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PAGE TWO After AH, Adolf Will HOT Do to Call the Roll '«t|thet?-;,,':" : Convention. MHk kf Cndo. Tacoma Easy for Indians In Yesterday's Game MOUTUWUUTKKX Ii I :A« VK bTAADI.VG. lUsaHs Yratertay. Spokane 9, Taeoina 4. -" ■ '..."'."'- Portland 5, Seattle 3. • Vineourer t, Victoria; B.\ V . "■■■> *UuadJs*«f Claftw Yesterday. ' - ■ '.' • .'•'/-, , .V*.;*^: ".: •-■ ■»,• '■*, «''-. :•>•;, J ■'*•* Won ,« Lost Pet. : Win. ■-' Lose. ,Victoria ........ . . ... ..... 33 33 '- .515 . ; .511 .107 P0rt1and;................. 35 33 <j .SIS , .821 ' .507 5p0kane:•'...%•;;;....;....;.* 33 32 .«* > .615 .600 Seaul* ;....;.;..:v.«...vjs''34 .SO7 ;.6i4 .500 Vancouver ............... 35 35 .SM .507; .492 Taeoma -. ....;-;. .V.;".".'...." 31:' 37 -.- .456 • ' .463 ;• \ .449' * When Tl»«y May Tod«y. ~ :.: Spokane f*. Tacoroa at Seattle. J Vancouver ,at Victoria. „Seattle ( at ; Portland. . :./.:/..'■.'„-'.-.. . j'^r"..■>. 1 ",'.■ STSATTVB, June ' 24. —Spokane ■/.wee oercr In danger after the sec , ond Inning. . Hunt < walked two. 'Cartwritht secrilieed. •" Noyes I knocked a homer, clearing | the ■; base* after, DeVogt had ."fanned I and lALoage bad made an error. 1 ;'.*. I The i Timers started acorlnc In .the first, getting two runs obi nits toy Neighbors/, Mil and Lynch I •nd a bunt i by/Abbott. •. Hall sot ■a homer la the serentn.; Yester ',. day's [ game made eight atralght loMes for the Tigers and. planted ,'; them safely ,In the cellar/ The ■;. moon: .•■-."■ ■•-■'-■«. '.;{>•>-.>.• :tv.--:"■■,••'■•• v: TAOOMA. ■; ;? ■'■ ' ■ ; AI! r.h I") A 1 b Neighbors, rf 5 l' ;i 1 0 0 • Kill, 2b .... 6 '1" 2 2 1 • Abbott. If ;".:; 3 0V 1 ■ 0 0 • .Lynch, cf>..:4 0 14 0 ;'• Horse, m .;. 3. 1 0 1 1:. 1 Williams, lb.*4; 0 1 11 ri J Brennan, 3b. 2 * 0,0 2 4 1 ■ L«Lon«e, c.. 4 0 , 0 6 ' 4 0 /Hunt, p.... 0 0 ' 0 .o>' 0 • i Ball, p....: I 1 2 1 0 • '• Totals S3 *4 . 8 17 18 2 '£■■>..;••••■■■< „ BPOKANB. ..- , -. V " Ali R.U'PO A E Myers, ib •,.''.- r, 0 l 7r 0 0 Cooney, m ..;4 >9- 0 it 0 M Johnson. If . 4~. 1 1 , 3 0 • t Malcholr. rf . .", 0 I 2■? 0 0 Wuffll. 3-9.210311 : Zimmerman ,81020 0 Oartwrlght .1 2' 0 18 0 h DeVogt, 0..4 . 3 3;' - 710 Noyes, p... 3 -,1.;.;, I, o:^3 .'■ 0 Totals ;V..32> %'■'- 7 27 _;»'-;l i I , SCORE BY INNINGS. - I Tacoma, . V.... .<.. 200001100—4 , Spokane 140200020— ■-■";-■;- SUMMARY. - Two case . bits - Kill, Lynch, ■ DeVogt, Molrholr. Home runs— Hall, DeVogt, Johnson. Sacrifice | hits — Abbott, Brennan, ■ Cart wright, Noyes. ' Stolen i bases — , Noyes, Johnson.* ; Struck out —- ,- By Hal) 4, by /ov.-i 7. ■. Bases on balls-Off Hunt 2, off Hall 2, off Noy«s 8. Hit by pitched ball— t Cartwrtcht by Hall—Passed balls —LsXoege 2, DeVogt 1. .. •■ LOWEST FARES EAST Via the "MILWAUKEE" FROM AM. POINTS 'IN : TUB: ; PACIFIC j NOIITU ; ,71 Atlanta CUT, H.i ..91U.00 I'blU.Mpl.U ... .'.. .9108.A0 ttosto* ...,,i......;•:: 110.00 ■■ puuburK r... ■ ...... • 01.00 § uu/f«jo;..-...:...... si jto '■ Rmb«U», K. Y. .. »<• • Ofl.Bo B OMtue ... . . .*., v,, 7aj*o *, hi. Urals s.. . . ....*.. Jg 70.00 DeU-oit r.'...1..;..;,' MUM ; St. r»ol 00.00 Mmn—polls ....... 00.00 StOOK OitT, I«. .... 