to the hands of my managers and
1 m r nw it again.
"Th- n niHnace vourself." suggested
' r'e tried to ind I find that those
0 ii n- 'I promoters take advantage of my
. ""ti i attire and run me down so low
i i iv oi itfinal iTen.-imls that before I
t ihwwiih talki-ic with them I feel as
i I i -tit to paj them to let me fifth t
r 'in i lubs."
Ii. Uien. It seems to me that you
1 - a-ilian." rut in Tke.
v M Mil take the job?" asked Mo-
lUr Menders PI rut Aid.
M 1'iTl in. fighters is a new same to
- t mm Ike. "Furthermore. I'm busy
i i wi'iper guv. I haven't got much
in ni'inev with fighters. But Til
i ' m i hat I'll do I'll try to pet a
1 t fir ou at a fair price I'll show
i' 1" it is done. Watch me closely.
mi -ward ou can co on handling yuor- -'f
n-mi inv system"
V II Tke approached Billv Gibson, J
i r fir Jim C fey. and boldlv de-
. I tin FVsnl Moran could whale ;
em m-iii-!"ri-M out of the scrapper t
" the beveniKO name. This vexed I
i ' .n - "m forthwith rushed to all the i
"ers -ml declared that Coffev
i i1 I t"'t un ant' person in the wide. '
v - ttii-ld Ike influenced Moran to'
i it .Tinus sv-'paTier shops to deny
the tn.th of Otli'-im'- assertions and
vr ' on afterward Jimmy Johnson.
i,'onioir. sought out Moran and Coffey
aii't v uit.'d to match them up at his
i i' 'i f "-'ire--.
joliti''''i offered Morvn a sum In keep
i with the amounts previously earned
1 Moui The blond battler was on
the point of accepting, when Ike Dor-
n loomed up In the offing, learned of
boson's offer, and said:
' Vix. nix, Jlmmv: this boy Moran
-lit for a certain percentage Or he
t tieht at all."
Ike (Irtn Moran Sfltt(K).
hnrui demurred but Ike was ob
The public demanded a Coffey -
i bout and rather than let some
i otomoter gr'h it. Johnson reluct
no t the demands of Ike Dor-ran.
i share for that first Coffey
ji u is ffi'ioo and when the money
m ,s pi ed in the hands of Moran he
i i o n,.tv fainted. When he revived. Ike
1 I o him:
1 'I s th- way to do it. mv boy: now
1 -ii "in back to ms newspaper work.
I " n "ii much Jo"
t'.nt Atoran wouldn't let Ike go back.
" i !ni to Ike and insisted that Ike
Only a Few Days More We Positively Close Feb. 29.
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rim- Army Blankets, tfr Of
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Double Grey Wool
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Double l'laid Blan- T0 Cfl
lain., pair V5 OU
A I mi UfOMti. Underwear, Canteens,
'1 lie opportunity aill never come again to Vuy genuine army goods;
jit a large supply at tliege prices. We positively close Feb. 29th. Fix
: nrc for sale.
"end for )ur Free Catalogue of Army and Navy Goods.
ti. J1KM-.K.
should be Ins manager lie pi, ailed with
Ike and flnall- Ike c onxei.le'l
In December Moran and Coffev were
rematched. Ike calmly but fmnly de
manded a bigger pen midge for Moran
than had been guaranteed for the first
fight. Johnson again objected but
finally capitulated.
Stl!t for :Voit Kight.
In his second fight with Coffev, the
Pittsburg battler duplicated his' first
feat scored a knockout and when he
hustled Into his dressing room Moran
found $94 waiting for him the largest
amount of money he ever had seen tn
his life.
"Is this mine?" pa sped Moran.
"It is," answered Dorgan.
Ammonia was used to revive Moran.
An then came the greatest feat in the
meteoric career of Ike Dorgan, prize
fight manager extraordinary
As soon as Moran beat Coffey for the
second time, there was a scramble
among; promoters anxious to frame a
Wlllard-Moran bout. Various fight
club promoters cluttered up the hall
ways leading to Ike Dorgan's quarters
and asked him what he wanted as a
guarantee for Moran.
"What is your best offer?" was the
"Ten thousand for Moran," said one.
"Begone." said Ike. In scorn.
"Twele thousand," chirped another.
"Beat it you cheap skate' com
manded Ike.
At this juncture Moran cut in.
"Ike. $12,000 Is $18,000." he said.
"Mebbe those fellows will get mad at
you and won't come back and then we
won't get anything. I'll fight Willard
for $12,000."
S1O.O0O Or Nothing" Ike.