00.00 1M08trMk1......,;.. Utn.OO / Mlitucf/ni ;,... ... 107.n0 Mew Y«*fc ;.;...:;. 1611,00 Wisuitaeg, Mm* ..... -00.00 AND MANY OTHBII POINTS THROUGHOUT THE BABT THJKKT* WILL BE ON SAIJB Juna 1, 8, t. 11, 14. It. IT, 11. 11, 20. U 14, SB. 27, 28. 2». July I. I, «, T. 11, IS, 11, I*. 20. 12, 21, 28. tf, 10, St. August 1, I, I, «. 7, 11. |B. U, 12. 21, i», SO, 11. Ssptemker «, 6. 6, 7, I, 11, IS. to. af||'An UekMii good for MCunt autll October 11, lfll. ';«•,»• Liberal »U»poTe* p»1t1U«« And oholc* of divert*.' routes are otters*. Jiwturo may b«, mad* through (kllfornU at slightly Mghmr Urm. fesSaair^»i-s-.>;'• "■*"<■■ '• P-" For ■ •44itloiwa Infqrmstlon regarding ■ (ana, rntu*. 4j*at>|£g car raafrrattaAt, J| Bfc^fc_ ****■ ■*cvlo*> <ail ol or «uMr»at $KmuafißK!&to T' •^^w^' A;>VAJUID'rnwil 10*1 Puclfte a*., TMoma. vgSvS*Bs^misVum kiwuhbu «■■ §no»r Una 1 ■•••i wifi^^ §1 * 8!^ w& l-oiff I- \ M» .-,. MK.ITTM-: 3.' PORTLAND, June —Bloom- fleld pitched a two-bit came against . Seattle yesterday but went wild In the eighth, allowing two to score. The score: . ■ R H E Seattle ............. .13 2 Portland ............ I 108 VAXCOVVKIt 9, VICTORIA 8. ■ VICTOR^,, June 2<s.—Vancou i vi-r won by a narrow margin yes terday In a heavy batting battle. MeCreery waa driven from the box in the eighth and two error* added a total of fire rung to that frame. The score:.-?; • /-, f i • ,■ id . RBI Vancouver ........... 9 > 3 Victoria ............... 8 17 3 ] Pacific Coast League [ BUndlng of the Teams. • ■'. : ■■■',/'; ,' Won. Lost Pet Vern0n*........44'.'-'- 81 .5tT Oakland .......44 33 .571 Los Angeles ...43 33 .566 Sacramento ....82 42 ~ .432 San Francisco ..32 44 .421 Portland ......38- 43 .400 R HE Vernon -...........,. '.'• 1 ■ 7 •'•< 1 Sacramento ........... 6 18 „ 0 ■ Carson, Temple and . Sullivan, Agnew; Arellanos and Cheek. ~.U -■,". y-i. .:".-■ r(>*-*: r.'.'R-'H.'B Los Angeles ......... 3 9 1 1 Portland ...........V 0 . 8.-^t filasle and Brooks; Stelger and FUner. ■■;-■ ■-. -.■„--..■ - - ■:- . - ■■•■■■ ■.. ;;"' -//■' rh a Oakland • 7 1 San :Francisco........ 3 9 1 Parkin and MlUe; Henley and Schmidt, l ■-. ■ : f'iV''--v-"J,' '■'' •'' ' »UTKU SOLD TO PORTLAKD SAN FRANCISCO. June 2«.— Cat wing ' annonncad " a farther shake-up aof | the San;' Fnamclsco Huimball club this afternoon. Pit cher Hary Suter has been sold to Portland and outfielder Tom Raf terr to Wllkeabarre. Pa. , ? France May Surprise Nations With Entries At Olympiad BY AJriWIK GIiAHJIEII, ((porting, lkJltor Paris "EscdjOor," Hiuuiger French Olympic Team '. unit Former Junior A. A. V. - Mil« • Jnimpli.n. ; v- COPENILAOEN. June 26. — li conceded 'in European athletic circles that Uncle Sam will win the majority of event* at ' the Olympic games which open June 29. but certain It Is that the vic tors will find > greater resistance than is expected from the athletes Of continental Burope. • ' * ':■', lt -is probable that France, Germany, Sweden,, Finland, , Aus tria and Italy will win more med als than England. France i has made wonderful strides in all de partments of athletics In the last few years, and I believe the team will gtTS America an unexpected ly strong fight. - v-"? 