"Not If I know it," snapped Tke.
Twenty thousand bucks Is what they
have got to pay us."
Moran gasped.
"But they won't do It, Ike; they won't
do it. Don't you think, Ike, that we
oughta accept that $12,000? That's an
awful lot of money for 30 minutes'
"Twenty thousand Is more." was the
answer. They've got to have you to
fight Willard or the fight will fizzle.
See? We've got them where we want
them. And If they don't hurry and slip
us $20,000 we'll increase our demands
to $25,000."
"But $12 000 Is $12.000
"Silence." roared Ike. Twenty thou
sand or nothing -that's our motto."
Whnt Dergnn Accomplished.
Frank Moran will get $20.000 and no
less for meetlnr Jess Willard in a 10
round bout in New York.
The $20.0"0 guarantee made to Mo
ran for that bout is the largest ever
given to a nonchamplon In the history
of the prise ring the previous total of
$26,000 for three fights within six
months Is the largest ever earned by
a nonchamplon since pugilism began.
And Ike Dorgan, little more than a
novice, is the man who has made It
possible far Moran to achieve two won
derful records.
New York. Feb 18. W. C. Grant,
five times holder of the title, and A.
H. Man, Jr., former Yale champion, won
places in the semi-final round of the
singles In the national Indoor tennis
championship tournament here Thurs
day. Grant had a narrow escape from
furnishing an upset
Abraham Bass Ford, Jr.. the old Cor
nell star, had his first drives for pass
ing shots, splitting the lines. He was
three times within a point of winning
in the second set. Man had an easy
time against Georce King, the Colum
bia champion.
W. M. Washburn and A. S. Dabney,
former Harvard stars, met with a re
versal In the doubles. The ranking
players were outspeeded and outgen
eraled by A. M. Lovibond and Dr. We
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. t EW YORK. Feb. 18 "Speaking of 1
lkl some of the good fighters of the
old days," began BUly Roche, the
referee, to a group of men gathered In
the office of Jimmy Johnston, manager
of Madison Square Garden, Saturday
afternoon, "do you remember"
The floor opened, interrupting Billy's
discourse. An old negro slowly entered
and stood blinking his eyes at the
group. He was squat built arid he car
ried his hat in his hand, displaying a
considerable expanse of baldness on
the top of his head.
"Po we remember whom" Inquired a
newspaper man, as Roche eyed the new.
comer Very thoughtfully.
"Well I've forgotten who I had Id
mind when I started." said Billy, get
ting up from his chair and extending
his hand to the- old negro, "but as long
as I was talking about good fighters of
the old days do you remember this
aged bird right here? Here's one that
could go a few! Gentlemen. Bobby
jjodds: '
The old boy nodded his bare bean and 1
chuckled. j
"Tea, suh." he said, "it's Bobby, all
right; but whyfor you put me In with
ole people? Bobby ain' so ole. Ah'm Jus' '
48!" I
"Whoor yelled Eddie Curley, who
had reached for a record book as soon
as he heard the name of the visitor. "It
says here you were born in 1859, In
Nashville. Tcnn. That would make you
close to ST."
"Do ft?" asked Bobby. Innocently.
" 'At book nrair be mistooken. Ah don t
feel 'at ole, nohow. Ah faevah felt so
young In man life. Ton shuah 'at book
ain mistooken V
"You liet It's mistaken," said George
Lawreriee, manager of Bam McVey.
"You're W, If you're a day."
"Pohty-eight," Insisted Bobby, com
placently. "Ah didn't begin fightrn' un
til '87. You-all know 'at Mist' Dal
Hawkins. don't you? Well, Ah
ain' no wlder'n Mist' Dal. Ah fought
puhllm'na'les" to Mist' Dal Hawkinses'
stah bouts."
Bobby n nenl Vet. '
Whatever Bobby's age and there is
reason to believe that it is closer to 67
than it Is to 48 he probably has seen
more ring service than any other American-born
boxer in the history of the
Queensberry game. He had his last
fight in Pracrue, Austria, about two
years ago. which, even accepting '87 as
the date of his fistic start, gives him
a record of about 26 years In the ropd
Some old timers say they recall him
as a fighter before '87. so it is likely
that Dobbs put in over 30 years at
fighting. He was doing a bit of wrest
ling around Dodge City, K.ins., and oth
er western towns when they were re
garded as the outposts of the far fron
tier. Bobby himself says he hqp had at
least a thousand ring battles, and the
most he ever received for one fight
was about $2600. which he got -when he
beat Dick Burge on the other side
It was on that occasion that Dolihs's
backers before the fight displayed an
other negro roan who looked something
like Bobby to Burge as the real Dobbs.
causing Dick to get the Impression that
he had a "sucker." Bobby himself was
not let in on the plot. That was his j
first trip abroad, but after that he spent
nearly all his time in Europe.
Bobbv says his first fight of any lm- i
portance was with a fellow named
Dave Reese, who was known as the j
Montana Kid. at Ogdep, Utah. It was i
not the original Montana Kid. whose
name was Ruid. and who was a middle
weight. Reese was a lightweight Bohhv i
could make 133 pound- ringside almost
thrnushout his Inner career, but he was
generally found fii-htinir welters and
Dobbs fnucht nearlv all the greatest
men of half a dozen different ring gen
erations who weighed anv where near
his poundage, with one exception
He Drew the Line.
"Theali was one white boy 'at Ah al
wm drew the colah line on," said
BnbM. remlni-cently "'At was 'at
lstO'ii1- riilK Smith, oh. what a
ronu-ii boy he w:s"
Bobbv s.'ns Ills narnesi n.itue was I
with a fellow named Du k Case, in
Louisville a 20-round fight whith was
refereCd by Dan Cm -Ion I mlibs
knocked out Case in the last minute of
the final round, but he says that up to
that instant be would have felt mighty
well satisfied with a draw.
h thought 'at Case would be cham
pion of the w'ol'. shuah," says Bobbv.
"but Ah nevah did bean no moah of
l.im Vabe Mi broke hm heaht in 'at
fi-lit llov. he could fight, irern'men
how lie i onl. I fiu-hf Next to him. i'Ii.'Ii
ley Jolmvr,ii. o' Minni apoli-.-, -V wo
miih toughest fielit. We went 44
rounds "
Pobbs declares 1 1 i n T the fellow lie
t'op right. 1936. International News Service
f Fofc re
t-UVA MlKf
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F?AiKt 1000 Battle
fought hi Prague in his last appearance
in the ring a oun Hungarian was
the most natutai fighter he ever saw In
his life. He was trying to get the
youngster to come to America, but the
lad was drowned soon afterward. Dobbs
has developed a lot of good fighters,
including Jem Uriscoll and Tommy
Bobby has seen all th great negro
fighters of the past 20 years, with the
single exception of Sam Langford. and
he expresses the belief that Jack John
son was the greatest of them all. Years
ago, when Bobby was training for a
fight In Memphis. Johnson, then an un
known stripling, blew into his train
ing quarters and asked to box with
him. As Dobbs needed a sparring part
ner at the time, he told the youngster
to put on the gloves, and started in to
give him a good tryout The unknown
displayed so much natural ability that
Bobby took a deep interest in him and
tried to help him along.
When He Went Blind.
Even then, Bobby says. Johnson had
that queer knack of catching punches
that afterward made him famous, and
which Bobby had never seen before. A
few years later Dobbs went almost to
tally blind In the ring while boxing a
fellow named Chappie Jones. At the
instant blindness overtook him he suc
ceeded In landing a punch that put
Jones out.
His sight returned in a measure, but
his eyes were never as good as before,
and he could not fight In his old style.
Then It was that Bobby remembered
Johnson's syntem of .catching punches,
and he adopted that system to such ef
fect that he was able to keep going for
many years after his eyea went bad.
Bobby says If it had not been for that
be would have been through a long time
Today Bobby can still do quite a bit
of boxing and is in great physical con
dition. He never smoked in his life
ami never drank any liquor, except oc
casionally a little beer. He is at pres
ent with Waldek Zbysiko, the wrestler,
wh- is so fond of Bobby that he de
clan s the old black will never want for
Dobbs can speak German and Hun
garian quite well, and his years on the
other side hve developed a slight Eng
lish accent in his pronunciation of cer
tain words. Barring the small matter
of his age In which he may he cor
rect, at that Bobby has a very re
markable memory of his ring experi
ences. He mentions as one of his greatest
fiichts an encounter with an Australian
named George Mackensie, who came
over here to fight McAullffe, but who
was matched against Dobbs first as a
tryout. The battle took place at Sacra
mento, Calif., and Bobby knocked out
his man In the 31st round, but Macken
zie gave him a terrific scrap.
"He was the fus' eleveh man Ah evah
met," said Bobby, grinning, "and Ah
gib you mah wuhd Ah nevah hit him
fob 14 rounds not once! Ah couldn't
even clinch him!"