1 . The English champions last BEE'S DOPE "If you don't Hke It hers, play so you will be lifted out of It," Hays Cy Neighbor*. He ta fight. The dissatUfleil members of the Tiger team will only lessen their chances for future baseball con tracts by dogging It. A bahebmll play«r who so far forgeta tbat he U at l«a»t ■uppoc ud to be a gentleman and dog* hi* work, throwing the games, i» entitled to about as much sym pathy as was received bj| horae thieres on the frontier. •'.■ If we had a few ' more' men on the Tiger team like Cy Neighbors. George Mill. £! Charley ' Schmutz, Den; Hunt, Meikl«' and -, possibly one or two others, , who 'i work alt the time, it would be a baseball teanCj-'-'-v-ci ■■..'.•■.:. , ...„..;.• U. 1.1 .:■■ Tacomans bars a right to be come disgusted with some of the ball players. President Watklns Is to be adtnlted for his nerve and gameness under the circum stances. The same opinion held of the Ta cvffla players by the moit angry fan. 1* what Is thought of Kid Merman as a referee. We can't print It. Eddie Shepler was robbed of a decision before the Press club last night in Seattle when be had Hfrry Forbes all but out In the first three rovnds aad Forbes landed two punches in the fourth. i Bill Yoh«. who f dr«w eura«a upon his own head br florin* It, bM b««n hand«d over to,W*ttalet and Urn* of the Victoria All b*tl:f«n« chant, a prayer. 'gg -.•••nr«n«» f with whom it wm MV*ct«4 Jo# B«ada would b« THE TAOQMA TIMES. year showed continental caliber. England won but three out of 13 events, the rest going to Ger many, France, Finland, Ireland and to Tex. Ramsdell, the U. of P. sprinter who won the 100 and 220 yards. Since the beginning of the track and field season, European runers and jumpers have trained wit h constancy heretofore un known. Most of them bave trained under old American cham pions and trainers, with the only object la view being a good show- Ing at Stockholm. Ernest HJertsbers, the old Pas time and N. Y. A. C. runer, has coached the Swedes, and Jimmy Lit-hbody of Chicago has had charge of the Oermans. Sensa tional pef/ormers have been de veloped in some countries and will surpass the world ia the matched for the next T. A. C. smoker, Is 111 and will not be abls to appear. Dick Hyland should arrive within a few days to begin his training for a bout with Eddie Marino July 3 or 4. The Tacoma Pirate* have ac cepted the challenge of the V. 8. B. regon ball team here July 4. It will probably be played at flhreeder's park. r': Bill James, pitcher, and " Bert Whaling, catcher, Seattle best battery, ' hare been sold : by' Dag-, dale 'to 1 the: Boston I Nationals at a price said to be $8,000. ;We could sell a Tacoma battery for that price and I smile . happily. , \; Will Not Interfere With Big Battle (By United Press Leased W|ro.) & LAS VEGAS, N. M., June )»0.-f-T The: announcement |by Governor McDonald ' that he will not liter' fere to prevent the Joungon-FJynn flsrht her* July -: 4 was I received with Joy • by Aght : fans and i local merchants.>, Prominent business men who are Interested to th* ek-. tent of 910,000 la the comlivg; bat tie, . hartnj?| put , that ' much up as a guarantee, posted copies of the governor's ■ announcement J In ■ the windows \of ; their I stores. aud on the i dead ■ walls *of , the : city., The effects of f * the '?-• governor's an nouncement ; on * teh ; two : fighters were"' readily discernible. Both were up with the lark and oat on the § road. Each ; did about; ten miles : and I then | returned :, to ibis camp: to i rest or an afternoon of gymnasium stunts and boxing : . Father Kaelpf/s Cnalw Whole Wheat ■ Health ' Bread. AM* • di gtwUea. Vonr dot-tor rwtMn mends' It. Ihienwald-s DrMkatca* *«•, 3ia lltb, new O. *** games. Rau, the German, does 100 yards consistently in 10 flat and was once timed in 9 3-5. Hans Braun is the beet Enropean bet. Save when beaten by Sheppard and Lugbi la the last Olympiad, he haii never been headed at 400 or 800 yards. Paseman is the greatest all around lumper I ever saw. Franc* will have Jean Bouin, who for two yearn has beaten every runner in Europe, in the international cross-country cham pionships. Recently he ran with in 225 yards of the world's hour record, and broke the half hour record. He Is better than Scott was In the 5,000 meters try-outs at Cambridge. With the .shot, while not ap proaching Rose's records, France has Andre Tison, a fall-beared National League •.■,. Standing or trie Clubs, . ■' - - Woo. Lost Pet New York .... 45 11 .804 PitUbur 32 .. 24 .571 Chicago .......81 24 .564 Cincinnati .....34 28 .548 Philadeltala ....21 30 .412 Brooklyn ...... 22 32' .407 St. Louis ... 25 vr 38^. .398 Boston ....... .19 5;42 : . .311 ■- --.'" ' '.- ■ ■- ■." EH B Chicago •............. .1118' 1 Cincinnati .'.;*.'...;."..' 0 6 » 3 • Batteries—Brown and Need ham; Jo He, Tomjikins and. Mc- Lean. ."• -- ;- .-;"- .-' ; * '- ' '■■•";.. ; ■■-.■■•■;■ '.■• -■; ••■■ ;.m \ >->.»iH"/B Chicago ..;.*.......7 1 , «»8 Oincluattl : ...:.....*.'. 8 C 6 *g 1 • i —'Lavender, Jordoa, Richie * and "- Archer, Necdhatn, Humphries and Clark. >*V: .■■;,; '•••■• -'.s;^ ■ ■-/-.%* -k :-'.^H.tH; B. Brooklyn i.'.:..V '.'■-, ■.,*v 7♦ 11 0 Boetoa ; ;."... r.'. .*..... 0. '• 5 j 0 ■ —Rocker and Miller; Perdu and Raridan. - ;;; . ~ ?*?■'.#';. i.;,^^;-v----; u/. lt H E Philadelphia .......'.... -i:% 6 » 0 New York JTr.-.'VViTrr;^ j*. 5 -^ 1 V. ■ Batteries—Alexander and ' Kil llfer; Marquard and Meyer. ;•>•■-■.-;• \-'J±..*- .v.V;:ivßiH^B Plttsbur* ...........10 18*: I St. : LouU -V-?^:'.;; V. .".■*4* 12.W 1 Batteries—'Hendrioks and ' Kel ler, Dale; JHo well, -' Street £ and Wlugo, Burns, v-y^O'-.;,> v r^>. : ■.> rf^r", i » U -^ **-•*» fc- 1 ■ - -OK-. "6 **.*. — •« f I HUK.S~ATtTKI.Kfc: »'AIIK <O.V- • BIiLT TOW AND WONG TIM I,"••,-?- - Chlneae specialists I *j4am^r&~' ■' who carry 'a 5 full I mfll I*W ' '" ■lia* of ;- herbs ■ Im- IH hbl :'.' ported . direct .