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HOT SPRINGS, Ark. Feb. 18. If
George Chaney wants a tout with
Johnny KilUane. featherweight
champion. Chaney will havo to wait
until the last week in April or early
in May, for there will be nothing
stirring in the fistic line between
Chaney and Kilbane March 17. Con
tract or no contract, Jimmy Dunn has
called off the fight slated for the
Monumental City, and Sam Harris and
Al Herford. promoters of Baltimore,
might just as well understand that fact
at this time. Furthermore, If Chaney
and Kilbane do meet in Baltimore,
Harria and Herford will have to "get
together" and the bout will have to be
under the combined auspices of both
The foiegoing conditions were out
lined by Jimmy Dunn, manager for
Kilbane, here this week. The cham
pion is leaving everything to Dunn,
and the latter, while not appearing to
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To Battle Billon
relish the "panning" he and Kilbane
1 ave been receiving at the handB of
ceitain sporting writers, especially
those in Cleveland, intends to "stand
pat" on his recent edict.
"Koreaavr n Fraraeun."
"Kilbane isn't afraid to meet chaney
or any one elae." saio Dunn. "I called
off the bout for Ma -en 17. and I did
so because I felt I Was being 'frameii'
and that an advantage was being taken
of our interests. I am now trying to
get Al Herford and Sam Harris to
gether and have the two of them pro
mote the KHhane-Chaney bout. If they
can do this I am re idy to consider a
new agreement, but the former con
tract ia a dead issue so far as I am
concerned, and Kilbane won't meet
Chaney In Baltimore or anywhere else
on March 17. If the Baltimore men can
get together I will consider a match
for Kilbane in thit city, to he held un
der tho auspices of Hierford and Harris,
for the latter part of April or early in
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Car and Obtcrvatioii Car.
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Says Two Years in Federal
League Cost Him $180,000;
Owns the Browns Now.
N. w York, Feb. is At the annual
schedule meeting of the American
leatue, held here Thu,rstUv. president
B. V: Johnson represented the new own
ers of the Cle eland club. After the
plain dates for the coming season
h.id been adopti'd, the league executive
Mated he would announce some time
next week the names of all those who
were? interested financially in the pur
chase of the Clevejand i lub. He said.
however, th"t .1. c. !unn, a Chicago
contractor, held the majority of the
club's stoc k.
Phil Ball, who recently acquired the
St. Louis Browns, was introduced to his
fellcw club owners and made a speech
in which he described some of his ex
periences as the club owner In th"
Federal league, He said that his first
year in that venture cost him $88,000.
and during the second year he lost
about $94,000.
The delegates requested president
Johnson to ask the National commis
sion for permission to "farm out" 15
instead of eight players under the op
tional agreement and second years op
tion to increase the number to five in
stead of two. which is now the limit
under the rule.
The league, as a body, agreed to al
low the minor leagues to send out their
contracts to plalyers up to March 1 each
year. Similar action was taken by the
National league here last week, so that
the matter now, awaits the endorsement
of the National commission. Formerly,
these contracts had to be tendered be
fore February J.
May. but not before that time. Let
Harris and Herford reach some agree
men and then I will be ready to talk
business with them, but not before."
Dunn will keep Kilbane in the bath;
here for at leat two weeks.
Kilbane is accompanied by his wife.,
Mrs. Dunn is also with her husband.
Luke Glnley, a Cleveland semi-wiadup
lad. Is also In the party.
Carl MoitIm Canning.
Carl Morris, the well known heavy
weigh, is headed for Hot Springs and
will be here within a few days.
Morris's victory over Pelky in Okla
homa has p'lt the idea of a "come back'
buzzing, and he wired Eddie Barnsback.
manager of the "Vapor City Athletic
club, if he could get training quarters
here and a possible match. Morris
stated he would be here for about a
month's visit and would like a bout
before leaving the Spa. Barnsback
will endeavor to accommodate him in
this respect, too.
Jut who the local club will get to
meet Jack Dillon ia a problem as yet
unsoled. Perhaps Morrh? would like
some of the Dillon menu and then
again, considering the Indianapolis
"mar, killer" ha been toppling the big
ones right and left of late, maybe he
wouldn't. Howard Morrow, of Syra
cuse, X. Y., the protege of "Syracuse
Tom-ny" Ryan, was communicated with
relative to meeting Dillon herft Mor
row is willing hut wants several weeks
in which to get in condition He wrote
Barr shack that be knew, when he faced
Dillon, he was meeting one of the very
best men in the country and wanted to
be in good shape. Barnsback ts also
dickering with Jack Herrkk and Dick
Gilbert for the Dillon bout
Preparing For Tlaees.
With horsea on their way from San
(Centlnofd en Next rare.)
has a Dining
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