- from I Sual *i ' China, «. No ■ poisons ~~gT&'~> ' used, no operations ■ SB necessary; all bust- , "HKjlSr- (lean strictly oo&fl- I~H Kt»f> denttal. Do - not ' V W^ fall to consult them I ■ JfßFJfkhabout yonr d!seac» \^^»m ■ today, • VJclays are sssasssWßsßßsVaaniwroaa. Consul. I tailon free. Paclfio ay., . t I upstairs over Lyric theater. f£ TUe start of the Swedish Oljrro |>ic Marathon trial la ihuvra above. Ahlgrea (215) won; the brawny chap with the Jo.itlre Hughes la Andre TCson, French weight mtar; Haas Braun, Ger man sprint champion, la lower right hand corner and facing him Jean BoHln of the French team, the greatest crosscountry runner In the world. j young fellow who can put 46 feet and threw the diecuas 140 feet. Fallliot, the football idol of France, has done better than 49 beconds in the quarter and the furlong in 21 3-5 seconds. Arnaud, France's miler. will step 1,500 meters In four min utes, which will push even Abel Klviat. « Austria will be represented by Szalhmary, who jumps 6 feet 2; Mundy, who puts the shot 45 feet and shades the world's discus and javelin records. Sweden has a star In Wielde. who has run 1,500 meters In 4:02 and the mile in 4:21, to give Klviat a fight and Lemming is ex pected to win the javelin contest again. The marathoner, Ahigren, looks as good as any man enter ed in the classic. Rent your vacant house through a Times Want Ad. Only le a word. Phone Main 12. ••• This Book Free To any man or woman who will mall us thU coupon we will send free (closely sealed) our finely illustrated book re garding th» cause and euro of disease. 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June 26. — That the Abe Attell-Harlem Tom- my Murphy 20 round fight sched uled for tho Ualy City arena. July 4 will not take place, is believed probable here folowing the action of the Daly City trustees in de claring against the match. The trustees formally voted to notify Promoter Coffroth that the match Is objectionable to them. It Is not thought that any. at tempts will be made to go ahead with the mill. Coffroth is endeavorlnig to post pone the bout until Saturday aft ernoon, Aug'ist 3, when he plans to stage it in the San Francisco op«n air arena. Ryan's Ankle Bad (IJj United Fress Incased Wire.) ANTWERP, . June 26. —Unless great improvement is shown In the condition of Michael J. Ryan of the Olympian team. Uncle Sam's hopes of capturing - the Olympic marathon will, be shat tered. Ryan's -ankle,' which he sprained last Saturday while do ing some light training on board ship, was much worse. It is bad ly swollen and there is a possi bility that the Irish-American runner may , not be able to com pete in the long race. . Otherwise the American representatives are rapidly rounding into form. T American League ■ :f Bteitdl&c or th« Clubs. .. ■> t;■.:-. . Woo. Lost. Pet Boston ....... .41 .; 19 .683 Chicagol 36 26 .581 Washington ....36 26 .581 Philadelphia , ».. 33 24 ' .679 Cleveland ..... .28 '30 .483 Detroit ..........29 34 .469 New York .....17 37 .315 St. Louis .... 17 41 ■ .293 R H B St. T.nnia .......7...... 7 14 3 Chicago ............. 2 8 2 Batteries—Brown and Steph ens; Walsh and Kuhn. • New York-Philadelphia ■;' game postponed, wet grounds. ' . ' -R H B At Cleveland: ' - ' '• < Detroit .............; 6 10 4 Cleveland ......... V. .7 12 0 Batteries —Willet and Stan age; Mitchell, Blanding and O'Neill. - Washington-Boston ' game post poned, rain. .".'.' . v • • ' Times Want Ads bring results. 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